Line #44 YMMV/Catwoman


1	!! [=YMMVs=] for the comics:
2	* AssPull: Sam Bradley, Jr. gets revealed as baby Helena's father in the post-''One Year Later'' comics after numerous hints and teases (most obviously the name) that her father was Bruce Wayne. Not only did Selina and Sam ''barely'' have a relationship (the night of Helena's conception essentially involves Selina acknowledging Sam finds her attractive and having sex) but dedicated fans who did the math on how old Helena was supposed to be, as well as when she supposedly was conceived, noted it made ''no sense'' for him to be the father.
3	* CompleteMonster: [[MadArtist The Film Freak]]/"Edison" is a disturbed young criminal who values cinema more than human lives, and is determined to make the greatest film on human suffering as possible. In his first outing, Film Freak allies with Angle Man and kidnaps Catwoman's infant daughter, threatening to [[WouldHurtAChild torture and kill the baby]] while filming it and Catwoman's agony at the crime. Escaping justice, Film Freak goes on a [[SpreeKiller killing spree]] of people just for not knowing movie trivia, uses several people as his pawns only to then kill them, and slaughters his way into a TV station to threaten all of Gotham. Film Freak's final plan is to [[NukeEm detonate an atom bomb]], kill all of Gotham, and irradiate the entire area, all as a movie reference and [[FameThroughInfamy to make himself famous]].
4	* FanonDiscontinuity:
5	** The majority of fans tend to ignore the revelation that the father of Selina's post-Crisis daughter Helena was Sam Bradley, Jr. and ''not'' Bruce Wayne, with many considering the reveal an AssPull at best. And that's including those who like to acknowledge the existence of that storyline at all.
6	** Fan perception of Selina's protégé Shoes turned into a mess after it was revealed she's really [[spoiler:Lian Harper, only a Lian suffering from total amnesia of her life with her father, the Titans, and the Arrows thanks to her mother abandoning her in Gotham City and letting everyone believe she was dead. While fans spent over a decade demanding Lian be brought back, that DC chose to do so by aging Lian up, stripping her of her personality, separating her from her family, and making her a supporting character for a character she had no prior connection with, has been heavily debated and criticized. While fans are happy that Lian's back, they're ''not'' happy that she's "Shoes" and choose to think they're not the same person.]]
7	* HesJustHiding: In ''Catwoman: Gotham Underground'', it’s possible to wonder if Tinderbox survived being crushed beneath a boulder at the conclusion of the arc. It helps that her body looks oddly unmarked; her powers might have let her melt through the boulder or cocoon herself as it fell, and Dr. Phosphorus's dialogue could be interpreted as either mourning a dead child or comforting a badly hurt but living one.
8	* IReadItForTheArticles: The Jim Balent era is infamous for its cheesecake art, but is warmly regarded by some fans for arc written by writers like Chuck Dixon and Devin Grayson, which were frequently cleverly written and genuinely fun regardless of the cheesecake.
9	* {{Narm}}: One of the few things everyone can agree on regarding [[spoiler:Lian Harper being Cheshire Cat]] is that "Shoes" is a stupid name for the character.
10	* NewerThanTheyThink: Despite being her iconic outfit, she's only worn a black catsuit in the comics since her redesign by Darwyn Cooke in the early 2000s. Prior to that in the post-Crisis era, she usually wore a purple catsuit, and her Golden Age and Bronze Age versions often wore dresses, or leotards over tights. However, her ''Series/{{Batman\|1966}}'' TV incarnations all did wear black leather catsuits, as did her incarnation from ''Film/BatmanReturns'', and that probably created the image.
11	* TheScrappy: The new characters from the ''New 52'' arc ''Catwoman: Gotham Underground'' tend to be viewed as uncharismatic and having been given too much world-building too fast.
12	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Tinderbox, Dr. Phosphorus's daughter from ''Catwoman: Gotham Underground'', feels like a character who had a lot of room to grow due to gradually improving her powers and scheming in her last issue, giving Phosphorus a source of both KickTheDog and EvenEvilHasLovedOnes moments, having grown up in a mysterious underground city, and having a mysterious, briefly-mentioned mother whose relationship with Phosphorus sounded interesting. However, she spends most of her page time [[TheScrappy being annoying to both readers and other characters alike]] before being written out of the series in a casual manner in her fourth issue.
13	* TooCoolToLive:
14	** [[spoiler: James]] Stark in the Ed Brubaker Catwoman run. It seems Catwoman has a preference for TheStoic BadassNormal types.
15	** The hilarious and ridiculous villain [[spoiler: Snowflame dies after making his first appearance in decades]].
16	* UnintentionalUncannyValley: [[https://cambriancomics.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/batman-03.jpg Her third appearance and first costumed one has her costume as a dress, cape, and a full mask/helmet with the appearance of a very realistic furry cat head.]] It's not so much sexy as deeply creepy.
17	* UnexpectedCharacter: It's safe to say that no one was expecting to see [[ComicBook/TheNewGuardians SNOWFLAME]] in comics again, much less in Catwoman's book. Likewise, no one expected her teenage protégé Shoes to actually be [[spoiler: [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Lian Harper]] considering the last time anyone saw her she was several years younger and ''dead''.]] [[spoiler:Similarly no one probably expected Red Claw to appear at all.]]

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