Line #84 YMMV/AgarestSenki


1	* AntiClimaxBoss: For a god of war, Mayastia sure is pretty easy to defeat.
2	* {{Asspull}}: [[spoiler:The revelation of defeating Summerill will free Winfield from becoming a Gurg wasn't well received by the fans, which some considered it a lame excuse to drop his sub-plot]].
3	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxeoPGkgEI&feature=related King of Terrors]] is one because of the fact that you [[spoiler: get to finally punch out THE TrueFinalBoss with this kickass music]].
4	* BaseBreakingCharacter: Duran. You either love him for [[ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne his gritty, realistic look on the harshness of his situation]] and CharacterDevelopment, or hate him for being a whiny {{Jerkass}} before said development kicks in.
5	* BestKnownForTheFanservice:
6	** Everyone mostly remembers Yayoi as [[ItMakesSenseInContext the girl]] [[EroticEating with sausage]] on Akyss homepage.
7	** Everybody remembers the mousepad with Vira-Lorr's boobs.
8	* DemonicSpiders:
9	** Golden Bats. They are very fast, have high evasion, Parry, nullify Earth skills (thanks to float) and absorb Light skills. Not only combination attacks like Axel Wave and Execution will miss a lot of hits, but they will evade powerful area of effect combos like Earthquake and Earth Nova.
10	** Spirits. While they have low health, they are smart enough to keep distance from the party and will spread out in the field, meaning they will be difficult to defeat in a single turn. Also, they have the Parry willpower, meaning a physical-based team will have trouble dealing with these enemies once their health drops to around 25%.
11	** Miesha and its kin. They have absurd luck, ensuring that they evade a lot of attacks and inflict status effects on your party members and they have BOTH PARRY AND MAGIC BARRIER, ensuring that any attack on them that is not an Extra Skill misses them if they have between 25% to 0% health.
12	* DifficultySpike: In the middle of the third generation (chapter) you get to fight Midas, who proved to be [[ThatOneBoss That One Boss]] for many. However, it also starts off a tendency of ridiculously powerful bosses. Up until that point, bosses weren't such a big deal. After Midas, however, they start to regenerate truly large chunks of their hit points and start using one-hitting area of effect attacks that cover half of the battlefield. Not to mention, the game starts to routinely throw 2-3 bosses at you.
13	* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: A common criticism of the game is that while the story is interesting, the gameplay is where things fall short: [[EasyLevelsHardBosses Bosses quickly run up in difficulty in comparison to random mooks]] leading to level grinding in a game where you are [[AntiGrinding punished for it]], gameplay often becomes monotonous, and the [[ScrappyMechanic guild system is horrible]].
14	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
15	** Winfield is one of the most popular characters, especially for his hot springs antics.
16	** Valeria. Enough to be at the number 3 spot as to who people want back in Agarest 2.
17	** Thoma Raglan. If we're talking about the protagonists themselves, he's the one a lot of people are interested in.
18	** Silvi, for being a kind, peppy idealist who still manages to be grounded in reality, providing a good contrast to the cynical Duran, and for [[spoiler:flying ''into a storm'' and '''fighting a''' '''[[DemonicSpiders Garvel]]''', ''by herself'', to save Duran's life]]. She's easily the most-often picked of the fourth generation brides. Also because it allows Rex to have wings if she is his mother.
19	** Noah is the only ThirdOptionLoveInterest who is ever regularly picked, and is in fact the most popular choice of players during the third generation.
20	** Murmina. Her [[DarkAndTroubledPast traumatic backstory]], extreme [[TheWoobie huggability]], and CharacterDevelopment endeared her to fans quickly.
21	* FandomRivalry:
22	** With ''VideoGame/{{Neptunia}}'', since almost all games from both franchises were co-developed by ''Creator/CompileHeart'' and Neptunia is presumaly one of the reasons of the death of Agarest franchise, since [[OvershadowedByAwesome Neptunia was (and still is) a huge hit in comparison with the former during the time both had regular releases]].
23	** There is a bit of rivalry with ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' fans, especially from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]. They accuse Agarest franchise of being nothing more than a fanservice game with a generic turn based battle system, while Agarest fans accuse ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' of copying ideas from the franchise, like the marriage system.
24	%% * FanNickname: Leonhardt 2.0 for Rex Raglan.
25	* GameBreaker:
26	** Stacking enough +999 ATK or +900 MAG. Although it's difficult to get one of theses (if you are playing for the first time, during the boundary plane), you can transform any character into a game breaker, especially if they have equipment with all eight slots to equip passive skills (like Byakko's Bracelet + Suzaku's Ring). Even the hardest boss battle will be not hard at all.
27	** The {{D\|ownloadableContent}}LCs are very broken too, for example one of the DLC provides you with Gate of Heaven one of the most powerful scythe weapon and the other DLC pack gives you more than enough EP to fully enchances it.
28	* GrowingTheBeard: The game starts to really pick up in the third generation, with a greater emphasis on plot and character interaction, a more interesting environment, and the introduction of [[EnsembleDarkhorse Thoma]] as a playable character. The fourth and fifth generations follow suit and are very fun to play too.
29	* JerkassWoobie: Duran may be a massive jerk, but you can't exactly blame him for hating a world that destined him to die before he was even born. None of his companions ever really take the time to talk to him about it, making him an even more miserable person.
30	* LesYay:
31	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZ-bvXWutQ This]] scene heavily hints at it.
32	** Deeth probably counts as this and HoYay, being a hermaphroditic god that flirts with Dyshana while appearing as a female and doesn't seem to mind Thoma trying the same toward her. He does this after she states that she probably should've shown up as a male.
33	** Happens during many of the "{{Fanservice}}" type scenes (BeachEpisode, HotSpringsEpisode, ...).
34	* MemeticBadass:
35	** Go on, just ask people who have played the game. Most of them would bow down to the greatness of '''The Rock'''.
36	** As far as characters go, Reverie is one thanks to a bug. She's the only one who's able to wield the most powerful spear of the game.
37	* MisaimedFandom: [[spoiler:The idea that Vashtor is evil is actually a common misconception among players. Vashtor lost his memory after the battle with Leo in the first generation, so from the time where he meets Ladius (before the second generation starts) to the time where he regains his memories (about halfway through the fourth generation), he IS on your side. Even then, he will rejoin you in the fifth generation if you redeem him; between that and his backstory in ZERO, Vashtor himself can hardly be called evil, he was BrainwashedAndCrazy.]]
38	* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
39	** Ever pull a 6 character combo on a boss before? Well its really, really ''Awesome'' once you use high level multi-hitting combos that chain into special attacks for the sweet sweet overkill message.
40	** Pull off Ultimate Formation. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Just]] [[CombinationAttack pull off]] [[DesperationAttack Ultimate Formation.]]
41	** Thoma Raglan pulls off an awesome speech when an elf was badmouthing Lavinia due to discrimination. He then recites word for word as to why men should protect women, and that race has nothing to do with it. He leaves the arrogant elf speechless. Up until this point, Thoma is nothing more than just a funny guy who loves women.
42	* NeverLiveItDown: Yayoi is often remembered for [[EroticEating eating a giant sausage]].
43	* NoYay: Some people are put off by the fact that Rex can hook up with a woman who raised him, but Plum ''especially'' draws this reaction. It doesn't help that a few of them actually do imply they see him as a son, with Sharona and Vira Lorr actually refering to him as a son to them. Also, Ellis, who was sort of the "main mother" to him, she also implies that she is only interested in Rex because he resembles a lot Leo, whom she is still in love with.
44	* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: It is believed that Aksys was trying to pull off this trope to get more sales. [[http://www.siliconera.com/2010/04/06/esrb-examines-record-of-agarest-wars-suggestive-themes/ While the ESRB clarified a few things,]] the sales however of the game reached at least [[http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/29411/record-of-agarest-war/ forty-two thousand]] in its first week here in the USA.
45	* TheScrappy: While most of characters are either loved or are divisive with the fandom, Ladius is the one of the few which is hated by the majority of the fandom, mainly for being too oblivious to the girls around him and being too serious about his duties.
46	* ScrappyMechanic: Website/HardcoreGaming101 listed this game under its "Weekly [[SoBadItsGood Kusoge]]" segment because of the guild system and the mind-numbing bureaucracy it brings to the table. For an example, it provided [[http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/record-of-agarest-war/ two giant paragraphs]] worth of tasks needed to acquire the Capture Skill.
47	** To make things worse, the Blacksmith is known to make mistakes when making items. While he claims that this can result in making things better than usual, in all likelihood this will just result in him making vendor trash, which may result in losing some rare random drops you wanted to use to make better items.
48	* SeasonalRot: You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who enjoys the second generation, which can only be described as a near-carbon copy of the first generation with a less charismatic protagonist. The third and fourth generations thankfully shake up the formula by exploring the nature of the Raglan's pact with Dyshana from different, more interesting perspectives, as well as for having more unique-looking environments.
49	* ThatOneBoss: Midas, who loves to spam his LimitBreak, [[ThatOneAttack Phoenix Strike]], which not only kills all party members within 2 cells, but also regenerates 1/4 of his own health.
50	%%** For some people, Keith is also a candidate for being ThatOneBoss just because [[spoiler: Ellis gets a DamselInDistress moment]].
51	* ThatOneLevel: Alzai Fen. Populated with enemies that are on the level of GoddamnedBats, some of them literal bats. And that's assuming you're not going for the Apostle of the Swamp title ASAP. Tree Spirit's intervention makes those Bats into DemonicSpiders.
52	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Characters outside of the heroes and their love interests all receive rather lengthy profiles describing their backgrounds and motivations. Despite this, the vast majority of them rarely amount to being anything more than fountains of exposition, and receive very limited characterization during the actual game as a result. Even party members fall into this, with characters like [[DefrostingIceKing Zerva]] and [[GentleGiant Borgnine]] having CharacterDevelopment that is largely an InformedAbility due to it never actually occurring onscreen. Winfield, the only secondary character to slightly avert this by having an ongoing subplot across the story, still ends up suffering from this after everything involving his quest to remove his bracelet is dropped during the fifth generation.
53	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
54	** While the quality of the series is a hotly debated topic, it is generally agreed that the idea of a generational spanning adventure that translates into gameplay was mishandled. As result, the game is too long and the climax starts too late.
55	** The whole Winfield subplot, which starts in the beginning of third generation, is dropped when Dyshana says [[spoiler:defeating Summerill is another way to stop Winfield from becoming a Gurg during the fifth generation, making the quest to recruit Plum and Gantz and gather the materials to build Callinous' Hammer completely pointless. Dyshana even lampshades this in an event in the last moments of fifth generation where she asks why Gantz and Plum are still around despite no longer being necessary to the group]].
56	* TooCoolToLive: Every main protagonist except Rex.
57	* ValuesDissonance: Rex can marry any woman in the party. While choices like Beatrice and Murmina are fine, [[WifeHusbandry the others helped to raise him]] and most of them are either decades or centuries older than him. [[CluelessChickMagnet And all girls develop feelings for him too]]. The most egregious examples are Ellis, which is heavily implied was the "main mother" and Plum for looking a pre-teen at the best. Although the former has an excuse because [[spoiler:Rex resembles a lot Leo and she loved him]].
58	* ViewerGenderConfusion: If it weren't for Duran Raglan's deep voice, he'd probably pass as a girl to viewers.
59	* {{Wangst}}: Many view Duran's constant whining as this, though he's not exactly without his reasons. As always YMMV.
60	* TheWoobie:
61	** Lavinia. Gets discriminated by high elves wherever and humans she goes.
62	** Winfield may be all about laughs, but if one takes the time to look at his character, he's an extremely broken man who experiences excruciating pain every moment of his life due to his cursed bracelet and will never be able to be with his beloved again. Some of his dialogue implies him to be a DeathSeeker, which only makes things worse.

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