Line #7 WMG/YellowSubmarine


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5	[[WMG: The Blue Meanies are related to [[Series/DoctorWho the Daleks]]]]
6	In an old ''TV 21'' comic, it's shown that the humanoid forerunners of the Daleks had blue skin. And, do the Blue Meanies share a hatred for anything not like them? You betcha.
7	* Perhaps they're Kaleds who weren't mutated?
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9	[[WMG: The Lord Mayor is Old Fred's dad.]]
10	Why else would the lord Mayor call Fred 'Young Fred' with a heartwarming hug when he and the Beatles get back to Pepperland?
11	* Well, he could also be a nephew or cousin, and still a close relative.
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13	[[WMG: Old Fred is only called Old Fred because he looks old.]]
14	"Old Fred" really is Young Fred.
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16	The real Old Fred is the Lord Mayor, who is not called that because he is the Lord Mayor.
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18	[[WMG: Jeremy is a god]]
19	Specifically, the god of all things that have yet to be created, seen and done. That's why he was able to fix the motor so easily.
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21	[[WMG: Jeremy is a former Blue Meanie, and that was why the Blue Meanies captured him.]]
22	I've noticed this in my viewings of the movie: Jeremy has a similar body type, fur type, and even face/nose as the Chief Blue Meanie. Its possible he broke from the pack and went to do his own thing elsewhere (hence becoming the Nowhere Man). And not only that, why would the Blue Meanies take Jeremy hostage, and not one of the ''Beatles'', like Ringo? You know, the four guys who make music and look like the Lonely Hearts Band they ''just captured'', who they know will cause trouble and make music if they are all allowed to come to Pepperland? The only sensible answer: Jeremy knows how to get to Pepperland. And the way Chief Blue Meanie treats him in custody, even directly threatens to kill him (which he didn't actually do with anyone else in the story, when you think about it) and then has a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment\|s}} with Jeremy doing a [[SecretHandshake nose touch-type thing]], implies he knows Jeremy on a more personal level.
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24	[[WMG: Before being appointed Lord Admiral, Old Fred was a Commander.]]
25	The insignia on his sleeve is a very close match for that of a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_(Royal_Navy) commander]], thereby suggesting that he was still a senior naval officer before his appointment.
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27	[[WMG: Somehow, [[Franchise/TheSmurfs Grouchy Smurf]] had children. The Blue Meanies were the result of that.]]
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29	[[WMG: The Vacuum Beast from the "Sea of Monsters" is a type of Blue Meanie.]]
30	It's blue, wears big boots, and even the other monsters don't like it. I don't know, it kind of makes sense.
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32	[[WMG: Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band are the Beatles, from 20 years into the future.]]
33	First off, the existence of the "Alter Egos" can easily be explained by the fact that between Liverpool and Pepperland is ''the Sea of Time.'' Traveling through it in their submarine, the Beatles even saw near-future versions of themselves.
34	* Further, the opening line of the song is, ''"It was twenty years ago today/Sergent Pepper taught the band to play..."'' And it is "today" that Sgt. Pepper recruited the Beatles to "impersonate" the "real" band. (He didn't teach them how to play music, as they were already brilliant musicians, but he taught them how to play for Pepperland.)
35	** The opening line has two meanings. "It was twenty-years ago today" and "it was twenty years ago/today." As in, "It was twenty years ago as of this day," and "The event occurred simultaneously on today, just a few minutes ago, and also twenty years ago."
36	* John's long-winded explanation involves Einstein's theories, which of course involve time. The others brush him off, either because they don't care, or because the time travel is already obvious to them.
37	* This adds beautiful irony to the line, "we ''are'' the 'originals!'"
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39	[[WMG: The door with the train was Ringo's room.]]
40	For [[WesternAnimation/ThomasAndFriends obvious reasons.]] Also, when we first meet Ringo seemingly talking to the audience, he's really just narrating his life to no-one. Narrating and trains are two passions of Ringo's that he will eventually combine together after the band breaks up...
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42	[[WMG: The film is about Ringo finding his niche in children's entertainment.]]
43	Probably ''not'' intentional, as this film was released before "Octopus's Garden" or Ringo's role on "Thomas the Tank Engine." But even so...
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45	When we meet Ringo in the film, he's bored to the point of depression, and seemingly alone. Then we learn he has three loyal "mates," but they're each locked in their rooms, busy with their own endeavors. John and George are occupied with their intellect and meditation respectively; and Paul is occupied by his fangirls.
46	But it's Ringo who is approached by the Submarine, and Fred's plea for help. Ringo is the protagonist throughout the adventure, and ultimately the savior of the "Alter Egos." Add to that the above mentioned train and self-narration, and there we have it. Ringo was bored and depressed in the opening because he was the only Beatle who hadn't found a life outside the Beatles yet, and this adventure was the origin story for the post-Beatles Ringo Starr.
47	* Ringo borrowing Fred's cap (which looks quite similar to the one he'd wear as Mr. Conductor) for a moment is now brilliant (unintentional) foreshadowing.
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53	[[WMG: There was a switch between the Beatles and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band at the end of the 1999 remaster]]
54	We get a better look at the second band in the newer film, and they look more like the Fab Four we see in live action at the end than the cartoon Beatles in the beginning do.
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56	[[WMG: What ''really'' happened during their [[{{Pun}} "Trip"]] in the Submarine:]]
57	It's basically revealed at the end of the film that the entire adventure was just the Beatles tripping out. But while the Beatles claim they just spent the whole night "shaking," they in fact did much more...
58	* John and George were getting high on their own in their rooms, and Paul was partying with fans; Ringo, missing the days when they used to all get high together, dropped some acid and went for a walk. It didn't seem to kick in at first, and he complained "nothing ever happens to me" (when I'm high). Then, finally, the LSD took hold, and he hallucinated a flying yellow submarine.
59	* The cop Ringo stopped to speak to was a neighborhood officer who knew the Beatles well, and knew it was next to useless to try convicting them of anything, even when they were clearly trippin' balls. "Would you believe me if I told you I was being followed by a yellow submarine?" "Uh...no, I would not." ...was a normal conversation for them.
60	* A homeless man, also stoned off his ass, followed Ringo, and begged him for "help." They managed to round up the other Beatles, and five very stoned men were now in a car together, which of course crashed while still in the mansion...
61	* That was when the police arrived, and ushered all the Beatles plus Fred into the cop car, which the stoners took to be their "yellow submarine."
62	* The ride to jail was trippy and eventful, but the jail itself was very bare and empty and full of nothing. They presumed they were now in "the Sea of Nothing." While waiting their turns for their phone calls, they met fellow inmate Jeremy Hillary Boob PHD.
63	* They broke out of prison and stole a cop car, which they presumed to be their now fixed submarine.
64	* The cops re-captured Jeremy and Fred along the way, but the Beatles found their way to a club, overrun by "Blue Meanies"--security officers.
65	* Ultimately, the Beatles played their music so well, that even the cops joined in.
66	* But, they still did not escape justice. The final live-action scene had a bare looking backdrop for a reason. They weren't stoned in their living room anymore; they were back in the jail cell. John, observing the security guards through the telescope he'd been permitted to keep with him, declared, "Newer and bluer meanies have been sighted in the vicinity of this theater!" They then sang the rest of it off, before falling asleep and waking up extremely hung over, with some angry relatives, lawyers and managers on the phone.
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72	[[WMG: Pepperland is related [[Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland Wonderland and Chessland]]]]
73	It definitely fits in with the surreal tone of those other lands. Maybe the Beatles just took the nautical root, as opposed to the rabbot hole or looking-glass. The following are also good pieces of evidence:
74	* The rabbit hole that Alice falls through in ''Wonderland'' is probably a hole from the Sea of Holes that got lost or separated.
75	* While many of Chessland's inhabitants are characters from [[NurseryRhyme nursery rhymes]], Pepperland and the surrounding seas are inhabited by elements of Beatles songs.
76	* Perhaps the Blue Meanies are descendants of the caterpillar from Wonderland, who've taken their ancestor's cynicism and all-around grumpyness to extremes and become outright hostile to everything that isn't them.
77	* The little brooks and streams that divide up Chessland eventually empty into the various seas surrounding Pepperland.
78	* In one chapter of ''Through the Looking Glass'', the White King asks who Alice sees on the road. She says that she sees nobody on the road, and the King says that he wishes he had the eyes to be able to see "nobody". When the King talks about "nobody", he is talking about Jeremy, who is referred to as a "Nobody" and a "Nowhere Man".
79	* In one part of ''Through the Looking Glass'', when Alice is talking to the White Queen, the White Queen talks about living backwards. while she doesn't say exactly how she does it, it probably involves going to the Sea of Time and messing with her age like the Beatles do.
80	* The Jabberwock, Bandersnatch, and Jubjub Bird are mentioned int he books, but never actually shown. This is because their actual living residence is the Sea of Monsters. This might also be the sea where ''The Walrus and the Carpenter'' takes place, and where the Mock Turtle went to school.
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82	[[WMG: Pepperland is an enclave of the [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime World of Ooo]] in our reality]]
83	There's some time/space doohickery when the Submarine travels back to Pepperland, and it's clear that much like Ooo, causality is really low on the list of laws that place operates upon. There's also the fact that it's at ''least'' as weird as Ooo.
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85	[[WMG: Pepperland exists in the Franchise/{{Shrek}} universe.]]
86	Shrek's comment in ''WesternAnimation/Shrek2'', comparing Fiona's mail deliverers to "Sergent Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," was ''not'' Shrek breaking the forth wall. Pepperland is every bit as much of a fairy tale land as Oz, Neverland, Wonderland, and Narnia, so it's not at all a stretch that the adventures of the Yellow Submarine are known to Pinocchio, Puss n' Boots, and so forth.
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92	[[WMG: The "Hey Bulldog" footage didn't really exist before the film was remastered.]]
93	Has anyone seen it in the initial British release?
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95	This footage makes a drastic difference to the film's tone. In the vs. without it which was in circulation in America between release and 1991, the "All You Need Is Love" sequence and its immediate aftermath is an overpowering triumph for the side of good -- a practical steamroller. In the restored vs., even when good has mostly triumphed, it is a longer and closer battle.
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97	That there are "Magical Mystery Tour" references in a film which had most of the vocal track recorded before "Sgt. Pepper's" doesn't help.
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99	* [[KeepCirculatingtheTapes Jossed]]. The footage always existed but was omitted from most versions due to copyright, however, there is a pre-remastered version which does include it (I think it was aired by the BBC).
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