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1[[WMG: Mabaa is the Great Old One]]
2* And represents Madness of Chaos. All other witches descend from her in unspecified way and are touched by that power.
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4[[WMG: ''Manga/SoulEater'' is a revamp of ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures''.]]
5* As discussed [[WMG/TinyToonAdventures here]].
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7[[WMG: Asura is Shinigami's elder son]]
8* [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090218225509/souleater/images/3/30/Asuraface.JPG Asura's]] head and [[http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/7/7b/Death_The_Kid.jpg Death The Kid's]] are very similar. Asura's Sanzu lines, when he was lost to madness, were morphed into the eye form. Along with that, their skin tone, nose, and mouth are very similar as well.
9* In the Book of Eibon, who was lost to madness? Death the Kid. If shinigamis are more susceptible to madness, that explains this well.
10* Shinigami vs Asura. Shinigami gave up the ability to move to stop Asura. Their difference in power was not too great, and Shinigami doesn't seem very prideful. If he felt responsible for this, then he would fight Asura alone. He could've gathered a group of other powerful people to fight with him.
11* Asura's Insanity wavelength can spread across the entire world. That means his soul is powerful enough to do so. The greatest souls seen thus far are Shinigami's, and Asura's. Asura's has not been seen, but it is safe to assume it is massive. Death the Kid's soul is also of a large size, and since he is Death the Kid, I doubt he trained it to that size.
12** Surprisingly ''confirmed.'' Asura is indeed something of Kid's 'older brother' (both are fragments of Death though, it's compliacted.
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14[[WMG: Spirit is Liz Thimpson's dad]]
15Liz's face looks a lot like Spirit's at times, especially when we look at both of their eye shapes. Maka, who is confirmed to be Spirit's daughter, has a hair color similar to Liz's. We have no idea who the Thompson parents are, so Spirit being the father of at least one of the sisters is entirely possible.
16** Considering the kind of clubs he frequents and the way Liz describes her mother as the prettiest prostitute in New York the guess makes sense, but their ages don't line up very well since he's 31 and she's 16/17, and I very much doubt he would have the money to meet with her mother at that point in his life.
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18[[WMG: Eibon is Leonardo [=DaVinci=].]]
19The time matches up somewhat well, and considering the innovation and complexity Eibon's creations reached, [=DaVinci=] could easily be Eibon.
20
21[[WMG: Medusa ''literally'' made Chrona]]
22Think about it from her perspective:
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24You need a vessel for your latest experiment (i.e. Black Blood). You don't want to test it on yourself because it would make you go batshit crazy. And you don't want anything that would leave a paper trail (birth records, adoption papers, bills for your brand new clone, etc.). So you decide to whip up something using your own materials at hand.
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26It also explains hir gender confusion and a few of hir other general quirks.
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28[[WMG: Maka's Mom is Dr. Stein]]
29A curious young boy named Franken comes across the book of Eibon one day and falls under the effects of the Lust chapter.... but manages to escape. The bad thing is, he left before the effects wore off, and is now a nice young lady. His partner, Spirit is okay with it, though, and they invent a new meister named Kami to hide this catastrophe. After a few years, the two of them get married and have a daughter. After say... thirteen years, Kami comes across the book of Eibon again and is able to transform back into Franken Stein... yay! Spirit covers it up by telling Maka that her mother walked out, and Dr. Stein comes back to teach at the DWMA one month later, after successfully turning Sid into a zombie. Hence, Maka never knew Dr. Stein until after Kami went missing, it would explain why Kami and Dr. Stein are both the greatest Scythe-meisters ever at the same time, Maka looks like Dr. Stein, and it satisfies the Yaoi fans.
30** This theory seems highly unlikely; When Stein first returns to teach at the DWMA, he and Spirit have a lengthy conversation during which Stein talks about Kami before Spirit mentions divorcing his wife. It would be rather strange, even for these two, to talk about Maka's mom as though she were a separate person, plus, Stein would not have been able to graduate as the most powerful Meister the school had ever produced or be partnered with Marie if he was living as Kami during that time, as well as the fact that Spirit is clearly terrified of Stein when he returns. Plus, it would also reframe some of Stein's actions towards Maka when he first appears in a [[AbusiveParents rather different light]].
31[[WMG: Spirit is Crona's Father]]
32Pay attention in the second fight between Maka and Crona, and you see Crona has a... Grigori soul? He/r eyes are blue, like Spirit's, and the hair is pink, whereas Spirit's is red. At one point in that same fight, Crona uses blades coming from his/her wrists, like Spirit's back (and wrist?) blades. Crona's dress is basically just a closed version of Maka's cloak, and they both have that same "someone please get that girl a sandwich" look. Not to mention that if Medusa needed a father for the child in her experiment, she would want someone who is really powerful, like a Deathscythe, and all she would have to do is walk into the cabaret(or wherever he hung out at eighteen) and talk to Spirit for like.... ten minutes. Soul also is able to feel when Crona is injured through the Black Blood, likely helped along by the fact that he is compatible, you could say, with Maka. Maka and Crona's similar wavelengths resulting from their relation would explain their quick friendship.
33** This seems unlikely; In their fight with Medusa, Spirit more or less states that he never managed to seduce her when he chats with Stein. If there was the least chance that Crona might have been Spirit's kid, he'd probably have mentioned it (if he'd had relations with Medusa, he would probably have been able to put two and two together).
34** Good point, although it's likely Medusa could have chosen just about anyone she'd wanted, as a mix between magic and the power of genetics could probably produce whatever DNA cocktail she'd thought suitable, so long as she had a hair/spit/whatever sample. On that note, anyone could be Crona's father, including a mix of Spirit, Stein, Sid, and any of those other powerful guys whose names start with "S".
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36[[WMG: Maka's mother is a Witch]]
37Probably not evil, since she has custody of Maka and no mention of any problems there. Witch genes helped Maka command the Black Blood when she and Soul get infected. Also helps her to "synchronize" with Crona's soul.
38* This nicely dovetails into the "Maka's father isn't cheating" theory, their separation was to divert attention away from her; Shibusen isn't actively at war with non-hostile Witches, but it would be awkward politically for the current Death Scythe to be married to one.
39** It adds nicely to the horror that Death Scythe felt when Medusa described how she abused Crona. He knows she didn't have to.
40** There are a little holes in this theory, but just for the fun of it imagine it's all true and Maka's mother is not just a nice witch, but also the third Gorgon sister?
41*** That'd certainly put an interesting spin on things.
42*** Now {{Jossed}} with the introduction of Shaula Gorgon in ''Manga/SoulEaterNot'', but [[WhatCouldHaveBeen that would have made a great plot twist.]]
43* An issue with witch genes allowing Maka to control the black blood is that Kim explains that for witches "destruction is the guidance of magic", as it's the consequence of their powers (use of their "immeasurable energy" leading to destruction). Unless Kami (and so Maka) was an exception like Kim, whose powers manifested through creation/regeneration, surely witch genes would enhance the black blood's destructive effects, not alleviate them?
44** Well, her "Demon-slaying wavelength" (Or whatever your favorite translator calls it) isn't exactly a force of creation, now is it?
45*** It's not, but the problem with Maka being the daughter of a witch is that Kim is the ''only'' known exception to the more-or-less Always Chaotic Evil categorisation of witches in the 'verse. While there are clearly degrees to which witches use the destructive 'guidance of magic', by this WMG Maka would fall into it somewhere without there being something else at work; either the nature of her mother's power, or the other special skills she's inherited. Which, given the grigori soul thing, is still not out of the question.
46** Given the lack of substantial world-building, it's not exactly impossible for more exceptions to be like Kim.
47
48[[WMG: Stein is Crona's father]]
49I don't remember reading or watching anything that showed how LONG Medusa has been associated with the school. She could have been enrolled in it while going through witch training as well. During this, she could have formed a relationship with Stein which lead to a pregnancy at an early age, similar to Spirit and Kami having Maka at 18. She then managed to keep the pregnancy a secret from Stein. Their relationship could have ended around the time of Crona's birth, eventually leading to her leaving Stein's life only to come back years later to be a nurse at the school.
50* The problem is, Crona resembles Stein even less than he/she does Medusa.
51* That seems like too far a stretch. Sounds more like a backstory for a fanfic than anything else.
52
53[[WMG: Noah is Crona's father. ]]
54I have no why's. Other than [[ItAmusedMe it would amuse me.]]
55* I don't think thats possible...seeing as how Noah is merely a physical manifestation of the chapters in the Book of Eibon.
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57[[WMG:The Kishin is actually Crona's father.]]
58Medusa is not only a witch, she is a witch scientist. And she had Black Blood, and in Blood there are bloodcells- and DNA. She could've created a baby from that DNA and her own DNA. Besides, look how much they are similar.
59* They have similar personalities. They are cowards who can't deal well with problems in their lives and kind of loners.
60* They have somewhat similar faces.
61** But this is an anime/manga. [[OnlySixFaces Most people look related.]]
62* In order to use Ragnarok and the black blood you'd have to have either a very aligned soul or give in to insanity. Crona can use Ragnarok even when he is not in the insanity, which means his soul is aligned with Rangnarock- and very similar to the Kishin's.
63** That is actually scarily plausible (also, according to Justin Law's rather faulty world view, would that make Crona TheAntiChrist?).
64** It is, however, worth mentioning that Crona's had Ragnarok in them since they were very small, and was shown to suffer some sort of insanity when it was first injected (blank eyes, mumbling to themselves). They could just be very used to keeping a grip on some sort of sanity even with the black blood in them.
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66[[WMG: [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Orochimaru]] is Crona's father]]
67Like Medusa, Orochimaru is a snake-themed MadScientist, and he became interested in her experiments with black blood and agreed to help her with them. Part of said help was siring a child to use for the research.
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69[[WMG: [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Marluxia]] is Crona's father]]
70Crona doesn't resemble Medusa at all, but he does have long pink hair and blue eyes just like Marluxia's.
71
72[[WMG: [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Szayel Aporro Granz]] is Crona's father]]
73Like the above two examples, Szayel is a scientist and swordsman to boot, and he has pink hair.
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75[[WMG: Ragnarok is Crona's father]]
76Makes as much sense as the theories above. Why not?
77
78[[WMG: Tsubaki's Father is a Death Scythe and a far more powerful Demon Blade than either of his children.]]
79C'mon, Tsubaki comes from a long line of weapons and her father seemed just to cool to /not/ be a Death Scythe or at least have some future roll.
80* Except Tsubaki IIRC is the first of the family to enter Shibusen. If her father (who probably has some uncreative yet awesome sword-related name) is a powerful Weapon, though, he might be the equivalent of a Death Scythe rather than a official one. Though perhaps the failure of the Nakatsukasas to achieve anything save mass murder with the demon blade mode might have caused him to avoid using his Weapon form much.
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82[[WMG: Excalibur was the first weapon.]]
83* If you think about it, it makes sense: His legend started eight hundred years ago, which was just around the time the first Weapon was made by Arachne. It's possible that the creation of him was what sparked the natural birth of other weapons around the world. Also, don't forget, when Death still had his scary mask and began taking in Weapon children, we were shown children as young as five or six, supporting that idea.
84** Kinda confirmed. We wasn't made by Arachne and in fact, all Weapons were inspired by Excalibur and experiments were done trying to recreate someone like him. So kinda of a zeroth weapon.
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86
87[[WMG: Autonomous weapons are weapons who have automatic weapon forms.]]
88Other than the fact that they're autonomous, meaning they can fight well without a meister, Justin and Giriko seem to have nothing in common. However, both the chainsaw and the guillotine work automatically. Well, the guillotine doesn't exactly work automatically, but the power behind doesn't come from a human wielding it. It's power comes from gravity, while the chainsaw's comes from the rotation of its blades.
89* Not to mention Liz and Patty are clearly ''semi''-automatic, so they exist as a pair that can wield each other!
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91[[WMG: Autonomous weapons are weapons that ''can't'' practically be used by a meister]]
92An alternate theory to the above: It's not that Justin and Giriko work automatically is why they don't have meisters, it's because meisters are unable to wield them. Almost all of the weapons seen are things that are made to be weapons (pistols, swords, etc) or things that are not necessarily meant to be used as weapons but have a long history of being used as them (survival knives, scythes, etc). Justin and Giriko transform into neither of these. Yes, there's the trope ChainsawGood, but the SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome portion of that page show why a chainsaw would make a [[AwesomeButImpractical remarkably awful weapon.]] With Justin, even the most skilled of [[ImprobableWeaponUser improbable weapon users]] would have issues making a guillotine work as an offensive weapon reliably. Because of this, the only choice they had was to learn to wield themselves.
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94[[WMG: Death the Kid doesn't actually have a mother]]
95Despite appearances, Kid isn't human in any way, shape or form. He's a god/junior anthromorphic personification.Given that Shinigami-sama is stuck in Death City, it's not too much of a stretch to assume that the universe was in need of a mobile death god or maybe just as insurance in case anything happened to the current one, and in response to this Kid just sort of came into being. As for why he's, well, a kid, Death should really have a certain amount of compassion and be able to understand exactly what his role means to the mortals that he's responsible for, and what better way to do that then for him to have a human (or close enough) life first?
96* I came here tonight considering adding pretty much that. You've got my current theory on the matter kind of in one, and better phrased. Would add that the Sanzu Lines as they are in the manga had me thinking that rather than Kid just coming into being, Shinigami created him deliberately for the reasons that you give; necessity and security.
97* Shinigami reproduce when wetted.
98* I always thought Death made Kid because he was jealous of Spirit having Maka.
99* Confirmed. Death the Kid was a fragment of Death and it's the same way his older brother Asura was confirmed.
100
101[[WMG: Kid was reproduced by Shinigami-sama budding.]]
102The asymmetry must have driven little bud Kid insane.
103
104[[WMG: When one Shinigami has a child and that child gains enough power, that Shinigami will die and pass on the rest of his power to his child.]]
105This isn't as far-fetched as it sounds. It's been shown that when Kid activates his Sanzu lines, Shinigami-sama is aware of it. In fact, it's even possible that the activation of the Sanzu creates a link between him and his father, drawing on power from him to fuel his attacks. Thus, the anime aside, it's possible that the more power he generates, the weaker Shinigami would get. If Kid really is a "fragment of Shinigami", or some kind of cloned offspring, the entire point of it would be to pass on the power of the Shinigami once he gets too old. Don't forget, as powerful as Shinigami is, he can still be beaten and possibly killed. Having a son would insure that the world would still be protected.
106* Confirmed! In a massive tearjerker, but confirmed!
107
108[[WMG: Spirit is not really Maka's father, Shinigami is.]]
109Only three people in the world are known to be able to use Kishin Hunter; Kami, Maka and Shinigami. Now, what Shinigami says in Episode 37 after learning Maka has used the anti-demon wavelength/Kishin Hunter, is something akin to her having inherited it from her mother. However, how Kami got this power and how much genetics are involved is left open. It's possible that, either before Kami met Spirit or perhaps some time after, perhaps in response to one of Spirit's cheats, Kami turned around and either cheated on Spirit to spite him or was romantically involved with Shinigami before meeting Spirit. This union consumated in two things, which was a "passing" of certain things from Shinigami to Kami, including the Kishin Hunter, and a child, which was Maka. Kami either then passed Maka off to Spirit as their child from one of their acts if you go the cheating route or simply met Spirit later and became romantically involved in him, and he just treats the child as his own, Which might explain why he feels such a need to feel like Maka's father and be respected/liked by Maka as such. Also, while less factual, Shinigami seems to act friendlier to Maka than the rest of the Meisters, though that might just be my opinion. Also, please note I have not finished the manga, so this may have already been Jossed.
110* While highly unlikely, not to mention downright bizarre, the number of Maka/Kid shippers out there means that if it's at all true then the fandom fallout would be hilarious. Oh, there's a thought, where/how would Kid fit into this theory?
111* Yes, the fandom fallout would be hilarious...anyway, Kid would be hard to place, but the possibilities generally point to one of three things. Either Kid is Kami's child as well, perhaps some kind of twins thing, Shinigami had another woman later or earlier, or Shinigami created Kid without a mother, which is why Kid is a "Shinigami" and Maka is not. Presumably, the third method means some funky magic.
112** Possibility No.3 makes the most sense (as much as anything about this theory makes sense anyway) but No. 1 would be the most entertaining if there was a reveal.
113* Jossed, Shinigami only reproduce asexually
114
115[[WMG: Death The Kid doesn't have a mother.]]
116[[spoiler: He's referred to as a "fragment" of Shinigami-sama by the Great Old One. The completion of his Sanzu lines seems to be dangerous to Shinigami-sama, but not to Kid himself. For reasons yet to be explained, Shinigami-sama created a "son" for himself out of his own being, allowing him to experience the familial bonds nearly all of his friends know and create a successor. When Death The Kid's Sanzu Lines hit their completion, he will re-integrate with his father and become the new Shinigami, his father's persona vanishing in the process.]]
117* You know, the topic was brought up in the preview for the anime's third episode, shown at the end of episode 2.
118* Confirmed, this is actually how Shinigami reproduce.
119
120[[WMG:Shinigami is actually Maka's mother]]
121Sounds like crack, but it's too much fun to ignore. Think about it: Her mother is normally referred to as 'Kami' (God). Shinigami (death god) is spelt 'gami' and not 'kami' because of the 'shini' bit, but it is still 'kami' at the core. There is also the fact that Kami is never seen on-screen or heard from off-screen. No pictures ever come up either. Add in the fact that Spirit is Shinigami's main weapon, and we're in business. Plus, can you say, 'Shinigami CHOP!'? Add a book.
122
123[[WMG: Kidd and Maka are half-siblings sharing the same mother]]
124You know nothing about Kidds and Makas mothers, so maaaaaybe they could be the same person. Would coincide with Kidds reaction towards Noah's plans on her, so he probably knows. Maka may know or not.
125* Jossed, Kid doesn't have a mother, Shinigami reproduce asexually.
126
127[[WMG: Death the Kid's OCD came from [[BattleBallgown trauma of seeing and/or causing his mother's death]].]]
128...I have no 'why's.
129* (copies from my previous reply) no, it's because in Ch 73, it says that [[spoiler: Kid has the Madness of order. symmetry is a form of order.]]
130* Correction: Kid [[spoiler: IS the Madness of Order (or a fragment at least)]].
131* And doesn't have a mother, due to Shinigami reproducing asexually
132
133[[WMG: A rather odd theory on how Kid was conceived.]]
134Feeling that he needed a heir, Shinigami-sama temporarily took on a human form and had a one-night stand with a mortal woman, quickly impregnating her. After that, said woman didn't knew that she was carrying the child of death until the morning of February 2nd, when she started feeling a strong pain in her womb and had to go to hospital immediately. The child, a seemingly healthy baby boy, was conceived successfully, but the mother died in the process and therefore didn't get the chance to see her child. However, Shinigami-sama took the baby as his son, claiming him with Shinigami abilities and giving him a perfectly fitting name... Death the Kid.
135* Jossed, Shinigami reproduce asexually, no woman really needed.
136
137[[WMG: Kid's mother is another Death Scythe.]]
138It would explain why she's not around; she's probably off doing IMPORTANT DEATH SCYTHE THINGS.
139* I like this WMG better then the asexual reproduction one above.
140* Attached as I am to the 'asexual' idea (the 'fragment' deal in ch72 is ''not'' helping my inclination to believe that's the case) but, yes, this would be neat. How about that Kid's mother was the Death Scythe before Spirit? Just because. The shape of Kid's soul (both the lines and the brief skull shape are shinigami-related) could be explained in some fashion; mangaverse Maka's Grigori soul and absence of Weapon traits weren't an issue.
141* More specifically, she could be the Death Scythe in charge of Africa. If they had a falling out after Kid was born, it would explain not only why she isn't around, but also why the Death Scythe of Africa refused to follow the Summons after the Keshin's revival. More-over, assuming that Kid's OCD is inherited from his father, this would make the Death Scythes "perfectly symmetrical" gender-wise: Three male and three female, with one for each continent, sans Antarctica, which both logically and canonically lacks a Death Scythe.
142** Jossed, Kid has no mother.
143
144[[WMG: Ragnarok is Crona's dad(but maybe either his memory is deleted or others...)]]
145[[LukeIAmYourFather "Luke, I am your father"..."NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"]]
146* Or else, who is Chrona's dad?
147[[LukeIAmYourFather "Crona, I am your father."..."NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!]] [[CatchPhrase I don't know how to deal with it"]]
148* ......
149** Anyway, almost all casts have no father and/or mother.
150*** The mother of Maka, Kami, divorced with Spirit and has disappeared into thin air.
151*** Black Star's father and mother have been killed.
152** So, I just provide this idea for reference...
153
154[[WMG:Dr. Stein is Maka's father.]]
155And Maka's mother is one of the only ones who know it. And maybe Stein knows it too and is pretending not to know it. This is just based on the premise that Maka looks like Stein more than she does Spirit. Still, we don't know what Maka's mother looks like, but one would expect that she inherit ''some'' of her dad's physical traits. (And Maka's blaming her ''dad'' for playing around. Unless the incident of the pregnancy happened ''before'' they married.)
156
157NOTE: This assumption would clearly apply only to the manga, as [[spoiler:Maka genetically inherited Spirit's weapon powers in the anime]].
158* Addendum to the above note: Unless Maka's mother is a Weapon. We know there are at least two Scythe-type weapons, and Soul refers to the guillotine-weapon Justin Law as "the same type of weapon I am".
159* Doesn't Maka have Spirit's eyes? Different colours maybe, but they're drawn in the same style, I think. That, and that in the manga [[spoiler:Male!Maka seems to be just like Spirit when it comes to the ladies.]]
160** Which is why things will be easier to confirm or deny if Maka's mother shows up, which is certainly a possibility. Besides, [[spoiler:all Maka got was a nosebleed (and maybe an erection), and that was one DAMN hot succubus]].
161*** Actually, I don't think Spirit's ever been shown to get a nosebleed around "hot women". Soul does though, or at least he did with Blair. [[spoiler:I think male!Maka was supposed to emulate Soul, since s/he was also quiet, moody, and had spiky hair.]]
162* As of chapter 106, [[spoiler: firmly Jossed.]]
163
164[[WMG:Spirit's UrbanLegendLoveLife is due to him and Stein attempting to keep their relationship a secret]]
165Kami was just a [[TheBeard beard]] that spiraled a bit out of control and/or Death Scythes are expected to have an heir and when Maka ended up not being a weapon, their pseudo-relationship dwindled. All those women people thought he was running around with? Yeaaaah... This also explains why the girls in the cabaret club know he's just going to whine about his life rather than do anything and why both Medusa and Marie keep getting [[IncompatibleOrientation shot down]].
166* Also, I'm [[HoYay slightly amazed]] that this hadn't been [[AmbiguouslyGay brought up before]] in some form or other.
167* So when Spirit spoke about Stein's "experiments" on him, [[SexualEuphemism he actually meant...]]
168
169[[WMG: Liz and Patty are fraternal twins]]
170But like in most scenarios of twins, the one born first considers themselves to be the older sibling, which Liz chose to do early on, and Patty just went with it.
171* Not a completely crazy idea, but it's far more likely that their mother, being a hooker, simply had them by two different men (which might explain their different shaped eyes, different breast sizes and the like). It does get kind of hazy considering that they're identical in weapon form (and the only other weapon siblings in the series are twins, albeit non-identical), but it could be they both inherited (the same?) weapon abilities from their mother.
172** Twins do not have to look exactly like one another. Subtle differences may be present (though it's exaggerated here,) but they are pretty much twins.
173
174[[WMG: Soul's Grandma is a Death Scythe]]
175She was a weapon and the only reason no one has pointed it out is that Soul entered Shibusen under a false name
176* Doesn't it say somewhere that Shibusen students can enter under any name they want?
177** The troper above is correct. In Soul Eater NOT! it was clearly stated in the manga AND the anime. So the false name part is Jossed, but why would Soul's Grandma be surprised by this if she was a Death Scythe herself?
178
179[[WMG: Chrona and Kidd are siblings.]]
180Shinigami-sama is Chrona's father; Medusa is Kidd's mother. Medusa ended up having twins, one inheriting the father's shinigami qualities and the other inheriting her own witch qualities. She had wanted to have a child shinigami to experiment with, but ended up keeping the wrong child through some accident and made do with what she had. This is also why Medusa's so nervous when she goes with Spirit to meet Shinigami-sama face to face: the last time she was with him in a context besides school nurse, she seduced him. {{Squick}}.
181* Despite the extensive wrongness of this theory, a teeny, tiny, very, very warped part of me thinks it'd be interesting if it turned out to be true, if only to see all the Kid/Crona shippers go blue screen.
182* This also provides a FreudianExcuse for Kidd's obsession with symmetry; subconsciously, he misses his twin - his other half. (And if finding out he has a long-lost twin doesn't send him into a HeroicBSOD, learning that they're his ''non-identical twin'' certainly would.)
183* Jossed, Shinigami reproduce asexually. [[spoiler:And Kid's only sibling is Asura.]]
184
185[[WMG: Maka is bisexual.]]
186I don't know, maybe it's just my opinion. But either way, she has both of ''a lot'' of ShipTease with Soul ([[{{OTP}} I don't mind]]) and also some LesYay with Tsubaki and Crona ([[AmbiguousGender kind of]]). Also, when in chapter 72 [[spoiler:[[GenderBending everyone had their genders switched]] [[ItMakesSenseInContext after getting inside the book of Eibon]], she was turned into a feminine-looking boy- and she ''did'' [[AllMenArePerverts have a]] {{nosebleed}} [[AllMenArePerverts when she saw the succubus]]. I do realise that it could be because of the GenderBending... but then again we may never know.]]
187* The Characters, when inside the first chapter of the Book of Eibon, are explicitly shown to have personality changes as well, [[spoiler: which reverted upon entering the second chapter]].
188
189[[WMG: Maka's mother isn't the one sending her those cards.]]
190This only applies to the anime as no contact between Maka and her mom has been established in the manga. Her father, or maybe one of the Shibusen staff, is sending them. Her mother is really either dead or has cut off all contact. Perhaps initially Spirit did it to stop her being upset (he's done sillier things), then they kept the charade going to prevent one of their more powerful meisters from having a HeroicBSOD, FaceHeelTurn, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking shouting at her father]], or any of the other potential consequences of the truth getting out.
191* I figure that, because of his suddenly serious tone at the time, that Spirit was ''trying'' to tell Maka something important about him and her mother during their rooftop conversation (if nothing more than an admission of guilt). This suddenly puts a new, weird, spin on it. Can see Spirit sending cards to cheer Maka up if her mother was out of contact, but not if she was ''dead''. For a start, he's too bloody emotional himself to keep up such a charade.
192
193[[WMG: Spirit is a chaste flirt.]]
194His and Kami's divorce was for different reasons entirely, but Maka wasn't clearly informed, or she doesn't want to believe her mother had a part in it. So instead, she focuses on said father's flirting, citing it as the only reason for the divorce, and rejects him entirely. This would sorta explain Spirit's UrbanLegendLoveLife.
195* Maybe not entirely different reasons, but certainly not the only reason, I believe. It would explain the curious lack of flirting seen from a character derided as a pervert (but not so much recently). The way Spirit, being serious, begins to tell Maka something when they're talking on the roof following the Italy mission has always struck me as maybe (though probably not) being a significant omission. If that wasn't an admission of guilt Spirit didn't manage to make, maybe there is something else to it?
196** He was infamous for being with girls as a teenager, but he did care about Maka's mom alot and the divorce was around the time Maka entered Shibusen. Afterwards, she just kinda vanished.
197
198[[WMG: Spirit the current Death Scythe isn't cheating on Maka's mother]]
199He's ''pretending'' to, either to intentionally drive away Maka's mother to protect her from something; or else she's in on it to (even the divorce proceedings!) and it's to protect Maka from realizing...something. If he is a philanderer, he's the worst one ever; as it's an Main/InformedAttribute. All he ever does at Cabaret Houses is talk about Maka and her mother; said Cabaret Houses are used to this.
200* Alternatively, Mrs Albarn knows what an awful excuse for an adulterer he is and is divorcing him anyway for ThePlan. She just hasn't told Spirit this because can you see Spirit being able to keep his mouth shut about it in the face of Maka's disapproval?
201** Similarly, she could have left him because she saw through his plan immediately, but was insulted he didn't trust her enough to keep her around ... thus setting the stage for her dramatic return and the time when Spirit and Maka's mother perform a ... Soul Resonance.
202* On the other hand it could just be that while Spirit hasn't gone any further then very enthusiastic flirting, it was enough to make Maka's Mum ditch him. After all, if you assume that he's always been like that then she's had to put up with it for well over a decade. She probably finally decided that she'd had enough.
203* Played with in a fanfic called One Night in which [[spoiler: Spirit's memory is so damn fluid after an incident with the Mad Scientist that he's forgotten he married his on and off girlfriend and immediately stops after he remembers. This doesn't stop the witches from taking advantage of his lapses, though, as he can't remember what he doesn't want to think about.]]
204
205[[WMG: Spirit was Kami's trophy boyfriend]]
206Girls wouldn't keep falling for those lines if Spirit wasn't attractive, after all. Kami must have planned a way to get Spirit for herself.
207* First, she exposed Stein experimenting on Spirit in his sleep and convinced him to change meisters - even though Spirit was supposed to keep Stein in control and he couldn't do that if they weren't partnered.
208* Then she made Spirit into a Death Scythe, but when Spirit kept flirting with other women Kami decided to forcibly cement their relationship by deliberately turning Spirit into her baby daddy. It worked in that Spirit was eager to marry her and adored their daughter, but backfired when Spirit ''still'' kept flirting with every woman he saw - plus he was more interested in Maka than he was in his wife (not THAT way!), which pissed Kami off.
209* Therefore, Kami filed for divorce and won Maka's custody in order to punish Spirit - but she doesn't care about Maka, which is why she's not around while Maka's at school. Maka, unaware of her mother's true intentions, has been manipulated to hate her father by her mother as part of Kami's revenge.
210*** Though I think this is somewhat extreme - deliberate selfishness as opposed to Spirit immaturity (and how much has his womanising *really* been shown?) - it would certainly be interesting to see the other side to the breakup of Maka's parents. All we know of the woman is that she was a great student/meister, and that Maka idolises her and wants to be as good as she was. Which may prove a [[BrokenPedestal problem]] in the future if Kami was less-than wonderful. Though as the Ghost who inspires Maka she's probably just going to be a straight-up admirable, reasonable authority figure. Making her practically unique amongst the [[CloudCuckoolander adult cast]].
211
212[[WMG: Crona is a girl]]
213Evidence:
214* Wears a dress
215** See the replies to "Confirmed, she's seen as a child wearing a (dressier) dress."
216** It looks more like a robe, which is itself gender neutral.
217* Name sounds more feminine then masculine
218* Has pink hair.
219** That doesn't matter unless s/he dyed it. In flashbacks, s/he has the same pink hair and I doubt s/he would feel the want or need to dye it at such a young age. If it's Crona's natural hair, then that doesn't indicate if s/he's a boy or a girl.
220*** ...and neither does it if it is dyed. Guys can dye their hair pink too, people.
221* Has a somewhat feminine figure.
222* Confirmed, she's seen as a child wearing a (dressier) dress.
223** Absolutely not confirmed, unless clothing is an absolute indication of gender. Might as well argue that Crona's a confirmed boy because s/he wore pants to the Shibusen Ball.
224*** Boy under a certain age used to wear dresses in the mid-16th century. Also, Medusa doesn't seem like the kind of person who would care if the clothing matched.
225* Wasn't this {{Jossed}} [[WordOfGod by the author]]?
226** If you do have proof of this information, please be kind as to give a citation of an interview from the author, or some other evidence that says this. It would be a great contribution to end the FlameWar.
227*** It wasn't a statement of fact, it was a question. Some fans claim they've read an article in which Atsushi Ohkubo has said outright that Crona is a boy, but I haven't found any such thing. It was more of a request for information, assuming someone who's claimed this before actually has proof.
228* I'm not sure if this will clear up the confusion for any one: So this was just in the anime, but I noticed that, unbuttoned, the buttons on Crona's collar are on the left side. The side which buttons are on a piece of clothing indicate what gender the clothing is meant for. On women's clothing, the buttons, unbuttoned, are on the left side. So this could indicate that Crona is wearing a dress/woman's robe. Although, in universe, I'm not sure if Medusa really cared what clothes she got Crona, or in reality, Atsushi Okubo didn't really care what side the buttons were on.
229
230[[WMG: Crona is a boy]]
231Evidence:
232* Talks with "Boku", a Japanese male pronoun.
233** That... doesn't really mean as much as you think. {{Bokukko}} use Boku even though they are girls.
234*** Yes, but aren't most {{Bokukko}} a bit more...I don't know, "outgoing" or something? I always thought most {{Bokukko}} were less ShrinkingViolet types, but that's just me.
235** The general translation for "boku" is more or less "I, a non-threatening male," which seems to fall in line with Crona's usual timidness. For a girl to use "boku," it could be more applied to a girl who's more outspoken or blunt than most. However, some {{Bokukko}} use that pronoun because they don't know any better, which would ''also'' seem very much in line with Chrona's characterization. The fact that "boku" is used sometimes for [[AmbiguousGender gender-neutral characters]] doesn't help.
236*** However...[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Alphonse Elric]] uses the pronoun "boku," and since Chrona's voice actor also voices Alphonse (Japanese too, right?)...yes, I know this is InsaneTrollLogic. I'm very sorry.
237* Has somewhat more boyish voice.
238** So I'm ''not'' the only one who thinks so!
239** It's funny you both think that because both Crona's voice actors are female who are simply using a more toned down version of their natural speaking voice. Not to mention there are cases for females to have male-like voices. So Crona's voice in both versions can be fitting for either gender.
240* Flat in the chest area. It's more obvious in the Manga, where Maka's breasts are visible and Crona is totally flat.
241** Even though it's not the best indication of gender, it's true that Maka does have ''something,'' which is still more than ''nihl''.
242** Chrona's very undernourished, she complains that her ribs show too much. Any fat deposits were eaten up a long time ago.
243*** If Crona was as malnourished as you claim, he-she wouldn't have such a feminine figure.
244** It is really hard to say. Consider the girls in Franchise/TouhouProject; Almost all girls in Touhou are flat-chested.
245*** The curves could be natural. It is possible, after all, for a flat chested female to still have a nice shape.
246* Crona is not a witch. And why would a witch's child not be a witch? Because he is a boy and only girls can be witches.
247** Do we know for a fact Chrona is not a witch? We didn't know with Kim for a while, after all. And even so, Noah might throw a hitch in that theory (maybe).
248*** In Chapter 9 and Episode 12, it is a confirmed fact that Crona is not a witch as Medusa claims she is not the only one to bring outsiders who are not witches to the Witch's Mass.
249* He did wear a tux/suit to a formal dress party.
250** Yes, but the Thompsons wore what looked like tracksuits. And there's no question of what sex they are.
251*** Well, when the Thompsons dressed up that time, it was probably planned considering Kid had them dance the can-can. Then again, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint I thought he looked really cute in that white formal suit]].
252* In Chapter 68, when Black Star sees that Crona has three Demon Swords, he mentions his own three swords. His third being his "ultimate weapon". He then wonders if Crona has one more. So he's not sure, but he's betting Crona's male.
253** But I don't think so. I think it produces one more proof for Chrona to be a girl, instead.
254** I think females will be angered for being mocked of by Black Star's Penis Joke, as they may think someone like Black Star is looking down at female for being a female.
255** I believe that the penis joke said by Black Star is quite disrespectful to any girl, and thus, no wonder that Crona is angered.
256*** I thought that Crona was more angered that Black Star's comment lead to Ragnarok trying to show hir privates. Boy or girl, Crona wouldn't like to be exposed like that.
257** It's Ragnarok's reaction that might hint at Chrona being a boy - he actually tried to ''show'' that Chrona had another "sword". He started lifting up Chrona's dress (thing), which may have been a way of "proving it" to Black*Star. Even then, I seriously don't think Ragnarok knows what gender Chrona is...
258*** Oh, come now! Rags MUST know. If Crona is a girl, she must have periods and expel blood. If Crona is a boy, he must get erections and thus have his dick filled with blood. Either way, there's no way he doesn't know!
259*** Actually, if Crona ''was'' a girl, she wouldn't have periods- she's too thin to the point of malnourishment so her body will stop the menstrual cycle in order to provide more nutrients.
260* "I don't know how to deal with girls" implies that "I" and "girls" belong to separate categories.
261** but you have to remember, the only contact Chrona had with girls (As far as we know) was with Medusa. So it could be that if Chrona is female, she doesn't know how to deal with OTHER girls.
262*** The idea isn't that not knowing how do deal with girls means Crona isn't a girl. It's that the phrasing of the statement puts girls in a separate category.
263*** Do you know how it was phrased in the original Japanese? Because in Japanese it might not be so.
264*** Well, if he has a problem dealing with girls, then why wouldn't he have a similar issue with boys? Just saying...
265*** Crona takes out a giant mob of thugs just before Maka shows up, which was, to my knowledge, entirely male. It could be that s/he had only faced males, if that scene and his/her dialogue when meeting Maka is anything to go by.,
266* To add on to the theory that Chrona is a boy, it's likely he acts and dresses feminine because Medusa wanted a girl. She basically treated him like crap for being a boy, and probably played a huge role in his own gender confusion.
267* Wasn't this confirmed [[WordOfGod by the author]]?
268** Confirmed? Where?
269*** Someone has been trolling the internet and saying it is. Some deviantART works can be found to say as much.
270* Crona is a boy because surely someone would have gotten curious and it would be a simple matter of following him to the bathroom. Everyone refers to Crona as a "he." So it seems likely to me that he's a boy.
271** Obviously in canon, everyone knows Crona's gender. And every time Crona has been referred to as "he" is really just the translator(including the dub).
272** As mentioned above "He" is the translator's way of getting around pronouns since its the most proper way of addressing someone whose gender is unknown. No one in-universe actually knows, which is why Patty asked if Liz knew whether Crona was a boy or girl, and why Black*Star asked if Crona had a "third sword."
273
274[[WMG: Chrona is a "blank"]]
275Or maybe a hermaphordite. Going with the "Chrona is a clone" theory below, Chrona doesn't really have a gender because s/he was created in Medusa's lab. Chrona's lack of powers other then the black blood and Ragnarok is due to his/her unstable sense of self.
276
277[[WMG: Chrona is female and Ragnarok is male.]]
278Now before you jump in with cries of ''no duh, dumbass'' consider the following. Chrona and Ragnarok are never seen apart. Now, that could mean that they are two entities in the same being OR they are one in the same. Ragnarok is stereotypically masculine (Huge Muscles, Comically Perverted and taking the form of a sword)) while Chrona is more stereotypically feminine (Pink hair, fond of dresses, likes cute things). Chrona and Ragnarok are the Male and Female halves of the same person. Chrona is male in the same way that Ragnarok is female. They are male. They are female. They are weapon ''and'' meister.
279* Yes, going with Crona/Ragnarok is a hermaphrodite. Two souls fused in one body due to Medusa's experiments. Ragnarok can poke out more than his sword arm whenever he chooses. Hence Rags had no problem rising to Black Star's penis joke bait. Crona resists of course because her girl parts would be shown at the same time. Thus endeth the Crona gender flame wars. (Or perhaps just adds a third faction.) I foresee some really nasty doujinshi coming...
280
281Medusa's experimented on a sane Chrona until he/she/it (whatever Chrona was originally) until they cracked and splintered into two personalities. The timid Chrona created Ragnarok as a powerful alter ego to endure Medusa's torture but his/her own self loathing created a weapon that hated its meister as much as he/she hated him/herself.
282
283[[WMG: Someday, someone will find out Crona's gender....]]
284.... but then will be killed off before the info can get out to anyone else, including the audience.
285* After all the other jokes about Crona's gender, this ''has'' to be done at some point.
286
287[[WMG: Chrona is autistic.]]
288Even after becoming one of the heroes, Chrona has been shown having a lot of difficulty interacting with people or adapting to change. S/he also walks strangely and never makes eye contact. How severe hir autism would be is questionable; S/he behaves like a person with classic autism who developed verbal abilities. However, S/he would never have had much social interaction, so s/he may instead have milder autism, but was never able to practice social skills. I think that Chrona has verbal classic autism.
289* ....Well, I think the simplest explaination for that behaviour would be Crona's treatment by Medusa and their presumably limited social interaction with others prior to coming to Shibusen. Not to mention the effect of Ragnarok on Crona's mental state. Given what we saw in flashback it's unlikely Crona would quickly adapt to anything other than relying on Medusa and her orders. And considering Medusa seemed to get her child back from Shibusen pretty quickly, Crona didn't get the chance to develop the skills they lacked. The result of insanity and trauma would be my take on it.
290
291[[WMG: Crona has no gender/sex]]
292She identifies as gender queer, was never given a gender by her parents thus does not think of one, or is intersexed.
293
294[[WMG: "Noah" is a [[Manga/DGrayMan Noah]] ]]
295[[spoiler: The fake Eibon]] He's got a tan, a snazzy dress sense, arcane knowledge, the right level of insanity (probably even before the Kishin got loose), and is apparently good at fooling humans and non-humans alike.
296
297[[WMG: Crona has no gender.]]
298Crona is in a sense not human. Crona would have neither female organs nor male organs in this theory.
299
300[[WMG: Mosquito is an abandoned sire of [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Alucard]] ]]
301He may have survived for 800 years, but it'd take more then a magic book to kill Alucard.
302* It would explain Alucard's ability to revert back to his original body(ies) and how he can turn into a cloud of bats.
303
304[[WMG: Shinigami-sama and Eibon had relationship similar to [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore and Grindelwald]] ]]
305''How'' similar has yet to be determined.
306
307[[WMG: Arachne is [[Literature/{{Coraline}} the/an Other Mother]] ]]
308She's just more effective.
309* [[http://plus4chan.org/boards/draw/src/124104879413.jpg I'll just leave this here]]
310
311[[WMG: Medusa really is concerned about Chrona]]
312In the same way [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Mayuri is concerned about Nemu]] - while she probably doesn't see Chrona as her child, she ''is'' hers - her creation and experiment - nonetheless.
313
314[[WMG: Chrona is Medusa's clone]]
315You don't really think Medusa would go through the trouble of seducing a man and waiting nine months just for a test subject, right?
316* Now consider ''Crona's name'' (and how Japanese transliteration works) and marvel once again at how brazenly Medusa hides things in plain sight.
317** For those of us that unfortunately don't know Japanese, can you explain?
318*** 'Clone', if you replace the 'r' in Crona with an 'l'? Apparently, English translation can be awkward when it comes to which of the two it should be.
319*** Actually, hir name comes from "Kuro na", that means something like "Dark One". Well, that explains a lot...
320*** Well, that would explain [[HartmanHips the hips]]...
321[[WMG:[[spoiler: Chrona has become a Kishin]]]]
322As seen in Chapter 65 Chrona appears to be undergoing some sort of ritual, possibly to [[spoiler: become a Kishin]].
323** In a depressing parallel to Maka, Crona was introduced [[spoiler: at a point when they were close to becoming a Kishin - it's why Stein and Spirit were told to kill them, but Ragnarok lost the souls when Shinigami took them from him (manga only, Maka's specialness did it in the anime). Maka began the series close to making Soul a Death Scythe, but lost them to Shinigami after they screwed up with Blair. Now, Maka and Soul have recently reached their goal, and Crona has undergone their own changes. Like Maka and Soul are vastly tougher than they were before, I reckon that Crona is vastly ''worse'', both in strength and mental state. It'll be very fun to see how Maka offers sympathy this time around. Though maybe not for a while; Crona's page of screaming was straight after a scene in Noah's hideout. Perhaps Medusa is after him and his book next, as another part of her long game (or games, she has had to re-think before now).]]
324
325[[WMG: Medusa is not Chrona's mother.]]
326I mean we only really have her word to go by and she is a chronic and competent liar.
327* Considering who she revealed this to, Medusa could have said it just to upset Spirit and Stein. It certainly struck the closest Spirit's got to a Berserk Button, as he was pissed off enough to try and attack her himself. Or want to at least give her a good talking to. And cry.
328* The likely explanation for this would be that Medusa is not Chrona's ''biological'' mother (unless we're at some point introduced to Chrona's father, which opens up a whole other can of worms for this page). Either Chrona was adopted/kidnapped or to tie into the idea that Chrona has no gender, that Medusa created her through some other method, possibly cloning or through magic.
329
330[[WMG: Medusa really is a kind woman, she's just a well intentioned extremist gone off the deep end.]]
331She does love Chrona, and does genuinely care for others, but due to reasons probably involving a horrifying tragedy in her past, possibly involving Kishin, she works along side them and does horrible things to find their weaknesses so that she may destroy them for good. She's actually raising Chrona to be a weapon against the Kishin. Unfortunately, she has gone insane during her research due to guilt and exposure to madness, and hardly remembers her past self. Someone from her past will then fight her to remind her of her true self, and she will spend the rest of the series repenting, and trying to fix Chrona's issues.
332* Even if she did 'really love them all along' she was still horrifyingly abusive, and Crona has crippling PTSD from her treatment of them. The only possible way she could repent was to stay out of Crona's life forever.
333
334[[WMG: Medusa's plan is usurp Arachne as head of Arachnaphobia]]
335But Noah and the third Gorgon sister are still Wild Cards.
336
337[[WMG: King Arthur was one of Shinigami's Eight Legendary Warriors]]
338Three guesses who his partner was (Excalibur! Excalibur! From United King! I'm looking for him! I'm going to California!)
339
340[[WMG: The third Gorgon sister will be a little girl.]]
341And she will be peaceful, wise beyond her years, and an absolute badass.
342* I support this. If only because it would throw everyone else for a loop.
343* And she has already been introduced: Angela. For starters, each [[BigBad Gorgon sister]] has had one or more male [[TheDragon Dragons]] serving her, each of whom she has some kind of hold over or has manipulated in some way. Medusa has either Free, Eruka, or possibly even Crona. Arachne has Grinko and Misquito. Angela would have Mifune. She might have even stolen a young girl form like Medusa in order to gain Mifune's protection. [[spoiler: And now that Black*Star has taken over Mifune's job...uh oh!]]
344* The third Gorgon sister's name is Shaula. She's slightly younger than Medusa and Arachne, looking teenaged, but she isn't a little girl. She was introduced in Soul Eater Not, the spinoff series.
345
346[[WMG: The third Gorgon sister will be the final BigBad in the series.]]
347There has to be a reason we haven't seen her yet.
348* I thought the reason was [[PlotTumor Plot Tumors]]. besides, wouldn't it make more sense for the Kishin to be the final BigBad?
349** Unless he's the Bigger Bad - Asura's indirectly been the cause/inspiration for most of the events in the series and the Lovecraftian stuff Okubo's been pulling recently may indicate more of a Cosmic Horror role for the Kishin and his remaining fellows. Certainly Medusa is the one ''directly'' causing the majority of [[BigBad bad]] [[KnightOfCerebus things]] so far.
350** PlayedWith. She is the BigBad of the spinoff series.
351
352[[WMG: The last Gorgon witch is dead...]]
353And Spirit and Kami killed her, which is how he became the strongest Weapon barring Excalibur. That's why there's very little talk about her in-story, there's not much else to say about a dead witch. The reason I think this is because it's so simple that there just HAS to be some truth to it.
354* Or she was the witch whose soul was used to create the first weapon.
355** Jossed, she shows up in the spinoff series.
356
357[[WMG: The final Gorgon sister is an Owl witch.]]
358Notice the trend with the first two. Both are females associated with Athena (Athena was a notable weaver; So was Arachne. Medusa's head is sometimes pictured on Athena's shield.) I personally choose to believe her name will be Metis and she'll use feathers and glasses as a motif.
359* Furthermore, Arachne and Medusa were both (as noted above) transformed humans in the myths. One other notable story where Athena transform mortals is the story of Meropis. Who was transformed into an owl for insulting Athena. In addition her family were transformed into other birds by other gods (her sister into a seagull for joining in the aformentioned insulting, her brother a charadrius for attacking the gods in retaliation and her father a Raven and added in a curse to only give bad news for complaining). In another story she recives bad news from a Raven (the same person she'd transformed in some versions, a decendant in others and occasionally just some random raven) and turned it black (which apparently made all other ravens black...when they're previously been white...yeah). Soul appears to be an albino (and in any case has white hair), so...yeah...I don't know where I'm going with that.
360* Also, the three gifts Athena gave to humanity were weaving, agriculture and metalergy. Medusa forged weapons, Arachne wove webs of decete/farmed madness so perhaps the final sister will have something to do with agriculture or weaving?
361** Actually it was Arachne who invented the demon weapons, so metallurgy fits her better. Medusa I would go with farming due to all her experiments growing things. That leaves weaving for the third sister.
362* Ooh ooh, better, her ''[[MeaningfulName NAME]]'' will be Athena!
363** Jossed. She's a scorpion witch.
364
365[[WMG: The third Gorgon sister was Actaeon... until she was killed by Arachne and used to create the Nakatsukasa weapon.]]
366In Myth/ClassicalMythology, Actaeon was a mortal (and, um, male... but bear with me here) hunter who spotted Artemis bathing, [[DistractedByTheSexy decided to stay and watch]], and was transformed into a stag and consumed by his own dogs for his trouble. So it would fit the [[ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming theme]] of “mortals transformed by gods as punishment.� Further points of interest:
367* The Nakatsukasa spirit is a deer.
368* Tsubaki can transform into a wide range of different weapons, suggesting perhaps a particularly strong witch’s soul.
369* Mosquito recognizes and expresses particular interest in Tsubaki.
370* Medusa, in recruiting [[spoiler:students for the charge she leads on Baba Yaga Castle, mentions ''only'' Black☆Star by name. Considering that one of her goals was to obtain a Gorgon body...]]
371** Oh wow. [[spoiler:If this was a [[WhatCouldHaveBeen potential plot thread]], poor Tsubaki would have been possessed by Medusa! I am both acutely terrified and genuinely aroused at the same time.]]
372[[WMG: Blair really is a Witch.]]
373Even Shinigami-sama commented on her being a witch when they were watching via [[SurveillanceAsThePlotDemands magic mirror]]. Blair being a cat doesn't exclude the possibility, as we've seen Serpent, Snake and Mouse witches. Also, we've seen that other witches have the ability to shapeshift into thematic forms. The cat soul (which is red/purple like Kishin Eggs!) she left after Soul "killed" her was just a decoy. Shinigami-sama and the other Death Scythe don't mind her existing, though, as she's not really evil. (Shinigami-sama knew that [=Black* Star=] refused to kill the child witch Angela, for example, and seems to have approved.)
374* It has paid off, her defending Death City during the Christmas attack against the Mouse Witches was an impressive display of loyalty in itself.
375** In fact, it's possible that Blair is working in secret for Shinigami-sama all along; "testing" students who technically have 99 souls; but not the power required to create a Death Scythe. Maka and Soul, for example, couldn't synchronize at the beginning of the series; once Blair figures that they aren't synchronized she "loses" in a way that forces them to give up their collected souls. This would be similar to the test that Sid and Dr. Franken Stein were a part of.
376** Just prior to B.J. dying he mentions he detects 7 Witches. At the time the confirmed are: Medusa (1), two members of the Mizune Family (3), Eruka (4), Kim (5) and two workers at the one shop Maka's father frequents (7). So unless the last two were random innocents to account for that thing that killed BJ and Blair, or Blair was out of town at that moment, then this might be jossed.
377*** After the Brew battle Blair actually went with Soul and Maka on a mission, so it's possible she really wasn't in town at the moment.
378*** Note that Free can use magic and is a "wolf", but he isn't a wolf witch, though what parts of his magic are werewolf and what parts are from the witch's eye he stole...
379*** It might be worth noting that the two unknown "witches" taken were from the club Blair works at. So it might be possible Medusa only knew a witch, or two, worked there and guessed at who she thought said witches were. The two taken are just red herrings to throw off people before the reveal.
380*** The two that were taken are clearly witches as they are shown to be talking to the head witch just before they were taken.
381*** Then for this not to be jossed three possibilities remain: She was out of town (Either coincidence or Shinnigami-sama told her to scram while B.J. was in town), B.J. was in on her thus it is 7 witches he was unfamiliar with or she's just that good at hiding herself (she is to Soul Protection as Maka is to Soul Perception).
382** One more possible point in favour of this theory; consider the writer's taste in character names, and then consider which film has Blair in the title. It's a stretch, I know, but it would fit in with the rest of the name-related wackines
383** Given Shinigami's reaction to the mere possibility that the destructive 'way of magic' could be surpressed in Angela, I'm finding it harder to believe that Blair is a human witch with a cat theme, as opposed to what she's said to be. If the Shinigami's willing to accept two witches as easily as he did, why bother to go to the trouble of hiding Blair's true nature? But Shinigami being Shinigami, he could quite simmply do both if it suited him.
384*** Key phrase there: "human witch with a cat theme". I always thought that it's sort of the other way around, a witch-cat instead of a cat-witch, if that makes any sense.
385*** See, this makes no sense, because none of her spells use a cat or feline based phrase, but Pumpkins. I think this supports the fact she's just a really magical cat of some kind. Plus the fact she doesn't lose her ears when she turns human.
386*** [[FridgeBrilliance Which would still make sense]], as Free isn't a wolf-witch, but a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werewolf]] with a witch's eye who can use [[AnIcePerson ice-based attacks]]. Blair could be a cat with some part of a witch and have a pumpkin theme after a similar fashion. [[FridgeBrilliance On top of that]], Free is immortal, and Blair has nine lives/souls, which makes it even more brilliant!
387* At this point, don't we just need Maka to look at Blair's soul to get an answer to this? She screwed up first time around because she couldn't tell a cat from a witch. Now she knows what witches are ''really'' like, and has the soul perception skills to get a definitive answer.
388* Regardless, it doesn't really matter if Blair is actually a witch or not. She's proven herself to not be evil, like Kim.
389* Unless the scanlation is wrong, on the Christmas attack Death the Kid comments he senses 8 witches. There are 5 Mizune sisters, Eruka(6) and Medusa(7), which leaves an 8th spot open
390** It's possible that Kid was including Free as a witch since he mentioned Ragnarok (And by extension Chrona) but not Free as an addition.
391
392[[WMG:Blair is a former witch's cat]]
393Lets face it, she must've learnt it from somewhere. Her powers might even be due to her being used as a guinea pig during her kitten-hood (this is not a source of angst due to her being, well, Blair).
394
395[[WMG: Kim is being set up for a HeroicSacrifice.]]
396By letting Kim stick around, Shinigami has made sure the Spartoi have a witch handy who's indebted to the good guys. If worse came to worst, she might sacrifice herself to let one of their Weapons become a Death Scythe. (Who knows whether the 99 evil souls are all necessary, or just a nice big number to make sure the Meister is fully trained?) Nobody else has even thought about this, but Shinigami has -- and he hopes it won't happen, but a little insurance never hurts, right?
397* If so, then Angela would be in the same boat.
398[[WMG: Tsubaki becomes a Death Scythe by eating Angela's soul.]]
399* She already fulfilled the requirement for 99 souls from [[spoiler: Mifune,]] so she's primed to become a Death Scythe at any time. Will mostly likely involve a HeroicSacrifice on the little witch's part.
400** Ironically, this was the [[spoiler: original plan for completing Tsubaki's requirements, back when she and her meister were first introduced.]]
401
402[[WMG: Kim is spying on the Witches Assembly, which will act eventually]]
403We saw her at the assembly meetings before her being a witch became common knowledge. Shinigami didn't keep her around just to brainwash the 'sway of magic' out of Angela, he did it because he can use her to find out what his enemies are up to. Just because the Witches Assembly hasn't done anything of note yet doesn't necessarily take it out of the picture. The Queen's intention, after all, is for them to act as a group and not singularly as two of the Gorgons did; she was waiting to see what transpired. Smart woman. Unless, of course, the author has forgotten them as a potential...fifth side in this messy conflict.
404
405[[WMG: There's a specific reason why there are no male witches (i.e. warlocks) that isn't genetic.]]
406Either every time one is born they're slaughtered because the witch society is against men for anything other than mating, or like the [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Gerudo]], one is born every X amount of years and they become the automatic ruler of the witch society. The head witch- I can't remember her name, sorry- wanted to keep her power and not give it away to some man, so she put a 'law' in place hat any male witch born was to be killed.
407* The witch leader's name is Mabaa, which roughly means "Old Witch". The English dub of the anime calls her the "Grandwitch".
408** Sorcerers are male witches, so the first theory and the second theory could sorta work. (Mostly the second theory, it applies much better to manga canon, and adds needed world building.
409
410[[WMG: There will be a truce between Shibusen and the witches (in general) against the BigBad.]]
411I mean, come on, every substantial villain this series has seen easily poses (or has posed) a threat to both sides. So for an all-powerful, all-threatening force to surface, it would only be natural for two rival groups to set aside centuries worth of manslaughter on both sides to team up and fight a common enemy.
412* Would make sense, as Asura and possibly [[spoiler: the remaining Great Old One/s]] are a threat to both sides, as is Medusa. An early chapter and comment by Eruka tells us that the Witch Queen was then biding her time before acting, uncertain of what the future held. If waiting has allowed her to see how the Witches Assembly and Shibusen have enemies in common, perhaps it will lead to an Enemy Mine (?) situation of both working together.
413** Surprisingly confirmed. Kid convinces Mabaa for a truce ad to put the fighting behind them, even after Asura's defeat.
414
415[[WMG: Medusa will be the true BigBad in the end]]
416She's clearly an EvilCounterpart of Shinigami; Witch vs. Death God that hunts witches. She created a child which she experimented on and abused horribly, he created a child which he treated with some degree of love and care (we assume) but kept in the dark about his true nature and (to a degree) powers. She wants to create a demon weapon, he wants to create death scythes...
417
418[[WMG: Shinigami is evil]]
419Just because he apparently appointed himself ruler of the world and protector of balance, doesn't mean he is good I mean it looks like he put out an extermination order out on the witches even five year-olds like Angela or people that were not confirmed as being witches like Blair.
420* Perhaps not evil per say, but what if he's simply SelfishGood? ''Discworld'' aside, having someone like Death be the one and only staunch protector of life and normalcy is rather thematically odd, what might make some sense is if he's simply trying to protect the historical cycle of birth and senescence on Earth from any radical change, purely because that would mean he'd be out of a job and thus [[AnthropomorphicPersonification cease to be]]. This also explains his choice of enemies: Kishins and other generic monsters (too many humans eaten would turn the world into a lifeless wasteland,) Asura (a formless sea of chaotic madness would have no life or death,) and the witches (numerous unnatural experiments, most particularly immortality.)
421** Well he still uses ChildSoldiers as his personal army to fight {{Eldritch Abomination}}s for him. Although he is lawful he is not good, in fact I would have trouble explaining such behavior as neutral even when and if those ChildSoldiers were absolutely necessary.
422** If his main goal is to protect the cycle of life and '''death''' at any cost, with being a nice guy strictly incidental in nature, that would match up pretty well with child soldiers.
423*** But he is still evil don't forget he made Asura the monster his today by training the poor bastard, [[spoiler: created Asura himself]], basically raised his [[spoiler: two sons to [[LaserGuidedTykeBomb despise and foil each other]]]], shamelessly [[spoiler: replaced his older son with an "improved" one, tore off his skin with little to no remorse,]] and seems slightly interested to see which side Kid will take, rather than worried. He also has had shady dealings with Eibon and Medusa and has consented to the use of the Morality Manipulation Machine on the aforementioned five year-old to turn her into one of his soldiers. So I am pretty sure he is a VillainWithGoodPublicity and an EldritchAbomination because he is '''Law''' not good or even neutral.
424*** Many of the spoilered information above are from wrong translation of ch 108 and possibly other preceding chapters. [[spoiler: he clearly regrets that he created Asura, repeatedly stating that "it's all from the seeds I've sown." His exact lines from ch 108: "It is all my fault... but I can't do anything other than pushing the burden onto Kid and others." He even says that he is in no position to criticize Medusa for experimenting with her own child, comparing it to how he himself created Asura. And no one mentioned anything about which side Kid will take. Excalibur said he will see for Shinigami's sake(because he's going to die) which of the two sons will become a new Shinigami.]]
425*** Interesting theory, but slight problem, with the "extermination of witches" bit: he didn't object to Black*Star sparing Angela (he even tried to give Black*Star a heads-up before he took the assignment).
426*** The idea of possibly using the Morality Manipulation Machine on Angela came from Kim, in an attempt to convince Shinigami that they could handle Angela. Shinigami just replies with a blanket OK to the idea of taking Angela in, without replying to any of the specific details they mentioned. He just doesn't talk details in general, and his alternative answer would have been "No we can't keep her."
427
428* Or not evil, just different. For starters, he is implied to be [[spoiler: a personification of the madness of Order, etc., which means he's an Eldrich Abomination]]. Also, depending on language or translation, his name (which he presumably chose himself) is either "Death", "God of Death", or "Grim Reaper". All the "evil points" ascribed to him are based on what central theme: That he kills people (directly or via proxy), allows people to be killed, or endangers people (particularly children). He may not even think that death is all that bad, so long as order is preserved. He may not be good though, just Lawful Neutral, which leads us to:
429
430[[WMG: Kidd was created to make Shinigami more human]]
431A continuation of the rebuttal of the above guess: Kidd was asexually created by Shinigami to make him more human. Its the reason both for the asymmetric hair lines, and how Kidd's power up seems to drain Shinigami. They are truely one being, thus one "energy reservoir". Kidd will live as a human, and then eventually be re-assimilated into his father, changing the latter to be more human.
432
433[[WMG: Regarding Lord Death's body..]]
434I'm thinking maybe his soul is bonded to that weird-looking appearance, much like Alphonse from Manga/FullmetalAlchemist
435* Adding to this, in some way he lost his body, and before that, he impregnated whoever Kid's mother is before his soul was bonded to his current form. FMA crossover anyone?
436** Don't flashbacks of roughly 800 years ago show Shinigami still looking the same? He's a literal god, I think he can take whatever form he wants. Kid's got a human form due to being incredibly young by Shinigami standards, and also not a full fledged shinigami yet. As for Kid's mother, Shinigami are completely asexual, Kid just flat out doesn't have one.
437
438[[WMG: Death's room in the DWMA is his MentalWorld]]
439So the room with the mirror Death usually hangs around in appears to be some kind of strange infinite BiggerOnTheInside violation of geometry, one bearing an oddly minimalistic appearance and loaded with symbolism related to him. It's rather strange really, the only other places like it in ''Soul Eater'' are… stuff like the lake inside Tsubaki's head, or the desert/beach in Crona's.
440* That seems plausible.
441
442[[WMG: Death the Kid will finally confront Shingami]]
443Because come on, Kid's been trying to figure out everything on his own, and probably would have continued on this track had [[spoiler:his very own ''existence'']] not been questioned. After most likely some form of a [[HeroicBSOD Herioc BSOD]], or maybe even during it, he'll finally demand answers of some form. It would be cool if he did it in front of all his friends, but doesn't really matter. Whether Shingami responds, however...
444* Kid's suffered from his assumption that Shinigami would not tell him the truth about Eibon. He was probably right, but like with the "Kishin closest to all of us" question (incidentally,it's worth noting Shinigami was lying about Asura ''again'' when he said he didn't know what he was. Just how far is he obfuscating...ignorance?) he might have been given something to go on if not the whole truth. As it is, Kid's hit with the [[spoiler: GOO's Reveal without any solid information, poor bugger. He's got a lot to learn and confronting Shinigami would seem to be the way to get some answers. Shinigami will probably need to be straight with his 'fragment' eventually, because Kid's current state shows that even 'beings of insanity' can be driven into further madness and presumably on a purely practical level Shinigami wants Kid on-side to function as his replacement. (That and the fact I think he actually cares and won't be too happy another of his old friends is causing his not-exactly child grief).]]
445** Happened in the anime. We know how that turned out. Don't think it'll happen the same way in the manga given the circumstances.
446*** You're probably right. Though it always struck me as daft, if understandable, that Kid didn't look for more information from his father in the manga and instead went along with poorly founded suspicions. Suspicions which turn out to be just part of only one side of the story. So much for looking for order and balance if you don't know one side from the other. Just one of the mistakes he makes.
447
448[[WMG: A shinigami "dies" when he has a successor]]
449It means Shinigami-sama would "die" (or whatever that happens to a Shinigami) when all of Kid's Sanzu Line connect and he will turn into a real Shinigami. That can explain why Shinigami-sama fell over when Kid's Sanzu Line connected, and why Spirit looked so morbid.
450* Seems to be the common fandom interpretation for the moment. Having an heir would make an awful lot of sense given that Shinigami is stuck, and there are clearly threats around that need a mobile death god. Having one only now could be justified by the current strength of Shibusen, as Mosquito admits its enough to maintain the order in the world, or at least until Asura's resurrection began to tip the balance. Before that point, any young shinigami could have been at too great a risk from the Shinigami's numerous opponents. After all, whatever Kid will grow up to be, until very recently he's not been shown as much more than a strong, fast meister not at all far removed from his human classmates.
451** Confirmed. Once all of Kid's Sanzu lines connected, he ahs become a true Shinigami while Shinigami-sama fades into dust, proud of his son's achievements.
452
453[[WMG: Shinigami does have a human form]]
454Mosquito's comment about adult shinigami having full Sanzu Lines makes this at least possible. Alternatively, he had one but lost it as he aged. Kid's been shown battered and bleeding plenty of times, but when Brew did its stuff he started looking less human and more like his father what with how those skull-arm things were working.
455
456[[WMG: Kid's Sanzu Lines won't kill Shinigami]]
457While the chapter where Shinigami reacted to Kid's Sanzu Line...thing did leave the strong impression that the Lines are going to be fatal for Shinigami, it's not necessarily the case. For the simple fact that Kid already has ''half'' of his Sanzu Lines. All he's missing is the second half that will complete the lines when he's a mature shinigami and not just, well, a child like Mosquito said. So, when this happens Shinigami will lost whatever traits correspond to the second half of the lines and be in a state similar to how Kid is now; fast, strong, damn tough with a Weapon, but not as powerful as a 'true' shinigami. They will, in other words, trade places. Shinigami isn't bothered because replacing him is why Kid is around in the first place and because he's ''Shinigami'' and he doesn't angst or mope much. His Death Scythe, on the other hand....
458** Jossed. Shinigami died once Kid connected all his lines. Ouch.
459
460[[WMG: Eibon's full name has been revealed. It is Eibon Shinigami.]]
461Kidd misread the name plate, and the Witches never realized the truth. It isn't Eibon and Shinigami. It is Eibon Shinigami. His first name written in a personal style, but Shinigami, the family name, written in the traditional family style. Here is the evidence for this conclusion:
462* Eibon and Shinigami so far haven't been seen together, which doesn't seem out of place until you think back to the battle for Brew. Eibon just happens to show up when Shinigami did? Not to mention Medua made the claim Arachne made the first demon weapon without the aid of Eibon, just his book.
463* Demon weapon and death scythes are implied to be one in the same through the creation of the first "demon weapon" described. A good many souls with a witch soul to glue it all together. Just the motives seem to be different. Ragnarok is off in this regard not because of being a demon weapon, but the black blood.
464* Shinigami has a large collection of Eibon's stuff. He didn't gather it all, it was his to begin with.
465* They look similar enough that the difference could just be a mask-swap away.
466* Eibon created "Brew", which can draw out Shinigami powers - a likely invention of a Shinigami.
467** Actually, Mosquito says it enhances soul wavelengths, not specifically shinigami abilities. The Sanzu thing came about because of the kind of soul Brew was enhancing at the time. I wonder whether this was the reason Shinigami gave it to Kid; unlike the others, he hasn't had any major development in his abilities, and Shinigami knows the kind of thing Arachne does and what shinigami - obviously - are capable of.
468
469[[WMG: Manga spoilers: [[spoiler:The [[EldritchAbomination Great Old Ones]] are manifestations of different "flavors" of Madness]]]]
470[[spoiler:Not really much of a WMG, really, given that the ''thing'' in the Book of Eibon more or less spells it out, describing the Great Old Ones as existences that "drive men to madness," specifically mentioning "order", "knowledge", "power", "rage" and "terror". He also mentions that only five of the eight great old ones are still alive: Himself (Power), Death (Order), Eibon (Knowledge), Ashura (Terror) and Excalibur (Rage). The other three are unknown, having been devoured by Asura.]]
471
472I mention all this information to lay the groundwork for ''this'' WMG:
473
474[[WMG:Death the Kid's new upgrade will be [[spoiler:to use the new "Madness Fusion" technique]]]]
475It makes sense in a way. We've already seen both [[spoiler:Medusa]] and [[spoiler:Justin]] use it, using [[spoiler:the clown]], which is an actual embodiment of insanity. The author isn't just going to let a new skill like this appear once and once only. However, the reasons I think that this is possible for Kid and Kid only is that:
476
477* Both the [[spoiler:Great Old One]] and the [[spoiler:Table of Contents]] called him (or at least implied) that he's a fragment of [[spoiler:Shinigami]], who in turn is presumed to be the [[spoiler:very being of the Madness known as the rule of law]], implying that Kid himself is a being of absolute [[spoiler:insanity]], similar to that of [[spoiler:the clown]].
478
479* As of chapter 73, it is most likely safe to assume that Kid is currently [[spoiler:''INSANE'']]
480
481* Kid is obsessed with balance (even if he does tend to focus on the balance created through symmetry) to illogical degrees--rather than just kick any irrational thoughts of insanity or following the path of the kishin, which both [[spoiler:Maka]] and [[spoiler:Black* Star]] did, he'll figure out some way to balance sanity and insanity.
482
483* By creating this balance, Kid will be able to use himself as a catalyst for the technique [[spoiler:"Madness Fusion"]], rather than using [[spoiler:the clown]] since, even if just a [[spoiler:''fragment'' of the Madness known as Law]], Kid still is a being of [[spoiler:insanity]].
484
485If he does get the ability, it will probably let him power up several of his moves, or simply Liz and Patti. It might even let him develop some shinigami skills that should have come with age or proper training, or may allow him to force a similar reaction with his [[spoiler:Sanzu Lines]] as the [[spoiler:Brew]] did.
486
487Chances are he'll be snapped out of whatever he is in when [[spoiler:Spartoi]] finally find him anyway, but it would be a really cool way to come back into action. Even if it is a one off of [[spoiler:regaining his sanity]] whilst he's in his state, just to see him use some skills of controlling his [[spoiler:madness]] rather than pushing away like everyone else would be kind of neat.
488
489[[WMG: Noah is a creation of Eibon]]
490Or perhaps more indirectly, a creation of the Table of Contents. [[spoiler:It wishes to teach humanity (revealed in ch82) and created Noah to fulfill it's goals by as of yet unknown means. It can resurrect Noah again as different personifications of the Sins. The first Noah was the Noah of Greed, who wished to collect everything, and the new Noah is the Noah of Rage (the TOC called out "Statue of Rage" when resurrecting him). This new Noah's ambitions probably accord to his sin.]]
491* Shinigami knows what Noah was, a chapter of the book, but didn't exactly admit it when Kid claimed - rightly enough - that Noah was like a 'machine' rather than a person.
492** Confirmed. Noah is a personification of the Book's power. Also, each Noah is driven by a different chapter (the most well-known being Greed Noah.)
493
494[[WMG:Noah is really the Kishin, Asura.]]l
495I typed this one up a while ago; I think it's since been {{Jossed}}, but I like it, so I'm posting it anyway. Here's the evidence, accurate up to Ch. 60 or so:
496* Asura was built up as the ultimate villain of the series, a role he certainly played in the anime, but we've seen neither hide nor hair of him in the manga since he first escaped. Instead, Arachne became the immediate threat. Now that her storyline (and arguable PlotTumor) is over, surely it's time to return to the BigBad. Noah looks like another distraction -- but not if he's really the Kishin.
497* Asura lives in constant terror and is obsessed with concealing himself; hence all the scarves. So even if he's going to take direct action, he'll want to be as well hidden as possible. How better than with a whole new identity? Hell, he's had two (Noah was calling himself Eibon for a while).
498* Following on that last point, Noah's highest priority so far has been to eliminate the Shibusen personnel who are best with Soul Detection -- i.e. those who would have the best chance of seeing through Noah's disguise, be it Soul Protection or something stronger.
499* So far, we only know of one character who was working directly for the Kishin: Nidhogg, captain of the Flying Dutchman. And who was he working with when we last saw him? Noah's buddy the Clown.
500* Considering his god complex, Justin Law surely wouldn't have betrayed Shinigami for just anybody. His motive gets a lot more powerful if Noah is really Asura.
501
502[[WMG: Asura's weapon partner still exists]]
503He's still got the weapon itself in his throat - Asura uses it against Shinigami - which means that the weapon could be freed from Asura's body. Granted, the poor weapon's mind is probably shot to hell with madness by now, but there's no reason he or she can't make an appearance anyways.
504* Considering the number of parallels between Asura/his Weapon and Crona/Ragnarok (the Weapon existing within the meister's body, the affects of fear leading to madness and great destructive power (or so it [[TheReveal seemed...]])), there could well be something in this.
505
506[[WMG: Asura (and possibly his first fight with Shinigami) caused TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]
507This is why the sun and the moon look messed up as well as all the wildly varied settings in one world, complete with people even forgetting who King Arthur was beyond a wielder of Excalibur, thus the series actually takes place in a rebuilt AfterTheEnd. As to how the world was rebuilt, possibly Shinigami, as a personification of Order, was able to rebuild ALMOST every... As he remembered. It's possible there were other places not as badly damaged by everything, leaving strange gaps and anachronisms.
508* Wow, that actually makes ''sense''! Whoever wrote this, PLEASE make a fanfic about it.
509** I'm flattered and even considered this, but there's really not much to say about it. I mostly figured this based on the pre-opener scenes shown in the anime with Asura standing amidst an endless and massive pile of bodies, and beyond that a seeming world in ruins.
510* This would explain Excalibur, he isn't insane or rambling just for the hell of it, he's bringing up actual history but time has been fractured and people instinctively freak out about it because of mental blocks put into place by Lord Death. Excalibur is the Madness of Rage, and nothing makes people angrier than the truth.
511
512[[WMG:Eibon is connected to Ashura, and one or the other might be Death the Kid's other parent.]]
513Compare Death the Kid's hairstyle that is genetically kept that way, see when he admits to haveing tried dying it in the past, to [=Ashura/Kishin's=]. With the lack of another parent it would seem either Ashura is the other parent or someone linked to him. Eibon is only thrown in as Death's father had a connection to Eibon and it would seem strange for Death the Kid to have two fathers assuming Ashura is also male.
514* Other possibilities would be Ashura = Eibon, Eibon = Ashura's weapon and maybe Eibon = Ashura's relative. Also Shinigami might be secretly female.
515* Partially Jossed it seems with the revelation of Eibon with Arcanaphobia and clearly being male.
516** Except that "Eibon" just admitted himself to be a wannabe using the name. So the original Eibon could easily have been female (super easily, considering the mask and duvet he or she was wearing in the flashback).
517** However, Kid's hair is apparently important: Mosquito comments on how the "lines of Sanju" are not complete....and then Kid gets fused with the Brew and one line completes itself and he gets a power-up.
518*** And Ashura/Kishin's could merely be Sanju lines ALL connected, ifin you support this theory.
519*** Then they'd have to 'broken' ones; they go the wrong way, being vertical rather than horizontal. Even so, I still like the idea of Asura as a 'broken' shinigami.
520*** Actually, look closely at Asura's hair. It's keeping in with his motif. They're eyes.
521* I actually imagined at one point that Ashura may be Kid's genetic father, and that Shinigami only adopted him and lied about his heritage for all those years.
522** Interesting in light of recent manga chapters. They ''are'' vaguely related, and Shinigami has been lying (or at least omitting certain significant details), though it seems definite that he and not Asura is Kid's father. For a given value of [[TrulySingleParent 'father']].
523
524[[WMG:Kisin are created by invoking LonersAreFreaks]]
525Shinigami basically says that Asura became evil because he was scared of being betrayed. When he appears [[spoiler: after being revived]] he basically freaks out at being naked (or that's how I interprited him screaming at the only humanoid female present and improvising clothing from his own skin anyway) and [[spoiler: Aracne may have controlled him briefly with ThePowerOfLove, even though he didn't trust her]]. The only other character we see being this painfully shy is Chrona; a potential Kisin candidate. Furthermore there's Masamune, also on his way to becoming one (who became evil "because he was lonely" [[spoiler: Well, that and sibling rivalry]]). Also, notice how in the anime [[spoiler: Ragnorak was forced into SleepSizeMode by Chrona's HeelFaceTurn]], implying that Chrona was actually weakened by ThePowerOfFriendship. Oh, and what causes eveyone to worry [[spoiler: Black* Star]] might be headed this way? Training on his own and having trouble working in a group.
526* [[spoiler: Justin fits this one: a Weapon without a [[ThePowerOfFriendship meister]], [[HeadphonesEqualIsolation isolated]] from others and appears to have gone mad after encountering the Clown.]]
527* [[spoiler: Kid's now met the 'isolation' criteria in an extreme fashion, which he - in his moment of insanity - ''greatly'' appreciates for it represents absolute order with 'no left or right'. The difference being that unlike the other two he didn't seek it out, it found him.]]
528
529[[WMG:Spirit will go mad (sort of)]]
530Okay, silly, I know, but I like it for the lulz and/or potential Nightmare Fuel. Think of it: insanity is contagious, and Spirit has spent plenty of time around people who are either insane (Stein), or tackling insane characters alongside those who are hardly normal or particularly stable themselves (Shinigami). We know also that insanity can be transmitted from weapon to meister through soul resonance. If we assume the reverse is true, then Spirit has been exposed to Stein's madness for years. Why has there been no ill-effects? Well, because as we're shown and told, Spirit has a knack for controlling soul wavelengths (and becoming a Death Scythe only heightens this skill). If Stein can adapt his soul wavelength to compensate for his own madness, then why not the Weapon who is tasked with controlling the "hedonistic sadist" in the first place? Evidence that he is somehow affected by Asura's release; none, even at the time, he only noted the wavelength's existence. But...WMG, anyway?
531
532[[WMG: Justin Law is a spy for Shibusen, and his crucifix is his communication device.]]
533Remember, right before the fight with Stein and Marie, how he kissed his crucifix and apologized for the sins he was about to commit? Maybe he was talking about causing the people close to him anguish and the like, rather than betraying Shibusen - remember, he thinks that Shinigami is Jesus Christ, so I don't see him betraying his own God that easily, especially seeing how he's a Christian and all that. And remember how he took off his earplugs to listen to Kid's screaming? Maybe Kid was actually speaking in code about what he had seen in the book of Eibon, and Justin needed to take off his earplugs, since he couldn't read lips that he can't see.
534
535[[WMG: Alternatively,Justin is actually a Non-christian.]]
536It's the perfect disguise: Who would suspect the priest?
537* Altar boys, [[PedophilePriest naturally.]]
538* Well, he does seem to be wearing a yamaka...
539** Actually, I thought his headgear was supposed to be a zucchetto or pileolus. (The little hat thing popes and such wear).
540* I thought he just wore it for the aesthetic.
541
542[[WMG: Justin Law's cross is also his iPod]]
543Just because.
544* Why isn't it connected to his earbuds then?
545** RuleOfCool has been shown time and time again to govern the world of Soul Eater. I'd be surprised if his Cross WASN'T his iPod.
546** The earbuds ''are'' connected... wirelessly. Why bother? RuleOfCool.
547
548[[WMG: The Clown, [[spoiler: Justin Law and now Giriko are all working for or with Eibon/Noah.]]]]
549When forced to retreat by Marie and Stein, [[spoiler: Law]] uses a piece of paper to escape, by being sucked into it and disappearing, much like how Eibon/Noah has been shown to capture things inside his book. This was a spare page of the book, which allowed him to teleport to his new partner/master's location.
550
551[[WMG: That thing on Giriko's nose that looks like a snore strip...]]
552... Is an actual snore strip. If he doesn't wear it he'll buzz like a chainsaw, even when he's awake.
553* [[RuleOfFunny Great.]]
554
555[[WMG: Giriko, in some previous incarnation, killed a witch]]
556We already know he's at least as powerful as a Death Scythe, and he's perhaps the most creative of all Weapons when it comes to using his Weapon form on his own in battle; armour, ''transport'', various attacks. The others can manage blades and chains on occasion but not very much. We're told by Marie that changing one's Weapon form is a basic thing for a Death Scythe. Giriko having eaten a witch's soul would give another explanation for his style of combat, and the fact he stood up to Justin however briefly. He's a Death Scythe in all but name. Given that [[spoiler: it'll be doubly interesting to see how his fight with Soul turns out. He's got more experience, more versatility, Soul's got 'courage' in a chapter which involves apathy.]]
557
558[[WMG: Maka will be the one to kill Free]]
559Or more accurately, she's the only one able to kill him. Maka has the anti-demon soul wavelength, and there's been all of ONE injury we've seen free not recover from... when Maka cut off his tail with Hunting-Witch. With the power of her soul wavelength. Gopher might be able to do it as well.
560* After looking at a few of Free's appearances, Maka's demonslayer wavelength and anti-magic of Witch Hunter did manage to remove his tail, so it seems you have a point. It's presumably down to the kind of soul behind the attack, rather than the amount of damage done to the werewolf; he ''seemed'' to get cut in two by Mosquito and still survived (although he might have produced the hologram while Mosquito was transforming (realising it was bad news), and it was this that the vampire cut in half) Frankly, Maka's been given a collection of abilities which allow her to potentially wipe out ''all'' the antagonists. Might as well add the 'immortal' werewolf to the list... (if you're right, it sounds as though Free boasted about more than his magical ability).
561** Exactly. Except for... Free? Realize ANYTHING is bad news? If that's true, there would also be some ObfuscatingStupidity going around.
562*** Nah, I just didn't consider Free's carelessness - silly thing to miss out seeing as I re-read his original and the Baba Yaga fight chapters to ''write'' that point * shrug* . And even doing it, say, because he figured actually * breaking the lock they came for* would be a good idea, it's a rather too sensible conclusion for him to come to; do the job, leave the kid to get owned.
563
564[[WMG: Excalibur is not really that obnoxious]]
565Think about it: if YOU were the [[InfinityPlusOneSword ultimate weapon]], would YOU want a bunch of inexperienced teenagers just waltzing in and claiming you as theirs? Excalibur's [[ObfuscatingStupidity song and dance routine]] is his way of testing potential meisters - only the most noble, bravest, and most ''patient'' warriors (ie someone with years of training and experience) can put up with him. Even with Hero, Excalibur made himself obnoxious on purpose via sneezing because Hero's motives weren't pure. Excalibur's wielders aren't heroes because they put up with him, they put up with him because they're ''truly'' heroes.
566* Actually, if we combine this theory with another one below, about Excalibur having the madness of power, he acts this way to stop that madness from spreading. those that can put up with him could probably survive the madness.
567* He DID seem more normal, when he was offering his help in chapter 74...
568** More proof is when it's heavily hinted that Excalibur is the Great Old One of Madness of Rage. He encites rage into people to detur them from using his power properly. Those who maintain control of themselves (possibly TranquilFury) and being noble individuals he lets them wield and is serious.
569
570[[WMG: Excalibur is a ComicBook/{{Bone}}]]
571Seriously, he looks like one of the Bones, but with a nose job. Plus he acts like an even more full of himself version of Phoney, though without the greed. This probably makes the Lord of the Locusts a Kishin as well...
572* Personally I thought he looked rather Moomin-esque...
573* That makes way too much sense. Excaliber being a bone is now art of my personal cannon.
574
575[[WMG: Excalibur is the [[spoiler: Madness of Rage]]]]
576That is why he was in the "Wrath" chapter. This perfectly fits his personality as well. Only someone who can not get mad at Excalibur through all his antics and provisions would be able to handle hia "Rage". He's the most powerful weapon in existence because he is the only (known) Great Old One who was a weapon, not a meister.
577** Not outright confirmed, but heavily hinted at.
578
579[[WMG: Manga spoilers: [[spoiler:Excalibur is the remaining Great Old One]]]]
580[[spoiler: He is insanely powerful, clearly not any normal being, has met Kid (and Black☆Star), and is certainly more than capable of driving people insane. Whether he has been sealed in his waterfall cave against his will, like Ashura was, or willing became a recluse for the greater good, like Death seems to be, I cannot fathom.]]
581[[spoiler:If we take the "elements" of Madness the sealed GOO mentioned to be the remaining living manifestations -- which, given that Order (Death) and Terror (Ashura) are of course, still alive, makes it seem likely -- than I would posit that Excalibur would have to be Power. If not, and the elements the GOO mentioned ''weren't'' necessarily meant to describe the ''living'' Great Old Ones, though, than I say Pride would clearly fit better.]]
582* [[spoiler:(ﺧ益ﺨ)]]
583* [[spoiler: Or it could be Free.]]
584** Possibly confirmed [[spoiler: Noah said that he only needed to get Shinigami and Asura, and he'd have all the remaining Great Old Ones (or at least implied this). Guess who we just met in chapter 74? Excalibur. (ﺧ益ﺨ)]]
585[[WMG: Excalibur is a parody of The Moomins.]]
586He looks incredibly similar to them. The joke about him wearing clothes yet not wearing pants has been mentioned around the Moomins a lot… and to top it all off, his voice actor dubbed Snufkin in the Japanese animation of them. Coincidence? I think not.
587
588[[WMG: Excalibur's "auto-resonance" with anyone results in automatic psychic emanations of disgust and rejection.]]
589People have thrown Excalibur away; regardless of their situation. This goes beyond "annoyance." When you live in a world of soul-consuming {{Eldritch Abomination}}s; "annoying" wouldn't be enough to throw it away at every opportunity. (Which many have done while in the middle of being under attack by said monstrosities.) Whatever "override" that Excalibur has that allows resonance with anyones soul causes acute psychological distress. While it appears the soul "resonates" with Excalibur; resonating with an unknown entity without being "familiar" with it causes the mind to reject it. The "It's annoying" response is a self-defense cushion for the mind.
590
591[[WMG: Soul Evans will continue to grow in power and eventually become [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters Vigilance]]]]]]
592Just a RuleOfCool WMG, but given how souls seem to be used as power sources in Soul Eater and in Soul Nomad the most powerful spell catalyst thingy is the Crimson Tear, the crystallized form of someone's soul i may not be too far off.
593
594[[WMG: Dr. Stein is [[Manga/FrankenFran Fran Madaraki]]'s relative]]
595The only "enhancements" Dr. Madaraki made were her extra limbs.
596* Franken ''does'' sound like a surname. I could believe that there's a stitched-up old Asian woman out there who insists on putting the family name first.
597* I think she's his daughter. She has the stitching, and also has blond hair. Both potential love interests for Stein have blond hair. Make of that what you will.
598** Now watch as your brain slowly shifts and notices that Maka is blond as well...
599*** As are the Thompson sisters. God help those poor girls if they ever do badly on a test and need an A ''really'' badly.
600
601[[WMG: Dr. Stein is this world's [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Gaius Baltar]] ]]
602And with the help of [=HeadMedusa=] and Empathetic Weapon Marie he's going to lead a small country and start a hugely popular cult (and not let Spirit have any of the babes).
603
604[[WMG: All the witches are outlaws and rejects from Witch Heaven]]
605From the mini-anime ''Anime/TweenyWitches''. All the BigBad witches would definitely have had to leave.
606
607[[WMG: Yumi Azusa is an older [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} Yumi Ozawa]].]]
608After the events of [[VideoGame/{{Persona 4}} P4]], Ozawa decides to change her lifestyle. She buckles down in her studies, enters student council, and starts grows out of her talkative, attention-seeking phase. Like so many others in Inaba, she eventually discovers she has a secret power; hers just happens to take a different form... One that Shinigami's interested in. She gets scouted, enters Shibusen, and many, many years later she's one of his Death Scythes.
609* And Stein is the crazy grown up version of Souji, aka the Protagonist
610
611[[WMG: Ox and Kim are {{Shout Out}}s to ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} and Liz]]
612Only the opposite: Ox is pure intellect while Hellboy relies on brute strength (most of the time); Kim's healing powers vs. Liz's destructive fire powers. Their "weapon's" elements - electricity and fire, respectively - are definitely opposites to Abe's element of water, and maybe Bob the Homunculus' element of (power-absorbing) stone and Johann's ectoplasm "air/aether".
613
614[[WMG: The universe in ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'' is the same as that in ''SOUL EATER''.]]
615In addition to sharing the same animation studio, same director, and a few of the same voice actors, there are in-universe implication. The characters obviously live in a world equivalent to modern Japan and other parts of the world- and who's to say the characters in ''SOUL EATER'' are not sent on missions in the same world? The enemies that the Host Club encounter are souls gone bad, and will one day be collected by meisters!.
616[[WMG: Patty was [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Lilinette Gingerback]] in a past life.]]
617It would explain a great deal.
618** Or Lilinette was originally Patti, and Starrk at one point consumed her soul. But that's just depressing, Lilinette getting a further, better existence is the nicer option. Though if she's Lilinette, what happened to Starrk? They were the same being once, after all.
619*** Starrk is Liz, of course.
620
621[[WMG: Spirit/Death Scythe is in someway related to [[Series/{{Victorious}} Cat Valentine]]. ]]
622They have the same hair color, and both are fairly eccentric. Nevada also is not far from Los Angeles. In fact, Spirit could be her unseen brother.
623
624[[WMG: The Soul Eater universe is in the same universe as ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''.]]
625They're both Square Enix-owned, and souls are pretty close to hearts. Besides, how awesome would it be to see Soul and Maka hanging out with Cloud Strife in Hollow Bastion in Kingdom Hearts III? That'd be a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome right away.
626* Then [[Literature/HunchbackOfNotreDame Frollo]] Would think that Maka and Soul are witches
627** Is there anyone in ''Manga/SoulEater'' he wouldn't consider a witch?
628*** Or maybe Frollo was tudored by Justin Law, who definitely has a priest/bishop/cardinal/Inquistion theme going.
629
630[[WMG: Soul is Brendan from Pokemon.]]
631Oh ''come on.'' Just look at the guy! And then look at the male player character from Pokemon R/S/E.
632* adding to that, Spirit is Silver all grown up.
633
634[[WMG: Stein is a cyborg.]]
635Stein's experimentation on himself escalated to the point where he began to replace parts of his brain with hyper-advanced machinery of his own invention. This increased his own intelligence and dampened his ability to feel pain. The downside of this was that it increased his already burgeoning madness, prompting him to install the bolt in order to keep his mind clear.
636* Strictly speaking wouldn't the bolt alone qualify him as a cyborg (in so far as it's a mechanic device which is perminently grafted onto his body)?
637** It doesn't even have to be permanent. Eyeglasses qualify you to be a cyborg...so, WMG confirmed.
638
639[[WMG: Taken further, Spirit Albarn (or Death Scythe) is adult Tamaki in the future.]]
640Tamaki graduated from school, became successful, went to the DWMA, married, had Maka, and then divorced. He then went a little bat-shit insane after the break-up, became somewhat of a ladies' man, and changed his hair color. In English, they're both voiced by Vic Mignogna. ...that wouldn't explain the different last names, though.
641* Spirit could be the son of Tamaki and Haruhi. He'd get the red hair from Haruhi's side, Maka's blonde hair comes in from Tamaki, and as for the last name...um...well, he probably changed his surname to Kami's surname when they got married and now refuses to change back even though they're divorced.
642
643[[WMG: Yumi Azusa is really [[WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko Yumi Ishiyama]].]]
644She eventually moved to Death City, and somehow became a weapon and decided to enroll in the DWMA. I mean, look at her. Azusa dresses similar to Ishiyama, the hairstyles are fairly similar.. as for the last name, it could have been her mother's maiden name that she decided to take, and the reason she's called Azusa most of the time is because her father named her Yumi and she now has a grudge against her father like Maka does. She never mentions Lyoko because, well, she has to keep a secret.
645* Because I like these two shows (Code Lyoko and Soul Eater), and as far as I know we don't see Azusa's miester, I'm going to guess that its Ulric Stern(also of Code Lyoko).
646
647[[WMG: Being A Technician, Weapon, or Shinigami can damage the mind]]
648Nearly every Technician or Weapon is mentally unbalanced in some way, ranging from neurosis to downright insanity. Meanwhile Stein is suffering the most from his insanity and is one of the strongest weapon technicians. Coincidence? I think not.
649* Shinigami even comments on how powering current techniques against witches past the current point leads to the Path of the Kishin.
650* Nice point, but if we're to believe Stein's little rant to Medusa, he's always been the way he is. If anything, Spirit has managed to hold him back and this was, according to him, his role as Franken's partner ("I almost forgot...it's my duty to control this crazy kid"). That Shinigami has repeatedly looked to Spirit to keep an eye on Stein would make less sense if working with the Death Scythe was actually worsening Stein's condition. In the process, he could potentially have lost both his strongest Technician and his own Weapon, for we know Stein used Spirit as a test-subject in the past.
651* Maybe it's more of a trade-off with whatever it is that allows Meisters and Weapons to syncronise with each other having the side effect of making them more susceptible to mental problems. There's plenty of real life talents that are linked to various problems in that department (for example the traits that lead to creativity are also linked to problems like Tourettes and bipolar disorder) so it's not that much of a stretch. The exact level of crazy differs from person to person for an assortment of reasons that are not necessarily linked with their occupation.
652* Maybe it's not so much that they're crazy ''because'' they're Meisters or Weapons, but that they're Meisters or Weapons because they're crazy? It certainly doesn't seem like a job someone who's perfectly sane would just pick out for shits and giggles.
653
654[[WMG: Maka is an ideal Kishin candidate; being a Meister/Weapon hybrid.]]
655While Kishin Eggs are simply corrupted souls who fed on Humans, ''the'' Kishin and Crona seem to be that way due to their fusion of Meister and Weapon. The Kishin ate the soul of his weapon, and Crona was created with Ragnarok inside her blood. Soul's experience with controlling the Darkness helps, but also the fact that Maka is the natural daughter of a Meister and a Weapon already gives her a huge advantage.
656* It's doubtful that the show would end on such a down-note of her being the next Kishin, but she may find an alternative path.
657
658[[WMG: Certain aspects of Soul Eater are based on Rush's ''Fear Series''.]]
659No really, go look at Website/TheOtherWiki [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_series page]]. It's not really that crazy. The first song (Part 3) is called Witch Hunting...what part of Soul Eater references that is obvious. Then there's The Weapon (Part 2), and not only does the name make it obvious, but it also the theme of it is somewhat touched upon in the series. Fear (as well as insanity) is used as a weapon against many people in Soul Eater. The Enemy Within (Part 1) deals with fear inside everyone, making us (or the characters) paranoid, worried, afraid and possibly insane. Finally, Freeze (Part 4), describes describes how people take on a fight or flight kind of idea towards fear, which the characters encounter almost constantly throughout the series. Makes sense, right?
660* This would not be surprising, considering the amount of references to American movies and music prevalent in the series.
661
662[[WMG: The cost to the Meister whose Weapon Partner becomes a Death Scythe is their ability to Soul Resonance.]]
663The only Weapon Technician whose partner became a Scythe that is ever talked about is Maka's mother, who mysteriously isn't participating anymore. All of the others are mysteriously partner-less. One would think an accomplishment like that would have her more in the
664limelight.
665* I've always put the absence of Maka's mum down to her practicing Spirit Avoidence. After all, we all know what he's like. It isn't hard to imagine him doing something extraordinarily embarrassing (eg, hanging onto her ankle while begging and pleading) in a bid to get her to take him back. I just figured that she decided to spare herself the hassle and give him a wide berth. Plus I kind of doubt that a partnership would work if one half is monumentally ticked at the other. Don't know about the other Death Scythes though.
666** I always believed that the lack of Meister is a result of the fact that not many Meisters can align their souls to the wavelength of a Death Scythe. (Which, by the way, would fit well with your theory).
667*** Sort of disproven by Chapter 60, where the South American Death Scythe is still working with his Technician (who is a monkey). Also, consider that Justin Law became a Death Scythe without a Technician.
668*** That still leaves Marie and Yumi who are both mysteriously meisterless, although I suppose it could just be that their meisters retired/went on to do something else.
669*** Not so much of a mystery, I think, considering what both went on to do following their introductions. Marie got Stein as a meister, as Spirit went back with Shinigami, and aside from being wielded by Sid on the Brew mission, Yumi's role has been exclusively administrative, gathering information for Shinigami along with filling in as Death Scythe for Oceania (Marie's position). As such, she doesn't need a meister at the moment. If Shibusen's Asia campus (where Yumi was recently shown to be) is anything like the one in Death City, there's bound to be suitable meisters around if Asuza happens to need one.
670*** Completely and utterly jossed, as of 63, Soul is now a Death Scythe; and Maka is becoming a rare kind of Meister called a [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic Grigori]] where her soul has special abilities that can resonate with her Death Scythe (namely flight).
671
672[[WMG: Shinigami-sama could now leave Death City.]]
673He was trapped in the city by a seal he set up to keep Asura trapped in his bag of skin. Except now Asura has left, so there's little reason for Shinigami to keep the seal around.
674* Maybe removing it would damage Death City itself?
675* Discussed in the manga: even though Asura is gone, Shinigami-sama is still "rooted" to Death City - if he wanted to move, Death City itself would have to become mobile.
676** New WMG: Before the end of the series, Death City will become mobile. Because that would be awesome.
677*** Seconded. Given the fact that the RuleOfCool runs rampent in Manga/SoulEater, it might actually happen just because of the awesomness.
678*** No longer an WMG. It's canon as of 47. The City has legs and arms, and Shinigami went to great lengths to squash Baba Yaga castle, which also grew legs (eight of them). The robot ate Kishin Asura. Seriously. It was ridiculously awesome. Or awesomely ridiculous.
679** One of the first mentions of the real Kishin came about when Kid met Nidhogg and asked his father whether the 'Kishin closest to all of us' had something to do with why Shinigami left Death City. Which apparently it did, but when Kid guessed correctly (for once!) Shinigami brushed him off with a figurative, vague answer. Perhaps the in-universe reason Shinigami can't leave Death City even when Asura is free is because he used up his power not just sealing Asura, but when he created Kid in order to depower himself to avoid ending up like the Madness of Terror-person. Would not be the first time one of Shinigami's lessons turned out to lack certain details.
680
681[[WMG: Marie Mjolnir is actually Liz and Patti mother.]]
682She had them when she was young and couldn't take care of them so she left them in Brooklyn.... She acts like an older version of Patti. Pretty light, yes, but possible.
683* Also, it's possible that's the ''real'' reason she wants to get married so badly. Unwed mothers aren't exactly exalted in society.
684* Jossed. Liz and Patti's mother was a prostitute.
685
686[[WMG: Official Shibusen Weapons don't really "eat" souls.]]
687They just store them, and give them to Shinigami-sama to be purified. Thus Maka and Soul gave up their 99 when accidentally taking Blair's "spare" soul. Also when Death the Kidd took out the mummies in the Pyramid, he was forced to give up their souls to Shinigami-sama as "punishment" for damaging the architecture; implying no fusion takes place.
688* Thus the ''99 Kishin Egg Souls and 1 Witch's soul" goal is just a sign that one is ''ready'' to face Shibusen's true enemies; it doesn't actually physically transform one. That's the path of the Kishin.
689** That was what I assumed, but it could be that there is a limit of 99 souls for soul weapons to carry (nature counts in base 10, neh?), and they need to absorb the power of a witches soul while "maxed out." If they get a witch's soul before they have all 99 pre-kishin souls, it has no effect because the weapon can't handle the internal fight for the power when not "full." If it takes in a hundredth non-witch soul, it then loses the souls like the game glitch where too much damage rolls over to very little damage, or has them all confiscated to prevent damage to itself.
690* Might just be there is no true fusion. For example, Ragnarok was trying to become a kishin and was really eating souls. Still he had his confiscated when Crona did her HeelFaceTurn. Also, Ashura/The Kishin's weapon was "eaten", but still inside of him after all this time.
691** After rereading the manga and rereading the bit about the arms race between Witches/Shinigami and the development of the first demon weapon being done by Arachne by sacrificing a fellow witch to help glue a demon of sorts to the first weapon sounds eerily like the 99 souls and a witch soul bit. Tsubaki being descended from a demon weapon also hints that "demon weapons" and "weapons" might only really differ in the motive.
692* Considering in Chapter 77 of the manga, Soul used a new ability directly linked to Arachne's soul, which he ate in order to become a Death Scythe, I doubt that it's storage or just a general requirement to prove you're ready.
693** Chapter 99 has confirmed that weapons need to fuse with souls; humans with weapon forms are still incomplete without a witch's soul to power them up (since their ability to shapeshift into a weapon is based on a witch's ability to shapeshift into an animal).
694
695[[WMG: Soul is the only weapon that LITERALLY eats souls]]
696We've never seen Tsubaki actually eat a soul, and I believe (according to the anime at least) Liz and Patti load the souls into their magazines and then into themselves. This could also mean the 'Eater' part of Soul's name wasn't something he picked, but something everyone else nicknamed him as.
697
698[[WMG: Soul Eater isn't Soul's real first name.]]
699He comes from a wealthy family of musicians, and his brother's name is Wes. Who would name their children [[AerithAndBob "Wes" and "Soul Eater"]]? Especially since it was before he discovered he was a weapon! His family is clearly rather messed up and Soul doesn't talk about them and went to Shibusen to get away from them, so it's not unlikely that he adopted the moniker "Soul Eater" to further distance himself from the Evans family.
700* I figured his name was Soul Evens, two brothers being names Soul and Wes isn't that much of a stetch. I assumed the Eater part was just him entering Shibusen under an ironic false name.
701* The idea the 'Eater' part is a moniker is furthered in chapter 80 - when Maka answers the phone, she mentions 'Eater and Albarn', as though 'Eater' were Soul's last time. Adopting that bit fits with Soul's dislike of his last name, and his previously shown desire to do something independent of his musical background and family which apparently led him to join Shibusen. For a Weapon, it also sounds like the kind of name you'd use for yourself because you thought it sounded 'cool', and Soul wants to be that.
702
703[[WMG:Soul Eater, prior to coming to Shibusen, was a member in a family of wealthy Victorian Kishin worshippers.]]
704Hence his internal landscape has him wearing a suit; surrounded by luxury and a record player. This is also how he knows how to turn Madness into song and dance; and is ''very'' aware of the danger in doing so. His "[[Main/{{delinquents}} dumb thug]]" persona at Death City is an attempt to distance himself from his roots. It's also why he hates his last name, Evans.
705* He may have joined Shibusen for the same reason that Black* Star did...they killed his parents, but found no reason to do so to him as he was just a child so they brought him in.
706** We see his house for a bit, and it looks grandish with all the photos and grand piano. Still, considering Maka was there was it a field trip or just take your daughter to work day if the above statement was true?
707** Jossed in chapter 55; Soul has a flashback where he speaks with his brother, and he muses about how he wanted to get away from his family of musicians. He was tired of being compared to his brother, and so, upon finding out about his ability to turn into a weapon (an apparent recessive gene), he found his opportunity to break away and find his own path in life. While it has been proven that he lived in some grandeur and wealth of sorts, it's suggested his "cool", rebellious personality is how he actually is, as opposed to an upper-class gentleman.
708
709[[WMG: The remaining Death Scythes...]]
710Throwing a couple of semi-serious theories out there regarding the remaining Death Scythes (the Area Heads, we don't officially know how many Death Scythes there are).
711* There are meant to be two European Death Scythes. Perhaps Justin killed the other one for discovering his deception, and Shibusen has yet to hear anything other than he/she simply being out of contact.
712* The lack of response from the African Death Scythes (doesn't seem right for there just to be one) is to do with the experiments Medusa was conducting, discovered by Kirikou's team. They turned up something suspicious and either got killed or otherwise involved. The Death Scythe meeting already turned up some points regarding Justin and the South America pair, perhaps the odd comments about the Death Scythes who didn't attend will also come to something significant.
713* There's another Asia Death Scythe, and they're working with Maka's mother as their meister. Because under the circumstances it makes no sense for someone with as much informed ability as the former Mrs Albarn to be doing nothing useful. If she's not going to be any help to her daughter, she'd better be doing something right.
714** Well, we now know 7/9 of the Death Scythes. Soul, Spirit, Marie, Azusa, Tezca, Justin, and now a Russian guy called Tsar Pushka. [[spoiler: He's currently fighting Chrona to the death.]]
715** We discover the last two Death Mesiters, one is an Arabian one who can turn into a magic lamp while another is a traditional African who can turn into a rainbow-colored axe.
716
717Taking this one step further, might this have something to do with Death being bound to Death City? Heck, what if Death City is ''literally'' Death's soul turned inside-out.
718
719[[WMG: Marie is '''THE''' [[Myth/NorseMythology Mjolnir]]]]
720If Excalibur is any proof, weapons can live a long time (though this is [[UnreliableNarrator Excalibur...]]). Marie is the oldest Death Scythe and Thor was the meister who got her there, eventually gaining enough legend himself to become a god.
721* Though it would be kind of nonsensical, one must also remember her eyepatch… Guess whose dad also wears an eyepatch?
722
723[[WMG: Joe was Marie's first meister]]
724Another of the 'so simple it has to have some truth to it' ones. We at least know of the partners of most of the staff, and also that Marie and Joe had been in a relationship at some point. Perhaps that relationship began when they were in school, and they collected the souls which made Marie a Death Scythe. Then he left because his soul perception made it difficult to be with Marie (and possibly because he worked with Internal Investigations - he remarks its been a while since he's seen Spirit and the other staff). Marie ended up where-ever the Oceania Death Scythe is based with the intention of finding herself a husband and retiring.
725
726[[WMG:Death City is connected to numerous points in the Time/Space Continuum]]
727This is how the setting can go from Victorian London to a Japanese Ninja Village to Main/GangsterLand Brooklyn to a modern-day Suburbia. Main/SanDimasTime prevents Main/TimeTravel from being exploited, though.
728
729[[WMG: What would the Mizune sister's look like all combined, if the one that was killed by Medusa was still alive?]]
730Well, the age of their fused form seems to be affected by how many combine at once. The young-looking one in the Baba Yaga arc took fewer than the one that fought Blair (2 rather than three? I forget how many are left). The last, late sister would by that process make the combined form look older. While on the subject, I wonder if Eruka will eventually tell the rest of the Mizunes that Medusa killed their sister, not Shibusen. They're not, as far as we know, being forced into serving her like Eruka herself. Although, this being Medusa, it's quite reasonable to suppose she has some way of assuring their allegiance.
731
732[[WMG: Kid's "Skull arms" work in the same way as a [[Manga/ElfenLied Diclonius' vectors]].]]
733During his fight with Mosquito, his arm gets chopped off. He reattaches it in a similar fashion as how Nana uses her vectors to control her artificial limbs. A parallel could be drawn between a Diclonius' horns and the Lines of Sanzu (both need to be complete for the "arms" to work). If they are the same, then both can be used in... [[YourHeadAsplode destructive ways]], and that would be [[RuleOfCool AWESOME]]. However, if Elfen Lied is anything to go by, then Kid has a [[BreakTheCutie very bad future]]
734* Shinigami has those 'arms' too, and uses them when threatening to skin Asura a second time. Thanks to the seal upon his soul, they don't reach far enough, but the implication is that those shadowy skull arms can indeed cause destruction.
735* On the Elfen Lied comparison, given how the story has gone about giving Maka and Black Star their power-ups (both suffered before working through whatever challenge others/their behaviour had created), then Kid might end up getting into some nasty trouble before we see a permanent one from him.
736
737[[WMG:Kidd Will Use BREW To Fix The World]]
738Okay, bear with me for a minute. It was stated (anime only) that BREW grants wishes based on the user's will. The greater the will, the more effective the wish. Everyone knows how obsessed Kidd is with symmetry, and way back in the beginning he stated that he wasn't interested in making sure good triumphed so much as balancing good and evil perfectly. At this point, it can be safely said that evil is taking over, and therefore the world is out of balance. Now imagine that Kidd's enormous obsession with symmetry could be applied directly to that imbalance. Whose will could be greater? It would also explain why Kidd is OCD. Shinigami did it deliberately to ensure this very situation.
739* Actually, in Ch 73, it says that [[spoiler: Kid has the Madness of order. symmetry is a from of order, and when he is mad, he realizes that in order for there to be perfect order, there must be no life.]] so as long as he is sane when he uses Brew, everyone should be fine!
740
741[[WMG: The [[spoiler: Great Old One]] is lying]]
742More specifically, it's lying if not about ''everything'' he's said than at least part of it. Even if the 'personifications of madness' thing kind of [[ItMakesSenseInContext makes sense]], it's worth considering that Kid is being lied to. Making it not an answer, but yet another little mind-screw would be...interesting. And Kid's the one looking for answers in a mad world, so some new menace screwing with him would be [[SanitySlippage very]] [[TheCorruption appropriate]].
743* This actually ought to be the ''first'' thing that comes to mind of anybody sufficiently GenreSavvy when it comes to where the Book of Eibon and the [[spoiler: Great Old One]] are almost certainly references to. Anybody who knows their Creator/HPLovecraft or Lovecraftian lore should know ''exactly'' how far to trust an EldritchAbomination found in a mysterious tome of magical lore.
744** And now Okubo seems to have taken away most/all the glorious cracky creepiness surrounding the Goo with the claim that [[spoiler: it posed no real threat to Kid after all, and no longer does the Book]]. Aww, no fair...
745
746[[WMG: "Insanity" is not the same thing as insanity.]]
747In real life, [[InsaneEqualsViolent insanity does not equal violence]], but the "insanity" in Soul Eater clearly causes violence, and is infectious. Therefore, one can presume that "insanity" is simply a word that Shinigami chose to call the infectious force that causes people to become violent. Actual insanity is unrelated.
748** Alternately, normal insanity could be a mild or biological form of insanity while the "Madness" is supernatural.
749** The madness we see in the series is mostly related to Asura, who is the personification of Fear. Other types of madness, like Kid's obsession with symmetry, are not necessarily violent in nature.
750
751[[WMG: The first missions/chapters/episodes were a test]]
752Each group got a test set by Shinigami to see how they would react.
753* Soul and Maka discovered that they needed more than good combat skills to find and defeat a true witch. Their true lack of readiness is emphasised when Maka senses Medusa soul for the first time, after watching Stein and her father curbstomp Crona. Shinigami let Maka and Soul think they were going after a real witch - he has a list of targets - to judge the outcome. To kill two birds with one stone, he pretends confusion when watching the fight with Spirit in order for daddy to learn he has to deal with his daughter being in danger as a meister. Nowadays, Maka utilises her soul perception very regularly, to great effect.
754* Black Star gets presented with his goal in a single mission, and the test is how far he's willing to go to get it. Even Tsubaki points out they might never get an opportunity as good as Angela and Mifune. Unlike Blair, both really are/were targets, but Shinigami used them to give Black Star a challenge beyond trying to beat things up. In the long run, and with lots of development, it seems to have worked.
755* Kid gets what he thinks is the perfect mission, which his dad gives him because it appeals to his aesthetics and skills nominally as good as a three-star meister. We see he can't handle extremes of order and chaos without getting ecstatic/hysterical about it, but the mission ends with him in exactly the same position he started. Like the others, Kid pays the price for his mistake by losing the souls he collected, but it's taking him ''much'' longer than the others to get beyond his initial...issues. But he seems to have a thoroughly ''nasty'' [[AnthropomorphicPersonification justification]] for them, even if [[spoiler: the GOO is lying, the order/death business with the Sanzu Lines and recent flashback with Shinigami still hold.]]
756
757[[WMG: Tezca Tlipoca's cloning/illusion ability]]
758Since we know virtually nothing about Tezca, and he's a mirror, it can possibly be assumed that he has some sort of reflection/illusion ability. Mostly backed up by a not-really-used-at-all Death Scythe being killed off in this way being sort of ridiculous. It's ''really'' jarring that somebody referred to as Shibusen's best tracker wouldn't take any precautions for the possibility of there being booby traps and just walk in unprotected in every way.
759
760[[WMG: Sid's zombification is a ChekhovsGun.]]
761Same troper again. Anyway, I've always wondered why Sid ended up becoming a zombie. Stein doing it ForTheLulz And ForScience worked back when MadScientist was pretty much all we knew about him but [[CharacterDevelopment as of late]], I no longer buy that. I don't doubt that he ''would'' turn Sid into a zombie [[ItWasHisSled for obvious reasons]] but these days, that "why" is looking really flimsy. Unless this is just a case of CharacterizationMarchesOn.
762** Soul Eater NOT actually gives an answer to this. Sid was murdered by a Witch, and Stein brought him back for the science.
763
764[[WMG: We will see what 'Order' is like...]]
765When it's not split between Kid and Shinigami. If I understand the GOO's claims correctly, then Shinigami created Kid to prevent him ending up like Asura. Kid clearly got Shinigami's more direct and...fervent order-enforcing tendencies in a form too young and weak to cause too much damage yet. The result was that Shinigami turned into the CloudCuckoolander everyone knows and loves/fears or at least are wary of (he told Asura it was to recruit kids so that Kid wouldn't be targeted). But because of this clear division between [[PhysicalGod power]] and [[AnthropomorphicPersonification purpose]] both 'halves' of Death are at a disadvantage should they encounter of their own kind (GOO was only playing with Kid, Shinigami's not as good as he could be/was when he was more Super OCPD (or whatever fandom's calling it post-GOO)). At some point we will either see more of what Shinigami was like before he created Kid (i.e both the power of a Eldritch Abomination and driven to make 'order'), or (admittedly less likely) we'll see re-connection from Kid's point of view, and he will take on the original form of the madness of order. Which would be a shame to some extent because a) no Shinigami-sama and b)Kid should technically be different too if he takes on bits of his father's personality.
766
767[[WMG: The Table of Contents is Excalibur's long lost twin brother.. thing.]]
768Excalibur the sword apparently had a twin called Clarent, which was a sword of peace rather than war, which was stolen and used by Mordred to kill king Arthur. [=ToC=] could be that sword, which was stolen and sealed inside Eibon's book to become the table of contents there.]]
769
770[[WMG: Tim Burton will discover Soul Eater, fall in love with it, and make a movie.]]
771It already looks like it could have been made by Tim Burton. A Burton-produced Soul Eater film could be the best anime movie adaption of all time. Johnny Depp as Stein? I'd bet on it.
772* DO WANT!
773* Scratch that. Johnny Depp being Stein would be INEVITABLE. He'd be really good with the role, too, especially with handling the whole madness thing. I can imagine Lord Death would be CG. Please, Burton. Discover what you were destined to adapt!
774* OH GOD. I'LL DIE IF THIS MOVIE ISN'T MADE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
775** I could also see Leon Thomas playing Killik. An actor for Justin Law is right at the tip of my mind but I can't think of who it is. Same with Mifune.
776** Helena Bonham Carter will play either one of the two main villainesses!
777* Who will play Soul Eater then?
778* I support this idea (Helena Bonham Carter ''has'' to play Medusa), and since the series has a primarily western setting, Americanization won't be a problem. The ''real'' problem I can see with this is how they'll find an actor or actress [[AmbiguousGender androgynous enough]] to play Crona (of course it would probably work if they got [[CreepyChild a little kid]] to play the role).
779
780[[WMG: The main cast will harness the madness of The Great Old Ones.]]
781* Kid has already come into contact with the madness of "Law," fitting his fetish for symmetry and leading to his want for nothingness.
782* Black Star will soon come into contact with the madness of "Power," following in the footsteps of his father and leading to senseless strength.
783* Crona will come into contact with the madness of "Terror," reverting to his/her state of mind before his/her HeelFaceTurn, in which he/she destroys what he/she fears or is terrified by.
784* Maka will come into contact with the madness of either "Knowledge," or "Rage," both of which represent aspects of her personality.
785** This is getting [[spoiler: closer and closer to being confirmed...]]
786
787[[WMG: Soul Eater will recieve an updated rerelease a la [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]].]]
788* DO WANT. If this happens, I hope they'll do a small arc based off [[spoiler: The plot in the manga where Kim's secret is revealed and she escapes with Jacqueline to Arachnophobia and are brainwashed, with Ox and co. going to get them back.]]
789** Actually, [[Tropers/{{Alexandra}} me]] and a friend of mine that is also a fan of [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist FMA]] and Manga/SoulEater have been talking about this since ages. We're hoping for a [[TheMovie Soul Eater: Conqueror of Shibusen]] and a while after that a Soul Eater: Meisterhood.
790** Now, what about Soul Eater: Meisterhood: The Movie?
791
792[[WMG: Little Demon is a symbol of Soul's father.]]
793We don't know much about Soul's family, but his father very well could have had overly high expectations of him as a child, like making him play the piano and stuff like that. He might have also possibly abused Soul, and now Little Demon is his way of remembering his father.]]
794
795[[WMG: The Anime will one day begin airing again]]
796And will use the AllJustADream theory to [[ResetButton reset]] the story from where the anime really began to diverge, rather than just the fight with Asura. Maka (or one of the other main characters) will be snapped out a madness induced hallucination. The character will rapidly forget what they saw in the dream and the story will continue on without any further mention of the GeckoEnding as an [[AuthorsSavingThrow Animation Studio's Saving Throw]].
797** Really, another Dallas? Also, based on certain fates of various characters in both mediums, this would create a few heartbreaking examples of Harsher in Hindsight.
798
799[[WMG: Black*Star is the Hero!]]
800Of the Salvage arc, that is, and deliberately so. In a different kind of series, Black Star's Hot Blooded Idiot Hero-ness would undoubtedly make him the protagonist. Being set up as the only one to save a Brainwashed and Crazy Kid in a straight-up Defeat Means Friendship battle allowed him to be just that. There was no sympathetic Anti Villain to give unusual ambiguity in a shounen, no beleaguered Tykebomb whose own 'salvage' is looking increasingly unlikely. Black Star got to cement his Character Development while taking the stage in the role he always wanted, leaving everyone else in the dust (NB their fight specifically, Noah was more a group effort?).
801
802The fight between Black Star and Death the Kid put together the Hero and the Rival. There was talk of good, evil, and pithy speeches on purpose which were oddly long for this series' style of action. It was set up as being a climactic battle whilst patently being anything but, devoid of anything close to the significance one would expect in such a scenario. Nothing in Okubo's previous depiction of Kid and Black Star made this confrontation feel tense or even relevant, something which this kind of fight sure relies on for emotional impact (both in sympathy and rule of cool). And, more importantly SE's usual twisted approach to shounen was largely absent. Okubo pulls some crazy stuff recently, but this stuck out for being especially pedestrian.
803
804It read like a plain action sequence in a series which rarely fails to add ''something'' out of the ordinary to every single fight, be it a surprise ending (Mifune), a nod to backstory/foreshadowing (Mosquito), or the 'mundane' importance of Soul and Maka's memories (why get your powerups from righteous goodness when you get can it from...violin music or your BFF?).
805
806My theory on why Black Star vs Kid/GOO pulled out so many obvious shounen tropes? Okubo cast him as the Hero and wrote the chapters accordingly. Unlikely - most likely he ''did'' just fumble the 'dramatic final battle' thing - but it just seemed ''too'' shounen to be true.
807
808[[WMG: In the Anime, it wasn't just a punch that beat Kishin, but a LogicBomb ]]
809The discussion leading up to the punch was Maka trying to explain to Kishin just what courage meant. When she, completely without power, struck him without fear, he finally comprehended what courage was. For a god of fear and paranoia to comprehend courage is anethema to his very concept, and that is what killed him.
810
811[[WMG: Kid was wrong about Death Scythes not being susceptible to madness]]
812His dismissal of Spirit's suggestion as 'nonsense' was unfounded, especially when Kid himself said he didn't know Tezca and we've not seen him interact with many Death Scythes or have any understanding of what they're capable of. Simply saying it's 'nonsense' without justifying it sounds too optimistic and impulsive; he simply doesn't want it to be true. Justin's fate, even if it is put down to his 'faith', suggests that being a Death Scythe alone isn't enough to resist madness. Moreover, Stein and Azusa's original estimate back in chapter 27 ('Daily Life') made it clear that potentially ''everyone'' is at risk - the only difference is how long it takes. Spirit remains silent because he knows Kid is wrong, but won't say anything because the alternative is so very bad (Death Scythes include Spartoi's friends, teachers, and parents) and he doesn't want to put Kid off or upset him.
813
814[[WMG: Shinigami and the Sanzu Lines]]
815Kid's attack against Noah (in flashy lights and big letters) indicates that he is aware that the Sanzu Lines draw upon his father's power, and that he cannot always rely upon it. So far there has been no suggestion that he understands what the activation sequences do from Shinigami's point of view. Fanon holds that they are a bad thing, based on Shinigami's reaction - first time, he collapses, second time his mask cracks - and Spirit's response of miserable silence on both occasions. The first time came as such a shock that even Kid didn't seem to understand it completely, and so it would be likely he didn't realise what it did to Shinigami. The second time, with Noah, Kid is very much in control and knows what he's doing with this 'killing intent', even apologising to Liz and Patti for the trouble of acting in such a way. Kid is hardly without empathy, so it seems very unlikely that he knows his Sanzu Lines are doing Shinigami harm and yet is not at all bothered by it. Either fanon is mistaken, or Kid is still underestimating what coming into his true Shinigami powers actually involves.
816
817[[WMG: The entire ''thing'' is the game of bunch of Cosmic Horrors]]
818Who have made playthings out of humans and witches, and created a few more - the Demon Weapons - to join it.
819
820* Shinigami's pieces are Kid (a smaller, alternative version of himself) and the humans and Weapons he trained.
821* Asura pieces are Medusa and Justin, but being 'Terror' he didn't want them and Medusa at least is trying to use ''him'', not vice-versa. But the Great Old Ones being what they are, even the manipulator has been corrupted and may yet find herself out of her depth with her own alternative version, Crona. 'Control' madness? The best she could hope for would be to let Crona loose and hope 'they' can be prodded in the right direction. Perhaps she is relying on Crona retaining some sanity - that resistance which prevented them becoming a Kishin before their debut - because so long as Crona's is aware they 'rely' on and fear Medusa, they will do whatever she asks. Making them completely insane, and so out of control, would presumably lose that aspect.
822* Eibon influenced Arachne and like Asura he's had a massive effect without even turning up; she was able to create the Demon Weapons who are now being used/affected by his fellow Cosmic people Shinigami and Asura. Index, whatever it is, originally agreed with Eibon's intention of gaining knowledge, but is now going one step further than Arachne. She used what Eibon discovered - Index would teach it to others.
823* The GOO itself, Power, clearly found a follower in Black Star and the fact it can go either way - a mindless void or purposeful application of power - both reflects what Black Star found in Nakatsukasa and indicates that the Great Old Ones can function without ending up like Asura or, 79 suggests, Eibon. Unfortunately, to do it you either need to split up your soul (Death/Kid) or seal yourself away from the world.
824
825Naturally, the plucky kids will win this game, but it's interesting to look at the goings-on from a 'Cosmic' perspective now this whole Great Old One deal has been expanded on.
826
827[[WMG: Soul's real name is Salieri Evans.]]
828It's been mentioned that Soul is jealous of his brother Wes' superior musical talent, so having his real name be Salieri would be a good MeaningfulName (according to a popular urban legend, the composer Antonio Salieri was jealous of Mozart). Also before he went to the academy he could have shortened it to just Sal, and changed it to Soul apon entering the DWMA since it sounds similar to Sal (in a way) and because he wanted to seperate himself from his family. The Eater part of his name was added on after he started to make a habit of actually eating souls.
829
830[[WMG: The Uncanny Sword is the first weapon that was created by Arachne.]]
831It's been mentioned that Tsubaki's clan are direct descendants of the first weapon created by Arachne, and we know that all of Tsubaki's weapon forms were passed down to her due to the fact that she was the heir. However the Uncanny Sword despite its power was instead passed down to Tsubaki's brother. So it's possible that the sword was the weapon created by Arachne, and because of its origins the clan considered the sword to be too evil for their future leader to possess as one of her forms. But not wanting the sword to fall into the wrong hands they decided to give it to Tsubaki's brother instead (of course certain circumstances made it so that Tsubaki ended up inheriting the form of the Uncanny Sword as well).
832* The Nakatsukasas being descended from Arachne's experiments is confirmed by Mosquito when he sees Black Star fight Mifune.
833
834[[WMG: Maka's issues in 'Salvage' were to do with her understanding of Soul]]
835Which she will ultimately solve, but it will come at a price. Remember that she only other character with soul perception as advanced as hers was Joe. ''His'' turned him into a Living Lie Detector, a skill so great that he left his girlfriend (possibly Weapon at the time?) Marie. Maka has already shown in the Baba Yaga arc that she shares Joe's ability to see through Soul Protect, so it's not unreasonable to think lie-detection is on the cards. Given how important interaction and understanding is shown to be in the series, it would be ironic for Maka - who is otherwise an exemplary meister - to 'solve' her relationship with Soul not through shared experiences, or feelings, or hobbies (music was the Book's take on it) but through reading the guy's mind. That would be [[BlessedWithSuck fairly horrible]]. And amusing in [[SuperpowerLottery context]], but mostly horrible.
836
837[[WMG: Stein is Maka's Godfather.]]
838Just throwing it out there.
839* That's cute. I'm adopting that as fanon. Seems the sort of thing Spirit would do, because it's clear he likes Stein really.
840* And now, [[spoiler:[[{{Shipping}} Stein and Marie]] [[{{Squee}} are having a baby!]] Maybe Stein will make Spirit his kid's godfather?]]
841
842[[WMG: The series takes place in the same universe as Creator/StephenKing's novels.]]
843And Pennywise is a variation of the clown.
844
845[[WMG: There are three other personifications of madness besides the five we already know.]]
846There were eight powerful warriors, but only five of them were confirmed to be madness personifications so my guess is that the other three who were eaten by Asura were also personifications of madness.
847
848[[WMG: The DWMA will form an EnemyMine with the witch's asembly against Asura.]]
849My only reasoning for this is that I think it would be awesome.
850* Nice possibility. If we take the problem (one of them) with Kid's insanity in Salvage being that 'nothingness' doesn't allow for symmetry or order, then surely the witches - who thrive on madness simply in a different way to the protagonists - would see the problem of things like Asura overwhelming the current balance of power in the world. Same might go for countering Medusa, because she was persona non grata for the Assembly very early on, and possessing Arachne may not be viewed well, even if she ''was'' 'The Heretic'.
851
852[[WMG: The Black Blood is coffee!]]
853[[http://www.funraniumlabs.com/the-black-blood-of-the-earth/ Behold this link]]! It's thick and black, too much makes you crazy and I know a few people who probably bleed it.
854* From now on, this is my fanon.
855
856[[WMG:The Series Big Bad]]
857I believe the BigBad of Soul Eater will turn out to be Crona. My guess is that Crona's madness will peak and Ragnarok [[LaserGuidedKarma will eat Medusa]], becoming a Kishin version of a Death Scythe or Ragnarok will eat the current Kishin Asura and become even stronger. I also have theory that Crona and Ragnarok's soul will perfect mix together and they will become one, likely bipolar, entity of pure madness. Say hello to Ragnarokrona(I need to think of a better name).
858* Or if not the Big Bad, there has to be something in the notion of Medusa's plans for Crona backfiring spectacularly. Afterall, she's meddling in the 'realm of the gods' or whatever Kid and Mosquito called it, and all the stuff she's managed so far is related to what Shinigami and his ilk personify. Magical, second-hand versions, and as such incomplete and imperfect. As soon as Medusa gets what she supposedly wants - Crona as a psuedo-kishin - it's going to kill her. Mind you, you'd [[FridgeLogic think]] Medusa would have accounted for the fact that the closer Crona gets to being something like Asura the less influence she's going to have over the child, much less the power to restrain Crona?
859** As of Chapter 87, [[spoiler: Crona has killed Medusa, but judging by Medusa's last words, this was all part of her plan to make Crona a Kishin.]]
860* Also, it seems that Medusa's plan had Black Blood, the resurrection of the Kishin and Crona, all related from the begining as seen when the Kishin is affected by Crona becoming more powerful due to both having Black Blood. Is possible that Crona was created especifically to absorb the Kishin.
861
862[[WMG: Maka's mother is the series' Big Bad]]
863What? It's not like we've seen her...
864
865[[WMG: The original witch was the madness of destruction]]
866The witches have mentioned how they have an uncontrolable desire to destroy (except Kim) which seems rather like Kid's instinctive desire for "order". If this is true, we would have already met the madness of law (Shinigami-sama), the madness of power (GOO), the madness of knowledge (Eibon), the madness of fear (Ashura) and the madness of destruction. Also, it would put a new spin in Arachne's plan of becoming madness.
867* Both the heroes and the antagonists have an association with at least one of the 'Madness' beings, and most we've been introduced to overlap. Having witches in general included in this would be appropriate. It would also further indicate that in his well-intentioned extremism Shinigami is at odds with his fellow Anthropomorphic Personifications if not directly, than in spirit. We even see elements of 'order' in the fact the Witches Assembly are willing to act cautiously as a group in order to protect themselves from Shibusen, whereas the two Gorgons were ostracised from the Assembly for acting individually and meddling with other Great Old Ones.
868
869[[WMG: Ragnarok hates Medusa as much as Chrona]]
870He's just too afraid to admit it. Considering she melted him into black blood and stuck him in Chrona's body, it's easy to see why. After being stuck in someone else's body for all those years (and probably associating the resentment toward Medusa with her child), he turned out a {{Jerkass}}. He may have planned on becoming a kishin and then [[TheDogBitesBack settling the score with Medusa]], but Maka kind of [[NiceJobBreakingItHero ruined that plan]]. Luckily, he gets better.
871
872[[WMG: Chrona and Ragnarok are VitriolicBestBuds]]
873[[BullyAndWimpPairing Their]] [[RedOniBlueOni personalities]] [[SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan clash]] a lot, and neither is happy about being in the state they're in, but deep down, [[CantStandThemCantLiveWithoutThem they really do like each other]]. After all, how else would they resonate?
874* Alternatively, they resonate because Ragnarok wants the souls Medusa sends them after, and she terrifies Crona into going along with it. Although without ''some'' understanding they wouldn't function at all. When they get ''really'' at odds with one another we get the kind of rejection we see after they're curbstomped by Stein. A kind of body horror played for laughs. Stein is an example of a meister who doesn't need friendship to wield a Weapon, just an interest in it.
875* Not to mention, if you pay close attention to them when they fight, it sounds like Ragnarok is trying to keep Chrona's head in the game, so to speak. Sure, he can be a real [[{{Jerkass}} ass]] about it, but in the manga I noticed Ragnarok was sort of prodding Chrona along. Plus, in the anime, it seems like they have moments where one (usually Rag) is just being [[{{Jerkass}} himself]] while Chrona's trying to be cordial enough to keep them from disconnecting. (really, how many people calmly tell someone that they can write a poem together after being called a dumbass? Then again, this is ''[[ShrinkingViolet Chrona]]'' we're talking about, so this might be considered typical of him/hir).
876* Another alternative is that Ragnarok is trying to be a [[{StealthMentor}} Stealth Mentor]] to Crona. Originally, he uses a prodding carrotless-stick method of coaching Crona into better battle performance(this being something Crona is used to, and thus something, perhaps the only thing that Crona DOES know how to deal with), in order to please Medusa, which is Crona's goal. Later, after Crona's FaceHeelTurn, Ragnarok instagates (or trys to) a SlapSlapKiss relationship between Crona and Maka, whom Crona seems to have feelings for. He thus acts as the aggressive Id to Crona's passive Superego. He later protects Maka from Grinko (after extorting an unlimited amount of candy from her). While this seems self-centered (and may partial be so) it also demonstrates to Crona that he is not useless, and can be of value to Maka and Crona's other friends, in an attempt to negate the feelings of worthlessness Crona recieved from Medusa.
877
878[[WMG: Shinigami knew Stein was experimenting on Spirit]]
879But because it gave the kid an outlet for his...unorthodox habits without actively killing anyone, he let it go on. When Spirit exclaims during the Medusa fight that it was his job to "control the crazy kid", he meant it. He's worked with Stein, and has good soul wavelength control.
880
881Between Spirit's skill and concern for Stein, and Stein using his Weapon as a test subject, [[GoodIsNotNice Shinigami]] could keep a handle on a very effective meister who could cause untold damage if he ended up taking his abilities and intellect elsewhere.
882
883Thus, Spirit was something of a Morality Chain for Stein, and as such was not as effective in dealing with him as Marie has been, simply because she accepted him rather than tried to actively hold him back by taking him to task for breaking the rules.
884
885Spirit knows what Shinigami needed him for, and what it meant for him, but he doesn't like to think of it like that. So perhaps he ignored the scars he 'didn't remember getting' until someone else pointed them out.
886* Could be even nastier in light of ch108: [[spoiler: if Shinigami is willing to create Asura and Kid, then simply allowing a human to take on a fellow student as a guinea-pig for various experiments would be nothing.]]
887
888[[WMG: Black Star's mother appears on screen]]
889Very briefly in episode ten, along with the rest of Star Clan. That's her in the head scarf.
890
891[[WMG: Any boyish/masculine traits that Chrona originally had were taken by Ragnarok]]
892[[ItAmusedMe It sounded funny, that's why]].
893
894[[WMG: Chrona's gender will finally be revealed when someone Divides By Zero]]
895And then the world will explode.
896
897[[WMG: Excalibur and Ragnarok are actually related]]
898I know it sounds random, but hear me out. First of all, the two of them are both [[InfinityPlusOneSword extremely powerful swords]], and both are also notorious {{Jerkass}}es. Plus, neither of them really looks human. Also, they may be at least {{Shadow Archetype}}s of each other (or [[EvilCounterpart something]] [[PolarOppositeTwins like]] [[{{Foil}} that]]); Excalibur is white, Ragnarok is black; Exalibur ''and'' Ragnarok can [[PowerGivesYouWings give their users/meisters wings]] (Excalibur did it twice with Hiro and [[spoiler: Liz]], and Ragnarok has been shown doing this with Chrona). Also, the two of them are both "stuck" in one place: Excalibur is stuck in his cave waiting for someone who's willing to put up with him, and Ragnarok is stuck inside Chrona as his/her blood.
899* Excalibur mentions that once he was in love with a woman, but she left him...Ragnarok may be their son!
900->'''Excalibur:''' [[LukeIAmYourFather I am your father]].\
901'''Ragnarok:''' [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOH]]!\
902'''Excalibur:''' Fool!
903
904[[WMG: Black*Star's last name is...]]
905[[Manga/{{Naruto}} Uzumaki]]! Well, ''duh!'' [[ItAmusedMe Well, why not, right?]]
906* His last name is more likely to be "Barret", as he was adopted by Sid Barret. Also, I think that Black*Star is just a CodeName, since we already know Soul Eater is Evans' codename.
907
908[[WMG: When Noah is gone for good it will get worse.]]
909Noah will die multiple times as he works through the chapters of the book. When he reaches the end it will let out the [[EldritchAbomination Great Old One.]]
910
911[[WMG: If Stein was capable of crossing over into other anime, no one would ever die.]]
912Look at what he did for Soul and Crona, the latter of whom was ''impaled''. Evidently, the man is a miracle worker. All it takes is a single IV line and whatever-he's-doing-between-scenes and we wouldn't have lost [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina.]]
913* Whilst what he did for Soul was cool, the guy wasn't in the best of states for a while afterwards. And Crona not only has black blood, but Marie and her healing wavelength were present.
914* It should also be noted that an intervention of a professional medic in a proper facility would probably save many lost anime lives, even if that medic would not be as extraordinary as Dr. Stein.
915
916[[WMG: There's a reason why Crona's [[AmbiguousGender gender is ambiguous]]]]
917Because s/he is a MoeAnthropomorphism of pure {{woobie}}hood! Really, you don't get much more {{Woobie}} than Crona. And TheWoobie is neither male nor female, as gender doesn't matter if the important part is that this character evokes sympathy from you. It's a trope that disregards gender, so it's only natural that the walking incarnation of this trope [[AmbiguousGender doesn't quite have a specific one]].
918
919[[WMG: Medusa was planning on Having [[GuineaPigFamily another child]]]]
920Which might be why she was damn-near ''seducing'' Stein, even in the body of a little girl. Hopefully, she was planning on [[spoiler: switching to Arachne's body first]], if only to make it less {{squick}}y, but it's possible she was trying to conceive another child on whom to experiment. Especially considering how Chrona had made a HeelFaceTurn, she most likely caught on to his[[note]]And using "he" is just out of [[PronounTrouble convenience, as I'm already aware that]] [[AmbiguousGender Chrona has no established gender]][[/note]] becoming [[ThePowerOfFriendship really attached to Maka and the others]], and, [[CrazyPrepared out of necessity for proper "backup"]], planned accordingly.
921
922[[WMG: Kid is asexual]]
923Kid's mother has never been mentioned, and there's already theories that Shinigami-sama is asexual himself. But to add onto that, we never see Kid's female form. He doesn't even really go through the chapters of Eibon, he just goes into his little pit of madness almost immediately. Unlike most of the other members of Spartoi, most notably Soul & Maka, Black*Star & Tsubaki, and Kim & Ox, Kid doesn't have the least bit of romantic tension with anyone [[spoiler:I think Kilik's female form was meant to be like Jackie's in a PairTheSpares Pair the Spares kind of way]], nor does he seem the least bit interested in boys or girls.
924
925Kid does have the Madness of Order, and no one who's insane seems to really be capable of love [[spoiler: Nygus did say that Stein wasn't capable of love, Stein told Medusa himself that people like him and her were incapable of love, and with the anime exception Arachne doesn't seem very loving either]].
926* Asexuality is a lack of ''sexual'' desire, not 'love' in broader emotional sense, which is what you're also referring to. Kid lacking any current romantic tension with any of the cast doesn't mean he lacks the emotional capacity to possess it at some point; he's young, he's not generally the over-emotional sort (barring the obvious triggers and unusual situations), so his lack of interest in anyone in an romantic or sexual sense can't really be taken to be any indication of his sexuality.
927* Medusa is a Complete Monster and manipulator who would and does say anything to get what she wants, so her claims are suspect. Stein ''claims'' to agree with her, and indeed his colleagues are suspicious of his behaviour, but they also support him in his bid to [[ClearMyName clear his name]] and Stein's obstinate Heroic Willpower and use of the Power of Friendship (he tells Spirit that, essentially, that's why he's not giving in to the Madness) show that whatever his stance of sexual desire (again, what 'asexual' refers to) he ''is'' capable of caring about others.
928
929[[WMG: A Death Scythe's power comes from madness]]
930The requirements for turning a weapon into a Death Scythe is 99 Kishin Egg souls and 1 witches soul, both souls are influenced by madness and it has been shown numerous times that power comes from madness(It is the main reason humans become Kishin in the first place.). Also if the wasn't influence from madness, then there wouldn't a need for a strict number of souls required to become a Death Scythe.
931
932[[WMG: A weapon receives unique abilities upon becoming Death Scythe]]
933A weapon steals the abilities of the witch, who's soul they have eaten. I forget which chapter, but I remember a chapter where [[spoiler: Soul uses Arachne's webs attached to his piano]], so is it really a stretch to say other Death Scythes can't do the same?
934* I always thought that the Death Scythes' all had basic powers, like form manipulation, plus specific powers [[spoiler: like Soul using Arachne's webs]] that they gain from eating a witch's soul.
935
936[[WMG: Index is a fragment of Eibon]]
937Just like how Kid is a described as a fragment of shinigami by the Black Mass, Index was created by/from Eibon. The way Index phrases this makes it seem sort of possible--he has the same basic ideals as Eibon, but wants to express them differently, which is very similar to how Kid feels in regards to Shinigami's principles.
938
939[[WMG: Soul x Maka is Canon]]
940Chapter 69 is titled "Love Triangle", which doesn't make any sense since this is a NoHuggingNoKissing manga. However, Maka is clearly jealous when Soul gets love letters/partner requests, and when he comments that she doesn't get any because she lacks sex appeal, she says to him
941--> In other words, all guys need is breasts and asses that are like whipped pudding!
942Female!Soul says basically the same thing to male!Maka in the Book of Eibon's first chapter (Lust) when she gets a nosebleed at the Succubus, who functions in that chapter as Blair's counterpart.
943Also, the Chapter of Lust also makes them look (and act?) the way the person they'd be most attracted to would. Like Soul, male!Maka is moody, quiet, and has spiky hair (s/he's dressed formally, but so is Soul when in his soul's room); Like Maka, female!Soul is bossy, cynical toward men, and flat-chested (that and female!Soul yells at male!Maka, when usually Maka is the one yelling at Soul).
944* Also, the Envy chapter reveals that Maka is jealous of other girls who can connect with Soul in places she can't (music), that she spent hours reading every book she could find about music to try and understand it, and that she worries that he'd be better with another female meister. That's definitely not something you feel for a brother or [[PlatonicLifePartners Platonic Life Partner]].
945
946[[WMG: Crona x Maka is Canon]]
947[[AmbiguousGender After all, you don’t need a gender to have love.]] They both clearly care a lot about each other (a point emphasized in the anime but also is reflected in the manga) and despite how short of a time Crona was with Maka, this doesn’t stop her from always thinking about Crona and risking her life numerous times to find hir.
948
949* Maka forgives Crona easily for what zhe did to Soul despite later saying that she would never forgive Medusa for what she did to Crona.
950** And Medusa uses this to her advantage by giving Maka no other choice than for them to team up to save Crona. Later when this is revealed to be a lie, the two of them have this little exchange.
951--> Maka: "Where is Crona?!"
952--> Medusa: "Give it up. The Crona you know no longer exists... I have no intention of surrendering my child to you."
953--> Maka: "Why you..! What's that supposed to mean?!!"
954--> *Medusa leaves and Maka is clearly upset over what happened and her failure at finding Crona*
955* Although eariler, when Maka found out that Crona still had connections with Medusa, she was confused at what she was supposed to do. She knew she couldn't turn hir in because she was scared for thier safety.
956--> "But if I tell Shinigami-sama and the others... will Crona be expelled? There might be an even worse punishment in store..."
957** And when Crona found out that Maka had seen hir, they too were upset and became eeriely quiet. Its possible that the revelation that Maka had seen hir was what ultimately caused Crona to leave.
958* When Crona loses hir memories, its clear that they don't remember ANYONE. That was until Black Star mentioned Maka and right after that, Crona began to start mentioning Shibusen and the other students BY NAME. But the moment zhe rejects Black Star's comment about Maka and rejects that zhe knows Maka, they forget everything.
959** This point comes up again later when Crona remembers Maka again in chapter 83, but it didn't take anyone mentioning Maka. It was hir own flashback then and it seemed to calm Crona down for a moment... until zhe rejected the memory and used Mad Blood.
960*** And it comes up once more in chapter 87 when Crona remembers Maka as [[spoiler: zhe is killing Medusa.]] This moment can even be cited as a 'love confession' or them explaining how Maka felt about hir.
961--> "But that's unfair mother.. Because you made me throw away the only one who ever loved me."
962* It should also be noted that after Crona disappeared and Maka realized that Medusa had lied to her, she never stopped thinking about Crona nor searching for hir. This leads to a long Cat and Mouse race with Crona ending up somewhere and Maka trying to follow behind. Russia is a good topic there. Maka had been so surprised to hear of Crona's whereabouts and had hurried over to Russia.
963** When she found the Black Blood spheres, she was visably distressed by them. It proved that Crona was on the path to become a Kishin again and she began to cry. When later she got word of Crona in Ukraine, she hurried over there, not once looking back.
964*** Granted, we don't know what happened after that thanks to the skip in chapter 88. (Hopefully a flashback would be seen next time.)
965** Not necessarily true; Maka never lets herself be distracted from the mission at hand. Crona isn't the only thing on her mind. Crona saying that Maka is 'the only one who ever loved [hir]' is Crona's interpretation and does not necessarily mean that either one is in love with the other. It's heavily implied that those who are insane can't comprehend or feel love. Maka is overprotective of Crona, but she wouldn't act any differently if it were Soul or even Tsubaki who went missing. She's a very loyal friend.
966*** Maka would never get herself distracted from a mission, but there's no denying she wasn't thinking of Crona. It's very true that any of them would do the same for each other, but it seems that Crona is Maka's main focus, as the others relay finding Crona or the mentions of Crona as Maka's friend or how zhe hurt Maka by leaving. As for the insane unable to comprehend love, it doesn't mean they can't feel love. As Stein shows in Chapter 40 when comforting Marie, and in Episode 48, [[spoiler: Asura kills Arachne because of his love for her]] and Asura didn't want to be weak like he had just defined Lord Death as. They can feel love, they just react differently. This is why I think Crona's speech [[spoiler: while killing Medusa]] in Chapter 87 seemed odd at first, I think it shows the disconnect of Maka and the one zhe loves in a subconscious effort to protect her from when zhe may turn into a kishin.
967-->"And yet that's unfair, Mother... Because you made me throw away the only one who loved me. You're fucking kidding me; I'm the only one who lives with an old bat like you. I threw away even Maka.
968*** ...and after Soul was attacked by Crona, all Maka thought about was Soul. I just don't find her obsession with Crona that much different. In truth, I think both are canon. She loves all of her friends, but shows it in different ways. She just can't treat Crona the same way she treats Soul or Black*Star because Crona's already been abused enough. She can't even hit Ragnarok without him having a panic attack.
969* But in chapter 88, Maka is distressed by the news she gets. [[spoiler: Crona had ended up on Shinigami-sama's list and had to be excuted by HER and Spartoi.]]
970* The Lust chapter of the Book of Eibon has been stated to make the person who is in it look and act like who they are attracted to. Maka is listed as a 'Solemn looking young man' and the others make a point to say she hasn't changed at all and is still as feminine as ever. She appears to have grown in height as well (Her arms and legs are longer too giving her the look of being a lot skinnier). Her attitude is very quiet and moody and she never smiles once when she has that personality. Such can be seen as quite like Crona...
971** Soul is also very quiet and moody, especially in comparison to Black*Star and even Kid. He hardly ever smiles, except around Maka. Her relationship with Soul is very clearly reversed in this chapter; she is usually yelling at soul while he remains quiet and moody, often mocking her as she criticizes him. Here, female!Soul chastises Maka while male!Maka simply sits there and comments on how creepy girl!Soul is. Maka also very clearly is a boy in the lust chapter...her gender in that chapter is not ambiguous. And by not having changed at all, they were merely mocking her for being flat. Maka looked angry, Crona usually looks depressed.
972*** Actually, look up the word [[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moody moody]] before you say it's different. I thought it would be quite obvious that Crona is moody, and s/he is most definitely a solemn person. Google is your friend when looking up information. [[AppearanceIsInTheEyeOfTheBeholder Ambiguity may be in the eyes of the beholder,]] as it seemed to me that the joke of her not changing in appearance hinted at it, though I didn't take note of it until you just mentioned it. Though that isn't even a point I'd make about Maka being attracted to Crona, as ambiguity most likely wouldn't be a deciding factor on who you are attracted to. As for Soul, he didn't very much look like Maka or act like her except for when he mocked her, and Maka saying it's creepy doesn't really fit with Soul's temperament either. Just because they were in the forms of what they are attracted to doesn't mean that they didn't act like they usually would, as Soul usually does mock Maka, hence the comment on how it's creepy when he's a girl.
973*** Everyone is going to see what they want to see. In truth, I don't think anyone changed appearances to signal what they found attractive. For example, female!Black*Star looks like...Black*Star, with boobs. But if you wanted to you could say that Patti's deranged junkie look was a cross between Black*Star and Crona, and Liz's male appearance looked like Girico. I'll agree to disagree...however, the connotation behind moody is angry. The connotation behind gloomy is depressed.
974*** Very true about the viewing of Lust chapter. We can all see it in different ways, and since nothing is actually canon it's okay for us to see it differently. That is why we're on the WMG for it, is it not? As for moody, I have always known it as and read it as and learned it as an emotion ranging from sad to angry, and I agree it fits with Soul, but it also does for Crona. Though, I'm thinking that the Lust chapter has nothing to do with shippings, and we both are reading too much into it, sorry for that. It does seem that it should only change your gender, so maybe the Lust chapter is just showing them as the opposite sex and how they would act if they were the opposite sex of themselves, after reading Index's explanation it seems to be just that.
975-->"This chapter is the chapter of "Lust"... It's no mystery that your sex should change to the opposite one, according to what interests and entices you with regards to the opposite sex."
976** Sorry for the argument mon ami/m'amie. And I'm actually beginning to think the Index just said that last part to mess with their heads...
977** Problem with all these arguments is that it they don't have any romantic undertones. If anything Maka seems to be a CoolBigSis to Chrona, and Chrona's attachment to Maka is quite possibly [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe because Maka was the first person to ever show hir kindness]]. Also, I don't think that Chrona's ready for a romantic relationship--zhe was abused, experimented on, and who knows what else by Medusa for hir whole life. Zhe started to get better at Shibusen, but even then zhe only came out of hir shell a little, and the recent chapters have shown that zhe's gotten a lot worse. It would take years to recover from that kind of mental and emotional scarring before zhe could even think of having a romantic relationship. Anything else before then could and probably would be considered taking advantage of Chrona.
978
979[[WMG: Soul x Maka and Crona x Maka are BOTH {{canon}}]]
980Nobody ever speaks their feelings out loud, but it's clear that both Soul and Maka feel very strongly toward one another, as do Crona and Maka. Crona even says that Maka loves hir and Soul and Maka have grown touchy-feely over the course of the series, and the way Maka talks about Soul sometimes makes it seem like she's in love with him. Chapter 89 and up are likely to be Maka trying to choose between the two.
981* I believe that the "love" that Chrona has for Maka, and vice-versa, is more "motherly" love than actual romantic love. Think about it, Chrona needs someone who would love and care for him/her the way Medusa never did, the love of a mother and as of now that person is Maka, who seems to feel obligated to do just that.
982* This WMG, and the two above it, are currently jossed. These pairings flat out ''are not canon''. They may ''become'' canon, but they aren't ''yet''. It isn't canon until it is proven in the manga. Until then, it remains solely in the realm of speculation. (Incidentaly, I support SoulxMaka, so don't try and flame me. I'm talking about the definition of canon, not the pairings.)
983** While I can agree with the substance of your argument, allow me to be pedantic about one thing - {{Jossed}} means something has been ''dis''proven by canon (or WordOfGod), something that isn't proven one way or the other is not jossed.
984
985[[WMG: Soul is a younger version of Stein, Maka is a younger version of Marie, and Crona is a younger version (or clone) of Medusa]]
986(And Kid, of course, a younger version of Shinigami.) Thus, upcoming chapters will be Maka torn between sanity and insanity, like Stein was. It's a reversal since earlier in the manga and in the anime it was Stein battling between sanity (Marie) and insanity (Medusa), but it makes sense. Maka clearly cares a lot for both Soul and Crona, but she's also torn between following rules and doing what she thinks is right.
987
988[[WMG: Lord Death and The Kishiin were more than just Employer / Employee]]
989Please don't '''destroy'' me if it's been disproved in some episode after the one where Child Medusa goes to see the spider witch. They were lovers, and Lord Death loved The Kisshin's skin so that why he used a bag made of it, so he could just look down there with his special mirror whenever he wanted to.
990
991[[WMG: The entire school isn't just surrounded by Lord Death's soul]]
992He is so powerful that he can manifest his soul and change it's shape, so he did just that to repress the Kisshin, he placed his exponentially large soul on top of the burial place, and shaped it into a tangible fortress, that later became the DWMA.
993
994[[WMG: Lord Death created Kid to keep himself from going crazy.]]
995Since all of the manifestations of Madness seem to go...well [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin mad,]] it would make sense that Lord Death would eventually as well. He created Kid (his 'fragment') to either split the Madness up so he's not all of the Madness or give Kid most of the crazy so Lord Death himself would stay sane. This would explain why Kid's obsessed with symmetry as a form of order while his dad isn't.
996* Wasn't that what the GOO claimed was the reason for Kid's creation? If not, I second this WMG because it fits well: Death still has the 'madness' it's just in a less dangerous form at the moment. Kid has the order compulsion, but not the sheer power to inflict it upon everything he pleases, and he can 'ignore' it on occasion. Similarly Death retains his power (comparatively) but is not entirely without order; look at the state of Shibusen, or simply his reaction to Asura.
997
998[[WMG: On the off chance the anime continues...]]
999Medusa will come back. No, really: watch the credits for the final episode, and in the clip where [[VillainsOutShopping Free, Eruka, and the Mizine sisters are relaxing in the forest]], you can see a black snake covered in yellow arrows, slithering up a tree. [[OhCrap Now what form did Medusa take when she possessed Rachel?]]
1000* We'll get an Excalibur episode starring Mifune. Because [[RuleofFunny that would be funny.]]
1001
1002[[WMG: Chrona will be forgiven [[spoiler: despite being marked for death]]]]
1003If Shinigami's [[spoiler: a being of pure law]] perhaps he would be willing to allow them to plead insanity. Or self defence, in the case of [[spoiler:killin Medusa, since Chrona was for all intents and purposes an abused child.]]
1004
1005[[WMG: Chrona's gender confusion was part of Medusa's plans all along.]]
1006In my interpretation, Chrona is a boy (the use of "Boku", "I don't know how to deal with girls", all these evidences were discussed erlier), but Medusa did many things to make him look feminine (the dress, obviously, and also, forced hormone injections could explain his feminine silhouette), and add gender confusion to the whole Madness and Black Blood stew that is the hell that Chrona's mind is. It makes sense if you think about it.
1007
1008[[WMG: Soul's Real Name Is....]]
1009Don, possibly short of "Donald" or "Donovan". Okay, hear me out here. Psychedelic Souljam, if you look at the lyrics, looks like Soul talking about general events of the series. "So it's me, Soul the Eater cook up the bad and enjoy the dinner... Needless to say I'm number one, with a bit of help from the Devilish one." Now, one of the lines is "Don't call me Don." If Soul changed his name, he must have had a pretty bad falling out with his family. Possibly, they wanted him to continue practicing music and forget about going to the DWMA. Also, who would name their kids "Wes" (maybe short for Wesley?) and "Soul"? Plus, in Soul Eater NOT, Eternal Feather cites Soul as an example of name changes.
1010* Except Soul changed his name from Soul Evans to Soul Eater. The theory is still there though.
1011
1012[[WMG: Maka's mother's name "Kami" is not so much a name as a description or title...]]
1013...much like "Shinigami". She may represent Life/Gaia/Whatnot but is of the same class of being as Shinigami himself. That's the reason why Maka has special abilities. Kami is absent because she is running all over the world doing Shinigami's job as he is now tied down in Death City. After all, no matter how dangerous Asura is surely Shinigami can't leave the entire world undefended. Shibusen would have taken a while before its first cohort would have been ready for combat so that's not a viable alternative and Kidd is too weak at this point in time to take on Shinigami's responsibilities. Kami had a child during a lull period but departed Shibusen once this Indian summer passed. Also to get away from Spirit...
1014* Kami isn't Maka's mom's real name. It's just a LARGE fan mistranslation that ended up being spread around as Canon. 'Kami-san' is one of the things that husbands can call their wives (for more information, see [[http://www.fuzita.org/jpculture/howmanyi/howdoyoucallyourwife.html here]]). Spirit called Maka's mom 'moto-kami-san', which roughly translates to 'my ex-wife'.
1015
1016[[WMG: Crona will be the next Kishin.]]
1017If you think about it, Crona acts nearly exactly like Asura did before he became the first Kishin. Afraid of everything, thinking that obtaining power is the only way to escape fear... plus they both have the Black Blood, and they both share a body with their weapon partner (though on Asura, since he and his partner Vajra are still essentially two seperate bodies, and Asura just swallowed Vajra, he didn't get infused with him). Crona certainly has enough madness and human souls to become a Kishin, but (I think this was the reason they gave) s/he just lacks the will. So, as soon as Crona gains this 'will'... BAM! Kishin. Also, I'm pretty sure Asura said (in the anime, somewhere near the end), "Even if you do kill me, the only thing that will result is that a new Kishin will be born." Am I the only one getting foreshadowing vibes out of all of this? Really?
1018
1019[[WMG: Chrona [[spoiler: already is the next Kisin and is the one on the moon]]]]
1020Maka was searching for them and just so happens to pick up the Kisin on the moon?
1021
1022With the amount of power they seem to have accumulated [[spoiler: killing a death scythe and wiping out an entire town]] not to mention the personality changes that may well have come about from doing that and [[spoiler: killing Medusa]] it wouldn't be surprising if [[spoiler: Maka actually picked up Chrona's wavelength but mistook it for the Kisin's because of their increase in power]].
1023* This would be somewhat plausible, but Crona's already been revealed to be in the Santa Maria Novella Basilica...
1024
1025[[WMG: Maka is fully aware of her [[spoiler:weapon blood]]]]
1026In the final episode she says something along the lines of [[spoiler:"not wanting this power and having to hide it from the adults" (paraphrased)]].
1027
1028[[WMG: The suit Crona wore to Kid's party was Stein's]]
1029It kind of looks like something that Young!Stein would wear, and I don't think Crona would have anything other than hir dress to wear to the party. So, it's a possibility that Stein loaned/gave it to hir.
1030
1031[[WMG:Death makes it so hard to become a Death Sytche because of how few he NEEDS, and wants to keep as many doing the grunt work as possible.]]
1032Like an above WMG, Death makes sure as many students fail to become part of his elite squad of sythes. The reason? He only ever needs seven. While it appears that new demon weapons are a rarity on their own (it doesn't appear that there are more than 100 demon weapons enrolled in his school, plus another 100 miesters to use them). It appears his main seven have some degree of autonomy, with some of them outright refusing to come to his aid when the end of the world was at stake. The whole "school" is not for the weapon's personal betterment (although he does hope they become more powerful) he creates the illusion of progress to give weapons and their miesters, some goal to reach to. Setting them up just as an army, like his scary face, also wasn't a conductive way to bring in new students, who's parents refused in the fear their children were being "drafted." As a "school," he can attract their unique talents when they are young and easily reformable.
1033
1034[[WMG: Crona's gonna [[HesBack get better]] and pull a [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Simon]] at the last minute.]]
1035While there's no telling if Crona's ultimate [[TookALevelInBadass Level In Badass]] will result in ... them(?) becoming [[AmbiguousGender Manly or Womanly]], it's gonna be a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome either way.
1036* Don't know what Simon does, but... [[spoiler: Crona works things out for hirself - though Maka's presence helped with the MacGuffin - and ''does'' manage (barring a turnaround in ch113) to seal Asura. Crona confronts fear...and deals with it.]] Maybe not Gurren Lagann-style badass (that would be hitting things, right?), but certainly awesome.
1037
1038[[WMG: Medusa's [[StayingAlive Still Not Dead]]]]
1039The woman managed to survive being cut in half, having her arms chopped off and being impaled. Whilst she has said she could only do it because of the Kishin's madness, isn't there madness all over the place now? Besides, she's been the chessmaster of sorts since day one, I doubt she'll give up now. Maybe I just feel like I've been denied of a good fight scene, but still... even if she does end up floating around as a ghost/spirit, the witch is tough as nails. She'll find a way to keep on going.
1040* How about this? Medusa is dead, but she somehow placed her soul inside Crona so she can actually see her plans come to fruition. After all, she ''did'' seem eager to do it. Ever since she fought Justin and Tezca, she knew Crona would be the death of her, but even though she may be legally dead, there are still other people who've lived on after being killed (Tezca for example). It's unlikely she'd be controlling Crona directly, but just watching.
1041* One theory about how she did it; the same way she did the first time. That is, that on ''both'' occasions Medusa used the 'madness' unleashed by Asura's resurrection in the first instance, and her own death by Crona's hand in the second, to allow her soul to survive the destruction of her current body. It's clear that Medusa thrives on this sort of chaos...perhaps she literally lives by it. And if that ''is'' her method, then perhaps even the second Body Surf into Arachne's body counts, as Arachne also tried to make herself into a 'kishin'. Which would be even better, because Medusa would have basically told her sister ''how she was going to kill her''. She did claim that she couldn't pull off the same trick twice. Unless, of course, the circumstances were replicated...
1042
1043[[WMG: Clown Kaguya is a BrainwashedAndCrazy Kami.]]
1044Because it would be lulzy.
1045
1046[[WMG: Death, or Death the Kid who became a complete Reaper, will be cause of Justin's death]]
1047This is based on chapter 69 when Tezka appeared in front of Medusa and Justin, and each saw a vision of Crona and Death respectively. Tezka did say stuff about him being a mirror that reflects people, and their death depending on the paths they take. [[spoiler:Now that Medusa indeed died at hands of Crona, it seems likely that Justin will die by Death.]]
1048
1049[[WMG: Stein is Maka's mother]]
1050He just got a sex change.
1051* [[{{Squick}} From himself]].
1052
1053[[WMG: Crona's "dress" is made out of Black Blood]]
1054As far as I can tell it never gets damaged. Not even when struck by Soul or Spirit in scythe-form. The black blood could feasibly protect skin, but not prevent clothing damage. This also explains why Crona always wears it (save to Kidd's party), and how Ragnarok can just pop out of it: it is Crona's blood. And Crona is shown to have some control over his blood (e.g. Bloody Slicer, Bloody Needle).
1055* Nice idea, as it would mean it had a later comparison in Maka's own 'black blood dress/armour'. Though since he's twice defended Maka from Crona Spirit could and still can damage the black blood on his own (stabbing Crona through the chest on the first occasion, blocking an attack on the second).
1056
1057[[WMG: Maka, Ash from pokemon, and Eddie from House of Anubus are all related.]]
1058What happened was that Peri Brown from Doctor Who and Mr. Sweet had a son named [[Spoiler: Eddison Sweet jr.]] Meanwhile, Spirit and Deliah were going to the DWMA together, and two years after Eddie, Maka was born. However, Being Spirit, he cheated on Deliah, and ,enraged, she went and had a kid four years after Maka was Born with Mr. Sweet and named him Ash. They get their powers from theri parents, too. From Deliah, Ash and Maka get soul perception/aura, from Mr. Sweet, Ash and Eddie get [[Spoiler:chosen one powers]], and from Peri, Eddie got [[Spoiler: egyptian curses]] due to the fifth doctor audios with the egyption chick.
1059
1060[[WMG: Maka's pupils are the result of her Japanese heriatage.]]
1061Black*Star mentions at one point she's [[ButNotTooForeign part Japanese]]. The only example we've really seen of a meister with odd pupils apart from Maka are the presumably Asian Azusa (when she's using her clairvoyance abilities) and Black*Star himself, who has WingdingEyes when he's getting worked up (in the same way Maka gets pupils when she's angry/upset), something he apparently inherited from his father. If one line of Japanese warriors has this trait, why not others. Thus Maka's pupils could be inherited from relatives from a similar liniage (obviously this doesn't have to be the case, but hey; ChekhovsGun), either partially (hence her pupils are just getting larger but not changing shape[[labelnote:*]]Given she isn't blind, it can be assumed that her pupils are just small, not non-existant, when she isn't worked up.[[/labelnote]]) or because her Japanese relatives actually have eyes like that (in which case, I'm also going to guess that we'll see some sort of scenes which parallel Black*Star being chased by angry mobs because of what his ancestors did, or at least a reveal where someone has the same sort of eyes; maybe her mother)
1062
1063[[WMG: Spirit Albarn is not a lecher, just lonely]]
1064Spirit's perverted nature as stated elsewhere on this very page is merely an InformedAbility. What is confirmed is that he spends time at the Cabaret House talking about Make and his ex-wife. My theory is that since the day that he became "The Death Scythe, Personal Weapon of Shinigami-sama himself" he rarely got to leave Death City. Meanwhile, his wife Meister extrordinaire still has duties and missions to do and thus spends lots of time away from her husband. Spirit is noticebly immature and given one of the first things that I recall him stating about his wife was saving him from Stein's secret experiments, I think that he may subconciously have a need to be around women to feel safe from Stein. Granted he is still a professional and works with Stein whenever ordered to, but when speaking of Stein's experiments he gets a look of dread(if I remember correctly, been awhile since I saw the beginning) that not even Kishin managed to produce. As another WMG stated above, he was most likely assigned to Stein to keep him in check, but his growing fear of him made that less and less effective, which is why Marie is more successful in that regard, if he tried anything with her, she would punch him through a wall.
1065
1066His Ex-wife however, is oblivious to this and just sees him being an unfaithful lout when in reality she is the most important person in the world to him, with Maka being second. This troper personally hopes that when she-who-has-yet-to-be-seen makes an appearance, maybe there will be some reconciliation between them.
1067* [[TearJerker *Sniff*]]
1068* Or it's both. He ''is'' a childish womaniser, but his separation from his wife, estrangement from his daughter and...weird relationships with his colleagues (and casual 'acquaintances' who turn out to be witches) mean Spirit is ''also'' a lonely chap. He very, very occasionally appears rather more miserable than his daft antics would suggest (trying to talk to Maka, observing her missions, dealing with Shinigami and Stein for e.g).
1069
1070[[WMG: The Identity of the [[UnusualEuphemism flavor]] of madness of the last three Great Old Ones...]]
1071[[LoveMakesYouCrazy Love]], [[GoMadFromTheIsolation loneliness]], and [[OrderVersusChaos chaos]].
1072* Wonder what they would look/act like...
1073* Alternate theory: Instead of Chaos, there was a flavor for [[DespairEventHorizon despair]].
1074
1075[[WMG: The series will end with 108 chapters]]
1076Think about it. 108 is popular in manga and anime due to its significance in Buddhism and the series has already made one reference to 108 with Soul's class placement on his exam in chapter 12. This also seems more and more likely with each chapter with chapter 102 definitely starting towards the final battle.
1077
1078[[WMG: The Book of Eibon is a TARDIS]]
1079* Eibon owns it, seems to never age, and possesses incredible knowledge on everything on earth, detailed in his book (The TARDIS's library?!), implying he's a future incarnation of the Doctor, or maybe another timelord entirely...?
1080* It's bigger on the inside.
1081* Death is generally feared when he's angry, never ages, and is both loyal a damn good ally, making him the Doctor.
1082* Asura never ages, is a major villain, and is associated with both Death and Eibon, making him the Master.
1083* The other people in the Grand Eight (or whatever they're called, Death's inner council) would be the High Council of Gallifrey.
1084** This makes the fiery place in the background whenever they're shown not Hell but Gallifrey.
1085** The sky of Gallifrey IS similar in color to the background: brown-orange to red.
1086* [[TheReveal The author of this thread is Steven Moffat.]]
1087* There's not any proof that the shows are in alternate universes.
1088** And even if there is proof, there may be alternate Doctors.
1089*** One can only hope~~
1090* Death is a god ,or Death-god, or a Shinigami. Everyone knows that [[Manga/DeathNote Shinigami love apples.]] The Tenth Doctor loved apples.
1091BOOM, facts.
1092
1093[[WMG:Somewhere out there, there is an embodiment for Life.]]
1094One of the main themes for this series is balance. For Courage, there is Madness, for example. If that is the case, then there must be an opposite to Kid. Possibly a girl in green... Which brings me to my next theory...
1095
1096[[WMG:The cause of Kid's OCD is the way he grew up]]
1097Think about it. If one grew up with precise knowledge that balance was essential to the world as we know it, and you were one of those children who had to keep said balance in check or risk the apocalypse, wouldn't that make anyone a little OCD-ish?
1098
1099[[WMG: Maka's mother will make her debut appearance as a follower of the Keshin]]
1100I say this because we've never seen her and she never once comes to check up on her daughter, even after Ashura's escape. It gives the impression that she doesn't care about the epitome of madness escaping into the world. I imagine she'd be involved in the final battle of the series, and has to fight Spirit.
1101* A fight that will turn into a domestic row when Spirit has a go at his ex-wife for abandoning their teenage daughter for no good reason (that we know of).
1102
1103[[WMG: All Meister x Weapon pairings are canon.]]
1104A natural consequence of having them be so emotionally linked.
1105* Even Death the Kid and Spirit/Stein?
1106** That's not even the worst of it: Liz and Patti can act as each other's meister, and Spirit ''is'' Shinigami's Weapon.
1107* Not ''all'' of them are that close. Some are able to work with others in spite of their relationship. Tsubaki can work with any meister, and Stein with any Weapon he finds interesting (hence using Spirit as a 'test subject'). Also if Spirit is to be believed, Maka can act as his meister because they're father and daughter.
1108** Tsubaki can work with any meister, because she's been proven to be really perverted. Stein is not that omnivorous, but if he's interested, he's interested. See, it all adds up! (Though we can safely assume family bonds are fine too, hence Maka working with Spirit.)
1109
1110[[WMG:Maka's mother will be introduced just when Maka's riding her father.]]
1111Remember that the wings are from Maka and not Soul.
1112
1113[[WMG: Maka is secretly a DaddysGirl.]]
1114There is one person Maka trusts to set the standard for feminine beauty and this seems to be an easily achievable goal, however this guy not only doesn't hit on Maka, but also discourages other guys from doing so. Hence her angst.
1115* Mommy stays away because all Maka wants to talk about is Daddy, Daddy, Daddy.
1116
1117[[WMG: The bad souls on Death's list are dead and have escaped from Death.]]
1118That's why the kids are being sent after famous dead people.
1119
1120[[WMG: Three of the Eight Old Warriors are in fact [[HorsemenOfTheApocalypse War, Pestilence and Famine]].]]
1121Wouldn't be surprised to see Lord Death on Horseback.
1122
1123[[WMG:''Literature/TheSacredBlacksmith'' was the world of 1K years ago.]]
1124
1125[[WMG: Maka will wield Soul like a hammer to smash the minions of Chaos flat.]]
1126And then she'll collect all these [[Manga/CardcaptorSakura Clown Cards]], to be deployed safely out of reach while she's flying around.
1127
1128[[WMG: If Kid [[spoiler: replaces his father]] he will ''not'' be the same]]
1129[[spoiler: Killing Asura and connecting all three Sanzu Lines may only mean that 'Shinigami' will be as he was before this whole mess started. And what we've seen of that is not terribly nice. No matter what his friends insist, a single 'fragment' like Kid is ''not'' going to have a say in the matter. I suspect what we're ''actually'' going to see is a triumph for the {{Power Of Friendship}} for all concerned, and Kid's experiences as a child with regular, human friends will overrule him being an Eldritch Abomination. But the alternative just has to be thrown in there.]]
1130* Technically there was nothing to suggest that pre-Shibosen!Shinigami was bad (while he sounds pretty badass, his job was still protecting humans); it's entirely possible that all that changed was how he presented himself to humans, making the point moot.
1131** Noted. He was more...fierce but, it seems for the moment, still protecting humans as you point out. Either he was bad and changed, or wasn't that 'bad' to begin with and became nicer as the Shibusen idea required. Then I amend my point to simply the question of whether Kid's personality will change (in any way) as a result of taking on both Asura and Shinigami's souls.
1132
1133[[WMG: Kid will be overcome by Madness and join with [[spoiler: his older brother Asura]]]]
1134Just think about it; his shock and denial about Asura [[spoiler: being his brother]] just go to show how much he believed his father, who he practically worships, would never [[spoiler: willingly create Madness]]. When confronted by the fact that his father [[spoiler: CREATED the first Kishin]], he might just snap. More evidence by these facts: [[spoiler: Kid desperately trying to justify his similar appearance to Asura, his unsureness of his father's motives and doubt, and Black*Star having to remind him that they were there to defeat the Kishin. Bonus for Kid's shaky answer, and the undoubtable fact that most of his teachers knew]].
1135
1136[[WMG: Medusa is a Great Old One/Kishin...]]
1137...who took on the shape and powers of a witch for her own purposes. Specifically, she's the Madness of Despair; that's the best explanation of [[BrownNote her Fragment's poetry]].
1138
1139[[WMG: Blair will become Kim's familiar]]
1140
1141[[WMG: Medusa's next return will be with Voldemort and Orochimaru]]
1142Orochimaru will revive Medusa with Edo Tensei while Voldemort will be ripped from Limbo by said Sannin. Together they will attack their homeworlds!
1143
1144[[WMG: Shinigami left his options open]]
1145And hadn't entirely ruled out using the [[spoiler: 'Madness of Order' to counter Asura's own 'Madness'. ''That'' was why he kept Spirit in the city, not because Shinigami expected to fight but because he needed the soul wavelength control of his Death Scythe to transmit his own 'Madness' across the planet.]] Kid didn't seem to think Shinigami was willing to do such a thing, but Kid thinks a lot of things... Not saying Shinigami would have liked the option, but just that he wouldn't have ruled it out had worst come to worst.
1146
1147[[WMG: Maka has been dead all along.]]
1148Hence her blank "souless" eyes.
1149
1150[[WMG: Crona will [[spoiler:regain control of Asura and use the black blood to somehow heal Maka]] ]]
1151At the end of chapter 110, [[spoiler: before Asura impales Maka, we see a single panel of Crona, presumably from within the Kishin. This could be taken to suggest that Crona might be regaining some level of conciousness, and what better way for him/her to regain his/her senses than by seeing the first person who ever showed him/her any kindness get skewered?]] [[spoiler: The black blood does have some established healing abilities, though I don't know if it can be used to heal others. I can hope, I suppose.]]
1152* Maka ''is'' going to survive one way or another (the alternative seems unlikely). So, on that basis, two points. One, Crona lost control to Asura because ze was confronted by the bond between Maka and Spirit. Granted, nothing can bring back the bond Crona broke, ''but'' that doesn't mean Crona is entirely without platonic/familial bonds in another sense; primarily Maka. There's hope yet, for both of them. Two, and this doesn't exactly help, doesn't the black blood seem to shield people from damage rather than aid healing (you heal quicker because you suffered less damage in the first place)? Either way, the basic idea of Crona somehow returning the favour to Maka (matching soul wavelengths, finding her when she is somehow unreachable) is very fitting given their relationship. Crona saves Maka and zhirself.
1153
1154[[WMG: Asura won't be killed off, possibly because he can't be.]]
1155It's never stated in the manga that Lord Death couldn't kill Asura, but given the revelation in chapter 108, I find it kind of difficult to swallow that he would willingly flay [[spoiler: his own son alive]], which makes me think that killing him just wasn't an option for some reason.
1156
1157Alternatively, Lord Death is a much bigger dick than we give him credit for.
1158* Apparently confirmed in Ch112 [[spoiler: Crona says that Asura - being 'fear' - cannot be killed (even as Maka protests otherwise), and decides to imprison the Kishin using Brew and hir own black blood.]] Which, incidentally, means [[spoiler: Asura is being re-imprisoned by the very thing which freed in him the first place, and gave 'power' and freedom of a kind to those who opposed him.]]
1159
1160[[WMG: Death the kid will marry Chiri Kitsu from ''Manga/SayonaraZetsubouSensei'']]
1161And all shall perish.
1162
1163[[WMG: Stein is the biological father of Crona.]]
1164This isn't the first time Medusa has tried to seduce Stein, and last time it actually worked. For some reason, he doesn't recognize her, though.
1165* Knowing Medusa, she probably [[QuestionableConsent seduced him with mind altering chemicals/magic]]. If that's the case, then Crona would be a ChildByRape.
1166
1167[[WMG: Ragnarok is Crona's twin brother.]]
1168Because where else would Medusa get a weapon?
1169* Running with your theory I wonder if this could explain how Ragnarok and Crona could work together. We know their 'resonance' is one of madness and fear, not the usual kind used by other pairs, but later chapters claim that parents and children can work together naturally. It would have given Crona and Ragnarok's earliest 'experiments' an advantage if they did have some compatibility to fall back on. That being said, Medusa wanted to sever Crona from any familial/personal relation that wasn't Medusa herself, so may be a bit counter-intuitive to imagine her wanting any positive connection between her hybrid Meister/Weapon creation. On the other (other?) hand, it's not unknown for her to manipulate such things (see also Maka and Soul).
1170
1171[[WMG: In the final chapter, [[spoiler:Black*Star]] is going to die.]]
117242 is an ArcNumber, yes? But I'm not sure what an ArcNumber is called when it spans both series.
1173So go back to chapter 42, if you've read chapter 112. IF AND ONLY IF. [[spoiler: I believe this is the chapter where Maka has a nightmarish flashback beginning with her standing with her father, seeing Sid and Black*Star for the first time at the DWMA. Suddenly, Sid, Spirit, and Black*Star all fall dead, and Maka is left crying.]]
1174Stemming from this, I think Maka will lose it at [[spoiler: the apparent death of her father.]]
1175Unless, of course...
1176* I think ch42 (or whichever that hallucination/Mind Rape was in) stands well on its own as one of the more disturbing scenes in the series; simple yet shocking. However, given who is involved, you could have a point (and a possibly a nod to [[spoiler: how they might be saved]]). And either way [[spoiler: I can kind of see Black*Star dying of his injuries after running on Heroic Resolve (or similar) for the past couple of chapters. He ''does'' finally agree he's human, after all. Shame if he did die, I've finally come round to not despising the guy.]]
1177
1178[[WMG:NobodyCanDie.]]
1179Because spoiler for chapter 110: [[spoiler:DeathTakesAHoliday]]. That last thing in spoilertags was a link.
1180
1181[[WMG:Stein's screw is a result of an experiment.]]
1182-->'''Stein''': [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} Getting the screw in was the easy part. But the hard part was getting the screw IN]]. [[LaughingMad HAHAHAHAHA!]]
1183
1184[[WMG:Stein and Marie's child is female]]
1185And ''Manga/FrankenFran'' was a Manga/SoulEater sequel all along.
1186
1187[[WMG: There will be a sequel]]
1188There's far too many plot points open to leave them all hanging like this. To begin with: [[spoiler: Crona, the Book of Eibon, the lasting effects of Asura's Madness, what happens to DWMA and the witches now, and the question of just how long the seal will last...]]
1189
1190[[WMG: Kid's reorganisation will take time, and not everyone will like it]]
1191While it was a necessary move before he could even ''start'' considering an alliance with the witches, Kid's choice to [[spoiler: stop the creation of Death Scythes will not go down well with everybody. There will be DWMA people who simply don't want to trust the witches, witches who take advantage of this arrangement to get revenge, who-knows-what other factions weighing in as a result of Shinigami's death. And the purely practical point that having what we now know are 'unfinished' Weapons simply won't be enough to combat the threats that still exist in the world, especially we've seen ''all'' of the Death Scythes. Not everybody is as good as Spartoi, that much is known. Kid has good intentions, and the sense to realise he'll need the help of the people who worked with his dad, but this may not go well for him.]]
1192
1193[[WMG: Black Blood is actually a metaphor for HIV and AIDS]]
1194Think about it. Soul got it in a fight in which he was given open wounds. When it was discovered everybody, including Soul himself, had a difficult time mentioning it to Maka. Soul as a result of his infection was hesitant to resonate with Maka beyond a certain level because he was afraid he would spread it to her.
1195
1196[[WMG: Black Star is descended from [[Literature/TheAmbitionOfOdaNobuna Hachisuka Goemon]].]]
1197They look alike, and they are both {{Ninja}}s.
1198
1199[[WMG: Stein has extreme OCD.]]
1200At first, it seems that he's a psychopath, and even declares himself to be emotionless, but we come to see that's not true. He's capable of feeling love towards other people, and is aware that his actions are wrong and actively fights the urges, which all contradict the behavior of a psychopath. What we do know is that he has a strong urge to cut things open. OCD is stereotyped as being something that makes someone a neat freak, but in reality, it's all in the name. '''''Obsessive compulsion.''''' Stein has an obsession with cutting people, and feels compulsions to do just that.
1201
1202[[WMG: Harvar is actually [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Nara Shikadai]] in disguise]]
1203Because Shikadai is practically Shikamaru's clone, and Harvar looks interestingly like the both of them.
1204
1205[[WMG: Maka's Mother is the Madness of Courage]]
1206This is more of an Anime thing, but everybody talks about how Maka's great gift is bravery. Also, that's how she was able to defeat Asura, that postcard wasn't just a reminder, it was also a token of her power which Maka was holding in her hand when she punched Asura.
1207
1208[[WMG: Asura was only beaten in the anime because he was severely weakened]]
1209He managed to beat Lord Death, but before then he was pretty thoroughly getting his ass kicked. He created the black orb of defense because he was planning on hibernating and recovering his strength, that's how he didn't immediately swat Kid, Black Star and Maka. And then after Black Star hit him with his full combo and he absorbed Kid's full Sanzu Line Death Cannon, he exploded into a much smaller and weaker looking form (he was even slimmer and younger looking than normal). That's why his Vajra beams didn't just explode Soul and Maka and that's why Maka's Bravery Punch beat him. He was already run ragged, a little bit of his essence's (fear) counter was enough to push him over the edge, modified by Maka's Anti-Magic Wavelength. Asura was defeated because Maka hit him with the right thing at the right time after Asura had the combined ass-whooping of a lifetime.
1210
1211[[WMG: Death the Kid and Lord Death are the same person]]
1212But Lord Death is mucking about with time and space so he can have his younger self in the same place as his older self. As Kid gains power Lord Death loses it because you still can't make energy out of nothing. This endless cycle allows Death to constantly adapt for the future, let's say if he binds his soul to one location for instance.
1213
1214
1215[[WMG: Death Scythes are so powerful but difficult to sync with because of the souls they ate]]
1216We constantly hear the 99 souls and one with soul thing, but we never really get told what it's for. Do they hand them over to Lord Death? Are they destroyed? Do they trade them in for items? So my theory is that they actually resonate with the other souls inside them. But because of that exact same reason they're so difficult to really sync up with because of how their own soul wavelength is constantly changing. That means that only those either capable of changing their own wavelengths (i.e Lord Death, Stein, Death The Kid, Black Star) can act as their Meisters, or only those Death Scythes that can alter their own soul wavelength to make it easier to link (e.g Spirit) can be wielded by your average Meister.----
1217
1218[[WMG: Angela's parents were killed by the Star Clan.]]
1219A witch soul is powerful. Harnessing that energy would be massively useful. Thus, the Star Clan were paid to assassinate Angela's parents. They left Angela alone as she wasn't part of the mission. The rest of her backstory picks up from there.
1220
1221[[WMG: Chrona is a replacement/substitute for one of the great old ones.]]
1222Specifically, the Great Old One of the madness born from Loss. We know of five great old ones so far [[spoiler: Death/Order, Excalibur/Rage, Eibon/Knowledge, Asura/Fear and the unamed great old one of power.]] There is no stated limit to the great old ones, except possibly nine (Death and his legion of eight.) Thus, it's possible e like crona could take the place of a fallen Old One, emitting his own madness wavelength. He even stated that he wanted to use his wavelength to misalign everyone and everything on earth, and he proved capable of doing so during his fight with Maka and Black*Star, where he rendered them incapable of resonating with soul and Tsubaki. I believe he's the madness of loss specifically because he was driven to insanity by being deprived of basic human mental and emotional necessities, and that madness was further fueled by the Black Blood and Ragnarok.
1223
1224* Canonically, Chrona's personal madness initially manifested as the Madness born of Breasts--but that this was specifically because of their desire for a mother figure. Perhaps like how [[spoiler:Kid's symmetry obsession is a small part of the Madness born of Order]], Chrona will actually embody the Madness born of Love/Codependence.
1225
1226[[WMG: Excalibur has a Grigori soul.]]
1227The whole Wings of Light thing his Meisters get? That's the soul manifesting. It's only on the Meister because a flying sword is less practical than say, a scythe or halberd.
1228
1229[[WMG: Ragnarok doesent exist]]
1230as mentioned on the fridge page considering what being melted down and injected into someones blood would do to your psyche its a miracle Ragnarok isent a mindless gibbering mess, but what if he is? the weapon that was melted down died that day, the Ragnarok we see is merely a manifestation of the black blood and cronas psyche, a desire for companionship led to ragnarok taking humanoid form, but there self esteem issues made him a manifestation of cronas self hatred, which is why he bullys Crona, as Crona starts to assert themself more and gain real friends Ragnarok is no longer needed, which is why he shrinks, becomes less cruel, and eventually disapears, he is no longer needed so he simply fades back into Crona's mind.

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