Line #58 WMG/MoralOrel


1	[[WMG: Clay did actually love Orel]]
2	It's just that he was too insane to act upon it.
3	** Clay acted upon it in the only way he knew how to love. Which was warped and insane in itself, the way young Clay's eye lit up when he was about to get hit in the face.
4	** As mentioned above it’s very possible (as messed up as it sounds) that all of Orel’s lectures and spankings in hands of Clay’s were in reality his twisted way of showing his care and affection to Orel. Additionally it’s subtly implied that Clay does loves Orel and it’s aware of his abuse towards him based on the speech he gave on ‘Sacrifice, but unfortunately, he lacks the strength of character to stop or become someone better.
5	-->Clay: And that through your weaknesses, you built up a poison that poisoned others around you. '''That you love.'''
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7	[[WMG:Orel was an angel.]]
8	He can't remember it. Orel the angel screwed up royally and got punished by God with being reborn as a mere mortal.
9	He loves to go to church because it's the only way he can be closest to Heaven and God.
10	It's also why in episode "Grounded" Orel even after several electroshocks comes back to the living world. God didn't want him back.
11	* Orel is Lucifer?
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13	[[WMG:Bloberta is demisexual.]]
14	In 'Numb', Bloberta is one a whole quest for a thing that will relieve her pent-up sexual energy. When she strikes up what she seems to think is [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe a personal relationship with Dr. Potterswheel]], she achieves orgasm almost comically easily just by thinking about him. She says she no longer needs her toys or tools because she now has him. When Dr. Potterswheel shoots her down - as politely as possible, if a little cold - Bloberta seems more upset that he doesn't care about her than the loss of sexual relief. Early in the episode, it's implied that she also thought Daniel cared about her, and is similarly disappointed to learn this is not the case. Bloberta is only able to be aroused from someone she feels an emotional connection with. It's not that Clay is a bad lover, it's that there is no emotional connection between them, so Bloberta cannot be sexually satisfied by him.
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16	[[WMG:Angela's death is her ThanatosGambit.]]
17	She knew that it is end of her life now that her heart is weak due from too much alcohol and smoking. That's why she allowed Clay to see the photos of his unborn siblings and uses his fake suicide to kill herself.
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19	[[WMG:Clay is (thematically) TheAntichrist.]]
20	His life is screwed from the moment he killed his own mother by his fake death to insulting his father so that he can be slapped. What else is that he shot his own son, Orel, just to prove that Orel can hate someone like him. All of Moralton covertly hates Clay because he will cause the end of their world with his beliefs.
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22	[[WMG:Orel has been in coma all along in season 3.]]
23	The episode "Grounded" takes place before "Nature part 1", right? Therefore, the events of Clay shooting him and the rest of season 3 happens to be a dream.
24	* You can’t dream in other people’s perspectives though, and there’s honestly too grim. Not to mention we DIRECTLY SEE HIM WAKE UP.
25	[[WMG: Orel would have had a worse adolescence and adulthood if the show continued]]
26	As is stated both here on the main article and on Website/ThatOtherWiki Moral Orel's happy ending was the product of a forced GeckoEnding by the Executives of Creator/AdultSwim. So It can be assumed that if Moral Orel was allowed to continue for a possible 4th and 5th season Orel's remaining childhood would have gotten [[FromBadToWorse increasingly worse]].
27	Since the Deconstructionist humor was on what seemed to be a increasing Slippery Slope along the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism regardless of what WordOfGod had said about Orel getting darker and yet growing as a person. Nothing would stop Orels creator from making things more and more miserable for his lead character and his universe. If oral didnt become just like his father the viewers would have either seen Orel become a miserable homeless drunken strung out wreck or some Evangelion type FateWorseThanDeath like some paranormal force of wrath or brutal justice killing everyone in town leaving only Orel alive a hollow insane shell.
28	** The happy ending wasn't the part that was forced, it was the abruptness of it. The creators have stated that Orel still would have gotten his happy ending.
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30	[[WMG:Clay Puppington is the BigBad of the entire series all along, not Ms. Censordoll.]]
31	Maybe she's just a scapegoat to confuse the audience. He even allowed her to control him into shooting Orel and losing respect for him as his plan. Remember the part where she tried to become the new Mayor? It turns out he planned it confuse Orel. When she quits, she just did it so that Clay would keep his position as BigBad.
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33	[[WMG:The BigBad is {{Satan}}.]]
34	Isn't Satan the Big Bad of all of Christianity?
35	* Or the BigBad is [[GodIsEvil God]], and the world in the show is exactly as His word dictates ours should be.
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37	[[WMG:Everyone is TheAntichrist except for Orel.]]
38	And even the people who are nice to him.
39
40	[[WMG: Clay has a SplitPersonality.]]
41	He created a good personality to dissociate himself from the childhood he has. This personality is shown in "Help", but the original personality took over when Clay is introduced to alcoholism. After Bloberta punches him, the good personality takes over again to marry her, but the bad personality takes over the time after the marriage. When Orel is born, the good personality took over this time to teach him the bad things he has done. However, it comes to an end in "Nature" part 1 and 2 when Clay drinks too much alcohol that would result in the original personality to become dominant permanently.
42	* This whole theory is basically InVinoVeritas.
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44	[[WMG: Oral and his brother(s) were put into foster care after the events of "Nature"]]
45	Shapey and/or Blocky's bizarre behavior got the attention of child protective services who sent over a social worker to investigate. After Oral told the social worker about his hunting trip with his Dad, the Puppingtons soon lost custody and the boys were put with a more competent foster family. That's why adult Oral is so well adjusted.
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47	[[WMG: Clay orchestrated Orel to hate him for a reason.]]
48	* Yes, precisely so that Orel would grow up to be just like him. And that's no WMG, it's pretty much canon.
49	** while Clay did make his son hate him it's for Oral to hate him so much he would always fight back giving Clay the abuse indused attention he wants.
50	[[WMG:Clay tries to become like Jesus.]]
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52	[[WMG: Nurse Bendy is Dr. Claire Saunders in an alternate universe.]]
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54	[[WMG: Orel's son is named Bartholomew.]]
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56	[[WMG: Orel and his brother(s) will be taken by Child Protective Service after the series finaly and adopted by Stephanie and her father]]
57	When Stephanie finaly hears what happens at his house (proably from Orel at work), she called CPS who then sent over a social worker to investigate. After Orel told the social worker about his hunting trip with his Dad, the Puppingtons soon lost custody and the boys were adopted by the closest thing to a loving/competent adult. That's why adult Oral is so well adjusted.
58	* Alternate option: They go to Clay's father, if he's still alive by then. Yes, the AbortedArc would have his death, but the key word is 'Aborted'. Since it didn't happen, it's possible Grandpa Puppington would live on, at least until Orel reaches his majority.
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60	[[WMG: The picture on Orel's wall in the DistantFuture is of ''Christina's'' parents, not Orel's.]]
61	Seriously, I think I'm the only one that remembers that her parents look exactly like his. And while it does shed a darker light on Orel, there could be other reasons; that Clay and Bloberta cut themselves out of Orel's lives, that Orel converted to Christina's form of Christianity (which could explain the previous), or that, yes, Orel cut them out of his life. And honestly? I wouldn't blame him one bit. I wouldn't want MY hypothetical kids around someone like them.
62	* Some evidence seems to exist that Christina's parents were actually worse than Orel's, so it doesn't seem likely that the picture is of them.
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64	[[WMG: The creators intentionally made Season 3 [[GoneHorriblyRight so dark it would get cancelled]] so that the show would go out on a high note.]]
65	* They don't have anything against the show, they just wanted it to end as one of Creator/AdultSwim's best shows, [[SeasonalRot so that it ends before it turns out like]] ''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce'' or ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken''.
66	** Considering how not long after the creator moved on to WesternAnimation/MaryShelleysFrankenhole, possible at least.
67	*** By design, Moral Orel couldn't turn out like Aqua Teen or Robot Chicken, in the sense that only the very forgiving or very perverse end up liking them after several seasons, if that's what is meant by the apparent consensus by tropers that those two shows have fallen into seasonal rot. AT and RC are focused on comedy and eschew continuity, whereas Moral Orel, from Season 3 onward, was more drama than comedy and EXTREMELY focused on continuity. If it had continued, it probably would've been even better. It was supposed to last five seasons, and its name would eventually change from Moral Orel to Moralton as it became focused on the town overall and not just Orel. If seasonal rot were to happen, it would be because of different reasons that AT or RC, and I think that Dino Stamatopolous would take special care to make sure that nothing like that happened. It was cancelled simply because the Ms. Sculptham scenes from "Alone" were too disturbing for Keith Crawford, Mike Lazzo, and Nick Weidenfeld to handle without humor to soften the impact, and they were afraid of Dino making it more disturbing. How you can get much more disturbing than the events of that episode, I have no idea, however.
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69	[[WMG: Moralton is Purgatory.]]
70	* It just happens that Orel and Christina are the only ones who are able to ascend to Heaven.
71	** I don't know, I think Shapey and Block would too. They're seven and bratty, but things can change as they grow up.
72	** Also, would that make Reverend Putty or Stephanie [[Series/LifeOnMars2006 Gene]] [[Series/AshesToAshes2008 Hunt?]]
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74	[[WMG:Clay wasn't really Gay or Bi. Or even all that sexual.]]
75	Yes, he was genuinely sincere in his need and love for Stopframe, but it was purely emotional and not sexual for him, which was not the same for the coach. When you think about it, Clay isn't really a sexual creature outside of the episodes where he does roleplay with the other family and hires prostitutes from Orel. All his 'serious' relationships are just pure emotional obsession and attachment to another figure, less about sex and more about desperately trying to fill the need for parental affection in him. Clay is shown being lavished with attention in his early childhood by his mother before her death and taking desperate actions whenever he wanted his Father's. Bloberta roped him into a quick marriage by manipulating him into thinking he needed her and that she could provide him with love that he so craved. It's even implied later on that he's developed an UsefulNotes/OedipusComplex. Coach Stopframe's level of obsession with Clay reminded him of his mother's obsession. What Clay wanted most was to find someone who would practically worship him, even if it meant leading someone on that he had no real sexual attraction to. Stopframe and Clay's relationship was just an another example of how manipulative and uncaring of other's Clay is. 'Nesting' supports this very well, due to all the VERY Freudian imagery in Clay's head and Censordoll easily manipulating him as a mother-figure.
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77	[[WMG: Orel succeeds Rev. Putty as reverend of the church.]]
78	Dino imagined that Orel would stay in Moralton to make it a better place, and where better than at the pulpit?
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80	[[WMG: Joe, later in life will struggle with his sexuality.]]
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82	Joe's go-to main insults are that something is dumb and old are shown to be projections of his own short-coming and fears. So it's safe to assume he may be a budding homosexual as well.
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84	Practically as an adult he would have confusing feelings about say, The figerille boy, and go to varying family members for advice. Firstly his mother before realizing she's to damaged to help, then his sister who we'll she is seeing someone now isn't much help due her lack of experience and age, even going to Uncle Danielle and Stephanie who also fail, before he ends up drunkingly spilling his issues to Oerl on a social visit at the bar, and getting the more sound advice. (The companion episode to this would be Oerl attempting to explain to his son why he allows Joe to still "pick on"/insult him and a mature Oerl attempting to explain turn the other cheek and knowing that Joe doesn't have much going for him) so the episode would end seeing the end of a slightly nicer interaction between Oerl (with son in tow) and Joe, before Joe gets the nerve to tell whoever he likes he likes them. The credits roll over what Joe is saying but the reaction is nice.
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86	[[WMG: ReligionIsWrong because no steps are taken to improve what they have.]]
87	We might never know if there really is or is not a god / afterlife / divine edict in Morel Orel's universe, but whatever the truth is, there is enough horrifying evidence from the show to prove that whatever the townsfolk believe is the right way to live? That ain't it.
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89	It's not the town's shallow faith that ruins them, but their inability to ''question'' and re-interpret their faith. Everyone in the series ends up going into one of two extremes: attempts at hyper-faith, which minimize their deviation from Orthodox Christianity only to quickly veer out of control as they are mindlessly taken to their logical conclusion (a core staple of Orel's PureIsNotGood [[ALessonLearnedTooWell hijinks]] up to and including ''attempting to murder his brother for God''), or faking it, in which they pretend to be faithful, even to themselves, but cannot believe that they can hold themselves up to the ridiculously stagnant church standards while keeping their own social standing (Clay especially, and pretty much everyone else).
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91	Most importantly, the town is paralyzed with an inability to admit they have a problem, blaming religion for showing them the right path and acting surprised when life doesn't follow the script.
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93	[[WMG: The series takes place in a world that is standard-cartoon wacky, but Moralton has isolated itself to the point of being just plain crazy.]]
94	Running off the fact that ''a caveman was cryogenically frozen inside a block of ice in the mid-America'', the setting itself may be Gumball or Bojack-Horseman levels of wacky, but Moralton has isolated itself so thoroughly that the only time we question the physics and history of the setting is during that one episode. Talking animals and animate-inanimate objects are never seen because they're either ousted by the racist community or outright ''lynched offscreen'', the local news channels are intentionally self-sustaining to prevent news from the outside world from trickling in, and technology has been stuck in the 1950's while the timeline is actually between 2000-2010.
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96	[[WMG: Clay was fully gay with compulsive heterosexuality, not bisexual.]]
97	Throughout the show, he expresses a genuine distaste for woman, especially Bloberta. He didn’t want to marry anyone in general, perhaps because homosexual marriage was illegal at the time, and very shamed, especially in Fundamentalist Christianity. It is common for gay people to feel forced or pressure to hide their sexuality especially in Christian cultures. Because of heteronormativity, he might be unaware of this feelings in the first place, until he meets Coach Stopframe. In Nature, he compares woman to his alcohol addiction, perhaps showing he feels forced to be attracted to them. Although he slept with female strippers in season 2, it should be noted this could be a result of societal conditioning and compulsive heterosexually. It should be noted that his experiences with his mother might also leave him with complex feelings around woman in general, especially motherly figures.
98	* Alternatively, Clay is demisexual; a form of sexuality where one is asexual until they develop a serious emotional bond with another person, in which case they develop SingleTargetSexuality.
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100	[[WMG: The Lord's Greatest Gift and God's Chef are CanonDiscontinuity.]]
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102	[[WMG: The Figurellis are mixed race.]]
103	Specifically, Italian and Black.
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105	[[WMG: Moralton is a cult.]]
106	There's no TV or anything. The timeline is the present, but they still dress as if it's the 50s.

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