Line #219 WMG/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit


1	[[WMG: The reason why when the perp is deemed "Not Guilty" they are murdered at the conclusion of the episode]]
2	In case of a "Not Guilty" verdict or a mistrial, the DA mentally conditions victims and their families to murder the perp if he walks.
3	"In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit. These are their stories."
4	That statement is pumped through every courthouse at above the limit of human hearing constantly at every trial. Sometimes the DA will recite this phrase to the intended mark. The conditioning is complete when the person hears the "Doing Doing" they are activated and commit murder.
5	This is shown in the episode "Possessed".
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8	[[WMG: SVU takes place in a alternate universe New York ala ComicBook/SinCity or [[Franchise/TheDCU modern Earth-1 New York]]]]
9	This theory makes perfect sense.
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11	For years, as both a serious commentary and a sarcastic joke, fans, critics, and casual viewers have said that the number of extreme sexual crimes in the [[TheVerse SVUniverse]] was ridiculous and probably higher then the entire national high crime average of the RealLife entire continental United States. A few years later, this was backed up by RealLife Statistics from the FBI and several other law enforcement agencies. [[note]] In case you are wondering, RealLife NYC has a murder rate of about 500 a year and 843 forcible rapes a year.[[/note]]
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13	Therefore, SVU (and by extension the entire universe of Law & Order) takes place in an alternate nightmarish universe where there really are THAT many excessively violent criminals and predators in the world. SVU's version of NYC is only slightly less evil than Frank Miller's ''Sin City'', with significantly more sex but fewer gang fights and public shootings.
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15	Mayor Rudy Giuliani is frequently mentioned in the show, but it appears that the [=SVUniverse's=] version of him couldn't fight the city's tidal wave of extreme brutal perversion.
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17	Basically, all New York City has a molester or serial killer on every corner and a rapist in literally every dark alley backway, possibly literally hiding in packs.
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19	This doesn't explain why the [=SVUnit=], especially in later seasons when the really violent criminals started showing four or five an episode, isn't made a better-armed and -protected Tactical SWAT Team-like squad/outfit. Then again, with this sort and type of crime rate, the city probably can't get the money in the budget for that.
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21	The crime rate is similar to that of Creator/DCComics's Metropolis and Gotham City of the 1930s and 40s. Thus, the [=SVUniverse=] is a possible "real life" version/basis/Hypertime version of Earth-1 and its fictional east coast supercities. After all, in the earliest issues of Franchise/{{Superman}} and Franchise/{{Batman}}, their respective cities were "dens of corruption" where extreme forms of criminality and violence ran so rampant that only a superpowered or super intelligent crimefighter could stop them.
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23	Essentially, if the show continues as long as its parent series, by its finale either New York City or New York State will be nearly 2/3 empty: most of its population (not counting criminals from out of town or state) would be incarcerated, and as the crime rates escalated, the remainder of the populace would have left for safer cities and countries, leaving the city nearly deserted, leaving only officers Stabler and Benson to turn the lights off when they leave or move to greener pastures, which leads us to this doozy...
24	* Important detail: the vast majority of rapes are never reported. Perhaps the difference in the statistic isn't that there's more rape, but that SVU is just that damn good at their job. Perhaps the number isn't any different, the skill and care of SVU is just that much above our real police.
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26	[[WMG: SVU New York is the Prison Colony from ''Film/EscapeFromNewYork''!!]]
27	That makes sense too since SVU New York (City or State) would be essentially abandoned and most of the State's prisons full up there would be reason to turn all that empty space into something more practical also by the time it happened enough of the TwentyMinutesInTheFuture timeline of the film would have passed to coincide.
28	* And Fin is The Duke.
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30	[[WMG: Merritt Rook will be back]]
31	Come on now, a Main/GodModeSue like him has all sorts of tricks up his sleeve and then some. [[spoiler:He got away and they Main/NeverFoundTheBody.]] Also, he's Creator/RobinWilliams. He's coming back, [[ThisIsForEmphasisBitch bitches]].
32	* This brings up a question: "When he comes back, will everyone at SVU and the DA's office still have an IdiotBall glued to their hands, like during his first appearance?"
33	* Unfortunately, due to the untimely passing of Robin Williams, this will never happen now (unless they recast with another actor and explain it via plastic surgery?).
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35	[[WMG: The special victims unit is really a team of serial killers with Cragen being the dominant one]]
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37	Think about it how many times on this show have suspects died while members of the SVU were around, while they might clam it was self defense because they did not know that the brightly colored gun the man had was fake or that the person committed suicide with a small knife he brought with him into interrogation, but there are too many bodies for it to be a coincidence
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39	They do not always kill the perps themselves and a lot of times will just put them in situations it is unlikely they will survive like telling a grieving borderline homicidal parent where the suspect will be or putting them in general population and telling the other convicts they rape children. They believe their actions are justified because the people they target are sex offenders and RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil even if they do occasionally kill an innocent man.
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41	They might not have started out as killers but SVU is extremely mentally draining and after seeing a few perps walk and getting away with accidently killing a few they decided to combine two to make sure the guilty party suffers. The killings started shortly after Wrong is Right when they all admitted to wanting to kill suspects after Elliot was put under psychological monitoring for his homicidal urges but Cragen convinced the board that he could handle him.
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43	Captain Don Cragen is the dominant member of the group he arranges for the kills and covers up for the SVU detectives if they are found out, but he douse not get his hands dirty.
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45	Eliot Stabler is the main killer he has admitted to wanting to kill offenders before and has "accidentally" done it a number of times because he thinks it has to be done. He has well known anger issues and because of his loyalty he is kept in the SVU
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47	Olivia Benson is more stable and keeps Eliot on a leash so he will not go off, but she is also a killer and if the situation calls for it she can be just as bad, but usually in a roundabout way now directly attacking the person. She knows to much to leave even after it becomes personal for her
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49	Odafin Tutuola is violent like Elliot but a calmer personally, he has a black and white view of morality that lends itself well to killers, he douse not exactly like the job and at one time wanting to transfer but because he can dispense justice he stays in the SVU
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51	John Munch is not a killer and originally stayed around to try and stop Elliot and Fin from killing and even got promoted to sergeant in an attempt to get away from them but he knows too much and Cragen will not let him transfer out. He is now just sitting back trying to avoid the hits and waiting for the moment to either permanently leave or testify against them.
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53	Chester Lake was already a killer before joining and because of that Cragen chose him for the team but he grow sloppy and even Cragen and Novak fixing evidence was not enough to stop him from killing a man in public
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55	Dr. George Huang is not a killer himself but is fascinated by them, he was originally investigating them for the FBI but decided that this was a rare chance to see and observe active serial killers and told the FBI they were innocent but he would stay around just in case. Because of this he gives them a clean bill of mental health which allows them to continue killing and will even compromise his methods as a dr. to keep them free, and in exchange he can study active criminals.
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57	Ken Briscoe and Monique Jeffries objected to the killings and they killed Kenny because he would have turned them in and as a warning to Monique who they gave a desk job to so she would not interfere, she was able to escape but knew she would be powerless to do anything against the rest of the SVU.
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59	The lawyers and M.E. are in on it and agree to help because they are in over their heads and believe they might be next if they refuse to help them no matter what. This is why Novak was so willing to forge evidence for Lake because she was afraid of what would happen to her if she didn’t.
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62	[[WMG: Olivia and Casey moonlight as practice heads for a barber college.]]
63	Casey gets the colourist. Olivia convinced Alex to try it once. She then spent the start of Season 5 orchestrating the whole Zapata/Valez affair just to get back at Oliva for that terrible fringe job.
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65	[[WMG: Kathy has only ever been in paid work for that one episode in Season 3.]]
66	When was the last time she and Elliot had a fight about her doing double-shifts at the hospital? Even during the [[spoiler: divorce]], there was zip on the money-problem front.
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68	[[WMG: Kathy doesn't eat when her marriage is putting her under stress.]]
69	"Burned" and "Annihilated" are probably the best examples of this.
70	* How would [[spoiler: the divorce]] affect this?
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72	[[WMG: The key to Eli's parternity lies in his hair.]]
73	Theory spawned by someone on the Creator/USANetwork forum. He's the only one with curls. He might be blonde; but Kathy and all the girls' hair is straggly to straight, even Lizzie when she was really young, Dickie has a bowl job and Elliot is balding. And Kathy never did explicitly answer Elliot's question.
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75	[[WMG: Munch is an observing psychiatrist sent by Internal Affairs to keep an eye on Stabler. ]]
76	After Stabler, an already-notoriously-violent police officer, is assigned to this delicate squad, Munch is given the task of keeping an eye on him.
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78	[[WMG: The whole thing is imagined by Olivia in a mental hospital.]]
79	She did kill her mother, and the whole series is a medication-induced daydream/hallucination/dissociative state in a secure mental facility.
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81	The colour schemes throughout the series match her moods. The other detectives are patients in the hospital, except for Elliot, who is a manifestation of all the things she feels she has missed out on -- for example, a loving father, romantic love, parenthood, etc. Cragen is an administrator, veering between immense frustration and deep empathy towards her. She imagines herself as a cop because she is getting justice/vengeance for her mother and other victims by association. Plus, she is imagining herself in power, triumphing over her confinement -- to her, the hospital feels like a prison.
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83	Overall, the show is almost always depressing because Olivia wants the people in her fantasy to feel as bad as she does, something which is often cited as a reason for rape.
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85	At first, she's on an upper like Prozac and possibly another mental stimulant, which explains all the one liners, why Elliot seems pretty content with his life, and why she doesn't appear to get any flack for wearing t-shirts to work. Although the drugs seem to be working, she goes through a number of different therapists, represented by the ADAs; none of them seem able to get her to open up about her mother beyond the bare minimum (i.e. backstory, they probably would have guessed she had an abused childhood from her medical records).
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87	Next, she gets new medication, one that has some non-threatening side-effects but not as much of a "Happy Pill" e.g. the change in hair and clothes - she's pushing the boundaries of her fantasy world. Alex becomes her permanent therapist, at least for a few years. She tries early on asking about her mother, and Olivia regresses into her daydream and has her mother suffer an accidental death, repressing the truth.
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89	About season three, her medication is diluted, and again in series four. During this, she opens up to Alex about other stuff -- for example, her relationship problems.
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91	At the start of Series 5, Alex has to leave due to extenuating circumstances that she won't tell Olivia about, intentionally leaving; possibly it was thought that Olivia needed a new doctor. Clearly, she doesn't take it very well, coming close to a psychotic break. Alex going into WitSec in her mind could represent Olivia rationalising that Alex could come back but that it's out of her hands and that she did not drive Alex away.
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93	The doctors give her a strong one-off dose of an anti-depressant. Casey replaces Alex as her therapist. After some initial friction, she connects well with her. She hears about the Eldridge case on TV and it induces a brief few minutes of lucidity where she recounts the details of the murder, conveying a lot of remorse as she goes. However, when Casey reminds her that she is not responsible for her mother's death, it's not the absolution that she wants; she retreats into her mind once more, hearing "You didn't kill your mother, Olivia."
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95	Season six is pretty much the same as those prior to Casey's arrival. But by seven, she has developed a tolerance to her current meds, so they rotate them. The new ones make her lethargic; hence, there are times when she or indeed a whole scene looks hazy, especially towards the end of the series.
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97	In eight, they move her to another hospital, saying they can help her. In her fantasy, she inverts this, believing it is they who need her help. Whatever they do to her doesn't work, so she immerses herself in the lives of the other characters until they return her. Once she's back, they change her meds again; these make her more aggressive and give her mood swings, although maybe not since in her fantasy she beats the crap out of a suspect as well as her saying that she's been alone her whole life, whereas in reality she may have just yelled at someone. However this has worn off by the end of the series and these meds seem to work for her, in the sense that she's more docile, but still not ready to be released.
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99	Nine and ten are dominated by the events of undercover, either trying to force it as far to the back of her mind as possible in reality as well as in her mind, where the idea of her imprisonment takes over, or experiencing the PTSD twofold. It most likely happened in reality, hence why the episode is so ominous the whole way through - she already knows the outcome. However, by the end of ten she has reached a plateau and is beginning to come to terms with what has happened.
100	* This would make a KICK ASS fanfiction!
101	* From now on, I will be watching the show under the assumption that this is true. It'll make it watchable again.
102	* This theory is awesome. Insane, but awesome.
103	* Would certainly explain why she always ''HAS'' to be the one who is right and never wrong. Although I would that Munch is actually a figment of her mind, but with perception on reality that he hides beneath his 'strange' conspiracies.
104	* Damn, you put a lot of thought into this.
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106	[[WMG: Stabler is abusing his own children sexually. ]]
107	All his over-the-top reactions and his violent hatred stem from his own misdeeds and the guilt he feels for them. Also explains his wife leaving him and taking the kids. The family scenes in which Stabler discusses his work while at home are particularly disturbing.
108	* No, Stabler would likely implode at that, though he might have once done so and has repressed and overcompensated so much that he now acts the way he does.
109	** Not sexually, but it's canon that he once hit one of his kids and flipped out over it, which is part of why he's so hard on anything that can be remotely seen as child abuse.
110	*** It was his oldest daughter after she spilled grape juice over a new carpet.
111	*** He also shoved his older son into a wall in the middle of a police station. Elliot's kind of an asshole where his kids are concerned.
112	* It would make more sense for him to have pedophilic urges that he constantly fights, which would explain his absolute hatred for those who act on their impulses.
113	** I smell a darkfic in the making!
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115	[[WMG: Huang is losing his marbles.]]
116	Multiple times this season, Huang, who is normally the voice of reason, has played faster and looser with the law than anyone else. He's clearly becoming too invested in these cases and will be recalled by the FBI after he screws something up royally.
117	** I get the feeling he wasn't "all there" to begin with. Seriously, he tells Benson in "Wrath" that he ''specifically'' joined the FBI to better understand the more serious nutjobs and psychopaths. In the same conversation he says a patient nearly choked him to death: "It was a close call," he describes. So far, one guy smashed his head against the wall until he fell unconscious, two chairs have been flown at him, and another guy shoved him against the interrogation room table so hard his head bled and paramedics were called. We can only guess what else has happened to him offscreen.
118	*** That explains it, then: Huang is suffering from a traumatic brain injury that took place at some point between Pique and the next episode (perhaps the aforementioned choking incident?). Hence the sudden personality change. All further injuries have only made it worse, which is what led to that whole drug detox fiasco.
119	** I've been hoping for an episode where Huang turns out to be a serial killer for ''years'' now. It just makes too much sense.
120	*** Huang does not strike me as the type that would go out and kill people he is too much of a voyeur, he is the type of person that would seek out and find a serial killer befriend him observe his behavior, maybe setup a few people for him to kill, but he would not kill them himself he is too cerebral.
121	*** Disagree. Huang seems like the kind of guy who has two sides: The perfectly put together Dr. Huang, and the unhinged George. Dr. Huang is a mild-mannered psychologist who studies rapists and serial killers because George, the other half, ''is'' a rapist/serial killer. His disturbed, fractured mind must be hidden beneath the mask of the calm, collective psychologist, lest he lose control and be forced to face the monster within. That's my AlternateCharacterInterpretation, and I'm sticking with it.
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123	Alternate reasoning: Huang is actually a [[{{Series/Hannibal}} Will Graham]] type. He can empathise with psychopaths and sociopaths, and as such has such an alien view from everyone else that he risks turning into one if he gets too close.
124	[[WMG: Big Bird will be the suspect for the series finale. Mulder and Scully will also appear.]]
125	''Series/TheXFiles'', ''Series/TheWire'', ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'', ''Series/LawAndOrder'', ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'', ''Series/SesameStreet'', and their respective spinoffs all share the same universe since Munch has appeared on each of them.
126	** The reason Munch was able to appear in them all, he's a [[Series/DoctorWho Timelord]].
127	* However when one considers the top of this page's theory and connect it along with this one its [[DudeNotFunny not really all that funny at all]] and gives it pretty strong doses of NightmareFuel and FridgeHorror if you think about it. Which pretty much means..
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129	[[WMG:''Series/SesameStreet'' exists within the Law & Order SVU universe]]
130	It goes like this ''Series/SesameStreet'' is or has a [[WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime Great Valley]] like haven/secured neighborhood for all that remains of New York City's children within the svuniverse and probably was a natural habitat for its [[{{Muppet}} non human residents]] which pretty much explains why most of its residents appear to live in blissful ignorance (at least its children and child like muppets) of the far more lethal and torturous world around them.
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132	Anyway after the sex crime rate got too high in New York Sesame Street went under some sort of martial law/lockdown order in order to protect the highest concentration of children in the city. Since the street is just a few blocks long its not too hard so heavily armed guards and roadblocks surround the neighborhood at all times which are never seen because their always just off camera and behind some of the buildings. And every once in a while either detectives Benson (whos pretty much TeamMom to most of SVU's victims) or Munch (who pretty much is the ONLY detective in SVU with a sense of humor, period.) go over to check if everyones still alright.
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134	This also explains why for most of the shows early years NO ONE ever left Sesame Street (unless they were kids who grew up, went to collage, or moved away.) as most of their supplies and food would have been delivered straight to Mr. Hoopers store. And as for the young ladies who up till current work as part time help at the store? their undercover officers who work more directly with overseeing the neighborhood and its safety. Although to think about it most of their job consists of hanging out with small children and talking with Big Bird and Elmo even in the RealLife NYPD thats still a pretty cushy gig.
135	*** This troper thinks that is disturbing on so many many many levels. you know how many children grew up on Seasame street watching SVU? Well this troper for certain. I loved PBS.....next thing you're going to tell me is that Arthur, Clifford, and other cartoon shows on PBS and it's companion stations are actually shows created by the SVU and it's associates to keep children safe. Hell that alone is nightmarish.
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137	** The very first episode of ''Sesame Street'', ever, in Nov., 1969, opened with a teacher (Gordon) at a local elementary school, walking one of the children home-- ''his'' home, not hers, without her mother's permission, and introducing her to his wife, Susan, who offers the girl milk and cookies that-- guess what?-- she just baked. Susan says she will call the girl's mother and let her know where she is, but we never actually see Susan do this. We also don't see this particular child again after this episode. Seriously, this would now be the opening of an episode of SVU. Also, because of it, the DVD for the first season of ''Sesame Street'' carries a warning that it is not suitable for small children.
138	*** Fanfic: CSI:NY, SVU, ''Sesame Street'', triple crossover, where they find the girl's body 43 years later. Susan and Gordon are the last ones to see her alive. Ernie testifies that he saw her go into the apartment, but not come out. Big Bird remembers Gordon introducing him to the girl, and that it was in the afternoon, helping to establish the timeline. In a final twist, it'll turn out the actual perp was Mr. Hooper, and if they dig up the foundation of the store, they'll find more bodies, but he was blackmailing Gordon, who was AWOL from Vietnam, so Gordon was bringing children home from school for Mr. Hooper. He didn't know he was killing them "Just" touching them, though; when Gordon found out the whole truth, he murdered Mr. Hooper in 1982. Susan had no knowledge of any of it, except that Gordon ''was'' AWOL.
139	* Alternatively however, this other theory could be the case..
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141	[[WMG: The residents of Sesame Street aren't what they seem.]]
142	They actually are aware of all that's happening outside of their street, but they themselves are either aliens or extradimensional beings who simply desire to protect children...and as such are the only reason crime doesn't get out of hands because what they actually do when not seen is executing any rapist or murderer that attempts to harm children on their street...or at least, that's the way I perceive them in this case.
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144	[[WMG: Stabler had an affair with A.D.A. Marlowe back when they were partners.]]
145	There was that odd moment when she asked Benson if she and Stabler ever hooked up, and the strange knowing look she had when Benson commented that he's married. Perhaps he was even the 'lover' she spoke of who left her because of her mastectomy. He almost looked guilty when he overheard that.
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147	[[WMG: The quality of the show is inversely proportionate to the length of Benson's hair.]]
148	Season 1 had long hair and crappy writing; seasons two through four had very short hair and a lot of great episodes, after finally GrowingTheBeard (or, more accurately, cutting the hair); seasons five and six had fluctuating lengths between a pixie cut and a shaggy style, and the episodes fluctuated between good and bad; and from season 7 onwards, she's had long hair and a lot of the episodes have been total crap.
149	* Jossed as of season 15. Benson's hair is short again but the episodes are still total crap.
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151
152	[[WMG: Elizabeth Stabler is dead]]
153	As noted under ChuckCunninghamSyndrome, both she and her sister Maureen have not been seen since Season 7 (Maureen is explainable because she's achieved her majority and has likely moved away), and far more tellingly, Dickie makes no mention of her when he complains about not having anyone his own age to talk with when he's her twin brother. It's possible that somehow, Elizabeth died for some reason (most likely an illness), and that's part of the reason that Elliot and Kathy's marriage was on the rocks-he was never there for her in her time of need, and probably was out investigating when Elizabeth died.
154	* Explains his unpopularity. Twins are usually closer than regular siblings. Her death might have affected Dickie a lot, and who would want to hang out with the depressed kid with the dead little sister?
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157	[[WMG: Elliot is, and always has been, a drug addict.]]
158	The constant sniffing, the mood swings, the PCP-esque violence, the rocky marriage...it would explain a lot.
159	* Seconded. I think a PCP habit would probably be easier to maintain since no one really seems to think of it anymore, at least not in the media. When was the last time the show had a someone jonesing for the angel dust?
160	** Oh my god, Elliot Stabler is a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer VAMPIRE!]]
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162	[[WMG: Huang has a twin brother who's also a profiler for the FBI]]
163	Consider how different he is in Pique from the rest of the episodes. I think he wasn't feeling well that day, or was busy, and thus did a Twin Switch with an unnamed brother. Then he switched in, explained that the FBI confused them and he was the one who was supposed to profile for them, and there you go.
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165	[[WMG: The next season will feature Elliot and Olivia going undercover to catch a litterbug]]
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167	Lately, 25% of the episodes have had Elliot and Olivia going undercover, 25% have had cases that were not special victims cases, and 25% had both. As they run out of plot ideas this season, a man will be suspected of raping a woman, but they won't be able to arrest him, so they'll go undercover to catch him, only to find that his only criminal activity is littering. This will lead them to a group that litters compulsively. They will stay with the case in order to catch those darned litterbugs.
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169	[[WMG: Craigen or Stabler has naked pictures of the Chief of Detectives or another high up official]]
170	How else do you explain all the crap they get away with? Like in Baggage they assault a man, denied him his constitution right to an attorney, and drive him to suicide with a small knife they conveniently forgot to take away from him. All this happens while the Chief of D’s is in the building and complaining about them, yet he ends up doing nothing to them. Craigen tries to justify this by saying all One PP cares about are results and not how they get them but considering all the laws they break there has to be another reason the SVU hardly ever get in trouble for their actions.
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172	[[WMG:The entire series is bad police procedural fanfiction being written by somebody that has never been in law enforcement.]]
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174	How else can they explain why laws are routinely flouted or broken,suspect are coerced into confessions which would useless in a court of law,why police procedures are routinely ignored w/ little or no punishment (or prosecution)and how Stabler and Benson can not only defy their commanding officer but yell and scream at him while doing so?
175	Given that their behavior in most episodes after Season 1 would have resulted in both Stabler and Benson being removed from the Special Victims Unit and probably removed from the NYPD,they continue soldiering into new areas of lawlessness and incompetence.
176	Since the viewers are expected to LIKE these characters despite their numerous flaws and shoddy police work, this can only be the work of a fan fiction writer that knows little or nothing of police work.Perhaps it's a web series.
177	** A court/legal proceeding show that routinely ignores the law and features weirdly incapable protagonists who still manage to get the job done every time? SVU takes place in the same universe as [[VisualNovel/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]].
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179	[[WMG: Cragen is a 6-year-old with Progeria]]
180	It explains all of his idiot decisions.
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182	[[WMG: Huang is a eunuch]]
183	ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.
184	* You are so mean.
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186	[[WMG: Cragen has replaced pretty much every member of the team, other than Stabler, with physical duplicates at various points throughout the series.]]
187	It explains the drastic personality changes, and why Stabler is getting more and more neurotic. Along with replacing all of his superiors every time his unit screws up, thus wiping the slate clean, he's also done the following:
188	* Huang was the first to go. He only made it through Pique before he was replaced. Cragen did so because the original Huang was creepy as hell, but found that he enjoyed it so much that he started replacing people for evil instead of good.
189	* Alex was supposed to be next, but Cragen accidentally botched it and had to use the duplicate he created for that female rapist from an earlier season, hence Novak's arrival on the show. Alex had to go into hiding because she knew too much and feared Cragen would kill her to keep her silent. Later, he would replace Novak for one episode with a duplicate who wasn't a hardass about mental illness (in ''Blind''), but accidentally killed her, forcing him to return the original for a little while. He replaced her with a second duplicate in ''Cold'', who promptly got herself fired. He finally got around to making an Alex-duplicate, but gave up on making any more after she left the unit.
190	* Both Munch and Fin were replaced circa season 6. The duplicates hate their jobs, and often skip work, which is why we see less and less of them.
191	* Benson was replaced in season 7. The duplicate was overly-emotional, had difficulty getting along with Stabler and lacked the fem-balls awesomeness that the original Olivia possessed. Eventually, Olivia-2 got so annoying that she was sent away to another unit for a bit, then killed and replaced with Olivia-3, who was slightly less whiny and managed to get along with Stabler... most of the time. She still lacked the fem-balls, though. After she was sexually assaulted, Cragen replaced her ''again'', which is how her PTSD magically disappeared after only a few episodes. Thus, Olivia-4 made her debut.
192	* Stuckey was replaced because he was too annoying, but Cragen unknowingly had his duplicate-making machine set to evil.
193	* Dani, Marlowe, Lake and Greylek were never replaced because Cragen didn't have enough resources at the time, what with all the Olivia duplicates he went through.
194	* Stabler hasn't been replaced, hence his personality being more or less the same. All of the random personality changes have him on edge, however, which is exacerbating his pre-existing anger issues.
195	* Cragen never got around to making duplicates for Jeffries and Cassidy because he accidentally replaced himself with a duplicate, who is unaware that either ever existed.
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197	* I think this could be considered Canon.
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199	[[WMG: Stabler and Freakshow (from Film/HaroldAndKumarGoToWhiteCastle) are the same person.]]
200	Freakshow is Stabler 10 years in the future, after he finally has a mental breakdown.
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202	[[WMG: All of the weird characterization mentioned on this page and the 'Just Bugs Me' page is actually foreshadowing for the EPIC final episode of SVU, in which almost all of the main characters are driven over the edge, killed or both.]]
203	* Huang, after the numerous head injuries described earlier on the page, loses it and becomes a serial killer who gets off on raping and murdering [=ADAs=]. He's already killed one woman (Marlowe, hence her unexplained disappearance) in the past, but has fought his urges since then, until a final head injury destroys his ability to control his actions. His second target is Casey Novak, who has taken to living on the streets because she can't find work. His next target is Alex, who has just returned to the US.
204	* The loss of Alex drives Olivia to go after Huang without backup. Unfortunately, her plan isn't so successful, as confronting him sets off her PTSD and leads to a HeroicBSOD. Huang rapes and murders her.
205	* Huang kidnaps Fin's son, blackmailing Fin into murdering Stabler. Unfortunately, Fin is unsuccessful in his assassination attempt. As he lies dying, he tells Elliot everything. Leading to:
206	* Elliot is finally driven to the boiling point because of the loss of his long-time partner. He tracks down Huang and beats him to death, years and years of pent up rage finally coming out in the form of a violent ass-whooping. The police eventually show up to arrest him, dragging Elliot off to jail. As he sits in his cell, he looks out into the prison to see all of the perps he's collared over the years grinning at him, waiting for a chance to get their hands on him...
207	* Cragen, completely broken down by all of this, returns to alcoholism.
208	* Munch quits police work for good, retiring for real this time. In an ironic twist of fate, he is the only member of the cast to maintain his sanity, despite his ranting and raving about the government over the years.
209	* Except for maybe the Olivia thing that sounds awesome
210	Sounds like a fan-fiction to me!
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212
213	[[WMG: The SVU is actually stuck in a ''[[TabletopGame/{{Ravenloft}} Ravenloft]]''-style EpiphanicPrison.]]
214	Hence the completely CrapsackWorld and our Cowboy-slash-Rabid Cops sticking around for so long. If they actually [[AesopAmnesia learned from their mistakes]] and made an effort to [[CharacterDevelopment become better people]] instead of giving into to [[ItsPersonal their personal demons]], they could escape... Instead, they [[EvilIsEasy do what comes easiest]] and call it justice.
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216	[[WMG: George is now an SVU writer]]
217	The episode "Gray" was written by George Huang. I think we all know what's going on here.
218	Sometime during the last episodes, George got tired of Elliot's asshattery. He and Elliot then had angry sex, with George dominating Elliot from the bottom, but oh noes! Elliot went back to Kathy without a word.
219	Frustrated beyond belief, George put in his transfer request with the FBI. But theeeen, they said he had to stay in NYC to keep and eye on the SVU detectives, because the FBI is watching them for their dirty practices (especially the crap they pulled in Baggage, which would have gotten them arrested in real life.)
220	George finally faked a bout of psychotic depression, which got him kicked out of the FBI until he could get it together. Curious about what new career to pursue, he started writing fanfiction for fandoms such as Mulan, M. Butterfly, and Oz. Deciding he liked it, he submitted an application to the writers of Law and Order: SVU, because his knowledge of sex crimes and the legal and medical aftereffects was needed. He was hired a few weeks ago and is enjoying his new status. He is sure to exaggerate Elliot's character to be a total douche, as revenge for Elliot, well, being a douche.
221
222	[[WMG: Cragen is Stabler's real father.]]
223	This is why he lets Stabler get away with so much crap, and went out of his way to defend him after the season one psych. analysis fiasco, all the while tossing poor Jeffries to the wolves.
224
225	[[WMG: In the SVU verse, it is not against the law for a woman to sexually assualt a man]]
226	In one episode, a women drugs men and shocks them with cattle prods to make them ejaculate so she can collect their sperm. As pointed out on the JBM page, she is not arrested for this. In a much more recent episode, a woman anal rapes two men as revenge for having been raped by them when she was younger. She too, is not charged for this and the team focus on why she did it. Clearly, the SVU world is even more Crapsack then first thought.
227
228	[[WMG: Dana Lewis will actually kill Elliot Stabler.]]
229	Mainly by accident, but also by virtue of the fact that [[RunningGag every time they run into each other, he winds up getting hurt]]. Olivia will have a hard time reconciling her need to get revenge for her slain partner with [[StrawFeminist her inability to accept that]] [[TheUnfairSex women can commit crimes too]].
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231	[[WMG: Jack [=McCoy=] invalidated Dr. Huang's marriage in the ''Law & Order'' episode "Gov Love."]]
232	For the first five seasons of SVU (1999-2004), George wore a wedding ring during every appearance. Since he clearly stated that he was gay, not bisexual, and he's a psychiatrist, it's highly unlikely that he would have been married to a woman. The L&O episode that invalidated multiple gay marriages happened in 2004--the same year that George stopped wearing a wedding ring. This would explain why he is occasionally willing to go against the DA's office, and why he dislikes Elliot so much, as Elliot and Jack have some of the same crusader-like tendencies.
233	* You, my friend, are a fucking GENIUS. I always wanted to find an explanation for the wedding ring that fit well in canon, and the only one I ever managed to do was him being married to a woman because he hadn't realized his sexual orientation yet- but I don't like the idea much. This idea makes so much more sense, though. :)
234	** I'll second that. When I first noticed the ring (in a rerun), I figured it was some retconning after Wong came out. But I remembered the episode "Inheritance," and that Huang speaks Chinese, so I thought maybe he just married someone to help he stay in the US.
235
236	[[WMG: SVU is set in the same universe as ''ComicBoo/JudgeDredd''.]]
237	And Stabler is a relative of Dredd. C'mon, just compare the [[LanternJawOfJustice chins]]. It would also explain how they can go for days without sleep: They have a sleep machine in the office.
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239	[[WMG: Elliot is [[Series/{{Oz}} Chris Keller]] under an assumed name.]]
240
241	He escaped through the morgue after faking his death; he planned the escape in case he ever became absolutely sure that Toby would never love him again. The real Elliot Stabler was killed in action while in the Marines; Keller just happened to be in the right place at the right time for someone to recognize "him" and bring him home. He felt it was his only chance to make a new start, so joined the police force in order to protect himself from ever going back to prison. That's why he has anger problems, and why he has a difficult time with Kathy-- she's not really ''his'' wife. In the episode where Lee Tergesen appeared as the killer of the day, he recognized Toby, but realized that after being paroled and changing his name to distance himself from his time in Oz, Toby had lost his mind, and he prayed with him that way as a way to say goodbye without saying goodbye.
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244	* In response to the above poster, I too believe that Elliot Stabler is Chris Keller from Oz. However, rather than escaping, Keller, who if I remember correctly was facing the death penalty for his role in Schillinger's death, took advantage of an obscure law on the book and decided to "take the black" ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. As there is no more Night Watch in the 20th century he being a multiple rapist, murderer, and sexual predator was assigned, after intense therapy with Dr. Huang, to the SVU unit to atone for his past crimes. In regards to the above poster, he was given the identity of dead marine Elliot Stabler and his family. This explains why in one episode when Elliot went undercover as a rapist on parole to catch a sexual predator, Huang was worried that Elliot was getting too into his character and his "Keller" person would return.
245
246	[[WMG: One of the Detctives has a Manga/{{Death Note}}]]
247	What else explains why the perp/suspect ends up dead so often?
248
249	[[WMG: Interrogations are not taped in the L&O Universe.]]
250	Either that or the NYPD "disappear" all interrogation videos. Otherwise every single interrogation where Stabler tortures/assaults the suspect would be shown in court and wreck the entire case.
251
252	[[WMG: Elliot is going to abuse Little Eli, and end up an SVU perp.]]
253
254	Without his job to give him an avenue to work out his aggressions, Elliot will become increasingly frustrated and hostile while he tries to find a way to support his family. Since he'd never hit a woman and Dickie will have moved out of the house/enlisted in the military, his youngest child will become the only acceptable target in the house. Eventually, it'll get back to SVU, and Elliot will be on the other side of the two-way mirror...
255
256	[[WMG: The series will end thus: with the ''entire SVU'' on trial.]]
257
258	Not literally, but figuratively. As a more realistic alternative to the above theories, in the last two minutes of the penultimate episode, Olivia and Haden will be called to the precinct with the news that a known child molester has been beaten to death in cold blood, and they have the suspect in custody. The suspect turns out to be Stabler. The series finale covers his trial, and his defense is essentially that the years upon years he spent in the SVU, witnessing atrocity after atrocity, combined with the relentless and sometimes improbable drama that was his home life, pushed him to the breaking point. Stabler is found guilty, but committed to a mental institution for an indeterminate period of time, with Huang assigned to oversee his treatment. In the final scene, Olivia hands in her resignation. Cut, print. CHUNG CHUNG!!
259
260	[[WMG: Psychologically, Stabler is a pedophile who may or may not have acted on his urges. ]]
261
262	His violence and crusading against other pedophiles is a product of his own self-loathing. Note that when he was sent undercover to more or less entrap a convicted sex offender who had just been released from prison, he played the role almost ''too'' well.
263
264	[[WMG: When the events of ''Series/{{Revolution}}'' occurred, New York City became a very different place.]]
265
266	In that show, people suddenly without a job had to escape the cities to survive. Interestingly enough, the blackout caused therapists and child services to vanish right off the face of the earth. Assuming that the cast survived, they would have to find alternative ways to handle their issues...not to mention the various bandits and goons who engage in rape and pedophilia.
267
268	[[WMG: In the SVUniverse, anger is directly proportional with fertility.]]
269
270	Ragebots Elliot and Nick, both with an extremely disproportionate chance of conceiving with every heterosexual encounter
271
272	Sometimes angry but usually cool characters with only one child: Melinda, Fin
273
274	Chill characters with no children: Cragen ({{DependingOnTheWriter}}), George, Munch
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276
277	Exceptions include Casey, Alex, and Rafael, who fit the “generally chill but usually angry” pattern but have no kids. However, their impulse to try and hold back on their anger for professionalism’s sake might inhibit their fertility.
278
279	Amanda is emotional but often in other ways to anger, giving her the same fertility as the chill characters.
280
281	Olivia is often furious but has no biological children, but she might have had some other issue preventing her from conceiving that even a Hulk-esque fit of rage couldn’t overcome.
282
283	[[WMG: Declan's new assignment is deep-cover within the [[Series/{{Gotham}} GCPD]]]]
284
285	[[WMG: ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' and ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'' are not in the same universe.]]
286
287	Although back in 1999 with the ending of ''Homicide'' and the start of ''SVU'', the show was ostensibly a vehicle/spin-off for Detective-turned-Sergeant John Munch, this is no longer the case.
288	** The increasing [[{{Retcon}} flimsiness]] of his storylines/past (him apparently growing up in a apartment on the East Side instead of in Baltimore, various people in his life have been mysteriously [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome dropped]] and [[RememberTheNewGuy added]], like his brother and his Uncle, respectively, etc.)
289	** The nasty habit of actors from both shows being [[YouLookFamiliar rotated over and over again]], even ''[[ContinuitySnarl established]]'' [[ContinuitySnarl previous characters]]. (Creator/AndreBraugher playing someone ''other'' than [[EnsembleDarkhorse Pembleton]], and he only was in a handful of episodes? How dare they?! Plus, Munch's line of "[[WhamLine You look familiar]]" to him wasn't necessary and looked as a knock to [[TakeThatAudience any]] ''[[TakeThatAudience HLOTS]]'' [[TakeThatAudience fans]] [[ArmedWithCanon or their writers]].) To say nothing of Stabler, who apparently used to work as a bounty hunter from Miami...
290	** Also, the lack of almost none of the characters from the previous show are included or are mentioned by name save for his ex, Gwen (who apparently is now mentally ill) and Lewis, who only appeared once and wasn't/isn't nearly as popular as Pembleton.
291	** The fact that he's no longer on the show after years of being DemotedToExtra makes you wonder why it was even considered in the same universe in the first place. At this point, the show is about as connected to ''Homicide'' as it is to ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent''!
292
293	[[WMG: Stabler becomes a VigilanteMan after [[TurnInYourBadge putting in his papers]].]]
294
295	After signing off, Stabler becomes [[BloodKnight unable to cope with not brutalising rapists]] so he goes out and begins a one man crusade against sexual offenders who have thus far escaped the law. Eventually, his activities will result in the SVU investigating the death of a rapist which will force Olivia to chose between her loyalty to her job or to her old partner.
296
297	[[WMG: Elliott Stabler was created as a TakeThat to [[Series/LawAndOrder Mike Logan.]]]]
298
299	And by greater extension, to Logan's actor, Chris Noth. After the ''very'' bad blood between the actor and Creator/DickWolf that resulted in the former's firing, he then created a character that was like Logan ([[CowboyCop renegade cop]] with a [[HairTriggerTemper hair-trigger temper]] who was raised Catholic, etc.), but whose traits were taken up to eleven as a [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] version of him who was younger, more handsome, had more questionable, barely legal behavior that blurred the lines, and even looked similar to him (albeit unlike Logan, Stabler is HappilyMarried with children). Hell, the first few seasons of the series, he was even credited as "''Chris'' Meloni" before going on to be credited as "Christopher".
300
301	[[WMG: ''Series/BlueBloods'' is the unofficial ''Law and Order: Special Victims Unit'' Guest Star Alumni Association.]]
302	* Think about it. Over 80% of the regulars and semi-regulars on ''Blue Bloods'' (the only exceptions are Creator/TomSelleck, Creator/DonnieWahlberg, Bridget Moynahan, and Sami Gayle) each put in at least one appearance on ''SVU'' before the end of Season 7.
303
304	[[WMG: Ellie Porter lied about her parents being deceased because of Sheila.]]
305	On the surface, one could simply say that Ellie was ashamed of what her life had become and did not want her family to know. Further, it is easy to infer that guilt and shame and grief drove Sheila to break over her grandson Noah and wanted to redeem herself for failing Ellie. But perhaps an alternate interpretation is in order. Sheila had no problem playing everyone in her efforts to keep Noah, including her co-conspirator, Olivia and Noah. Remember, the man she persuaded to kidnap Noah would not only be left to face charges and prison time, but other prisoners who would only want to know he took a child. So perhaps she was always like she was shown to be during the kidnapping, and once in NYC, even facing life as a prostitute, Ellie would have rather never seen her mother again, so controlling and demanding was she.
306
307	[[WMG: Lynda Carter's character of Lorraine Dillon is in fact...]]
308	... Bobbi Jo from 'Bobbi Jo and the Outlaw', released after decades in prison for her crimes (well she sure as hell ISN'T Wonder Woman!).
309
310	[[WMG: Alex Cabot will represent the parents is 'Waste' (S4 Ep8) pro bono in the custody hearing]]
311	In the final scene the dying billionaire applies for custody of the child resulting from his forcible impregnation of their daughter who is in a coma, intending to use the stem cells to try to cure his condition. Cabot will make a deal with his lawyers allowing him to harvest the cells but give them their grandchild and financially support him or her.
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