Line #114 WMG/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya


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3	[[AC:Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya]]
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6	[[WMG: Kiritsugu ''killed'' the Einzbern family.]]
7	They aren't just depowered in this AlternateUniverse, according to Irisviel when Chloe asks if she could go join them, they're ''gone.'' In the original ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' verse, they were strong enough to hide Illya and keep Kiritsugu completely away; while lying to Illya about Kiritsugu. In this universe; they didn't have the same power but they still threatened Kiritsugu's family. ....this was a bad idea. He and Iris stay away from Illya to prevent fallout from other mage families affecting her.
8	* In addition, in the original ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' they managed to hide Illya because Kiritsugu was critically weakened by Angra Mainyu. However since Kiritsugu in this verse is obviously healthy it's likely he went full Magus Killer on their ass.
9	* Confirmed.
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11	[[WMG: Sudden drops in magic power are partially because of Zeltrech's Gem Sword]]
12	From time to time, characters comment on how a magical attack isn't ''nearly'' as strong as it was a few panels ago. This is because Zeltrech's Gem Sword, which drains {{mana}} from its alternates in other universes is doing its thing in AnotherDimension. Kaleido Ruby and Kaleido Sapphire being components, and having no problems at all firing gobs and gobs of ''{{mana}}'' are prime targets.
13	* Partially true, it's less because of the Gem Sword (Due to the fact that Second Magic gives theoretically unlimited mana) And more the fact that Illya and Miyu are still limited by how much mana their bodies and magic circuits can handle. [[spoiler: Which is a good reason why Zwei Form is a DeadlyUpgrade.]]
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15	[[WMG: The series is set after a ''successful'' [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Holy Grail War]]]]
16	One where ''Illya'' got her wish. In the Illya route in which this occurs, the only survivors were Shirou and Illya herself; Illya, wishing them both to be happy, created a new universe where [[LighterAndSofter everybody didn't have horrible backstories]], and all the dead people, well, ''weren't dead''. The new universe contained many of the concepts of the old, in new forms. In the process, she sealed away both her and Shirou's memories, and entrusted their guardianship to her creepy maids.
17	* Which means basically that the Grail Conduit wished for the power to keep existing; thus Illya retains a connection to the Akasha. Normally the Wish would be able to handle this; but the rule-breaking aspects of the Kaleidostick are massively screwing with this.
18	** TheCorruption of Angra Manyu had to be sealed away into the Cards.
19	*** So very close. It's [[spoiler: The result of Illya's parents saying "screw it" to the Holy Grail War to begin with, and sealing the power so it doesn't wake up. However, being connected to the Akasha did give them the power to grant Wishes still]]. Of course, this reality could have been created through TimeTravel via the above theory.
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21	[[WMG: [[spoiler: Black Illya is to Illya as Archer is to Shirou]]]]
22	She came from the future where Illya is able to fully utilize the [[spoiler:power mentioned by Sella to be sealed inside her 10 years ago. It causes problems for her in her future and she somehow dies in a fashion similar to aforementioned hero with a tragedy to boot. She was then summoned by the Archer card as a Heroic Spirit and tries to kill Illya and stop the tragedy from happening.]] She also came to love Miyu, thus her lack of embarrassment from kissing Miyu to drain her mana, [[strike:possibly]] enjoying it.
23	* She obviously also still has a thing for Shirou.
24	** [[spoiler:Jossed. Chloe is born from Illya's memories when she was 8 month old.]]
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26	[[WMG: [[spoiler: Black Illya]] is actually the Illya from the doujin Sword Dancers]]
27	I mean, look at the resemblance!
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29	[[WMG: Heroic Spirit EMIYA will show up]]
30	Because this storyline needs more GAR.
31	* Isn't Chloe effectively EMIYA in Illya's body? Not that I'd complain if EMIYA showed up, too.
32	** [[spoiler:EMIYA Shirou of Miyu's Verse, who was once the wielder of the EMIYA!Archer card, finally shows up in 3rei, bringing a lot of GAR-ness.]]
33	** Perhaps the 3rei movie will have the "gang", so to speak, fail at something, thereby causing Alaya to summon EMIYA to fix it, and possibly causing a great deal of Shenanigans.
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35	[[WMG: the reason Luvia was quick to take Miyu in is because she always wanted a sister]]
36	If you know about the Edelfelt Family in fate you know their special power is the ability to have two children and have both children inherent their family Crest. yet we never see or hear of luvia having a sister and her family it is normal to have one. she tries to fill that void by [[ReplacementGoldfish taking]] Miyu in and spoiling her just like how she would imagine doing so with her own sister if she had one.
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38	[[WMG: Miyu is a magical copy of Shirou's biological sister and Homunculi]]
39	After Kaleidoscope Ruby sought out Illya; Luvia ''Edelfelt'' realized that Kaleidoscope Sapphire was going to do the same thing. Instead of just finding out who it picked and bullying them; she got a little proactive. She created a being with the aspects that Sapphire would most be attracted to; and programmed her to obey her. The person she based the [[OurHomunculiAreDifferent Homunculus]] on was randomly one of the people who died in the fire that made Shirou an orphan. When she realized just who she copied; she told Miyu not to tell Shirou. Shirou has amnesia of his life before the fire; and this was the age his sister was when she died.
40	* Black Illya does tell Miyu that her existence is similar to her own; born of magic.
41	** Of course, this means her lifespan should be ''very'' short; but chances are this series will find a way to fix that.
42	*** Revision! [[spoiler: Miyu's brother is the Shirou from her AlternateUniverse. Nevertheless her counterpart in the Prisma-verse (and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'') was also likely Shirou's sister before the fire.]]
43	*** [[spoiler: Fridge Horror: She probably didn't survive the Fuyuki Fire]]
44	** Jossed as of 3rei. [[spoiler:Miyu was an unrelated person to Shirou, being a Child of God named Miyu Satsuki. She was adopted by Kiritsugu, but only REALLY became Shirou's biological sister when she unconsciously used her last wish to become so.]]
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46	[[WMG: Illya was the vessel for the [[Literature/FateZero Fourth Grail War]].]]
47	For some reason, the souls of the defeated servants was transferred to Illya instead of Irie, and she become the vessel. Thankfully, Kiritsugu managed to kill Kotomine after the great fire, win the war and had the Mage Association save the barely alive Illya and dismantle the Grail. Unfortunately, remnants of the grail and its corruption still reside in Illya, so her parents search for a permanent solution across the world, leaving her under the care of her Homonculi maids and a survivor of the great fire that they had just adopted.
48	* Possibly confirmed.
49	* Except it isn't the Fourth Grail War it is in fact the the first and only Grail War but was stopped by Kiritsugu and Irisviel so they wont sacrifice their daughter Illya. Irisviel sealed the original Illya personality, the mage part, but it was not erased as she thought thus we got Chloe as another personality in Illya similar to Shiki Ryougi. Till Chloe manifested herself with the Ainsworth version of the Dress of Heaven, the Class Card Archer.
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51	[[WMG: Illya was to serve the same function as Justeaze Lizrich von Einzbern]]
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53	Justeaze Lizrich von Einzbern became the core of the Greater Grail the Key to the Ritual, Heavens Feel. Irisviel revealed to Illya she was to be the Key to the Ritual. Caren Hortensia said the Holy Grail meaning the Lesser Grail sleeps inside Mount Enzou. The cave inside Mt. Enzou is the location of the Greater Grail in FSN. The Greater Grail is the wish granting machine connected to Akasha. But since the Holy Grail War occurred only once then the container of the Holy Grail should be cup like the first to third Fuyuki Holy Grail War. Only in the Fourth Fuyuki Grail War did the Einzbern first use a Homunculus as a mobile container.
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55	Illya's and Chloe's wish granting power is the result of being partly the core of Greater Grail. This does give Illya access to Akasha thus much of her Mana is the result of her possessing Third Magic.
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57	Kiritsugu and Irisviel rebelled against the Einzbern as they do not want to lose their daughter. Thus Illya was not sacrificed the same way Justeaze was to the Greater Grail.
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59	[[WMG: Black Illya is the same Illya Archer knew during his life time.]]
60	We know that Illya died a year after the war in Archer's time, but perhaps Shirou tried to save her life by transffering some his power to her. This caused her to begin exhibiting powerful projection abilities and her skin turned darker (like what later happened to EMIYA). At some time before she died she used these abilities to do something incredibly badass that ended up netting her a place in the Throne of Heroes until she some how got dragged into this reality. This of course means that if Heroic Spirit Emiya shows up later in accordance with the above we can be expecting a [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments a very touching reunion]].
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62	[[WMG: Sakura will play a role in the third story-arc.]]
63	Sakura will show up as a [[DarkMagicalGirl Dark Magical Girl]] rival to the heroes a la [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Fate Testarossa]], and she will have her [[CursedWithAwesome shadow powers]] and [[GoodThingYouCanHeal obscene healing factor]]. She will eventually get "befriended" by Illya, will become a permananent resident of Shirou's harem, and the people who manipulated and tortured her into doing what she did will get their comeuppance. A possible Kaleid Liner Prism Illya 3rei! in a nutshell.
64	* And Counter Guardian EMIYA shows up as well, to make the story even more badass.
65	* Well, Sakura indeed has appeared in an {{Omake}}, but we'll have to see if she's only a one-chapter character or will become an recurring character.
66	** [[spoiler: Ainsworth!Sakura has the Berserker!Lancelot Class Card installed.]]
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68	[[WMG: Matou Zouken created the cards.]]
69	In the classic Fate timeline, he is the one that created all of the servant-binding spells, including the class system. So it makes sense that he made the class cards in this one. This could be relevant if combined with the above theory, as Matou Sakura might be able to use the cards in some special twisted way.
70	* Jossed, the cards [[spoiler: Are from the Alternate Universe.]]
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72	[[WMG:Miyu's brother is the BigBad]]
73	Major spoilers for the end of 2wei.
74	There are heavy implications that Miyu's brother is someone very similar to Shirou. [[spoiler: And with revelation that Miyu is from an [[AlternateUniverse parallel world]], it is possible her brother IS (an alternative) Shirou]]
75	Therefore it is possible that Miyu's brother is the Shirou who wants everyone to be happy. So [[spoiler: 'his last wish' to Miyu for her to escape to another world where she can be happy and not suffering]], is actually a GambitRoulette like [[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle Fei Wong Reed]] that [[spoiler: Miyu travel to another world and learns happiness]] and then he will use her experience with happiness [[spoiler: and her role as a Holy Grail Vessel]] to wish for EVERYONE to be happy!
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77	After all, in ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'', the preview to 2nd season of Phantasmoon hints of Shirou as the Big Bad, it was actually foreshadowing to Prisma Illya.
78	* [[spoiler: Miyu's brother is Shirou in her world, he's in a cell by the Ainsworth's and tortured. If this WMG is true then he's very sneaky.]]
79	* [[spoiler: Jossed. Miyuverse!Shirou is actually fighting against the real BigBad, the Ainsworths.]]
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81	[[WMG: Rin and Luvia being chosen to wield the Kaleidosticks in the beginning was Zeltrech being a {{Troll}}]]
82	Who in their right mind would think those two would be able to work together? In what universe is that even possible. So why did he do it? Well, this troper has heard Zeltrech is pretty awesome, so I figure he somehow knew that better candidates would be living in Fuyuki, and sent them there knowing that the Sticks would eventually ditch them. He then sits back and watches the two screw around and gets some laughs in the process.
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84	[[WMG: Rin's parents don't know she is in Japan cause she doesn't want them too]]
85	Seeing that there is no Grail war, Tokiomi and Aoi should be alive and well. Sakura also doesn't seem to be Rin's sister here either. Rin comes from a fairly wealthy Mage family so why is she willing to work for Luvia who she hates? Rin dislikes the spoiled rotten attention she gets from her parents being thier only child. However either Aoi or Tokiomi will catch wind that thier precious daughter is working as a maid for one of thier biggest rivals... Hilarity ensues!
86	* Actually, Sakura probably is Rin's sister in the Illyaverse as well, judging by (Illyaverse!)Rin's reaction to Miyuverse!Shirou's report of Miyuverse!Sakura's [[FateWorseThanDeath horrible fate.]]
87	* In addition, the thoughts of Tokiomi and Aoi actually carry Sakura around (since Rin is pretty much on her own after she got admitted to the Clock Tower) is funny on itself.
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89
90	[[WMG: Rin, Sakura and Illya will all get a big damn Heroes rescue by their appropriate Father figure!]]
91	Rin will be saved by her Dad, Sakura by Kariya, and Woe to the poor fool who tries to take Kiritsugu's baby girl!
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93	[[WMG: Parallel World Shirou will teach Chloe Unlimited Blade Works]]
94	Now that they've been sent to an alternate dimension in Drei, some things are going to be different. IF this world's Shirou is alive, then he may be able to show Chloe the true abilities of the hero EMIYA. She'll also probably have her own custom invocation related to her existence and/or ThePowerOfFriendship.
95	** Possible. [[spoiler: If they can break him out of his prison though. The possible part comes from his appearance, even though it was very short: Patch of dark skin, a few strands of white hair...]]
96	*** Turns out that it's even easier than that. [[spoiler: Chloe's thoughts suggest that she's learning how to use her class card just by seeing him fight. Not that he has the prana to use UBW right now.]]
97	*** Arguably unlikely. Even though Chloe is in possession of the Archer EMIYA Class Card, and thus all of EMIYA's powers, the fundamentals of a Reality Marble would not allow her to use Unlimited Blade Works. A Reality Marble is a projection of the user's inner world, the manifestation of their soul on the world. Every user of Unlimited Blade Works has a different version of it because they are different people, but they are all at their core Shirou Emiya, a sword incarnate that fights to protect and save others. While Chloe does posses the powers of EMIYA, she is a fundamentally different person with a dissimilar soul, so she probably doesn't even have basis for what is need for Unlimited Blade Works.
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99	[[WMG: Parallel World Shirou is a lolicon]]
100	Because hell, it might be true.
101	* [[spoiler: Considering that Shirou speaks of a need to have a serious talk with Miyu about decency when he sees her... less than modest magical girl outfit, I'd say it's likely jossed.]]
102
103	[[WMG: Parallel World Shirou is a womanizer]]
104	Following that the parallel world is a reflection of Illya's world, the blind and dense Shirou would be one hell of a [[TheCasanova Casanova]].
105
106	[[WMG: Shirou isn't as unaware of magic as he lets on]]
107	It's just that Kiritsugu has told him to keep it a secret from everybody. After all, Shirou ''is'' the eldest child in a mage family, so it's plausible that he'd actually have learned at least that magic exists from his father.
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109	[[WMG: Beatrice's Beserker install power is Thor]]
110	Beatrice's install formed gave her a massive Hammer which is Mjonir, She is able to increase the size of her limbs, Thor had to shapeshift so he could be with his giantess lover, and when She and the Other girl appeared A Bolt of lightning took the group down but the other girl didn't have a spirit installed since she turns into a female Gilgamesh upon landing!
111	* Confirmed
112	** Jossed, it's actually Magni; Thor's half-human son.
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114	[[WMG: All the Ainsworth servant cards will be Heroic Spirits that would be broken by all other Grail war standards]]
115	Let's see Ainsworth Archer was Gilgamesh. Ainsworth Berserker is Thor. Karna is the most likely pick for Ainsworth Lancer. Sun Wukong would be a good guess for Ainsworth Rider due to his unique way of traveling, Cloud walking. Leaving only, The Saber, Assassin and Caster classes without a real guess.
116	* Thor being a Grail War candidate is ''very'' strange; as a "pure" PhysicalGod being a Servant is unheard of. (''VideoGame/FateExtra'' was different.) Even Gilgamesh comments that there's something screwy about that. Explained, it's actually Magni.
117	** Lancelot is the Ainsworth Berserker card. [[spoiler: Sakura Matou]] has it installed. ''She took Shirou's Overedge!Bakuya.'' Lancelot's Noble Phantasm ''Eternal Arms Mastership'' lets her use any weapon at the level of a master.
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119	[[WMG: Being corrupted through the Class Card shook Gilgamesh up more than he let's on.]]
120	Not even the [[Literature/FateZero Corrupted]] [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Holy Grail]] was able to turn him mindless. This combined with Angelica taking half of his prided treasury; he's actually feeling...vulnerable. He doesn't like it. He'll never SHOW this though.
121	* Ironically, his dark side being "killed" has given him a push towards being more sociable.
122	** Maybe Jossed? [[spoiler: Part of the process of making Cards is the complete quashing of the personality of the hero. Gil is clearly incredibly pleased with himself that he alone could resist this partially. The weakened ego is most likely the reason that the corruption and the theft of the treasury was even possible, though.]]
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124	[[WMG: Shirou IS the Archer Card.]]
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126	Shirou sent HIMSELF alongside [[spoiler:Miyu]] as the Archer Card. This is why there are two Archer cards and is why Shirou, apparently strong enough to hold off the Ainsworths and send her into another world (the same scale of power as the Second Magic), is reduced to (seemingly) normal in [[spoiler:their prison]].
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128	This may also be the reason why Illya was separated from Chloe when entering the alternate world, to prevent Chloe and Shirou meeting during the Ainsworth infiltration arc.
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130	When Chloe and Shirou meet, he'll eventually take his power back to become EMIYA and rescue his sister with everyone's help.
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132	* Jossed. They're now fighting side by side.
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134	[[WMG: Darius is using Miyu's Holy Grail function to change history; giving power to the Ainsworth family.]]
135	Which is why the Ainsworth's aren't heard of in any other dimension. This is also includes things like making DayOldLegend Noble Phantasms that not even Gilgamesh has heard of; as well as making Thor a "historical" (and probably related to the Ainsworths) figure as well as a Norse god; thus making his power accessible to Class Cards.
136	* In short; he's literally turning his AlternateUniverse into a SelfInsertFic using RealityWarping.
137	* Confirmed in Chapter 48 of 3rei, as shown that [[spoiler: Darius was able to manipulate the nature of the myth of Pandora's Box]].
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139	[[WMG: Miyu's world is [[spoiler:either an earlier past of Notes or Fate/Extra or Tsuki no Sango]]]]
140	[[spoiler: In chaper 17 it is revealed the true goal of the Ainsworth is to used the grail to save the world. Like the world of Notes and Fate/Extra the world is dying. There is a severe mana depletion also animals and plants are dying like in Notes and Fate/Extra. The Earth like in Fate/Extra and Tsuki no Sango is out of axis. There is a shift in the poles.]]
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142	[[WMG:Parallel Shirou was the wielder of the EMIYA!Archer card]]
143	The previous user of the Archer card was stated to be a sniper. As evidenced by Extra!Archer, there's been at least one Parallel Shirou that's a sniper.
144	Plus, soul contamination would explain why Parallel!Shirou has some traits of EMIYA.
145	* [[spoiler:Confirmed. In chapter 25, Beatrice outright states that the Archer Card was Shirou's. The EMIYA traits however, probably stem from overusing Projection.]]
146
147	[[WMG:Irisviel is trying to set up Shirou with Illya and/or Sella]]
148	Having tasted Shirou's amazing cooking, Irisviel does not want to lose the constant availability of EX-rank flavors. Therefore she is trying to set up Shirou with either his adoptive sister or Sella so he remains in the household. That's part of the reason Irisviel modified a board-game to get Sella (and Leysritt) into revealing maid costumes.
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150	[[WMG:Miyu is the daughter of Kiritsugu and Maiya]]
151	She has the jaded personality that they both share (although that might just be a product of living in her crappy world), it would fit with why she considers Parallel Shirou her brother, and she sort of looks like a child of theirs might look. Possibly Kiritsugu was preparing her as the Grail as part of his plan in whatever analogue Miyu's world had to the Grail War, seeing as how the Einzberns seem to be missing or at least uninvolved with Kiritsugu there. When he learned it wouldn't work because of Avenger, he left instructions to Shirou to get her out of there.
152	* Jossed as of 3rei. [[spoiler:Miyu originated from an unrelated magic-using family, the Satsukis, and was only adopted by Kiritsugu, like Shirou.]]
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154	[[WMG:Tanaka is a puppet made by the Aozaki sisters]]
155	Tokou's puppet bodies are virtually indistinguishable from human bodies, and Aoko has a magic circuit capable of harnessing tremendous amounts of power. She is also able to make things indestructible.
156
157	[[WMG:The Mysterious Object is [[VideoGame/FateExtra Moon Cell's Angelica Cage (SE.RA.PH)]]]]
158	Not only it looks like it, but given the fact that SE.RA.PH's system is similar to Akasha in the terms of holding the "stores and archives" of all human history and is also responsible for the summoning of the Heroic Spirits. And now that somehow, Julian got his hand on SE.RA.PH and later corrupt it, the Object summons corrupted Heroic Spirits.
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160	* Jossed. [[spoiler: The Object is actually a ''pithos'' which is a different name for ''Pandora's Box'']]
161
162	[[WMG:Tanaka is actually an Alter Ego or AI from Moon Cell]]
163	Because this Mysterious Object (most likely be SE.RA.PH) has fallen in the hands of Julius, Moon Cell being aware of its danger sends out its
164	AI or Alter Ego of itself with its task to free the Angelica Cage from the Ainsworth family.
165	* Jossed
166
167	[[WMG: If Miyu didn't exist, then Kaleido Sapphire would have gone to Sakura Matou]]
168	The Makiri was also one of the founding mage families. While Miyu was the Holy Grail Container in the world she came from, Zouken also made Sakura an artificial Grail via his worm familiars, making her another candidate for the stick alongside Illya. Not forgetting to mention the fact that Sakura is Rin's biological sister, and she has a crush on Illya's brother Shirou, seeing her in a maid costume under Luvia's employ would've been hilarious for Shirou and Rin's reactions.
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170	[[WMG: Tanaka is a [[spoiler: Hindu Deity]]]]
171	During the final fight against the Ainsworths in 2wei, Tanaka saved them by launching a sword that [[spoiler: killed all the corrupted heroic spirits.]]
172	Erika referred to that sword as the "Arrow of Fire." A quick google search about such a legend is linked to [[spoiler: the Hindu God Shiva manifesting as Tripurantaka.]]
173	* Jossed, albeit the fire sword isn't really explained.
174
175	[[WMG: Dress of Heaven will be featured in Prisma Illya]]
176
177	[[WMG: [[spoiler: Miyuverse!Shirou's Unlimited Blade Works]] has a star-filled sky]]
178	* In reference to the starry sky under which Miyu wished to become Shirou's real sister.
179	** Jossed. It's a field of snow.
180
181	[[WMG: Nanaki's sister, moriym Nanami is ManipulativeBastard]]
182	Although it is one sided view from Rin and Luvia, [[http://www.mangahere.co/manga/fate_kaleid_liner_prisma_illya_drei/c016.6/14.html Nanami]] [[DoesNotKnowHisOwnStrength unconsciously break a glass]] after she got Gandr to the face indicating she is more fit than she lets you know. Shiro is ObliviousToLove ChickMagnet. Go figure.
183
184	[[WMG: Illya and Kuro/Chloe will fuse back into one person]]
185	As Kuro is originally a part of Illya, and she can only maintain her existence with the Archer card and frequent prana exchange rituals, it makes sense that eventually there will come a point where she won't be able or won't want to maintain her existence anymore. At that point, Illya and Kuro will perform some kind of FusionDance, and the resulting Illya will be a composite of the two characters that bears more resemblance to the Illya we know from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.
186
187	[[WMG: Darius is [[spoiler:the Matou Zouken / Makiri Zolgen of the Miyuverse]]]]
188	Based on some recent revelations from Chapter 44 of 3rei, the Ainsworth family succession is anything but the standard that proper/orthodox magi follow.
189
190	Instead, [[spoiler:the original family head, Darius, effectively possesses the male heirs of each succeeding generation; such was the case with Julian's own father, Zachary (thus explaining the previous incongruity), and presumably the same with Julian himself, now.]]
191
192	[[WMG: Tanaka is [[spoiler: Pandora]]]]
193	[[spoiler: Darius wants to open Pandora's Box but Pandora refuse to follow his plan, so he altered the grail from summoning servants to summon cards but Pandora ended up like Kid Gilgamesh.]]
194
195	* Jossed. [[spoiler: it was actually Erika who is to be turned to be Pandora, possibly by way of using a Caster Class Card since Rin hypothesized that Darius once were able to create it in the past. ]]
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197	[[WMG: Tanaka is [[spoiler: an Ether Liner]]]]
198	Her physical descriptions and actions match most of what has been described as an [[Literature/AngelNotes Ether Liner]], like [[spoiler: shapeshifting limbs that can turn into weapons.]]
199	* Jossed
200
201	[[WMG: Illya will double install a Berserker card on top of Heracles and get [[Literature/FateStrangeFake Alcides]]]]
202
203	[[WMG: The entire series was masterminded by Miyuverse EMIYA]]
204	It explains a lot. Such as why would EMIYA help Miyuverse Shirou. EMIYA knew all along about Shirou's wish and that Miyu would end up in Illya's world and he knew that the Ainsworth's would follow and get everyone mixed up. Kuro is EMIYA's avatar, a way for him to observe the situation without anyone knowing the wiser if not an unintentional fusion of EMIYA and holy grail Illya.
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206	[[WMG: Kuro retains Illya's magic circuits while Illya kept her mana reserves when they were split.]]
207	It's why Kuro needs Illya to provide her with prana. Originally before Kuro, Illya seemed capable of doing a lot of heavy magic (like her first install with the Archer card) but after she split with Kuro, while she still has a respectable number of magic circuits, the lion's share went to Kuro. Theoretically, if she had all of her magic circuits, she might have been able to do her Zwei form safer. Illya's body still stores and regenerates large amounts of mana but doesn't have the magic circuits to use it in large amounts without overloading her circuits whereas Kuro might not have any mana reserves or very little and needs to replenish them from other sources.
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209	[[WMG: The giant black cube contains [[spoiler:either [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Angra Mainyu]] or [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder Tiamat]]]].]]
210	'''Huge spoilers''' for those not up to date on ''PRISMA✩ILLYA'', ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'', '''especially''' if you're only watching the [[Anime/FateGrandOrderAbsoluteDemonicFrontBabylonia the Babylonia anime]] and have not played through/watched the game's version of events.
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212	Got that? Good. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.
213
214	[[spoiler:As of now, we know that Erika is actually Pandora, and the giant black cube is her titular Box. In the original legend, the Box contains all of humanity's evils and disasters, but in this story it's pointed out that the tale of Pandora's Box has always been abstract, i.e. "a disaster to one person could seem like a blessing to someone else". The Box in this story also produces "Grail Mud", which is awfully strange for something that supposedly has no connection to the Holy Grail - hence why it's possible for it to be containing Angra Mainyu, the original evil facet of the Holy Grail. He/It would fit the "all of humanity's evils" criteria for the original Pandora's Box legend, and if the blessings and curses are subjective, then to DeathSeeker Pandora the release of Angra Mainyu would definitely be a blessing.]]
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216	[[spoiler:Alternatively, for anyone familiar with the events of the Babylonia Singularity in ''Fate/Grand Order'', there is ''one'' other being that produces "Grail Mud" - Tiamat, in the form of her Chaos Tide. Tiamat is the Primordial Mother, having [[TheMaker created all life]], but was sealed away by her offspring because she could essentially ''overwrite'' the world they'd built for themselves. In ''PRISMA✩ILLYA'''s continuity, the gods created Pandora as the key to her Box and told her to open it on the day the world ended. If Tiamat is sealed in Pandora's Box, then breaking the seal while life still thrived would obviously be disastrous. But if life was going extinct (like it is in the Miyuverse right now), then it would only make too much sense to open the box and release Tiamat to reset the world, so by that point it would be a good thing.]]
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218	[[spoiler:I'm personally hoping for Tiamat because I feel like Angra Mainyu would be too obvious, but this might be crossing some religious wires since Pandora's Box is a Greek mythos and Tiamat is Mesopotamian mythos.]]
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220	[[WMG: Tanaka is a [[Literature/AngelNotes Liner.]]]]
221	It's in the title of the show, after all. She has a demonic sword formed from her arm, after all. How she got in Miyu's world is unknown.
222	* Jossed. [[spoiler:Tanaka is manifestation of Gaia's Counter Force.]]
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224	[[WMG: Instead of Unlimited Blade Works, Kuro will learn to use Unlimited Lost Works.]]
225	Before the final battle, the Miyuverse Shiro gave Kuro one of the Origin Bullets from Kiritsugu’s Thompson Contender. In Fate/Grand Order, we learned that EMIYA Alter essentially created Unlimited Lost Works by combining his sword projections with the Origin Shot, and now Kuro is poised to do the same thing.
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227	[[WMG:Illya is HopeBringer]]
228	Illya will save word because she is idealistic, optimistic and never give up. In short she have HOPE. It isn't cliche it is brilliant writing using myths like Fate I tend to.[[spoiler: What is in Pandora box except for plagues? Hope and it was never released in Miyuverse. World is literally hopeless.]]

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