Line #102 WMG/ExcelSaga


1	[[WMG:The ''Excel Saga'' universe is a battleground between Koshi Rikdo and Nabeshin, both of whom are sadistic gods fighting for the right to control the world.]]
2	Actually, hang on... It's true. Sort of.
3	* But isn't the war already over? At the beginning of each episode he tells signs the disclaimer telling everyone he can't complain about the anime's content. So Rikdo and Nabeshin each have their own territories in the Excel Saga universe, but the̮̠͔̭̦y share an animosity towards each other despite the clear cut borders between their worlds. Also, Nabeshin's first episode of anime? Sending Excel to kill Rikdo, in the ultimate ironic death. Twice.
4	** You could take this further, saying That Man is Rikdo in disguise. Think about it. Rikdo doesn't show up in the actual episodes beyond the first. Why? He can't bilocate. His presence is taken up in pretending to be That Man.
5	** Alternately, one could say that Koshi Rikdo and Nabeshin are the men behind Kabapu and Il Palazzo, respectively. Koshi and Kabapu wish for order and to maintain the status quo. Il Palazzo and Nabeshin wish to brong about a new order, or to rewrite the history of the manga.
6	[[WMG:Everything but the first three minutes and the last one minute is Excel's near-death experience.]]
7	Let's see: Excel carelessly runs out of the school, gets hit by a bus, and only when she's near death does all the zaniness begin, starting with the appearance of the Great Will of the Macrocosm (a subconscious manifestation of Excel's desire to stay alive). It takes her several tries just to convince herself that she's alive (which is why she dies so often in the first episode compared to the subsequent ones), and after that, to somehow make a ridiculous sort of sense out of it, she imagines herself as a character in a wacky TV show -- which ends with her, as well as the whole world, engulfed in blood, representing her true death and acceptance of it. The final scene with Nabeshin, Rikdo and the marriage also occurs for real, and reveals what happened to people that imprinted in Excel's memory and became the creators of her imaginary show.
8	* Actually it makes sense. In the end, as Excel is drowning in blood she desperately reaches out not for Great Will of the Macrocosm, but for Ilpalazzo (who may be her subconscious representation of God), and he doesn't pull her up, just shows his approval of her end.
9	* Well, if you count hitting people so hard they fly to the sky as Zanyness, it had begun before the crash. But still.
10	* So...Excel's subconscious manifestation of her desire to live is having an affair with...what, her subconscious desire to be a working class foreigner with a happy family? ...which appears because she cracked while studying for her college entrance exams! That almost makes sense!
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12	[[WMG:Excel was college bound but cracked while studying for her entrance exams]]
13	This was mentioned in the translator's notes as his personal theory. His evidence was the occasional scientific fact that Excel carelessly tossed out, such as being unable to open a flooded lair door due to a pressure differential.
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15	[[WMG:Excel is the princess of Solaria]]
16	In the manga continuity, Kabapu mentions that only the princess of Solaria can enter the Ruin (presumably existing under Il Palazzo's base), and because of this he has sealed her in Ropponmatsu's core. However, Il Palazzo has called Ropponmatsu "fake", and in a very early in the manga shown to be intigrued by Excel's ability to open a particular door inside the base, though the readers never get to see what's inside.
17	* But then why does Il Palazzo treat Excel so shabbily if she is that important?
18	** Some sort of amnesia. If, as stated elsewhere on the wiki, his "multiple personalities" are actually simply memories coming and going, he may simply not remember Excel's importance most of the time.
19	** Alternatively, he's trying to activate some sort of ability triggered by stress.
20	** I'm thinking that as "fake" as Ropponmatsu is, the ruler inside the core is still "real-er" than... whatever Excel is. A clone? The shell left behind after the ruler was sealed inside the core? She doesn't have those cat-eyes, which might either be a genetic cloning defect or a trait of the royal family. Excel's flashbacks imply a close relationship between him and Il Palazzo, and her most recent memory loss as Teriha also suggests that the Excel personality is somehow artificial. It might be some kind of love-hate thing - Excel is the closest thing Il Palazzo has to her princess, but he knows that she can never be the real deal. Another, a lot simpler explanation (corollary to the one two steps above this) is that Il Palazzo is just batshit fucking ''insane''.
21	*** No, it's beacuse [[DeusExMachina The Great Will of the Macrocosim would instantly put the story back on track no matter what.]]
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23	[[WMG:Miwa is Tenmangu]]
24	* Throwing in another one of the most popular fan theories. Twenty years ago, Miwa died, and overcome with grief Tenmangu's response was to "disappear" by planting his brain in a cybernetic body modeled after her. Fair enough, the "Miwa dying" part is only derived from Kabapu's comment that she had been ill when he first met the "changed" Miwa, and the fact that it's a lot easier to keep this kind of scheme going when you don't have conceal the fact that there are two Miwas now. The hints in favor of this are so abundant that it's going to be a bigger surprise if it turns out she ''isn't'' him. Even Shiouji seems to consider this possibility.
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26	[[WMG:Hyatt is a vampire]]
27	While she throws up more blood than she ingests, it has been shown (in the manga) that drinking blood actually heals her temporary death for awhile! Also, she has demonstrated some pretty extreme regenerative ability, up and including being burned crispy, only for the burnt parts to shed off and reveal perfectly smooth skin underneath.
28	* There's a precedent in the anime Karin, which get this: stars a vampire who ''produces and expels'' blood when under stress.
29	** In at least one instance in the manga Excel comes to the same conclusion. It wouldn't be the first time Rikdo's included vital plot revelations concealed within a joke...
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31	[[WMG:Excel Saga takes place in the world of TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}]]
32	Excel is a Zenith caste solar, hence her unstoppable nature. Hyatt is a Midnight caste abyssal, hence regenerating from deadly wounds with lots of gore, and creating zombies. Her sickness is resonance. Il Palazzo is a death lord. That guy with the mustache is a bronze faction sidereal. And the civil servants are Dragon Blooded, hence why the one guy can communicate without speaking, but still in words.
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34	[[WMG:There Is Something Seriously Wrong With Excel's Knees.]]
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36	I mean, ''look'' at her legs!
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38	[[WMG:Excel Saga is really ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain'']]
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40	Excel is Pinky, and Il Pallazo is the Brain. Hyatt is Larry.
41	* So, does that mean Elgala is ''Elmira''?
42	** Yeah, and the Puchuu King is Snowball.
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44	[[WMG:Excel Saga occurs during the Instrumentality]]
45	It's an attempt by [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] to invent a world that is the exact opposite of his life, thus Excel's gender, actually liking his mysterious lord (..a bit too much), and the general wacky unreality of the city.
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47	He can't stop parts leaking through, though. While Hyatt started out as he wanted, she quickly developed elements of Rei; Ilpalazzo secretly doesn't care about her at all, and it all breaks down towards the end.
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49	Not to mention a Red Sea covering the entire planet at the end.
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51	[[WMG: Kabapu and Il Palazzo are playing with one another. All of this is nothing more than a vast game]]
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53	Their both immortal. Both have too much time on their hands. So each takes a turn ruling/trying to conquer the city. Kabapu started out running the city and Il Palazzo wanted to conquer it. As of the latest manga volume the roles are reversed (We've even seen Il Palazzo doing Kabapu style things like having secret meeting with corrupt officials). The reason Il Palazzo abandoned the real Excel is that he means for her to become to Kabapu what she once was for him. But as we've seen before he can't cope without his underlings around and so took Ropponmatsu to compensate himself.
54	And Il Palazzo's comments about how the game "Doesn't go on forever" is a worrying bit of foreshadowing that he means to destroy the modern world as Solaria was destroyed 4000 years ago
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56	[[WMG: Il Palazzo is Shiouji's father]]
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58	I don't really have that much going for this one, Kabapu's sudden interest in where Shiouji's father disappeared to seems start at around the same time he begins obsessing over Il Palazzo's return. Furthermore volume 12 ends with him making the comment "He could be anywhere in the world, he could even be nearby" before immediately cutting to Il Palazzo being mysterious. Would explain said father's affinity for Solaran technology.
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60	[[WMG:Hyatt is Nancy from ''Anime/ReadOrDie'']]
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62	Just look at their outfits...
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64	The illness and difference in personality could be explained by [[spoiler:Nancy II's near-death experience]] at the end of the ''Anime/ReadOrDie'' OVA.
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66	[[WMG:Hyatt is [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Juushiro Ukitake]]'s long lost sister.]]
67	[[strike:Who else in anime coughs up blood randomly?]] Screw that theory, I have a better one:
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69	[[WMG:Hyatt is [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Hayate Gekko]]'s long lost sister.]]
70	* Hyatt. Hayate. Both have tuberculosis. It makes sense.
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72	[[WMG:Excel is insane.]]
73	In my opinion, Excel Saga was about an insane protagonist, and the point of the series was showing her insanity. All those totally insane things that happened? All in her head, as she descends ever further into madness.
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75	[[WMG: Excel and Il Palazzo are AlternateUniverse [[Manga/DeathNote Misa and Light]] ]]
76	Il Palazzo and Light both want to create and reign over the perfect world and Excel and Misa are their [[TheDitz ditzy]], [[GenkiGirl enthusiastic]] followers, who are helplessly in love with them.
77	Il Palazzo has to use different, because there are no Shinigami, and therefore no Death Notes in the Excel universe, but he has similar convictions.
78	Also the lyrics of Ai (Chuuseishin) describe Misas situation perfectly:
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80	-> ''This isn't love''
81	-> ''Love isn't this''
82	-> ''I am in love, but I am not loved''
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84	-> (...)
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86	-> ''People go their own ways''
87	-> ''This is probably for his sake''
88	-> ''I won't ask for anything in return''
89	-> ''My loyalty is deeper than love''
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91	-> ''I might fall down and die, and I might drown''
92	-> ''But everything's for his sake''
93	-> ''I might be an idiot, I might be a fool, but I don't care''
94	-> ''This is a loyalty you might call love.''
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96	[[WMG: Excel eventually dies for real, develops intellect and changes her name to Rangiku. ]]
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98	She also meets a man who reminds her of Ilpalazzo and befriends him.
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100	[[WMG: Alternatively, she becomes a Shinigami... ]]
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102	...called Rem and ends up meeting the certain person, who reminds her of herself.
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