Line #90 WMG/DumbingOfAge


1	[[WMG: One of the cameo characters (Mike, Roz, Amber, etc) will eventually become important in Dumbing of Age]]
2	They keep showing up in the background of strips, seemingly as Easter Eggs. But it seems odd that they'd all be at the same school (Roz has appeared in several strips in a row, so the theory works best with her).
3	** Amber just got a week of strips interacting with Danny. So...confirmed?
4	*** All three of the ones listed have become major, if not main characters.
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6	[[WMG: [[http://www.itswalky.com/d/20040331.html This will turn out to be foreshadowing for at least one DOA arc.]]]]
7	If only because someone will point it out to Willis.
8	* Joe has asked Joyce to go out on a date with her. HilarityEnsues.
9	* Joe also had sex with Roz, Robin's sister, so maybe it's related to that? Also, it's confirmed that Robin is in Congress in this universe and you have to be at least 25, so there's at least seven or eight years age difference between Robin and Joe.
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11	[[WMG: Billie will be caught with alcohol in her room]]
12	Because Dumbing takes place on a dry campus, this will lead to her getting in deep trouble.
13	* It may also coincide with some other humiliations, as her existence seems to be playing the BreakTheHaughty trope fairly straight.
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15	[[WMG: Faz and Amber know they're brother and sister in the DOA universe]]
16	Her parents are divorced, so maybe Amber's mother knew about her husband's other children. It's possible they even grew up together.
17	* It has been ''heavily'' hinted in both Faz Is Great and When It Crumbles that Faz is Blaine's biological child, through ''statutory rape of Yuri, while Blaine was still married to Stacey.''
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19	[[WMG: Amber's twin sister is Amazi-Girl]]
20	Willis claimed we wouldn't see Amazi-Girl outside her costume. At first, it seemed like he was just lying, but what if he wasn't? Amber didn't freak out when she saw Danny--only when he mentioned she reminded him of someone. Maybe she's trying to hide her sister's antics.
21	* Possibly [[http://www.shortpacked.com/2010/comic/book-12/01-dominus-jacobus/revelation/ Rose]]?
22	* Jossed. Amazi-Girl was explicitly "revealed" as Amber. Also, continuing to joke about AG being someone else is now a bannable offense in the comments section (apparently Willis was really, really tired of the gag). How Danny completely fails to realize they are the same person despite spending a lot of time with both has yet to be revealed, or just has to be filed under {{Willing Suspension Of Disbelief}} ala Clark Kent/Superman, along with the idea a 5'2" girl can beat up a gang of football jocks.
23	* Although "Not seeing Amazi-Girl outside her costume" turned out to be true, depending on your definition, when it turned out Amazi-Girl and Amber are seperate personalities.
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25	[[WMG: Walky and Joyce will get together in this universe too.]]
26	Not much support for this, I just really like Walky and Joyce as a couple.
27	* Could happen. Dorothy is trying to improve Walky for the next girl who comes along when she leaves and Joyce is liking some of these changes. Probably won't happen until their second or third year. So around the 2030-50s.
28	* WordOfGod is that one of the points of the Dumbiverse is that people aren't ''destined'' to get together,
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30	[[WMG: The Aliens do exist...]]
31	...and that cartoon is just a cover-up for them, similar to [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hungry_Dragon/ the Hungry Dragon project]] from Transformers. Maybe there are real abductees out there; they're just not the same guys as those in the main Walkyverse.
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33	[[WMG: Sarah's drug-using roommate was Guns]]
34	Willis said on Tumblr he hates Guns, and she hasn't appeared in the comic yet. So if Guns was expelled, he'd never have to include her in the comic.
35	* Jossed: it was BitCharacter Dana from a handful of ''Roomies!'' comics.
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37	[[WMG: Walky would rather have Billie as his sister than Sal]]
38	Walky makes an effort to maintain his relationship with Billie, who he says is like a sister to him, but he barely sees Sal and he never even tried to contact her while she was at boarding school. And apparently Billie had friends who bullied Walky growing up but he doesn't blame her for that.
39	* Although in the few times we've seen them interact, Walky seems to be the one who tries to initiate things with Sal, only to be shot down by her rather than the other way around.
40	** Yes, but when he's rebuffed by Sal, Walky accepts it. With Billie, he pushes the issue a little more.
41	*** He's actually had a relationship with Billie, in one way or anouther, for basically their whole lives, while Sal has been absent from his life for several years. Add in that she's somewhat bitter over Walky being the apparent favorite and it's fairly easy to see why he'd feel more of an urge to reconnect with Billie. Plus no matter what happens Sal is his sister so they always have a connection but Billie is just someone he knows so if he doesn't make the effort he will lose her.
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43	[[WMG: The new RobotGirl Ultra Car will show up, but will be 100% human]]
44	And always will have been.
45	Either way, everyone will ask if UC is/was a car/robot in this verse anyway.
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47	* Well, sort of. Ultra Car is a cartoon character in this continuity; ''Carla'' is a human and a big fan of the show. No-one's compared her to a robot yet.
48	** There is one major parallel: Carla is transgender just as Ultra Car is "transchasssis".
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50	[[WMG: Amber first donned the mask and cape as Amazi-girl in response to Ethan's parents reacting negatively to him coming out of the closet.]]
51	It probably involved some awesome Batman-esque conversation with his mother and father with a sudden disappearance when they turn away for a split second. Good thing it's in the dark though, since the costume was made on the fly in a fit of emotion. Bath towel capes and ties with hurriedly cut eye holes are not very intimidating.
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53
54	[[WMG: If Mike and Amber don't get together eventually, O will eat my own hat.]]
55	Apart from being in great favor of this ship, this troper believes Mike has a crush on Amber. Besides knowing her for a long while, and his twitter entries saying he finds short tempers sexy (which Amber has), I feel he goes the extra mile for Amber, in a way. Yes he's Tough Love with everyone, but with Amber it seems very different- my main conceit is when he finally snaps and pulls Amber away from the computer. He DOES care!! And he wants to spend time with her!!!
56	** Possibly jossed on Tumblr and the comments from the collections. Willis stated he's conciously attempting to avoid the same relationships from the other universe (Mike/Amber, Walky/Joyce, Danny/Billie, etc). But who knows if he'll stick to it.
57	** Very much Jossed, Mike had a crush on Ethan and is now dead.
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59
60	[[WMG: Amber and Sal have met before. And I don't mean at freshmen orientation.]]
61	Amber's witnessed a robbery at a convenience store.
62	Sal has done a robbery at a convenience store.
63
64	They've met.
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66	* Confirmed.
67
68	[[WMG: Walkyverse relationships will be teased but ultimately won't develop into anything serious, with possible exceptions]]
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70	* We have seen some previous relationships from the Walkyverse teased in [=DoA=], but it seems that Willis is going to put the characters on different romantic routes than their previous universe counterparts.
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72	** At some point, Walky/Joyce will be teased.
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74	** Dina/Mike and Dina/Walky may also be teased.
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76	** This one may be a shot in the dark, but I think Joe/Rachel may be teased at some point int he distant future.
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78	[[WMG: Becky has a crush on Joyce, but won't act on it because she knows where that would go.]]
79	[[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/fart-joke/ This comic, in my own opinion, seems to strongly imply as such.]] She's even looking off towards where Joyce went when she says she knows what Walky meant. However, since she knows how devout of a Christian Joyce is, she refuses to act on it because she doesn't want to lose the friendship they have.
80	* [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/jealous/ So apparently only one half of the theory is]] {{Jossed}}, and the other is confirmed.
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82	[[WMG: Becky will get a job at Galasso's Pizzeria in order to stay in Bloomington.]]
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84	* Becky can't stay in Joyce and Sarah's room forever. Willis has confirmed that Becky is now part of the main cast, so she'll stick around working at Galasso's pizza place.
85	** Adding to that, Joyce may be able to get Leslie to help out Becky, maybe even have her live with Leslie as well.
86	* Pretty much exactly on the nose, although Leslie didn't need much encouragement to help out Becky, having been in her shoes before.
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88	[[WMG: Sal will be injured to the point of critical due to Amazi-Girl]]
89	Likely due to her past embarrassing defeat, Amazi-Girl will take her game up to the next level, accidentally (or purposefully) injure Sal so badly that her survival will be in doubt. This may lead to major impacts in the cast like Walky confronting his parent's favouritism, Amber's furthering mental unbalance due to her being unsure of where she ends and Amazi-Girl begins, etc.
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91	[[WMG: Dina is actually a crosstime child of [[{{Characters/Dragaera}} Kragar the Dragonlord]]]]
92	It perfectly explains her StealthHiBye habits, her obsession with dinosaurs, and her apparent immaturity, since Dragonlords live for several thousand years.
93
94	[[WMG: Carol Brown and Ross "Toedad" [=MacIntyre=] had a torrid affair.]]
95	* Because it only adds to her moral hypocrisy and judgmentalness, and their mutual grossness.
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97	[[WMG: Hank will eventually get fed up and leave Carol.]]
98	* Between Joyce's parents, Hank is by far the kinder and more reasonable of the two. Even with his [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist beliefs and lifestyle,]] Hank has shown a flexibility that his wife utterly lacks. He was able to see Ross [=MacIntyre=] for the asshole he was, even before he pulled a gun on Becky and Joyce. Meanwhile Carol defends the man who threatened to shoot her own child. Hank acknowledges his daughter is an adult and is even willing to defer to her judgment in certain matters. Carol's response to Joyce developing opinions outside of her belief system is to try and drag her back into the fold. Hank treats Becky with kindness upon seeing her again, even if he has reservations about her sexuality. Carol treats Becky with hostility as soon as she walks in the door. Hank acknowledges that his son Jordan is a “good kid” even if they don't always agree. Carol explicitly wants to avoid another “Jordan situation” with Joyce. It's even hinted that, [[NoodleIncident whatever happened with Jordan,]] he was driven away from close association with his family due to the rigid fundamentalist beliefs that Carol clings to. Having already had one of his children alienated from him, and now facing that same possibility with Joyce (and Jocelyne if she ever comes out as trans to her parents), it's possible that Hank will decide that his love for his children is more important than keeping the peace with his wife and end the marriage or at least separate from her.
99	* Joyce has confirmed that they're now divorcing, and it seems that the kidnapping and Carol excusing it was the catalyst.
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101	[[WMG: Amazi-Girl will reach her end soon]]
102	From what we can see, Amber's losing her grip on reality, to the point that she just shifts into Amazi-Girl automatically. All it will take is just one final push to send over the edge. Not a big push, but something small like learning Walky and Sal are siblings, her dad piecing things together and setting the cops on her for assault, or some thug that prepared for her. It won't even end with a final fight with Sal: just Amber being subdued and carted off as she raves like a lunatic. And just to add insult to injury, her dad will play the whole thing for sympathy. He'll be saying to the media how the convenience store holdup and his attempts to "toughen her up" have turned his little angel into a monster, and he'll be completely accurate; no one will buy that he's abusive because the only ones who know are Amber or people that have an interest in keeping Amber out of jail. And to makes things worse, her friends are going to get hit with SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Dorothy will never get into Yale because she covered for Amber a while back, Danny and Ethan will become targets for whoever Amazi-Girl beat up, and her friends in general will become pariahs. The only silver lining to the whole thing will be that Sal and Joyce's families will see this and pay better attention to their daughters.
103	* ''Alternately, Amazi-Girl can and will return:'' Starting with When It Crumbles, Amazi-Girl and Amber have reached a truce. In Blaine's upcoming trial, Amber will sacrifice the identity of Amazi-Girl as part of her testimony against Blaine, only for Blaine to repeatedly insist that Amazi-Girl must be Rose Pepper (revealed, yet again, to be Amber's half-sister), Sal Walkerton, etc. Blaine will be carted away, raving like a lunatic, and his mafia contacts, sick of his mismanagement, will have him "dealt with" in jail. In addition, Carol will testify for Blaine, driving a wedge between herself and her husband and daughter.
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105	[[WMG: Danny will get tired of being a buttmonkey and [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere Transfer]] to a different college.]]
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107	[[WMG: At some point, the Browns will become estranged with each other.]]
108	Fact: Willis said that Joyce is autobiographical. Fact: he's estranged from his own mother. Conclusion: that's going to be worked in Joyce's storyline, and the other Browns will end up choosing sides. It's also probably going to be the first time we actually see Jordan. One side: Joyce, her dad, Jocelyn, and Jordan. On the other: her mom and John.
109	** And if I have to guess what causes it? Either finding out about Jocelyn being Jocelyn, or finding out about Joyce's near rape experience and her mom blaming Joyce for it and/or slut shaming Joyce.
110	** A third contender emerges: the kidnapping.
111	* Implied to be confirmed: when Joyce was looking at her first published strip, she notably evaded Sarah's inquiry of whether she'd send her mother a copy, and she specifically said she ''wouldn't'' get John a copy.
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113	[[WMG: Amber will be KilledOffForReal by Ryan.]]
114	Near the beginning of Book 6, Danny tries to talk Amber out of being Amazi-Girl, thinking it's too dangerous for her now. Amber doesn't listen, and eventually has a face-off with Ryan alongside Sal, a conflict that ultimately results in Ryan being exposed as a rapist via online media. Ryan isn't above rape, so it's unlikely he's above murder either. Furthermore, in several strips he can be seen stalking Dorothy in the background, Dorothy being Amber's confidant whom she plans to meet with later that night. On a side note, Dorothy is currently undergoing a character arc about realizing that she can't do everything, and that she's really not good with failure, foreshadowing the possibility that she might end up failing when it matters most.
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116	All this could very well lead up to Amber's murder by the hands of Ryan, with Dorothy failing to prevent it.
117	* [[NightmareFuel Um]]...[[spoiler: I think Amber did the murdering.]] We'll find out who's right.
118	** Well, Amber's definitely alive. [[spoiler: So is Ryan, despite Amber's best efforts.]]
119
120	[[WMG: As a result of being Outed, Robin will attempt Suicide]]
121
122	[[WMG: Sarah's plan to break up Raidah and Jacob will hit a snag.]]
123	Namely, Dana will return to college and openly admit in front of Raidah that Sarah saved her by telling her father, prompting a reluctant Raidah to apologize to Sarah. However, it will be too late for Sarah to stop Joyce and Jacob from getting smitten with each other.
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125	[[WMG: ''Dumbing'' will end with Joyce meeting the in-universe David Willis.]]
126	Who just so happened to be doing a comic on college life...
127
128	[[WMG: Mary's going to end up pregnant out of wedlock.]]
129	If anyone deserves the same fate she had in the Walkyverse, it's Mary; it's one of the more plausible things that could happen in teh Dumbiverse, and it would expose her hypocrisy again.
130	* And in the worst bit of irony, Mary is going to have to turn to Head Cheerleader Problem Solver Jennifer to sneak her into an abortion clinic.
131
132	[[WMG: Jordan is either a porn star or Chuck Tingle.]]
133	Jordan would probably do something as antithetical to fundamentalist Christianity as he has the talent for, and porn is pretty opposite to their conservatism. The Chuck Tingle idea started out as a joke on some of the comments.
134
135	[[WMG: Booster is really [[spoiler: Mike]]]]
136	Booster quickly establishes themself as someone who instantly sees people’s psychological damages and needles them. Obviously [[spoiler: Mike faked his death, told the FBI what he knew about the Korean mafia, and transitioned while getting plastic surgery.]]
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138	[[WMG: What caused Walky and Amber to break up on Halloween]]
139	Linda found out Amber's still enrolled, and also finds out there's no way to get Amber kicked out because Amber didn't do anything wrong (that the university knows about) and she's funded by a rich doctor (who knows, maybe Richard is an alumni too, and you know how much universities hate pissing off alumni). THEN she finds out Walky's dating her. Maybe she threatened to cut him off if he didn't dump her.
140	* Jossed. [[spoiler:It was a bad taste joke about Mike.]]
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142	[[WMG: Carol knew about both Joyce's potential autism and whatever condition Joyce has that got her prescribed birth control, and did not seek treatment for either.]]
143	She'd no doubt want to ignore that Joyce 'wasn't normal', and as for the latter, well, only ''sluts'' take birth control, so Joyce wasn't going to take that. (Wouldn't be shocked if there was some hypocrisy involved in the latter either, given how Carol's been hypocritical before.)
144	[[WMG: Joyce will revisit spirituality, but not as a Christian]]
145	Eventually, the angst of things feeling meaningless will get to her, and she'll seek out Buddist or Pagan spiritual teachings to help with that, reasoning that there could be something in these other traditions; no idea if it'll stick or not though.
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147	[[WMG: How Amber's paying her tuition]]
148	It was hinted in 'This Was Halloween' that it ''isn't'' her new stepfather who's funding her schooling, so there's two ideas it might be: 1) Mike's parents, as a sort of last legacy of Mike's or 2) if Blaine wasn't legally married to Yuri and he really isn't Faz's biological father, and most importantly, ''if he had no will'', the law would default to Amber as his heir, so she inherited what money he had. I prefer the latter really, cause a) it'd be a fitting bit of {{Irony}} that Blaine is still funding her schooling, the very thing he was trying to prevent, and b) it'd be a way to bring Yuri and Faz back into the storyline, if they felt cheated and might try to take it out on Amber. (Ok Faz might not care, but Yuri sure would.)
149	* Actually, this could work even if Faz is Blaine's biological son and/or Yuri was legally married to Blaine, cause they'd split the inheritance and Yuri would feel entitled to all of it.
150
151	[[WMG: Lucy will eventually take up the Amazi-Girl mantle like in Shortpacked.]]
152	Except this time she's much more enthusiastic about the prospect because she can now team up with Walky/Nightguy....at least, at ''first'' she will be enthusiastic about it.
153
154	[[WMG: Jacob is no longer Ethan's roommate and may not be enrolled in Indiana University at all.]]
155	The last time Jacob was seen was in the first semester, and even in the Ethan-centered Patreon strip set in the second semester, where he's asked by his roommate if he's going to class, the speech bubble is conveniently placed so we don't see who says it. It would be reasonable to assume that Ethan has a new roommate but why would he or Jacob ask to be transferred? The most logical explanation is Jacob is no longer enrolled at IU. It's very possible he transferred to another school entirely to get away from Raidah/Sarah/Joyce, but there's also the possibility that this Jacob has the same addictive personality as his Shortpacked counterpart, and fell into an addiction.
156	* Jossed. Jacob's finally been re-revealed.
157
158	[[WMG:Ninja Rick is present somewhere]]
159	We just haven't seen him because of his amazing ninja stealth skills.
160
161	[[WMG:Ethan will try stand-up comedy at some point]]
162	The university will have an open mike night, and Ethan will deliver a tirade about the various bullshit he's been involved in. This will get a positive reception, and he will choose a major which he can use to launch a stand-up career.
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164	[[WMG:Kaitlin will return]]
165	Her parents will kick her out of the house when they realise she's completely lesbian. Unlike Becky, she won't be lucky enough to know someone willing to give her a room, and will show up sleeping rough.
166
167	[[WMG:Mary seduced Peter into fundamentalist Christianity]]
168	[[http://www.itswalky.com/comic/not-like-that/ Apparently David Willis knew a girl who actually did that]], and Walkyverse Mary was loosely inspired by her. Plus, that is such a Mary thing to do.
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170	[[WMG:Jennifer will be DrivenToSuicide]]
171	Despite putting up an arrogant front, its made abundantly clear Jennifer is still the same deeply insecure and broken woman that Billie was, and now that Asher is having an affair with Ethan and growing tired of her treating him poorly, he's likely gonna break up with her. She'll then learn that Raidah was never her friend, but had just used her to get revenge on Sarah and Joyce, and only kept her around for her "social networking" with Asher. She'll think she has no one at that point, having drove away her old friends, no longer being in a relationship with Ruth, and end up hitting rock bottom in a downward spiral. In a dark parallel to Ruth trying to kill herself pre-{{timeskip}}, Jennifer will do the same, thinking that no one wants her and she just drove everyone away. Whether she succeeds ultimately depends on if Willis is willing to actually go through with killing her.
172	* If they do, then her death will have lasting repercussions on the narrative. Walky with have lost someone he considered a sister, Joyce will have lost someone she still considered important to her, Dorothy and Sarah may feel regret for their treatment of her and trying to keep her from Joyce, and Ruth will likely breakdown. This would also be what ends up screwing Raidah over, since people could tie her back to Jennifer's breakdown and death.

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