Line #73 WMG/Bone - TV Tropes


1	[[WMG: The Bones are all evolved incarnations from actual bones of dead dragons.]]
2	This is a theory I suddenly came up with while reading the last volumes many years ago. I really have nothing to support it, besides the fact that some of the dragons did die within the storyline's past. It would also explain the appearance of the Bones in a very logical way anyway.
3	* Support? This is Wild Mass Guessing! You don't need support! Just give us your pet theory and we're good.
4	* Actually, that would explain why the Bones can talk to animals -- it becomes clear later in the comic that most humans can't, only the ones who are particularly attuned with the Dreaming.
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6	[[WMG: Rose/Gran'ma Ben is actually an evil sociopath]]
7	Think about it. In volume 3: ''Eyes of the Storm'', Rose casually talks about how to kill a chicken and makes fun of the Bones for being squeamish about it. This might not mean anything, except that all animals in the Bone universe are intelligent and can talk.
8	* All? Not the cows, certainly, so why can't there be both sapient and non-sapient animals in the Boniverse?
9	** Ah, but the cows are obviously in on it. Their not talking is just them [[ObfuscatingStupidity playing dumb]].
10	* WordOfGod (from the letter's page, answered by Jeff Smith): "Everyone knows domesticated animals can't talk!"
11	* So basically none of this really proves she's evil or sociopathic, she was just explaining killing a certain animal for food to a bunch of "city boys"
12	* On the other hand, during the final act in Atheia, [[spoiler:Thorn asks her if she builded something for the realm when she was queen. The answer? The protective wall around Atheia. Period]]. Sounds a little paranoic.
13	* Gran'ma Ben is an old farmer. She's spent many years killing chickens by the time we see her, so she would have gotten over any qualms quite a while beforehand. And the walls? Highly practical, given that chance of military conflict was very real.
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15	[[WMG: Boneville was wiped off the map after a nuclear holocast during the time the Bone Cousins were away]]
16	Sure makes an already downer ending more downery, doesn't it?
17	* {{Jossed}}, at least if you accept ''Quest for the Spark'' and ''Tall Tales'' as canon -- Boneville is still there and the Bone cousins (and Bartleby) have become minor celebrities, even if not everyone believes their story of the Valley.
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19	[[WMG: The Bones Return to Barrelhaven]]
20	Fone bone realizes that he can't live without Thorn, Phoney gets kicked out of Boneville (again) and Smiley comes just to bug Phoney. I realize that there is no evidence or this, but dangit, I hated the ending.
21	* Again, ''Quest for the Spark'' and ''Tall Tales'' seem to have {{Jossed}} this, but you never know what might happen in the future...
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23	[[WMG: The entire Bone saga is one of Big Johnson's Tall Tales]]
24	He's telling some companions of a time when he came across a gypsy who told him about incredible feats that will be performed by his descendants in the distant future. In reality, no such meeting occurred.
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26	[[WMG: Bone exists in the WebAnimation/HomestarRunner Universe]]
27	After the Bones were run out of town, the Citizens of Boneville (who are actually the Homestar cast) changed the town's name to Free Country [=USA=]. Upon their return, the King of Town sampled some of Smiley's stuffed bread thingies and immediately launched a diplomatic mission to the valley for the sole purpose of getting the recipe. Fone and Thorn were reunited and now regularly go double-dating with Homestar and Marzipan. Strong Bad gives [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKnLBNS9jDw lectures]] to teach the technologically backwards valley-folk about the modern world.
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29	[[WMG: Phoney is the reincarnation of [[spoiler:ComicBook/{{Cerebus\|TheAardvark}}]]]]
30	Upon his death, [[spoiler:Cerebus was barred from getting into Heaven due to his misdeeds while he was still alive. His penance was to be sent to a parallel universe where he would be reborn as an orphan forced to look after his two cousins, where caring for them would pay said penance. Besides being reincarnated to a less-than-desirable situation, he now lacks the physical strength and combat expertise from his past life (although he has retained his greed, selfishness, and overall bad attitude). Upon Phoney's death, he will regain the memories of his past life and will be allowed to decide whether he wants to spend eternity in the form of Phoney or Cerebus.]]
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32	[[WMG: The Bones come from an alternate "toon world", and have somehow stumbled into a live-action Lord of the Rings esque world.]]
33	The Bones are apparently creatures that are unique while they're in the valley, but they don't make any mention of being odd back home. Also, while real world physics apply to the valley people (aort of), the Bones have shown not just disregard for physics, but downright cartoony behavior.
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35	[[WMG: The Bones are actually real people, while the valley is the fantasy world.]]
36	Think about it: disregarding the way the Bones look and their blatant cartooniness, they come from a civilized society that uses paper money, knows about nuclear power, has mayors (and I can only guess higher democratic positions), know about mythical beings from stories but have never seen them firsthand. Compare to the valley, also civilized but much more primitive, relying on a bartering system, use magic and/or manual labor to do daily work, have medieval monarchies, and have some fantasy creatures that they know of but claim that others are just fake (only to be provwn wrong). It seems to be just as much about a story of real people winding up in a fantasy land as it is of two fictional genres meeting.
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38	[[WMG: The story takes place in Fictionland.]]
39	Well, all fiction does by definition, but this one follows a glitch in Fictionland. The three Bone cousins are the stars of a cartoon series about their hijinks in Boneville. the show has a running gag: [[EveryEpisodeEnding every episode ends]] with the Bone cousins being chased out of town, returning next week for new adventures. Then one day the show gets canceled, the cousins are stuck in the vast, uncharted outlands and end up in a neighboring work of fiction - a high fantasy novel series. Their success in returning home depends on the show returning for another season.
40	** Well either that, or the show has just gained some CerebusSyndrome
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42	[[WMG: [[Manga/SoulEater Excalibur]] is a Bone.]]
43	He got kicked out of Boneville for being Excalibur.
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45	[[WMG: Thorn's father was a Pawan.]]
46	When we finally see his face, his beard is shown to be tied in a knot in the style of the men of Pawa. Has this been confirmed or denied anywhere?
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48	[[WMG: The Rat Creatures' tail-removing tradition is an allusion.]]
49	[[{{Squick}} Think about it.]]
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51	[[WMG: The two stupid Rat Creatures will eventually form a genuine friendship with the other heroes in ''Quest for the Spark'']]
52	At which point, they will be given more dignified names instead of [[spoiler:Stinky and Smelly]].
53	** Jossed. They ''do'' end up getting along reasonably well, and at the end of the story they part with the heroes on friendly terms.... but they keep the names. (They seem to like those names, though, so it's okay.)
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55	[[WMG: Rat Creatures have an adverse hormonal response to leadership.]]
56	Normal-sized Rat Creatures, as revealed by the two stupid Rat Creatures, don't get names unless they're important. Their kings and queens, meanwhile, are all horrifically engorged. We even see Kingdok grow larger over the course of the story (compare his appearance in "Out From Boneville" to "Old Man's Cave"). The Rat Creatures' current leader isn't too big yet, but he's already bigger and more monstrous than the usual sort, and might get even bigger in the future.
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58	[[WMG: Ted the Bug's species is more powerful than the average bug.]]
59	First off, Ted the Bug can talk to humans and animals alike, no matter their attunement to the Dreaming. Secondly, Ted seems to be much older than you'd expect (at least, old enough to have remembered Thorn's mother).
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61	[[WMG: Thorn is a [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Krypto]][[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} nian]].]]
62	Think about it. She starts getting new powers as the plot demands, gets SuperStrength and even flight. She's a survivor of Krypton! Hence why her powers are awakening slowly.
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64	[[WMG: Kingdok didn't personally [[spoiler:kill or eat Thorn's Parents]].]]
65	When he claimed this, he was just lying in an attempt to provoke Thorn into [[spoiler:killing him]].
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67	[[WMG: Kingdok has taken his revenge against Roque Ja.]]
68	[[spoiler:Last time we see the lion, he is slumped to the ground, completely motionless, except for the look he gives to Fone Bone, Thorn and Bartleby. When Kingdok reappears after this scene, he can speak again]]. He probably attacked Rock Jaw, heavily wounded him, regained his tongue and, somehow, fixed it.
69	** {{Jossed}} by ''Quest for the Spark'' Rock Jaw appears, none the worse for wear, in the third volume.
70	*** Just because he isn't dead, it doesn't necessarily mean he didn't receive any comeuppance whatsoever. Kingdok may have been content with just giving back some of the beating.
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72	[[WMG: Bone takes place in the same universe as {{ComicBook/TheSandman}}.]]
73	Both series have a heavy focus on dreams, and both utilize the idea that dreams can be entered into and manipulated by outside forces. The Veni-Yan monks, and Thorn herself, have access to the Dreaming; perhaps they're all descended from a dream vortex like Unity.
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75	[[WMG: Cleo and Euclid were human servants of Rose Harvestar.]]
76	They're the only domesticated animals shown to talk. It's possible they were human servants that Rose remembers as loyal dogs to soften what she had to do to Euclid. Her comment on how obedient they are when offered deer haunches was actually a comment on how fast they could get a campfire started when promised steak. They were loyal friends to the princess. When Briar suggested that Rose kill Euclid, he knelt and whispered words of forgiveness, rather than let Rose kill her sister. Cleo understood why she did it, but Rose let her go with a good letter of recommendation because the guilt made her unable to even look upon her mournful maidservant.
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78	[[WMG: Ted the Bug is actually the incarnation of another deity which is a BigGood counterpart to the Locust.]]
79	Ted knows all the valley's secrets and is friends with the Great Red Dragon, Rose, and Lucius. He always seems to be able to show up at the right place at the right time, and apparently has some magical abilities since he helped Thorn cast a protective spell while her and the Bones were hiding away. Given that he is an insect, and there is another major, powerful godlike entity who is represented as an insect, it's difficult to deny there may be more going on.
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81	[[WMG: The Bones/Fone Bone eventually returns to the Valley and ends up with Thorn.]]
82	Yes, I say this (partly) because I like the ship. But also because it would make for a fuller circle to Fone Bone's character arc. And give a happier final ending.
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84	Fone Bone and Thorn's final goodbye is short and bittersweet, and its sad that the pair is separated after everything they've gone through. But while Fone has had his feelings for Thorn be pretty clear for the viewer since the beginning.....just what or how she feels for him in return is left ambiguous. Did she eventually come to feel romantic feelings for him? Just platonic? Somewhere in between? Who knows......
85	It's because of this, and Fone Bone's greater attachment to his cousin's, that makes the ending of the comic work the way it is....not as a Goodbye Forever but as a Goodbye and See You Again Someday kind of ending. Hell, the ending reflecting the beginning with the Bones' having the same type of argument gives a very "Here we go again" sort of feeling already.
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