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2[[caption-width-right:350:''"[[MemeticMutation We're not Detroit!]]"'']]
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4->''"Every country has that one city they make fun of. In Russia, we used to make fun of Cleveland."''
5-->-- '''Yakov Smirnoff'''
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7Known in some circles as "The Mistake By The Lake" (i.e., Erie), "The Land," "The 216," or "Cleland" (locals tend to drop the V), Cleveland is one of the three "Big C's" of UsefulNotes/{{Ohio}}, along with Columbus and Cincinnati. Located on the state's northeastern coast, Cleveland was once one of the industrial boom towns that surrounded the Great Lakes in the late 19th and early 20th century and had a steel industry that rivaled UsefulNotes/{{Pittsburgh}} and UsefulNotes/{{Detroit}}. It was even briefly was the fifth-largest city in the United States. Those days are long, long gone, and Cleveland is now often considered a WretchedHive and a PlaceWorseThanDeath, and the source of a [[http://youtu.be/L_DEp1lz0CM?t=32s steaming joke]] that's been going for years. Recent polls and news articles only reinforce this image, as it was once rated the [[http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/11/americas-most-miserable-cities-business-beltway-miserable-cities.html most miserable city in America]]. It was also the original {{Trope Namer|s}} for AliensInCleveland, as the city is considered by many the image of mundane mediocrity (at best).
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9Possibly the biggest reason why this goes unchallenged is that all but the most anal-retentive of locals have a sense of humor about it -- they'll tell you ''themselves'' how Cleveland is America's down-pat worst. With brutal winters, massive [[DyingTown urban decay]], a river that was once [[PollutedWasteland so polluted that]] [[FreakierThanFiction it caught fire]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River#Environmental_concerns thirteen times]] [[https://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/burning-river and named a local beer after that fact]], several political scandals leading to multiple FBI raids, and the fact that road construction is ''never'' finished (also a staple of Ohio in general), most residents have no illusions of being in paradise, and often speak with GallowsHumor. Some choose to stay, however, as the city has a low cost of living, a growing healthcare industry (the world-renowned Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals), and decent nightlife. It can even be called a mini-UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}}, due to its patchwork of ethnic neighborhoods, Midwest atmosphere, public rail that's both elevated and underground (well, it runs in its own ditch rather than under the street, but same diff), division by a major river (east and west in this case, with people on either side almost never going further than downtown), and massive crime rates. And then there's [[{{Balloonacy}} Balloonfest '86]]. And [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Torso_Murderer the Torso Killer...]]
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11On some more positive notes, the term "RockAndRoll" was coined in Cleveland by local DJ Alan Freed, and the city has a proud musical heritage and is home to both the UsefulNotes/RockAndRollHallOfFame and the Cleveland Orchestra, the youngest of America's "Big Five" symphonies (the others are New York, Boston, Chicago, and Philadelphia). Cleveland also houses the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polka_Hall_of_Fame Polka Hall of Fame]], and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenian-style_polka Cleveland Style Polka]] is a sub-genre of music named after the [[PolkaDork Polka Dorks]] of the city due mostly in part to the success of Frankie Yankovic but also to a large number of people of German and Eastern European (especially Polish) descent in Cleveland. Jazz musicians, including scat jazz, also have been and continue to be popular. The Playhouse Square in downtown is the second-largest theatre complex in the United States, behind UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity's Lincoln Center. The city is also sometimes used as a stand-in for NYC or Chicago in film, due to lower filming costs, since it has similar architecture[[note]]Many a local has {{squee}}d upon seeing the Trust Company Rotunda in ''Film/SpiderMan3''[[/note]]. It possesses a surprising number of truly beautiful churches, more museums than a city thrice its size generally has, and two of the best library systems in the country. Cleveland's the home of Case Western Reserve University, one of the more bizarrely named colleges in the country[[note]]The Case Institute of Technology and Western Reserve University used to be two separate institutions until 1967. "Western Reserve" itself refers to an old name for northeast Ohio, the Connecticut Western Reserve, claimed by the state of Connecticut for its veterans to settle in following the American Revolution until the state agreed to give it up to the newly-formed state of Ohio.[[/note]], and Cleveland State University. An hour southeast is Kent State University, a [[StrawmanU Berzerkeley]] known for an infamous massacre in 1970 where four students protesting the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar where shot dead by the Ohio National Guard. Kent State also has a bitter rivalry with the nearby University of Akron[[note]]And we ''do'' mean nearby, the two schools are ten miles apart.[[/note]] in the [[UsefulNotes/GroupOfFiveConferences Mid-American Conference]] in the Battle for the Wagon Wheel.
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13Cleveland's professional sports teams generally go through extended periods of crappy performance with losing streaks of several games on end, interrupted with periods where they steamroll through everyone in their way[[note]]We win a title about every century![[/note]]. Its [[UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball football team]], the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBDMMVctu8 Browns]][[note]]Before you ask what a "Brown" is, the team was named after its first owner, Paul Brown, former Ohio State University coach and a highly respected figure in Ohio athletics. It wasn't even his idea and he was against it at first, but later went along with it. For an animal mascot, dogs have long been popular due to the city's first pro football team, the Bulldogs.[[/note]], who used to be one of the most dominant teams in the [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague NFL]] in the '50s and '60s and has had a rivalry with the UsefulNotes/{{Pittsburgh}} Steelers for decades. Never, ''ever'' say anything nice about the UsefulNotes/{{Baltimore}} [[BerserkButton Ravens]] to a Browns fan; the original Browns franchise moved to Baltimore through some shady dealing on owner Art Modell's part, then quickly went on to achieve UsefulNotes/SuperBowl success that Clevelanders believe should be theirs. The city fought to hold on to the Browns' name and history, and the "new" Browns debuted in 1999. They have not fared nearly as well, sitting at the bottom of the league's standing almost every year and taking over two decades to win a playoff game, which they finally did in 2021 against Pittsburgh.
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15Cleveland's baseball and basketball teams are respectively the Guardians (formerly the Indians) and the Cavaliers. The Guardians have gone over sixty years without a World Series title, longer than any other UsefulNotes/MajorLeagueBaseball team that hasn't been [[UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} cursed by a goat-owning bartender]]... at least until 2016, when they inherited the title of longest drought ''by losing to the Cubs!'' Meanwhile, the Cavs (founded in 1970) never even made it to the [[UsefulNotes/NationalBasketballAssociation NBA]] Finals until 2007. When it looked like the latter were poised to finally win a championship in the late [=2000s=], they ended up losing star player UsefulNotes/LeBronJames (from nearby Akron, some 40 miles [64 kilometers] to the south) to the UsefulNotes/{{Miami}} Heat in 2010, with whom he won two titles... before he chose to return to the Cavs in 2014, leading them to their very first NBA title in 2016 (in which they became the first team to ever rally from a 3–1 hole in the Finals) and ending a 52-year championship drought which had affected ''all'' of Cleveland's pro sports teams ever since the Browns last won a title in 1964 (two years ''before'' the Super Bowl even ''existed'', and also before [=LeBron's=] ''mother'' was born). The Cavs eventually lost [=LeBron=] a second time in 2018, this time to the Los Angeles Lakers. In other sports, hockey is only represented through the second-tier American Hockey League (the NHL only had a Cleveland team for two years), where ten Cleveland teams won the Calder Cup, most recently the Lake Erie Monsters (since renamed the Cleveland Monsters) in 2016--just 8 days before the Cavs' title;[[note]]The Monsters, farm team of the NHL's Columbus Blue Jackets, are owned by the same guy as the Cavaliers and the teams share an arena![[/note]] and while Cleveland won some indoor soccer tournaments, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Cleveland the town's only team]] is in the fourth tier (UsefulNotes/MajorLeagueSoccer has two teams in Ohio, but they're in Columbus and Cincinnati).
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17The city was named for surveyor Moses Cleaveland (the first 'A' was reportedly dropped so the name would fit on a newspaper masthead) and has no connection to [[UsefulNotes/NorthEastEngland the English county of Cleveland]], or the [[UsefulNotes/GroverCleveland 22nd and 24th President of the United States]] (who was only distantly related to Moses Cleaveland).
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19Has been the subject of some rather infamous [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY but hilarious]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM&NR=1 tourism]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIbmT2Rs8vw videos.]]
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21!!Cleveland in media:
22* ''Antwone Fisher''
23* ''Film/HowardTheDuck''
24* ''ComicBook/AmericanSplendor''
25* ''Film/TheFortuneCookie''
26* ''Film/MajorLeague'' (the first was filmed in Milwaukee, the second in Baltimore)
27* ''Series/TheDrewCareyShow'' (whose one-time theme song, "Cleveland Rocks", is the former TropeNamer, used in full irony here. The original version of the song was recorded by [[Music/MottTheHoople Ian Hunter]] in the late 1970s, who got tired of Cleveland being America's national worst.)
28* Overton from ''Sereis/LivingSingle''
29* [[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Marvel]] superheroine Dagger (of ''ComicBook/CloakAndDagger'' fame) is from Shaker Heights, a wealthy suburb in the East Side.
30* On ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'', passing references are made to a Hellmouth in Cleveland. Robin is shown to have moved there with his own squad of slayers.
31* ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'': the main character of the show, Ted Mosby, is from Cleveland, namely Shaker Heights. Series creator Carter Bays (he based Ted’s character off of himself) also hails from Shaker.
32** Ted’s best friend from school, Punchy, still lives in Cleveland with his fiancée. In season 6, he asks Ted to be the best man at his wedding, [[spoiler:which may or may not lead to a major turning point in the series]].
33* ''Series/BosomBuddies'': Kip and Henry went to high school in Shaker Heights.
34* The ''Series/ThirtyRock'' episode of the same name [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/856/30-rock-cleveland-get-away portrayed Cleveland as an idyllic paradise]], albeit through the eyes of harried New Yorkers. In actuality, Public Square should have a lot more homeless people and pigeons hanging out.
35* ''The Escapists''
36* The opening scene of ''Film/AirForceOne'' was filmed from the roof of Severance Hall.
37* Fat Freddy of ''ComicBook/TheFabulousFurryFreakBrothers'' is briefly elected mayor (after trying to replicate Literature/DickWhittington's adventures and become Lord Mayor of UsefulNotes/{{London}}, Cleveland is reckoned second best). People moon him and throw bottles during his inaugural parade.
38* ''VideoGame/{{Portal}}'' takes place in Cleveland, according to [[http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/File:Borealis_plans_01.png information]] in ''VideoGame/HalfLife2: Episode Two''. Later retconned, ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' takes place in a salt mine in the state of Michigan, though both settings could have been used.
39* ''Welcome To Collinwood''
40* ''Film/TheSoloist''
41* ''Film/StrangerThanParadise''
42--> '''Willie''': We'll take you someplace ''warm''. This place is awful.
43* ''WesternAnimation/KappaMikey'' main character Mikey Simon is said to be from Cleveland.
44* Not fiction, but a number of Cleveland's restaurants have been featured on TLC.
45* Several books/movies based on the Torso Murder (a Cleveland serial killer) such as Butcher's Dozen or John Peyton Cooke's novel Torso.
46* ''Series/CriminalMinds'' had an episode with a serial killer in Cleveland.
47* Blood and Rust by S. A. Swiniarski a book that contains two vampire stories set in Cleveland.
48* A few ''Series/{{Route 66}}'' episodes take place in Cleveland.
49* The short story [[http://sfreader.com/contest-2008-1.asp "On a Clear Day You can See All the Way to Conspiracy"]] by Creator/DesmondWarzel.
50* The Creator/{{Infocom}} game ''VideoGame/LeatherGoddessesOfPhobos'' includes a small area of Cleveland, where it is compared (unfavorably) to the slime pits of Venus and sandstorms of Mars.
51* A few ''ComicStrip/GetFuzzy'' strips mention Cleveland such as the one that rates it the smelliest city in America.
52* A proportionately high number of long running [[ComicStrip comic strips]] are written by Clevelanders and/or take place in Cleveland.
53** ''ComicStrip/{{Crankshaft}}'' By Tom Batiuk and drawn by Chuck Ayers, and its spin-off ''ComicStrip/FunkyWinkerbean''. Both have various references to Cleveland show up in the comics.
54** ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' creator Creator/BillWatterson. [[WhereTheHellIsSpringfield Although it is never explicitly mentioned where the strip takes place]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes#Books signs point to Watterson's hometown]] of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagrin_Falls,_Ohio Chagrin Falls]], a suburb of Cleveland.
55** ''Flo & Friends'' by John Gibel and Jenny Campbell definitely makes references to Cleveland
56** ''BornLoser'' by Chip Sansom
57** ''PajamaDiaries'' by Terri Libenson
58** ''AskShagg'' by Peter Guren
59** ''ComicStrip/{{Ziggy}}'' by Tom Wilson, Sr. and Tom Wilson, Jr. Senior lived in Cleveland while his son lived in Cincinnati, so there were references to both Ohio cities.
60* In ''View From The Top'', Cleveland is the hub of Royalty Airlines' commuter-class sibling, Royalty Express, and serves as the setting for the middle third of the film.
61* ''Series/HotInCleveland''
62* The short story "Fields" by Desmond Warzel takes place in Cleveland during the final days of humanity, after most plant life on Earth has been choked out by genetically modified wheat.
63* In ''Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors'', [[spoiler:Audrey II eats]] Cleveland.
64* In ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'' Numbuh 1's history report decribes the founding of an adult paradise, "they named it Cleveland."
65* In Deadpool's ending in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3'', [[spoiler:he accidentally destroys Cleveland during a drunken party aboard Galactus' ship.]]
66* Creator/CarlSandburg's poem "[[http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15265 Honky Tonk in Cleveland, Ohio]]" seems to paint the Cleveland of the first half of the 20th century as a happening jazz and blues scene, albeit with a darker undertone of hedonism and disappointment for the common worker (in keeping with Sandburg's UsefulNotes/{{socialism}}).
67* Les Roberts's series of detective novels featuring Milan Jacovich (fifteen books as of 2011).
68* In ''Webcomic/SkinHorse'', the transgenic convention takes place in Cleveland.
69* In a darkly humorous twist of fate, Cleveland is left as the largest city left standing in North America within the Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom timeline, [[Literature/ProtectAndSurviveATimeline Protect and Survive]].
70* ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun'' is set in the fictional town of Rutherford, Ohio. Throughout the series, Cleveland is treated as being the nearest big city.
71* S. Andrew Swann, a local, set the first book of his Literature/MoreauSeries and both books of his ''[[Literature/DragonsAndDwarves Dragons of the Cuyahoga]]'' series in Cleveland.
72* ''Film/TheAvengers2012'' was partially filmed in Cleveland, probably in response to ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' being filmed in UsefulNotes/{{Pittsburgh}}. Locals found it hilarious when "Germany" looked like the Cleveland Museum of Arts. Also, the exterior of the opera house in Stuttgart is actually the entrance of the Terminal Tower, one of Cleveland's most recognizable buildings.
73** ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' was also filmed in Cleveland, leading one of the screenwriters to joke how he never thought one American metropolis would be willing to shut down part of the city for Marvel to film the SceneryGorn.
74* Cleveland was seen in one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents''. Cosmo and Mr. Turner call it "the magical land of Cleve".
75* In ''Website/NFLQuarterbacksOnFacebook'', the city of Cleveland, as well as Browns fans, were DrivenToSuicide whenever someone mentioned the Baltimore Ravens' successes after the 1996 move, especially after they won two Super Bowls (XXXV and XLVII).
76* ''Draft Day'', about the day in the life of a beleaguered Cleveland Browns GM.
77* ''ComicBook/HaloUprising'' is set in a 26th century Cleveland, now a prosperous resort city after 500 years of improvement. Too bad [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the Covenant]] attack.
78* In ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'', the Marine Life Institute is in the process of shipping fish permanently to a sister aquarium in Cleveland, where Hank desires to go.
79* Season 3 of ''Podcast/{{Serial}}'' is a look at the American criminal-justice system through the lens of the Cuyahoga County Justice Center in Cleveland. The series takes place there primarily because the rules of the Ohio Courts of Common Pleas generally permit audio recording everywhere in all courthouses, including in courtrooms during proceedings on the record.
80* ''Film/RockyHorrorPictureShow'' takes places in the fictional Denton, Ohio, but the newspaper Janet uses to shield herself from the rain is Cleveland's local paper ''The Plain Dealer'', implying that Cleveland is the closest major city.
81* ''Film/FunSize''
82* ''Literature/LittleFiresEverywhere'' is set in the affluent suburb of Shaker Heights, whose moderate-conservative values are shown to clash with the free spirit and her daughter that move into the town.
83* In the Creator/JohnCandy movie ''Film/{{Delirious}}'' he plays a soap opera writer transported into his own show who can [[RewritingReality write out other people's words and actions]]. When one character (played by Creator/RobertWagner, who Candy's character calls Robert Wagner in a NoFourthWall moment) becomes a nuisance he writes in a hasty exit:
84-->'''Robert Wagner:''' I have to go to... ''[looks at a plane ticket]'' Cleveland. Jesus, I hate Cleveland!\
85''[later]''\
86'''John Candy:''' What are you doing here? I sent you to Cleveland!\
87'''Robert Wagner:''' I should kill you for that alone!
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89!!Celebrities from Cleveland and the surrounding area:
90* Wrestling/{{Abyss}} (born in UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC, but grew up in Cleveland)
91* Creator/ErnieAnderson ([[HorrorHost Ghoulardi]], Tim Conway's comedy partner, and longtime Creator/{{ABC}} announcer)
92* Avant
93* [[WesternAnimation/MrMagoo Jim]] [[Series/GilligansIsland Backus]]
94* Creator/VanessaBayer
95* Creator/BrianMichaelBendis (writer for Creator/MarvelComics)
96* Creator/HalleBerry
97* Ettore Boiardi, aka Chef Boyardee
98* Music/BoneThugsNHarmony
99* Wrestling/DanaBrooke (from the southern suburb of Seven Hills)
100* Creator/RichardBrooks
101* Creator/YvetteNicoleBrown
102* Creator/JulianneBuescher
103* Creator/GeorgeBuza
104* Creator/DrewCarey
105* Music/TracyChapman
106* Creator/BillCobbs
107* Creator/AmberLeeConnors (born in Cleveland, later moved and split time between LA and Dallas)
108* Creator/TimConway
109* Creator/WesCraven
110* Mike Douglas
111* Creator/KeirDullea
112* Wrestling/{{EC3}} (from the northeast suburb of Willoughby)
113* Creator/PaulEiding
114* Creator/HarlanEllison (Grew up in the nearby town of Painesville)
115* Music/{{Filter}}
116* Creator/QuintonFlynn (from Mayfield, a suburb)
117* [[RockAndRoll Alan Freed]]
118* Wrestling/JohnnyGargano
119* Creator/TeriGarr
120* Wrestling/JackieGayda (from the suburb of Strongsville)
121* Creator/JasonGriffith (from the northeast suburb of Lakeline)
122* Creator/AnnaGunn
123* Creator/KathrynHahn (Born in Westchester, Illinois but raised in Cleveland Heights)
124* Creator/ArsenioHall
125* Comedian Jack Hanrahan was originally from Cleveland, and according to [[https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/the-read/articles/the-man-who-made-cleveland-a-national-joke this Cleveland Magazine article]] from 1976, he was responsible for codifying many of the [[SelfDeprecation jokes about his hometown]].
126* Creator/SteveHarvey
127* Creator/PatriciaHeaton
128* Creator/AnneHeche
129* Creator/JohnHenton
130* Creator/HalHolbrook
131* Wrestling/{{Holidead}}
132* Creator/BobHope (born in UsefulNotes/{{London}}, but grew up in Cleveland)
133* Creator/LangstonHughes
134* Integrity (originally based out of here, now based out of UsefulNotes/{{Belgium}}, as Dwid Hellion emigrated there)
135* Creator/CarolKane
136* Music/KidCudi
137* Music/MidnightSyndicate
138* [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeagueQuarterbacks Bernie Kosar]] (who famously played the NFL Draft system so he could end up with his hometown team)
139* Dennis Kucinich (former Congressman from Cleveland; previous Mayor of Cleveland during [[TheSeventies the late 1970s]] when the city declared bankruptcy)
140* Lady Akashia (DragQueen who appeared in the first season of ''[[Series/RuPaulsDragRace [=RuPaul=]'s Drag Race]]'')
141* Wrestling/JerryLawler (Spent some of his childhood there, life-long Cleveland Browns fan. We're sorry, King.)
142* Gerald Levert
143* Music/MachineGunKelly
144* Creator/JulieMaddalena
145* Creator/BurgessMeredith
146* Michael Stanley Band
147* Wrestling/TheMiz
148* Creator/IsabelaMoner
149* Mushroomhead
150* Creator/PaulNewman
151* Music/NineInchNails (formed in Cleveland; Trent Reznor and Chris Vrenna are from nearby Mercer and Erie (respectively) in Pennsylvania)
152* Creator/{{Jake|Paul}} and Creator/LoganPaul are from the nearby town of Westlake.
153* Harvey Pekar, creator of the autobiographical comic ''ComicBook/AmericanSplendor''
154* Creator/MaxPerlich
155* Roger Penske (Founder of Penske and owner of Penske Racing in UsefulNotes/{{NASCAR}} and Indycar) hails from Shaker Heights.
156* Music/PereUbu (long-running AvantGardeMusic band named after the character from ''Theatre/UbuRoi'')
157* Mike Polk Jr. (stand-up comedian who infamously made the tourism videos, and dubbed [=FirstEnergy=] Stadium, home to the Browns, "[[MemeticMutation the Factory of Sadness]]".)
158* Award-winning sportswriter Joe Posnanski
159* Creator/MonicaPotter
160* Creator/LiliReinhart of ''Series/{{Riverdale}}'' is from the nearby town of Bay Village.
161* Ringworm
162* Creator/BumperRobinson
163* Wrestling/PerrySaturn
164* Creator/JerrySiegelAndJoeShuster (the creators of Franchise/{{Superman}})
165** Siegel and Shuster originally wanted Superman's adventures to be set in Cleveland before ExecutiveMeddling vetoed that idea. We can only speculate how this would have affected Cleveland's image in the public consciousness...
166* Creator/MollyShannon
167* George Steinbrenner (who tried to buy the Cleveland Guardians before [[WhatCouldHaveBeen settling]] for the [[UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity New York]] Yankees instead.)
168* Michael Symon (Food Network Chef)
169* Wrestling/{{Wardlow}} (from Middlefield, in Geauga County)
170* Bill Watterson (creator of ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'') is from Chagrin Falls, a suburb of Cleveland.
171* Creator/DebraWinger
172* Mary Ann Winkowski - Television personality whose claims of paranormal experiences are the basis for ''Series/GhostWhisperer'', on which she is also a paid producer.
173* Frank Yankovic (musician, known as "America's Polka King", no relation to [[Music/WeirdAlYankovic Weird Al]])
174* Wrestling/DolphZiggler (born there, according to Website/ThatOtherWiki) was once acknowledged during a show in Cleveland.
175* Ryan Nemeth - Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling wrestler (born there according to Website/ThatOtherWiki also the brother of Dolph Ziggler)
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177-->''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM It could be worse, though: at least we're not Detroit!]]'' ♪\
178''STILL NOT DETROIT!''

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