Line #21 Trivia/LupinIII


1	* AdaptationDisplacement: The Creator/AdultSwim airing of ''Anime/LupinIIIPartII'' caused the franchise's fanbase in North America to grow. However, many people who came into the franchise via it aren't aware of the earlier [[Anime/LupinIIIPart1 "Green Jacket"]] series or the [[Manga/LupinIII comic]] that spawned both – Creator/{{Tokyopop}} released the first manga series and half of the second before dropping it due to low sales.
2	* AnimeFirst: The color Manga volumes are all made from the anime versions of Lupin, in a RecursiveAdaptation.
3	* CharacterOutlivesActor: Creator/YasuoYamada, the voice of Lupin the Third, died of a brain hemorrhage in 1995, a month before the release of ''Anime/FarewellToNostradamus'', the movie that would mark the franchise's return to the big screen after ten years. Fortunately, his will stated that, if he were to pass away, the baton should be passed to Kan'ichi Kurita (a popular comedian and impersonator), [[TheOtherDarrin who voices Lupin]] from that movie onwards. In honor of Yamada, a message was placed at the end of the film's credits: "To Yasuo Yamada, Eternal Lupin the Third: Thank you!".
4	* CompletelyDifferentTitle: [[ScrewedByTheLawyers Due to copyright issues with the original Arsène Lupin stories outside of Japan]], American licensors in the 90's were forced to use several workarounds: Creator/{{AnimEigo}} using ''[[SpellMyNameWithAnS Rupan]] the Third'', or Creator/StreamlinePictures just calling him "The Wolf" in the dub and promotional materials. The issue was resolved when Arsène Lupin lapsed into the {{Public Domain\|Character}}. This is why everything Lupin related that came out in North America ''after'' the 90's uses the correct name.[[note]] Fun Fact: According to ''Fuma'''s liner notes, the original ''Arsène Lupin'' stories had fallen into the public domain in the USA prior to Creator/{{AnimEigo}} licensing it. But the contract TMS handed them was the same one that Streamline had signed years earlier (and had been written when [=LeBlanc=]'s work ''wasn't'' Public Domain yet). This resulted in the infamous "Rupan". Streamline ''was'' allowed to refer to the character as "Lupin" full time eventually, but it was consistently with the French pronunciation instead of the Japanese pronunciation, a quirk that only also appeared in the Funimation dubs, which were otherwise infamous for constant mispronunciations of character names.[[/note]]
5	** Until 2012 it was ''still'' an issue in France. There, [[DubNameChange Lupin was called Edgar]]. (''The Woman Called Fujiko Mine'' appears to be the first French release to use the Lupin name. The 5th anime series, set in France, was also marketed with the Lupin name there.)
6	** In Italy, the various series would get different subtitles.
7	** Some of the [[Anime/LupinIIIYearlySpecials specials]] have completely different titles in Japanese and English. [[note]] Some may even have a ''third'' title unique to TV Tropes because fans made a good-faith effort to guess the international title but then an actual release used something different![[/note]]
8	* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Funimation lost all of their rights to the various ''Manga/LupinIII'' movies and specials they previously dubbed, with most of them now being distributed by Creator/DiscotekMedia.
9	** ''Anime/TheFumaConspiracy'' suffered a double whammy of this trope, with both the original Creator/{{AnimEigo}} release and the Discotek rerelease going out of print, with second-hand copies for both releases fetching high prices.
10	** While large portions of the anime have been rescued, the same cannot be said for the manga, which had no English release outside of the Creator/{{Tokyopop}} release, which has long since gone out of print due to the company going bankrupt and losing the license. To make matters worse, their release of the second manga series (known as ''Lupin III: World's Most Wanted'') never even had a [[UnfinishedDub complete English release]] due to poor sales, leaving nearly half of the series completely inaccessible in the West through legal means. While Seven Seas eventually obtained the license and released a "best of" compilation of both series in 2021, there is no word on whether the full manga series will be relicensed as well.
11	** Creator/{{Funimation}}'s license to ''Anime/LupinIIITheWomanCalledFujikoMine'' expired in August of 2018, and it wouldn't be until September 2020 that Creator/DiscotekMedia rescued the license. Funi's release, however, is getting increasingly more expensive as time goes on.
12	* LongRunner: while nowhere near the total number of other Long Runners, new Lupin III production has been coming out constantly since the series started, with only a few years in the 1970s without it. Some kind of Lupin III production(TV series, Theatrical film, Live-action film, theatrical play, or made-for-TV movie) has been coming out every single year since at least 1978.
13	* MissingEpisode: "Red Jacket" Episode 3, "Hitler's Legacy" (a.k.a "To Be Or Nazi Be"), was this for a while with the series' US release, as Creator/AdultSwim refused to air it for [[ThoseWackyNazis pretty obvious reasons]] – [as] was still pretty skittish at the time thanks to the oppressive post-9/11 media environment. Bizarrely, TV airings of the preceding episode still had the preview for this one. Less justifiably, Geneon withheld it from the Volume 1 DVD – a move widely seen as a primary reason for the show's failure – it was included in Volume 5, tacked onto the end of the first season. For what it's worth, Creator/DiscotekMedia put the episode in its original spot when making their rerelease.
14	* NoExportForYou:
15	** Very few of the Manga have left Japan, even in scanlation form. Adding insult to injury (see KeepCirculatingTheTapes up there for more details), even the original pre-''World's Most Wanted'' manga never got a full release in English, as the tankoban edition that Creator/{{Tokyopop}} chose to port (in addition to wildly [[OutOfOrder mixing up the original publication order]]) deliberately skipped ten or so chapters. Seven Seas' "Best of" re-compilation includes some of them, but only some.
16	** For a very long time, the only place outside Japan to see the 1971 "Green Jacket" TV series was Italy. North America finally got it in 2012, albeit only in Japanese with subtitles.
17	** The third TV series, [[Anime/LupinIIIPartIII "Pink Jacket"]] was, for a long time, not legally available outside of Japan ([[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff or Italy]]) until it was inexplicably put on American streaming sites in the 2010s (and later, [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-12-14/discotek-licenses-kodocha-kenichi-daimos-black-rock-shooter/.167443 Discotek announced a home video release]]). Before then, ''Anime/LegendOfTheGoldOfBabylon'' got a subtitled VHS tape[[labelnote:*]] (prior to Discotek's 2009 release of "Episode 0", this was the only U.S. ''Lupin'' release to lack an English dub)[[/labelnote]] that quickly went out of print.
18	*** "Pink Jacket" appeared in Italy in 1987 under the name "L'incorreggibile Lupin", and had several re-runs on Mediaset channels for the next 15 years. However, even there it's the least-liked series.
19	** Of the 25 Anime/LupinIIIYearlySpecials produced to date, only 14 so far have made it to North America. [[note]] Creator/DiscotekMedia has licensed the first four (spanning 1989-1992) – ''Bye-Bye Liberty Crisis'', ''The Hemingway Papers'', ''Napoleon's Dictionary'', and ''From Siberia With Love'' – as well as 2002's ''Episode 0: First Contact'' and 2009's ''Lupin vs Manga/CaseClosed''. Creator/{{Funimation}} licensed, dubbed, and released the eight specials spanning 1993-2000 – ''Voyage To Danger'', ''Dragon Of Doom'', ''The Pursuit of Harimao's Treasure'', ''The Secret of Twilight Gemini'', ''Island Of Assassins'', ''Crisis In Tokyo'', ''The Columbus Files'', and ''Missed By A Dollar''. Discotek has also licensed ''The Alcatraz Connection'', but as of this edit it has yet to see release.[[/note]] Of those, only 9 have English dubs – the eight Funimation specials plus ''Bye-Bye Liberty Crisis'', which got a British dub back in the 90's. Everything from 2003 onwards, save for the Lupin/Conan crossover, remain stuck in Japan ([[RunningGag or Italy]]).
20	** As of the end of 2022, only a handful remain unreleased: The live action 2014 Lupin the 3rd film, Stolen Lupin, An Angel's Tactics, Seven Days Rhapsody, Sweet Lost Night ~Magic Lamp's Nightmare Premonition, Record of Observations of the East - Another Page, Princess of the Breeze - Hidden City in the Sky and The Italian Game (although that one may not count, since the special extensively recycles footage from Part IV).
21	** Thanks to Creator/{{Geneon}} dropping "Red Jacket" after Episode 79, only two episodes from the series's second half made it to North America[[labelnote:†]] (the [[Creator/HayaoMiyazaki Miyazaki]]-directed episodes 145 and 155 were released by Streamline in the 90's under the title "Tales of the Wolf")[[/labelnote]] until December 6th 2015, when episodes 80-155 were put up on Crunchyroll. A couple weeks later, Discotek confirmed they had the license and would release the series on DVD starting sometime in 2016. It has improved subtitles for the series's second half (as well as the dub for episodes 145 and 155).
22	* TheOtherDarrin: With over forty years of animation and dubbing, it is inevitable that examples of replacements without In-Universe explanation occur.
23	** The Japanese cast for ''Lupin'' is remarkable for its extreme consistency over many decades. However, even it has had its shakeups.
24	*** ''Anime/LupinIIIPilotFilm'', the original 1969 pilot film (shot and recorded twice), Darrin'ed ''itself'' by having two completely different voice casts. Strangely, Creator/GoroNaya (Zenigata's long-time VA) played Goemon and Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka (Goemon in the first series) played Zenigata. The only other actors from these recordings retained for future ''Lupin'' projects were Creator/EikoMasuyama as Fujiko and Creator/KiyoshiKobayashi as Jigen.
25	*** ''Anime/LupinIIIPart1'' replaced Lupin, Goemon, and Fujiko, with Creator/YasuoYamada, Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka, and Yukiko Nikaido, respectively. Masuyama still appears in this series as an incidental character.
26	*** ''Anime/LupinIIIPartII'' created and cemented the most famous cast arrangement – Yamada as Lupin, Kobayashi as Jigen, Masuyama as Fujiko, Creator/MakioInoue as Goemon, and Naya as Zenigata. With one exception (see below), this lineup would not change again for the next eighteen years.
27	*** In 1987, ''Anime/TheFumaConspiracy'' was produced on a tight budget, so TMS decided to replace the principal cast (at the time, the highest-paid voice actors in Japan) with cheaper actors from Aoni Production. Thus, Lupin is played here by Creator/ToshioFurukawa, Jigen by [[Creator/BanjoGinga Banjou Ginga]], Goemon by Creator/KanetoShiozawa, Fujiko by Creator/MamiKoyama, and Inspector Zenigata by Creator/SeizoKato. Fan reaction was... [[{{Understatement}} less than positive]], and TMS switched back to the original actors for the annual TV specials that started two years later. Contrary to rumors of the time, Monkey Punch had nothing to do with this one. [[note]] His actual words were something along the lines of, "I don't like it, but this is more your thing than mine, so if you have to then I won't stop you." This somehow got communicated to Yasuo Yamada as Monkey Punch being unhappy with his performance, which naturally upset Yamada (who took great pride in playing Lupin) and ended their friendship. Their relationship was still strained at the time of Yamada's death in 1995.[[/note]]
28	*** Lupin's longtime voice actor, Creator/YasuoYamada, was savvy enough to know that he wouldn't be sticking around forever, so he personally trained and handpicked a friend of his, comedian Kan'ichi Kurita, to succeed him as the voice of Lupin should anything happen to him. Prescient, as Yamada unexpectedly passed away shortly after this, in early 1995. Kurita has voiced Lupin in everything since. From here, the main cast stabilized again for another sixteen years.
29	*** In 2011, TMS retired Makio Inoue, Eiko Masuyama, and Goro Naya (Goemon, Fujiko, and Zenigata, respectively), replacing them with (much) younger actors from the 2011 special onwards – Creator/DaisukeNamikawa as Goemon, Creator/MiyukiSawashiro as Fujiko, and Creator/KoichiYamadera as Zenigata.[[note]] The original cast would reunite one last time in 2012 for a ten-minute short, ''Anime/LupinFamilyAllStars'', a few months before Naya's death.[[/note]] This leaves Jigen as the last character of the main cast whose voice actor Kiyoshi Kobayashi has remained consistent since the 1969 pilot short film (not counting ''The Fuma Conspiracy'').
30	*** To celebrate his 52-year tenure as the voice of Jigen, Kiyoshi Kobayashi reprised the role for the final time in episode 0 of ''Part 6''. Then, he finally stepped down from the role once and for all, with Creator/AkioOtsuka replacing him.
31	** ''Lupin's'' English cast has never been consistent, with several media being dubbed [[DuelingDubs and redubbed]] multiple times, due to several failed attempts to successfully market the franchise in the English-speaking world over the years. One movie (''Anime/TheMysteryOfMamo'') had '''four''' dubs produced between 1979-2003. To date, at least seven different English ''Lupin'' casts are known to exist.[[note]] For reference, those casts are Creator/{{Streamline\|Pictures}} (Los Angeles – ''Mamo'', ''Cagliostro'', ''Tales of the Wolf''), Creator/{{AnimEigo}}[=/=]Coastal (North Carolina – ''Fuma'' only), Creator/{{Manga\|Entertainment}}US[=/=]Animaze (LA, ''Cagliostro'' only), Creator/{{Geneon}}[=/=]Phuuz (LA – ''"Red Jacket"'' and ''Mamo''), Creator/{{Funimation}} (Texas – Eight TV specials, ''Nostradamus'', ''Dead Or Alive'', and the ''Fujiko Mine'' series), and the dubs by Creator/{{Manga\|Entertainment}}UK (''Mamo'' and ''Liberty Crisis'') and Toho (''Mamo'' only). Despite three different LA-based studios recording and rerecording parts of the franchise, there are no consistent voices between any of them.[[/note]]
32	*** Creator/RichardEpcar has worked for both the Geneon/Phuuz and Funimation casts, playing Jigen and Zenigata, respectively.[[note]]It was widely believed for years that he voiced Goemon in [=Manga/Animaze=]'s dub of ''Castle of Cagliostro'', but it was actually Michael Gregory. Epcar later clarified in an interview that he was credited with the role in error.[[/note]]
33	*** Funimation dubbed eight ''Lupin'' TV specials and two movies in the early 2000's. When they got the license to ''Anime/LupinIIITheWomanCalledFujikoMine'' in 2013, their original actors for Fujiko and Zenigata, Meredith [=McCoy=] and Philip Wilburn, were no longer available. So they picked up talent from the "Red Jacket" dub, namely Creator/MichelleRuff and Creator/RichardEpcar.
34	*** And muddying things even further, the three theatrical releases in the done by Takeshi Koike went with all new voice actors in English save for two characters: Epcar reprises his role as Zenigata from ''Fujiko Mine'', and Creator/LexLang was brought back from the Geneon/Phuuz dub to voice Goemon.
35	* OutOfOrder: ''None'' of the manga's (many, many) tankoban releases try to collect the chapters in their original magazine publication order. The series is by and large episodic (sometimes bordering on NegativeContinuity) enough for this not to matter, but it does repeatedly break up the various ThematicSeries Monkey Punch bundled the chapters in.
36	* PopCultureUrbanLegends:
37	** A supposed early English dub of Part 1 known as [[DubNameChange ''The Viper'']] is rumored to have existed and aired on TV in the '70s, though a thorough investigation by the Lost Media Wiki was unable to find any evidence of its existence, so the authenticity of the dub remains unknown.
38	** It has been rumored that Creator/RodgerBumpass based the voice of [[Characters/SpongeBobSquarePantsSquidwardTentacles Squidward Tentacles]] off of Phillip Wilburn's rendition of Zenigata, though this has never been confirmed.
39	* RealitySubtext: When the original manga series went on hiatus in the late 60s for three years, the first post-hiatus chapter was about Lupin trying to escape prison, after having been arrested… three years prior.
40	** Both the first chapter of the second manga, and first episode of the second anime series take place five years after the conclusion of the previous series...the same amount of time that had passed in real life as well.
41	* SequelFirst:
42	** When ''Anime/LupinIII'' was allowed to air on Creator/AdultSwim. Pioneer, the company dubbing it, chose the second series rather then the first. The first series finally got released by Creator/DiscotekMedia, but with subtitles only.
43	** For what it's worth, the master copies for [[Anime/LupinIIIPart1 "Green Jacket"]] have gone missing. Without the masters to separate out the music and effects tracks from the voice track, dubbing it would be extremely tricky without extensive and expensive restoration work, making a dub in any other language unlikely.
44	** (Spoiler from the future: TMS was able to dub the Green Jacket series in 2022)
45	* StudioHop: The first six animated films were originally distributed by Toho. The next two films were distributed by TMS Entertainment themselves, with T-Joy as the co-distributor for the ninth one. Toho eventually returned to distribute the tenth film, ''The First''.
46	* ThrowItIn:
47	** The Funimation dubs of the ''Lupin III'' films and specials feature a lot of this.
48	*** ''Anime/LupinIIICrisisInTokyo'' isn't a particularly funny movie in the native Japanese, but the dub had a ton of ad-libbing done by the actors (though not to the point of it being a GagDub), particularly Creator/ChristopherSabat, who voiced Jigen. It worked; it's one of the funniest Lupin movies ever released in the States.
49	** [[Anime/LupinIIIPartII "Red Jacket"]]. Oh dear lord, "Red Jacket". It often ''is'' counted as a GagDub due to its random asides and bad celebrity impersonations.
50	* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
51	** In 1982, Creator/{{TMS\|Entertainment}} and Creator/DiC planned to create ''Lupin VIII'', a spin-off series that [[JustForFun/RecycledINSPACE took place in the distant future]] and [[{{Bowdlerization}} was seemingly going to be targeted to younger audiences]]. The Leblanc estate, however, [[ScrewedByTheLawyers killed those plans]] before the first episode could be finished. Strangely, the first episode, which still lacks a vocal track, is [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes quietly being circulated on VHS tapes]]. After ''Lupin VIII'' was scrapped, Creator/DiC had to come up with something to replace it (they had already committed considerable capital to the project). They ultimately created ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget''. TMS even helped animate the first season. The ''Lupin VIII'' pilot has been released on the [[NoExportForYou as-of-now Japan-exclusive]] ''Lupin III: Master File'' collector's DVD, with subtitles derived from the pilot's original script.
52	*** Inspector Gadget bears a strong resemblance to Inspector Hanshichi from Lupin III part 2 episode 54. & both shows have theme songs that only say the protagonist's name.
53	** Bob Bergen (Lupin's voice actor in the Streamline dubs) auditioned for Geneon's dub of "Red Jacket", but ultimately could not take the part as it turned out to be a non-union production.
54	** The third Lupin III movie was originally set to be written and directed by Creator/MamoruOshii, and had a markedly bizarre plot: Lupin, now older, depressed and unable to find anything worth stealing, is reinvigorated after hearing of an angel fossil being held in the Tower of Babel (which is in the middle of contemporary Tokyo because...[[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse it just is]]) and decides to steal it. There he would meet a girl claiming to be the granddaughter of the architect who built the Tower, only to discover later on that she's actually an angel who hates humanity and uses the angel fossil (which is actually made of plutonium) to effectively [[TheTokyoFireball nuke Tokyo]], destroying it. Lupin then realises that he, and by extension the entire world, are fictional characters, and steals the angel fossil (in the process stealing himself and ''all of reality''), presumably ceasing to exist. Needless to say, TMS weren't happy with such an abstract MindScrew of a plot and fired most of the film's crew, including Oshii, before going on to make ''Anime/LegendOfTheGoldOfBabylon'' instead.
55	* WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants: The whole reason the series exists; Monkey Punch wanted to create a manga, but he wasn't sure what. When the publishers asked what type of manga he wanted to make, he felt like he had to give them an answer right there and then, or he wouldn't get the job, so he answered that he wanted to make something like ''Literature/ArseneLupin''. The publishers ran with it, and ''Lupin III'' was greenlit.

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