Line #6 Trivia/Fantasia


1	!! Tropes applying to [[WesternAnimation/{{Fantasia}} the 1940 Disney film]]:
2	* AcclaimedFlop: Technically a flop ''and'' a success at the same time: It made a ''lot'' of money, it was one of the highest-grossing films that year and was considered a masterpiece. But because production was so obscenely expensive, it still took decades of profit for it to make up for its cost.
3	* AwesomeDearBoy: During pre-production, Walt Disney happened to bump into Leopold Stokowski at Chasen's restaurant in Hollywood and they agreed to eat dinner together. When Disney offhandedly revealed his studio's plans to make a film consisting of animated segments set to classical music, Stokowski immediately offered his services at no cost because he loved the idea.
4	* BannedInChina:
5	** It used to be banned [[http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Seven-classic-films-that-were-banned-in-Ireland/338461.htm in Ireland]] but then recut on initial release to remove the Rite of Spring part, which a censor believed "gave an entirely materialistic view on the origin of life" (most likely because said scene focuses on the Big Bang, something that would have been at odds with traditional Catholic beliefs). It has since been released entirely uncut.
6	** It was also banned in WWII-era Japan, as the Imperial government feared that the Japanese people seeing the Americans make such beautiful works of art would lower morale. They did however allow animation director Mitsuyo Seo, who was producing animated propaganda at the time, view the film to serve as inspiration.
7	* BoxOfficeBomb: Sadly. Budget, $2,280,000. Box office, $361,800 (original theatrical release tally only).
8	* BuryYourArt: Disney is very ashamed of Sunflower, the [[ValuesDissonance stereotypical black centaurette]] that tended to the others, and has edited her out of post-1960 prints as a result. You can tell which scenes she appears in by noticing the fuzziness, although later releases such as the 2010 Blu-Ray remaster (the same version on Disney+) try to make said fuzziness a bit less noticeable using digital noise reduction. [[DigitalDestruction Albeit to mixed results]]...
9	* ColbertBump: A good case can be made that ''Fantasia'' did this for ''Theatre/TheNutcracker''. Apart from the suite, the ballet was fairly obscure outside of Russia-- Deems Taylor even mentions in his introduction that it "wasn't much of a success and [[HilariousInHindsight nobody performs it nowadays]]." Four years after ''Fantasia'' was released, the ballet got its first complete performance in the USA. The rest is history and it's now probably the most frequently staged ballet in the repertoire.
10	* CreatorBacklash: Animator [[Creator/DisneysNineOldMen Eric Larson]] was extremely critical of his animation of the male centaurs in the "Pastoral Symphony" segment (he primarily did them in the scene where they’re carrying the baskets while Fred Moore did a lot of them in the part where they fall in love with the centaurettes) for what he felt was grotesque, clumsy and inaccurate animation. It bothered him for decades and he was still honestly upset when talking to trainees about it in 1980.
11	-->"They were lousy to animate because their design was completely wrong. We didn’t analyze the live-action sufficiently to get a horse action in there. If you watch the front legs of these centaurs they have a certain human feeling and it shouldn’t have been that way. If I had just thought about it then it would be so much better.”
12	* DisownedAdaptation: Music/IgorStravinsky, the only composer who was still alive to see his music used in ''Fantasia'', was excited by the prospect of working with Creator/WaltDisney and having animation made to his music. Unfortunately, he was upset by the edits made to his score without his permission and came to hate the finished product.
13	* ExecutiveMeddling: One of the most infamous examples of this was the ending of the "Rite of Spring" segment. The segment originally would have continued into the age of mammals and end with a scene where early humans dancing as they succeed in creating fire. Disney had this ending removed out of fear it would attract controversy from creationists, but this change did not go over well with Music/IgorStravinsky, who wrote the number and is the sole composer of a ''Fantasia/Fantasia 2000'' number to be alive to see the film in theaters. He was tempted to sue Disney, but decided not to; the whole thing still turned Stravinsky off of animation for the rest of his life.
14	* KeepCirculatingTheTapes:
15	** The unedited "Pastoral Symphony" sequence has never been released on home video, so the only way to see it is to find bootlegs of very old TV recordings of ''Fantasia''.
16	** This also applies to the documentary ''Fantasia: The Making of a Masterpiece'', only available on VHS tapes and Laserdiscs from 1991. On the ''Fantasia'' 60th Anniversary Edition DVD, Disney replaced it with a newer documentary, ''The Fantasia Legacy: The Concert Feature''.
17	** The 1982 rendition with narration replacing Deems Taylor's live-action scenes and a Dolby Stereo re-score by Irwin Kostal has also been discontinued since the 1990 remastering which partially reinstated the original edit. The Walt Disney Records Legacy Collection included the Irwin Kostal score on their 2015 re-release of the ''Fantasia'' soundtrack, but not the new narration.
18	** The 1990 remastering was the last release of Fantasia to feature Deems Taylor's original voice. Also, some people may prefer the shortened introductions of that version that don't spoil the segments for those watching it for the first time.
19	* LimitedSpecialCollectorsUltimateEdition:
20	** The VHS and Laserdisc of ''Fantasia'' had an alternate box set that also contained the documentary ''Fantasia: The Making of a Masterpiece'', and the film's soundtrack on a two-[[UsefulNotes/CompactDisc CD]] package among other things.
21	** In 2000, Disney released a now rare DVD box set titled ''The Fantasia Anthology.'' Which contained the movie's DVD version as well as a DVD of ''WesternAnimation/Fantasia2000'', and an exclusive third disc titled ''Fantasia Legacy'' containing a ton of bonus features detailing the making of each individual segment in both films.
22	** The soundtrack received its own special treatment in 2015 when ''Fantasia'''s 75th anniversary saw Disney add it to the Walt Disney Records Legacy Collection. The 4-CD set contains both the Stokowski and Kostal versions of each song, the music from the deleted "Clair de Lune" sequence, and Sterling Holloway-narrated read-alongs of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" and "Peter and the Wolf", all packaged inside a digibook with concept art and production notes.
23	* MissingEpisode: Before ''Fantasia 2000'' was released, its promos suggested that it was ''replacing'' the original cut of ''Fantasia''. (Assuming you don't consider it already replaced because of all the edits made to the segment introductions over the years and Disney trying their best to edit out a blackface caricature...)
24	* TheOtherDarrin: Deems Taylor's voice is re-dubbed by Creator/CoreyBurton in the DVD and Blu-Ray/Disney+ restorations due to much of the original audio from the recovered live-action footage that wasn't used in the 1990 remaster being lost.
25	** The 1982 digital re-recording, Taylor's voice was re-dubbed by Hugh Douglas, while Wayne Allwine replaced Walt Disney as the voice of Mickey Mouse.
26	* RealitySubtext: "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" has an interesting variation: it was around the time ''Fantasia'' came out that Walt's life wasn't going according to plan, much like how Mickey loses control of the brooms.
27	* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: Creator/WaltDisney's original idea was to keep on adding new segments and switching the order around, such that ''Fantasia'' would be a perpetual work in progress. The idea for a ''Fantasia'' sequel eventually took almost 60 years to come to fruition, and that one went through 9 years of development, getting no help from Katzenberg before he left the studio.
28	* ScienceMarchesOn:
29	** The dinosaurs in the "Rite of Spring" sequence are hopelessly inaccurate today, but were fairly in-line with scientific thinking at the time. As Roy Disney says in the film's commentary, many aspects of the sequence were cutting-edge for their time and were 'facts' that the general public didn't even have a clue about back then.
30	** The sequence also shows the dinosaurs dying off due to extreme desertification, which was one of the many competing theories explaining the K-Pg extinction event. It wasn't until 1980 that Luis Alvarez and his team found that all over the world, the thin sedimentary layer marking the end of the Cretaceous Period contained way higher than normal amounts of iridium, which is rare on Earth, plus soot, shocked quartz, and microscopic diamonds, evidence of a massive asteroid striking the planet at that time.
31	* StillbornFranchise: A great version of one; ''Fantasia's'' failure to make up its original high cost, coupled with WWII cutting off the European market, led to ''Fantasia'' never getting fully followed up for the rest of the 20th century. It would receive a proper sequel in 1999 in the form of ''Fantasia 2000'', but the film also [[HistoryRepeats failed]] due to it being initially limited to IMAX theaters (which there weren't many at the time), killing off any [[FranchiseKiller potential sequels seemingly for good]].
32	* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
33	** Can you imagine if the Disney execs had followed through with their original idea for ''Fantasia'' and continued to release sequels to it periodically, even yearly, with brand-new music and animation? Unfortunately, the onset of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and the high budget resulted in the original film under-performing at the box office (it made a lot of money, but certainly not enough to justify the cost of making a continuous series), resulted in the idea being dropped in what is considered the most haunting Disney "could have been" of all.
34	** ''Fantasia 2006'' (which was to focus on world music) was not only planned, but segments were completed for it before the plug was pulled. They subsequently became standalone shorts: "One by One" and "The Little Match Girl" are included as bonus features on the special edition [=DVDs=] of ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{The Little Mermaid\|1989}}'', respectively; "Lorenzo" screened before ''Film/RaisingHelen'' in theaters, and "Destino" has appeared at film festivals and, curiously, cruise ship art auctions. They all appeared at a 2008 Los Angeles screening hosted by Roy Disney as well.
35	** The original version of ''Fantasia'' would have included "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcpamvLB2JU Clair de Lune]]". This piece was re-edited and shown as "Blue Bayou" in ''WesternAnimation/MakeMineMusic''.
36	*** Speaking of which, the "Music/PeterAndTheWolf" segment was originally developed for a continuation of ''Fantasia''.
37	** There was a rejected pitch for a segment that would have been a hybrid of [[Music/RichardWagner Wagner's]] ''[[Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung Der Ring des Nibelungen]]'' and [[Creator/JRRTolkien Tolkien's]] ''Literature/TheHobbit''.
38	** Other potential pieces that were storyboarded but never completed included Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" and Weber's "Invitation to the Dance". The latter would have starred Peter Pegasus from the "Pastoral Symphony" segment and even had some pencil tests done.
39	** Earlier in production, plans for "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" had either [[WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Dopey]] or WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck as the titular Apprentice. WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse was chosen because Disney wanted to give him a boost, as his popularity had dwindled since Donald's introduction.
40	** The mythological piece was originally supposed to be set to the score from Gabriel Pierné's "Cydalise et le Chèvre-pied." They had a hard time fitting the animation ideas in with the music, so they went with Beethoven's Sixth over conductor Leopold Stokowski's objections.
41	** The procession in "Ave Maria" was originally supposed to enter an actual church. There was also talk of having an image of the Virgin Mary in the last shot which could have been omitted when shown in non-Christian countries.
42	** Online photos of conceptual art pieces for "The Pastoral Symphony" suggest that nymphs and nixies were intended to make an appearance, and that male zebra centaurs were considered to be boyfriends/dancing partners for the zebra centaurettes attending on Bacchus.
43	** Disney toyed with the idea of pumping scents into the theater to match the segments. It was abandoned due to the logistics of clearing each scent after each sequence.
44	*** This concept would later be applied to the similarly themed theme park attraction ''Philharmagic.''
45	** "The Rite of Spring" originally would have ended with the Age of Man; the lack of this ending unfortunately angered composer Igor Stravinsky almost to a lawsuit level.
46	** Sometime during the 1990s, rough animation was discovered of Mickey actually chopping the broom with the ax, before it was changed to silhouettes.
47	** [[https://twitter.com/animated_antic/status/1283945771155390465?s=21&t=HScNQK-OVRELn6V4SO0uSw Concept art]] of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" shows that Mickey was originally depicted with his original PieEyed design prior to getting redesigned by Fred Moore. There is also another [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdGBM7BWoAYLu0E?format=jpg&name=900x900 piece of concept art]] that shows a completely different and unused redesign of Mickey that would use the tanned skin, but would keep the ConjoinedEyes, making him look similar to his first design from ''WesternAnimation/PlaneCrazy'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheGallopinGaucho'' (and coincidentally enough, the later ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'').
48	* WorkingTitle: ''The Concert Feature''. Many titles were suggested until "Fantasia" was chosen.
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50	!! Misc. Trivia:
51	* Someone with a keen eye for details or a photographic memory can spot some re-used animation in ''WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron'' from "Night on Bald Mountain". The scene? When Henwen shows the vision of the Horned King's discovery of her oracular power, you can spot some skeletons-on-horses from ''Fantasia''.
52	* At 2 hours and 4 minutes (124 minutes) long, this is the longest Disney animated film; the 50th-anniversary edition released in theaters in 1990 would cut 4 minutes out of the film to make it 2 hours flat.
53	* Fantasia had the first known use of "Surround Sound" in a theater, coined as "Fantasound." The 1991 VHS and Laserdisc releases based on the 1990 remaster are the only home releases to contain this mix. Disney+ has the digital 5.1 remix created for the DVD in 2000.
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55	!! Tropes applying to the 1991 UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis game based on the 1940 Disney film:
56	* ChristmasRushed: The game was rushed for a Christmas 1991 release, specifically to tie in with the film's VHS release. [[https://www.sega-16.com/2006/11/interview-ken-balthaser/ Sega's head of product development at the time]] [[CreatorBacklash regretted the decision]], admitting that the result was unfinished bordering on unplayable.
57	* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The game was hit with a cease and desist from Roy E. Disney, [[NoAdaptationsAllowed who insisted that no adaptations of his uncle's work be made]].[[note]]He was reportedly not aware that Disney licensed out ''Fantasia'' to Sega at all[[/note]] As a result, all future sales and advertising of the game had to stop and every unsold copy had to be destroyed. However, because Sega had previously been successful with ''VideoGame/CastleOfIllusion'', Disney compensated them for lost sales and gave them favorable conditions for future games.

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