Line #98 RuinedFOREVER/WebOriginal


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2	* There are more than a handful of Web 1.0 fans/oldtimers who feel that all social networking sites from Facebook to Twitter has rendered the internet RUINED FOREVER, especially when it relies on who you know offline.
3	* Every time Website/{{Facebook}} announces new privacy settings, a new profile layout, or more people join, people complain that it's not as good as it used to be.
4	* Website/MySpace suffered from this as well, as their version 2.0 profile layouts were considered inferior for most users, to the point unused spare 1.0 profiles became a hot commodity among the Myspace RP scene. Most agree that they began to JumpTheShark once they started copying Facebook.
5	* [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] beat the fans to the punch when he unveiled the new musical intro to ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'', noting at the end of the video that "I'm certain some of you pricks are already putting this down as my shark jumping moment". They were. (The update to his website that week was titled '[[TheyChangedItNowItSucks You Changed It, Now It Sucks]]'.)
6	* Lots of fans were angry when Ben Leffler came out with ''VideoGame/ExMortis 3'', the third of a trilogy of flash games. Problem was, this time you had to pay $20 to get the full version, where the first two had been free online games. Granted, there was a free demo version, which was nice, but was composed only of the first level and revealed none of the plot. Fans who weren't willing to cough up 20 bucks were not happy.
7	* The Transformers Wiki timeline, as quoted in the page above, has such gems as:
8	-->"'''13500000000 BC''': The Big Bang creates the universe as we know it. The protons, neutrons, and electrons that will eventually compose Transformers are formed, thereby ruining the Transformers franchise forever."
9	-->"'''1964''': [[Creator/{{Hasbro}} Hassenfeld Brothers]] introduces G.I. Joe, the first "action figure." The action figure industry is simultaneously born and ruined forever."
10	-->"'''November 26, 2010''': The Transformers: Prime miniseries premieres on The Hub, ruining Transformers forever."
11	-->"'''December 17, 2011''': The Hub screens the first two episodes of Rescue Bots, and the brand is ruined forever by kiddification"
12	** It also has a page on the subject, which lists a good amount of Transformers series that ruined the franchise FOREVER and also happens to link to the one for [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks "GEEWUN"]]
13	** In fact, they were the first to have a Ruined FOREVER page. ''This'' Wiki ''and'' the ''Franchise/StarWars'' one are [[FollowTheLeader following the leader]]. Probably, any wiki about a long-running franchise will either have one or be ''sorely'' in need of one before long.
14	* Website/DeviantART's new Version 7 layout has sparked much complaining as well, as it takes forever to load and crashes some browsers. The developers say it's to look good on the iPad, yet there is still no support to write journals on the iPhone format.
15	** And the new membership system, hoo boy, everyone complained how it made them look like beggars because it said "Needs Premium Membership" on their page (although they had [[HypocriticalHumor stamps saying "I wish I had a subscription so I could use this stamp]]") and that it also displayed who donated a membership and whatnot... DAT RUINED MEMBERSHIP STATUS FOREVER!!
16	** The new deviation and journal "stacks" system is now in effect, meaning that you'll no longer have some 20 pages of deviations to look through on your message bar (as well as journals) since it organizes things into stacks by artists. The complaints are really starting to roll in, [[{{Wangst}} to the point there's stamps made issuing how horrible this feature is]].
17	** Don't get certain Deviants started on [[{{Fetish}} fetish art]].
18	*** It gets worse: In September 2023, [=DeviantArt=] began enforcing rules on which types of fetishes and NSFW art are allowed and which types aren't, but some mistook it for a "policy change" and either [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere left]] or were banned as part of the enforcement.
19	** Website/DeviantArt has a different logo? [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!]]
20	** They're changing the design to this Eclipse thing? BLASPHEMY!
21	** Me? Paywall and "watchwall" any of ''my'' deviations? No thanks!
22	** A sidebar? What the hell does a sidebar have to do with [=DeviantArt=]?
23	** [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Changes to]] Core Membership on [=DeviantArt=], as well of the introduction of "fragments," prompted some to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere leave the website for other places]].
24	** Donation pools gone? RUINED FOREVER!
25	** Now they're treating status posts like deviations! Did Wix come up with this excuse for an idea?!
26	*** Journals, status posts and polls no longer count as deviations? RUINED FOREVER!!!
27	** Deviants are no longer allowed to repost journal updates?! [[SarcasmMode THANKS A LOT, WIX!!!]]
28	** What's this? "Subscriptions"? Is [=DeviantArt=] starting to become Wix's answer to either [=YouTube=] or Patreon? EITHER WAY, NO WAY AM I EVER GONNA TOUCH THAT ONE WITH A 10-FOOT POLE!!!
29	** Cryptocurrency?! But that is banned in some places! WHAT THE HELL, WIX?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
30	** [=NFTs=] (non-fungible tokens)? [[GreenAesop We need to protect the environment]], but [=NFTs=] do more harm to it than good! WHY, WIX, WHY?!?!?!?!
31	** [=DeviantArt=] got flak for changing the notifications system, layout and all. Some deviants have even decided to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere flee the site because of it]].
32	** They gutted Muro? RUINED FOREVER!!!
33	** Now they're telling us to introduce [[RememberTheNewGuy new deviants at random]]? Nope, never heard of those people.
34	** They froze [=GIFs=] that were uploaded to the website as deviations unless we click on them? WIX, YOU DONE SCREWED UP AGAIN!!!
35	** They're updating the "Watch" section of notifications ''AGAIN?!'' I AM NOT FINE WITH THIS!!!
36	** No more search bar in the favorites section? HOW DARE YOU, WIX?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?![[note]][[StatusQuoIsGod This proved to be temporary, however,]] as Wix re-added the favorites search bar on May 31, 2023.[[/note]]
37	*** To add insult to injury and fuel to the fire, in the spring of 2023, [=DeviantArt=] was criticized for denying its users the ability to edit their galleries anymore.
38	** Don't get certain deviants started on "[=AI=] art".
39	*** To exacerbate this madness, [=DeviantArt=] introduced "[=DreamUps=]", which prompted many deviants to empty their entire galleries and [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere quit the site in protest]]. Such madness has even gotten [=DeviantArt=] sued for using a controversial software, known as Stable Diffusion, used to generate much of the "AI art" that has run rampant on the site.
40	** Later in 2022, [=DeviantArt=] got further flak for marking almost every deviation as "mature content" in a bid to attract advertisers to the site. Various deviants, some of whose deviations are family-friendly (that is to say, lacking fetishes or other things that are not work-safe), were displeased with this.[[note]]However, that problem is only present to anyone with a [=DeviantArt=] account that they're logged out of. Those without one are required to sign up for one, but that has already been known from the get-go.[[/note]]
41	** Wix is dropping support for [=DeviantArt=]'s app?! [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!]]
42	** What's this? "Private Collections"?! GRRRRRRR!!!
43	** What?! You can't give the same deviant Core for exactly a year ''after'' you gave them Core?!?!?! RUINED FOREVER!!!!
44	** In April 2024, [=DeviantArt=] was criticized for denying non-Core members the ability to make polls anymore. That's not to say that it would entirely be permanent, [[LoopholeAbuse as non-Core members could still make polls just by clicking on "Posts" on their profiles]].
45	* ''Website/{{Neopets}}'', when it went through a site overhaul and the pets got re-drawn so users could put clothing and stuff on them without giving the artists a headache. Yes, there IS now a degree of sameness that takes some of the fun out of the pets (the Meerca no longer stands on its tail, the Usul no longer looks demonic when angry/upset), and every new change introduced thereafter has sparked outrage and threats to leave across the boards.
46	** Or even earlier, when they started integrating advertising tie-in games and items.
47	** As soon as the solution to the Bonju avatar was discovered, people began complaining that the avatar was "ruined forever".
48	** Wait. What's that? ''[[AllegedlyFreeGame ...Neocash?]]'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck ...no.]]
49	** A world [[AllegedlyFreeGame you can't enter without paying for a subscription?]] HOW VERY DARE THEY!
50	** They got rid of Dating Threads? DAMN YOU!
51	** Some early fans weren't happy when they removed the human-type pets such as the original Bruce design. And this going along with growing out of the idea that there were humans, such as you, in Neopia ''at all'' - which did kind of subvert the original concept of Neopets - didn't help.
52	* Ironically, the posters at the 'official' [[http://www.jumptheshark.com/index.jspa Jump The Shark]] site demonstrate a tendency to do this; it seems that, for most (if not all) currently running shows, every week something happens to have its fans cry that the show has now jumped the shark (when it seems that they actually mean this trope). There have even been instances of people logging on ''immediately after the very first episode'' of a particular show to bemoan how something they didn't like is a clear evidence of a shark being jumped, despite the fact "jumping the shark" is supposed to be a moment when a show makes some radical departure from the original cast/premise/tone/etc., and the first episode is ''by definition'' the original cast, premise and tone.
53	** Even more ironically, Jump the Shark itself was said by almost ''everyone'' to be ruined forever when TV Guide decided to remove the ability to post and stripped about 95% of the site's content.
54	* When Website/GameFAQS.com and [=GameSpot=].com merged their forums, everyone lost their minds, positive that this would instantly fill every board on [=GameFAQS=] with flaming, trolling, innumerable spelling errors, and just general horror. While it's true that for a while after the merge, you could click on just about any abysmal post's poster and be told that they were, in fact, a [=GameSpot=] user, the general idiocy levels only increased slightly overall, and it wasn't long before terrible posts were as uncommon as ever and you'd find interesting and insightful posts from [=GameSpot=] users as often as from [=GameFAQS=] users. Nonetheless, many [=GameFAQS=] users still quote [=CJayC=] as saying that he'd never merge [=GameFAQS=] with another site.
55	* Website/GaiaOnline, anytime the slightest change is announced. Boy, and '''how''' the users do whine. And yet they never leave the site...
56	* Website/YouTube:
57	** The massive overreaction when it was announced that they were making deals with major studios to put movies and TV shows on the site. Granted, that might actually be because of the widespread 'Ruined Forever!' outcry generated by an oft-circulated video, as well as news which was leaked onto various online articles at the time. It's possible that [=YouTube=] decided not to go through with the changes after the criticism.
58	** [=YouTube=] has been getting this more and more with every redesign, especially "One Channel."
59	** [=YouTube=] became even more ruined forever as of 2020, with the new changes made for the sake of children privacy. For example, the comment section for all videos "meant for kids" such as various cartoons (including adult cartoons!) has been automatically disabled, which doesn't sit well with most people.
60	*** To add insult to injury and fuel to the fire, in December of that year, [=YouTube=]'s decision to disable comments on all auto-generated music was met with cries of this, meaning that viewers would now have to look up the music video versions of the songs just for the comments.
61	** Between late 2020 and early 2021 (date unknown), [=YouTube=]'s auto-generated subtitles became much more ruined forever when they decided to replace swear words (well, ''most'' of them) with underscores in brackets...which is fine if you're one of the MoralGuardians, but not so much so if you like watching videos with spoken/sung swear words in them. It doesn't help that some of those swear words sneakily appear within normal words, leading to a ScunthorpeProblem.
62	*** Even worse, in January 2022, [=YouTube=] got flak for disabling closed captioning on videos that don't have it.
63	** They made unlisted pre-New Year's Day 2017 videos private? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!
64	** They hid dislike numbers on '''''all''''' [=YouTube=] videos?!?! DAMN YOU, WOJCICKI!!! I HOPE SOMEONE REPLACES YOU!!!
65	** Don't get anyone started on [=YouTube=]'s alleged defense of pedophilia and shunning of [[PaedoHunt those who oppose it]].
66	** What's this? [=YouTube=] Premium? Oh no...
67	** What's this? [=YouTube=] Shorts?! DID WOJCICKI THINK '''''THAT''''' WAS A GOOD IDEA?! IT'S NOT TO US!!!
68	** Now there are good news and bad news: The good news is that almost all [=YouTubers=] now have a "Community" section on their channels' page. The bad news is that bot-generated comments are flooding the comments section on all videos that have one (not that all [=YouTube=] videos have a comments section).
69	** Now there's talk of bringing [=NFTs=] to [=YouTube=]. And boy, is it discomforting.
70	** What's this? [=YouTube=] is employing ad-block detection? SCREW YOU, GOOGLE!!! WE DIDN'T WANNA GET SPAMMED WITH MALWARE-LACED ADS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
71	* When Fark.com did a site redesign back in 2007, many claimed the site was Ruined Forever. The outcry of "It sucks, change it back!" prompted annoyed moderator [=JeffK=] to comment "You'll get over it." Amusingly, the userbase has indeed gotten over the redesign, but they still haven't forgiven Jeff for telling them to get over it.
72	* The Gawker family of sites did a massive redesign in early 2011 that was not well-received. The backlash was pretty huge, prompting things like [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/2/11/ this Penny Arcade comic]]. However, this seems to be more than just a vocal minority, as it's been reported that traffic to Gawker sites has dropped 25% since the redesign.
73	* Website/MyAnimeList now has a new layout and navigation page. Cries of "Ruined FOREVER!" were shouted almost immediately after these changes were announced. There's even '''''a club''''' at the site demanding MAL to change back to the side panel.
74	* And for a lampoon on [[Website/TVTropes this site]], head over to the JustForFun JustForFun/RuinedFOREVER page.
75	* For another lampooning, the ''WebVideo/HitlerRants About'' videos on Website/YouTube parody the idea of ruined FOREVER relentlessly.
76	* Pick any VideoReviewShow. If said reviewer doesn't deliver just ONE episode up to normal standards, prepare for cries of ruined forever.
77	* Averted: On the WebAnimation/RedVsBlue Revelations commentary, Burnie Burns says that he and the others were scared that they did this with the new pre-rendered scenes that didn't use the Halo engine. This technology was used to amp up the action scenes and do things that weren't possible using the games. However, their fears were put to rest when they debuted it at a Convention and everyone cheered like mad.
78	* WebVideo/EpicMealTime had lots of people complain it had jumped the shark (naturally meaning this trope) when they did their Drunken Mess video.
79	* Toyota Motors decided to put [[Music/{{Vocaloid}} Miku Hatsune]] in a few of their commercials. The fan reaction is predictable. Sankaku Complex has put up several responses from both America and Japan right [[http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/07/09/fan-outrage-at-toyota-miku-ads-stop-americanizing-miku/ here]] (side columns NSFW).
80	* Netflix's price increases are causing this from a lot of users, with a lot of them angrily [[RageQuit threatening to cancel their service]].
81	* A strange in-universe example with WebVideo/TheIrateGamer and his "Breakfast Rants". He complains about minor cosmetic changes to breakfast cereal, including different marshmallows in Lucky Charms and Cinnamon Toast Crunch having only one of the three original bakers on the box. He even ends his rants with "Face it, breakfast is ruined!"
82	* Some users of Mario Paint Composer felt this way after the use of soundfonts became so popular that it eventually came to be regarded unfavourable to NOT use them.
83	* With the addition of ''JustForFun/InspectorSpacetime'', Website/TVTropes itself is '''[[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=61695&view=findpost&p=2034972 RUINED FOREVER]]'''.
84	* The LetsPlay/{{Yogscast}} are now suffering from this, with the announcement of their new game, Yogventures. Your Mileage May Very when it comes to the validity of the FanDumb's grievances.
85	** There was another case of BrokenBase when the game was announced as cancelled due to TroubledProduction.
86	* Many people reacted this way when Microsoft Office 2007 replaced the traditional toolbar with a new ribbon toolbar that was so unfamiliar to them after using the traditional toolbar for decades. When other programs started upgrading their toolbars from traditional to ribbon, people who loved the traditional toolbar became even more outraged.
87	* Creator/DougWalker [[WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee killed off]] WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic?! CHANNEL AWESOME is RUINED FOREVER.
88	** Creator/DougWalker brought back the Nostalgia Critic?! RUINED FOREVER.
89	** The Nostalgia Critic employing sketches in his videos? RUINED FOREVER.
90	** The Nostalgia Critic [[BizarroEpisode doing a]] LetsPlay? RUINED FOREVER.
91	** [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Spoony]] left CHANNEL AWESOME?! RUINED FOREVER.
92	** We shouldn't even get started on the [=#ChangeTheChannel=] controversy.
93	* WHAT?! WebVideo/JonTron left WebVideo/GameGrumps to focus more on his ''own'' videos?! They got this random Danny dude from some band called "Music/NinjaSexParty" to replace him?! RUINED FOREVER!
94	** Why isn't Dan on the middle slot anymore? Don't they know he's our FAVORITE!?
95	** WHAT?! They're asking people to subscribe at the ends of videos now?! RUINED FOREVER!
96	** WHAT?! "WebVideo/SteamTrain?!" [[RuleOfThree RUINED FOREVER!]]
97	* Website/{{Tumblr}} was bought by Platform/{{Yahoo}}?! RUINED FOREVER.
98	** They've changed the dimensions of posts?! RUINED FOREVER.
99	** Tumblr's decision to disallow NSFW content on their website on December 17, 2018 (by order of then-owner Verizon, who bought Yahoo! in 2017), forced NSFW artists to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere head elsewhere]].
100	* LetsPlay/HatFilms are doing ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'' videos with LetsPlay/{{Sips}} and LetsPlay/{{Turps}}, good friends of theirs? RUINED FOREVER!
101	* LetsPlay/{{Sips}} is doing more ''VideoGame/GarrysMod'' videos than anything else due to an unavoidable hard drive accident and the deletion of his footage? RUINED FOREVER!
102	** Long before the hard drive crash, we had this: Turps is joining Hat Films and Sips in ''VideoGame/PropHunt'', ''VideoGame/{{Murder}}'' and ''VideoGame/TroubleInTerroristTown'' to offset there only being four players? RUINED FOREVER.
103	** Okay, so Turps has gotten better... wait, LetsPlay/LewisBrindley is joining? RUINED FOREVER! Come December, Lewis has stopped appearing? RUINED FOREVER.
104	* So far the Website/SCPFoundation has been RUINED FOREVER by...
105	** [[DenserAndWackier LOLFoundation]] articles and Author Avatars making things too campy.
106	** {{Grimdark}}!Foundation and lack of interesting characters leading to TooBleakStoppedCaring.
107	** too much crosslinking, which will lead to coattail riding.
108	** not enough crosslinking, which is leading to ContinuityLockout.
109	** efforts to implement a reasonable amount of crosslinking.
110	** VideoGame/SCPContainmentBreach and the NewbieBoom it introduced for the site.
111	** having too many [=SCP=]s that are short and simple.
112	** having too many [=SCP=]s that are long and/or complicated.
113	** having too many [=SCP=]s that are boring because they are neither short and simple nor long and complicated
114	** having too many [=SCP=]s that rely entirely on the a-thing-that-does-a-thing formula, leading to lack of narrative depth.
115	** [Data Expunged]
116	** having too many [=SCP=]s that rely entirely on story to make up for simple or cliche anomalies.
117	** having too many over-the-top [=SCP=]s with sweeping apocalyptic potential which gets old.
118	** having too many subtle and realistic [=SCP=]s which aren't anomalous and are lame.
119	** having too many [=SCP=]s with long testing logs, because they aren't needed by any article ever.
120	** not having enough [=SCP=]s with in-depth testing logs that fully explore interesting facets of an anomaly.
121	** having too many [=SCP=]s that use [[PaintingTheMedium format screws]] as a DancingBear.
122	** having too many {trait} [=SCP=]s.
123	** depictions of D-class using ComedicSociopathy making the Foundation look cruel.
124	** depictions of D-class as an endless RedShirtArmy possibly derived from cloning being unrealistic.
125	** depictions of D-class as a sympathetic characters being narmy and making the Foundation look even more cruel.
126	** attempts to phase out or reinterpret D-class.
127	** {Insert Group of Interest} being stupid/overused/lame/formulaic/unrealistic/too similar to another GOI/new/old.
128	** just plain [=GOI=]'s as a concept.
129	** unfunny -j SCP's (non-canon joke [=SCP=]s).
130	** -j [=SCP=]s in general, including the funny ones.
131	** some highly rated older articles not being up to modern site standards.
132	** attempts to update older articles to modern site standards.
133	** [[MemeticMutation Spheres, bees, corncrakes, and Bernie Sanders]]
134	** LGBT characters
135	* WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} [[spoiler: killed off several characters and changed tone a little?]] FUCK THAT SHOW!
136	* Most of the post-[[ScheduleSlip hiatus]] ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'' toons are not the Brothers Chaps' usual humour. Combined with the fact that the Chaps are open to fans licking their boots via their Twitter account...
137	* [=Wikifoundry=] hasn't updated [=ReCaptcha=] and thus I can't edit [=CLG=] Wiki anymore? [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!]]
138	* WebVideo/{{SuperMarioLogan}} fans reacted ''very'' negatively when it was announced that the Mario plushies cannot be used anymore, following a DMCA from Creator/{{Nintendo}}.
139	* [=OnlyFans=] is banning adult content? But that was the reason [=OnlyFans=] existed! WHAT IN TARNATION?![[note]][=OnlyFans=]'s decision was later reversed due to outcry.[[/note]]
140	* [[Website/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]] changed its desktop site layout for the first time in over a decade to a mobile-esque thing? WE DO NOT APPROVE OF THIS!!![[note]]Even if you can still use the old layout by making an account, going into preferences at the top right, and changing the appearance via the "appearance" tab to "Vector Legacy"[[/note]]
141	* Elon Musk acquired Twitter? RUINED FOREVER!!!
142	** Twitter is not letting non-users view posts unless they log in or create an account? BOOOOOOOO![[note]]Even if this was said to be a "temporary measure" to prevent data scraping from AI services[[/note]]
143	** Twitter is changing its name to X? WHAT WAS MUSK THINKING?
144	* In 2024, Gumroad decided to pull a Tumblr by banning NSFW content, and this didn't bode well with NSFW artists and other members of the NSFW community.

Context RuinedFOREVER / WebOriginal