Line #40 NightmareFuel/TheDarkKnight


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8	->''"Do you wanna know how I got these scars?"''
9	-->--'''The Joker'''
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11	''Film/TheDarkKnight'' is heavily known as [[DarkerAndEdgier the darkest movie]] in Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy (which is already saying something), and is arguably a [[NightmareFuel scarier]] watch than any Franchise/{{Batman}} film to date, due to its many tense and frightening moments, the conflicting battle between order and chaos, and its '''''[[ComicBook/TheJoker nightmarish villain]]''''', who represents everything in chaos.
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14	[[folder: The Joker]]
15	* ''[[BigBad The Joker himself]]'' is a potent combination of NightmareFuel and premium ParanoiaFuel. If he's after you then he will get to you somehow, no matter how impossible it should be.
16	* In most incarnations, the Joker is somewhere on the scale between comedic violence (Nicholson) and violent comedy (Romero and Hamill). What made Creator/HeathLedger's Joker so scary is that Nolan removed the comedic aspect, but Ledger still played him as ''[[ItAmusedMe if he was doing everything because it amused him]]''.
17	** In fact, his performance even scared two actors during the scene where Joker crashes the party: Creator/MichaelCaine and Creator/MaggieGyllenhaal. Caine stated that he was so scared that he forgot his lines, and Maggie couldn't look at Ledger when the Joker was threatening Rachel with a knife.
18	* The Joker's makeup. Not only is his permanent GlasgowGrin already terrifying enough, but the huge amount of eyeshadow he wears means that in many scenes (especially the interrogation scene) it looks like he doesn't even have eyes. The sight of those two black husks staring at the camera is enough to cause nightmares even before he does anything.
19	** There's also the fact that, unlike many other iterations of the character, this Joker's skin is not all white. In many places, it's possible to see his natural skin tone contrasting with his white face makeup, giving us a stark reminder that at the end of the day, the Joker is just a human. While the white skin often distances the Joker from traditional humanity, here we're reminded that this guy is an ordinary person who manages to cause this much horror and chaos.
20	* The Joker repeatedly claims through the film that he was not born a psycho, and states it only takes a day bad enough to turn a good man into something like him. It is never clarified if he is saying the truth or if he is just messing with people, as he makes fun of the whole concept of the FreudianExcuse. This leads to the inevitable question: ''[[NothingIsScarier Did something]]'' happen to the man who would become the Joker? And in that case, ''what'' was it?
21	* Three simple words: "Why so serious?"
22	* When the Joker pulls a knife towards Gambol's mouth, he delivers a disturbing monologue:
23	-->'''Joker:''' Do you wanna know how I got these scars? My father was a drinker... and a fiend. And one night, he goes off crazier than usual. Mommy gets the kitchen knife to defend herself. He doesn't like that. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Not. One. Bit]]. So, me watching, he takes the knife to her; laughing while he does it. He turns to me, and he says, "Why so serious?" He comes at me with the knife. "Why so serious?" He sticks the blade in my mouth. "Let's put a smile on that face!". And... why so serious?
24	* When the Joker finishes his story, he glances at one of Gambol's cronies and asks him "why so serious?" before brutally slashing and (presumably) murdering Gambol.
25	** What's worse: we see the terrified reaction of the crony at the moment of Gambol's apparent death...but [[NothingIsScarier we don't actually see what the Joker does to Gambol...]]
26	* Right at the very end, when Batman throws the Joker off the rooftop. Joker's reaction? Laughing maniacally every inch of the way... and being ''disappointed'' when Batman saves him.
27	** Made even more chilling by his own previous comment that people show who they really are in their last moments. [[TheMentallyDisturbed What does the Joker do when he's falling to his death?]] Start LaughingMad.
28	* The infamous scene where the Joker demonstrates a magic trick to a group of men.
29	-->'''The Joker:''' How about a magic trick? (''slams a pencil into the table, point first'') I'm gonna make this pencil disappear...\
30	(''Gambol's crony stands up and goes to attack him. In one swift motion, the Joker then slams the man's head onto the pencil, [[EyeScream forcing the entire pencil - eraser first - through his eye socket]]; the crony collapses to the floor, dead, taking the pencil with him'')\
31	'''The Joker:''' [[FauxAffablyEvil TA-DA! It's, ah, it's gone.]]
32	* One of the most terrifying Joker-related scenes comes from when Batman interrogates him and the Joker reveals he's kidnapped Rachel in addition to Harvey, and they both have mere minutes to live. Batman [[UnstoppableRage goes berserk]] and [[JackBauerInterrogationTechnique starts trying to beat]] their location out of the Joker, up to slamming his head against a reinforced glass window so hard the window actually cracks. All Batman's severe beating does to Joker? [[NightmareFetishist It only makes him laugh HARDER!]] It only gets worse when you think about the Joker's line, "You have ''nothing'', ''nothing'' to threaten me with. Nothing to do with ''all'' of your strength!".
33	** What makes that line from Joker even more terrifying is that it makes Batman momentarily pause. ''He knows the Joker is right.''
34	* A really horrifying scene is where the Joker tells Rachel the second scar story. Something about the whole scene reeks of sexual predation, and to make it even more horrible, there's the fact [[GroinAttack she knees him in the nuts]], and [[TooKinkyToTorture he actually LIKES it!]]
35	* One of the most NightmareFuel-filled moments was surprisingly one of the most low-key -- when the Joker is videotaping/shooting his nightmare-porn of Brian the Batman Impersonator and orders Brian to "Look at me. '''[[SuddenlyShouting LOOK!]] [[PunctuatedForEmphasis AT!]] [[EvilSoundsDeep ME!]]'''". That scene gets worse when Brian is done delivering the Joker's message [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness and is of no more use to him]]. The camera cuts out just as Joker descends on the panicked hostage. The distorted sounds that are heard just before the tape ends, especially since we can't make out ''[[NothingIsScarier anything]]'' [[NothingIsScarier happening in the last bit of footage... ]] When the newscaster says, "Sensitive viewers, be aware. The image is disturbing," he's not kidding.
36	-->'''Joker:''' You see, this is how ''crazy'' Batman's made Gotham! You want order restored, Batman must take off his mask and turn himself in. Oh, and every day he doesn't, people ''will'' die. Starting tonight. '''I'm a man of my word'''. (''laughs psychotically as he drops the camera; Brian screams, footage abruptly cuts out'')
37	** And then you get to a moment later on in the film, when Joker burns his half of the money: one of Wayne's employees, Coleman Reese, has decided to go on to GCN and publicly reveal Batman's identity... only for Joker to call in and state he had [[FalseReassurance a "change of heart"]] concerning Batman's identity.
38	--->'''Joker:''' (''on the phone'') I had a vision... of a world without Batman. The mob ground out a little profit, and the police tried to shut them down one block at a time. And it was so... [[VictoryIsBoring boring]]. I've had a change of heart. I don't want Mr. Reese spoiling everything, [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves but why should I have all the fun?]] (''[[OhCrap Reese becomes mortified]]'') Let's give someone else a chance. [[KickTheDog If Coleman Reese... isn't dead... in sixty minutes, then I blow up a hospital]].
39	** There's also the discovery of Brian's corpse. Mayor Anthony Garcia was warning Harvey Dent that his arrest of 549 mobsters might put him in even more mortal danger. Right on cue, Brian's corpse [[JumpScare suddenly bangs into the window Garcia is looking through]], hung from a noose, wearing the Joker's makeup and facial scars. This scene is the nightmare fuel page picture for ''NightmareFuel/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' as a whole.
40	* One minor tidbit about the money burning scene: Joker had gone out of his way to kidnap Lau from jail in order to figure out where the mob kept their money. He proceeds to take half of it and stack it up into a pyramid, with Lau being placed on top of the pile... [[MoneyToBurn and then has his guys set the pile ablaze]]. [[KilledOffscreen We never see Lau again for the rest of the scene, or the rest of the movie.]]
41	* The Joker's little WouldYouLikeToHearHowTheyDied speech.
42	-->'''Joker:''' Do you want to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick, you can't savor all the.....''little emotions''. You see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I knew your friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were [[AintTooProudToBeg cowards?]]
43	** Right before that speech, he tauntingly asks the officer guarding him how many of the guard's friends that he's killed. When the guard curtly responds that the Joker has killed six of his friends, the Joker mouths ''"Six?"'' back at him, leading to one of two interpretations: one, the Joker is mockingly pretending to be horrified at his own depravity; two, he's ''disappointed'' that six is ''all he's gotten.''
44	* The defining moment for the Joker was standing in the street as the Batpod race towards him muttering [[StrikeMeDownWithAllOfYourHatred "Come on, come on, I want you to do it, I want you to do it."]] He is utterly prepared to actually die just to corrupt the Batman. After that, you realize that there was really no stopping him.
45	* Christopher Nolan originally thought of bringing us a more terrifying, twisted and psychopathic Joker. [[https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/new-concept-art-dark-knight-envisions-alternate-jokers/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiQ5-CqmdnoAhWNI7kGHZLjC3oQFjAMegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3yQ3qPb_sX1gBOk2CQqUdP&cf=1 Here]] you can find the original designs for this Joker. However, Christopher Nolan felt that this Joker did not fit his "Universe" so he decided change something to the Joker.
46	* [[JumpScare The sequence where we see a first-person view of Batman's sonar vision and the Joker lunges right in his face.]] Ledger's Joker, in general, looks like a difficult-to-identify and terrifying stranger who might approach you in a dark forest.
47	* During the attempted assassination of the mayor/ Gordon's DisneyDeath; the guard who fires upon Garcia? '''That's the Joker.''' And he [[https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/batman/images/f/f4/The_Joker_without_makeup.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20081217012834 looks]] ''nothing'' like he does in the rest of the movie; even with the GlasgowGrin, you still can't really tell it's the same person.
48	* Almost the entirety of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zyhQjJ5UgYthe Joker's theme]]. One particular part can shock a few. Once the theme gets quiet, it then builds up a note, a musical HopeSpot as if it's going to transition into Batman's theme with a higher note...''boom''. You're suddenly hit with a ''deep'' ScareChord, a low booming note that drags on for what feels like minutes. It almost feels as if Joker, on top of everything he had done in the film, is even actually controlling the ''music'', [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou just to screw with the viewer themselves!]]
49	** That agonizing [[HellIsThatNoise screeching crescendo]] at the start is a perfect encapsulation of the person it represents. (How did they get that sound? They played a violin ''with razor blades''.)
50	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqS7HIJ6oog Agent Of Chaos]], the music that plays when the Joker is being interrogated only to escape and Batman is trying to save Rachel, while at the very end, it slips into TearJerker territory to parallel her death, the vast majority is very intense, chaotic and adrenaline filled, hinting at a great and terrible danger. It truly feels like it could be a second {{Leitmotif}} for the Joker himself.
51	* [[http://www.moviechronicles.com/batman-dark-knight/batman-images/the-joker/2008-08/creepy-early-joker-concept-art/ This]] early concept art of Creator/ElijahWood as the Joker is arguably creepier than Heath Ledger himself. The fourth and final image in particular looks like a demon you would see peering into your bedroom window during a night terror.
52	* One of the scariest aspects of The Joker is that he is a true OutsideContextProblem. The clown is such an out-of-the-blue threat for Batman, the cops and the mob that ''none'' of their tactics work on him:
53	** The mob puts out a hit? Joker fakes his death and uses the opportunity to take out the only mobster that wants to kill him.
54	** The police finally arrest him and want him tried like any other mafia enforcer? They find ''nothing'' on him. No fingerprints, no dental work, no trace of any identity. Like he [[DiabolusExNihilo just appeared]] out of thin air.
55	** Batman busts out his aggressive interrogation tactics to find out Harvey Dent's location? The Joker laughs in his face and mocks him despite the heavy blows hitting in the head. Batman, much like the cops, has nothing to threaten him with. Joker makes it very clear that he's in control, not The Bat.
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58	[[folder: Harvey Dent/Two-Face]]
59	* Two-Face. [[SarcasmMode Don't worry if you really wanted to see what happens to him.]] Yes, it's scary enough that it was chosen to represent the NightmareFuel section of a movie ''full'' of nightmare fuel. Let that sink in.
60	-->'''Wuertz:''' Dent? Jesus... I thought you were dead.\
61	'''Harvey:''' ''Half.''
62	** In the scene where Harvey reveals himself, his face is obscured by the pillow, but you can see the black charring and the blood on the cloth. All you can think is [[NothingIsScarier "Oh God, I'm not ready for what he looks like under there."]] And yeah...[[FaceRevealingTurn you're not]].
63	--->'''Two-Face:''' [[NightmareFace Why should I hide... who I am?]]
64	* The worst part about Two-Face was when he kidnapped Gordon's family, and Commissioner Gordon, whom many tropers strongly identify as a father figure, cried and begged helplessly for their lives. The thought of a father (whose job is being ''a policeman,'' no less) being unable to protect his children is just pure NightmareFuel. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NdV7-rOt2Y The music]] in that scene, appropriately titled "Watch the World Burn", just makes the whole thing so much more intense. It starts off quiet, but gradually becomes louder to the point where it's ''unbearably'' intense. There's just something in there that truly and absolutely defines Harvey's SanitySlippage.
65	-->'''Two-Face:''' Tell your boy it's going to be alright, Gordon. ''Lie,'' like I lied.
66	* The Joker aims to destroy Gotham City from the inside out, and part of his "plan" involves corrupting the city's heroes -- Batman and Harvey Dent -- by making their lives hell until they snap. Thankfully, he doesn't succeed with Batman. Harvey Dent, however...
67	%%* The song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvjhVemg1vA A Little Push]] which plays when Harvey interrogates Thomas Schiff. It sounds like something right out of ''Film/BatmanBegins''.
68	* As scary as Ledger's Joker and Two Face are in the film, [[https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dOgziNj4qyo/VPTLshEdN_I/AAAAAAAAyow/lJhr3z3mydI/s1600/Rob_Bliss_The_Dark_Knight_Two-Face-Concept_26.jpg the early concept art]] is [[https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kYP1VEUqiso/VPTLmMP03nI/AAAAAAAAyoc/iEC-27rfq6M/s1600/twoface-01.jpg really something else...]] The first iterations of Two-face were more realistic, with less extensive damage; test audiences actually found the more subdued, realistic damage to be so unsettling, to the point of unintentional NauseaFuel, that the Two-Face we currently see was used instead. The Joker pales in comparison to Two-Face's scar-ified half of his face. ''[[{{Squick}} What]]'' [[{{Squick}} is keeping his]] '''[[{{Squick}} EYEBALL]]''' [[{{Squick}} in the]] '''[[{{Squick}} SOCKET!?]]'''
69	** It's mentioned when Gordon visits Dent in the hospital that he's been refusing pain meds or skin grafts. When he confronts Wuertz later, he takes a shot of whiskey and some of the burning liquid pours through the holes in his face down the exposed muscle. He doesn't even flinch.
70	* Harvey Dent interrogating Thomas Schiff. Not only is Schiff's unhinged giggling and bug-eyed stare off-putting, but Harvey brings some serious lashings of nightmare fuel on his own. He conducts the interrogation in a back alley rather than at the police station, demonstrates that the gun he brought is ''not'' a toy before pointing it at the man's head, then states that he'll decide Schiff's fate by the toss of a coin. This is the most respected man in Gotham.
71	** This one zig-zags a little; when Dent flips the coin, he tells Schiff that he'll shoot him if the coin comes up tails. It's revealed later on that it's a double-sided coin, both heads. Meaning Dent had no intention of shooting Schiff. However, the fact that he would use such intimidation tactics on a mentally ill person doesn't really paint Dent in the most morally upstanding light, and this is ''before'' he becomes Two-Face. Even Batman calls him out on it.
72	--->'''Batman:''' You'd leave a man's life to chance?
73	** It gets worse. As Batman walks away and declares his intention to turn himself in, Harvey tells him he can't give up now. When Batman does not answer, Harvey [[SuddenlyShouting repeats himself abruptly and rather loudly.]] And as he does, half his face is hidden in darkness...
74	--->'''Harvey:''' You can't. You can't give in. ''YOU CAN'T GIVE IN!''
75	* Harvey Dent screaming in silent agony in the hospital after realizing that Rachel died. From there his SanitySlippage is evident, especially following ComicBook/TheJoker's disturbing HannibalLecture on him.
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79	* Alfred's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc speech]] on being in Burma, just because of how true it felt.
80	-->'''Alfred:''' A long time ago, I was in Burma, my friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never found anyone who traded with him. One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away.\
81	'''Bruce:''' Then why steal them?\
82	'''Alfred:''' Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. [[ForTheEvulz Some men just want to watch the world burn.]]
83	** When Alfred later finishes the story with how they caught the bandit, he flatly states, "We burned the forest down." In order to get the bandit, Alfred was forced to give the bandit literally what he wanted, and in the process, became a man as cold and unrelenting as the bandit himself; a man who would burn everything around him just to get at his goal.
84	* A fat lunatic complains of stomach pains and rants that the Joker told him that a light would come from his stomach [[PsychopathicManchild in this high, childish tone]]. It comes out of his stomach all right... [[SomebodySetUpUsTheBomb in the form of a bomb]] the Joker ''[[WhyAmITicking implanted inside of him]]''.
85	* Though Scarecrow only shows up in one scene, he's still making his horrifying fear toxin and now evidently contaminating recreational drugs with it. When the Chechen brings a victim of the toxin to Scarecrow to show him, the poor victim can be heard screaming, ''"Please! They're crawling in my mouth! Get them off!"''
86	-->'''The Chechen:''' Look what your drugs did to my customers!\
87	'''Scarecrow:''' [[DeadpanSnarker Buyer beware]]. I told you my compound would take you places. ''[[ExactWords I never said they'd be places you wanted to go.]]'' [...] If you don't like what I have to offer, you can buy from someone else. [[ParanoiaFuel Assuming, of course, that Batman left anyone to buy from me.]]
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Context NightmareFuel / TheDarkKnight