Line #104 NeverLiveItDown/ComicBooks


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13	!!The following have their own pages:
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20	* Whether as a ShoutOut, coincidence, or someone involved in the comic actually having something to do with the site, ''Witch Girls'' has two characters named Denora [=DeSade=] and Claudia who are quite similar to characters with the same names from the long-defunct transformation fetish site "The Shrinking Sorceress". Cue detractors of the recent, better-known RPG spinoff ''TabletopGame/WitchGirlsAdventures'' (which features the same characters and a rather large amount of artwork dedicated to witches transforming helpless victims into various objects) ranting about how it's a clean version of the site and nearly every adult character is lifted from it. MANGA GRAPHIX, the company that publishes ''Witch Girls'', is mentioned in the copyright blurb on ''[[http://web.archive.org/web/20010411183322/www.geocities.com/gotiger_1999/Sorc1.html Shrinking Sorceress]]''. [[http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Malcolm/Harris Malcolm Harris]], the author of ''Witch Girls'' and the owner of Channel M (which owns WGA), lists himself as a writer for MANGA GRAPHIX in his resume.
21	* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'':
22	** Sally Acorn had her own share of moments which did not really help [[BaseBreakingCharacter her reputation for some]]:
23	*** In issue #134 of, Princess Sally slapped Sonic across the face. Since then, some fans have used it as "evidence" that Sally has always been a bitch. However, that one instance was terribly out of character (per editorial order), and since then she's been restored to her old self. More than [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten a few call backs have been made to this moment]] in-universe later on (usually with Sally shown to be highly remorseful about it), something that is almost certainly an attempt to fix this treatment with fans.
24	*** What makes it funnier is that she had already shown worse acts of dickery in the past. Take for instance that issue in which Sonic fell under mind control by Robotnik. Her reaction when she realized Sonic was under mind control? Ordering without hesitation to have him ''drowned''. Granted, the stakes were high as Robotnik ordered him to show him Knothole's location, but you would think that she would try to come up with a better solution than ''murdering'' Knothole's champion.
25	** Within the wider ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' community, however, Sally Acorn will never live down her status as the CanonForeigner who violated the "dress code" of the franchise, due to her original set of clothes from ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM''. Or more accurately, her distinctive ''lack'' of clothes [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sally_acorn_archie_sonic_girls_18101999_200_345_1.jpg other than a mere vest and boots]] (and she didn't even wear the vest in the earliest issues!), which made her a rare example of a female AccessoryWearingCartoonAnimal in a franchise known for strictly limiting such outfits [[PantslessMalesFullyDressedFemales to male characters]]. Many ''Sonic'' fans were caught off-guard by how "naked" Sally looked [[NonStandardCharacterDesign compared to much of the female cast]], especially after the comics began to shed its EarlyAdaptationWeirdness in favor of [[TheArtifact following the mainstream games more closely in style]]. Some even viewed Sally as a outright ShamelessFanserviceGirl because of this, despite her actual portrayal and personality not even being close to one. Even today, any time the concept of AppropriateAnimalAttire is mentioned or discussed in the context of ''Sonic'', or sometimes any other work featuring {{Funny Animal}}s, expect Sally Acorn to be brought up sooner or later. [[labelnote:Fun fact!]] Ever wondered why two of the article pages exiled to our Administrivia/PermanentRedLinkClub were titled "Naked Sally" and "Sally Was The Naked One" respectively? [[TropeNamer This is why]]. Their purpose was to describe the same kind of AudienceReaction that Sally's design elicited, something which NeverLiveItDown already covers.[[/labelnote]]
26	** Some fans, especially those who hated the character, will never live down the fact that Antoine used to be a {{cheese eating surrender monkey\|s}}, completely ignoring that he TookALevelInBadass. It doesn't help that some Sonic fans only watched the ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM'' cartoon, where he didn't get any CharacterDevelopment. Sonic himself [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten references it]] in Issue 204.
27	--->'''Sonic:''' Remember your old yellow streak?\
28	'''Antoine:''' Oui. I recall it all too well.\
29	'''Sonic:''' Because I totally could bring it up right now.\
30	'''Antoine:''' I know.\
31	'''Sonic:''' I've got a list.\
32	'''Antoine:''' Stop eet.
33	* While ''ComicBook/NovasAventurasDeMegaman'' ''did'' have rampant nakedness, that only started with issue 12 of 16. The comic is now mostly known for this.
34	* ''ComicBook/TheWalkingDead'':
35	** Lori will always be remembered as the bitch who lets down her husband and cheated on him with his best friend. Even a decade later, she is still loathed by many.
36	** Sebastian Milton will be forever remembered as a man who [[spoiler:shot and ''killed'' Rick Grimes.]]
37	* Creator/AlanMoore supposedly including rape or some kind of extreme sexual atrocity in almost all of his stories, an allegation to which he has written [[https://slovobooks.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/last-alan-moore-interview/ a lengthy response]]. There's a reason he had to tell people that no, [[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Joker didn't rape Barbara Gordon.]]
38	--> '''Creator/GrantMorrison''': I was reading some Alan Moore ''[[ComicBook/{{Miracleman}} Marvelman]]'' for some reason today. I found one in the back there and I couldn't believe. I pick it up and there are fucking two rapes in it and I suddenly think how many times has somebody been raped in an Alan Moore story? And I couldn't find a single one where someone wasn't raped except for ''ComicBook/TomStrong'',[[note]]In fact, Tom Strong did get raped at least once and possibly twice in the series, depending on how you think Ingrid Weiss got that sperm sample[[/note]] which I believe was a pastiche. We know Alan Moore isn't a misogynist but fuck, he's obsessed with rape.
39	* Despite CharacterizationMarchesOn, Betty from ''ComicBook/ArchieComics'' is known by many for being a bit ''[[{{yandere}} too]]'' obsessed with Archie.
40	* ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'': Due to the sheer memetic-ness of his dedication to '''THE LAW''' (thanks to Creator/SylvesterStallone's [[LargeHam hammy portrayal]] of him in the [[Film/JudgeDredd 1995 film adaptation]]), it can be surprising to new readers to find that Dredd is actually one of the more ''sensible'' Judges. Judge Dredd is fairly unique among long-lived comic book characters in that he ages in real time, and his personality [[CharacterDevelopment gradually changes over the years]] as he increasingly questions his role. Despite this, fans still often think of him as being obsessed with '''THE LAW''' and arresting criminals. He doesn't even use that CatchPhrase very much.
41	* Simon Furman, a well-respected writer known for his extensive ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' work, will never live down his... interesting ideas regarding the gender of Cybertronians or [[MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecial his attempt to "justify" Arcee being female]]. He asserts that Cybertronians are all genderless beings who use male pronouns because they do -- something that doesn't fly right with many to begin with -- and that Arcee used to be just like that, until she was experimented on and given a forced gender reassignment, and this experiment turned her into a bloodthirsty psychopath. Needless to say, many were concerned what this story was saying about gender and transgender issues, as well as why it was so... weird. Eventually this was retconned away by later writers, and it was established that female Transformers ''do'' exist, and all new ''Transformers'' universes after said story have made female Cybertronians commonplace.
42	* ''[[ComicBook/{{Asterix}} Asterix and the Falling Sky]]'' is often perceived as a crass and xenophobia-tainted rant against manga, and as such ended up nigh-universally reviled and often put on the table as a reason why Creator/AlbertUderzo should have stopped helming the series alone. He eventually retired a few years later, due to increasing pain in his hands preventing him from drawing. It still induces negative views of the man among French fans of comic books and/or manga.

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