Line #61 Music/PublicImageLtd


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3	Public Image Ltd. ([=PiL=] for short) are a PostPunk band (and possibly an UrExample of the genre/aesthetic) formed by Music/JohnLydon in 1978 after his departure from the Music/SexPistols, a move that freed him to pursue his interest in [[AvantGardeMusic experimental music]], [[{{Reggae}} dub]], [[ProgressiveRock prog rock]], and various other types of music that were ''non grata'' in the world of late 70's PunkRock that the Pistols had helped cultivate. The group has gone through a bewildering range of changes of [[RevolvingDoorBand personnel]] and musical styles, and occasional hiatuses, and at this point effectively consists of Lydon and whoever else is in the band at the moment.
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5	The group has at various points included, among others, Jah Wobble and Keith Levene (founder members), [[Music/{{Cream}} Ginger Baker]], Music/SteveVai, and Music/{{Magazine}}'s John [=McGeogh=].
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7	The band split in 1992, and Lydon attempted a solo career (that only resulted in a single album, ''Psycho's Path'', which bombed) and then reunited The Music/SexPistols. In 2009, Lydon reunited [=PiL=] with a lineup consisting of Lydon, former members Lu Edmonds and Bruce Smith, and multi-instrumentalist Scott Firth. A new album, ''This Is [=PiL=]'', was issued in May 2012; a follow-up, ''What the World Needs Now...'', was released in September 2015. The band's next album, ''End of World'', will be released in August 2023.
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9	!!Studio discography:
10	* ''First Issue'' (1978)
11	* ''Metal Box'' (1979) (an hour of music packaged as 3 12" 45 RPM discs in a metal film can)
12	** ''Second Edition'' (1980) (double album reissue of ''Metal Box'' without the elaborate packaging)
13	* ''The Flowers of Romance'' (1981)
14	* ''This Is What You Want...This Is What You Get'' (1984)
15	* ''Album'' (1986, also called ''Compact Disc'' and ''Cassette'' depending on the format)
16	* ''Happy?'' (1987)
17	* ''9'' (1989)
18	* ''That What Is Not'' (1992)
19	* ''This Is [=PiL=]'' (2012)
20	* ''What the World Needs Now...'' (2015)
21	* ''End of World'' (to be released on 11 August 2023)
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23	!!''May the tropes rise with you'':
24	* AlbumFiller: [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] for "Fodderstompf", which was slapped together at the last minute to meet the 40-minute runtime quota that the band's contract with Creator/VirginRecords specified:
25	-->We only wanted to finish the album with the minimum amount of effort
26	--> Which we are now doing very successfully
27	* AlbumTitleDrop: ''This Is What You Want, This Is What You Get'' in both "Bad Life" and "The Order of Death". Also BrokenRecord in both cases.
28	* AlternativeRock: Transitioned to the genre after [[IAmTheBand the other members beside Lydon left]].
29	* AntiLoveSong: Averted with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aumejrcEHs "This Is Not A Love Song"]], which is more of a double-edged TakeThat at the music biz ''and'' fans accusing Lydon of selling out. Probably.
30	* AvantGardeMusic: Their early music (particularly ''Metal Box'' and ''The Flowers of Romance'') was never commercial in the slightest; Lydon even called ''The Flowers of Romance'' one of the least commercial albums ever created.
31	* BrandX: ''Album'' parodies the trope in its title and cover art, the latter of which takes after the packaging for generic goods in Ralphs grocery stores.
32	* {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Some of the band's members gained this reputation, not helped by an UrbanLegend that alleged one of them tried to set Music/{{the Fall\|Band}}'s drummer Karl Burns on fire during a recording session.
33	* DarkerAndEdgier: The creative output of Public Image Ltd. as a whole is this to John Lydon's previous work with the Sex Pistols. ''Metal Box'' in particular stands out as a surprisingly bleak record for someone who once irreverently proclaimed himself "an Antichrist".
34	* DoubleMeaningTitle:
35	** The title ''Second Edition'' fits this trope on several levels. It's the group's second album, it's the second edition of the album (as noted, it was originally released as a set of 12" singles in a metal film canister as ''Metal Box''), and it's the second edition of the band itself (with original drummer Jim Walker replaced by a variety of session players).
36	** One of the songs from that album, "Careering", also fits this trope as described below.
37	* EpicRocking:
38	** ''First Issue'': "Theme" is 9:13, and "Fodderstompf" is 7:46.
39	** ''Metal Box''/''Second Edition'': "Albatross" is 10:32, and "Poptones" is 7:46.
40	** B-side "Home Is Where the Heart Is" is 7:34.
41	** ''Album'': "Ease" is 8:09.
42	* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin:
43	** ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album_(Public_Image_Ltd_album) Album]]'', aka ''Compact Disc'' or ''Cassette'', depending on the format. Might also count as ShapedLikeItself, since, well, it's what the cover says it is.
44	** Similarly, "Rise", from that album, has the word "Single" printed prominently on its cover (with "12 inch" added on the 12" version, of course).
45	* FaceOnTheCover: [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]]. Lydon is on the front cover of ''First Issue'', but Levene appears on the front of ''Second Edition'', while band associate Jeannette Lee is featured on ''The Flowers of Romance''.
46	* FlowersOfRomance: The TropeNamer. John Lydon named the song after a band his sometime friend Sid Vicious had led before joining the Music/SexPistols, which itself took its name from Baudelaire's ''Les Fleurs du mal'' ("The Flowers of Evil"). "Flowers of Romance" deals with an imminent breakup:
47	-->Behind the dialogue
48	-->We're in a mess
49	-->Whatever I intended
50	-->I sent you flowers
51	-->You wanted chocolates instead
52	-->The flowers of romance
53	-->The flowers of romance.
54	* GreatestHitsAlbum: ''The Greatest Hits, So Far'', which had a chronological track-listing (covering 1978 through 1990), and featured one new song, "Don't Ask Me".
55	* GreenAesop: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHKn_gk8WV8 "Don't Ask Me"]].
56	* GriefSong: "Death Disco", aka "Swan Lake", is about the death of Lydon's mother. This may not be immediately obvious.
57	* HiddenDepths: People were surprised to find that Johnny Rotten is a fan of Progressive Rock. Keith Levene also had a background in prog as a former roadie for Music/{{Yes}}.
58	* IAmSong: "Public Image", which Lydon [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Image_(song) described]] as "[[TakeThat a slagging]] of [[Music/SexPistols the group I used to be in]]" when it was first released. He claimed that his former bandmates were concerned only with the Pistols' outrageous image, neither knowing nor caring what his lyrics were about.
59	-->Two sides to every story\
60	Somebody had to stop me\
61	I'm not the same as when I began\
62	I will not be treated as property
63	* IAmTheBand: Following Levene's expulsion, Lydon took over as de facto band leader and the only constant member.
64	* InsistentTerminology: In interviews, John Lydon and Keith Levene would insist that Public Image Ltd. wasn't a band, it was a communications company.
65	* ItsBeenDone: Music/{{Flipper}} came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released a LiveAlbum called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
66	* LeadDrummer: On ''The Flowers of Romance'', Martin Atkins' drums are as prominent in the mix as Lydon's vocals, sometimes overshadowing Levene's guitar and synthesizer.
67	* MadnessMantra:
68	** "We only wanted to be loved" from "Fodderstompf".
69	** "This is what you want, this is what you get" from "The Order of Death".
70	** "Mob, war, kill, hate" (which sounds an awful lot like, "Love, war, fear, hate" It's hard to tell, but Lydon has said that the former version is correct) from "Chant".
71	* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: Lydon likes [[PlayingWithATrope playing with this trope]]. A lot.
72	* MarsAndVenusGenderContrast: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in "Like That" (aka "Just Like A Woman"), with the "Just like a woman/and every man" refrain.
73	* NewSoundAlbum:
74	** ''The Flowers of Romance'' dropped the metallic guitars and thick basslines in favour of a proto-PostRock sound consisting of percussion textures and aural chaos, inspired by Music/PeterGabriel[='s=] ''Music/{{Melt}}''. It wasn't just that they'd ''heard'' the album, though. There was also an in-house connection: Nick Launay, who produced ''The Flowers of Romance'', knew and was friendly with both ''Melt''[='s=] producer, Steve Lillywhite, and the album's engineer, Hugh Padgham, as he had earlier worked with them as an assistant on various projects.
75	** ''This Is What You Want, This Is What You Get'' was a dance and pop record.
76	** ''Album'' began a more accessible, AlternativeRock era.
77	** ''This Is [=PiL=]'' returns to the [[{{Reggae}} Dub]] and {{Krautrock}}-inspired sound of their early records.
78	* NobodyLovesTheBassist: Averted by Jah Wobble, recognized as one of the most distinctive bass players in rock.
79	* OneWordTitle: Several examples, including seven of the 12 tracks on ''Metal Box''.
80	* PackagedAsOtherMedium:
81	** The cover images on ''First Issue'' are a series of magazine cover parodies.
82	** Similarly, the "Public Image" single originally came in a fold-out sleeve that resembled [[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers "red-top" scandal sheet tabloids]] such as ''The Sun''.
83	** ''Metal Box'' came in a film canister.
84	** ''Album'' is designed to resemble a generic product from Ralphs; the concept also carries over to the single releases of "Rise" and "Home", the title card for the former single's music video, and the home video release of ''Videos''.
85	* PunkInTheTrunk: "Poptones" is based on an incident where a girl was kidnapped, stripped naked, stuffed in a car trunk and left for dead in the woods. She was apparently able to get back to civilization and was able to describe the tape the kidnappers were playing in the car, and they happened to be playing it when they were arrested.
86	* PunnyName: The band name is not just [[DontExplainTheJoke a dig at Lydon's post-Pistols image]] (and [[ViewersAreGeniuses an oblique reference]] to Muriel Sparks' novel ''The Public Image''), but also plays up the "band as corporate entity" angle, also featured in a tendency to HeavyMeta ("Poptones", "Chant", "Death Disco" etc.) and naming records so as to [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] their status as product (''First Issue'', ''Second Edition'' aka ''Metal Box'', ''Album'') They also pronounced the acronym of Public Image Ltd.--[=PiL=]--as "pill" and, indeed, their circular logo with a diagonal line running through it was meant to imply a pill (with the line being the "scored" part of the tablet so it could be easily broken in half).
87	* PostPunk: One of the best-known bands in the genre.
88	* PostRock: One of many arguable [[UrExample Ur-Examples]], especially on ''The Flowers of Romance'' (to the point where Website/{{Wikipedia}} outright classifies that album as post-rock).
89	* RevolvingDoorBand: Lydon has been the only constant member. PlayedForLaughs with "We are a company" as a justification.
90	* ReligionRantSong: Heavily featured in ''First Issue'' ("Religion I", "Religion II", "Annalisa").
91	* RidiculousProcrastinator: The first lineup of the band had this reputation, much to the exasperation of their record company. Wobble noticed that that Keith Levene used to call the telephone in Lydon's Gunter Grove flat on a regular basis. Wobble still lived at home with his parents, and had no idea where Levene (along with Jeanette Lee) lived. He eventually realized that Levene and Lee also lived at Gunter Grove, on the floor directly below Lydon. Presumably Levene was too lazy to venture up the flight of stairs to talk to Lydon--although it seems more likely that Levene would have been (ahem) "committed to other [non-musical] pursuits to be bothered to leave his own flat.
92	* {{Sampling}}: A loop of John Lydon singing "no future", taken from the Music/SexPistols' "God Save the Queen", shows up near the end of "Acid Drops". And one extended remix of "The Body" uses the oft-sampled drum machine beat of Schoolly D's "PSK (What Does It Mean?)".
93	* SelfDeprecation: From "Fodderstompf": "We only wanted to finish the album with a minimum amount of effort, which we are now doing very successfully!"
94	* ShoutOut:
95	** Include ''Literature/TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner'' ("Albatross") and Keats' ''La Belle Dame sans merci'' ("No Birds")
96	** The cover art for ''Album'' parodies the packaging style for generic products at Ralphs grocery stores. Music/JohnLydon even appeared in print ads for Ralphs during the album's promotional campaign to highlight the reference.
97	* SpokenWordInMusic: Lydon recites the words to "The Room I Am In", a track from ''This is [=PiL=]''.
98	* StepfordSuburbia: "No Birds" (originally titled "And No Birds Do Sing" as the b-side to the 7" version of "Death Disco." This was actually a misquote as it was meant to refer to the refrain of John Keats' "La Belle Dame sans Merci: A Ballad" which repeats the line, "And no birds sing.")
99	--> This could be heaven
100	--> Shallow spreads of ordered lawns
101	--> I like the illusion, illusion of privacy
102	--> The careful trees blending so perfectly
103	--> Bland planned idle luxury
104	--> A caviar of perfect dignity
105	--> Life in lovely allotted slots
106	--> A token nice, a nice constitution
107	--> A layered mass of subtle props
108	* StepUpToTheMicrophone: Lydon is joined by Jah Wobble on "Fodderstompf".
109	* SurprisinglyGentleSong: "Hawaii", the band's entry for the 2023 Eurovision Song Contest, is an unusually calm, peaceful song dedicated to Lydon's wife.
110	* TakeThat: It's a band led by Music/JohnLydon. A ''lot'' of things and people get on his nerves. The other Sex Pistols (see IAmSong), their manager Malcolm [=McLaren=] ("Low Life", "Attack", "Albatross"), the music industry ("This Is Not a Love Song"), religion (see ReligionRantSong), UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} and its hotels ("Seattle"), Music/LouReed ("Where Are You," which appeared on "Commercial Zone" under the title "Lou Reed," parts 1 and 2. The acoustic Part 1 has a mid-to-late period Music/TheVelvetUnderground sound, but Lydon and Levene both later stated that the lyrics were about Jeannette Lee, who had left the [=PiL=] organization. In it's re-recorded form the song was dubbed "Where Are You?" a phrase which almost serves as a chorus to it.), broadsheet newspapers ("Chant"), UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush ([[FunWithAcronyms "U.S.L.S.1"]]), intrusive fans ("Banging the Door"). Every so often, for variety, he has [[SelfDeprecation a go at himself]], too. And quite a few songs are {{Take That}}s taken to a level of abstraction where you're definitely sure he's having a go at ''something'' or ''someone'', even if you're not sure exactly what or whom.
111	* ViewersAreGeniuses: Quite a few bits, notably the Muriel Spark reference in the band name, and the way "Careering" plays on the double meaning of its title.
112	* WeUsedToBeFriends: A recurring lyrical theme, even if it seems mostly to be a subtrope of JL's fondness for {{Take That}}s in general ("Disappointed", "FFF" ["Farewell, my Fairweather Friend"][[note]]Towards Keith Levene[[/note]], "Albatross"[[note]]Towards Malcolm [=McLaren=][[/note]])

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