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| 3 | ->''"Oh, you. You just couldn't let me go, could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You are truly incorruptible, aren't you? Huh? You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness. And I won't kill you because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever."'' |
| 4 | -->-- '''The Joker''', ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' |
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| 6 | "What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?" is one of the most famous formulations of a YinYangClash in the Western consciousness. As a result, it's become a {{Stock Phrase|s}} for describing any conflict between particularly strong or [[{{Determinator}} particularly stubborn]] individuals. |
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| 8 | Some people try to claim that the unstoppable force would just bounce off and continue moving, albeit in a different direction (according to Newton's third law of motion, and conservation of energy and momentum... you know: science). For this reason, the question is sometimes phrased using the term "irresistible force" instead. [[note]] it could also be argued that the force would smash through the object and/or pulverise it, requiring another stipulation that the object also be unbreakable. [[/note]] |
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| 10 | A similar concept appears in Japanese and Chinese media: the term [[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E7%9F%9B%E7%9B%BE 矛盾]], meaning "contradiction", is formed from the characters for "spear" and "shield". This is taken from a 3rd-century text that included a parable about a merchant who sold a spear that could pierce any shield, and a shield that could resist any spear; a customer pointed out the obvious contradiction, to which the merchant had no answer. |
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| 12 | '''Please note:''' This article is about the actual phrase itself. If two really strong guys fight, and no one compares them to an immovable object and an unstoppable force at any point, then the example belongs in UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny or YinYangClash. |
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| 14 | Unrelated to JustForFun/XMeetsY. |
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| 16 | !!Examples: |
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| 18 | [[foldercontrol]] |
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| 20 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 21 | * ''Manga/The100GirlfriendsWhoReallyReallyReallyReallyReallyLoveYou'': In the sports festival arc, Uto is tasked with producing a spear that can pierce any shield and a shield that can deflect any spear. Her answer? [[spoiler:A plastic fork and a paper plate. [[InsaneTrollLogic She reasons that the strongest spear wielder could pierce anything with a plastic fork and the strongest shield bearer could deflect anything with a paper plate]].]] And it works. |
| 22 | * In ''Manga/{{Aphorism}}'', Nanto and Hokuto are twin brothers who have chosen the characters 'spear' and 'shield', respectively, and end up clashing in order to obtain the book of Life to resurrect their lost sister. This was a case of an InvokedTrope, though, because the one who prompted them to it was very well aware that their characters form the word for 'contradiction' together. Their battle isn't decided up until Momiji disguises himself as one of the brothers. |
| 23 | * In ''Manga/ChuukaIchiban'' when Shell squares off against Lakon in the Shanghai arc, the judges end up declaring a tie between both chefs. When San Che wants to know why, this trope (and its origin story) is brought up to illustrate their collective opinion. |
| 24 | * ''Manga/DrStone'': When Senku shows off his paper shield design to his companions, Kinro expresses his doubt that a shield made from paper can block anything, using his spear to take down a tree with little effort. Senku decides to humor Kinro and tells him to strike the shield with everything he had. Kinro does just that... and the shield still holds. As it turns out, Senku glued molten plastic to each sheet to give it enough elasticity to absorb most of the impact. |
| 25 | * Alluded in ''Manga/Eyeshield21'', when Yamato (the original bearer of the title) and Shin (the antithesis of main character Sena) met, [[LightningBruiser both are considered the unstoppable Runner and the strongest Linebacker respectively]]. The result is sort of definite though, with Yamato managed to drag Shin with all his strength...at snail pace. To say the watchers amazed is an understatement. |
| 26 | * According to Creator/GoNagai, ''[[Manga/GetterRobo Shin Getter Robo]]'' is the unstoppable force while ''Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}}'' is the immovable object. |
| 27 | ** Their CosmicHorror counterparts the [[spoiler: Getter Emperor and Mazinger ZERO]] also fit the bill. |
| 28 | ** Also, the answer to the question is, at least in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'', '''[[RivalsTeamUp they work together]]'''. Yes, even their counterparts above. |
| 29 | * Referenced several times in ''Manga/{{Jormungand}}'' using the Chinese style pike vs shield version. Willey details the original parable in one of Jonah's lessons while the opening song for the first anime season "Borderland" contains the phrase "pike and shield" in English as a short hand for idea in the lyrics. |
| 30 | * In ''Literature/{{Katanagatari}}'', the first of the Twelve Deviant Blades Zettou Kanna was supposed to be unbreakable. The second sword Zantou Namakura was supposed to be able to cut anything. When Shichika wondered what would happen if the swords clashed, Togame guessed that Zantou Namakura would prevail since it was forged later. [[spoiler:Confirmed in the end, when Shichika's Kyotouryuu, the final perfected Deviant Blade, easily shatters Zettou Kanna.]] |
| 31 | * ''Manga/{{Keijo}}'': Atsuko's butt ability is the "Ass of Vajra" (unstoppable force), which is used as a defensive and offensive move. However, when she used it as an offensive move against Non, it was rendered ineffective by the latter's Soft Buns (immovable object) move. |
| 32 | * In ''Manga/TheLuciferAndBiscuitHammer'', Yukimachi and Subaru's paired attack and defense directly allude to this - they call their telekinetic attack "the Strongest Spear" and their telekinetic shield "the Ultimate Shield." They pick the names from a story shared by their teacher, the Master, about a spear that could penetrate any shield and a shield that could block any spear. In the hands of a single warrior, that warrior would be unstoppable. The Master then clasps their hands together, declaring the two together to be "the warrior." |
| 33 | * According to director Mitsuo Fukuda, ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'''s Strike and Aegis Gundams were designed with the Eastern version of this paradox in mind: "What happens when a sword that can destroy anything hits an invincible shield?" Hence their {{Meaningful Name}}s; "Strike" as in what a sword does, "Aegis" as in [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Athena's shield]]. [[spoiler:The answer: they're both destroyed. Time for a MidSeasonUpgrade.]] |
| 34 | * In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', the legendary Third Raikage possesses, on top of a [[LightningBruiser strong, tough body]], an [[ElementalArmor impregnable defense]] and [[UnblockableAttack indefensible offense]] through using his [[ShockAndAwe lightning chakra cloak]]. [[spoiler:The only way he could be wounded was to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard turn his attacks on himself]].]] |
| 35 | * In ''Anime/PokemonTheSeriesDiamondAndPearl'', Rampardos is described as the unstoppable force/spear that can break any shield and Bastiodon is described as the immovable object/shield that can't be broken. They battle. So you might be wondering what happens when Roark's Rampardos battles his father Byron's Bastiodon. The answer? [[EvasiveFightThreadEpisode The battle is interrupted due to Team Rocket before it can be resolved]]. |
| 36 | * ''Literature/TheRisingOfTheShieldHero'': Discussed. Right before their duel, Motoyasu pointed out to Naofumi that, as the Spear Hero and the Shield Hero respectively, they were comparable to them... Before adding that Motoyasu's greater level (about twice Naofumi) and the Shield's lack of offensive abilities gave him the advantage. [[spoiler:Motoyasu wins... By unknowingly cheating: Naofumi had made the same reasoning and carried a number of Orange Balloons (the most basic monster mooks) on himself because they couldn't harm ''him'' but could cause at least some harm to Motoyasu, and thanks to that and a number of creative uses of the Shield's abilities (including a ''counterattack'' one) gained the upper hand until [[ManipulativeBitch Malty]] shot Naofumi with a wind spell in the back, allowing Motoyasu to pin Naofumi down and claim victory without realizing he had been helped]]. |
| 37 | * Discussed in ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' during Seiya's early fight with Shiryu and even referred to as such. In a twist, Shiryu's in possession of ''both'': his shield is too strong for Seiya to breach while his Cloth has a right gauntlet just as hard on top of his considerably greater raw strength. Seiya ultimately solves the conundrum by tricking Shiryu into attacking him in such a way that when he dodges, he ends up punching into his own shield. [[spoiler:The shield breaks, but Shiryu also breaks the gauntlet and hurts his hand in the process and is forced to continue the fight without his Cloth.]] |
| 38 | * ''Manga/TheSeveringCrimeEdge'': Apparently the reason why the Crime Edge (an indestructible sharp pair of scissors that can cut anything) can cut Iwai's otherwise unseverable hair. |
| 39 | * Referenced in the anime of ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'' by Hoppared the Gauntlet, who declares himself as an invincible shield and [[TheGunslinger Vash's]] guns as an unstoppable spear. |
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| 41 | |
| 42 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 43 | * ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk'': |
| 44 | ** In issue #272, the Hulk and [=Sasquatch=] ram {{Wendigo}} [[http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/TheIncredibleHulkv2-272-21.jpg using downed trees, with Wendigo in the middle]]. |
| 45 | --->The Wendigo becomes the immovable force between two irresistable objects. |
| 46 | ** This phrase is more overused in The Hulk than anywhere else. Whenever the writers want [[strike:belabor]] to impress that an opponent is a serious physical challenge to Hulk, they will be one of these, and Hulk will be the other. |
| 47 | * ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'': |
| 48 | ** "ComicBook/SupermanAndSpiderMan": Superman calms down The Hulk by planting himself on the ground and letting the Hulk hit him, thinking that when he decided to become the Immovable Object, no Unstoppable Force could move him. He also hinted that he didn't want the Hulk to get any angrier, or he might become more than even he could handle. |
| 49 | --->'''Backcover blurb:''' ''Irresistible force meets immovable object as the Incredible Hulk clashes with the Man of Steel!'' |
| 50 | ** ''ComicBook/AllStarSuperman'' has Superman being asked this question. His solution? "They surrender." (since neither is immovable or irresistible anymore). He got this from the back of a newspaper he read previously. |
| 51 | --->'''Ultra-Sphinx:''' '''Answer. Acceptable.''' |
| 52 | ** ''ComicBook/AMindSwitchInTime'': Superman and ComicBook/{{Superboy}} flied into each other as travelling through the timestream. They wound up swapping bodies as ripping the laws of physics a new one. |
| 53 | ** In ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' crossover "ComicBook/FromEterniaWithDeath": Skeletor tries to break into the Castle Grayskull, but its gates remain undented after withstanding a blow which opened a rift in the fabric of reality. Later, after mind-controlling Superman, Skeletor wonders whether his unparalleled strength might succeed, and orders him to smash the gates down. Nonetheless, Superman breaks free of the spell before crashing into the doors, so the outcome of such a clash remains uncertain. |
| 54 | * From a ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'' tie-in: What happens when [[EmotionControl the Medusa Mask]] is used against a [[TheHeartless Black Lantern]] possessed Kal-L? Well if you guessed "the resulting RealityBreakingParadox would destroy booth of them", you were right. |
| 55 | * ''ComicBook/XMen'': When Chuck Austen was asked in a interview; what would happen if the unstoppable ComicBook/{{Juggernaut|MarvelComics}} runs into the immovable Blob? He replied... |
| 56 | --> "They'd pound on each other until they were both so exhausted that they'd just lay down and watch videos. Porn, of course!" |
| 57 | ** The toy review site OAFE.net answered this question [[http://www.oafe.net/toons/quix/110601.php with a toy comic]]. Basically, they shake hands and say hi. (Which makes a lot of sense in-story: the Juggernaut and the Blob have both been members of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, although they are rarely on the team at the same time.) |
| 58 | ** ''TabletopGame/MarvelSuperHeroes'' RPG, knowing its readers, provides an answer to this. "Juggernaut could move The Blob by destroying the ground underneath his feet, unless he was sitting on a planet made of Adamantium" (it didn't say what would happen in that case, however). |
| 59 | ** One ExpandedUniverse novel had them fight each other. Juggernaut won, because Blob flinched before the impact. Marko internally noted that had Dukes not flinched, the collision would have been ''really'' painful. |
| 60 | ** This has actually happened in comics; The Blob's status as "immovable" is more a BadassBoast on his part than an actual assessment of his powers; while he is ''extremely'' difficult to move, the Juggernaut, the Hulk, and [[ComicBook/XFactor Strong Guy]] have all successfully moved Blob through sheer force. In every case it's been via hitting him so hard that whatever surface he's planted himself on gets broken off from the rest of the ground.[[note]]Blob's power (aside from extreme durability) is a form of gravity manipulation that lets him very firmly attach his feet to whatever he's standing on.[[/note]] |
| 61 | ** ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': There's a train taking Nick Fury, and Colossus gets in the railroad to stop it. But he does it under protest: there's a chance he may stop it, right, but also that the train would squash him like a bug. |
| 62 | [[/folder]] |
| 63 | |
| 64 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 65 | * ''Fanfic/ConnectingTheDots'' had Sasuke's sword of {{Kusanagi}} vs. Franchise/WonderWoman and her gauntlets. The sword dented the gauntlets, shocking them both--Sasuke because it didn't cut through, Wonder Woman because it dented them at all. |
| 66 | * ''Fanfic/EarningHerStripes'': To demonstrate that she's stronger than she looks, Taylor tests her power against Madison's "good steel". All previous testing has indicated that "good steel" is indestructible; Armsmaster's nanothorns break when trying to cut it, and even Sophia's intangible state can't get through it. However, Taylor's power, which is similar to the Siberian from canon, basically tells physics to go and sit in the corner. [[spoiler:It's difficult for her to bend good steel, taking orders of magnitude more force than ripping her entire school off its foundations and lifting it into the air, but she can do it, and it can't penetrate her force field. She does speculate, however, that if she extended her field over "good steel", it would become unbreakable even to her.]] |
| 67 | --> '''Madison:''' Nothing breaks good steel. ''Nothing''.\ |
| 68 | '''Taylor:''' ...I'm pretty sure my power just says, "More force? Yes," when it's trying to do something like that. |
| 69 | * In the ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' fic ''Fanfic/NatureStudies'', Sam Vimes watches a showdown between a charging rhinoceros and Sergeant Detritus bracing to meet it head on. He reflects that Vetinari was banging on down at the palace about the old philosophical conundrum of what happens when the irresistible force meets the un-moveable object. He reflects the Patrician would give something of personal value to witness what happens next... and then the two met. |
| 70 | ** Elsewhere, the first meeting between trainee Witch [[MotherRussiaMakesyouStrong Alexandra Mumorovka]] and trainee Assassin [[TykeBomb Famke Smith-Rhodes-Stibbons]] is likened to this, by an older Witch who is present. Neither wants to give an inch to the other. But Lexi's LawfulNeutral meets Famke's ChaoticNeutral and both, unwillingly and without admitting it, begin to learn from the other. |
| 71 | * In the ''Series/BabylonFive'' fic ''FanFic/AFightingChance'', a Minbari fleet charging a wall of [=EarthForce=] dreadnoughts who can see through their stealth is described as an irresistible force running in an immovable object. [[spoiler: The Minbari almost broke through, but at that point the human ships [[MacrossMissileMassacre fired thousands of missiles at them]], annihilating their fleet]]. |
| 72 | * In ''Fanfic/ShinobiOfTheHighSeas'' both Naruto and Lucci are surprised when a kunai imbued with wind chakra cuts the latter's hand. Naruto because it didn't take his hand off; Lucci because it did any damage at all. |
| 73 | * The end of Naruto's and Lee's fight in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9920512/7/Reaching-for-a-Dream Reaching for a Dream]]'' consists of Lee opening the Chakra Gates and pummeling Naruto who's forced to use a defensive technique that greatly reinforces his body but leaves him functionally immobile. |
| 74 | * In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4499696/1/Blink Blink]]'', the Kyuubi tries to destroy the Shinigami's seal and learns what happens when an unstoppable force (himself) meets an immovable object (the seal): time stops until he stops trying. Because Naruto's immune to it, he gains the moniker of "Blink" because if you close your eyes, even to blink, when facing him they'll never open again. |
| 75 | * ''Fanfic/LegendarilyPopular'': Ash's Swellow is immune to electrical damage, and liberally uses the move Electrify, which changes incoming attacks into electricity. Then an opponent uses [[OneHitKill Destiny]] [[TakingYouWithMe Bond]], and Swellow tries to Electrify that too. |
| 76 | --> [[spoiler:Swellow's electrical immunity divided by zero, and the entire arena was filled with a mighty explosion of sparkling light.]] |
| 77 | * In the ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'': |
| 78 | ** Celestia's brothers Turris and Leo are the Gods of Unbreakable Defense and Force/Breaking Barriers respectively. This means Turris can create [[StoneWall barriers and shields nothing can pierce]] (not even the [[WeaponOfMassDestruction Concept Killing Spear]], the single most dreaded weapon in existence) and Leo [[TheJuggernaut cannot be stopped once he gets going]] no matter what's in his path. While trying to [[spoiler:stop Celestia from bringing the Windigos to Earth in a well intentioned but foolish attempt to remove hatred from existence]], Leo accidentally runs into Turris's barrier. The end result is both are knocked silly with neither winning out. |
| 79 | ** Princess Anasi, [[spoiler:Trixie's Dark Future Alicorn self]], is the Goddess of Trickery and Illusions, as such she can produce illusions nothing can pierce. Princess Veritas [[spoiler:Applejack's potential Alicorn]], is the Goddess of Honesty and can pierce any lie. While not shown, Anasi implies the same thing would happen as with Leo and Turris if their powers clashed against each other. However, Nightmare Mirror, due to not being a Concept and an incomplete version of Veritas, ''can't'' pierce Anasi's illusions and her truth vision [[NoSell simply doesn't work on her]]. |
| 80 | * A particularly literal example of this theory put into practice in the fanfic ''Fanfic/DangerousTenant'', as ruthless and genetically-augmented megalomaniac Albert Wesker [[spoiler:is thrown into the TARDIS as his base explodes, colliding with the central time rotor, the force of the impact knocking him out long enough for the Doctor to inject Wesker with a new virus that 'cures' Wesker of all his enhancements, while the TARDIS itself is undamaged by the impact]]. |
| 81 | * Explicitly quoted in the ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''/''Series/{{Heroes}}'' crossover ''Fanfic/{{Interventions}}'', when the final battle pits Sylar against [[spoiler:Xander, who has recently acquired the power of immutability; Sylar can knock Xander down and destroy his clothes, but he can hit Xander with everything from telekinetic force to poisonous gas and it won't actually stop him, although Xander freely acknowledges that he can't actually hurt Sylar in turn]]. |
| 82 | * ''Fanfic/{{Persephone}}'': Gobber describes Stoick and Hiccup's discourse as like setting [[TooMuchAlike two diamonds]] against one another; only they can make any meaningful impact onto one another and eventually one will break. |
| 83 | * The phrase is used by Funny Valentine to describe his feud with [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Johnny Joestar]] in ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14230521/chapters/33060219#workskin Keeping Up With The Joestars]]''. After Johnny lost 10k on the Steel Ball Run, but had no way of proving that it was actually a scam, he started dedicating his life to annoying Valentine, and succeeding. |
| 84 | -->''Think of it as the "immovable object vs unstoppable force" analogy. Valentine was patient and perpetually calm while Johnny was a very irritating and resourceful kid.'' |
| 85 | * ''Fanfic/WhereYouAndICollide This'' gives this role to Autobot Prowl and Decepticon Jazz and their relationship is further explored in the [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5578593/1/Where-You-and-I-Collide sequel]] as well as this bonus [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6159787/1/Addicted-to-You oneshot]]. |
| 86 | [[/folder]] |
| 87 | |
| 88 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 89 | * ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'': Thor's Hammer vs Captain America's Shield. The result? The force of the impact doesn't hurt Cap, but is instead reflected into a shockwave that levels all the forest in their vicinity. The phrase isn't used in the movie itself but in the wider MCU, Thor's movie called his hammer the ultimate weapon and Cap's movie called his shield the ultimate defense. |
| 90 | * From ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', after Batman knocks the Joker off a building [[ThouShaltNotKill and then fires his grappling cable to save his life]]: |
| 91 | -->'''The Joker:''' Oh, you. [[PungeonMaster You just couldn't let me go]], could you? This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. [[IncorruptiblePurePureness You are truly incorruptible, aren't you?]] Huh? You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness. [[ItAmusedMe And I won't kill you because you're just too much fun.]] I think [[JokerImmunity you and I are destined to do this forever]]. |
| 92 | * ''Film/ImagineMeAndYou'': |
| 93 | -->'''H:''' What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?\ |
| 94 | '''Luce:''' It never happens. If there's a thing that can't be stopped, it's not possible for there to be something else which can't be moved, and vice versa. They can't both exist. You see? It's a trick question, is the answer.\ |
| 95 | ''(and later, when [[spoiler:Heck has decided to leave Rachel because he knows that she's in love with Luce]])''\ |
| 96 | '''Heck''': [[spoiler:[[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy I want you to be happy.]] More than anything else, I wanted to be the cause of happiness in you. But if I'm not, then I can't stand in the way. Do you see? Because what you're feeling now, Rachel, is the unstoppable force... which means that I've got to move.]] |
| 97 | [[/folder]] |
| 98 | |
| 99 | [[folder:Jokes]] |
| 100 | * [[RussianHumor A Russian joke]] runs like this: |
| 101 | -->"Vovochka, what will happen if unstoppable force will affect unmovable object?"\ |
| 102 | "Vodka price will rise?"\ |
| 103 | "Why do you think so?"\ |
| 104 | "'Cause my dad always says: First some weird crap happen -- then vodka price will rise." |
| 105 | * A generic quip on the subject: |
| 106 | -->'''Q:''' What happens when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object?\ |
| 107 | '''A:''' They have an indescribable accident. |
| 108 | * Another: |
| 109 | -->'''Q:''' What happens when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object?\ |
| 110 | '''A:''' Creator/ChuckNorris [[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts dies]]. |
| 111 | * Alternatively: |
| 112 | -->'''Q:''' What happens when the unstoppable force meets the immovable object?\ |
| 113 | '''A:''' That would never happen, Chuck Norris would never kick himself in the face. |
| 114 | [[/folder]] |
| 115 | |
| 116 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 117 | * {{Discussed}} in Creator/RobertLudlum's book ''The Ambler Warning'' by a Taiwanese presidential candidate during a campaign speech, prior to [[spoiler:being assassinated]]. The main plot is also thematically similar: a man with the intuition to SherlockScan anybody's true self realises almost too late that he's been deceived by a highly-trained [[MethodActing method actress]] as part of the BigBad's plot. But by then, he's mostly pre-occupied with unravelling his true identity, after having been [[LaserGuidedAmnesia mind-wiped]] and given a false one. |
| 118 | * ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': Harry Dresden defines the [[BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind mind games]] between him and [[spoiler:Molly]] in this way. He has a big, obstinate castle (unmovable object) while her attacks are equivalent to several Mongolian Hordes (irresistible force). It usually ended in a draw and two headaches. |
| 119 | * In ''Literature/TheFountainsOfParadise'', a reporter uses this phrase to describe the conflict between ace engineer Vannevar Morgan, who wants to build a SpaceElevator on a mountain, and the abbot of a Buddhist monastery that has been sitting on top of the mountain for thousands of years. |
| 120 | * In ''Literature/TheGrimnoirChronicles'', the characters Jake (a 'Heavy' able to [[GravityMaster control gravity]] and alter his density) and Toru (a 'Brute' equipped with SuperStrength) have this dynamic, though the spend most of their time as uneasy allies. |
| 121 | * Invoked in the ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' series when a tremendous amount of "duodec" detonates on a planet, and the narrative states that the explosive is for all intents and purposes irresistible, while the planet is to the same extent immovable. The result is [[spoiler:the planet temporarily breaking apart, until its gravity makes the pieces crash back together]]. |
| 122 | * In ''Mazeway'' by Creator/JackWilliamson, the main characters are repeatedly asked "What happens when the all-cutting blade meets the uncuttable stone?" [[spoiler:The blade is sharpened.]] |
| 123 | * A Mensa puzzle book from 1991 uses this riddle as one of its logic puzzles. The answer is [[spoiler:an impossible event. Logically, the existence of one disproves the existence of the other by definition, and therefore the two cannot exist at the same time, therefore such an event will never occur]]. |
| 124 | * In ''Literature/RiversOfLondon - Whispers Under Ground'', after watching [[BigEater Zach]] chowing down on one of Molly's gigantic breakfasts, Peter quips about how the unstoppable cook is up against the unfillable stomach. |
| 125 | * ''Literature/TheSagaOfArrowOdd'': When Odd and Hjalmar and the Arngrimssons prepare for single combat on the island of Samsø, Angantyr Arngrimsson wants to take on Odd, because Odd has a magic shirt that is supposed to be impenetrable to any weapon, and Angantyr has the magic sword Tyrfing that supposedly can cut anything in the world. However, Hjalmar insists that he take on Angantyr, and thus we will never know whether Tyrfing would have worked on Odd's shirt. |
| 126 | * Only two people in the world of ''Literature/SoonIWillBeInvincible'' have "Invincibility" listed as a power. |
| 127 | * Used as a riddle in the far-future section in Creator/IainBanks' "Walking on Glass". The actual answer is randomly tossed out in the other narrative. [[spoiler:The unstoppable force stops, the immovable object moves.]] |
| 128 | * There are a number of "All-or-Nothing" abilities in ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' that are absolute and flat-out break the laws of physics. For example, the Siberian is utterly invulnerable and [[TheJuggernaut cannot be impeded by any obstacle]], while Clockblocker can freeze objects in time, rendering them completely immovable and impervious to any force. When Clockblocker attempts to use frozen wires to impede the Siberian, the collision is referenced by this trope, and results in [[spoiler:both powers being canceled out, with the frozen objects reverting to normal and the Siberian vanishing, as she is actually [[FightingAShadow a mental projection]].]] |
| 129 | [[/folder]] |
| 130 | |
| 131 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 132 | * In an episode of ''Series/TheAdventuresOfSuperboy'', a professor asks Superboy to help transport an insanely heavy totem pole, referring to the pole as the immovable object and Superboy as the unstoppable force. The totem pole was so heavy that even Superboy had difficulty lifting it. [[spoiler:The totem pole suddenly disappears as soon as it's completely out of its hole, releasing [[GreatGazoo Mxyzptlk]].]] |
| 133 | * ''Series/TheDefenders2017'': When Danny Rand punches Luke Cage, the result is a KungFuSonicBoom that knocks down everyone in the area, including Luke and Danny. |
| 134 | * Used in the ''Series/KnightRider'' episode "Trust Don't Rust", to describe the theoretical outcome of a head-on collision between KITT and KARR. They refer to it as "Zeno's Paradox". It threatens to become no-so-theoretical when the only way to defeat KARR involves a GameOfChicken. |
| 135 | * Referenced on one episode of ''Series/{{MASH}}'', when Hawkeye and B.J. go on a bathing strike in response to [[ItMakesSenseInContext Charles' french horn.]] When Charles refuses to budge, Hawkeye prefaces their next gambit with: "That's it! The irresistible force is about to polish off the immovable object." What actually happens is the rest of the camp forcibly hose down Hawkeye and B.J. and then run over the french horn. |
| 136 | * ''Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook'''s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF_uOgyBK1c football promo sketch]] contains this (and the similar "The giants of Charlton play host to the titans of Ipswich, making them both seem normal-sized"). |
| 137 | * In the ''Series/{{Monkey}}'' episode "Monkey Swallows The Universe", the narrator states: "When what is indestructible meets what is irresistible, the female all too often wins." |
| 138 | [[/folder]] |
| 139 | |
| 140 | [[folder:Music]] |
| 141 | * The old Johnny Mercer standard, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc6tGS0YOdA here]] sung by Fred Astaire to Leslie Caron in 1955's ''Daddy Long-Legs'': |
| 142 | -->''When an irresistible force, such as you,\ |
| 143 | Meets an old immovable object like me,\ |
| 144 | You can bet just as sure as you live,\ |
| 145 | Something's gotta give --\ |
| 146 | Something's gotta give --\ |
| 147 | Something's gotta give!'' |
| 148 | * ''Music/{{Skyclad|Band}}'' tells us in "[[BreakupSong You Lost My Memory]]" that: |
| 149 | -->''Unstoppable force and immovable object,\ |
| 150 | repel one another when by chance colliding.'' |
| 151 | * ''Music/JanesAddiction'''s "Irresistible Force (Met the Immovable Object)". |
| 152 | [[/folder]] |
| 153 | |
| 154 | [[folder:Myths & Religion]] |
| 155 | * A Greek story has a variation with the Teumessian Fox (who can never be caught) and Laelaps (a hound that can never lose its prey). Naturally, they're set on each other. Zeus, unable to tolerate this kind of paradox, [[TakeAThirdOption turns them to]] [[TakenForGranite stone]] and casts them into the sky as the constellations Canis Major (the hound) and Canis Minor (the fox). |
| 156 | * Similarly, the Nemean Lion had claws that could pierce any armor, and a hide which couldn't be pierced by any weapon. Heracles decided to [[TakeAThirdOption strangle the lion to death]], then cut its hide with its own claws to make a snazzy cloak. |
| 157 | * An old Chinese legend concerns a blacksmith who makes both shields and spears. He first pitches a customer the spears, claiming that they are so sharp, no shield can block them. He then pitches the shields, saying they are so hard, no spear can pierce them. The customer then asks what would happen if he threw one of the blacksmith's spears at one of his shields... and received no answer. This is the source of the Chinese word for "paradox;" "矛盾," or ''máodùn'', literally translates as "spear-shield.'' |
| 158 | [[/folder]] |
| 159 | |
| 160 | [[folder:Pro Wrestling]] |
| 161 | * An oft-played clip from ''Wrestling/{{WrestleMania}} III'''s iconic Wrestling/HulkHogan vs Wrestling/AndreTheGiant match is commentator Wrestling/GorillaMonsoon calling the match, "The irresistible force meeting the immovable object." |
| 162 | * From ''Wrestling/OldeWrestling Another Extravaganza Of Wrestling Exhibitions'', September 28, 2014: A collision between Jock Samson and Jerk during the Moonshinin' Men of Appalachia-Jollyville Jeepers [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5OVuBXFQSg match]] where neither guy budged led to the commentator describing it as "The irresistible force meets the immovable object." |
| 163 | [[/folder]] |
| 164 | |
| 165 | [[folder:Roleplay]] |
| 166 | * In ''Roleplay/TheBalladOfEdgardo'', the irresistible force (Raw Spirit) beats the immovable object (invincibility defenses). |
| 167 | [[/folder]] |
| 168 | |
| 169 | [[folder:Sports]] |
| 170 | * The 1999 [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague Jacksonville Jaguars]] won every game they played and were favored to win the Super Bowl...except they couldn't beat their divisional rival the Tennessee Titans. The Jaguars went 14-2 in the regular season with ''both'' losses being to the 13-3 Titans. They met for a third time that season in the Conference Championship, and again the Titans won, eliminating the Jaguars from the playoffs. For comparison sake, the Jaguars had scored 62 points in the previous game, but were held to just 14 against the Titans. The Titans would go on to lose the Super Bowl to the Rams. |
| 171 | * The phrase was in wide use referring to the 2013 [[UsefulNotes/CollegiateAmericanFootball Big Ten Football Championship game]], which pitted the Ohio State Buckeyes against the Michigan State Spartans. Ohio State was known for their amazing offense, which had led the team to a 24-0 record over the two years since the appointment of Urban Meyer as coach, while the Spartans had, by universal agreement, the best defense in the country. The immovable Spartans stopped the unstoppable Buckeyes, 34-24. |
| 172 | * The 2007 Colorado Rockies came into the World Series having won ten games in a row, including sweeping their two postseason series and 21 of their last 22. They played against the Boston Red Sox...who swept them in four games. |
| 173 | * In 1986, the Washington Redskins, led by their vaunted offensive line, met defending Super Bowl champions the Chicago Bears, led by their explosive #1 ranked defense, in the opening round of the playoffs. The Redskins held the Bears defense to just two sacks, scored 20 unanswered points in the second half, and won the game 27-13. |
| 174 | * The best offense and best defense in the NFL have met in the Super Bowl exactly six times. Five of those times, the team with the best defense has won, including two soul-crushing {{Curb Stomp Battle}}s in 1984[[note]]San Francisco 49ers over Miami Dolphins 38-16[[/note]] and 2013[[note]]Seattle Seahawks over Denver Broncos 43-8 (see below)[[/note]]. The one exception was in the 1989 season[[note]]49ers over Broncos 55-10[[/note]], and that 49ers team paired their high-octane offense with the league's third-best defense, resulting in what is still the biggest blowout in Super Bowl history. |
| 175 | * The phrase is invoked a lot in the late stages of the NFL season when two teams with great records play against each other. A humorously ironic example of this occurred in 2014, when the Seattle Seahawks and the Denver Broncos met in Super Bowl XLVIII. Both teams were an NFL-best 13-3, with the former boasting an historically great defense as the latter boasted an historically great offense. Pundits furiously speculated which force would come out on top, and widely anticipated it to be one of the greatest NFL games to ever be played. The Seahawks answered the bell by pounding the Broncos 43-8 in a game widely panned as one of the worst (or at least most boring) Super Bowls ever. |
| 176 | [[/folder]] |
| 177 | |
| 178 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 179 | * Given the [[OverNineThousand power levels]] that get slung around in ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', it usefully has a rule for what happens when a perfect attack comes up against a perfect defense: Defense ''always'' wins. [[DevelopersForesight Even if the attack explicitly says it can beat a perfect defense]]. |
| 180 | * The ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' TCG features the Unstoppable Force (a powerful mace) and the Immovable Object (a powerful shield) as equipment cards, with a special rule that [[RealityBreakingParadox you can sacrifice a copy of the Unstoppable Force to destroy all instances of the Immovable Object in play]] (and vice versa). The flavor texts of both cards even read "What happens when... ?" and "Oh, that's what happens." respectively. |
| 181 | [[/folder]] |
| 182 | |
| 183 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 184 | * In general, quite a few video game bugs can be caused by an object scripted to keep moving along some invisible course hitting some other object that cannot be moved. |
| 185 | * In ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Advance Wars]]'', you could have all the firepower boosts in the world and still not deal any damage to a unit with 200% defense or more due to how damage is calculated[[note]]base damage is multiplied by (2 - Defense/100)[[/note]]. ''Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict'' instead divides firepower by defense, ensuring damage is always greater than zero. |
| 186 | * ''VideoGame/DCUniverseOnline'': In the "World of Flashpoint" episode, [=Flashpoint!Batman=] reveals that the [=Flashpoint!Atleanteans=] and [=Flashpoint!Amazons=] have an unstoppable weapon and an unstopabbly shield, respectively. The goal of the "The Royal War" alert is to disable both the weapon and the shield. |
| 187 | * In early builds of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', bees were given collision so that they could be picked up and collide with things, but could not be moved by any amount of outside force. This caused problems with the game's scripted intro (where the player is taken in a cart to be executed) where if a bee randomly flew in/spawned in the path of the cart, the cart (scripted to keep moving until it reached the destination) would hit the unmovable bee, causing the cart to launch itself into the sky. |
| 188 | * An interesting variation occurs in ''VideoGame/Hitman2'' with Elusive Target Mark Faba, a.k.a. The Undying, Agent 47’s newest target who had managed to come back from being supposedly “killed” dozens of times. The mission essentially poses the question: what happens when a man who can kill anyone meets a man who cannot be killed? Considering that the mission repeats itself later with The Undying Returns, the answer is also interesting in that they both win: the man who can kill anyone does succeed in killing his target, and the man who cannot be killed comes back later anyway. |
| 189 | * ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'': |
| 190 | ** Xin Zhao has a [[EmoteCommand taunt]]: "[[BadassBoast Find me an immovable object, and I'll put this question to rest!]]" |
| 191 | ** Malphite's ''Unstoppable Force'' ultimate is now actually unstoppable. Before, you could knock him out of it by hitting him mid-charge with any stun or root. |
| 192 | ** Even before his release, Riot has joked that Braum using Unbreakable to block Unstoppable Force would not crash the game, but would cause all of the other players to "gather round and place bets on the Rock-Man vs. Muscle-Man boxing match that is about to go down." |
| 193 | ** In the newer lore, there's how Olaf gets to join Sejuani's Winter's Claw, the former is a nigh-unstoppable Berserker Viking that gets stronger the closer he is to death, the latter is a boar-riding lady that is [[StoneWall utterly hard to take down]]. Olaf plowed through Sejuani's forces like wet paper and their personal clash caused sonic booms throughout the realm of Freljord, and none of them gained clear victory. |
| 194 | * ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleOfSeasons'' have a miniboss who claims this of his sword and shield. You can't damage his shield, and you can only run away when he throws his sword at you. The solution, of course, is to get him to hit his shield with his sword. |
| 195 | * ''VideoGame/MarvelSnap'' has its own take on the [[ComicBook/XMen Juggernaut vs. Blob]] scenario. Juggernaut's on-reveal ability moves all opposing cards played on his turn in his location, including unrevealed/face-down ones. Blob has an ongoing ability that prevents him from being moved once he's revealed. The winner in this case is "whoever reveals first" -- Juggernaut will move an unrevealed Blob, but Blob won't be moved if he's revealed first. |
| 196 | * ''VideoGame/OnePunchManAHeroNobodyKnows'' has Saitama as a playable character, who's both the Unstoppable Force (able to defeat anyone with [[OneHitKill one punch]]) ''and'' Immovable Object (able to NoSell anything and everything.) It's possible to get two Saitamas to fight each other, and if this happens, both Saitamas are technically able to damage each other, but both remain ImmuneToFlinching, and when one's life meter reaches zero, they simply realize that [[SkewedPriorities Bargain Day at the local supermarket is almost over]] and they [[ScrewThisImOuttahere leave the fight]]. |
| 197 | * ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' has a scenario of this nature. If a [[FoeTossingCharge charging Reinhardt]] (unstoppable force) meets a [[StoneWall fortified Orisa]] (immovable object), the charging Reinhardt will be stopped, meaning the immovable object wins. And if two Reinhardts charge into each other, both will be knocked down and stunned. |
| 198 | * ''VideoGame/PerfectWorld'': A very early quest for human characters involves meeting the salespeople in Etherblade. Playing off the Chinese (spear/armor) version of this paradox, the blacksmith claims that his spears cannot be stopped by any armor, and the tailor claims that her armor cannot be pierced by any spear. |
| 199 | -->'''Player Character:''' [[DeadpanSnarker So if I bought one of the blacksmith's spears and tested it against your armor...]] |
| 200 | * Referenced in Crowned Zacian and Crowned Zamazenta's Pokédex entries in ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield''. Supposedly Zacian's sword can "cut down anything in a single strike," and Zamazenta can "deflect any attack." Fortunately for the universe, this doesn't seem to be the case in reality, as [[GuideDangIt The Pokédex has been inaccurate many times before,]] and nothing's stopping Crowned Zacian from using [[SecretArt Behemoth Blade]] to [[GameplayAndStorySegregation KO a Crowned Zamazenta.]] |
| 201 | * In ''VideoGame/RomancingSaga3'', [[spoiler: Snowman, the playable snowman who is [[NoSell immune to fire damage]] after the quest-line to recruit him serves as the Immovable Object to the boss fight Aunas' Clone a massively powerful fire entity serving as the Unstoppable Force. If the rest of the party is defeated and only those two remain, Snowman will perform a HeroicSacrifice to slay the clone and save the party. ]] |
| 202 | * In ''VideoGame/SixteenWaysToKillAVampireAtMcdonalds'', several endings involve forcing the vampire to leave the restaurant, but blocking the exit so he cannot. One such ending even describes the vampire as trapped between "the immovable object of Christ and the unstoppable force of Christmas." |
| 203 | * In the ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' universe, the True Runes were said to be born after the Sword that could cut through anything and the Shield that could stop any strike clashed. |
| 204 | * Referenced by name in a achievement for ''VideoGame/TownOfSalem'' if a [[IncreasinglyLethalEnemy fully-powered Juggernaut]] attacks a transformed [[NighInvulnerability Pestilence]]. In this scenario, the Juggernaut dies while Pestilence survives. [[note]]In-game, this is because Pestilence's Invincible Defense cannot be breached by any means, whereas Juggernaut only has a Basic Defense against Pestilence's Powerful Attack.[[/note]] There's also a special message for this scenario (and everybody who sees it gets the achievement due to how rare it is, NOT just the Pestilence and the Juggernaut): |
| 205 | --> "An unstoppable force meets an invincible object. The ground beneath your feet shudders!" |
| 206 | * Directly referenced in ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}'' while the player's Fatebinder is [[MushroomSamba high on hallucinogenic ink]]. Apparently, Rhogalus, Fatebinder of Lore, doesn't find the question enthralling. |
| 207 | --> '''Rhogalus:''' Absurd. In such a case, either [[StatingTheSimpleSolution the force is resistible or the object is moved.]] |
| 208 | * In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' there is a mace called Unstoppable Force and a shield called Immovable Object; both were among the easiest to obtain Epic gear and really good... until the release of the first expansion pack made them next to useless. |
| 209 | ** There exist several anecdotes of players asking Game Masters what happens if the two meet, with supposed answers ranging from [[RealityBreakingParadox "Chuck Norris dies"]] to [[Literature/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy "The answer is 42."]] |
| 210 | ** This also inspired the {{Joke Weapon}}s Stoppable Force and Moveable Object, two pieces of ShopFodder that were useless even when they were first released, except for the little gold they brought. |
| 211 | [[/folder]] |
| 212 | |
| 213 | [[folder:Visual Novels]] |
| 214 | * In ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight: Unlimited Blade Works'' route, Lancer[[labelnote:*]][[Myth/CelticMythology Cu Chulainn]][[/labelnote]] throws Gae Bolg at Archer, who counters by projecting Rho Aias[[labelnote:*]]Ajax's seven-layered shield[[/labelnote]]. The scene is called "Lance of Sure Hit, Shield of No Loss." Result: [[spoiler:Rho Aias is pierced, but it took pretty much all of Gae Bolg's power to do that, so Archer survives the remaining impact force.]] In an AlternateUniverse rematch these same two had in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'', Cu Chulainn as a Caster [[{{Deconstruction}} questions the logic behind this trope]], suggesting that if such weapons are as good as they say (an unbreakable shield or an invincible spear), it all boils down to the actual skill of the wielder whether they will win or not. |
| 215 | * ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'': Edgeworth tells the story mentioned under Myths & Religion above, of a weapon merchant presenting gifts to a lord; a spear which can pierce any armor, and a shield which can stop any weapon. The lord immediately pointed out the contradiction, embarrassing the merchant. This story inspired the design for the present day "King of Prosecutors" trophy; a broken shield, and a broken knife. Thematically, it's as a visual pun to the Chinese term for "contradiction", made up of the characters for spear and shield, and serves as the equivalent of Ancient Rome's "''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori memento mori]]''", to remind prosecutors they are not unbeatable. [[spoiler:The trophy as seen in the game, however, only has a shield and now lacks the spear because it was believed to be involved in the SL-9 incident.]] |
| 216 | * In ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'', During their duel in Episode 3, [[spoiler:Virgilia]] attacks Beatrice with the Divine Spear, and Beatrice deflects it with the Divine Shield. Ronove helpfully notes that this only worked because the irresistible force must never meet the immovable object. |
| 217 | [[/folder]] |
| 218 | |
| 219 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 220 | * ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'': Many fights come down to whether or not someone's attack power can get through their opponent's massive defensive capabilities, whether it be SuperToughness or a HealingFactor. |
| 221 | ** "ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} vs. [[VideoGame/MetalGear Raiden]]" pit the former's absurd HealingFactor and [[NighInvulnerable adamantium skeleton]] against the latter's [[{{Vibroweapon}} high-frequency]] [[AbsurdlySharpBlade blade]]. [[spoiler:Raiden wins due to his sword's properties being able to compromise Wolverine's skeletal structure.]] |
| 222 | ** Between [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry Dante's]] demonic HealingFactor and VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}}'s physics breaking feats of strength, this fight was labeled as such a clash in the post video. [[spoiler:While Bayonetta was stronger than Dante, she still wasn't strong enough to actually kill him while she's comparatively much frailer than he, giving Dante the win.]] |
| 223 | ** The [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] vs. [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Doomsday]] episode is described as an [[UnstoppableRage unstoppable force]] facing an [[ResurrectiveImmortality immovable object]], respectively. [[spoiler: And in this case, the immovable object Doomsday won.]] |
| 224 | ** "ComicBook/{{Carnage}} vs. [[Manga/ElfenLied Lucy]]": The former has a HealingFactor that allows him to reform from the most severe of injuries, the latter has invisible CombatTentacles with the speed and power to function as an InstantDeathRadius. [[spoiler:Lucy outclasses Carnage in every way possible except for durability, which didn't matter when her destructive output rivaled nuclear weaponry and she could prey on one of his [[AchillesHeel biggest weaknesses]].]] |
| 225 | ** "WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse vs. [[WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil Star Butterfly]]". The former has natural toughness and BarrierWarrior abilities that can block attacks from the most powerful beings of his universe. The latter possesses magical power capable of destroying planets. [[spoiler:Star as the Unstoppable Force wins since her destructive magic potential (reaching dimensional and highly likely ''universe''-destroying level) far surpasses anything Steven could defend or survive against (at absolute best only about planet-level, and very likely lower), rendering her own weaker defense a moot point]]. |
| 226 | ** "[[VideoGame/DarkSouls1 Chosen Undead]] vs. [[Franchise/TheElderScrolls Last Dragonborn]]" The former due to the Undead Curse can revive indefinitely as long as their sense of purpose persists. The latter is strong enough to battle and slay multiverse-devouring dragon demigods. [[spoiler: Dragonborn as the Unstoppable force wins as their power being superior to Alduin who could devour multiple infinite realities meant that the Chosen Undead who at best could temporarily refuel a universe sustaining First Flame wouldn't be able to put them down before eventually going Hollow.]] |
| 227 | [[/folder]] |
| 228 | |
| 229 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 230 | * In a more metaphorical sense in ''WebComic/AskFriskAndCompany'', [[spoiler:Chara]] believes they can convince Frisk that [[spoiler:the world is irredeemable to get them on their side]], and Frisk believes they can turn it around and do the opposite. Flowey notes that both of them are "[[{{Determinator}} pretty stubborn]]," and concludes "So who knows?" In the end, it'll just depend on who comes out more DETERMINED. |
| 231 | * ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'': Bill Raibert notes that "[[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2800/fc02713.htm That question is a lot less fun when you're in between the two]]". The unstoppable force, in this case, is the [[InstantAIJustAddWater sapient robot population of Jean]] forming a society, which is going to happen regardless of whether they have human input or not; the immovable object is the {{terraform}}ing process of Jean, which needs to stick to a very rigid plan in order to not go wrong and is largely dependent on robot obedience. In this case, when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object, [[spoiler:they pass through each other harmlessly; robots ''want'' to be workers, and are going to help with the terraforming process regardless, so things will go according to plan even as the robots form their society.]] |
| 232 | * In ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'', a villain shows up [[http://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1331 declaring that his "skin is impenetrable and [his] claws can cut through anything"]]. Turns out the former isn't quite so true. |
| 233 | -->'''Sydney:''' [[DefensiveWhat What?]] Clearly one of those statements was false. |
| 234 | * ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'': In "Teumessian Fox" (NSFW), two warrior-women do battle, both wielding swords that make them unbeatable in battle. The trope question is presented, and the answer here turns out to be: [[spoiler:They fuck.]] |
| 235 | * Referenced in ''Webcomic/RealLifeComics'' [[http://www.reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=title-2766 here]]. The result in this case: [[spoiler: the immovable object wins.]] |
| 236 | * ''Webcomic/{{Swords}}'': In [[https://swordscomic.com/comic/CDVIII/ "Spill",]] a cart is carrying a barrel of "Unstoppable Attack Swords" and another of "Immovable Defense Swords". The carriage bumps over a rock, spilling its shipment, and when the swords mix it results in a massive explosion. |
| 237 | * ''Webcomic/TwoGuysAndGuy'' references it too, but [[https://web.archive.org/web/20130304052224/http://www.twogag.com/archives/2718 only]] for TheUnreveal. |
| 238 | [[/folder]] |
| 239 | |
| 240 | [[folder:Websites]] |
| 241 | * One of the many things the ''Website/SCPFoundation'' keeps track of is [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-225 SCP-225]]: an immovable[[labelnote:*]]well, technically it's moving, it just stays in exactly the same place relative to the Earth at all times[[/labelnote]] object, and an unstoppable object that roughly traces the Earth's orbit and occasionally collides with it or the Moon. They ''really'' do not want to find out what would happen if these two objects ever collided. They're drawing up planetary evacuation plans just in case. By their own admission, that might not be enough. According to the author, SCP-225 is a naturally occurring phenomenon that all objects in the universe above a certain amount of mass have. While they do not state what would actually happen if SCP-225-1 and SCP-225-2 collided, they confirm that something very bad would happen, but it would not destroy the universe, as there already have been SCP-225 collisions elsewhere in the universe. |
| 242 | -->Since all tests thus far have shown that neither SCP-225-1 nor SCP-225-2 can be damaged or moved by any means known, the possibility also exists that neither object would be annihilated, halted, or altered from their course even by contact with the other. If this is true, then a collision between SCP-225-1 and SCP-225-2 has the potential to [[[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow DATA EXPUNGED]]]. |
| 243 | * The "small robots" Twitter feed introduced two successive robots called [[https://twitter.com/smolrobots/status/1034704529273573376 Immoveablebot]] and [[https://twitter.com/smolrobots/status/1034757453185994754 Unstoppablebot]]. And then spent a while explaining firstly that yes, the logical dichotomy was the point, and secondly that it wasn't going to be solved in the replies to a funny robot account. |
| 244 | * ''Website/SFDebris'': Mentioned in his review of ''WesternAnimation/AllStarSuperman'', where he states his believe that the Unstoppable Force would win, based on the logic that the Immovable Object would either be vaporized, sublimated, ground into nothingness in the case of kinetic force, or, in the case of a gravitational force, be captured. Unless the Object were able to make itself large enough to emit an even greater force, which would still count as a win for the Force, based on the logic that [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming what you're fighting against is a loss]]. |
| 245 | [[/folder]] |
| 246 | |
| 247 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 248 | * This was examined by ''WebVideo/MinutePhysics'' in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eKc5kgPVrA this video.]] Their answer? An "immovable" object really refers to an object that will not accelerate, since the concept of moving depends on the frame of reference of the observer. And an unstoppable "force" refers to an object that is moving, but cannot be accelerated (so they are really the same thing). Although they would require infinite mass, and thus, infinite energy, if these objects ''truly'' could not be accelerated, then [[spoiler:both objects would pass right through each other and continue moving. For an unstoppable force and an immovable object to exist, they must both be intangible.]] |
| 249 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvWoqfr-_cE Will Super Glue Stick to a Non-Stick Pan?]] tests to see if [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Super Glue (and other sticky substances like T-Rex Tape, Contact Cement, etc.) can stick to a Non-Stick Pan]]. [[spoiler:None of them do, but T-Rex Tape holds out the longest]]. |
| 250 | * There was a joke calling this regarding two classic infomercial products, the Ginsu 2000 knife, sold as an AbsurdlySharpBlade, and Vivarina stockings, promised to never run and unravel. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klEgkp1Ptkk A video]] tested it, and turns out the knife wins. |
| 251 | [[/folder]] |
| 252 | |
| 253 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 254 | * The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'' episode "[[Recap/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBoldS2E19EmperorJoker Emperor Joker!]]" has [[ImYourBiggestFan Bat-Mite]] describe Batman's relationship with the Joker as such, likely in reference to ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' quoted above. |
| 255 | * ''WesternAnimation/Invincible2021'': In episode 6, Cecil remarks how this would play out when Nolan offers to interrogate [=DarkBlood=] over the murder of the Guardians, Cecil prefers to keep the investigation "in-house" even though he admits the sight would be fascinating to watch. [[spoiler:Given he had already sent [=DarkBlood=] back to Hell to keep him from provoking Nolan, chances are it would've happened earlier]]. |
| 256 | * ''WesternAnimation/MightyOrbots'', when a techno virus drives non-sapient machines wild, Torr muscles it out with a bulldozer and quotes this with the bulldozer as the irresistible force and himself as the immovable object. [[spoiler:The immovable object wins when he tosses it into the air to end the stalemate.]] |
| 257 | * In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'', this is what happens when Rigby learns the [[OneHitKill Death Punch]] in attempt to beat Mordecai at Punchies. Only for Mordecai to learn the Death Block and challenge him. The result is a stalemate... but the shockwaves produced from the ensuing attacking and blocking creates a deeper and deeper hole, to where they nearly end up in lava. |
| 258 | * In one ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' sketch, Zeus is giving Perseus (or possibly a Perseus action figure) magic equipment, including a sword that can pierce any armor and a shield that can stop any weapon, along with advice not to get them too close together since he isn't sure which one beats the other. |
| 259 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': Used in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E3TheHomerTheyFall The Homer They Fall]]" to describe the boxing bout between Homer (who has been discovered [[MadeOfIron to have a reinforced brain case and is theoretically knockout-proof]]) and returning heavyweight champion Drederick Tatum. Ultimately, this trope is defied -- Tatum is capable of punching so hard that Homer is on the verge of being knocked out (or even getting pummeled to death) ''[[EpicFail within ten seconds of the first round starting]]''. |
| 260 | * In ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'', the Juggernaut and the Blob are characterized as this by the Blob. Juggy manages to move the Blob but is considerably slowed. |
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| 264 | * Political pundits invoked this phrase more than once during the 2016 presidential election. The election was marked by a deep dissatisfaction with the establishment, resulting in the Republican nomination of businessman Donald Trump and a much better than expected showing from socialist Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries. This being said, Hillary Clinton was widely favored to win the general election on November 8, effectively preserving the status quo of the Obama years. Almost fittingly, the final election result reflected both of these political zeitgeists simultaneously... Hillary Clinton won the national popular vote while Donald Trump won the electoral college and the presidency. |
| 265 | * Scientifically speaking, an unstoppable force and an immovable object are basically the same thing -- objects that no outside force can have an effect on, at least in terms of changing their movement. So if two such objects ''were'' to intersect with each other, they would both be unable to affect the other's momentum, or lack thereof, and would pass through each other. See [[https://deakincomsci2016.wordpress.com/2016/05/15/physics-gone-wild-immovable-object-vs-unstoppable-force/ here]] for a slightly more in-depth explanation of the hypothetical physics involved. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eKc5kgPVrA Or this]] three and a half minutes long video by ''WebVideo/MinutePhysics''. |
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