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7	A SubTrope of the RuleOfThree, this trope extends to confrontations in a particular work. When invoking this trope, a protagonist will, over the course of the story, confront a particular villain or antagonist roughly three times in succession. The first two times the protagonist makes an attempt at defeating him however, [[YouCantThwartStageOne he will lose]], or at the very least have severe implications that had the battle gone on longer, he would have lost.
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9	Sometimes this particular trope can provide good motive for CharacterDevelopment but at the same time may fall into the trap of [[BondVillainStupidity the antagonist leaving him alive for little adequately explained reason]] if the method of the hero's survival from the defeat isn't portrayed the right way. Often, the first losses will be quick and [[CurbStompBattle supremely one sided]], though this may not always be the case : the second confrontation may highlight the [[CharacterDevelopment protagonists' progression]] despite a negative outcome, or even allow them an unexpected victory to show that there is hope yet.
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11	However, then comes the third confrontation, which sometimes takes place after a few or even several [[TrainingFromHell little boosts to make the match more even]], and now the gloves are off. This time, for sure, the hero will finally be able to defeat his foe, [[HeroicSpirit no matter how much damage he takes in the process]]. And then by the end of their third confrontation, this time for sure, the hero will stand triumphant.
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13	This trope is often invoked in order to stress to the audience just how difficult it is to overcome this particular obstacle without dragging it on to the point of madness. The magic sweet spot for this formula, [[RuleofThree as is almost natural]], appears to be over the course of three confrontations. Sometimes this trope can also be invoked in the same battle, if [[HeroicSecondWind the hero all but loses yet still manages to get up on sheer willpower]] twice over the course of the fight, though generally it almost always happens over the course of three separate battles.
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15	Mainly occurs when the RuleOfThree is invoked in the protagonist's confrontations with an antagonist.
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23	* ''Manga/AceOfTheDiamond'': Before the start of the story, Miyuki refused to go to Inashiro with Mei and his friends, thinking that it'd be more fun to figure out how to beat them. For three years straight, they faced one another in the West Tokyo finals, with Inashiro defeating them in the first two years, and Seidou finally coming out on the third year.
24	* Happens twice in ''Manga/{{Bakuman}}'', with the main characters' attempts to get a popular manga that will allow Mashiro's fiancee Miho Azuki to get a lead role. Their first series gets canceled and they quit their second under the condition that if they can't get something serialized by the time their contract ends, they can no longer write for Jump. They have three chances to do so, and fail the first two, but their final manga, ''Perfect Crime Party'', manages to get serialized [[spoiler:but this gets subverted when it turns out that PCP won't be able to get a sponsor for an anime]].
25	* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
26	** Ichigo makes regular use of this trope. He confronts Byakuya three times total during story: once near the end of the first arc, where he's effortlessly defeated; another time on the bridge leading to the Senzaikyu in the Soul Society, where Yoruichi takes him away, and even though he put up a better showing it was all but outright stated he would be destroyed; and finally fought him atop Sokyoku Hill, where he managed to pull a victory. He even invoked this trope again in his three confrontations with Grimmjow, and one can argue this case for Ulquiorra as well, having their first confrontation shortly before Ichigo's last fight with Grimmjow, which Ulquiorra easily dispatched Ichigo by stabbing a hole in his throat (luckily Orihime was there to heal him), then again in the hall in which even his Visored form couldn't do anything, and finally [[spoiler:defeating him when his SuperpoweredEvilSide takes over and assumes a stronger form before Ulquiorra could kill Uryu and Orihime.]]
27	** Count Aizen. Ichigo loses to him in Soul Society (first), then in fake Karakura town where he suffered {{heroic BSOD}} (second), and finally the 3rd round when [[spoiler:Ichigo unleashes his newly found powers which shock and scares Aizen off beyond belief.]]
28	** Grimmjow was interrupted twice before he could use his release on Ichigo during their third fight.
29	* In ''Manga/DragonBall'', Goku wins [[TournamentArc the Strongest Under the Heavens Tournament]] on his third try (against Piccolo), after losing his first two. Notably, this was the only one of these tournaments where the world was at stake.
30	* Between ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs'', and ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', it took Fate three tries to pass her Enforcer exam. It is implied that some of her difficulty came from taking the test during the period in which Nanoha was recovering from her wounds (thus causing Fate emotional distress), and it is pointed out that as the pass rate is 15%, and Chrono also failed the test once, this is still fairly good, especially considering Fate passed "with flying colors" the third time.
31	* Shinn Asuka's initial confrontations against Kira in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'' play out like this. The first time Kira effortlessly disables him in one slash, the second Shinn freaks him out by dodging a few of his attacks (Kira had up until that point flawlessly one shotted everyone who crossed his path thus far) before Athrun takes over, although it was clear Shinn would have still lost, and finally in their third battle Shinn has prepared extensively and exploiting a flaw in Kira's fighting style, takes him down although Kira survives. They actually fight a few more times after this but always to a draw as Shinn's new machine is unable to exploit the earlier flaw but he's still grown in skill to the point where Kira can't get a hit on him.
32	* [[Manga/MuhyoAndRoji Muhyo]] has three separate encounters with Enchu. In the first at the MLS, Enchu leaves after Muhyo sentences the ghosts he sent. In the second [[spoiler:at the Arcanum]], he escapes with [[spoiler:Rio, before her traitor's mark can be removed]]. In the third, Muhyo [[spoiler:is able to bring Enchu to his senses and convince him to drive out Teeki from his body]].
33	* In ''Anime/MyOtome'', Arika Yumemia and [[spoiler:Nina Wang]] have three battles after the latter's FaceHeelTurn. The first two end with no clear winner, but Arika is victorious in the third.
34	* ''Manga/OnePiece'':
35	** Luffy has to confront Crocodile a total of three times, doing better but still getting defeated upon the first two, before finally pulling a victory the last time in the ruins.
36	** It takes Jimbei three times before he was able to officially join the Straw Hats. Luffy asked him at the end of the Fishman Island arc, which Jimbei then declined because he had to break ties to Big Mom first. Jimbei returns in the Whole Cake Island arc, resolves his business with Big Mom, and declares his loyalty to Luffy but chooses to remain behind to protect his former crew. Finally, he reappears in the Wano arc and finally joins the crew.
37	* ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'':
38	** In the [[Anime/PokemonTheSeriesRubyAndSapphire Battle Frontier]], Ash fought the seventh and last Frontier Brain, Brandon, three times, and finally defeated him the last time.
39	** ''Anime/PokemonTheSeriesDiamondAndPearl'': Dawn wants to catch a Buneary from the very beginning. Two Buneary foil her battles. The third one just happened to fall madly in love with Ash's Pikachu.
40	** Also in DP, Dawn's Contest losing streak [[BrokenWinLossStreak ended]] with her victory in the Wallace Cup, her third endeavor.
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44	* ''FanFic/SoulChess'': Lelouch had to defeat Aizen three times before it was safe to say that he was not going to be leaving the ninth circle of hell any time soon. Even then, the first two times he had to rely on other methods to get rid of him: the first time by [[spoiler:Geassing him to commit suicide]], and the second by [[spoiler:using Rita's power over the reincarnation cycle to briefly bring back Yamamoto and have him finish Aizen off for him]]. It was only the third time, [[spoiler:after absorbing the Hogyoku]], that Lelouch was able to defeat Aizen in one-on-one combat.
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48	* Po vs. Lord Shen in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2'' is an interesting case. It's actually implied that Po could've easily won the first two times, but between his HeroicBSOD and Shen's [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatism]], he only emerges victorious in the third encounter.
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52	* Subverted in the Creator/FritzLang film ''Film/{{Destiny\|1921}}'': a young bride is given three chances to save her husband from Death. She fails the first and second times, [[spoiler: and the third time as well, even though she's better equipped and gets a headstart.]] Notable in that it specifically invokes this trope as an allusion to European fairy tales.
53	* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Combining ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' and ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Luke Skywalker directly encounters Darth Vader three times: the first time in Cloud City, the second time on Endor (where Luke fails to redeem Vader and is instead taken to the Emperor), and the third in the Emperor's throne room. Luke is outskilled by Vader in the first encounter (he even loses a hand) and gets captured at the end of the second, but he finally defeats him (but also saves him from the Dark Side) in the third. The two never get close enough in ''Film/ANewHope'' for it to count.
54	* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels it goes the other way around: Darth Sidious goes through three apprentices before he's able to defeat the Jedi: Darth Maul, Darth Tyranus, and Darth Vader.
55	* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'':
56	** The Connors encounter the T-1000 three times over the course of the movie (shopping mall, hospital, foundry) but only defeat him the third time.
57	** Within the foundry, the T-800 fights the T-1000 three times. The first time, the T-1000 crushes his arm in some gears. The second time, the T-1000 impales him with a metal pole, briefly "killing" him. The third time, the T-800 shoots the T-1000 with a grenade launcher and causes him to fall into a vat of molten steel, destroying him.
58	* In ''Film/WerewolfByNight2022'', Jack takes three attempts to attach the explosive to the cracked wall. First attempt, he throws it, and it bounces off the wall and tumbles away; second attempt, he places it on the wall, where it loosens and lands on the ground; and third attempt, he places it in the largest crack with seconds to spare before it explodes.
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62	* In ''Literature/{{Pact}}'', this is an actual rule of magic, which holds power because of the numerous times that it has repeated-[[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the belief of practitioners that it will work allows it to work.]] A third victory out of a set of three battles will reverse any losses taken in the previous two, and if you can defeat someone three times in a particular field the victory is guaranteed to be both meaningful and lasting. This leads to practitioner duels usually taking the form of attempts to either conserve strength for the third fight or prevent the third fight from happening, with the first two battles being irrelevant except as preparation for the third.
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66	* In the series finale of ''Series/{{Lost}}'', Frank, Miles, and Richard work to repair the Ajira plane so that they can escape the Island. After duct-taping everything together, Frank remarks that the ''second time'' is the charm as he starts the plane, because they don't have the battery power for a third attempt.
67	* ''Series/ServantOfThePeople'': In the plotline covered by the movie, Vasily and Yuriy make three attempts to DivideAndConquer the oligarchs. The first two attempts go awry, when Vasily goes off-plan. The third time, in Odesa, he sticks to the plan and is successful. This is a variation, since they're not direct confrontations, and each time he's facing a different oligarch or their cronies.
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71	* It is common for bosses in video games to take three hits to kill, especially in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' and ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' games.
72	* ''VideoGame/{{Control}}'' features [[InnBetweenTheWorlds the Oceanview Motel and Casino as a recurring locale between dimensions]], and it has this rule as a means to navigate through it. You enter and exit it by pulling a light switch three times, and several puzzles in between involve interacting with something (ringing a bell, switching a radio, etc.) the same amount of times.
73	* Dante has this pattern with his fights against his twin brother Vergil in ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening''. Dante [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose loses the first fight]], the BigBad reveal of [[spoiler:Arkham/Jester]] in the mid-plot interrupts the second fight, then after they dealt with the BigBad, the twins have [[PostClimaxConfrontation one more fight]] in the end, with Dante defeating Vergil.
74	* Ike battles the BlackKnight three times throughout ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance''. The first time, after the BlackKnight mortally wounds his father, Ike attacks him in a rage and is nearly killed himself. Much later, he encounters the knight a second time and challenges him again. He is again defeated, but impressed by his sudden increase in skill, the Black Knight reveals his armor's weakness so that the next time they meet they can have a fair duel. The third duel can be won, lost, or left unfinished, and is essentially a LuckBasedMission. The sequel, ''Radiant Dawn'', goes with Ike having won, but only because the Black Knight [[ILetYouWin let him]].
75	* The player has three encounters with Darth Sion in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic II''. The first time, Kreia holds him off and loses a hand. The second time, the player fights him for a while in the Sith Academy before managing to escape. The third time, just before the final battle, the player must break his will in order to be able to kill him.
76	* ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'': Bowser is fought/encountered exactly three times in many games, with him being fought as a level boss in the Dark World, Fire Sea and Sky in ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'', in three different reactors in both ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2'', and in the first, penultimate and final standard worlds in ''VideoGame/SuperMario3DWorld'', with the last fight in each case being the final boss battle. This also applies to the ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi'' series (he's fought in the intro, part way through the game and in a possessed form as part of the final boss battle) and likely quite a few others, too.
77	* Kyosuke's battles against Axel in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration 2'' might or might not be this. First round Axel is clearly winning before he's ordered to retreat, the next round might not really count since although both are eventually present Axel spends most of the battle dueling Lamia, and then Sanger, Kyosuke only showing up with the reinforcements that drive him off. Their third encounter (and 2nd duel) has Axel soundly defeating him and only stopped from delivering the killing blow by Kyosuke's allies. In their 4th encounter and 3rd duel Kyosuke successfully backs Axel into a corner with his upgraded mech (and essentially winning) but Axel is bailed out by an ally. Finally their 5th and final encounter and 4th duel has Kyosuke defeating him, destroying his mech and taking him out of the war.
78	* [[spoiler:Kratos]] in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' is fought three times. The first two times, winning is optional, but Lloyd suspects he was holding back in those fights. The third is a DuelBoss, which Lloyd must win. You also fight [[spoiler:Yggdrasil]] three times. First it's a HopelessBossFight, second time it's a fight that you have to survive but can't win, and finally it's a regular fight you have to win.
79	* One of the G.U.I.L.T. strains is fought like this in ''VideoGame/TraumaCenter''.
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83	* Pointed out in ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'' in the comments when it was invoked in one of the early confrontations over its entire run.
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87	* Weaponized by Candace Flynn in the ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' episode "Mission Marvel", where she determines that messing around with technology she's unfamiliar with has to work on the third try because her first 2 tries failed; she's right.
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91	* Creator/TaitenKusunoki had to attend three separate auditions to join ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'' voice cast, and each time he tried pretty different characters. First he apped to play [[TeamDad Kippei]] [[TragicHero Tachibana]] but lost to Creator/YoshihisaKawahara, later lost the role of [[SternTeacher Taro]] [[BunnyEarsLawyer Sakaki]] to Creator/JurotaKosugi, and finally got in as [[KendoTeamCaptain Genichirou]] [[ArrogantKungFuGuy Sanada]].
92	* King UsefulNotes/HenryVIII of England did not sire his coveted son, for whose birth he completely changed the social and religious landscape of England, until he met his third wife, Jane Seymour.
93	* UsefulNotes/JoeBiden ran unsuccessful presidential campaigns in 1988 and 2008 before finally being elected in 2020.
94	* Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador (popularly known as AMLO) previously ran two unsuccessful bids for the presidency in 2006 and 2012 before finally winning in 2018.
95	* [=OceanGate=]'s "Titan" Submersible went for a total of 3 voyages to the sunken Titanic. For years, many experts warned the company that the submersible isn't meeting the safety standards for deep ocean diving, risking potential implosion. It eventually imploded on it's 3rd and final voyage on June 18, 2023, killing the CEO Stockton Rush and four other paying passengers on board.
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