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13	->'''Dr. Lutz:''' Tell me, why do you insist on referring to yourself in the third person? It's ''intensely'' irritating!\
14	'''Hercule Poirot:''' It helps Poirot to keep a distance from his genius.
15	-->-- ''Series/{{Poirot}}'', "The Labours of Hercules"
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17	A Third-Person Person is a character who always refers to themselves in the third person. Folks from different cultures actually do this for wildly different reasons.
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19	In Japanese media, this is a standard tic of very young children. As a result, girls who are childish or [[TheCutie cutesy]] may be seen referring to themselves in this manner by their own name and their loved ones' names rather than using pronouns like ''(w)atashi''. Due to the proliferation of UsefulNotes/{{Kawaisa}}, which conflates childishness and youth with femininity, it's roughly as feminine as referring to oneself with ''atashi'', and males who refer to themselves in third-person are almost certainly implicated to be InTouchWithHisFeminineSide, if not outright CampGay. In older characters, however, it may be a sign of [[HollywoodPsych psychological issues]], such as a very traumatic event in their past. It also may be a sign of humility, so {{samurai}} and noblewomen usually refer to themselves in the third person when talking to their lords, or just that the adult is a ManChild. If a character ''transitions'' into a Third-Person Person over the course of the series, watch out for signs of {{Yandere}} and/or TheMentallyDisturbed, and keep tabs on all [[AxCrazy pointy objects]].
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21	It should be noted that third-person speak is about [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism illeism]] (literally "that-ism" or "he-ism"; the Latin pronoun ''ille'' largely evolved into words for "the", "he", or the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_pronoun dummy]] "it" in Romance languages such as French or Spanish). In other words, you would refer to yourself not only by name, but also by a third-person pronoun (he, she, or they) as if you were talking about someone else. If the speaker does this only for a story in which they are revealed as the central character, it's AndThatLittleGirlWasMe or NarratorAllAlong.
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23	The so-called "third person" in a Japanese (or East Asian for that matter) sense isn't the same as using "he" or "she" to talk about oneself, however. In fact, the "third person" for Japanese people stops at only using one's own name to substitute [[UsefulNotes/JapanesePronouns first-person pronouns]] (''watashi'', ''ore'', ''boku'', etc.). This may sound strange to Western ears, but anyone who does this still very much speaks in some sort of playful, childlike ''first person'', '''not''' the actual third person that Westerners would think of. Nobody actually refers to themself as ''kare'' ("he"), ''kanojo'' ("she"), ''koitsu''/''soitsu''/''aitsu'' / ''kono''/''sono''/''ano hito'' ("they") (in fact, the so-called third-person pronouns in general aren't even commonly used to begin with, given Japanese people's value on people's names which makes it rude and crass to overuse these words). A misunderstanding of this phenomenon may cause some amateur [[FanTranslation fan translators]] to jump all over the place, using Western-style third-person speak in some places, while going back to first-person speak in others. The only feasible solutions to this [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untranslatability translation predicament]] is to simply substitute every instance of "I" and "me" with the character's name and try to conform to European grammars with "is", "was", "has" and whatnot (which is of course actually infeasible because it will make the translation awkward to read and give the reader a false impression of a culture they're ignorant about), or just stick with "I" and "me", because at the end of the day, some things just gotta be LostInTranslation. Using names as pronoun substitutes also applies to the second person, since using second person pronouns may appear crass. A conversation where characters only use their own and each other's names may sound awkward if translated literally, therefore substituting those names with "I/me" and "you" is recommended.
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25	On the other side of the globe, Western characters who referred to themselves in the third person were traditionally seen as vain, unintelligent, egotistical, or self-absorbed -- the implication being that he is so in awe of himself that even ''he'' views himself objectively. Or the character is a {{Hulk Speak}}ing primitive. Or the character could be just a {{Cloudcuckoolander}} with a [[VerbalTic weird speech mannerism]]. An [[ItsAllAboutMe egotistical villain]] will especially refer to himself in this fashion if he has a [[TheMagnificent cool or impressive-sounding name or title]]. Sometimes a character with AcquiredSituationalNarcissism will temporarily become a Third-Person Person as a sign of his suddenly expanded ego. There are examples of this trope used in the Japanese way, though, such as Elmo from ''Series/SesameStreet'', just as there are pompous egomaniacs who use the third person out of pure self-importance in Japanese works (a particularly famous example is Dio Brando from ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'').
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27	At the same time, many vain and self-centered people are very fond of using the pronoun "I"; in this context, the third person self-referral can be seen as exactly the opposite: a sign of [[SelfDeprecation self-irony and not taking oneself too seriously]]. In Eastern religions, like Hinduism or Buddhism, it may be a sign of enlightenment. Some, like Ma Yog Laxmi and Swami Ramdas, referred to themselves in this way in order to detach their true selves from temporary ones (Jnana Yoga actually encourages its practitioners to do this). Interestingly, according to latest psychological studies, this seems to be TruthInTelevision: [[https://aeon.co/ideas/why-speaking-to-yourself-in-the-third-person-makes-you-wiser individuals who think and speak of themselves in the third person tend to have greater wisdom, empathy, and better mental health due to the ability to distance emotionally from one's problems]].
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29	See also HulkSpeak and VerbalTic; may also overlap with NarratingThePresent. Almost as bad as [[SpellMyNameWithAThe people who insist their name has a "The" in there somewhere]]. PokemonSpeak is when a character says their name over and over because it's ''literally'' the only thing they can say.
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31	For more examples of this trope, both real and fictional, check out [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Illeists a thematic category]] on Website/TheOtherWiki.
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33	!!Example Subpages:
34	[[index]]
35	* ThirdPersonPerson/AnimeAndManga
36	* ThirdPersonPerson/ComicBooks
37	* [[ThirdPersonPerson/AnimatedFilms Films — Animation]]
38	* [[ThirdPersonPerson/LiveActionFilms Films — Live-Action]]
39	* ThirdPersonPerson/{{Literature}}
40	* ThirdPersonPerson/LiveActionTV
41	* ThirdPersonPerson/{{Music}}
42	* ThirdPersonPerson/{{Theatre}}
43	* ThirdPersonPerson/VideoGames
44	* ThirdPersonPerson/VisualNovels
45	* ThirdPersonPerson/{{Webcomics}}
46	* ThirdPersonPerson/WesternAnimation
47	* ThirdPersonPerson/RealLife
48	[[/index]]
49
50	!!Other Examples:
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52	[[foldercontrol]]
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54	[[folder:Advertising]]
55	* A commercial for Advertising/{{Progressive}} auto insurance has a guy who comes into "the Progressive store" to talk with Flo about auto insurance refers to himself in this manner, confusing her at first. Then another associate shows up and he gets confused as well, leading Flo to be all "Here we go again."
56	[[/folder]]
57
58	[[folder:Animation]]
59	* In ''Animation/HappyHeroes'', Mr. Lightbulb's son Lightbulb Jr., being the young little boy he is, speaks like this.
60	* ''Animation/PleasantGoatAndBigBigWolf'':
61	** LargeHam Wolffy is prone to speaking about himself in the third person, for emphasis. Even more in Chinese.
62	** Brother Tai speaks about himself as Brother Tai. Very hammy. More frequent in Chinese.
63	** The goats and Wilie do it at times (it's not considered as hammy an act in Mandarin).
64	[[/folder]]
65
66	[[folder:Comic Strips]]
67	* ''ComicStrip/BloomCounty'' has a confusingly ungrammatical early strip where Cutter John soliloquizes as both "I, Cutter John" and "himself" in the same sentence.
68	* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' has a short arc where Calvin demands that he be called "Calvin the Bold", going on to say that "Calvin the Bold will begin referring to himself in the third person." Then his dad knighted him with the name Mud, and the whole charade disappeared very quickly.
69	* ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'': Garfield does this whenever he becomes The Caped Avenger.
70	* Bucky Katt from ''ComicStrip/GetFuzzy'' would occasionally refer to himself in the third person. For one thing, it was because of his ego but he also did it to tick off Rob.
71	* Lucy van Pelt did this when she was very young, in early ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' strips.
72	* ''ComicStrip/TerryAndThePirates'' has several of these: Dragon Lady, Sanjak, Rouge, Klang...
73	[[/folder]]
74
75	[[folder:Fan Works]]
76	* ''Fanfic/AbraxasHrodvitnon'': In this ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' fanfiction, San (the former left head of Ghidorah) when referring to himself doesn't use first-person pronouns, substituting them with "this one" or not using them altogether, due to the abuse he suffered from Ghidorah's other two heads over a TimeAbyss long life convincing him that he's slow and worthless. This disappears as San's CharacterDevelopment progresses, whilst his clone [[AlternateSelf San-Who-Could-Have-Been/Youngest Brother]] (who lacks all of San's Character Development) continues being a Third-Person Person.
77	* In the novelization of ''VideoGame/{{Arknights}}'' event story 'Mansfield Break', Jayston [[note]] His name is rendered Jayston in the novelization as it follows the original Chinese translations that were made before his name was rendered 'Jesselton' when the event was officially translated [[/note]] falls into this time to time. In this version, it is how Robin picks out that [[https://archiveofourown.org/works/32174944/chapters/79951219 he is her employer]]. It seems that it is mostly used to add creepiness, as it makes the line where [[spoiler: he goes OneWingedAngel]] ''very'' creepy [[note]] Furthermore, from this point on, he drops the 'from time to time' thing, making it so that he does this consistently [[BigDamnHeroes until Saria shows up]] - this is noted on the story itself as well [[/note]]:
78	-->'''Jayston''': Jayston is just so happy, Anthony!
79	* The [[CloudCuckoolander quirky]] zombie priestess Adelleh from [[https://web.archive.org/web/20120503190121/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5153247/1/Tunnels_The_Tale_of_Tavor_T1 these]] [[https://web.archive.org/web/20120503190052/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5153268/1/Taken_T2 two]] ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' fanfic speaks like this, combining this with YouNoTakeCandle.
80	* Johnny Steps, the egotistical pseudo-DDR player in ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries''. He does this to a lesser extent in the original ''Anime/YuGiOh'' as well.
81	* Rando the copy-demon from ''WebVideo/YuYuHakushoAbridged''. Likely tied into his entirely fabricated egotistical rapper character within said series.
82	* Likewise Recoome in ''WebVideo/DragonBallAbridged'', as part of his ProfessionalWrestling theme.
83	* Some fanfics, like ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3042174/Dead_Men_Tell_No_Tales Dead Men Tell No Tales]]'', describe [[Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Tia Dalma]] as one of these. It may be the result of her [[YouNoTakeCandle broken English]].
84	* Stalkkus in the FanFilm ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}} vs. the Kaiju Killer''.
85	* ''Fanfic/TalesOfTheUndiscoveredSwords'': Hatsuzakura's inner monologues are narrated like this. Konotegashiwa's using the ''soregashi'' pronoun is sometimes translated as referring to himself as "this humble warrior" in this manner. [[spoiler:Sasanoyuki talks about his past self this way in his last kiwame letter.]]
86	* ''WebAnimation/TurnaboutStorm'': The '''GREAT''' and '''POWERFUL''' [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Trixie]], of course. To the point when she doesn't do this [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Twilight knows something is up]].
87	** The idea that Trixie falls back on first-person speech when she loses her cool is common in fanfiction because it happened in canon first.
88	* In the Supernatural fan-comics by "[[http://lordwhat.tumblr.com/post/54876672823/the-sequel-the-second-sequel-the-third-part-the Lordwhat]]", Sam Winchester often refers to himself as 'Sam', actually complaining about someone else describing themself in the third person at one point.
89	* ''Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse'': After the CrisisCrossover, Trixie Lulamoon is so amused by her grandstanding oddball counterpart that she's taken to using some of her mannerisms as a goof.
90	* Tsukey from ''Fanfic/{{Hivefled}}''. She's not childish or arrogant, just a little odd. Parts of her design were inspired by Music/EmilieAutumn, and the song "Opheliac" includes the line "she speaks in third person [[TheWoobie so she can forget that she's me]]".
91	* ''FanFic/ResonanceDays'':
92	** Though [[PuppetKing Oblivion]] doesn't speak like this anymore, she apparently used to, as a further signifier of her childish status. This foreshadows her true identity as one of the Third Person People to appear in the [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica original material]].[[spoiler:.. though [[Manga/PuellaMagiOrikoMagica which one is anyone's guess.]]]]
93	** Also Ticky Nikki, who is just plain nuts.
94	* In the fan comic ''Webcomic/FriendshipIsTragic'' (not to be confused with [[Fanfic/FriendshipIsTragic the fanfic of the same name]]), the background unicorn usually known as Twinkleshine ''is'' actually Moondancer and refers to herself in third person. The result of this is that, except for her so-called friends, nopony knows that she is Moondancer, Equestria's most famous blogger, because everypony thinks that she just talks about Moondancer all the time and that her actual name is Twinkle. Once she actually ''tried'' to say "me" but found that she literally couldn't. HilarityEnsues in the one-part comic in which Moondancer and The Great and Powerful Trixie meet -- without really knowing.
95	--> '''Moondancer:''' "Moondancer is greater than this Trixie!"\
96	'''Trixie:''' "Is that so? Well, Trixie would like to MEET this Moondancer!"\
97	'''Moondancer:''' "Well Moondancer would like to meet this Trixie!"\
98	'''Linky:''' "Should we..."\
99	'''Sparkler:''' "No, I want to see how long this goes on for."
100	* Viktor Krum does it habitually in ''[[http://jeconais.fanficauthors.net/Blue_Steel/Chapter_8/ Blue Steel]]'', much to his mother's annoyance.
101	-->'''Ana:''' And what have I told you about speaking in the third person?\
102	'''Viktor:''' Is fun, and should continue?
103	* ''Fanfic/UnbreakableRedSilkenThread'': Izzy still talks this way sometimes, both as her real self and her video game character Wildcard.
104	* In ''Fanfic/TheNightmareHouse'', [[WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse Lily Loud]], after hearing her parents talk of paying the mortgage, has a nightmare about a monster named Mor-Gaj who speaks in third person.
105	* ''Fanfic/ACertainDrollHivemind'': When talking to TheIllegible Aino Sumiko, in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9805735/2/A-Certain-Droll-Hivemind the second chapter]], and who has given her shopping list to a ThirdPersonPerson, that has a habit of NarratingThePresent:
106	--> "Can you get me the stuff on this list?" she said, handing me a freshly written list. "I'll pay you back."\
107	Her handwriting is not very good.\
108	"'I can get such things,' Misaka confirms, though she struggles to read some of the things on the list," I said.\
109	Aino put her hands on her hips - which are not very prominent - and glared up at me. "Are you trying to be funny?" she asked.\
110	I did not answer. I do not know why people ask so many difficult questions.
111	* ''Fanfic/InfinityTrainSeekerOfCrocus'': The fusion of Easter and Specter addresses the rest of White Gestalt with a RoyalWe to indicate that both components are fine. Gladion lampshades this trope.
112	-->'''Gladion:''' Specter, you are referring to yourself in third-person. I think we ''should'' be concerned!
113	* ''Fanfic/VowOfNudity'': Walburt the Barbarian slips into this on occasion, seemingly at random.
114	* Standard etiquette among Vorta in the ''Star Trek: Deep Space Nine'' postcanon fic ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/43326153/chapters/108907977 we are the challengers of the unknown]]'' (and other fics by the same author) when addressing Founders is to refer to oneself as "this servant" or simply "one." Odo discourages this among the Vorta he personally works with.
115	[[/folder]]
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117	[[folder:Manhua]]
118	* Xiaxi in ''Manhua/GoddessCreationSystem'' usually uses the third person to speak to her social superiors, which is a form of self depreciation. Like "this lowly servant Xiaxi would never dare to blah blah blah."
119	[[/folder]]
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121	[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
122	* [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] says... he is going to lay the smackdown on the [[{{Jobber}} jabronis]] who neglected to mention him here!
123	* Not as common, but Mr. Kennedy (...KENNEDY!) still makes it a big deal in his pre-match promo.
124	* It's not uncommon for wrestlers to use their title nicknames to refer to themselves. Wrestling/TripleH has been quite guilty of this lately (King of Kings going back on his throne, you know the deal)
125	* {{Subverted\|Trope}} in EVOLVE, where Wrestling/SamiCallihan seemed to be referring to himself in third person but was revealed to be in ''conversation'' with himself.
126	* Kimberly has been a third person person since ending her SHINE losing streak.
127	* "... and that's the bottom line, 'cause [[Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin Stone Cold]] said so!"
128	[[/folder]]
129
130	[[folder:Puppet Shows]]
131	* This is a permanent feature of the puppet for Alain Delon (see Real Life below) in ''Series/LesGuignolsDeLInfo''.
132	* ''Franchise/TheMuppets'': Animal sometimes does this as part of his HulkSpeak.
133	* Elmo of ''Series/SesameStreet'' does this; it's part of the reason he's so adorable. Not so much ego as [[JustifiedTrope he hasn't learned pronouns yet]]. As such, he will also sometimes refer to someone he's talking to directly in the third person, for example, "Elmo thinks Abby could ask Julia to play again" instead of "I think you could ask Julia to play again."
134	** The Mexican version, ''Plaza Sesamo'', has Lola doing it as well, since she's the show's Elmo equivalent.
135	[[/folder]]
136
137	[[folder:Radio]]
138	* Music/MitchBenn spends part of one episode of ''Mitch Benn's Crimes Against Music'' in the third person for tax purposes.
139	* Most of the cast of ''Radio/TheNavyLark'' would slip in and out of [[RuleOfFunny whenever it was funny]], but C.P.O. Pertwee and Fatso Johnson would do it more than most.
140	* Denis King of ''Radio/HelloCheeky'' would do this whenever he had just told a [[{{Pun}} terrible]], ''[[StylisticSuck terrible]]'' joke. Usually, the statement would go along the lines of "How does he think of them?" or "He's working well tonight!"
141	[[/folder]]
142
143	[[folder:Web Animation]]
144	* ''WebAnimation/IfTheEmperorHadATextToSpeechDevice'' has Skarbrand, a greater daemon of Khorne with NoIndoorVoice who HatesEveryoneEqually. He mostly talks in the third person -- as for how this typically manifests in-series, well, '''''[[SelfDemonstratingArticle SKARBRAND HATES GIVING EXAMPLES]]!!!!'''''
145	* ''WebAnimation/MangaSoprano'':
146	** ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUd1caO2WWA A misunderstood woman who pretends to be a lover when she is not even in a relationship]]'' has Misato refer to herself in the third person. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut06sI7JQms The original Japanese version]] has her do the same all the time as part of her cutesy gimmick.
147	** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqHmYnEwVOY The original Japanese version]] of ''Because I was visually impaired,My mother said "You're a child I don't want."'' [sic] has the blind Sae refer to herself in the third person and even adds a ''-chan'' prefix to her own name to emphasize her [[InspirationallyDisadvantaged innocence as a disabled person]].
148	[[/folder]]
149
150	[[folder:Web Original]]
151	* ''WebOriginal/{{Fandomstuck}}'' has CuteMonsterGirl Tsukeysprite and Calamity Kid, the AnthropomorphicPersonification of ''VideoGame/{{Bastion}}''. In the latter's case, he technically refers to himself by a ''title'' rather than his name, unless, of course, [[HisNameReallyIsBarkeep his name really is Kid]].
152	* ''VideoGame/Halo2'' ARG ''ARG/ILoveBees'' has Monster Ann, a minor antagonist who speaks this way.
153	* ''Website/SCPFoundation'':
154	** Inverted by me, an ordinary toaster named [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-426 SCP-426]], who makes everyone around me refer to me in the first person. And that's only the ''least'' of my effects.
155	** Played straight with [[https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-811 SCP-811]], a swamp woman who combines this with HulkSpeak due to her poor vocabulary.
156	* Website/TVTropes:
157	** PokemonSpeak takes this to its logical extreme.
158	** KneelBeforeZod is often a line spoken by Zod himself (or his equivalent in non-''Superman'' works)
159	** Many users in the [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16678361630A12310900 TV Tropes Slander]] forum thread have resorted to [[SelfDeprecation making fun of themselves]], while referring to themselves by their usernames rather than first-person pronouns.
160	[[/folder]]
161
162	[[folder:Web Videos]]
163	* ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'': "SNOWFLAME HAS NO CONCEPT OF TIME!"
164	* ''WebVideo/{{Dad}}'': Dad always refers to himself in his own narrative as "Dad", such as:
165	--> "Hmm...Someday, Dad will have the greatest shed in the neighborhood and the universe."
166	* ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'':
167	** The BadFuture version of Gohan does it once for a gag when Bulma asks if Mr. Gohan would like to stay for dinner.
168	--->'''Gohan:''' Mr. Gohan would.
169	** In the commentary for that episode, they mention that they considered having him accept Bulma's later offer of staying the night, what with her being single and thus very interested in his, ah...
170	--->'''Gohan:''' ''[same delivery]'' Mr. Gohan [[FunWithHomophones wood.]]
171	* ''WebVideo/FinalFantasyVIIAbridged:'' Tseng speaks as if he's narrating a movie trailer, and while he refers to himself in third-person, it's never by his actual name, but usually various overwrought qualifiers to make himself sound cooler.
172	* Bowl from ''WebVideo/FrenchBaguetteIntelligence'' refers to himself in third person.
173	* Waluigi within the ''LetsPlay/MarioPartyTV'' series, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation as voiced]] by The Reverend Inferno.
174	* Rafale from ''Film/NoobLaQueteLegendaire'' doesn't do it all the time, but still regularly enough for another character to notice and make clear she considers it a little annoying.
175	* Caveman of ''WebVideo/TheTimeGuys'' fame talk like this, but Caveman's prodigious cave-telligence imply this done more for style.
176	* Episode 25 of ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'' has Johnny Steps refers to himself in the third person because "it makes him a bad guy"
177	[[/folder]]

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