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12	->''"I always wondered what kind of person could do such a thing. But now that I see you, I think I understand. There's just nothing inside you. Nothing at all. You're pathetic and sad and empty."''
13	-->-- '''[[Characters/AvatarTheLastAirbenderKatara Katara]]''', ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', to her mother's murderer
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15	Someone delivers a speech to another character on all the reasons why that other character sucks or is a horrible person. There are several contexts in which this can happen.
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19	[[folder:A Villain Addresses a Hero]]
20	Not only has the BigBad killed your LoveInterest, slain the TeamPet, and finally [[TakeOverTheWorld taken over the world]], they must [[EvilGloating grind your self-worth into the asphalt and explain to you why you failed to stop]] their EvilPlan. This is where they list all the reasons you are a poor excuse for a [[TheHero hero]]([[TheHeroine ine]]) and never had a prayer of stopping them: you lack the skills, the weapons and the powers needed, you [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids childishly]] fight for [[GoodIsOldFashioned outdated ideals]], your [[EvilIsPetty costume is ugly]] and your {{mentor\|s}} always hated you.
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22	Frequently a brand of EvilGloating and/or BreakThemByTalking. In a well-done speech, the villain will state things that the hero (and audience) can't argue with and when the fight is done, the hero stays troubled because the VillainHasAPoint. However, maybe they're total BS, but it's delivered with such conviction it ''almost'' makes the hero (and audience) agree that they were wrong to have dared challenge the villain in the first place.
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24	Sometimes, it makes the point that the people the hero are trying to defend [[UngratefulBastard aren't worth the trouble]]. An especially arrogant BigBad will use this to let the hero know they're just a [[NotSoDifferentRemark lesser version of the Big Bad himself]] and the only difference is they're not saddled with morals. A villain going for a low-blow might bring up some previous encounter between the two when they overpowered the hero, as to state that the same thing will happen again. WhatYouAreInTheDark can (and often does) follow.
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26	Maybe the hero [[WhatTheHellHero hurt the villain in the past]], or even caused their StartOfDarkness (maybe they [[AbandonmentInducedAnimosity abandoned them]], [[LeftForDead believed they were dead]], [[ReplacementGoldfish made them feel like they'd been replaced]], etc). This will be what the villain addresses in this speech, reminding the hero of everything they've done to hurt them. The hero might even be affected by this and have no good response.
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28	A hero worth their salt might respond with their own speech along the lines of a NoMoreHoldingBackSpeech or a {{P\|atrickStewartSpeech}}icard or KirkSummation, among others. If it's an action movie, the hero will usually say "ShutUpHannibal" and then [[MyNameIsInigoMontoya declare what and who they truly are]]. Sometimes the hero survives only because they're NotWorthKilling, in which case they'll invariably prove that they are later in the story. Often a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome if a {{Jerkass}} gives this to someone and they respond with a better one.
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31	[[folder:A Hero Addresses a Villain]]
32	Heroes can also give defeated villains "The Reason You Suck" Speeches, often pointing out their [[YouCouldHaveUsedYourPowersForGood wasted potential]], their callous nature and a lack of any altruistic quality, or how their obsession with [[RevengeBeforeReason defeating the hero has ruined them]], or in the case of the WellIntentionedExtremist adversary, how [[HeWhoFightsMonsters they've become everything they've fought against]], or how their [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans extremes in trying to bring a better world have done more to ruin it]]. Heroic "The Reason You Suck" Speeches come out when the hero's not going to bother with the KirkSummation. Chances are they tried the diplomatic option and it didn't sink in.
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34	A villain will usually respond by entering a VillainousBreakdown upon realizing the hero's words have a grain of truth to them and being unable to stand it. The WellIntentionedExtremist may acknowledge it, but then state IveComeTooFar. Sometimes the villain will say "ShutUpKirk" and mock them for thinking they could be swayed by mere words.
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37	[[folder:A Villain Addresses Another Villain]]
38	Villains can also give this to other villains on an EvilVersusEvil stage. The content of this speech is usually along the lines of how they're EvilerThanThou and pointing out flaws and shortcomings in the other villain, like a MagnificentBastard chiding a SmugSnake, a CardCarryingVillain mocking a KnightTemplar for [[AtLeastIAdmitIt employing the same methods but believing their actions to be right and just]], a calculating practitioner of PragmaticVillainy berating a StupidEvil villain for being too sadistic to actually achieve anything, or in a conflict between the EvilGenius and TheBrute, have the Evil Genius mock the Brute for using brute force to compensate for their [[DumbMuscle low intelligence]] and explain their simple-mindedness makes him predictable and as such easy to beat, or the Brute pointing out how the Evil Genius [[FlunkyBoss relies on their minions]] and HumongousMecha to fight their battles and for all their [[InsufferableGenius vaunted intelligence]], they can't make any of their big schemes stick.
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40	Alternatively, it could take the form of EvenEvilHasStandards if the other villain did something they find [[KickTheDog completely unnecessary and appalling]]. If two or more {{Professional Killer}}s are hired to track down the heroes, a PsychoForHire can get this from a HitmanWithAHeart, who voices their disgust at the former's capacity for [[ColdBloodedTorture torture]], {{rape\|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} and [[BloodKnight enjoyment of destruction and killing]], or a ConsummateProfessional, who loses patience with how their [[AxCrazy psychotic]] {{t\|oThePain}}endencies draw unwanted attention and their [[ComplexityAddiction distaste]] for [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim taking the simple approach]] makes the mission needlessly complicated. If the BigBad crosses the MoralEventHorizon, the NobleTopEnforcer may drop one explaining how they were [[WeUsedToBeFriends let down by their boss]] and feel [[BrokenPedestal betrayed by the one they looked up to]] before they [[TurnInYourBadge quit]]. A DefectorFromDecadence may give one against their entire country before they leave, and if two villains team up to fight the heroes, one of them may eventually break off their partnership with one of these as a way of establishing them as the [[ALighterShadeOfBlack Lighter Shade of Black]]. Either way it can be a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome when the person on the receiving end [[AssholeVictim has it coming]].
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42	This form often doubles as a way to {{exp\|osition}}lain the reasoning behind a VillainousRescue without LeaningOnTheFourthWall too hard.
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45	[[folder:A Hero Addresses Another Hero]]
46	Speeches from hero to hero usually come up whenever a hero's DesignatedHero status becomes irritating to the other protagonist, or they feel that the hero being called out must be taken down a peg or more. This is also occasionally done in GoodVersusGood scenarios where a protagonist's morality is being called into question by another protagonist who doesn't agree with their methods. It usually takes place following a hero doing something particularly unheroic, or if their [[{{Jerkass}} general unpleasantness]] has gone past the point of acceptance. Often doubles as WhatWereYouThinking and WhatTheHellHero, and in particularly bad circumstances it may cause allies to [[WeUsedToBeFriends turn against one another]].
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49	[[folder:An Acquaintance[=/=]Friend Addresses Another Acquaintance[=/=]Friend]]
50	This speech is given by someone who's just frustrated with the other person. This is not an attempt to bring down or break an opponent. This is not an exchange between heroes and villains (heck, they might even be friends). This is someone, tired of everything they have to deal with, giving a frank and [[BrutalHonesty brutally honest]] assessment of the person they're dealing with, often in a WhatTheHellHero moment. This can be [[InsultBackfire prone to backfire]] with a suitably shallow, self-obsessed, and/or savvy target, who typically responds with [[Series/RedDwarf "You've just listed all of my best features!"]] Other times however, the one who gave the speech overreacted and says that [[WasTooHardOnHim they are too harsh]] and [[WasTooHardOnHer it's not really how they feel]]. Will often provoke an attempted refutation or justification from the target; which, depending on the source, can be played for comedy, drama, or {{Wangst}}. If the target is a DesignatedHero, this occurrence just might motivate them to become a ''real'' hero.
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53	[[folder:A Protagonist Calls Out Themselves]]
54	Sometimes, a [[PlayedForDrama protagonist in a particular show]] is so filled with self-loathing that, when prompted, decide that they're fed up with themselves, and calls out the worst of villains: [[TheReasonISuckSpeech themselves]]. If done in a comedy or a Dramedy, this is usually PlayedForLaughs. However, in other cases, this is almost always done for drama. This might be because the hero is suffering HeroicBSOD, or might have implied (or explicitly stated) to suffer depression. This is the ultimate form of SelfDeprecation in a work. [[ManipulativeBitch Of course, this could also be done to get people to sympathize with the protagonist]].
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57	[[folder:Someone Calls Out the Crowd]]
58	The indulgences of the crowd disgusts the speaker to such an extent that [[ShamingTheMob they must speak out against it]]. Calling everyone in attendance for their failures in life in a cruel but often necessary manner. If it gets meta and [[BreakingTheFourthWall is directed at the audience]], it also counts as YouBastard.
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62	One thing all seven types of speech have in common is that the speaker has a point, [[VillainHasAPoint even if they're villains]]. To give a speech about it, the speaker has to have thought it through and can usually have more than one reason why you suck. This is because the writer of the story has also thought it through. This is a sister trope to CallingTheOldManOut (or CallingTheOldWomanOut). Compare TalkingTheMonsterToDeath where this is meant to kill or [[DefeatMeansFriendship redeem]] a villain. Could also be a TakeThatScrappy where someone tells a hated character what the audience feels about them. This can lead to failure if the character receiving the speech CantTakeCriticism. Can also overlap with a CowardiceCallout, which is when someone calls someone else out for fear-based shortcomings.
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64	Compare and contrast the NoMoreHoldingBackSpeech, which may incorporate elements of this. Also FamilialChiding . See also DidYouActuallyBelieve and YoureNothingWithoutYourPhlebotinum. An ArmorPiercingResponse can provide a short, but effective way of calling someone out. Put to music, this is TheDissTrack, and can become a TheVillainSucksSong or TheHeroSucksSong. ForeignLanguageTirade is, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin quite fittingly]], a foreign-language variant of this trope.
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66	Contrast MinorInsultMeltdown, where just the tip of the "you suck" iceberg can sink someone to tears. Contrast also YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre and GradeSystemSnark. See also CompassionateCritic and ConstructiveCriticism. When a character applies this kind of speech to ''themself'', it's a TheReasonISuckSpeech. The CorrectiveLecture will focus more on ''why'' certain behaviors are unwise or bad without attacking the character of the person who did them.
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68	Compare and contrast TheMomVoice.
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70	Lastly; [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant no, this isn't the trope that's about the reasons that characters are bad at speaking. Neither is it a]] meta {{Justifi\|edTrope}}cation for ThisLoserIsYou. Finally you'll find that some of these can be used to serve as DareToBeBadass speeches too.
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72	For a deadlier variation of this {{trope}}, see ToThePain.
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74	!!Example subpages:
75	[[index]]
76	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/AnimeAndManga
77	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/ComicBooks
78	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/TheDCU
79	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/MarvelUniverse
80	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorks
81	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksAThroughG
82	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksHThroughM
83	*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksMiraculousLadybug
84	*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksMyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic
85	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksNThroughZ
86	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FanWorksCrossovers
87	*** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/Iron117Prime
88	*** ''TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/FairyMayCry''
89	*** ''TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/CodePrime''
90	*** ''TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/InfinityTrainBlossomingTrail''
91	*** ''TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/SuperRWBYSisters''
92	* [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/AnimatedFilms Films — Animation]]
93	* [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/LiveActionFilms Films — Live-Action]]
94	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/MarvelCinematicUniverse
95	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/{{Literature}}
96	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/LiveActionTV
97	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/TVNumbersToM
98	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/TVNToZ
99	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/{{Music}}
100	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/ProfessionalWrestling
101	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/BryanDanielson
102	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/CMPunk
103	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/JohnCena
104	** TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/TheMiz
105	* {{TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/Theatre}}
106	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/VideoGames
107	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/VisualNovels
108	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/WebAnimation
109	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/{{Webcomics}}
110	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/WebOriginal
111	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/WesternAnimation
112	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/OtherMedia
113	* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech/RealLife
114	[[/index]]
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116	->''"[[Film/ThePrincessBride I would not say such things if I WERE YOOUUU!]]"''

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