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| 15 | [[caption-width-right:350:Who are ''these'' guys?[[note]]L-R: John Densmore, Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek.[[/note]]]] |
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| 17 | ->''Citing artistic differences\ |
| 18 | The band broke up in May\ |
| 19 | And in June reformed without me\ |
| 20 | And they'd got a different name'' |
| 21 | -->-- '''[[Music/BenFolds Ben Folds Five]]''', "Army" |
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| 23 | When a musical group loses one (or more) of its key members, such as the lead singer or a very popular member, it usually breaks up -- but not always. Occasionally, a band tries to continue without its "face", sometimes because [[ContractualObligationProject it is legally obligated to]]. |
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| 25 | Sometimes the group tries to replace the departed member, sometimes not. (If this happens, the new member is often dismissed by fans as a ReplacementScrappy.) Either way, more often than not, the result is bad, and the band rarely lasts more than one or two more albums. It can also lead to both CanonDiscontinuity and FanonDiscontinuity, as performers and fans all try to forget the inferior post-face recordings ever existed. However, on rare occasions, a band gets lucky and averts the trope by attracting a new, larger audience. |
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| 27 | Many bands both avert this trope and play it straight; it isn't uncommon for a band to survive the departure of one key member only to later see their popularity fade after the loss of a different member. |
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| 29 | In a related phenomenon, sometimes a famous singer's backing band takes a "vacation" from its leader, releasing its own original material while still under the singer's employ. It's kind of a SoloSideProject, only involving more than one member of a group. |
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| 31 | It's an open question what the group will call themselves if they formerly had an ArtistAndTheBand style name. |
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| 33 | Compare and contrast the musical applications of GrowingTheBeard. |
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| 40 | The band flounders without the face. |
| 41 | * 2 Unlimited was reformed as a girl group after the original two faces, Ray Slijngaard and Anita Doth, parted ways. It didn't last long, as [[OneBookAuthor they only produced one album]] before breaking up themselves. |
| 42 | * 4 Strings' lead singer, Vanessa van Hemert, left the group in 2005 shortly before the release of their third album, ''Mainline'', with "Sunrise" being passed off as her farewell single. [[SubvertedTrope However]], similar to Milli Vanilli, it was later revealed that she did not actually perform the vocals on the songs credited to her, [[TheInvisibleBand those instead being sung by Susanne Teutenberg]]. |
| 43 | * Music/TenThousandManiacs soldiered on after Natalie Merchant left. They gained a new lead singer, Mary Ramsey and their first album with Ramsey produced the biggest hit in the band's career, a CoverVersion of Music/RoxyMusic's "More Than This". Since then however, their album sales have stagnated and they never retained the overall popularity they had when Merchant was the singer. |
| 44 | * Music/{{Accept}} have had this twice. The first time, they replaced iconic lead singer Udo Dirkschneider with David Reece. The resulting album, ''Eat the Heat'', was derided as being too commercial, and they quickly split up. The second time, Udo was replaced by Frank Tornillo. However, since ''Blood of the Nations'' has received fairly good reviews, this may count as an aversion. |
| 45 | * When Music/AliceCooper transitioned from being a band to being a solo act, the original members of the band other than Cooper himself (along with an additional guitarist/vocalist and keyboardist) became Billion Dollar Babies. Their lone album, 1977's ''Battle Axe'', didn't do well critically or commercially, and now it's mostly known as a footnote to Alice Cooper's career. |
| 46 | * After Alice Deejay's girl trio split up, the producers attempted to start anew as Candee Jay with vocalist Ilze Lankhaar. But like the aforementioned fellow Dutch act 2 Unlimited, the reformation only lasted for one album. In 2014, the project was rebooted again as Alice DJ with Ilona Vangelder as the new face, and in 2021, original face Judith Pronk returned to performing live after nearly two decades. |
| 47 | * Music/BadCompany broke up in 1982, then reunited in 1986 minus original singer Paul Rodgers, hiring Brian Howe as his replacement and taking on a more contemporary HardRock sound. (To be fair, they only used the name "Bad Company" at [[ExecutiveMeddling the insistence]] of Creator/AtlanticRecords.) While Howe-era Bad Company didn't do too badly on the charts, hitting the Top 40 thrice, fan and critical reception were nowhere near that of the classic Bad Company with Rodgers, guitarist Mick Ralphs, bassist Boz Burrell, and drummer Simon Kirke. Eventually, Howe himself was replaced by Robert Hart. The classic lineup would briefly reunite in the late 1990s, recording four new songs for a GreatestHits compilation before Burrell left. (He died in 2006, ending further reunions of the classic lineup.) Since then, Rodgers and Kirke (joined by Ralphs when his health permits) have toured sporadically, although there have been no studio recordings since 2002 when two new songs were included on a LiveAlbum. |
| 48 | * Music/BadReligion lost their lead guitarist and co-songwriter, Brett Gurewitz, twice. The first was for a single EP that most fans have never even heard (the OldShame that preceded it reluctantly included Gurewitz). The second was for several years on a major label, spanning three albums. While ''The New America'' is considered a reasonable album, the other two are an AudienceAlienatingEra, mostly from Greg Graffin not being able to come up with enough album-worthy material by himself in a just a year or two. Worth noting is that Guerwitz appears as a guest guitarist on ''The New America'' and returned to the band full-time for their next album. |
| 49 | * Another band that suffered following the departure of its lead singer was Big Brother and the Holding Company. After Music/JanisJoplin left, the band recruited several new members (including two replacement vocalists) and released ''Be a Brother''. Few accepted the invitation, which may be why Big Brother's next album (and their last for 15 years) was titled ''How Hard It Is''. |
| 50 | * When brothers Chris and Rich Robinson, of [[Music/TheBlackCrowes The Black Crowes]], finally couldn't stand each other any more, the band dissolved. Lead singer Chris started his own band - pointedly called The Chris Robinson Brotherhood - almost immediately. Guitarist Rich, meanwhile, did solo work for a few years before recruiting former Black Crowes guitarist Marc Ford and bass player Sven Pipien to form The Magpie Salute. They perform covers, new works, and Black Crowes tracks. |
| 51 | * After Shannon Hoon's death in 1995, Music/BlindMelon reformed with a vocalist who had a somewhat similar style and released one album under the name Unified Theory; years later they reformed again with a vocalist with a ''very'' similar singing style, this time touring and releasing an album under the Blind Melon name again. Both albums had relatively good reception from fans, but didn't attract much attention outside of the fan base. |
| 52 | * Bloodrock was sort of a cross between Music/GrandFunkRailroad and Music/BlackSabbath, a HardRock band [[OneHitWonder best known]] for their morbid [[TeenageDeathSongs Teenage Death Song]] hit "D.O.A.". When singer Jim Rutledge and guitarist Lee Pickens left, the remaining members brought in singer/flutist Warren Ham and went in a [[NewSoundAlbum new direction]], changing their style to ProgressiveRock and [[CreatorBacklash refusing to play much of their earlier material]], including "D.O.A.", in concert. However, old fans weren't interested and they didn't get many new fans, so Bloodrock finally broke up. |
| 53 | * After Melanie Thornton left La Bouche, the rest of the group produced the single "All I Want" with Natacha Wright, which was a flop. Following [[DiedDuringProduction Thornton's death in a plane crash]], they [[PosthumousCollaboration posthumously used]] vocals from her unfinished solo material to produce "In Your Life" and its B-side "Take Me to Heaven Tonight". |
| 54 | * Following Severina Sol's departure from The Break Up, the remaining members continued under the name Blakk Glass, though they too have been AWOL in recent years. |
| 55 | * Bronski Beat's trademark falsetto vocalist, Jimmy Somerville, left after ''The Age of Consent'' to found The Communards, and was replaced by non-falsetto Jon Foster for ''Truth Dare Double Dare'', the group's second and last full-length album. Following Foster's departure, Steve Bronski and Larry Steinbachek continued as a duo for a few years before disbanding completely. |
| 56 | * Damo Suzuki wasn't Music/{{Can}}'s original vocalist (their first album featured Malcolm Mooney) and was only with them for three years, but for many people Can ''are'' that band with the crazy Japanese singer, with the Malcolm Mooney era seen as EarlyInstallmentWeirdness and the post-Suzuki albums (with the possible exception of the first, ''Soon Over Babaluma'') generally ignored altogether. |
| 57 | * Music/{{Chrome|Band}} became known in the early '80s when the band was a collaboration between Damon Edge and Helios Creed. Therefore, they've gone through this trope twice: first when Helios left and Damon took full control, and second when Damon {{died|during production}} and Helios took the name back. |
| 58 | * By 1985, Music/TheClash had lost two of its classic lineup, Mick Jones and Topper Headon. The two left behind, Joe Strummer and Paul Simonon, recruited some new musicians and recorded ''Music/CutTheCrap'' -- an [[IronicEpisodeTitle ironic title]], considering that the album was rejected by most fans, most critics, and the group itself. Indeed, it was a very TroubledProduction; Strummer is the only band member on most of the tracks because manager Bernie Rhodes, who [[ExecutiveMeddling took creative control of the album]] over Strummer's [[CreatorBacklash vociferous protests]], replaced Simonon and the new members with session musicians. With the exception of one well-regarded track, the single "This Is England", ''Cut the Crap'' has been more or less purged from Clash history. Strummer regarded it as an OldShame; as he said in a 1989 interview, "I often think of [the new members]. I hope it didn't mess up their lives too much". |
| 59 | * When Lord Worm was fired from Cryptopsy, they continued with new vocalist Matt [=McGachy=]. Their first album with him, ''The Unspoken King'', was a gigantic misstep that very nearly destroyed their career, but their subsequent releases with him have been far better received. |
| 60 | ** Lord Worm had actually left Cryptopsy once before, in 1997. They went through two lead singers, Mike [=DiSalvo=] and Martin Lacroix, before he returned in 2003. |
| 61 | * Danny and the Juniors released "At the Hop" in 1957, and didn't have a whole lot of success after that. Danny Rapp committed suicide in 1983, but the remainder of the quartet -- now a trio -- continues performing on the oldies circuit as Danny and the Juniors despite the absence of anyone named Danny in the group. |
| 62 | * The Music/DeadKennedys' messy breakup resulted in the band continuing to tour without singer Music/JelloBiafra, angering fans who felt that the new version of the DK's betrayed everything the original group stood for -- for example, rewriting "MTV Get Off the Air" into "[=MP3=] Get Off the Web"[[note]]For those of you who don't get ''why'' this is a betrayal, [[TechnologyMarchesOn back in the days of home taping being the main way to pirate music]], the DK's intentionally left the B-side of the ''In God We Trust Inc.'' cassette blank with the message "Home taping is killing record industry profits! We left this side blank so you can help." printed on the label; many DK's fans immediately noted the hypocrisy and abandoned the band in the post-Biafra years.[[/note]]; this may help explain why the new DK's have gone through no less than ''four'' singers. Atypically for this trope, the post-Biafra Dead Kennedys haven't attempted any new material (all their releases since the split have been compilations or live albums dating from the Biafra era), while Jello has released several solo/spoken word albums, collaborated with multiple bands - including Lard, the Music/{{Melvins}}, Music/{{DOA}}, and Music/{{Ministry}}, among others - and has even started a new band, Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine. The kicker? ''More Dead Kennedys fans have voiced their support for Jello's post-DK's career than they support the current Dead Kennedys.'' |
| 63 | * Decoded Feedback's Marco Biagiotti and Yone Dudas split up due to internal tensions in 2018, with the latter now using the name as a solo vehicle. |
| 64 | * The Russian band Diskoteka Avariya suffered from this twice. Up until 2002, while there was no official face for the band, rapper Oleg Zhukov was the most popular member, not only due to his [[BigFun stature]] and [[AWildRapperAppears tendency to pop up for one verse in every song]], but also to his charisma, comedic timing, very good rapping skills and recognizable voice. Not to mention, that the other members (mostly self-effacing composer/lyricist/keyboardist/occasional rapper Alexey Ryzhov and two virtually interchangeable vocalists Nikolay Timofeev and Alexey Serov) didn't particularly stand out. Zhukov died in 2002, and the band decided to go on, with PrettyBoy Timofeev as the band's official face, but the loss had clearly hit their popularity hard. In 2012, Timofeev either left the band or was fired from it (it depends on who you ask) and was completely [[{{Unperson}} un-personed]] despite being one of the band's two founders. After a brief attempt to put a new female singer in the spotlight that fizzled out after one album, the wiry and energetic Serov seems to have become the band's third face. |
| 65 | * Most people agree that Don Caballero hasn't been the same since guitarist Ian Williams left. The bassist quit shortly after he did, leaving only drummer Damon Che left. Che tried to salvage the band, but the results were...[[FanonDiscontinuity disappointing, to say the least.]] |
| 66 | * After Jim Morrison died in 1971, the surviving members of Music/TheDoors recorded two [[ContractualObligationProject contractually obligated]] albums without him, ''Other Voices'' (shown above) and ''Full Circle''. The albums were poorly received and eventually forgotten, and they were not included in reissues of the Doors' catalog until they were finally rereleased in 2015. |
| 67 | * After Music/StevieRayVaughan's death in a helicopter crash in 1990, his band Double Trouble kept playing and recording together. In 2001, they released the album ''Been a Long Time'', which featured guest appearances from blues musicians such as Susan Tedeschi, Kenny Wayne Sheppard and Dr. John in Vaughan's stead. The album didn't sell despite the star-studded lineup, and Double Trouble didn't release another album until 2019. |
| 68 | * When Vancouver-based band Doug And The Slugs stopped recording studio albums, lead singer Doug Bennett toured for a good 12 years with a rotating group of backing musicians, [[InNameOnly still billing them as Doug And The Slugs]]. Following his death in 2004, the other original band members reunited with a new singer and are now touring as Doug And The Slugs despite not having Doug. |
| 69 | * Following their initial breakup in 1997, the UK boy band East 17 had periods where it was either singer/songwriter Tony Mortimer or lead singer Brian Harvey leading the band by themselves while backing singers Terry Coldwell and John Hendy remained the only constant members of the group. Today the band has no longer either Mortimer or Harvey but continues with the two backing singers and new lead singer Robbie Craig. |
| 70 | * Music/EchoAndTheBunnymen reformed in 1990 with original singer Ian [=McCulloch=] replaced by Noel Burke. Only one album was recorded, ''Reverberation'', before its poor reception led the band to dissolve again. [=McCulloch=] returned for the 1997 reformation. |
| 71 | * Music/EmersonLakeAndPalmer disbanded in 1978 after the disappointing contractual obligation album ''Love Beach'' flopped. The three of them went their separate ways, Keith Emerson mainly to do film scores, Greg Lake working as a solo artist, Carl Palmer as a member of another supergroup, Music/{{Asia}}. In 1986, Emerson and Lake formed Emerson, Lake & ''Powell'' with ex-Music/BlackSabbath and Music/{{Rainbow}} drummer Cozy Powell, released one SelfTitledAlbum before disbanding. Moderate sales and financial problems led to the original ELP trying to reunite, but after Lake opted out, Emerson and Palmer formed 3 with American singer/guitarist/bassist Robert Berry (who replaced Music/SteveHackett in GTR for one ill-fated attempt at a second album), but 1988's ''Three To The Power Of Three'', their only album together, also stalled. ELP finally reunited in 1992. |
| 72 | * HardRock band Music/EvansBlue, known for their dark experimental sound and inventive lyrics, famously [[BrokenBase broke their own fan base]] in firing lead singer and lyricist Kevin Matisyn. He was eventually replaced by the more radio-friendly Dan Chandler, resulting in a much more generic sound. The band never quite reached the level of success and visibility they had enjoyed with Matisyn, and are currently on hiatus. Matisyn moved on as a solo act and as the lead singer of Parabelle but has found even less success than his former bandmates in either case. |
| 73 | * Exposé's original lineup disbanded in 1985 after their first two singles, "Exposed to Love" and "Point of No Return", with two of the members pursuing solo careers, and producer Lewis Martineé reformed the group with Gioia Bruno, Ann Curless, and Jeanette Jurado for their third single "Come Go With Me" and the albums ''Exposure'' and ''What You Don't Know''. In 1992, Bruno lost her voice due to surgery for a benign throat tumor and was replaced by Kelly Moneymaker for their self-titled final album, which performed rather poorly. |
| 74 | * When Ian Matthews left Music/FairportConvention, he started his own country rock group, Matthews Southern Comfort, which released two albums. Afterwards, Matthews went solo, but his backing band renamed themselves Southern Comfort and did three albums without him. |
| 75 | * Faithless, following a decade-long hiatus, reunited in 2020 without rapper and lead singer Maxi Jazz to produce the album ''All Blessed'' with an ensemble of guest vocalists. |
| 76 | * Music/FearFactory disbanded in 2002 after all members were in a feud with founding member Dino Cazares, but reformed the following year without him. This line-up made 2 albums: ''Archetype'', which was favourably received, and ''Transgression'', which, to date, is considered by many fans as their worst album. |
| 77 | ** Dino Cazares finally came back in 2009 after Fear Factory was pretty much in hiatus since 2006. As a result, Raymond Herrera and Christian Olde Wolbers left the band. '''For good'''. |
| 78 | * The classic lineup of NoiseRock band Music/{{Flipper}} had Will Shatter and Bruce Lose trading duties on vocals and bass, along with guitarist Ted Falconi and drummer Steve [=DePace=]. Over time, Shatter OD'd and Loose[[note]]not a typo; he changed the spelling of his StageName[[/note]] retired due to back injuries. However, Flipper endures, with Falconi and [=DePace=] joined by a rotating cast of singers and bassists. |
| 79 | * In the world of GospelMusic, this happens pretty frequently, with a group forming around a person, or name, and trying to keep going after the founder/dominant personality is gone. |
| 80 | ** When JD Sumner of JD Sumner and the Stamps Quartet died, Ed Enoch tried to keep the name and keep going but was forced for a few years to call the group Ed Enoch and Golden Covenant, which few knew or cared about. He finally got the rights to the name, but without JD, nobody thought of them as the Stamps. |
| 81 | ** James Blackwood was the driving force behind the Blackwood Brothers, especially as his actual brothers eventually all left. When he left as well in 1980, leaving the group in the hands of his son and nephew, not many were thrilled with it and tried to pretend the group no longer existed. Several years after James's death, his son Jimmy started the group up again, eventually helping the group live up to its name when his brother Billy joined. Billy is the only Blackwood still with the group today, and their popularity is once again fading. |
| 82 | ** Hovie Lister and the Statesman Quartet were gospel superstars, but after Lister's death, the other four members tried to keep going as the Happy Rhythm Quartet. No one remembers this happening. |
| 83 | ** The Cathedrals officially ended their run with the death of Glen Payne, but several groups rose from their ashes, including the Legacy Five and Ernie Haase & Signature Sound. Both have repertoires that heavily draw from their years with the Cathedrals, but wisely, neither group has even tried to use that name. |
| 84 | * When Mark Farner left Music/GrandFunkRailroad in 1976, the remaining members continued on under the name Flint (after the city in UsefulNotes/{{Michigan}} where the band was formed), until Farner came back five years later. |
| 85 | * A few years after Music/TheGuessWho broke up in 1975, they received offers to reunite. The best-known members -- Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman -- were busy with their solo careers, but some of the other members formed a new version of the group -- and at the same time, bassist Jim Kale secured rights to the band's name. While the classic lineup played some gigs and released the live album and video ''Together Again'' in 1983, the rest of the Guess Who's post-1975 releases have come from [[RevolvingDoorBand several different lineups]], many of which had Kale as the only original member, none of which featured Cummings or Bachman. |
| 86 | * Music/GunsNRoses (seen in the averted examples) could also be seen as an inversion - all ''but'' Axl Rose left. The "new" GNR put out ''Chinese Democracy'' after 14 years without an album, and many fans declared it a massive failure, [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending it was never made]]. A few only cut him some slack once he brought Slash and Duff back. |
| 87 | * Highway 101's fortunes faded fast after lead singer Paulette Carlson left and Nikki Nelson took her place. Carlson had a #21 hit with "I'll Start with You" and had no further success, while her former band's biggest hit with Nikki, "Bing Bang Boom", only got to #14. Carlson later rejoined the band (by which point their momentum had stopped entirely), but after she left a second time, Chrislynn Lee replaced her. Then ''Lee'' left and Nelson rejoined. |
| 88 | * After lead singer Allan Clarke left Music/TheHollies in 1971, the band hired an unknown Swedish singer named Mikael Rickfors to replace him. Rickfors was solid in the studio, but live shows were another matter. Rickfors completely lacked Clarke's charisma on stage, and his sound was so different from Clarke's that when the band tried to play their old hits, the results sounded strange and awkward. The albums recorded with Rickfors are highly regarded but were commercial failures that sounded nothing like the trademark Hollies sound. The band eventually reunited with Clarke, and Rickfors was let go. |
| 89 | * Music/WaylonJennings, Tommy Allsup, and Carl Bunch backed up Music/BuddyHolly on the ill-fated Winter Dance Party, and after the crash, Holly was replaced with Ronnie Smith, and this new lineup later became the Jitters. They had little success, they soon broke up, Jennings became a solo star, and Smith was committed to a Texas state hospital for drug abuse in 1962, where he hanged himself in the bathroom. |
| 90 | * When original singer Edwin left I Mother Earth, they managed to put out two more albums with Brian Byrne before imploding, though admittedly there were [[ExecutiveMeddling other factors]]. On the other hand, four studio albums is an impressive catalogue for an early 90s Canadian alt-rock band, since most were lucky to get to three. |
| 91 | * The Idle Race released one last album, ''Time Is'', in the UK after Jeff Lynne left for Music/TheMove and Mike Hopkins and Dave Walker took over. Never mind that they had a Top 10 hit, albeit only in Argentina, with a cover of Mungo Jerry's "In the Summertime." |
| 92 | * When Music/BruceDickinson left Music/IronMaiden in 1993, he was replaced by a relative unknown, Wolfsbane singer Blaze Bayley, who also had a different singing style from the iconic Dickinson. Sales of Maiden albums were disappointing with Bayley as vocalist, and during this period, the band was on CMC International Records, a label that was to hard rock and metal in the grunge/alt era as Branson, MO is to '50s and '60s pop and country stars. Dickinson would return to the band in 1999, and pretty soon Maiden was back to its old glory, releasing the well-received and successful ''Brave New World'' in 2000. |
| 93 | * After Michael Hutchence, the singer for Music/{{INXS}}, tragically died in 1997, the group continued on with a new lead singer named Jon Stevens, who joined the group in 2002. Stevens then quit the group a year later to focus on a solo career, and the band eventually became involved with the ''Rock Star'' television series, where they crowned Canadian unknown J.D. Fortune as the new lead singer. Fortune released an album with the group (which received moderately good reviews and spawned a surprise top 40 hit with "Pretty Vegas"), the band "fired" him via an informal handshake at a Hong Kong airport, then re-hired him immediately afterwards, then the band continued with Fortune until replacing him with Irish singer Ciaran Gribbin for the last two years of their existence. |
| 94 | * When charismatic singer Peter Wolf left Music/TheJGeilsBand, the lead vocal duties were handed over to keyboardist Seth Justman. This arrangement lasted for all of one disappointing album before the band called it quits. The band reunited in 2009 with Wolf in tow, but namesake guitarist J. Geils quit following a legal spat in 2012 and died in 2017. The band toured until 2015 with the rest of its classic lineup intact, but it left them in the precarious position of being without the person who both founded the band and for whom it is literally named after. |
| 95 | * Alanna [=McArdle=], lead singer of Welsh indie rock band Joanna Gruesome, departed the group in 2015 just weeks after they released their second album ''Peanut Butter''. The band replaced her with two new singers for their ensuing tour, but they never released another album or single, and eventually split into other projects. |
| 96 | * When Rob Halford left Music/JudasPriest in 1992 to pursue other projects, they recruited Tim "Ripper" Owens to front the band until his return in 2003, releasing two albums in that time. Owens' previous gig was singing for a Judas Priest tribute band, which inspired the movie ''Film/RockStar''. These albums were not as well received as the albums with Halford, and when he returned to the band, the fandom rejoiced. |
| 97 | * Music/TheKentuckyHeadhunters lost brothers Ricky Lee Phelps (lead vocals) and Doug Phelps (bass guitar) before their third album, ''Rave On!!'' They were replaced by lead singer Mark Orr and bassist Anthony Kenney. Orr left after only one album, and Doug came back, taking over his brother's former role as lead singer. After Kenney left, Doug also became bassist again. |
| 98 | * Music/TheKLF sampled from some Wanda Dee songs on their stadium house singles and their album ''The White Room''--and owing to some weird copyright clause, this left Dee holding partial rights to the songs that sampled her. These songs wound up being much more popular than her original music. So when Jim Cauty and Bill Drummond (the only members of the KLF) retired from making music, she took advantage of their absence by using those tracks at her live shows and touring as "Wanda Dee featuring The KLF". No one was particularly amused. |
| 99 | * Music/LinkinPark is still around despite the tragic suicide of Chester Bennington their lead singer. However they are on hiatus and are trying to shape the band's future. |
| 100 | * Little Texas also went through this a lot. Initially, Tim Rushlow was the frontman, although keyboardist Brady Seals and rhythm guitarist Dwayne O'Brien [[StepUpToTheMicrophone occasionally sang lead instead]] (except for the fourth album, where Seals' replacement Jeff Huskins was only a keyboardist and not a vocalist). The band was broken up between 1997 and 2004. After the other four members of reunited without Seals, Rushlow, or Huskins (both Seals and Rushlow were in other bands at the time, and Huskins had founded a record label), they chose Steven Troy as their new lead vocalist. A record producer then convinced them to promote lead guitarist Porter Howell to lead vocals instead, and Howell is the one singing on their 2007 album ''Missing Years''. |
| 101 | * Until 1998, Music/{{Lonestar}} had [[VocalTagTeam two lead singers]]: Richie [=McDonald=] and bassist John Rich. John was fired from the band in 1998, eventually founding Big & Rich with Big Kenny, and Lonestar went on to have some of its biggest hits, such as "Amazed" and "I'm Already There", with [=McDonald=] as sole lead singer. [=McDonald=] left in 2007 over CreativeDifferences, and was replaced by Cody Collins, who sounds nothing like [=McDonald=]. The band cut one middling album (''Party Heard Around The World'') with Collins as lead, then he left in 2011. [=McDonald=] rejoined after his solo career went nowhere, but by this point, the band's star had deeply faded. |
| 102 | * Music/{{Lostprophets}} lost its frontman Ian Watkins in 2013 after Watkins was arrested for and confessed to child sexual abuse. The remaining members formed Music/NoDevotion with Geoff Rickly of Music/{{Thursday}}. |
| 103 | * Music/TheLovinSpoonful released one more album after John Sebastian left (with drummer Joe Butler taking over lead vocals), then called it quits. |
| 104 | * Music/LynyrdSkynyrd is probably the most extreme example in popular music. In 1977, a plane crash killed Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines (who had performed on the band's just-released ''Street Survivors'' album), his sister Cassie (a member of the band's backup singers, The Honkettes), and several members of the band's production staff. The crash also injured bassist Leon Wilkeson, who needed over two years of physical therapy to recover. The band disbanded after the tragedy but reformed ten years later with Ronnie's younger brother Johnny and a rotating cast of new blood. Of the original members, only guitarist Gary Rossington remained until his death on March 5, 2023. |
| 105 | * After Music/MeatLoaf attained massive popular success with ''Music/BatOutOfHell'', songwriter-producer Music/JimSteinman wrote a followup album for the singer. When he proved unable to perform due to illness, Steinman brought Meat Loaf's band into the studio and sang the songs himself, releasing the album, ''Bad for Good'', under his own name. While critics generally deemed it mediocre and found Steinman's voice a poor substitute for Meat Loaf's, it achieved a Top 40 hit with "Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through". Meat Loaf would eventually record most of the songs on the album himself for various projects. |
| 106 | * BigBand legend Music/GlennMiller died during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, but there have been two posthumous versions of The Glenn Miller Orchestra. Tex Beneke, the original band's singer/saxophonist, kept the band going immediately after Miller's death; however, he ran into CreativeDifferences with Miller's estate, who organized their own orchestra in 1956. Not only did that group continue recording and touring, it still exists today. |
| 107 | * A weird version: The Real Music/MilliVanilli started performing under that name after it was revealed that the Faces had never actually been involved in the music at all. However, in addition to the actual original singers, this new incarnation also included new members Ray Horton and Gina Mohammed - two young pretty faces who were shown off more prominently in marketing material than the actual veteran members. The stigma following the band's lip-synching scandal sank the new album anyway, and Mohammed and Horton were shuffled off into the new group Try 'N' B. The old "faces", Rob & Fab, also recorded an album, but it too went nowhere despite being better received than Try 'N' B and The Real Milli Vanilli's work. |
| 108 | * A while after Music/TheMisfits front man Glenn Danzig (a multi-instrumentalist responsible for writing 90% of the original band's music) left the band for Samhain and later his own solo work, some of the remaining members, led by Jerry Only, went on to revive the band in the '90s. New member Micheal Graves (who actually admitted to never having heard a Misfits song before he joined the group) performed vocals on two reasonably well received (though far more accessible and pop-punk influenced) albums, while Only himself took over for the remainder of their (far less popular) work. Many fans of the classic Misfits refuse to allow that any band lacking Glenn Danzig truly qualifies as "The Misfits". |
| 109 | ** Well, at least the Michael Graves era is well regarded by many fans of the band as a good, but different band, the HeavyMetal influences opened the fanbase beyond the PunkRock niche, however Jerry Only's later work is bashed by a select number of both punk rockers and metalheads for being weak and not as scary as their previous material. |
| 110 | ** On the other hand, a number of fans have willingly accepted ''Devil's Rain'' as genuinely good, and have grown weary of a lot of Danzig's {{Jerkass}} behavior over the years. |
| 111 | * Moby Grape recorded two albums after Skip Spence left, went on hiatus, and pretty much released nothing until Spence returned. |
| 112 | * By 1970, after Music/TheMonkees' [[Series/TheMonkees TV series]] had been canceled ''and'' both Music/MichaelNesmith and Peter Tork, the members who had pushed hardest to gain creative control of the music, had left, the band's future looked bleak. However, Saturday morning reruns of the show did well enough that the two remaining members -- Micky Dolenz and Davy Jones -- made one more album -- ''Changes'', a return to the bubblegum pop of the group's earliest hits, only not as good. Despite songs from ''Changes'' being inserted into the existing reruns, the LP didn't even make the Billboard Top 200 album chart on its initial release, and The Monkees were finished -- until their successful 20th-anniversary reunion in 1986. When ''Changes'' (along with the rest of The Monkees' catalogue) was subsequently reissued, it finally made the charts, peaking at #152. |
| 113 | * Following the firing of vocalist Vince Neil in 1992, Music/MotleyCrue replaced him with Scream vocalist John Corabi, who sang for the band in their self-titled 1994 album. With grunge and alternative dominating the rock scene, the album was a comparative flop to its predecessors, and diehard Crue fans had a hard time getting used to the guttural, deeper-voiced Corabi replacing the nasal, high-pitched Neil on lead vocals. The shift to a harder-edged sound also didn't sit too well with longtime fans. Neil eventually returned to the band in 1997, and while the Crue never sold as well as they did in their 1980s hair metal heyday, they at least did better than with Corabi. Subsequent albums with Neil were more faithful to the band's classic sound, bar 1997's alternative-ish ''Generation Swine''. |
| 114 | * While 'Fast Eddie' Clarke wasn't strictly The Face of Music/{{Motorhead}}, his replacement with former Music/ThinLizzy guitarist Brian Robertson met with this reaction in 1983. Although the resulting album, ''Another Perfect Day'', was strong, Robertson indulged in behavior that alienated Motorhead fans, including performing in tight disco shorts and insisting on playing long blues jams while refusing to play Clarke's songs. |
| 115 | * After Ian Hunter left Music/MottTheHoople, the band shortened its name to Mott and continued with two more albums, ''Drive On'' (which was at least a decent seller, peaking at #35) and ''Shouting and Pointing'' (which didn't chart at all). |
| 116 | * {{Europop}} group Novaspace replaced frontwoman Jessica Boehrs with Jenny Marsala after the former left in 2006 to focus on her TV acting career, and re-recorded their prior singles "Dancing with Tears In My Eyes" (Music/{{Ultravox}} cover) and "Time After Time"(Music/CyndiLauper cover) with Marsala on vocals. Needless to say, their popularity and musical quality took a nosedive, and they disbanded altogether in 2011. (The Dutch Euro-trance group of the same name founded around this time is unrelated) |
| 117 | * Once Music/GaryNuman temporarily retired as a live act in 1981, his backing band went on as Dramatis. Their lone album, ''For Future Reference'', had keyboardist Chris Payne taking lead vocals, and mimicked Numan's science-fiction-themed SynthPop to some extent. They did manage a top 40 hit in the UK with "Love Needs No Disguise", which featured Gary Numan himself on guest vocals. Otherwise, they're largely a footnote to Gary Numan's career, enough so that when their album finally saw release on CD in 2000, it was [[CoversAlwaysLie repackaged]] as an album called ''The Dramatis Project'' by Tubeway Army Featuring Gary Numan. |
| 118 | * After Noel Gallagher left Music/{{Oasis}}, Liam and the other three guys renamed themselves Beady Eye. Their debut album sold decently, but nowhere near as well as an Oasis album would have. They broke up after their follow-up ''Be'' flopped and drummer Chris Sharrock wound up joining Noel's considerably more successful band, Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds. |
| 119 | * When they were dumped by their record label, October Project's Mary Fahl then struck out on a solo career, taking her signature contralto with her. October Project, meanwhile, attempted several times to carry on without her, first as November Project, then as October Project again. While Mary has been able to get a CD out in stores since then, as well as appear on a couple of movie soundtracks, the larger part of the group has had only a few limited-run releases. |
| 120 | * Indie pop girl group Music/ThePipettes has seen many lineup changes: the band's most successful lineup of Rebecca "[=RiotBecki=]" Stephens, Rose Elinor Dougall, and Gwenno Saunders is the second lineup. Saunders replaced Julia Laird-Clowes, who left to become the singer and keyboardist for the indie band The Indelicates. After the release of their popular 2006 debut ''We Are the Pipettes'', Stephens and Dougall left the band, with Dougall going onto a critically acclaimed solo career. Saunders and Monster Bobby (the group's co-creator and leader of their backing band) continued the group, recruiting replacements that ''also'' departed soon afterwards. The group's second album, ''Earth vs. Pipettes'' only features Saunders and her sister Ani in the lineup, and it tanked in both sales and critical reception. |
| 121 | * Music/ThePogues continued for a few years after firing lead singer and songwriter Shane [=MacGowan=], who was temporarily replaced by Joe Strummer of Music/TheClash before the band settled on co-founder Spider Stacy as their new lead singer. Their first post-[=MacGowan=] album, 1993's ''Waiting for Herb'' produced one of their biggest hits, "Tuesday Morning", but the album itself was savaged by critics and suffered poor sales. The band called it quits after their next album 1996's ''Pogue Mahone'' fared worse critically and sales-wise, and did not reunite until the members patched things up with [=MacGowan=] in 2001. |
| 122 | * Fourteen years after the death of Freddie Mercury, Music/{{Queen}} performed a reunion tour and three years later, recorded an album with Paul Rodgers of Music/BadCompany and Free as vocalist. Sensing that perhaps their fanbase wouldn't accept Rodgers as a replacement for Mercury, the album was listed as being by "Paul Rodgers and Queen" as if to suggest Rodgers was a collaborative artist rather than a band member. Many fans reacted less warmly to this new team than to their solo work. Queen has since done a number of such performances and singles, credited as "Queen + [artist]". |
| 123 | * Scum of the Earth was formed when Music/{{Rob Zombie}}'s lead guitarist Riggs and drummer John Tempesta got tired of doing nothing while Rob himself was filming ''Film/HouseOf1000Corpses''. While reviews of Scum of the Earth mainly range between average to good, the lack of a frontman with the charisma of Rob Zombie and a failure to carve out an identity beyond "Rob Zombie's band without Rob" caused the band to remain in relative obscurity. Tempesta eventually got frustrated with this and left Scum of the Earth to play drums for Music/TheCult. |
| 124 | * Sector 27 released at least one single after Tom Robinson left. |
| 125 | * The Music/SexPistols recorded a few songs after Johnny Rotten left, featuring a number of different vocalists. |
| 126 | * Music/{{Skeletonwitch}} fired Chance Garnette from the band around the end of 2014 due to many, many serious character flaws that were made far worse by his excessive drinking and mean drunk tendencies, and after a tour with a fill-in the following year, they welcomed in Adam Clemans of Wolvhammer in 2016 and released ''The Apothic Gloom'', their first release with him on vocals. Fan reaction has been mixed and they have still yet to warm up to him completely; while most fans understand that Chance had to go for the sake of the band's wellbeing, they also feel that Chance was such a major part of their sound and live show that it's not really Skeletonwitch without him. |
| 127 | * Music/SmashMouth lead singer Steve Harwell retired in the early 2020s due to both health concerns and erratic behavior. The band (now with only the bassist as a remaining founding member) replaced him to continue playing. |
| 128 | * The Sneaker Pimps' face in their early stages was singer Kelli Ali. Part of the reason why they dropped her was that she was the face - but she only sang the songs. Despite the warnings of their record label and the fans, Kelli was ignored and eventually kicked out of the band. Chris Corner, who did write the songs, became the singer (and the face) after that, and they released two more albums (the latter of which didn't chart at all) that failed to reach the success of ''Becoming X'' before disbanding completely in 2004. |
| 129 | * Disbanded in 1973, Music/DavidBowie's glam-era backing band the Spiders From Mars 'regrouped' in 1975, without Bowie or guitarist Mick Ronson (and of course without pianist Mike Garson, who had played on the Ziggy Stardust live tour). That left the original drummer and bassist alongside a number of unknown replacements: the group stayed together for one critically-panned album. |
| 130 | * Music/CatStevens' backup guitarist Alun Davies released an album titled ''Daydo'' in 1972 using some of Stevens' backing band, making this a Cat Stevens album in all but name (though Stevens himself appeared as guest artist). Critical reception was rather mixed (mainly because of its inclusion of [[WesternAnimation/AliceInWonderland "I'm Late"]]), and ''Daydo'' remains Davies' lone solo album to date. |
| 131 | * Music/StoneTemplePilots. After Scott Weiland left and the band broke up, the other members formed Army of Anyone with Filter singer Richard Patrick. Most STP fans don't know Army of Anyone exists, and if they do, they tend to deny it exists. |
| 132 | ** STP reunited in 2008, but fell into this trope once again when Scott Weiland was fired for unknown reasons and subsequently replaced with [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington]]. With 2015 marking both Bennington’s departure and Weiland’s death, followed by Bennington's suicide in 2017, the band has carried on with former ''Series/TheXFactorUS'' contestant Jeff Gutt. |
| 133 | ** In another Pilots-related example, there was Talk Show, a band the members formed with vocalist Dave Coutts in 1997, while Weiland was struggling with drug addiction and working on his first solo album. As with Army Of Anyone, the one album they released didn't do very well commercially and isn't too well-known even among fans. |
| 134 | * Music/TheStranglers recorded ten albums, the last four being international hits. They went for an eleventh (called ''10'', just to confuse matters), which fell flat. Singer Hugh Cornwell left, considering them a spent force, but the band kept going. The band's 2004 album ''Norfolk Coast'' and single "Big Thing Coming" were mildly successful, but ''far'' less so than the albums made when Cornwell was in the band. |
| 135 | * After Brian Setzer left The Stray Cats, the other two members -- Jim Phantom and Lee Rocker -- teamed up with former Music/DavidBowie guitarist Earl Slick to form a new group, Phantom, Rocker, and Slick. They had minor hits with "Men Without Shame" and "My Mistake" (which featured Keith Richards on guitar) and released two albums before dissolving. |
| 136 | * CountryMusic band Music/{{Shenandoah}} broke up in 1997 when lead singer Marty Raybon left to do one album with his brother Tim as the Raybon Brothers. Three years later, the band reunited with new lead singer Brent Lamb. He didn't last long, so new guitarist Curtis Wright became lead singer afterward. Wright then left to join Pure Prairie League, so songwriter Jimmy Yeary (who sounds uncannily like Raybon) took over. Yeary then quit to tour with his wife, Sonya Isaacs, in her gospel group, so Doug Stokes became the lead singer. ''Finally'', in 2014, Raybon rejoined. |
| 137 | * Music/{{Styx}} lost Dennis de Young, their vocalist and keyboardist/pianist whose singing had made the band. They've hardly done as successfully as de Young himself, who continues with his own band....still singing Styx songs just as well as he did before. |
| 138 | ** The 1990 ''Edge of the Century'' album retained De Young, but Glen Burtnik replaced Tommy Shaw in the line-up. |
| 139 | * In 2009, Music/{{Sublime}} started touring with new singer/guitarist Rome Ramirez replacing the late Brad Nowell. This didn't stick, as the Nowell family claims that Brad was the sole owner of the band name. The other two original members soon decided they didn't want to alienate Brad's widow, family, and friends and changed the name of the project to Sublime with Rome, which was accepted by Brad's family. After the release of Sublime with Rome's first album, drummer Bud Gaugh quit as he also felt the new musical project was disrespectful to Nowell, making Eric Wilson the only original member of Sublime in Sublime with Rome. |
| 140 | ** Prior to this there was Long Beach Dub All-Stars, who were ''also'' Sublime without Nowell. |
| 141 | * Music/{{Supertramp}} was formed in 1969 by keyboardist/vocalist Rick Davies (the bluesy, lower-pitched singer) and guitarist/keyboardist/vocalist (and at the time, bassist) Roger Hodgson (high tenor vocals), with a [[RevolvingDoorBand revolving-door lineup]]. The "classic" lineup (Hodgson, Davies, woodwind player John Halliwell, Scottish bassist Dougie Thomson, and American drummer Bob Siebenberg) formed in 1973. Hodgson and Davies [[VocalTagTeam rotated or shared roles as lead singers]], and (for the most part) wrote Supertramp's material individually, though in [[Music/TheBeatles Lennon/McCartney style]] credited the songs as Hodgson/Davies; Hodgson wrote and sang the majority of the band's hits. By 1983, Hodgson left, and Davies became the band's sole leader and main writer since, to lesser success. |
| 142 | * Music/TheSupremes managed to last several years after Diana Ross left (and even had a few minor hits), but were tremendously overshadowed by Ross's solo career. Most Supremes best-of albums barely acknowledge the Ross-less years (when Mary Wilson remained throughout), if at all. For this reason, they are sometimes called The70s Supremes. |
| 143 | * [[Music/SunRa The Sun Ra Arkestra]] has continued to successfully tour long after its founder returned to Saturn in 1993. |
| 144 | * Music/TalkingHeads broke up because of tension between singer/guitarist Music/DavidByrne and the rest of the band. In 1996, the group (under the shortened name The Heads) recorded ''No Talking, Just Head'', an album on which Byrne was replaced by a new guitarist and a variety of guest singers, including [[Music/{{Blondie|Band}} Debbie Harry]], Music/IggyPop, [[Music/{{INXS}} Michael Hutchence]], [[Music/{{XTC}} Andy Partridge]] and Johnette Napolitano (who sang lead on the accompanying tour). The album was not well received, and that was the end for any version of Talking Heads (except for a one-shot 2002 reunion gig celebrating the band's induction into the UsefulNotes/RockAndRollHallOfFame). |
| 145 | * After Music/ThinLizzy broke up and Phil Lynott died, the band had a few reunion projects before reuniting on a permanent basis in 1996 with former guitarist John Sykes as the lead singer. They've only released a single live album under the Thin Lizzy name since, so most people didn't really care. When a more recent lineup, with Ricky Warwick on vocals, started writing new material, they opted to release it under the name Black Star Riders out of respect for Lynott - they've said this doesn't rule out the same lineup still doing occasional live performances as Thin Lizzy though. |
| 146 | * Trick Pony ''tried'' to continue after the departure of Heidi Newfield, replacing her with Aubrey Collins. She only lasted ''eight months'' before leaving over CreativeDifferences. After guitarist Keith Burns left to form another group, the remaining member (bassist Ira Dean) tried in vain to re-form the band for many years until they finally got back together in 2014. |
| 147 | * Ali Campbell, frontman for [=UB40=] left the band in 2008 (he and the remaining bandmembers disagree as to why), along with keyboardist Mickey Virtue, and was replaced by his brother Duncan. Then in 2013, Ali, calling the existing group "my brother murdering my songs" and "playing smaller and smaller venues", recruited Virtue and rapper Astro (who had remained with the group up til then) to form ''another'' [=UB40=], which following a 2014 court case must be legally referred to as "[=UB40=] featuring Ali Campbell, Astro and Mickey Virtue". So [=UB40=] now refers to the Band Without the Face ''and'' The Face Without (Most of) the Band. |
| 148 | * When Music/LouReed left The Music/VelvetUnderground in 1970, guitarist Doug Yule (whom Reed had brought in to replace Music/JohnCale) kept what was left of the band touring for two years, then recorded the album ''Music/{{Squeeze 1973}}'' with session musicians (including Music/DeepPurple drummer Ian Paice). According to the Website/{{Wikipedia}} [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeeze_(Velvet_Underground_album) article]], ''Squeeze'' "could justifiably be regarded as a Doug Yule solo album in all but name", and the only reason it was issued as a VU album was [[invoked]]ExecutiveMeddling from the group's manager. While the album has [[https://web.archive.org/web/20141218203842/http://bobchaos.com/squeeze/squeeze1.html its defenders]], rock critic David Fricke sums up the general consensus when he describes it as [[FanonDiscontinuity "an embarrassment to the VU discography."]] |
| 149 | * When Music/TheWho lost drummer Keith Moon after 1978's ''Who Are You'', the band replaced him with Kenney Jones. Everything went OK for a while, including a decently-received tour, until 11 fans were killed at a concert in Cincinnati a year later. The band then released two studio albums with Jones, ''Face Dances'' and ''It's Hard''. While the former had a bonafide hit in "You Better You Bet" and a charter in "Another Tricky Day", the latter was panned by just about everyone (though ''Magazine/RollingStone'' infamously awarded it 5/5 stars). Though they've reunited since then (recently without bassist John Entwistle, who died in 2002) many times for tours and even a couple of studio albums which were warmly received, many fans think they've never ''really'' been The Who since Keith passed away. |
| 150 | * The all-girl trio Wild Orchid achieved a modest amount of success with three albums and singles like "Talk to Me" in the late '90s and early '00s. In 2001, Stacy Ferguson (the face of the group at the time) met will.i.am from the Music/BlackEyedPeas, and left Wild Orchid to pursue her goals with the hip-hop group. Wild Orchid continued on as a duo, and their final album, ''Hypnotic'', was only released on the band's website in 2003 and sold a pitiful 5,000 copies. By the end of the year, the group had disbanded. |
| 151 | * A variation: Music/{{X|USBand}}'s first four albums (from ''Los Angeles'' to ''More Fun in the New World'') featured Billy Zoom on guitar and were produced by Ray Manzarek of Music/TheDoors. Afterwards, Zoom left and the band stopped working with Manzarek; fan consensus is that these changes led to an AudienceAlienatingEra for the group, and the two albums they recorded before going on hiatus (''Ain't Love Grand'' and ''See How We Are'') aren't quite as good as what came before, although there are some who appreciate this era of the band. |
| 152 | * Yankee Grey's lead singer quit after their first album due to vocal cord issues. The band's label closed around the same time, so they released one album independently with the keyboardist singing lead vocals instead and were never heard from again. |
| 153 | * In 1979, with [[ContractualObligationProject one more album due]], lead singer Jon Anderson and keyboardist Rick Wakeman confessed to each other that they were absolutely miserable in the band, and left Music/{{Yes}}[[note]]The latter for the second time[[/note]]. The other members, vital parts of the band in their own right over the years, wound up hiring both members of Music/TheBuggles when the latter approached them with a song they'd written, unaware at the time of Anderson and Wakeman's departure. Music/TrevorHorn sang lead on the resulting album, ''Drama'', making it the only Yes album without Anderson's vocals. |
| 154 | * Zilch tried to go on as a performing band after the death of lead guitarist [[Music/HidetoMatsumoto hide]], but eventually finally ended their less-than-successful attempt at this with the death of bassist Paul Raven. |
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| 158 | The band carries on without the face just fine or to greater success, more often than not with a new face. |
| 159 | * Music/{{ACDC}}. Their original singer, [[ThePeteBest Dave Evans]], was fired before the band became famous. Their second singer Bon Scott joined and the band got signed and released albums throughout the '70s. After Scott's death in 1980, the band came back with new singer Brian Johnson and ''Back In Black'', their most successful album and, indeed, the most successful album by any actual band, surpassed in sales only by Music/MichaelJackson's ''Music/{{Thriller}}''. Several of the band's most iconic songs date from this period, which continued to tour and release material to the present day, and for an entire generation of fans Johnson ''was'' the face of the band, as much as Scott ever was (remembering, of course, that this the band includes Angus Young, he of the eternal school uniform). |
| 160 | * Music/AliceInChains reunited and began touring in 2005, three years after lead singer Layne Staley died, and eventually selected William Duvall as his replacement. The band's first album with Duvall, ''Black Gives Way to Blue'', received good critical and fan reception, with most of the fandom that had been against Duvall changing their tune. |
| 161 | * Music/AlterBridge is Music/{{Creed|band}} without Scott Stapp. While not as commercially successful as its predecessor, Alter Bridge has earned significantly more respect from critics and rock fans to the point where some have held up Creed (as compared to Alter Bridge) as a textbook example of how a bad vocalist can drag down the work of good instrumentalists. Myles Kennedy, Alter Bridge's frontman, is now additionally lead vocalist for Slash's solo band, producing an interesting cross-pollination of minus-the-face groups. |
| 162 | * Thrash-metal band Annihilator. Guitarist Jeff Waters has always been the "real" face of the band, the band has gone through FIVE vocalists so far, first was Randy Rampage (though Jeff himself did sing on some of the demos from the debut album), who despite being well-loved among fans left after one album, then Coburn Pharr replaced him and he was considered a competent replacement, he too left and was replaced by Aaron Randall, who most people thought sounded too commercial to fit in with Annihilator. Annihilator split after that, though Jeff Waters released several albums under the Annihilator name despite not featuring any members other then himself (he sang all the songs and performed all the instruments himself) Then the band reunited with Randy Rampage for one album before he quit yet again, he was replaced with Liege Lord singer/guitarist Joe Comeau, who was by a large majority considered to be Annihilator's best vocalist, then he left and was replaced with the band's now current singer Dave Padden, who most fans consider to be Annihilator's weakest vocalist by far as they felt his was too "modern" sounding (though most agree that Dave's singing has improved since he first joined the band). |
| 163 | * Music/{{Anthrax}} went through four different lead singers: first there was Neil Turbin (1982-1984), then there was the very successful Joey Belladonna era (1985-1992). After that, John Bush (1992-2004) took over, and after a reunion tour with Belladonna in 2005, Dan Nelson became the current frontman. Nelson later left and Joey Belladonna reunited with Anthrax, just in time for the Big Four tour and a new album. |
| 164 | * Music/AskingAlexandria became one of the biggest {{Metalcore}} bands in the United States ([[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff despite being British]]) with frontman Danny Worsnop on lead, and was the definite face for many listeners (though guitarist and original founder [[TheManBehindTheMan Ben Bruce]] is a close second). However, overtime Danny became disaffected with metalcore, and (combined with his troubles with [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll drug addiction]]), eventually left the band. He moved to Los Angeles to form the '80s HardRock throwback band We Are Harlot. For most bands, this would've been the end. But they were able to continue with Ukrainian singer Denis Stoff (formally of the short-lived band Make Me Famous), and still remain popular in the mainstream metal scene (albeit not without a massive BrokenBase over which vocalist is better). The fact that they have ''another'' face with guitarist and founder Ben Bruce likely helped them transition from one vocalist to another easier. |
| 165 | * Music/TheBand. In 1965, Music/BobDylan recruited an unknown group called Levon and the Hawks as his backing band for his first electric tour. After his 1966 motorcycle accident the following year led him to withdraw from the public eye for a time, the group changed its name to The Band and went into business for itself, with considerable success. They played this straight with some later reunions minus guitarist Robbie Robertson (depending on whether you view him or LeadDrummer Levon Helm as The Face). In the '80s the four other members did some tours of tiny clubs and theatres but halted after vocalist and keyboardist Richard Manuel was DrivenToSuicide. In the early '90s, the three remaining members reunited again with some success, but the death of Rick Danko (and later Helm) finally put a stop to The Band once and for all. |
| 166 | * Brazilian band Barão Vermelho managed to remain successful after lead singer Cazuza left for a solo career and his songwriting partner, guitarist Roberto Frejat, took over the vocals. Their revival without Frejat, on the other hand, not so much. |
| 167 | * Music/BarenakedLadies had two lead singers in Steven Page and Ed Robertson. Both men have fine voices and strong songwriting skills, but Page really was more "the face" as he did the lead vocals on some the band's earliest hits, like "Enid", "Grade 9", "Be My Yoko Ono", "What a Good Boy", "Jane", "The Old Apartment", etc. Robertson's star-maker was "One Week", which is when he really began to be noticed as equal in esteem to Page. He's now the only lead singer after Page's departure, and opinions on whether or not this has hurt the band vary. The common consensus is that the current line-up is really good, great even, but with Steven's voice and multi-layered lyrics, they were truly something special. |
| 168 | * Tyondai Braxton, the singer and guitarist for math rock group Battles, left the band after the tour for their successful 2007 debut album ''Mirrored''. The band pressed on without replacing him and their sophomore effort, 2011's ''Gloss Drop'' was extremely well received. Instead of replacing him directly, the songs on ''Gloss Drop'' are either instrumental or feature guest vocalists. Their third album ''La Di Da Di'' dropped the guests entirely and is purely instrumental. |
| 169 | * Music/BattleBeast well withstood the departure of its original lead vocalist Nitte Valo due to family issues in 2012, which may have had something to do with the fact that they had to date only released one album with Valo (2011's ''Steel''). She was replaced with Noora Louhimo the same year, who sings in a similar style, and the band has gone on to release three more albums and tour with such names as Music/SonataArctica and Music/{{Sabaton}}. |
| 170 | * Music/{{Bauhaus}}, a notable British {{goth}} band from the late '70s, disbanded in 1983. Singer Peter Murphy went on to a reasonably successful solo career while the three remaining musicians reformed as Music/LoveAndRockets. L&R achieved greater commercial success than Bauhaus over the course of several albums and tours until 1998. In 1998, Peter Murphy and Love & Rockets reformed Bauhaus. In 2008, Bauhaus recorded a new album but imploded after recording it. The band is now back to being splintered between Love & Rockets and Peter Murphy. |
| 171 | * Music/TheBeachBoys carried on after Music/BrianWilson slid into mental illness and drug addiction in the late '60s, and continued to release charting singles and sell out concerts throughout the following decade, and while they continued releasing excellent albums artistically, they never did reach the critical and commercial heights of the mid-'60s. |
| 172 | * After Music/OzzyOsbourne was fired from Music/BlackSabbath due to his increasingly uncontrollable behavior, he was replaced by Music/RonnieJamesDio. Dio's tenure only lasted three years and two albums (plus a third one in 1992 during Tony Martin's period away from the band), but was accepted by fans as an adequate replacement for Osbourne during that time, sang on the group's only commercially significant live album, and toured with a reunited Sabbath under the name Heaven and Hell. While Osbourne remains the most popular and well-known frontman, Sabbath saw enough success with Dio to form a bit of a BrokenBase (although not as big as Ozzy's solo career). |
| 173 | ** The Sabs actually fell victim to this trope multiple times; after Dio left, they went through ''four'' other vocalists (Ian Gillan, Glenn Hughes, Ray Gillen, and Tony Martin - not counting a short-lived reunion with Dio during a two-year period when Martin quit the band) before Ozzy finally returned in 1997. And throughout the band's long history, guitarist Tony Iommi was the [[IAmTheBand only consistent member]]. |
| 174 | * Buffy Lawson, lead singer of the duo Bomshel, left in 2007 over CreativeDifferences between her and backup vocalist/fiddler Kristy Osmunson. Lawson's replacement was Kelley Shepard. At this point, the duo had only released three singles, two of which they [[CanonDiscontinuity quickly disowned]] once Shepard took over. Although the first two singles with Shepard both tanked too, they finally managed to get two Top 40 hits and a full album with Kelley. However, after one more failed single, they broke up in 2013 and Kristy formed another duo called American Young. |
| 175 | * During his long career, Eric Burdon has [[InvertedTrope inverted]] this trope in two different ways. |
| 176 | ** Burdon's first group, Music/TheAnimals, started as one of the pre-eminent BluesRock bands of UsefulNotes/TheBritishInvasion. They'd already become a RevolvingDoorBand with Burdon as [[IAmTheBand the only consistent member]] by 1967 when they re-emerged with an amended name (Eric Burdon and the Animals) and a [[NewSoundAlbum new sound]] (PsychedelicRock). So the Animals became The Band Minus Everyone ''But'' the Face, but despite all the changes they continued to have hits. |
| 177 | ** After the Animals split up again, Burdon went on to lead the {{Funk}} ensemble Eric Burdon and War, which he left after a year and a half. Music/{{War|Band}} continued without him, becoming one of the major acts of The70s in their own right. |
| 178 | * After recording "Eight Miles High," Music/TheByrds lost Gene Clark, their principal songwriter, because he was afraid of flying. Although this began the RevolvingDoorBand that ensued in the next three years, Roger [=McGuinn=] became the new "face" and the group wrote and recorded some of their best material on ''Fifth Dimension'' (which has "Eight Miles High" and "Why," both with Clark) and ''Younger Than Yesterday'' (which doesn't have Clark at all). |
| 179 | * Death metal pack leaders Cannibal Corpse ended up firing their original frontman, Chris Barnes, over attitude issues. What they didn't account for was that Chris Barnes was the most beloved death metal frontman outside of Chuck Schuldiner. Fortunately, the guy they ended up getting, George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher, was not only a vastly superior vocalist, he pretty much converted any skeptics with [[CarefulWithThatAxe his first vocal section on his first album with the band]]. |
| 180 | * Music/{{Caramell}}'s original lineup disbanded in 2002, but following the success of the JustForFun/CaramelldansenVid in 2008, the producers reformed the group as Caramella Girls with all-new vocalists, releasing "Boogie Bam Dance" in 2011 followed by several more new singles. |
| 181 | * Music/{{Chicago}} averted this twice, going on both after Terry Kath's accidental death in 1978 and Peter Cetera's departure in '85. Cetera, however, is the only ex-member who most identify as the band's 'face.' |
| 182 | * The Russian band Chorny Obelisk (Black Obelisk) broke up after the untimely demise of their founder, lyricist, bass guitarist and main vocalist Anatoliy Krupnov in 1997. In 1999, three former members of the band started playing together again, and, after hearing people refer to them as "Black Obelisk", decided to revive the band. The first album they released (with guitarist Dmitriy Borisenkov providing lyrics and main vocals), was dedicated to Krupnov's memory. While Borisenkov has become the new face of the band, and the band itself has regained a lot of its former popularity, they still cite Krupnov as their biggest influence and hold annual concerts in his memory. |
| 183 | * The Commodores had one final big hit, "Nightshift", several years after Music/LionelRichie left. |
| 184 | * Creedence Clearwater Revisited has Stu Cook and Doug Clifford of Music/CreedenceClearwaterRevival. They haven't had the success they enjoyed with John Fogerty, but their new band has lasted much longer. |
| 185 | * After Music/BuddyHolly parted ways with them the Crickets continued to perform for quite a few years without him, with singer-guitarist Sonny Curtis mainly acting as the frontman. They backed up Music/EddieCochran in the recording studio on "Three Steps to Heaven" and did the original version of "I Fought the Law". |
| 186 | * Music/DaYoopers continued nearly 20 years beyond the 1995 departure of frontman Joe Potila, who co-wrote and co-produced everything with drummer Jim [=DeCaire=], played lead guitar, and sang many of the lead vocals. His replacement Jim Bellmore took over in all of those duties, while also expanding the band's sound through his skills on several other instruments (notably, he also played bass on ''We're Still Rockin''', as it was recorded while the band was between bassists). As the band is a NoHitWonder, it's not like they had much success to lose in the first place. |
| 187 | * UsefulNotes/{{Synthwave}} group Dead Astronauts lost their lead producer and vocalist Hayley Stewart when she went solo as Mecha Maiko in 2016, but they have since carried on with Florence Bullock (Glitbiter) in her place. |
| 188 | * Music/DeepPurple went through a ridiculous number of lineup changes - in fact, the changes were so drastic that lineups are often referred to by number instead of by name. The only member to be involved in every incarnation is drummer Ian Paice, and nobody ever remembers the drummer - and while the second lineup remains the most popular, the others have done fairly well for themselves as well. |
| 189 | * The Music/DixieChicks were complete unknowns until after Natalie Maines took over lead vocal duties from Laura Lynch. This trope then got averted again; see "Vacations" below. |
| 190 | * It happened very gradually, but The Music/DropkickMurphys are now better known with replacement vocalist Al Barr than they were with original frontman Mike [=McColgan=]. [=McColgan=], who left The Dropkick Murphys after their first album to become a firefighter, later started Street Dogs, who have been successful in their own right, but aren't as well-known as his first band. Al Barr actually made a guest appearance on the first Street Dogs album ''Savin Hill'', trading verses with Mike [=McColgan=] on "Stand Up". |
| 191 | * Music/DuranDuran became considerably more successful after their original vocalist Stephen "Tintin" Duffy was (ultimately) replaced by Simon Le Bon. |
| 192 | * Ely Buendia, vocalist and main songwriter of Filipino rock band Eraserheads, left the band in 2002 and was quickly replaced by a female vocalist, Kris Gorra-Dancel of Fatal Posporos. The band played for a few months under the Eraserheads name, but when guitarist Marcus Adoro decided to leave the band and new members (Sugarfree's Ebe Dancel and Monsterbot's Diego Mapa) were added, they became known as a totally different band called Cambio -- a supergroup of sorts considering everyone in the lineup came from established bands. |
| 193 | * Three former members of Music/{{Evanescence}} (including co-founder Ben Moody) and a new female lead singer (former ''Series/AmericanIdol'' contestant Carly Smithson) founded We Are the Fallen, a band that sounds not unlike Evanescence. Frontwoman Amy Lee later formed a new Evanescence, making it a case of "The Face Minus the Band". |
| 194 | * Exile went both ways with this. In their original incarnation in The70s, with Jimmy Stokley on lead vocals, they scored only one major hit with "Kiss You All Over". Many failed albums later, J.P. Pennington and Sonny [=LeMaire=] became the frontmen, and the group reinvented itself as a country band which scored ten #1 hits in The80s. Then in 1989, Pennington and several other members quit, leaving [=LeMaire=] and new member Paul Martin to carry only a couple minor hits before their success tapered off entirely. |
| 195 | * The English rock band Music/{{Faces}}. The group (originally known as Music/TheSmallFaces) lost their original lead singer, Steve Marriott, when he left to form Humble Pie. The group renamed itself and then picked up two new members - Ronnie Wood and Music/RodStewart (both of which led the band to drop the "Small" from the name[[labelnote:explanation]]They were called "''Small'' Faces" because all members of the band were short; Wood and Stewart were significantly taller, so they weren't all "Small" Faces anymore[[/labelnote]]). Their subsequent output included four successful studio albums and a series of major hits like "Stay With Me" and "Ooh La La". After the release of their fourth album, though, Ronnie Lane left and Stewart focused far too much on his solo career. Finally, Wood's work (and popularity) with Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}} caused the band to disintegrate. |
| 196 | * In 1970, Music/FleetwoodMac lost its frontmen, guitarist/singers Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer, to CreatorBreakdown - Green quit due to stress and poor health, while Spencer stepped out to "buy a magazine", disappeared, and joined a cult. The group went through several frontmen in the next several years, most notably Bob Welch, before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joined, leading the band to the height of their popularity. The trope eventually caught up with them, though. Buckingham quit in 1987. The group's next release, ''Behind the Mask'', flopped, after which Nicks left the group as well. The band assembled a new line-up which released one album, ''Time'' (which flopped even worse than ''Behind the Mask''), and then dissolved until 1997 when Buckingham and Nicks rejoined. |
| 197 | * Music/{{Flyleaf}} is still doing fairly well, though not as popular, without their original singer. The choice to keep the band name and sing old Flyleaf songs without Lacey Sturm has been... Controversial to say the least. Many fans ditched the band after Lacey left, and Kristen May gets flack for not being Lacey, but it still has fans. Though, the overall image is different now that Lacey isn't around being TheOphelia and the songs sound different because Kristen sings differently than Lacey. |
| 198 | * Music/FunkerVogt's longtime face, Jens Kastel, quit in 2013 following the release of ''Companion in Crime'', being replaced by Sacha Korn on the ill-received single "Sick Man". Luckily, they found a better replacement in the form of Chris L. from Agonoize for their 2017 album ''Code of Conduct''. |
| 199 | * The CreatorCouple behind Future Perfect, Simon Owen and Rebecca Morgan, separated in the fall of 2019 due to the latter's ongoing health problems, with Simon going solo until May 2023, when Rachel Arnison from his prior project Beats Per Minute stepped in as co-vocalist. |
| 200 | * Music/{{Genesis|Band}}...for a while. When Music/PeterGabriel left, the band's unlikely replacement was Music/PhilCollins, the group's drummer. It turned out that not only did Collins have a singing voice similar to Gabriel's, but his sensibilities were also far more mainstream, which meshed well with the similarly pop sensibilities Banks and especially Rutherford always secretly harbored. Under Collins' leadership, Genesis went from cult heroes to one of the biggest-selling bands of The80s. While this was happening, Collins maintained an equally, eventually more successful solo career...so successful that he eventually left as well. This time the replacement, a new member named Ray Wilson (former singer with UK [[OneHitWonder One Hit Wonders]] Stiltskin), only lasted one album. |
| 201 | * The original lead guitarist, bassist, and second drummer of Music/GunsNRoses (i.e., the entire band except for Axl Rose... and Izzy Stradlin) eventually regrouped under the name Velvet Revolver (with Scott Weiland, the vocalist of Music/StoneTemplePilots and another guitarist, Dave Kushner, old-time friend of Slash and who played with Duff in the band Loaded), and while they didn't reach the heights of the earlier band in their heyday, they released several well-regarded albums and hits. |
| 202 | * Happened twice in the history of Music/JeffersonAirplane: |
| 203 | ** After Marty Balin and Jorna Kaukonen left, the band added John Barbata, Craig Chaquico, Papa John Creach and David Freiberg and became Music/JeffersonStarship. |
| 204 | ** When Paul Kantner left, leaving the band with none of the original Airplane founders, the rest of the band hired Mickey Thomas and continued simply as Music/{{Starship}}. With Thomas as lead singer, the band went a more mainstream pop-ish direction, gaining three major hits with "We Built This City", "Sara," and "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now." By 1990, Thomas was the only one left, as the rest of the Jefferson members felt going pop was the wrong direction for them creatively. The others found their way to Jefferson revivals, and Grace Slick retired from music altogether. |
| 205 | * Music/{{Journey|Band}}. Steve Perry had to step away from the band when he developed a degenerative bone disease and couldn't join a planned reunion tour, and they went through several lead singers to try and replace him. They eventually settled on Arnel Pineda, who did much for Journey financially. With Pineda at the helm, Journey had one of the most successful tours of 2008, and the first album with him as lead vocalist, ''Revelation'', was certified platinum. Also, it seems that he has brought appeal to a generation two decades younger than Journey's initial fanbase and in territories outside their normal North American base. (Pineda is Filipino and the band's popularity has skyrocketed in the Asian area). It probably helps that Pineda's voice is practically indistinguishable from Perry's. |
| 206 | * After Ian Curtis' suicide, the remaining members of Music/JoyDivision changed the group name to Music/NewOrder and added the drummer's girlfriend on keyboards, and became more successful than ever. |
| 207 | * When Music/{{Kamelot}}'s founding vocalist [[DreadfulMusician Mark Vanderbilt]] quit in 1998, they hired the almost completely unknown (for anywhere that isn't Norway) opera-style vocalist Roy Khan, but instead of being minus the face, this actually marked the origins of their [[GrowingTheBeard beard growth]] in the early 2000s. |
| 208 | * When Jonas "B" Bergqvist, co-founder, guitarist, lyricist and additional vocalist of Music/{{Lifelover}}, passed away due to an accidental prescription drug overdose, the remaining members put the band to rest and went to form Kall, which was less Lifelover-like, although they still kept some of its original themes and even had some fans from the old band. |
| 209 | * Lydia is most associated with female vocals done by Maria Sais De Sicilia (the debut album) or Mindy White (the second and third albums). In 2010, the band temporarily broke up after Mindy left, but they got back together in 2011 with Leighton Antelman on vocals. They've since released several albums and have released ''more'' albums then when Maria and Mindy were in the band. |
| 210 | * Music/HueyLewisAndTheNews got their start this way. Initially, they went by the name Clover, and their first recording was as the backing band on Music/ElvisCostello's ''Music/MyAimIsTrue''. They changed their name after parting ways with Mr. Costello, and went on to be one of the big hitmakers of the '80s. |
| 211 | * Malice Mizer. The loss of their first vocalist, Tetsu, not only didn't end the band, but his replacement by Music/{{Gackt}} drastically increased the band's popularity. The loss of Gackt on the other hand... |
| 212 | * Music/ManfredMann changed labels in 1966, and this coincided with Mike d'Abo replacing Paul Jones. The band actually had a lot of success with d'Abo, with their version of Bob Dylan's "The Mighty Quinn" a big hit in 1968, though not quite as much as they did with Jones. |
| 213 | * British neo-progressive rock band Music/{{Marillion}} enjoyed success during the 1980s (including mainstream hit "Kayleigh") with original frontman Fish (Derek William Dick). When Fish left in 1988, he was replaced by Steve Hogarth. Though they've never enjoyed the same mainstream prominence as they did in the mid-80s, and lost their major record deal in the 1990s, they retain an extremely dedicated core following, many of whom place as much- if not more- importance on the Hogarth era, and even managed to hit the UK top 10 again in 2004. |
| 214 | * Shortly after "The Game of Love" came out in 1965, Wayne Fontana began a solo career that went virtually nowhere. But his backing band, the Mindbenders, continued for three more years, scoring, in that time frame, another hit with "A Groovy Kind of Love," sung by guitarist Eric Stewart. |
| 215 | ** Stewart wound up on the other side of this trope when he left Music/TenCc, leaving Graham Gouldman the sole founding member. |
| 216 | * The Miracles are an interesting case. Smokey Robinson decided to leave in 1969, putting the group in limbo. The next year, without any new recordings to release, Creator/{{Motown}}'s UK branch decided to take a 1967 album track called "Tears of a Clown" and issue it as a single. It became their all-time biggest hit, prompting Robinson to rejoin The Miracles for a couple more years before a final farewell album and tour. After that, they regrouped (again without Robinson) and managed to score some more hits, including a #1 ("Love Machine" in 1976). |
| 217 | * Goth rock band Mono Inc's original frontman, Miky Mono, [[ArtifactTitle whom the band was named after]], left in 2006 during the production of their second album, whereupon drummer Martin Engler [[StepUpToTheMicrophone stepped up to the microphone]], and newcomer [[TheSmurfettePrinciple Katha Mia]] took up drums. To date, they're still going strong. As for Mono himself, he died in a paragliding accident in 2010. |
| 218 | * Music/TheMoodyBlues were originally a well-respected but only moderately successful white R&B band. After lead singer Denny Laine left (along with bassist Clint Warwick), the band brought in Justin Hayward and John Lodge, switched its focus to symphonic rock and became massively popular. |
| 219 | * Mother Love Bone became popular ''after'' their singer's death in 1990. After Andrew Wood's heroin overdose, they found their unlikely replacement in a surfer from San Diego named Eddie Vedder and changed their sound from a glam punk-ish style of {{Grunge}} to more of a more classic hard rock sound. They went on to become Music/PearlJam, one of the most successful bands of the '90s. |
| 220 | * The New Cars was a touring group in the mid-2000s consisting of the original guitarist and keyboardist of Music/TheCars, fronted by Music/ToddRundgren, accompanied by the bassist from Rundgren's solo band and the founding drummer of Music/{{Journey|Band}}. A few years later, original singer Ric Ocasek rejoined the band and they released a new album. |
| 221 | * Music/{{Nightwish|Band}} managed to stay in business after the female lead Tarja Turunen got fired. Their first album with their new singer Annette Olzon was their most successful to date. Annette later left the band, and she was replaced by [[Music/AfterForever Floor Jansen]]. Their subsequent album, ''Endless Forms Most Beautiful'', received very positive reviews. |
| 222 | * After the Gangsta Rap pioneering group Music/{{NWA}} released their influential debut album they lost Ice Cube, the group's third rapper and (most importantly) another member's ghostwriter. Despite this, they released a successful EP and a great LP after his departure even though they were one member short. Ice Cube's departure actually worked in everyone's favour because Ice Cube met huge success as a solo artist, N.W.A. had something else to be angry about and producer Dr. Dre was forced to become a rapper which is probably the reason that the Dr. was able to have a highly successful and influential solo career. |
| 223 | * Music/LaOrejaDeVanGogh: Many people thought the band's time was up when lead singer Amaia Montero departed the group in 2007 to pursue a solo career. They have been proved wrong: as of 2016, the band is still running fine with ''[[Series/TheXFactor Factor X]]'' alumnus Leire Martínez as their new lead vocalist, while Montero enjoys moderate success as a solo act. |
| 224 | * Music/{{Pantera}} benefited from this trope. The band started out playing HairMetal with Terry Glaze as lead singer. As their style evolved into a DarkerAndEdgier GrooveMetal sound, Glaze became dissatisfied; he left and was replaced by Phil Anselmo. The new Pantera became much more successful than they'd ever been, with their early albums regarded as EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. |
| 225 | * In 1985, ChristianRock band Petra lost its lead singer Greg X. Volz and recruited John Schlitt (formerly of non-Christian band Head East) to take his place. The two sounded nothing alike: Volz has been compared to Music/{{Kansas}} frontman Steve Walsh, while Schlitt sounds like... well, pretty much every HairMetal vocalist ever. Perhaps noticing this, the band (under the guidance of new producers) shifted to a heavier sound that fit Schlitt's vocal range quite well and released some of their most well-known songs during this period. Ironically, their new producers were... John Elefante of Kansas fame and his brother! |
| 226 | * Music/PinkFloyd averted this trope twice. |
| 227 | ** Following the departure of frontman Music/SydBarrett at the beginning of 1968, the group appeared to play this trope straight for a while as they continued to perform Barrett's songs live, with David Gilmour often filling in for Barrett's vocals. Many fans agree that ''Music/{{More}}'', ''Music/{{Ummagumma}}'', and the songs on ''Music/ASaucerfulOfSecrets'' that don't feature Barrett to be of lesser quality, due to his absence leaving the group directionless. However, Music/RogerWaters was eventually able to rise to become the new leader of the group, and by the release of ''Music/AtomHeartMother'' it was clear that Pink Floyd could thrive without Barrett's leadership. |
| 228 | ** When Roger Waters left the band in 1985, he infamously attempted to invoke this trope when he declared that Pink Floyd disbanded, and then tried to sue them when they quite rightly said: "No, we're not finished yet". The first two albums released after Waters's departure, ''Music/AMomentaryLapseOfReason'' and ''Music/TheDivisionBell'', both sold remarkably well and are considered some of the group's best efforts. |
| 229 | * Music/RageAgainstTheMachine became Music/{{Audioslave}} when Zack de la Rocha quit and was replaced by Music/ChrisCornell. And then Chris wanted to go solo again so was replaced by... Zack. Both incarnations of the band have done quite well, mostly because they sound ''completely'' different. |
| 230 | * The band Music/{{Rainbow}}, which Music/RonnieJamesDio was a founding member of, attained its greatest commercial success after he quit the group and it underwent numerous other personnel changes. |
| 231 | * After Music/RedHotChiliPeppers' guitarist, Hillel Slovak, died in 1988, the band went through a lot of effort to replace him. The eventual replacement, John Frusciante, helped turn the band into mainstream success and is currently regarded as one of the best guitarists of all time. When Frusciante left, the band held on well with Josh Klinghoffer for 12 years until Frusciante returned. |
| 232 | * Progressive jazz/rock band Music/TheReignOfKindo was formed by four out of five members of indie band This Day & Age, after the latter's vocalist left. As of 2013, Kindo has outdone their former band by one album after releasing their third and shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon. |
| 233 | * Folk-classical fusion band Music/{{Renaissance}}. This ancestry is often ignored because, after releasing two albums and touring, the band stalled and then gradually underwent a complete change of lineup. The new band started afresh, abandoned the old songs and folk influences, and became a straight classical fusion band, often using orchestral backing. And suffice to say, while original lead vocalist Jane Relf had a fine voice, her replacement, Annie Haslam, was even better, and the new group went from strength to strength. |
| 234 | ** When the original line-up reunited to record new material in the mid 1970s (minus the late founder member Keith Relf, alas), they had to do so under a new name (Illusion, taken from the title of their second album), because Renaissance Mk. II were still a quite successful going concern. |
| 235 | * Reset's lead singer Pierre Bouvier quit in 1999, but founding member Philippe Jolicoeur took over and the band has grown and continued with him. The previous singer is better known for fronting Music/SimplePlan. |
| 236 | * Music/RestlessHeart is one of the few bands to zig-zag this trope. Original lead singer Verlon Thompson quit before the first single and was replaced by Larry Stewart. After Larry parted for a solo career in 1991, the next album featured drummer John Dittrich, keyboardist Dave Innis, and bassist Paul Gregg alternating as lead singers. That album produced their biggest crossover hits in "When She Cries" and "Tell Me What You Dream", both sung by Dittrich, but their momentum dropped off completely after that. Innis quit before the next album, leaving just Dittrich, Gregg, and guitarist Greg Jennings (who did not sing) to carry one album on their own with several studio musicians. Finally, the band broke up in 1993. Everyone but Innis reunited briefly in 1998 to cut two tracks for a GreatestHitsAlbum, then all five members reunited for good in the early 2000s. |
| 237 | * Music/{{Sepultura}} was essentially just the Cavalera brothers, Max and Igor, with some other musicians. Even though both brothers have left the band (in 1996 and 2006 respectively), Sepultura is still touring and making music and are led by guitarist Andreas Kisser and the band's lone remaining original member, bassist Paulo Junior. The Cavalera brothers later reunited to form the Sepultura-esque Cavalera Conspiracy, essentially The Face(s) Minus The Band. |
| 238 | * After the release of ''Elysion'', Music/SoundHorizon's lead vocalist Aramary left the band for unspecified personal reasons. However, while this resulted in a [[NewSoundAlbum significant change in musical style]] ([[EpicRocking longer songs]]; more {{Song Style Shift}}s; the use of more and varied vocalists; [[IAmTheBand Revo]] making his presence more apparent in the songs and on stage; etc.), the band actually became ''more'' successful than in their "first era". |
| 239 | * German band Spliff got hit managed to avert this trope ''twice'': Formerly the Music/NinaHagen band, the remaining members formed Spliff after Hagen left to pursue a solo career. After working with another lead singer who lasted only one album, the rest of the band [[VocalTagTeam all took on vocal duties]], released some of their biggest hits and arguably became even more successful than Hagen herself. |
| 240 | ** Also [[InvertedTrope inverted]]: Before they became Nina Hagen's backing band, they were known as Lokomotive Kreuzberg. |
| 241 | * British three-piece girl group Music/{{Sugababes}} have had members replaced THREE times - in fact, none of the original members are even left in the group now. But they've continued on with success - their most successful lineup was their second with Heidi Range, Keisha Buchanan, and Mutya Buena. Heidi replaced Siobhan Donaghy. In 2005, Mutya left the group and was replaced with Amelle Berrabah. In 2009, the only original founding member of the band, Keisha, was kicked out by the record label and replaced with Jade Ewen. This is the fourth lineup of the Sugababes, and their most recent album ''Sweet 7'' is their second poorest selling. But the second and third lineups were hugely successful. And it gets even more complicated now that the original Sugababes reformed as Music/MutyaKeishaSiobhan... |
| 242 | * Zigzagged with Survivor: Dave Bickler was the lead singer on their biggest hit, "Eye of the Tiger", but that was the only top ten hit for the band during Bickler's tenure. They had four top ten singles with Bickler's replacement, Jimi Jamison, but none of which are nearly as famous as "Eye of the Tiger." |
| 243 | * After parting ways with lead singer David Ruffin in 1968, The Temptations kept on racking up hits well into the 70s while Ruffin's solo career floundered (his brother Jimmy had a slightly bigger career). That said, The Temptations were established R&B stars before he joined the group, and remained so afterwards. |
| 244 | * Fans were skeptical after Theater Of Tragedy decided to continue on after Liv Kristine left, but replacement vocalist Nell Sigland is considered by most people to be a worthy successor. |
| 245 | * The Irish group Them is best remembered for Music/VanMorrison's 1964-66 stint as lead singer. However, after Morrison left for a successful solo career, various versions of Them continued recording and touring until 1971, with a reunion in 1979. While Them never regained their Morrison-era level of popularity, some fans hold their work without him in high regard. |
| 246 | * Music/ThreeDaysGrace was one of the biggest rock bands out there with Adam Gontier on vocals. He then left for unexplained reasons and formed Saint Asonia. The band continued with Matt Walst of My Darkest Days. Though highly controversial to say the least, and they aren't as successful as they were before, they've managed to remain a big name in the rock scene despite losing their most prominent member. The new Three Days Grace have had no problems scoring hit-after-hit on rock radio, just like they did before. Although Saint Asonia also scored some rock hits, they weren't as big as the Three Days Grace hits; many old fans do, however, prefer Saint Asonia to the Walst-fronted Three Days Grace. This all changed with the release of ''Outsider'', widely considered one of their best albums with 3 #1 singles. |
| 247 | * Tristania lost both their lead and death vocalist Morten Veland and their backing female operatic vocalist Vibeke Stene and they ''still'' survived, even if many fans consider their original two albums better. |
| 248 | * When Jack Grisham, the original singer of punk band Music/{{TSOL}}, became disillusioned and left the band, they recruited new vocalist Joe Wood and continued without him. Eventually, as with Renaissance, the entire membership was replaced. This made things interesting when Grisham formed a new version of TSOL, since the other one was still around -- and Wood[[note]]along with another band member, Mitch Dean[[/note]] owned the rights to the name. There were times when Grisham's group, using the SdrawkcabName LOST, played in the same city on the same night as Wood's group! However, in 1999 Grisham successfully sued for the right to the TSOL name, which he has used ever since. |
| 249 | * When original singer and cofounder John Foxx left Music/{{Ultravox}}, critics predicted great success for him as a solo artist and doom for the rest of the band. However, once Music/MidgeUre replaced him, the band enjoyed its greatest success ever, while Foxx's career never got anywhere near the heights imagined for it. |
| 250 | * Music/VanHalen achieved its greatest commercial success ''after'' Music/DavidLeeRoth quit the band and was replaced by Sammy Hagar, though the change has always caused great division among fans, with many Roth purists disdainfully referring to the latter group as "Van Hagar". After Hagar quit, they tried it again with Gary Cherone (which didn't take at ''[[AudienceAlienatingEra all]]''). In their two reunion tours since then, they've toured once with Hagar and once with Roth, who was with the band until its breakup when its other face, Eddie Van Halen, died in 2020. |
| 251 | * Averted with Music/WallOfVoodoo, at least in Australia. [=WoV=] has had two lead singers, Stan Ridgway and Andy Prieboy. In the LandDownUnder, "Far Side of Crazy" (which Prieboy sang lead on) outsold "Mexican Radio" (the band's biggest hit with Ridgway), and the new lineup is seen much more favorably. |
| 252 | * Back in the '20s, there was this jazz band called The Washingtonians, and their leader was the banjoist Elmer Snowden. In early 1924, the rest of the band accused Snowden of keeping too much of the band's earnings for himself, and they fired him. Their piano player ''Music/DukeEllington'' took the reins of the band--and turned them into one of the greatest bands in jazz history. |
| 253 | * Music/{{Wilco}} was originally seen as Music/UncleTupelo minus singer/lead guitarist Jay Farrar (who left to form Music/SonVolt), but this was gradually averted as the band formed their own musical identity and most of the founding members (except for leader Jeff Tweedy and bassist John Stirratt) either left the band or were fired. |
| 254 | * Music/TheWurzels lost their founder, lead singer and principal songwriter Adge Cutler when he died in a car crash in 1974. Although devastated, the three surviving members decided to carry on -- with a [[GenreShift shift towards doing parodies of pre-existing songs]] to make up for the lack of new material, and banjo/guitar player Pete Budd [[StepUpToTheMicrophone taking on the singing duties]]. Within two years, the band -- whose following had hitherto been largely restricted to their native Somerset -- were experiencing mainstream success with ''two'' top ten hits. |
| 255 | * Music/TheYardbirds wound down in 1968, with falling sales and band members jumping ship to pursue new projects, leaving relative newcomer Jimmy Page as the sole member. He recruited a new band of unknowns and carried on under the Yardbirds name (reusing the old songs when needed). Following questions over ownership of the name, they switched to calling themselves "The New Yardbirds". Then [[Music/TheWho Keith Moon and John Entwistle]] made their historic remark about them going down "like a lead balloon" and... [[Music/LedZeppelin you know the rest]]. ''Another'' new version of the Yardbirds have also been active since The90s. Following Chris Dreja's departure due to a series of strokes in 2013, Jim [=McCarty=] has been the group's [[RevolvingDoorBand only consistent member]]. |
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| 259 | The band, sometimes under a different name, partakes in side projects minus the face, while the latter is still an active member. |
| 260 | * In 1980, the Attractions (Music/ElvisCostello's then-band) released ''Mad About the Wrong Boy'', an LP on which they wrote and sang their own songs. Attractions keyboardist Steve Nieve has also done several albums on his own. |
| 261 | * At least three vocalists in 1959-60 (Creator/SammyDavisJr, Music/NatKingCole and Music/SarahVaughan) recorded with what was effectively the Count Basie Orchestra, except without Count Basie himself, who was under exclusive contract to Roulette Records. All three of their albums took the then-unusual step for "pop vocalist" albums of crediting the musicians in the liner notes so that those in the know would see they were indeed Basie's men. While Davis' album (''I Gotta Right to Swing!'') was otherwise mum about the band, Cole's album (''Welcome to the Club'') included a sly reference to "a band you can [[StealthPun count]] on" and Vaughan's album was outright cheeky about it, being titled ''No Count Sarah'' and mentioning "the no-William-Basie-band". |
| 262 | * Sisters Martie Maguire and Emily Robison of the Music/DixieChicks recorded one album as the Court Yard Hounds because lead singer Natalie Maines didn't feel like recording another Dixie Chicks album. |
| 263 | * Crazy Horse recorded several "solo" albums both during and after its tenure with Music/NeilYoung. |
| 264 | * D12: |
| 265 | ** ''Devil's Night Mixtape'', at first, didn't feature their iconic member Music/{{Eminem}} due to scheduling issues (though he'd wanted to be on it). Due to a negative reaction from D12 fans, a couple of hours after release, the band updated the tracklist to add a two-minute intro of Eminem freestyling, clearly recorded by him in a hurry... not least that it's completely a capella. |
| 266 | ** Music/{{Eminem}} also took breaks from the group while he was filming ''Film/EightMile'', leaving them to tour their material without their most beloved member. |
| 267 | ** D12 feature on Music/{{Gorillaz}}'s "911" without Eminem, after [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the 9/11 attacks]] left the rest of the group stranded in UsefulNotes/{{London}} with Damon Albarn. After meeting, they decided to get together for a project, with Albarn rapping as replacement for the more notorious TokenWhite. |
| 268 | * The title track of Music/TinaTurner's ''Private Dancer'' features all the members of Music/DireStraits except bandleader/guitarist Mark Knopfler - ''and he wrote the song''! The band had originally recorded the song in 1982, but Mark decided it needed a female voice and gave it to Tina. Then, due to ExecutiveMeddling from their record company declaring Mark could not appear on it, they had to re-record the song with Music/JeffBeck on guitar in place of Mark, who was not happy with the end result. |
| 269 | * Music/TomPetty's backing band, The Heartbreakers, released a {{retraux}} SurfRock album, ''Surf-N-Burn'', under the alias The Blue Stingrays. |
| 270 | * Music/{{Pantera}}'s Dimebag, Rex Brown and Vinnie Paul collaborated with country singer Music/DavidAllanCoe on an album called ''Rebel Meets Rebel''. Pantera vocalist Phil Anselmo was supposed to appear on the duet song "Rebel Meets Rebel", but the secondary vocalist was switched to Dimebag. |
| 271 | * Graham Parker's band, The Rumour, released three albums without Parker. |
| 272 | * Secret Chiefs 3 gradually turned from this variety of band minus the face project to IAmTheBand: Their first two albums were essentially Music/MrBungle being led by guitarist Trey Spruance rather than Music/MikePatton, and their very first official release was a BSide to a promo-only Mr. Bungle single for "Platypus" ("The Legendary Paper Project", credited to The Secret Chiefs Trio) . Once Mr. Bungle broke up, they were largely Spruance and a rotating cast of collaborators (albeit with former Mr. Bungle members sometimes among them). Long after they stopped being considered a Mr. Bungle side project, Patton made a one-time guest appearance with [=SC3=] for a single A-Side, namely a CoverVersion of Jacque Brel's "La Chanson de Jacky". |
| 273 | * An unusual example is The Shadows. They were formed as a backing group for Music/CliffRichard, but took to releasing their own records as well, and, as if to emphasise this trope, the majority of their records were instrumentals. But they kept their association with Richard all the while and continued to work with him as well. It's hard to say if they were taking regular vacations or if they had become a successful band in their own right who often collaborated with their old frontman -- of their 69 charting records, 34 were with Cliff and 35 without. |
| 274 | * Music/{{SS501}} (as [=SS501=] Special Project Group) promoted with 3 members in 2008 while Kim Hyun-joong was busy filming ''Series/BoysBeforeFlowers''. Park Jung-min was also participating in the musical ''Theatre/{{Grease}}''. The project group later became official in their own right in 2016 as Double S 301. |
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| 277 | [[folder:Parodies]] |
| 278 | * On AprilFoolsDay 2008, Music/BraveSaintSaturn announced that lead singer and guitarist Reese Roper was leaving the band and that bassist Keith Hoerig would take his place. It was, of course, a joke -- made funnier by the fact that Reese had started the band in the first place so he could record some songs that wouldn't fit the style of [[Music/FiveIronFrenzy that other band he was in]]. |
| 279 | * Project 86's music video for "The Spy Hunter" ends with the rest of the band knocking singer Andrew Schwab unconscious, tying him up, and leaving him to get shot by a cannon. This is continued in the video for "My Will Be a Dead Man", where Schwab tracks down the rest of the band and finds that they've replaced him (with the lead singer from He Is Legend, no less). |
| 280 | * Parodied in the Music/{{Rammstein}} MusicVideo for "Haifisch", which has the other band members discussing a replacement to the lead singer Till Lindemann....at the poor guy's (fictional) ''funeral''. Music/{{Metallica}}'s James Hetfield seemed a popular choice. |
| 281 | * Creator/PeterKay devised singing duo Park Avenue as an example of the sort of enthusiastic-but-barely-talented act you see in Northern clubs of the ''Series/PhoenixNights'' variety. Unfortunately, the egotistic Marc Park leaves the act just after they win the Grand Final of the "Stars In Their Eyes" talent competition to carry on solo. Ms. Avenue falls pregnant and is subsequently shunned by Marc Park. The series returns to this plot in the final episode, following Marc as he attempts to ride on the coattails of his (minor) success in a quest to release the year's Christmas number one. In an ironic turn of fate, Marc fails miserably and ends up returning to his pre-celebrity role as a greengrocer whilst his former partner becomes known widely after showing her singing talent on national television, and starring in a documentary where she allows the producers to paint Parc as the villain. |
| 282 | ** There is also Michelle Coffee, part of a double act 'Coffee and Cream'. Her more charismatic singing partner, revealed to be having an affair with her husband, leaves her to compete alone. Unfortunately the only songs she has rehearsed are duets such as "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" which leads to some painful scenes as she sings them all on her lonesome. |
| 283 | * ''Website/TheHardTimes'' article "[[https://thehardtimes.net/lists/rules-for-replacing-a-lead-singer/ Rules for Replacing a Lead Singer]]" instructs band members on how to deal with the situation as gracefully as possible... sort of. For example: "Pack up all their stuff in the practice space beforehand--And be thorough. You don’t want them wandering back to your next rehearsal claiming they forgot their Music/{{Nirvana}} poster." |
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| 285 | |
| 286 | [[folder:In-Universe Examples]] |
| 287 | * ''VideoGame/ANNOMutationem'': At Skopp City, Ann encounters a group band who asks her for locating their lead guitarist after he left on his own accord so they could find a way to convince him to rejoin. However, a visit to Noctis City shows that he had already left to parts unknown after leaving his personal ROM behind. |
| 288 | * ''Series/{{Castle|2009}}'': |
| 289 | ** In "Famous Last Words", [[VictimOfTheWeek Hayley Blue's]] band, Blue Pill, was reduced to performing sweet sixteen parties once she went off on her own. Not only was Hayley their most talented and famous member, but she also owned the trademark for the band's name and wouldn't let the others use it. |
| 290 | ** James Swan, the VictimOfTheWeek in "[[Recap/CastleS5E7SwanSong Swan Song]]", is the lead guitarist of a band called Holy Shemp and the focus of most of the positive reviews about their music. A man making a documentary about the band expresses belief that without Swan, the others are yesterday's news and that no one will care about his documentary unless he gets some good footage about the hunt for Swan's killer. When it looks like Swan was planning to launch a solo career, Castle suggests that the others killed Swan due to fear that he'd steal away all of their fans and reduce them to obscure footnotes in his career. Ultimately, things end on an optimistic note for the band, [[spoiler:minus the bassist, who is arrested for Swan's murder. They hire replacements for their lost members, including Swan's childhood friend (who taught him to play the guitar so well in the first place), suggesting he'll be able to replicate Swan's popularity.]] |
| 291 | * ''Fanfic/CodexEquus:'' A few examples from the [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales Second Age]]. |
| 292 | ** Moon Ray Vaughoof was the guitarist/singer of his band [[Music/StevieRayVaughan Double Trouble]], and thus was its driving force. Unfortunately, his sudden death in a fatal helicopter accident left an absence that couldn't be filled. This didn't really become a problem, though, as he would be inducted into the [[DontFearTheReaper Trimortidae]], and he would eventually reunite with his surviving bandmates in the Heaven-Realms. |
| 293 | ** The [[Music/JeffHealey Healing String Groove Band]] is an inversion. It was once a blues RockTrio consisting of Healing Song (vocals/guitars), Tempo Groove (drums), and Steel String (bass). Healing Song later moved on to jazz and teaching aspiring musicians, but he and his bandmates stayed good friends and continued touring for many years. Then Healing Song became terminally ill with cancer in his middle-age years, which he [[FaceDeathWithDignity gracefully accepted]] with some help. He [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Ascended to godhood]] on his deathbed instead of dying as he expected to, granting him divine power and immortality at the cost of [[WhoWantsToLiveForever outliving almost everyone he knew]], eventually leaving him the SoleSurvivor of his band once Steel String and Tempo Groove died from old age. |
| 294 | * ''Film/GlobalHeresy:'' The eponymous band is suffering from emotional turmoil and an increasingly weak position with their record company since their famous lead singer, Ben Gould, disappeared from his boat and is assumed to be dead. [[spoiler:Ben is faking his death as a publicity stunt, but by the time he returns, the others feel that they no longer need him.]] |
| 295 | * ''Series/{{Sliders}}'': Rembrandt "Crying Man" Brown was once the front man of the moderately-successful R&B group The Spinning Topps. When he split from the group, Remmy had a gold album, but his career quickly faded into obscurity. Meanwhile, The Spinning Topps went on to have multiple gold albums and far greater fame than with Remmy at the helm. |
| 296 | * In ''Film/ThisIsSpinalTap'', the other members of the band try to carry on as "Spinal Tap Mark II", a jazz-blues improvisational band, after Nigel leaves during the tour. |
| 297 | * In ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw,'' [[OnlySaneMan Zack]] used to be the face of a lumberjack-themed boy band called the Lumberzacks. The band went on without him when he moved to Danville, with one member, Max, taking over and renaming it the Lumbermaxes. All of the other members then changed their names to "Max," which [[YouNeverDidThatForMe annoys Zack a bit]]. |
| 298 | * ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' has a non-music example: the kids pretend to be superheroes, and Cartman, whose identity was "the Coon," dubs their team "Coon and Friends" with himself as leader. Eventually, the others get tired of his crap and kick him out, but ''still'' use the name. |
| 299 | -->'''Stan:''' Mysterion, if Cartman's gone, why are we still calling ourselves "Coon and Friends?" |
| 300 | -->'''[[TheCowl Mysterion]]:''' Because it pisses Cartman off beyond belief, and I find that [[NotSoAboveItAll (chuckles)]] ''extremely'' funny. |
| 301 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "[[Recap/StevenUniverseS1E22StevenAndTheStevens Steven and the Stevens]]", [[CheerfulChild Steven]] uses TimeTravel to collect [[MesACrowd four of himself]], then starts a band called [[PlanetOfSteves Steven and the Stevens]]. However, eventually, Steven-1 becomes such a tyrant that the others kick him out, resulting in Steven and the Stevens...without Steven? |
| 302 | * ''Series/OddSquad'': In "Soundcheck", Danny T., the leader of the eponymous band, decides to quit the band after refusing to change the lyrics of the song "Take Away Four" so it becomes "Gonna Add One" instead. It's explicitly stated from Johnny J.'s comment of "not again!" that this isn't the first time this has happened, but luckily for them, Otto is an apt and very willing substitute for Danny, becoming an Ascended Fanboy and recording the new song with them as well as helping them film a music video for it. |
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