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| 7 | ->'''Tycho''': So, at the end of ''VideoGame/{{Dragon Age|Origins}}'', I pissed off Alistair somehow and he left. In my '''Warden Commander''' armor from the DLC.\ |
| 8 | '''Gabe''': Wasn't that like, seven dollars?\ |
| 9 | '''Tycho''': I know! He fucking robbed me! As I watched him walk away, all I could think was "Please, Alistair. Leave the armor." |
| 10 | -->-- ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'', [[http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/12/02 December 2, 2009]] |
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| 12 | In VideoGames, this is the annoying effect of having potentially great equipment stolen from you because the character wearing them [[GuestStarPartyMember has left the party]]. If they come back, their equipment may have fallen victim to the SortingAlgorithmOfWeaponEffectiveness. Or they may have found new, better equipment and ditched what they had before. Or they get themselves killed. Either way, you better hope they didn't have anything powerful and [[PermanentlyMissableContent irreplaceable]] on them. Or, [[TemporaryPartyMemberToVillain if you have to fight them later in the story]], that the equipment that you gave them isn't ''that'' overpowered. [[AntiFrustrationFeatures Kinder games will dump the gear back into your inventory.]] |
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| 14 | Especially a risk with {{Guest Star Party Member}}s who then leave for good. Some games avert this particular risk by giving said characters their own non-changeable equipment, but this leads to its own problem: [[InterfaceSpoiler spoiling the fact that they're not a permanent party member]]. A common tactic on a second playthrough, NewGamePlus, or just after you've looked through a StrategyGuide, is to remove all the neat swag of a GuestStarPartyMember just before they leave the party/are KilledOffForReal. However, many games have an annoying habit of having the theft occur after a difficult BossBattle but prior to being allowed to open your inventory, so stripping the RequiredPartyMember puts you at a disadvantage in the fight. May induce {{Narm}} if they leave in a climactic cutscene and end up fighting in their underwear and with bare hands. |
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| 16 | Some Meta-Humor is often used here; if you, as the player, know the character is leaving, you'll unequip everything from them. Since "you", the character, couldn't possibly know the character is leaving, some people will comment that the reason they left is because you took all their stuff. |
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| 18 | Named after Literature/SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish, which has no instances of this trope. |
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| 20 | !!Examples: |
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| 22 | [[foldercontrol]] |
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| 24 | [[folder:Action Adventure]] |
| 25 | * ''VideoGame/BeyondGoodAndEvil'' has PA-1's, {{heart container}}s you can swap between yourself and your partners. [[spoiler:When Pey'j is kidnapped]], he takes all of his PA-1's with him, though he has a chance of dropping one... and only one. The rest vanish into the ether, leaving you vulnerable and short in the LifeMeter department. You'll get it back only near the end of the game, and might as well hoard them for yourself since they won't be around for too long. |
| 26 | * ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2'': A downplayed version occurs when [[spoiler:going from the ending of the main story as Arthur to the Epilogue as John. All of Arthur's stats, weapons, clothing, equipment, and some satchel items (including valuables and documents) do transfer to John. However, Arthur's money, tonics, ingredients, provisions, materials, and horses, even those at the stable, do not]]. |
| 27 | * It's hard to tell where exactly to categorize the LicensedGame of ''Film/RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'' on the original 8-bit Nintendo Entertainment System, but it ''is'' possible to severely screw yourself over in the course of the game. Duncan, Robin's loyal blind retainer, leaves with Maid Marian in an in-game cutscene... and will take everything he had with him at the time, including potions, health items, or all your spare armor and weapons. Up to and including a vital PlotCoupon that you may have forgotten about until the penultimate fight in the game. If this happened to you, it was a one way ticket to UnintentionallyUnwinnable. You have a very small window of time to make him drop everything he was carrying and, hopefully, pick it all up, passing it on to a bizarre glitched character in the status menu and giving you one chance to recover your important items. |
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| 30 | [[folder:Adventure Game]] |
| 31 | * This happens a lot in ''VideoGame/ManiacMansion''. If a character dies with something important in their pocket, you may not be able to get the item again (this happened in the NES version). If they die with something super important, like the old rusty key, and nobody else can access it, someone is going to sit in the dungeon forever. Some versions avert this, however, by placing a package on the kid's grave that contains all the items they were hauling around. Considering the lengths you have to go to in order to get the kids killed, as often you need to be [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential going out of your way to make it happen]] like microwaving Weird Ed's beloved hamster and then [[KickTheDog giving him the exploded remains]], it's not nearly as much a problem as it sounds even in versions without packages. |
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| 34 | [[folder:First-Person Shooter]] |
| 35 | * In the ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' series: |
| 36 | ** The original game gently pulls this stunt a couple times; twice, JC will be asked in dialogue to hand the best sidearm he's holding to an {{N|onPlayerCharacter}}PC in order to trigger marginally improved plot outcomes. These [=NPCs=] will have no interest in returning said weapons when they're done with them; this is made worse by the fact that most players will have used rare upgrades on these guns. Fortunately, this can be averted while achieving these plotlines' "good" endings by dropping the "good" weapons on the ground and grabbing an unmodified gun for the [=NPCs=] from the level. |
| 37 | ** In ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution'', you have the option to hand [[spoiler:van Bruggen]] one of your weapons to allow him to escape a Belltower ambush unscathed (he'll die if you don't). It doesn't have to be your ''best'' weapon, just any in your inventory, but if the only weapons you have are customized and upgraded, be ready to hear about your failure to save him repeatedly over half of the remaining game. It doesn't matter if you devote your every action to protecting him; it doesn't even matter if you clear out the area while he safely hides in this little alcove so that there's no one left to kill him; [[GameplayAndStorySegregation if a gun is not physically in his hand]], you're a heartless bastard. Luckily for you, there is a weapons handler just downstairs from him, letting you buy a spare gun to share. The money is returned to you with interest a bit later in the story. |
| 38 | * Cooperative multiplayer in ''VideoGame/GunfireReborn'' often revolves around players trading around or giving "scrolls" that synergize with each other's builds better than their own. If a player quits mid-run, all the items and weapons that they had in the current run remain locked on their character. While this isn't ideal, each player in multiplayer gets their own share of random scrolls and weapons, so it can be seen as not gaining extra from the quitting player, rather than losing out on items ([[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished unless you gave them extra to help them out beforehand]]). In addition, specific scrolls on another player won't prevent that same scroll from possibly spawning for anyone else anyway. Still, most considerate players will drop their entire inventory on the ground in a glowing pile before departing, internet issues or rage-quits notwithstanding. |
| 39 | * Both ''VideoGame/Left4Dead'' games have this if a player in an online game leaves. Survivor AI cannot use defibrillators or any bomb type items, but if a player who has the said items leaves the game, their bot will carry the items but cannot use them. Since the game does not allow dropping items or giving items to other players outside of pills/shots, you won't be able to take a bot's stuck items unless they get killed, where the items will then fall loose for anyone to pick up. |
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| 42 | [[folder:Hack and Slash]] |
| 43 | * In ''VideoGame/DiabloII'', hiring a new mercenary while you have an old one, will cause the old one to disappears with whatever equipment you gave him/her. |
| 44 | * In ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors 6: Empires'', you can spend a big chunk of in-game money and resources upgrading one of your officer's weapons, only to have them defect during a battle. Lu Bu is particularly prone to this (although the real Lu Bu did have ChronicBackstabbingDisorder, so it has to be expected). |
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| 47 | [[folder:MMORPG]] |
| 48 | * Happened in the short-lived ''VideoGame/TheSimsOnline''. When starting out, your Sim cannot afford a place on his/her own. So, you need to get a roommate. But, you have no idea who is trustworthy. This trope could certainly ensue. |
| 49 | * Though less severe than the others, players who choose to head up to Haven at an elevator in ''VideoGame/SpiralKnights'' will take with them their vitapods, potions, remedies, and health capsules if they don't drop them before getting on. If they leave mid-level, however, all of those items will drop where they stood and be up for grab. |
| 50 | * In ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'', when you lose your crew at the start of ''Knights of the Fallen Empire'', they keep their gear. However, there's a button on the companion interface that lets you reclaim it. Oddly, if you wait until they're reintroduced naturally, their old gear magically reappears in your inventory shortly before they come back. |
| 51 | * ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': |
| 52 | ** Can happen in this or any other MMORPG which uses guild vaults. Griefers will get themselves invited to a guild, convince their new guildmates to allow them to grab some gear out of the vault, and then leave the guild with their newfound stuff. Fortunately this activity is usually against the game's EULA and [=GMs=] can often help you recover your goods. |
| 53 | ** This was a much more prevalent problem shortly after guild vault introduction to the game due to a coding glitch: whatever banking access privileges a character had with his previous guild were the defaults given back upon joining a new guild, meaning that a vault ransacking group could give maximum withdrawal permission to an accomplice who would then join other guilds and clean out their vaults and quit the guild within 5 minutes of joining. Needless to say this was rapidly patched. |
| 54 | ** If members of a raiding guild can be considered party members, a not necessarily malicious case of this that resembles the traditional version of this trope can happen. Guilds might spend time gearing up a certain person who's crucial to progression, only for them to lose interest, encounter a real life issue, or go to a guild that's further along, taking all the gear they've looted with them. It can be frustrating to be passed over for a piece of gear in favor of someone who needs it more, only for them to leave soon after they they acquire it, which doesn't benefit you or your guild. |
| 55 | * The above kind of behavior is NOT against the rules in ''VideoGame/EveOnline'', and is a particularly infamous and widespread profession, making vetting new members and restricting access a lot more of a big deal. If your corporation gets swindled out of your items, tough luck, you should have been more careful about placing your trust in people. Your only option is to swear revenge. |
| 56 | [[/folder]] |
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| 58 | [[folder:Platform Game]] |
| 59 | * ''VideoGame/MegaManX5'': If Zero becomes Maverick, you lose all the [[HeartContainer Heart Tanks]] and life/weapon up parts he's collected. |
| 60 | [[/folder]] |
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| 62 | [[folder:Real-Time Strategy]] |
| 63 | * ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar 2'': |
| 64 | ** At one point they don't tell you they're going to take a squad out from your control for "guard" duty before it happens, leaving all your best kit stuck on that squad. Wouldn't be so bad if you got control back before having to face the hardest boss yet encountered before you are able to redistribute the equipment. Hey, ya think some GRENADES would be good right 'bout now? |
| 65 | ** Though you get the gear back later and it does set him up for a [[spoiler: BigDamnHeroes moment. Turns out the relics he was guarding were suits of Tactical Dreadnought Armor. Can turn into a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome]]. |
| 66 | ** Potentially inverted in ''Chaos Rising'', when [[spoiler:the traitor in your ranks (assuming he wasn't Martellus) politely drops all the armor, weapons, and gear of yours that he was carrying.]] Unfortunately, though you may get all the items back, instead you lose [[spoiler:the only character who could have used the items with any kind of proficiency (e.g. Avitus' heavy weapons, Cyrus' bombs)]]. |
| 67 | * ''VideoGame/Pikmin3'' has a ''required'' example -- [[spoiler:the first time the team rescues Louie, he will make off with ''all your [[PlotCoupon fruit juice]]'' the next day, which can result in a Game Over if you don't collect enough by sunset. Luckily, the glutton hasn't eaten any of it when he returns it, and he's also nice enough to open a previously inaccessible area with a large supply of fruit in it, so if you made sure to strip the Garden of Hope dry before this moment, [[DevelopersForesight the game devs have your back]]]]. |
| 68 | * ''VideoGame/TreasurePlanetBattleAtProcyon'': Unlike every other ship given to the player in the campaign, the Fast Frigate does not stay in the player's fleet after it is replaced by the Frigate as the player's command ship in mission 9. All of the weapon upgrades, crew and Victory Points the player spent on the Fast Frigate are lost with it. |
| 69 | * ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'': |
| 70 | ** Averted in that the various hero characters could carry and use items, and would keep them between missions. If, at any point, a hero left, all their items would be on the ground at the start of the next mission. The only exceptions were at the end of each campaign (obviously): if the items weren't there, that character was coming back. |
| 71 | ** The only exception is if the Hero you can't use anymore was on a separate journey than the main hero of the campaign. For example, Grom Hellscream during his two missions in the Orc Campaign, Illidan during his own single mission in the Night Elf Campaign and any of Sylvanas' missions during the Frozen Throne Undead campaign. Anything they or any other heroes they met had is [[PermanentlyMissableContent permanently lost]]. There is a minor exception though, since [[spoiler:Illidan]] is a usable hero for both the Night Elf and Alliance campaigns in Frozen Throne, he retains any gear he had between campaigns. |
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| 74 | [[folder:Role-Playing Game]] |
| 75 | * ''VideoGame/{{Albion}}'' is nice enough to give you a chance to take equipment from the one character who leaves for plotline reasons. However, this is played straight if you neglect to take equipment off character who you fire to make more room in your party. |
| 76 | * Toyed with in ''VideoGame/ArcRiseFantasia''. |
| 77 | ** You can't equip or unequip [[GuestStarPartyMember guest characters]], and characters who leave for an extended period leave their equipment and orbs behind. |
| 78 | ** However, they keep their stuff if they're only gone for a little bit, and the game isn't very nice about warning you. One character, for example, gets booted in the cutscene preceding a boss fight -- and this happens ''twice in a row'' with no warning. |
| 79 | ** Finally, when playing as the alternate party, you ''can'' unequip them if you'd like, but they don't share the same item pool as your party... so there's no point. |
| 80 | * Averted in ''VideoGame/{{Arcana}}''. Every time someone joins or rejoins the party, they have no equipment at all, and you have to buy new gear for them. This can be a hassle if the character joins in the middle of a dungeon, which means you'll need to go back to town. On the other hand, every time they leave their equipment is automatically removed and left in your inventory, which you can then keep or sell as needed. |
| 81 | * ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'': |
| 82 | ** When Virgil runs off to deal with his subplot, he takes his inventory with him. According to this [[http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Arcanum/chapter54.html Let's Play]], this can create plot difficulties when his equipment is too good! This used to be even more problematic in earlier versions of the game which recreated Virgil as a new entity (similar to the example below), thus clearing out his inventory. |
| 83 | ** In addition, if you fail to reveal the villains' true plan to [[spoiler:Gideon when you meet him in Tsen'Ang, Vollinger, if he's with you]] will challenge you to a duel and leave the party. When you show up at his place, your opponent will have standard equipment rather than what you gave him before the betrayal; that stuff is, of course, [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost forever]]. |
| 84 | * ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'': |
| 85 | ** When [[spoiler:Yoshimo betrays your party]], their equipment is dumped into the Child of Bhaal's inventory. If their inventory is almost full, most of [[spoiler:Yoshimo]]'s equipment drops to the ground. Unfortunately the character is at that point trapped in a kind of glass jar, which is inaccessible from the outside after getting out. [[spoiler:Unless you kill him in an optional boss fight]], in which case you can strip your gear from his corpse per usual. |
| 86 | ** If you keep [[EmoTeen Aerie]] and [[{{Jerkass}} Korgan]] in the party together for too long, Aerie will eventually get fed up with the dwarf, storm off and vanish from the game with all your stuff. There are around a dozen romance dialogue options which will cause Aerie to leave forever in tears. Sometimes she gives you your stuff back first, but often you're screwed. |
| 87 | ** It's also possible to drive off Jaheira, though you have to mock her husband's death so you really have only yourself to blame. |
| 88 | ** Performing blatantly evil actions like allying with an undead criminal syndicate / death cult or encouraging mercenaries to butcher civilians will prompt most of the more socially upstanding party members to immediately abandon the PC, if they don't simply attempt to kill you on the spot. |
| 89 | ** If you romance Viconia, the repeated interference from Lolth will eventually convince her to break it off and leave you (in order to keep you safe, which is a major CharacterDevelopment for her). You can persuade her to stay in the party, or you can ask her to return her gear before leaving. |
| 90 | * When [[spoiler:Kalas]] leaves the party in ''VideoGame/BatenKaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean'', he takes his entire deck with him. Annoying enough already, but given the game's [[InUniverseGameClock aging]] system, all his perishable items will likely be gone by the time he comes back. In addition, if he has an aging item that evolves twice while he's gone, that's a hole in your magnus list that can't be filled. |
| 91 | * ''VideoGame/BetrayalAtKrondor'': |
| 92 | ** Both plays this trope straight and averts it -- each character has their own personal inventory, so when someone leaves for a little while, it's very easy to lose an important item to them. However, whenever someone leaves for an extended period of time (or permanently), you are given a chance to retrieve any items that you wish to keep. |
| 93 | ** On the other hand, since the party [[spoiler:permanently splits into two at one point, you can end up with your good items on the party that doesn't need them]]. |
| 94 | * At the end of ''VideoGame/BeyondDivinity'', the Death Knight who has been your unwilling companion through the whole game turns out to be Damien himself and fights you. If he's got all of your good stuff, he can be nearly impossible to beat. If you remove all of his stuff just before the final boss fight right before the big reveal and manage to keep him alive, he's incredibly easy to beat. |
| 95 | * Averted in ''VideoGame/{{Bloodnet}}''--all the characters booted from your party leave all their stuff lying on the ground in one big pile. |
| 96 | * ''VideoGame/ChildOfLight'' has Stardust, items which are consumed to give a character a permanent boost to a particular stat. Giving any of them to [[spoiler:Norah]] is a complete waste, since [[spoiler:she betrays you halfway through the game]]. |
| 97 | * Present in ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', though everybody who left would return, often fairly quickly. The first couple of times this happens, it's so early in the game that you won't lose anything particularly valuable, but Ayla can leave you without one of your most useful accessories for a while, and [[spoiler:Crono's (reversible) PlotlineDeath will almost certainly nick something, given that you CantDropTheHero until then]]. |
| 98 | * ''VideoGame/CircusElectrique'': If one of your Performance Stars [[YouLoseAtZeroTrust loses all their Devotion]], they may decide to leave your employ, taking any Gadgets you might have equipped along with them. You can also lose any equipment on a performer that falls in battle, as they get KilledOffForReal. ''Firing'' a performer, however, averts this; even if they're carrying something you forgot about, they'll be gracious enough to return it before departing. |
| 99 | * During the ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'' Chapter 2 Weird Route, after [[spoiler:casting Snowgrave on Berdly, Noelle]] will leave your party for the rest of the chapter. If you didn't take [[spoiler:her watch]] from her or gave her a one-of-a-kind item like, say, the Jevilstail... Well, you'll just have to hope she returns as a party member in a future chapter! |
| 100 | * Averted in ''VideoGame/TheDenpaMen''; when Denpa Men die in the overworld (or if you decide to send them away to free up space in your reserves), all their gear is returned to your inventory. Thankfully, this applies to Denpa Men acquired via QR Code, who can't be revived from overworld deaths or retrieved if deliberately sent away. |
| 101 | * Averted in the Platform/PlayStationPortable adaptation of ''Anime/DigimonAdventure''. The player can equip/unequip Digipieces of any Digimon in the party, even when they are not playable in a given Episode. This is important in the PlayableEpilogue [[spoiler:where the playable party is at first reduced by half, before leaving the player only with Taichi in the long bonus dungeon gauntlet, meaning there is no reason for the player to ''not'' pile all the overpowered Digipieces on Agumon]]. |
| 102 | * ''Franchise/DragonAge'': |
| 103 | ** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'': |
| 104 | *** The game is pretty obvious with which party members will stay with you and which won't (hint: look for an approval bar), so it's easy to tell when you should strip your [[GuestStarPartyMember buddies]] in the pre-initiation mission. As a bonus, the usually dramatic initiation cutscene gets an [[NakedPeopleAreFunny added dose of hilarity]]. However, even the "permanent" party members will leave if you cross their personal MoralEventHorizon -- though if they decide to attack you first, you can then kill them and take your stuff back. Thanks to the game having equippable GameBreaker rewards from purchased DownloadableContent, it's entirely possible for them to walk off with equipment you paid ''real life money'' for. Granted, you could get the armor in a new game, as the DLC quests stay once you've bought them, but it still feels like the game robbing you blind. ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' makes note of it [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/12/02/ in this strip]]. |
| 105 | *** It's averted with the guys in the pre-initiation mission. Their stuff automatically goes into your inventory after the inevitable occurs. It is played annoyingly straight with the random guys you get in the Tower of Ishal. |
| 106 | *** [[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/stolen-pixels/6831-Stolen-Pixels-147-Naked-Greed This "Stolen Pixels" strip]] illustrates the reaction of players. |
| 107 | ---->'''The Warden:''' Any minute now I'll bump into a cutscene and they'll betray me, or run off, or die or whatever. So I figured I'd swipe their gear and sell it before that happens.\ |
| 108 | '''[[spoiler:Jory]]:''' You're saying you ''sold our pants?!?'' I'm freezing my ass off over here. \ |
| 109 | '''[[spoiler:Daveth]]:''' You don't think maybe there's a ''reason'' people run off and betray you? |
| 110 | *** On the bright side, regarding the Tower of Ishal guys, if you just leave them in default gear you don't actually ''lose'' anything, and if you strip them you can get some bonus vendor trash as well as one of the only robes that'll be available for a while- normally trash too, but potentially useful if you're playing as a mage ''and'' plan to use Morrigan in your party early. |
| 111 | *** If [[spoiler:Alistair]] leaves, he takes his stuff with him, and you've no option to get it back, nor can you attack him for leaving. If Zevran decides to leave, you actually can demand his equipment before he does in a dialogue option, but he'll refuse, stating he earned it for his service. You can still attack him though, and take it from his corpse. |
| 112 | ** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', [[spoiler:Solas]] leaves your party at the conclusion of the main storyline and takes all equipment he was wearing. |
| 113 | * ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'': |
| 114 | ** ''VideoGame/DragonQuestIV'': |
| 115 | *** This game avoids this trope with gear, but it still occurs. When the different characters are united after their individual story is over, any equipment that was in the bag when their chapter ended is still there. Their money, however, is lost. At least it's explained in-game: Maya gambled it all away, Alena hired some mercenaries, Ragnar spent it wandering the world, and Torneko paid for the construction of a ship. |
| 116 | *** Also any temporary [=NPCs=] who join your party have their own personal equipment that cannot be removed and will refuse to accept any item you put into their inventory. |
| 117 | *** Savvy players will go to the casino immediately prior to the end of chapters 2 and 3 and convert the remaining money into casino tokens, which are carried over to chapter 5. Unfortunately, casino tokens are in chapter 3 ''much'' more expensive than normal. Naturally, given that Torneko's store allows him to accumulate ''vast'' amounts of money if the player is patient enough. |
| 118 | ** ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVII'' |
| 119 | *** Subverted when [[spoiler:Kiefer]] leaves the party permanently, he tosses a bag with his equipment in it through the portal the rest of the party takes back to the Ancient Fane. He does this even if you strip him of his inventory before the point of no return, because there's a letter to go with it. |
| 120 | *** There is a true problem with this later in the original Playstation version. Party members that left temporarily kept all their gear ''and the items they are holding''. This is usually not a problem because you will gain the character and those items back, however the game has a GottaCatchEmAll MacGuffin system to advance the game and in the rare chance [[spoiler:Maribel]] holds onto a [[MacGuffin shard]]...well, this is one of the few Game-Breaking Bugs that becomes UnintentionallyUnwinnable. The 3DS remake fixes this by sending anything not equipped by the characters to the BagOfHolding when they leave. |
| 121 | ** Also subverted by ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVIII'': When [[spoiler:Jessica disappears for a while, having become possessed and evil, she]] has the courtesy to leave behind [[spoiler:all of her]] stuff. |
| 122 | * The ''VideoGame/GoldBox'' series of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons [=CRPGs=]'': |
| 123 | ** {{Non Player Character}}s who left the party would lose any equipment, weapons, armour, gold and even experience that they'd gained while with the party. Particularly notable in ''Dark Queen of Krynn'' where several {{Non Player Character}}s would leave and rejoin the party at several stages, each time resetting to the same default stats and gear they started with. |
| 124 | ** Notably, the effect is ''instantaneous'' in the VideoGame/GoldBox games, as [=NPC=] inventory items ''cannot'' be traded to other characters. They can be outfitted as you like, but any equipment given to them is theirs permanently. |
| 125 | * Averted in ''Literature/EienNoFilena''; when a character leaves your party, their equipment is dumped into your inventory. Curiously, this happens even when they leave involuntarily, such as when a party member ''falls off a bridge''. |
| 126 | * In ''VideoGame/EternalSonata'', there are numerous instances where you switch between different groups of party members. Whenever you do, the party members that are left behind keep whatever equipment they have for the time being and you don't get it back until they rejoin. Not a problem with weapons, since each character has their own unique type, but definitely potentially troublesome with accessories and armor. Particularly egregious if you choose to Crescendo and Serenade for the final boss battle of Lament Mirror in the [=PS3=] version, since you don't get them back for two chapters. [[spoiler:And don't even think about equipping anything good to Claves, who ''dies'' at the end of Chapter 3, though she can rejoin, and eventually fully resurrected, if you visit Mysterious Unison in Chapter 7, at which point you can finally get back anything that was equipped.]] |
| 127 | * ''VideoGame/EvilIslands'': Your companions do not transfer from one island to another, so make sure you've taken all the equipment from them before moving on. Also, since the last mission on an island yields the most XP, which is shared among the party, you might want to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness ensure your companions do not survive the last mission at all]]. |
| 128 | * Played straight with one character in ''VideoGame/EyeOfTheBeholder II''. A {{halfling}} you meet early in the game is locked up, and you have the option to free him. However, the first time you camp with him in the party, he runs off and takes, not the equipment he's carrying specifically, but ''some of the gear of the sleeping party members''. Well, you should have expected it; he's a Thief (the CharacterClass). He even leaves a note invoking this trope by name. |
| 129 | * ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'': |
| 130 | ** In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', there are numerous temporary companions you can have on your journey. On occasion, they can be equipped with weapons, and a few can be treated outright like party members and equipped with both weapons and armor. For example, Red from Big Town, who you have to rescue from Super Mutants. The second these people have reach their destination, THE DIALOG OPTION TO TRADE ITEMS VANISHES. Then they'll just be walking around with the gear you gave them, totally unwilling to give it back. You can't even steal it without giving them better gear. The only solution is murder, which tarnishes your karma. Fortunately, it also works in reverse on occasion: Fawkes carries one of the most powerful melee weapons in the game in his inventory when you first meet him, and most players will take it (he'll equip a replacement). A temporary example occurs when you leave the Wasteland for a DLC area, you have to leave your companions behind, along with any gear they were carrying. Also, if a companion dies (which may happen due to a glitch when entering the Operation Anchorage simulation), the weapon and/or apparel they were equipped with may disappear. |
| 131 | ** Averted in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'': Arcade Gannon returns any gear given to him before completion of his companion quest, after which he is no longer available as a companion. Also averted in ''Dead Money'', where your companions give you back all your gear after being left in their spot to trigger the Gala event, and in ''Lonesome Road'' when ED-E is captured by Ulysses, since whatever stuff it was carrying is automatically returned to you. |
| 132 | * ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'': |
| 133 | ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'' a whole stream of {{Guest Star Party Member}}s are featured, all of whom take their gear with them. In the Soul of Rebirth mode in later adaptations, three of these characters ([[spoiler:Minwu, Josef, and Ricard]]) retain whatever they were equipped with and what spells they learned, making this trope useful for once—especially if you load the last of those characters with end-game equipment to share among the others, who will most likely start off [[BrutalBonusLevel woefully underequipped for Soul of Rebirth]]. |
| 134 | ** Kain from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' does a FaceHeelTurn ''[[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor twice]]'' and takes his equipment with him both times. Not to mention the other party members who frequently leave your party over the course of the game, often more than once, and take their gear with them. This includes Tellah (twice), Yang (twice), Rosa, Edward, Rydia, Palom, Porom, and Fu So Ya - in other words, ''every character in the game'' except for Edge (the only character to never leave your party after he first joins). Even Cecil -- yes, the game's ''main character'' -- pulls this on himself when he class changes (though at least none of his old equipment is usable by anyone). Rosa is an especially bad offender, because when she returns she's lost all her armor and all you get to replace it is the second-weakest armor in the game - ''right'' before a big boss fight. (Unless, of course, you game the system and unequip Tellah before his second departure.) [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/939425-final-fantasy-iv/answers?qid=34784 You might want to keep track of all these shenanigans.]] |
| 135 | *** On the other hand, when Kain comes back, he brings a brand-new set of very good equipment with him. Oh, and it's all free. |
| 136 | *** Averted in the remakes (at least for the five returning characters) that allow you to freely switch around your party before the final dungeon. Everyone's still wearing what they had when they left, though its by now horribly outdated. |
| 137 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears'': |
| 138 | *** The sequel continues the tradition, for the most part, but subverts it at one point: when [[spoiler:Dark Kain]] is "killed", all his equipment is added to your inventory (which makes sense when you consider who the character is and how he "dies"). |
| 139 | *** It also averts it with [[spoiler:the real Kain discarding his hooded man disguise and getting his Dragoon abilities back]]. He'll automatically equip his new spear, but whatever weapon he had will get tossed back to your inventory. |
| 140 | ** Notably averted in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' where, after a party member dies, is immediately replaced by another party member who inherits their equipment and experience. (You ''do'' have to re-equip the equipment and abilities, though.) |
| 141 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'': |
| 142 | *** Inverted early on, where it's possible to strip [[GuestStarPartyMember Mog's]] Mythril Lance and Shield during his first appearance. Granted, this leaves Mog utterly defenseless for the remainder of the event[[note]]However, his Dusk Requiem Dance still oneshots the boss of the scenario, and from the back row, too.[[/note]], but by the time he returns to the party it's already stocked with enough superior weaponry to make that lance look like a toothpick. And even then, he comes with another set when he rejoins anyway for some reason. |
| 143 | *** Shadow has a tendency to come and go throughout the first half of the game, the World of Balance. Better not give Shadow any rare equipment or Magicite until he joins for real in the World of Ruin. |
| 144 | *** This trope can be averted, very oddly, by speaking to the equipment guy on the airship who will somehow unequip all of Shadow's stuff and give it to you even after he's gone. |
| 145 | *** Due to a (minor to the point of being nearly unnoticeable, but entirely unavoidable) bug, inverted with just about the last character you'd expect: the boomerang and shield equipped by Kamog/Cosmog, one of the generic moogles at the beginning of the game, are "returned" to you at the end of the world. Note that you can't even alter Cosmog's equipment in the first place! (The reason for this is because this moogle shares his party member ID with Gogo, who hasn't been introduced yet, and the "unequip everyone" script accidentally counted Gogo among "everyone".) |
| 146 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'': |
| 147 | *** Aerith’s [[ItWasHisSled sudden death]] makes you lose all her equipment. Thank God the creators weren't cruel enough to take away all her materia, too... The fact that her equipment is not returned is especially irritating because there is a unique piece of armour (the Edincoat) in the dungeon just before you lose her that you will quite likely equip on her, since she is a WhiteMagicianGirl who is, for that dungeon, a RequiredPartyMember. Luckily the weapon situation is no problem at all because Aerith is the only one that can equip staves in the first place, and there is one part in the last scene at the Temple of the Ancients where you can open the menu and de-equip Aerith of her gear just before she leaves. |
| 148 | *** At various points in the game, Cloud, Tifa, and Yuffie are all temporarily PutOnABus and you lose their equipment as well, but you get their stuff back when they rejoin the group. |
| 149 | *** Luckily this is avoided by the important stuff: the Materia. Whenever a party member leaves, they hand over their Materia beforehand. The one exception to this is in the optional Wutai quest where Yuffie leaves the party and takes all of your most valuable Materia (All of your Materia if she can carry it). This includes Materia that was equipped by other characters. However this is only temporary, and indeed the only way to progress in the game is to complete the sidequest to recover your materia. If you do the quest at the first chance and are underlevelled you might have some difficulty though. |
| 150 | ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'', don't forget to take back all the magic you gave to [[GuestStarPartyMember Edea]] unless you never want to see it again after Esthar. (Thankfully, Seifer's short stint in the party is mercifully spared this trope, as anything junctioned to him will magically appear on Selphie when she makes her first appearance later in the same mission.) |
| 151 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'': |
| 152 | *** Repeatedly subverted in the first half of the game. Many of the main heroes leave and take their gear with them, but you get it back when they return. That's small comfort when the fancy new super gear you blew all your cash on wanders off before you can use it. However, the BagOfSharing effect means that even when two of your party members decide to split off from the main group, they can use items in the shared inventory and even buy items for the other party members (who are now halfway across the continent) to equip later. |
| 153 | *** The {{Guest Star Party Member}}s play it straight, however. You can remove Beatrix's armor when she fights alongside Steiner in Disk 3 (although there's no real reason, considering that you'll be able to buy it soon enough anyway), but when Marcus leaves the party after you escape from the Alexandria dungeon in Disk 2, his equipment is gone for good. This is particularly bad if he's got a Mythril Sword equipped, since you need that blade to be able to synthesize some of the very best armor in the game. |
| 154 | *** The Mythril Sword loss is only a problem if the player doesn't think to visit Esto Gaza before going to the Desert Palace. However, you can give Beatrix one of the summoning items and [[PermanentlyMissableContent lose it for good]]. Even then, you can re-acquire most summon items as random monster drops or through synthesis. |
| 155 | *** While the Mythril Sword can be be replaced, if you've been keeping up with the coin sidequest and turn all the ones you have in at the point where Marcus is in the party (which is actually your first chance to do so) you can actually have the Blood Sword at that point and Marcus can equip it (and it's probably even a good idea to do so because it makes up for Marcus's lack of power and combat options compared to Steiner) If he's wearing that when he leaves then it's gone as there's only one of them in the game. While the Blood Sword isn't required for synthesis it teaches an ability to Steiner that you probably wouldn't have had the chance to completely learn yet, and it has a useful HP drain. |
| 156 | ** Averted in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX''. Each character's weapon and armor are unique to them and can't be unequipped. And except for a few very temporary instances, the characters who join your party are there for good. |
| 157 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'': The opening 15 or so hours feature several party switches. Anything equipped on (for example) Lightning and Hope when the switch to Sazh and Vanille happens ''remains'' on Lightning and Hope. This isn't so much of a problem for weapons, since each weapon type is only usable by one character, but it gets annoying in terms of accessories. This is at its worst during Chapter 7; it ends with a hard Boss Fight, so your instinct is to equip Fang, Lightning and Hope with the best stuff you have. Except, once that's done, the chapter ends and you switch over to Sazh and Vanille, who now have access to either the cast-off accessories with poor attributes/effects, or ''absolutely nothing'' (if you sold said cast-offs). Of course, you could just ''buy'' new accessories, but it's a waste of money when you consider [[spoiler:the party comes together in the very next chapter]] anyway... |
| 158 | ** The ''Final Fantasy Legend'' games (actually ''VideoGame/{{SaGa|RPG}}'' titles renamed for America) all feature temporary party members, but anything the player equips on them ''can't be removed''. Naturally, they all take their equipment with them when they leave. Presumably this was implemented in order to prevent savvy players from pulling the reverse and stripping them naked before they go. |
| 159 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyThe4HeroesOfLight'': Occurs with every temporary party member, but most notably Krinjh, a party member early in the game. For extra pain, the player is incredibly likely to have loaded him up with expensive magic tomes, since he can use them to change the element of his basic attack, and he leaves immediately after a boss fight he must be used in. Doubly frustrating if the boss in question drops an item and it ends up on him, meaning you don't even get to ''look at it'' before he vanishes. Although the trope can be inverted by taking equipment from the guests to use or sell. |
| 160 | * ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'': |
| 161 | ** ''Videogame/GoldenSun1'': |
| 162 | *** Happens a couple times, though usually there's not too many negative effects. At the start of the first game, [[GuestStarPartyMember Jenna]] leaves permanently after the first dungeon, but there's practically nothing she can steal except her armor and some wimpy herbs. |
| 163 | *** Averted by Ivan in the first game; he'll take his stuff with him, but Isaac and Garet can't equip it anyway, and he returns any Djinn you gave him. The latter is because he returns in a cut-scene that requires a power he can only use in his starting class, [[DevelopersForesight which will change if he has Djinn equipped]]. |
| 164 | ** ''Videogame/GoldenSunTheLostAge'': A very noticeable one happens in the second game, where Piers temporarily leaves your party to go to the cemetery. While he's gone, you don't fight any enemies, but there's one point where you need a special item to make a tightrope up to the top of a building. If Piers has the item, the man in the building lowers the rope, which is the ''only'' time in the game where the sprite for lowering a rope is used. |
| 165 | ** ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'': |
| 166 | *** Occurs with Sveta. She joins your party at one point but then quickly leaves the party and doesn't rejoin until much later. If you happened to give her any of your best equipment or items, she'll take those with her. She also takes the Djinn she came with. Not that there's any reason to give her much. She comes equipped with the best vendors have to offer at that point, and she can't use anyone else's weapons. Her stats are good enough that it might actually be in your best interest to take ''her'' stuff and give it to weaker party members before she leaves. |
| 167 | *** That said, if you take her claw/fist weaponry and sell them off to vendors because no one but Sveta can use them, then when she comes back, she won't have any weapons to fight with and you'll be stuck inside a major dungeon until you beat at least one and possibly two boss fights (there's a collectible claw in between, but it's easy to miss). This is a case where letting her keep her equipped gear as she leaves is actually worthwhile. |
| 168 | * ''VideoGame/{{Grandia}}'': |
| 169 | ** In the first ''VideoGame/Grandia1'', whenever a character permanently leaves the group, the player can find items in the storage area containing that character's weapon and magic experience. Also in the game, a different party member will leave and then return with a whole new set of equipment. The entire original set of equipment and accessories will be missing. |
| 170 | ** In ''VideoGame/GrandiaII'' one member of your party dies, which appears to be this trope when it comes to the coins spent on his abilities. However, the designers were nice enough to plan ahead, as there's an item that gives you all his Skill coins back. |
| 171 | * Happens due to a programming oversight in ''VideoGame/InazumaEleven 3''. In previous games, story characters only leave for brief periods and come back with everything intact. (In fact, you can still view their equipment and stats in the menu while they're absent - they're merely locked in inactive slots.) And if you dismiss an optional party member, their equipment is returned to your BagOfSharing, but their EXP, stats, and hissatsu techniques are reset (if you recruit them back later), and any techs you taught them are gone. But in the third game, when [[spoiler:Midorikawa, Fubuki, and later Kurimatsu]] get PutOnABus, the game treats these as dismissals and their techs are still reset if/when you get them back. Thankfully, this was fixed for the UpdatedRerelease. |
| 172 | * In the old DOS rpg ''VideoGame/{{Karma}}'', the numerous [=NPCs=] you can recruit have a nasty habit of leaving your party at random moments, along with whatever expensive equipment you've bought them. |
| 173 | * ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'': In both ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' and ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'', {{Guest Star Party Member}}s[[note]]Jack Sparrow and Simba in ''II'', Buzz Lightyear and Rapunzel in ''III''[[/note]] give up all their items and abilities if they are removed and returned (making some boss battles a lot harder until you realize that). The game also makes use of this to add dramatic tension: [[spoiler:It is also done after the scene when Goofy is seriously knocked out and isn't selectable in the party for a period of time, feeding the temporary but dramatic insinuation he actually ''died''.]] |
| 174 | * ''VideoGame/KlonoaHeroesDensetsuNoStarMedal'': Guntz and Klonoa will be unavailable at certain points of the story, keeping their accessories with them until they're back. |
| 175 | * Averted in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfDragoon'' when both characters who leave ([[spoiler:Lavitz]] suffers a PlotlineDeath and [[spoiler:Shana]] gets PutOnABus) are almost instantly replaced with characters who have exactly the same Dragoon levels, XP, equipment, and addition experience as they had. |
| 176 | * Rather strangely done in ''VideoGame/LiveALive'' due to the fact that the Final Chapter only uses the main characters from each chapter. Not stripping Taroimo of his item-gained specials before completing Akira's chapter means you lose some equipment for Cube later on. In fact, you only get to carry forward things the people yanked into the final chapter have on them; again, this matters mostly with Akira (you'll only be able to bring the robot equipment from his chapter to the final chapter for Cube if you equip him with all of it, even though it does nothing for him.) It's also a good idea to swipe all of Mad Dog's gear for the Sundown Kid in the Wild West Chapter as well, since all of it practically doubles the Kid's stats and he's the ''only'' character in the game who can use all the gear his partner carries. The [[VideoGameRemake Remake]] however, makes anything that isn't healing items or robot HP upgrades or exclusive to the {{Guest Star Party Member}}s available in the Final, averting this. |
| 177 | * When someone dies in Interplay's ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', you are instantly given the task of transferring inventory to another party member. If your inventory is already full, that stuff is gone. If the One Ring is gone, you're screwed, and the game ends. |
| 178 | * ''VideoGame/{{Lufia}}'': |
| 179 | ** ''VideoGame/LufiaAndTheFortressOfDoom'' has a minor instance, since [[spoiler:Lufia]] rejoins the party for the FinalBoss with all of their gear. |
| 180 | ** In ''VideoGame/LufiaIIRiseOfTheSinistrals'', when [[spoiler:Tia, Dekar and Lexis]] leave your party, their equipped items end up in a pawn shop on Forfeit Island. |
| 181 | ** When your party gets reduced to two members temporarily in ''VideoGame/LufiaTheLegendReturns'', you don't get access to the stuff the other members had, which can be unfortunate if your best gear is on people other than Wain and Dei. And when [[spoiler:Seena]] leaves permanently, you're not getting back the stuff she had. |
| 182 | %%** ''VideoGame/LufiaTheRuinsOfLore'' does this with [[spoiler:Dekar, once again]]. |
| 183 | * Both played straight and averted in ''VideoGame/MassEffect1''. [[spoiler:Killing Wrex]] will give you all his equipment as if it just dropped. However, any items equipped on [[spoiler:Ashley or Kaidan]] are [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost for good]]. Which is kinda {{justified|Trope}}, what with [[spoiler:the nuclear bomb]] and all. The weird thing is, though, that the cutscene which depicts [[spoiler:their deaths]] puts them in their starting armor, but you still lose the one you had actually equipped them with, even though they apparently weren't wearing it. You do get [[spoiler:Ashley/Kaidan]]'s weapons and armor back on a NewGamePlus. Due to how later games handle equipment, they avert this even if you get those characters perma-killed, either in 2's SuicideMission or story events in 3. |
| 184 | * ''VideoGame/MegaManXCommandMission'' inverts this: Someone leaves, their equipment goes to the BagOfSharing. Whenever Zero leaves and re-joins, however, you'll wonder how he got new weapons after he left his old ones with you. You actually get FOUR Heat Haze weapons (which only Zero can equip) over the course of one playthrough. |
| 185 | * ''VideoGame/{{Mother}}'': |
| 186 | ** ''VideoGame/{{EarthBound|1994}}'' provides at least some acknowledgment of this. If one of your party members is kidnapped[=/=]goes on a VisionQuest[=/=]discovers True Love[=/=]returns to their home planet while holding a key item (such as the Pencil Eraser), then said item will be delivered to Ness's sister's item storage, [[AntiFrustrationFeatures so you aren't left locked out of certain areas]]. In some places, if you know a party member is about to leave, this can be useful to help save inventory space. |
| 187 | ** ''VideoGame/Mother3'': |
| 188 | *** The party members are constantly changing, though this will usually be reversible later. However, Salsa the Monkey is only playable in one chapter, so any time you've spent grinding him is worthless after the chapter is done. |
| 189 | *** When the party washes up on Tanetane, all of their items are washed away with the tide. If you defeat the Barrier Trio before getting your lost items back from Ocho, they are lost ''permanently''. |
| 190 | * Averted despite coming very close to happening ''four'' times in the course of ''VideoGame/MSSagaANewDawn''. You lose a number of party members, one permanently, but the equipment and upgrades poured into their Mobile Suits don't leave with them, as circumstances cause their Suits to be returned to you. Truly temporary party members cannot be modified or upgraded, so you don't have to worry about your funds going to waste. |
| 191 | * ''VideoGame/{{Neptunia}}'' series: |
| 192 | ** In ''VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptuniaReBirth1'', Noire joins the party for an early chapter before leaving for a while, taking her equipment with her. However there's only two things she can be equipped with that aren't unique to her, her armour and her game disc, both of which are [[SortingAlgorithmOfWeaponEffectiveness early-game junk]] anyway. |
| 193 | ** ''VideoGame/MegadimensionNeptuniaVII'' has a very fluid party that changes completely between chapters. You lose Neptune's stuff when she leaves in Z Dimension chapter, but she takes it with her to a solo interlude. Big Nep's inventory is inaccessible for most of the G Dimension chapters [[spoiler:since she's working for the villains]]. And the fours [=CPUs=] take their gear with them [[spoiler:while they're brainwashed]], which is brief but can suck if you blew your budget on the new gear available before switching to a completely different party with no warning. |
| 194 | * Defied in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights: Hordes of the Underdark'' -- the "Pool of Lost Souls" contains the equipment of henchmen who have left your party. You can retrieve any items you need for a nominal fee. |
| 195 | * ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2'': |
| 196 | ** Happens with several {{Non Player Character}}s. While you can actually ask the deserting FriendToAllLivingThings companion to leave her stuff behind, the TokenEvilTeammate [[spoiler:turned traitor]] not only will shamelessly use the shiny equipment you gave him against you, but [[spoiler:will attempt to force yet another party member to switch sides]], the success depends on how well you treated your certain {{Cloudcuckoolander}} teammate. |
| 197 | ** Party members who are KilledOffForReal either drop their gear to the ground, or to another member's inventory to prevent this. |
| 198 | ** If you try to avoid this in the final scene, TheDragon will notice (triggered when a defecting character is wearing less than 10000 GP's worth of gear), and he will call it clever but futile before ''[[OhCrap giving them some of the best weapons and armor in the game]]''. [[DevelopersForesight He also wonders if you knew they were going to betray you]]. |
| 199 | * ''VideoGame/PaladinsQuest'' can have this happen, but the worst example is the mercenary who will only join you when you buy her her full equipment set. Of course, if she leaves, you don't get the items back. Unless you use a tavern card. This item can be used at any point of the game and lets you rehire any mercenary. And the chick you bought equipment for will be with it and join you for free (when all other mercenaries cost the exact same amount of money they did the first time). |
| 200 | * ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'': |
| 201 | ** Averted in ''VideoGame/Persona3'' with the full-moon incident on October 4th. After all is said and done, [[spoiler:all of Shinjiro's equipment can be found packed up in a box in his room... most likely because he knew he was going off to be KilledOffForReal that night]]. |
| 202 | ** Also averted in ''VideoGame/Persona5'' when TheMole backstabs you; their armor, accessory, and now-useless weaponry are placed back into your inventory. |
| 203 | * Happens ''constantly'' in ''VideoGame/PhantasyStarIV'', because only the four main characters stay in the party the whole game; all the others join temporarily, and then return for the final battle when you have to pick one, except Alys [[spoiler:who dies]]. Hahn, Alys, Rune, Raja, and Seth can be un-equipped before they leave the party, and you can sell their stuff to help pay for better armor and weapons later on, but if you want to do that with Gryz, Demi, or Kyra, you have to be gutsy enough to go through a boss battle with them naked because they leave in the cutscenes following the victory. |
| 204 | * Played straight in ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' if you release one while it's holding an item, but averted starting in ''VideoGame/PokemonSwordAndShield'', where the item is simply returned to your bag. |
| 205 | * ''VideoGame/SaGaRPG'': |
| 206 | ** It's rare that characters ever leave the party after they join in ''VideoGame/SaGaFrontier'', but Asellus's story has an aversion and a straight example. Mesarthim gives you back everything she's carrying before she leaves (and you can recruit her again later anyway). [[spoiler:White Rose]], on the other hand, will take everything on her with her when she [[spoiler:decides to stay in the Labyrinth]]. You'd better hope she wasn't carrying [[DiscOneNuke the Asura]]. There's also an example in Riki's story: [[spoiler:Mei-Ling]] becomes the final boss once you acquire the last ring, so giving them anything of value right before you get said ring is a bad idea. |
| 207 | ** ''VideoGame/SaGaFrontier2'' averts this by allowing you to access the inventories of characters not in your current party, and you can even equip techniques that they've learned (this is, in fact, how you can pick up a technique that would otherwise be permanently lost). |
| 208 | * ''VideoGame/SeaOfStars'' features this trope, which is particularly egregious as it came out in ''2023'' and has had years to observe how problematic this trope is. That said, characters rarely leave for long. |
| 209 | * ''VideoGame/ShadowHeartsCovenant'' has Nicolai. He pulls a FaceHeelTurn at the end of the first dungeon, taking any equipment he's wearing (and, if you're ''really'' unfortunate, an ''Attack Boost'') with him in the process. Fortunately, [[InterfaceSpoiler his character bio lets you know it's coming]]. |
| 210 | * ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': |
| 211 | ** In ''VideoGame/MegamiTenseiII'', when the Friend bails on you, he'll take with him [[spoiler: the Solomon Ring, Orthus and half your cash.]] |
| 212 | ** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI'', the Chaos Hero will at one point decide that he needs more power in order to defeat a boss, and wants to fuse himself with a demon to do so. The next time you're at the Jakyou Manor, he'll automatically pick the highest-level demon you have (thus usually your most powerful and necessary one) and use that one. And while he does get a fair bit more powerful from this, after the boss fight he'll decide that you're weak and "only holding him back", and leaves the party forever. Actually a JustifiedTrope from an in-universe perspective; the Chaos philosophy is all about power and self-importance (which doesn't make it any less irritating). |
| 213 | ** Late in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiV'', [[spoiler:Panagia Tao]] joins you and accompanies you up until you either choose the ending route that they don't like or reach the FinalBoss on the other two routes. Once they desert you, any incenses, sutras, or essence skills you spent on them are gone forever and you can't get them back. |
| 214 | * Averted in scenario 1 of ''VideoGame/ShiningForceIII''. Julian leaves the party part way through the game (in order to join the party going through scenario 2) and his equipment is actually ''cloned''. He takes one set with him, and the other set reappears in the item storage. However, when he leaves the second scenario party to lead the one going through the third scenario, he plays this trope pretty straight. |
| 215 | * Rather realistically inverted in the ''VideoGame/SiegeOfAvalon'' anthology, where most party members have at least some equipment that cannot be unequipped, but can be taken from them if they die. (Naturally, you don't want the new kid taking the armor that's served you well for months of siege, even if he is the war hero's younger brother.) Unfortunately, it's mostly just standard mid-level armor with a distinct coloration (rare, but not unique) or even non-unique, non-enchanted, basic clothing, and it also means that you can't upgrade their armor at any point. And you'll want to. However, all but one of them will only die (permanently; every death [[KilledOffForReal is real]]) if you're badly outnumbered and you don't or can't heal them in time to save them, or get a magician in your party and set him to do it for you. |
| 216 | * Averted in both ''Silva Saga'' games. Before a character leaves the party, he/she passes off both current equipment '''and''' approximate stats to the character who's about to join you. Plot relevance aside, the next character is identical to the one you used to have. |
| 217 | * ''Franchise/StarWars: VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is rife with this. |
| 218 | ** When you suddenly and without forewarning have to leave Bastila behind [[ButThouMust because the plot says so]], she leaves with whatever equipment she was wearing (except for her weapon, which is dumped back into your inventory). Worse still, when you end up finding her again ([[spoiler:if you follow Bastila to TheDarkSide]]), she's wearing new equipment which will be inferior to her original stuff. This is also true of the Force Powers that you've taught her. They're replaced with average [[spoiler:Dark Side]] powers. This will piss you off if you are playing [[spoiler:Dark Side]] and leveled her up as a {{foil}}. This works both ways. If on your second playthrough you give her all [[spoiler:Dark Side powers to help you immensely on the Star Forge with your evil character, she will majorly kick your ass in the mini-boss fight.]] |
| 219 | ** A related event: if you join the Dark Side, certain Light Side characters will choose to fight you. Once you know this ahead of time, you can make the fight very easy by confiscating all their stuff beforehand. Of course, the stuff wouldn't be lost because you could have just picked it up from them after you killed them. But it's fun watching them challenge you to the death while in their underwear. |
| 220 | ** [[spoiler:Kreia]] in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', who leaves no matter what and takes your stuff with her. |
| 221 | ** To a lesser extent, there's the fact that both games will occasionally throw you on a mandatory run with only one character, often not your main, and at the worst possible time. Good luck winning when all your good weapons are being used by active party members. The second game was ''much'' worse about this, particularly Nar Shaddaa, which had a good hour's worth of playtime spent doing nothing but forcing you to switch between numerous characters without so much as a chance to regroup. |
| 222 | * ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'': |
| 223 | ** ''VideoGame/SuikodenI'': |
| 224 | *** Happens a few times, with characters that leave your team (either temporarily or for good) and take everything they were carrying with them. There's also an unusual instance of the trope where this is caused by the main character; when he obtains the [[BlessedWithSuck Soul Eater]] rune, it's automatically equipped to him, and whatever rune he had equipped before is lost forever. This is particularly frustrating because he might have one of two extremely rare runes that you can get right near the start of the game, [[GuideDangIt if you know how to find them]]. Later games avoid this problem by allowing characters to equip up to 3 runes instead of one, and if a character will be getting a True Rune (or other unique story-based rune, in the case of ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'') in a particular slot, chances are good that slot will be locked until they get it. |
| 225 | *** However, when [[spoiler: your BattleButler]] dies, the death is conveniently in such a way, that ''all the equipment is there!'' Right up there with [[HyperspaceArsenal "throwing equipment through a portal"]] on convenience. Still a PlayerPunch, though. |
| 226 | ** ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'': |
| 227 | *** When Jowy permanently leaves your party after a point, he takes any equipment he has with him. There's little warning about this, too. |
| 228 | *** Interestingly, another character leaves the party for good, but preparing for the trope in advance by removing all equipment from them can screw you out of the best ending, even if you met all other requirements: [[spoiler:if you want Nanami to survive, you ''have'' to have her wear armor and her defense has to be high enough. Otherwise, she'll die and you won't get the best ending]]. |
| 229 | ** In ''VideoGame/SuikodenIII'' when you return to Karaya, [[spoiler:Lulu is accidentally killed by Lady Chris]], and you lose every piece of equipment that he had on him. Luckily you're not likely to have anything special equipped to him. |
| 230 | * Krobelus in ''VideoGame/{{Summoner 2}}''. Luckily he's not allowed any armour in the first place, but he has other equipment. Make sure you have a wooden staff in the inventory that you can replace his rod with, because you aren't allowed to just take his weapon. |
| 231 | * ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'': |
| 232 | ** ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': |
| 233 | *** When [[spoiler:Kratos]] leaves the party, they take all of their equipment with them, unless you strip it off beforehand. Amusingly, even if you see it coming and do so, the character is still equipped with a set of the best equipment legally accessible at that point regardless of whether or not you had actually bought and equipped those items beforehand. On said character's return, the equipment in question is added back to the inventory. Unfortunately, it is woefully outdated by that point. |
| 234 | *** Ironically, the game ''tries'' to avert this a few times, when a character temporarily leaves the party and their equipment is added to your inventory. But the only times this happens, the character is away for such a short time it's mostly annoying having to put the equipment back on them afterwards. The one exception is Zelos if you end up [[spoiler:going down the path where he dies]]. You get all his gear back after the fact and its decent late game gear. |
| 235 | ** ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld:'' The 'mons can't be given weapons or armor, but they can hold/wear up to 2 accessories. When they're not in your party, it's impossible to see what is or isn't equipped from the guild menu, forcing you to cycle through them four-at-a-time, exit the guild, manually check every one of them, go back to the guild and select another four to search. That Odin's Cape or Edge Walker statue you spent six hours grinding to find the materials for? Yeah, they were on the spider you released two chapters ago. Good luck! |
| 236 | * Some ''Ultima'' games avert this by having the character spontaneously drop everything, including clothes. Humorously, in ''Serpent Isle'' you pick up Selena, who is very transparently working for the bad guys and tries to lead you into a very ineffective and badly planned deathtrap. When the mercs she hired show up, she makes a remark about going back to the inn (she's not going to be there, though) and then teleports out of her clothes. One wonders what she thought she'd accomplish. |
| 237 | * The ''VideoGame/ValkyrieProfile'' series is an odd turn in that it actually puts this under your control. You choose (with a couple exceptions in the second game) when to get rid of your guest party members, and thus have full control over what equipment they have at the time. The twist here is you get items in exchange for the characters, and you get better items for a well-equipped and high-level character than one you've stripped bare. |
| 238 | * In ''VideoGame/VampireTheMasqueradeRedemption'', this is averted when [[spoiler:Erik]] is forcibly removed from your party, as they drop all their stuff beforehand. However, played straight when [[spoiler:Pink]] unexpectedly leaves your party. |
| 239 | * Usually averted in ''VideoGame/AVeryLongRopeToTheTopOfTheSky''. Though your party is often in flux, party members who leave will always have their equipment dumped back in your inventory. (This actually gets a little weird when you still retain Mothcutter after [[spoiler:Rutger]] leaves the party, despite it being described as his personal weapon.) There are two exceptions: At one point [[spoiler:Ivy]] leaves the party for one dungeon and keeps their equipment on them (this is necessary, as they rejoin in the middle of a BossBattle), and everyone retains their equipment when the party splits up in the Silver Spring prison. (The last one can actually be a problem, since it can leave certain party members crippled against their {{Duel Boss}}es.) |
| 240 | * Used [[spoiler:and then inverted at the end]] in ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', due to Neku [[spoiler:getting a different partner at the start of each week]]. You ''can'' buy some of the clothes again if you want them that desperately. Thankfully, the first time it happens, it's not too much of a loss: [[spoiler:female equipment is useless to Neku and his other two partners after Shiki]] unless you ''really'' powerlevel Bravery. And most of that first person's equipment is likely to be [[spoiler:Shiki-specific]], anyway. The loss of the money stings a bit, though. Although once you finish the game and can visit any day, and also have the option of the alternate verse to run around in with any partner you choose, any clothing given to someone is easily recoverable at that point. |
| 241 | * In ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1'', one of your party members leaves for a large chunk of the story, taking whatever they have on with them. Once they come back, they're sporting entirely new equipment. Though as they leave in the first hour or two of the game, the gear you lose isn't that valuable. |
| 242 | * Averted in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX''. Although one of your party members leaves for good, completing Doug's final Heart-to-Heart conversation after beating the game will reward you with their gear. |
| 243 | * Averted in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2''. Only thrice do characters leave the party. The first and third time, the characters return before you really have a chance to miss anything they were equipped with. The second time, [[spoiler:Vandham's equipment is returned to you on his death, and Roc will retain whatever core and AUX chips he was using when Rex resonates with him]]. |
| 244 | * ''VideoGame/YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom'' averts this- whenever a character is temporarily out of the party (or, in the case of Marthis in the Kaiba campaign, permanently so), it's possible to reassign their monsters and equipment to other characters. (However, the compatibility ball mechanic means that those monsters will probably not be as effective on the new character until they've been used on that team for a while.) |
| 245 | [[/folder]] |
| 246 | |
| 247 | [[folder:Simulation Game]] |
| 248 | * Subverted in ''VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar'', when Nagase crashes her plane in a late-game mission (ejecting safely): you expect having to buy her plane all over again, but in the debriefing, your commander tells you that the air force will pay for the replacement--the perks of [[FamedInStory being the country's most famous fighter squadron]]. [[spoiler:Averted again, when Chopper fatally crashes a few missions later: his plane is presumably replaced by the military, too, but it's never mentioned in dialogue.]] |
| 249 | * ''VideoGame/{{Rimworld}}'': Several quests involve hosting colonists from other factions, either as guests or prisoners. They usually only come with basic gear, so you may want to give them better items to improve their mood or so they don't die. However, as soon as the quest is over you lose any control over them, and they will happily take whatever you gave them. |
| 250 | * Toyed with and reversed somewhat in ''[[Videogame/{{X}} X2: The Threat]]''. During one early mission you are loaned a personnel transport ship armed with some decent equipment -- [[ATasteOfPower including some expensive shields]]. After the mission is finished you are given an old cargo transport, but its hull integrity will be greatly reduced if you decided to sell off the shields in the other ship for personal gain. |
| 251 | [[/folder]] |
| 252 | |
| 253 | [[folder:Sports Game]] |
| 254 | * Can happen in an intangible sense in ''VideoGame/MaddenNFL''. In ''Madden 25'', players would earn XP each week you sent them into practice mode. That XP could be used on traits which would provide an immediate bonus, or to invest in a player long-term by using extremely expensive development upgrades. This, of course, deferred their on-field improvement until later. However, the game also included a mechanic whereby players could become so "insulted" by your contract offer (even if it was exactly what they asked for!) that they flatly refuse to sign with you and take all your expensive development to another team. |
| 255 | [[/folder]] |
| 256 | |
| 257 | [[folder:Stealth-Based Game]] |
| 258 | * Happens about two thirds of the way through ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'', wherein Snake recovers all of his equipment after a NoGearLevel sequence, except for all of his previously captured animals and collected food (including the pricelessly valuable {{Tsuchinoko}}, if you were lucky enough to find it - fortunately you can catch it again just after getting your gear back). Humorously, you can call [=EVA=] about this, and she will confess that she rifled through your pack for instant noodles, but the rest of Snake's pack was emptied by Ocelot because "he wanted to eat the same things Snake did". |
| 259 | [[/folder]] |
| 260 | |
| 261 | [[folder:Survival Horror]] |
| 262 | * In ''VideoGame/DeadIsland'', Jin's role is to act as a living storage box, a la ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil.'' However, towards the end of the game [[spoiler:she ends up dying]], taking most of your weapons with her. Sure, you can just start a new game and get them back, but some of the best ones are only found in the final half of the game. Heaven help you if you let her hold that precious Zed's Demise. |
| 263 | * ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'': |
| 264 | ** ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilOutbreak'': |
| 265 | *** The game would give you AI partners if you were playing alone, who were notorious for occasionally taking extremely valuable items or ammo and running off to die. You could take the items off the bodies, but generally the same monsters which killed them would kill you. |
| 266 | *** This could happen online as well, if someone took an important item and then went AFK for a long time, thus never able to respond to any requests for that item. If this happens in a safe area, one of the other players would have to get killed elsewhere and come back as a zombie to kill the idle player, but that wouldn't work for a two-player run or an area devoid of remaining enemies and hazards. By the time the idler's virus gauge is maxed out naturally, everyone else is likely also dead or close to it. |
| 267 | *** Amusingly, in ''Outbreak'', you could loot a dead character's body if you were in the same room, even if they were totally inaccessible because they happened to be ''inside a zombie shark'' at the time. |
| 268 | ** ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica'': |
| 269 | *** Any items carried by Claire near the end of the game will be lost forever when you switch back to Chris for the last time. |
| 270 | *** Players may be severely hampered later on if they equipped Claire with the more powerful weapons like the grenade launcher for the battle with Nosferatu. Which you're [[SnipingMission supposed to use the sniper rifle for]]. |
| 271 | * ''VideoGame/TheThing2002'': |
| 272 | ** Occurs does this practically every level. This game isn't an RPG but is filled with {{Guest Star Party Member}}s. It's a SurvivalHorror game, so ammunition and weaponry are limited. Your party members seem to desert you after each load screen for a new level and take the weapons with them. They apparently think that they have a better chance without the guy who gave them their guns. |
| 273 | ** FridgeBrilliance here: ''Anyone'' could be The Thing, and if it turns out to be 'the guy who gave them their guns', the giving of the guns could be some sort of elaborate setup. ''The Player'' knows this isn't true, but the {{Guest Star Party Member}}s don't and would therefore feel that they'd be safer away from him... and by extension away from each other as well. Paranoia does weird things to people. |
| 274 | [[/folder]] |
| 275 | |
| 276 | [[folder:Turn-Based Strategy]] |
| 277 | * Semi-averted and played straight at the same time with ''VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness''. |
| 278 | ** When you start a NewGamePlus, all of the equipment you had on the characters you had acquired through the story are lost until you get them back in their respective storylines, {{justified|Trope}} in that you technically haven't met them yet. |
| 279 | ** Then there's the part in one of the later chapters where [[spoiler:Jennifer]] leaves the team [[spoiler:(and gets subsequently {{brainwashed|AndCrazy}} by Kurtis)]] -- you lose any equipment you had on [[spoiler:her]] until [[spoiler:Kurtis does a HeelFaceTurn [[RedemptionEqualsDeath and commits his]] HeroicSacrifice]], bringing her back to the team (equipment intact, thankfully). |
| 280 | ** Additionally, [[spoiler:[[MagikarpPower Flonne]] ]]is taken out of commission for the final boss fight via [[spoiler:getting turned into a flower]]. She'll come back with her stuff on a NewGamePlus, of course, but the stuff on her, which is likely to be good stuff, since she's one of the best story characters in the game, is locked away from you until then. |
| 281 | ** After beating the aforementioned final boss, if you choose to start in [[AnotherSideanotherStory Etna Mode]] instead of a traditional NewGamePlus, [[spoiler:Laharl will die in the opening cutscene]], leaving you without ''his'' equipment, as well. Etna Mode is significantly more difficult than the normal story, and you probably ''needed'' him fully equipped to handle the final boss without access to [[spoiler:Flonne]], making it nothing short of annoying. |
| 282 | * ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'': |
| 283 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'': |
| 284 | *** The game avoids this problem (mostly) by allowing you to unequip {{Guest Star Party Member}}s before they leave the party. Due to a {{Good Bad Bug|s}}, you can even take advantage of this fact when [[spoiler:Gafgarion]] pulls a FaceHeelTurn; steal his equipment, and you'll get the stolen copy PLUS the copy he leaves behind for leaving your team! Or just unequip him prior to the battle and watch as ThatOneBoss becomes a total joke, with attack and defense stats at nearly zero. Too bad if a character gets KilledOffForReal, though... |
| 285 | *** It's also possible to invert this with the 'invite' skill. You can recruit nearly '''anyone''' into your group, strip them of their gear, and then dump them. |
| 286 | ** Subverted in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2''. [[spoiler:When Adelle leaves the clan, she doesn't take with her any of the items you had equipped to her. Eventually she re-joins the clan, so it doesn't matter anyway.]] |
| 287 | * ''Franchise/FireEmblem'': This series is constantly mixed about how items are lost. |
| 288 | ** Normally, losing a character would mean completely losing their inventory. More often than not, most players would rather reset the entire chapter than lose a valuable item (or unit). Since ''Shadow Dragon'', any items that were in a fallen ally will automatically be transferred into the convoy. |
| 289 | ** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', [[spoiler:Orson]] betrays you and takes any items that he had with him. Not that it really hurts you too much since he's only in one chapter outside of the main story. However, it can easily be averted once you know that it's coming and make him a meatshield or trade away all his items just before seizing the throne. |
| 290 | ** Averted in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'': though [[spoiler:Shinon and Gatrie]] leave the party, any items they had are automatically dropped in the convoy. |
| 291 | ** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'', you play chapters where some characters might not be with you, causing some items to be temporarily lost as you switch between one party to another. In addition, you'll sometimes fight characters you used to control (and will again in the future), and the CPU loves to break your rare weapons during these periods. |
| 292 | ** In ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem New Mystery]]'', triggering Samson or Sheena's FaceHeelTurn counts. If you've given them a PlotCoupon prior to this [[UnintentionallyUnwinnable then...]] |
| 293 | ** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses'': Depending on your choices during the Black Eagles route, this is played both ways. [[spoiler:Normally, when Edelgard and Hubert make their FaceHeelTurn, they leave your party and you have to get their stuff off them before they leave. However, if you choose to have your army follow their lead, ''Flayn'' will leave.]] This is also significant because you can potentially [[PermanentlyMissableContent lose your chosen Dancer]][[note]]About two-fifths into the game, there is an in-game dance competition. You can enter ''one'' character, who, if they win, gains the ability to use the Dancer class -- an exceedingly useful class that uses white and black magic, and can give other characters an extra turn in combat. Only ''this'' one character will ever be able to access the Dancer class, though, so if this character leaves or dies, well...[[/note]] if you don't see this coming. |
| 294 | ** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'' plays this in an interesting way. After Chapter 3, Quan, Ethlyn, and Finn leave the army to return to Leonster, taking all of their gear with them. [[spoiler:Then Quan and Ethlyn return in Chapter 5, but without the gear... which is a good thing, because they don't survive for very long. (Though maybe they'd have fared better if they'd brought the good weapons with them?) Finn doesn't come back until after the time-skip, but does have his old gear with him, unless he was married off to someone, in which case his children inherit them instead.]] Speaking of which, [[spoiler:all first-generation characters either die or become otherwise unplayable at the end of chapter 5, leaving their gear to their children, but only if they ''have'' children, ''and'' those children are capable of wielding said gear. It's all too easy in some cases to end up without anyone capable of using some of your most powerful weapons or spells.]] |
| 295 | * Averted quite nicely in the ''VideoGame/JaggedAlliance'' series: mercs whose contract is up will leave behind their equipment. In fact, one of the strategies in ''Jagged Alliance 2'' involves creating an IMP merc (widely considered to be your chance to make an AuthorAvatar, and will stay on the party permanently), hiring one of the super-expensive mercs for one day with their equipment, taking the first two towns, and then--when the AIM merc's contract is up--equipping his assault rifle and expensive gear on your IMP merc. |
| 296 | * Cecille from ''VideoGame/LuminousArc'' manages to pull this without leaving the party. She has a particularly unusual class change, which ends up changing all of her equipment except accessories, removing whatever she had equipped before from the game. If, as is quite likely, you had her equipped with the Tiara -- a special headgear that prevents all status effects, equippable only by a very limited number of characters -- you're out of luck, as there's only one per playthrough. |
| 297 | * Every single team member in ''VideoGame/{{Odium}}'', since they all leave without warning. Especially ridiculous when one of your teammates departs through [[spoiler:dying an unavoidable death on the street. You'd think you could just collect the stuff off the teammate's corpse, but no dice]]. |
| 298 | * ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'': |
| 299 | ** The series tends to do this, especially with storyline deaths. A very early one occurs in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars3'' where [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Reccoa]] disappears to go spy on the bad guys and takes the Mobile Suit you put her in with you. Here's hoping you shoved her into a mook unit before hand and not one of your special Gundams. |
| 300 | ** ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha 3'': if you chose to start with Touya's route, you get to play out the beginning of the second half of ''Anime/GaoGaiGar''. Sadly, because of this, when [=GaoGaiGar=] gets wrecked, it (and Guy) go through a TenMinuteRetirement and all of [=GaoGaiGar=]'s upgrades are rendered moot. |
| 301 | ** Mostly averted in most modern games though. If a unit is lost permanently any money you spent upgrading it will be refunded. However pilot points aren't, so if you gave one of the few pilots to leave forever lots of kills to gain pilot points... well you just wasted your time and deprived pilots who you keep permanently of them. Not to mention you don't get refunded for units that are simply inaccessible for awhile but eventually come back, even if "awhile" is upwards of 20 stages and they only return shortly before the finale. Woe to the player who invested heavily in Akito in ''W'', only for the Prince of Darkness plot to kick in and make him unavailable for almost the second half of the game, or one who upgraded units in the first ''Z'' game that wouldn't be with them for the middle route where the teams are split up for 20 stages. Hope you can make do without them. |
| 302 | * In ''VideoGame/VanguardBandits'', there are several characters who leave the party[[labelnote:*]]Ione and Galvas in the Kingdom branch, Cecilia in the Empire-Sadira branch, and Devlin, Zeira, and Galvas in the Ruin branch[[/labelnote]], and will take whatever equipment they have and whatever [[HumongousMecha ATAC]] they're piloting with them. There's no way to remove equipment or [=ATAC=]s from a character, so all you can do is make sure that they don't have anything that you're going to miss. Any EXP they gained will be wasted as well, and since you cannot grind and there is only a limited number of enemies in the game, this has the potential to mess you up if you let one of these characters soak up too many kills. |
| 303 | * ''VideoGame/Warhammer40000ChaosGate'' has this on one level. Enemies will teleport in, grab a random team member and then whisk him away, [[PermanentlyMissableContent never to be seen again]]. Hope you didn't have any rare/unique wargear on him! |
| 304 | [[/folder]] |
| 305 | |
| 306 | !!Non-video game examples: |
| 307 | |
| 308 | %%[[folder:Anime and Manga]] |
| 309 | %%* This is {{Lampshaded}} in a side omake by Natsuki Takaya in a ''Manga/FruitsBasket'' volume. |
| 310 | %%[[/folder]] |
| 311 | |
| 312 | [[folder:ComicBooks]] |
| 313 | * ''ComicBook/ThePunisher:'' The Punisher is allowed to borrow a set of ComicBook/WarMachine armor to complete a dangerous "off the books" mission for ComicBook/NickFury. Recognizing its [[DiscOneNuke potential]] as a weapon in his one man war on crime, he decides to keep it for himself. |
| 314 | [[/folder]] |
| 315 | |
| 316 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 317 | * In ''Webcomic/{{Adventurers}}'' #407, a GuestStarPartyMember runs off with the expensive gold armor Karn bought for him, [[http://www.giantrobot.club/adventurers/2016/6/15/301-407 much to his annoyance]]. |
| 318 | [[/folder]] |
| 319 | |
| 320 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 321 | * In the WebVideo/ProZD video [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osd16ILchHs "when your party member dies permanently"]], the player character cries over Archibald's fatal wound. Archibald tries to comfort him with his dying breath... until the player character immediately reveals that they're far more upset about all the good equipment and hours of level grinding that have now been wasted. |
| 322 | %%* The [[GuestStarPartyMember Quest NPCs]] in ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'' have this problem, which proves [[FromBadToWorse disastrous]] when combined with their ArtificialStupidity. |
| 323 | [[/folder]] |
| 324 | |
| 325 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 326 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' has a {{wuxia}}-inspired episode, "The Quest", where Robin goes on a journey to the Far East to train with a mystical "True Master". In order to do so, he needs to ditch his uniform, UtilityBelt, and even his ''shoes'' before scaling a mountain to seek the Master on it's tip; meanwhile, Robin's rival Katarou stole Robin's stuff and uses Robin's weapons against him in the episode's climatic battle. |
| 327 | [[/folder]] |
| 328 |
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