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1	Games that simulate real life to a degree have, over the years, had to deal with one problem time and time again. How do you simulate the passage of time in a situation where tracking it is vital? While you can say "about an hour" when dealing with shopping, in [[TurnBasedCombat combat]] you need exact measurements. There have been many different attempts at this.
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3	There are three examples used here, blowing smoke from a smoking barrel (less than a second), loading a handgun (4 seconds) and field stripping a gun (one minute).
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5	'''Second by Second'''
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7	Each second of combat time is described out as an action. Actions taking longer than a second are broken down into second long chunks so in effect everyone acts on every turn. This is most realistic but also rather book-keeping intensive. Blowing the smoke from the barrel takes 1 second. Loading a handgun is broken down into 4 equal-length actions such as unclipping the magazine, removing the magazine, putting a new magazine in and re-engaging the mechanism. Field stripping a rifle would take 60 such actions and might just be handwaved as taking that time, rather than broken down.
8	* ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}''. The developers eventually realized that this has a few problems when trying to emulate action-movie realism with rubbery time, so ''Action'' supplement uses Turn by Turn, with the length of a turn defined as "[[RuleOfCool the time needed to do something cool]]". It even includes a rule that if a bomb was ticking, then the remaining time is [[MagicCountdown reduced by a random amount]], regardless of the chase scene length for this!
9	* ''Hackmaster'''s newest edition measures combat second by second. You can move every second, but the amount of time between 'significant' actions (attacks, spellcasting, and the like) is semi-random. The time between actions represents preparing, re-readying weapons, and the like.
10	* Most computer games that are not turn based still calculate everything by the second or part second, making them very very fast real time turn based games. (Many games use imperceptibly short turns; some shooters process 30 to 100 'turns' per second.)
11	* ''Sword’s Path Glory'' by Leading Edge Games was a tabletop game with turns that lasted ''1/12 of a second''.
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13	'''Action by Action'''
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15	A choice used extensively by Creator/WhiteWolf, similar to Second by Second in that time is broken down into seconds but different in that if an action takes longer than a second then it occurs instantaneously and then the character simply does not act for several seconds' worth of time. Less realistic (as you have sword blows hitting and then the person spending time on the attack, for example) but easier to administer. Blowing away the smoke from the barrel still takes 1 second, allowing you to act next second. Loading a handgun takes 4 seconds, meaning that you load it on second 1 and then do nothing for seconds 2-4. Stripping the rifle still takes 60 seconds, and again the detail would probably be ignored.
16	* ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' (A segment is one second, 12 segments is a round. A character's SPEED stat is how many times a round they can act, the default speed is 2.)
17	* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}''
18	* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' (by virtue of having a limited number of action points per turn)
19	* The ActiveTimeBattle in the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games
20	* ''VideoGame/PanzerDragoon Saga''
21	* ''TabletopGame/{{Scion}}''
22	* Most ''{{Roguelike}}s''
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24	'''Round by Round'''
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26	Time is sliced up into chunks, and in each chunk everyone acts. The length of the round will vary a lot by game, ranging from a few seconds to months or even years. So long as they have a defined length, it is Round by Round. The method used by ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', as well as most [=RPG=]s, this is less realistic but easier to administer again. Some actions have to span multiple rounds however and other actions seems to take a long time compared to what it would take in real life, for example pushing a button could take as much as 6 seconds if that is the length of a round. This can often also lead to problems transitioning non-combat actions into combat situations due to the duration differences. If a round is 6 seconds then blowing away the smoke would either take the whole 6 seconds or be ignored time wise. Loading a handgun would take 2 seconds longer than under other systems. Stripping the rifle takes 10 successive rounds. Some systems break the round down into portions to allow some flexibility.
27	* ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'' - In the beginning, each round simulates up to 100 years, but the amount of time spent during each round lessens as the game continues, presumably to keep it realistic. It would be crazy if it took the same amount of time for a stone age civilization to create a barracks as a modern one. Generally speaking, a game can last a maximum of 500 rounds, though most end well before that.
28	* ''TabletopGame/{{Diplomacy}}'' - 6 months a round
29	* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (and D20 system games in general) - 6 seconds a combat Round subdivided into specific action types in newer editions; 1 minute a combat round and 10 minutes a noncombat round in older editions.
30	* ''TabletopGame/GammaWorld'' - Route moves (about 4 hours) and either search moves (10 seconds) or combat melee rounds (also 10 seconds), depending on the PC's actions.
31	* ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'' - 1 year a Round
32	* The ''VideoGame/TotalWar'' series (for the turn-based part of the game, anyway). The amount of time per turn varies from game to game; ''VideoGame/RomeTotalWar'' for example has every turn represent 6 months, ''VideoGame/MedievalIITotalWar'' has turns representing two whole years and turns from ''VideoGame/NapoleonTotalWar'' are merely two weeks.
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34	'''Turn by Turn'''
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36	Used by most boardgames and ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'', this is essentially the same as Round by Round, save that each round has no specific duration attached to it. Everyone gets to act, and then everyone gets to act again. The least realistic, it is also the easiest to administer. Blowing away the smoke would almost certainly be ignored time wise. Loading a gun would either be ignored or take the same, abstract, amount of time as stripping a rifle.
37	* Most Boardgames and [=RPG=]s
38	* ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''
39	* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''. However, some attention is paid to moves of unusual duration. Particularly fast moves always go first, slower ones always go last, and some use a turn charging up or recovering.
40	* ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' at least in the early games and [[Videogame/FinalFantasyX X]] before they went to Active Time Battles.
41	* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''
42	* [[TabletopGame/IronKingdoms Warmachine and Hordes]].
43	* InteractiveFiction games.
44	* Some comicbook (but not only) {{RPG}}s have turns based on 'panels' - that is, each hero has one panel in which he can make any action normally able to be depicted in a comic book panel. Seventh Sea bases this on your charisma - the more handsome and cooler the hero is, the more often the 'camera' focuses on him.
45	* ''ComicStrip/KnightsOfTheDinnerTable'' has Brian and Weird Pete as the last participants in a long running war game based on World War 1. They meet once a month with each one carrying out a single turn which takes hours to complete. To be sure, the players' personalities are a factor in why the game ended up running (both in-universe and in-game) much longer than the actual war did.
46	* ''TabletopGame/TheWorldOfDarkness'' goes one step further and applies this to ''non-combat'' as well. The main unit of time is the "scene" - however long it takes for the events in the current area to conclude. The equivalent of "until the turn ends" is "for the rest of the scene".
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48	Under these systems there is also a distinction between prioritized and non-prioritized. In prioritized the involved parties all act one after another, each finishing everything they are doing before the next person does anything. In non-prioritized every person's actions happen at the exact same time and overlap.
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50	The ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'' supplement ''The Bot Abusers Manual'' has an interesting mechanic for how long a bot's power supply lasts between charges. The theory is that a short period of game time doing something interesting (twenty seconds shooting at Commies) should burn as much power as a long period of game time spent doing something routine (two hours wandering down corridors) - but both of these take about the same amount of real-world time to play out, so the GM just winds up a kitchen timer and lets it run down at a constant rate.

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