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7	[[caption-width-right:350:[[https://www.deviantart.com/sora-ko/art/Avatar-The-true-showdown-41464296 'Tis what you get]] when ''Avatar'' fans [[VisualPun go mad]]. (Image used with permission.)]]
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11	->'''Casey Jones:''' Not even close, Zip-neck. [[Series/GilligansIsland Professor and Mary Ann.]] Happily ever after.\
12	'''Donatello:''' Heh! No way, Atomic Mouth. Gilligan was her main man. They'd be married and have six kids by now.\
13	'''Casey Jones:''' Gilligan was a geek, Barfarooni!\
14	'''Donatello:''' ''You're'' the geek, Camel Breath.\
15	'''Casey Jones:''' Dome Head.\
16	'''Donatello:''' ''[feels his head for a bit]'' Elf Lips.
17	-->-- ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990''
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19	Aka. Shipping Wars. Nothing to do with naval warfare[[note]]unless ''VideoGame/KanColle'' or any of the many other naval waifu games are involved[[/note]]. [[SpaceIsAnOcean Or space warfare]] [[StandardStarshipScuffle involving warships.]] [[{{Pun}} Or UPS vs. FedEx.]] Or the A&E RealityShow [[Series/ShippingWars based on the rivalry between a handful of independent truckers]].
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21	Fans love to {{ship\|ping}}. Some of them have [[{{OTP}} a distinct ship that they like over all others]], while some of them are torn between contradictory pairings. Some of them like to debate a pairing while keeping in mind its status in {{canon}}, while some of them discuss it [[ShippingGoggles believing their pairing]] ''is'' {{canon}} (or, in the case of those who argue over what's going to happen like they think they're pooling money for a bet, will inevitably be). [[InternetJerk Now throw in the power of the Internet to connect everybody (and everybody's opinions) with everybody else…]]
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23	[[SeriousBusiness Shippers tend to become emotionally invested in their pairings]], and Internet shipping discussions can be quite difficult to keep peaceful. All too often, they can't help but devolve into [[FlameWar heated quarrels]] where preferences are insulted, {{ad hominem}} attacks are thrown, and [[GodwinsLaw comparisons to Nazis are made]] (though, to be sure, the latter aspect is just as capable of arising from ''any'' subject of Internet disagreement currently known to exist).
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25	These {{Flame War}}s are known as Shipping Wars: [[FanDumb verbal arguments between people with different opinions about romantic relationships between fictional characters]], though sometimes it can include real person fiction. There are those who bash whoever doesn't like their ship of choice, those who bash whoever likes a certain ship, and those who do both, usually basing their attacks on how {{canon}}[=/=]{{Fanon}} the discussed ship is. The fact that most ships really aren't canon and will never be [[ShippingGoggles is usually ignored]]. Particular hatred for a pairing or a character who gets in the way of a pairing manifests in the form of DieForOurShip in fic, or accusations of CanonSue status in analysis. Alternatively, [[PairTheSpares fans might pair that character with another character]], getting him or her out of the way of their favorite ship. This creates "alliances" between different shippers called ShipMates.
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27	Common victims include PlatonicLifePartners, HeterosexualLifePartners, and LovelyAngels. On one hand, [[ShippingGoggles lots of fans see]] {{Subtext}}, hints, and evidence [[AccidentalInnuendo where there really isn't]]; on the other, if there ''is'' some degree of subtext, other fans will [[SelectiveObliviousness adamantly refuse to see it]] and insult those who do. The DracoInLeatherPants also tends to be [[LauncherOfAThousandShips paired up a lot]], and Shipping Wars erupt when deciding to whom he belongs. Often complicated by TheILoveYouStigma.
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29	Please note: someone just simply stating their opinion about whether they like a pairing or whether they think it's canon or not isn't Ship To Ship Combat or a ship war, that's just having a discussion. Or even when someone makes fun of a pairing. It's when the fans of a certain pairing start actually attacking and insulting the ''fans'' of another pairing that it becomes Ship To Ship Combat, such as if someone says they don't like a certain pairing or doesn't think it's canon and the fans of that pairing become enraged and start attacking that person for their opinion.
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31	TropeCo/TropeCo, we'd like to order an emergency supply of MST3KMantra, please.
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33	[[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant If you really were looking for]] the trope about naval vessels fighting each other, try EpicShipOnShipAction, HotSubOnSubAction, UsefulNotes/HistoryOfNavalWarfare, or even StandardStarshipScuffle [[SpaceIsAnOcean if your definition of "naval" isn't strict.]]
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36	!!Examples
37	[[index]]
38	* ShipToShipCombat/AnimeAndManga
39	** ''ShipToShipCombat/HetaliaAxisPowers''
40	* ShipToShipCombat/ComicBooks
41	* ShipToShipCombat/FanWorks
42	* ShipToShipCombat/{{Film}}
43	* ShipToShipCombat/{{Literature}}
44	* ShipToShipCombat/LiveActionTV
45	* ShipToShipCombat/{{Music}}
46	* ShipToShipCombat/{{Theatre}}
47	* ShipToShipCombat/VideoGames
48	** ''ShipToShipCombat/FireEmblem''
49	* ShipToShipCombat/{{Webcomics}}
50	* ShipToShipCombat/WesternAnimation
51	[[/index]]
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53	!!Other Examples
54	[[folder:Toys]]
55	* ''Toys/MonsterHigh'': Cleo/Deuce was arguably the most-loved couple in the Generation 1 line, and as such has a lot of fans -- none of whom took it well when Generation 3 split them up and gave them different love interests, with the live-action movies teasing Deuce/Clawdeen and the animated series teasing Cleo/Frankie. While Deuce/Clawdeen was mostly ignored (as it's also working against years of [[ApprovalOfGod creator-supported]] headcanons that Clawdeen's a lesbian), Cleo/Frankie ended up getting a fanbase of its own, which the Deuce/Cleo shippers quickly clashed with.
56	[[/folder]]
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58	[[folder:Web Animation]]
59	* ''WebAnimation/MurderDrones'': Shipping wars aren’t uncommon, especially between Nuzi (N/Uzi) and Envy (N/V) shippers. Some people have added either one to their list of do-not-interacts, and Nuzi has been notoriously called a proship on the basis of Uzi being assumed to be a minor and N being assumed to be an adult (in reality, how old they are is debatable, as things in Episode 3 and Episode 4, like the “missing” posters in the former and N referring to everyone, including himself, as “kids” the latter, only give very vague indicators about their ages). However, with N and V seemingly drifting apart to some extent, combined with some of N and Uzi’s interactions (which have a very wide array of interpretations, ranging from simply being platonic to possibly being romantic), some people point to Nuzi being more likely to happen in canon. And despite V’s later self-sacrifice in Episode 6, which left her fate unknown, things didn’t seem to entirely settle down afterwards.
60	** One complicating factor in the whole ordeal is that the show isn’t romance-centered, so people may never know if any ships become canon.
61	* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'':
62	** The Shipping War that erupted after the events of "End of the Beginning" between the "Arkos" (Jaune Arc/Pyrrha Nikos) and the "Lancaster" (Jaune Arc/Ruby Rose) pairings. The end of "End of the Beginning" had [[spoiler:Pyrrha kissing Jaune and then dying at the hands of Cinder Fall]], leading to the Arkos pairing to suffer a ShipSinking. Many of those connected to that ship bailed over to Lancaster as a response. However, despite this, many Arkos shippers are still defiant that their ship is still viable, that [[spoiler:she's not dead]], and that those who went over to Lancaster are traitors to the ship.
63	** Lancaster competes with three other very popular Ruby-related ships: "White Rose" (Ruby/Weiss), "Nuts and Dolts" (Ruby/Penny) and Rose Garden (Ruby/Oscar). Unlike with Arkos, Season 3's events had no effect on Nuts and Dolts, largely because everyone believes the situation is temporary. [[spoiler:As a RobotGirl, Penny was never expected to stay dead. After her return in Volume 7, her storyline concludes with her death at the end of Volume 8.]]
64	** Blake has three main ships that complete with each other: "Bumblebee" (Blake/Yang), "Black Sun" (Blake/Sun) and "Changing Colours" (Blake/Ilia). While the friction with Changing Colours is milder because Ilia's feelings are unrequited, Bumblebee/Black Sun is the most divisive ship in the fandom. Both the show and the soundtracks have included ShipTease for both pairings. Every interaction, line of dialogue and song lyric gets dissected, analysed, and debated by the two sides to such an extreme, both the creators and composers have weighed in several times to try and cool things down. The ship war has only increased since Volume 6, where Sun was PutOnABus and ShipTease increased so much between Yang and Blake that other characters begin lampshading it from Volume 7. The ship wars finally emerged with a victor in Volume 9 [[spoiler:in which Blake and Yang confess their feelings for each other and seal their love with a BigDamnKiss halfway through the volume, thereby upgrading their ShipTease to OfficialCouple status]] and ultimately ShipSinking all other rival ships involving Blake... though of course the fighting continues over whether or not this was the correct decision from an artistic standpoint. Some controversial statements from Blake's voice actress[[note]]condemning Sun as a character for certain lines and actions Yang has also done that Arryn praises her for, widely seen by non-Bumblebee fans and even some who ''are'' Bumblebee fans as being hypocritical {{Double Standard}}s[[/note]] did not help the infighting.
65	* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'': During Season 5, there was a bit of this between Thanner (Than/Tanner) and Tristanner (Tanner/Tristan) shippers, all of which pretty much died down by that season's eleventh episode after certain loose ends were tied up.
66	* ''WebAnimation/TerribleWritingAdvice'': Shipping wars reaction is discussed in "Shipping" episode.
67	** Baeubien suggests that when the author doesn't want to explain why shipping is bad or commit to ShipSinking, then the best option is to embrace the shipping war. According to him, the authors should play all sides of the shipping debate for a free press...and then resolve things anticlimactically. JP also says there is no way this can be a dangerous thing to do.
68	** For the fans, Baeubien suggests insulting and harassing the supporters of the rival ship. If that doesn't work, then he suggests harassing the author until the shippers get their way. If that somehow doesn't work, then he recommends writing fanfiction.
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