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15	->''"And for that matter, why is this game called ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII''? What the hell happened to ''VideoGame/StreetFighterI''?"''
16	-->-- '''WebVideo/ThirdRateGamer'''
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18	Basically when a series is rolling along, and doing decent, if a bit obscure. Then one installment is released, and that installment takes over the series. Occasionally, a fan might go back and look at the obscure earlier entries, but within the general fanbase, this entry is the series from the moment of its release.
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20	Often caused by a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel, and related to AdaptationDisplacement, MorePopularSpinoff, and OlderThanTheyThink. The aforementioned hardcore fans sometimes declare that ItsPopularNowItSucks. Usually happens with video games, but can apply to series in other media.
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22	This does not count series which simply avert FirstInstallmentWins by having a non-iconic first installment that was never displaced from popular consciousness.
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24	Exceptionally likely in video games when an old series, beloved by those who remember it but well vanished from the public consciousness, gets a new installment. See ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII''.
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26	Contrast ItsPopularNowItSucks. The exact opposite of this is FirstInstallmentWins.
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28	''Obligatory Administrivia/TropesAreTools note: please don't call people stupid for finding out late and starting with a {{sequel}} in the middle of the series, therefore not knowing the previous ones, especially if there are no numbers in the title. If they refuse to acknowledge what came before, then you have a case of FanDumb. Starting with a sequel might lead to EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.''
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30	'''A Administrivia/{{No Recent Examples\|please}} rule applies to this trope'''. Examples shouldn't be added until '''six months''' after the sequel is released, to avoid any knee-jerk reactions. For the same reason, any existing examples shouldn't be updated due to a new, more successful, sequel until six months after its release.
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32	!!Examples:
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34	* [[SequelDisplacement/VideoGames Video Games]]
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39	[[folder:Anime & Manga]]
40	* ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'' is well-known amongst anime fans for {{re\|construction}}starting the SuperRobotGenre to the HotBlooded days of yore and is one of the most popular HumongousMecha series out there. It also happens to be the ''eighth and last'' (not counting ''Anime/GaoGaiGarFINAL'' or the {{Vaporware}} ''Baan Gaan'') installment of the ''Anime/BraveSeries''. Much of this is due to being the only show in the series to be released in Western countries - the previous seven installments [[NoExportForYou were only exported to South and East Asian countries]] - as well as the only one to appear in the ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' series until 2017's ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV''.
41	* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': The BreakthroughHit everyone remembers are from ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]'' onward. [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventurePhantomBlood Part 1]] and [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Part 2]] are a lot more like ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' than what the series later became. It's to the point that, in America at least, early attempts to localize the series started with Part 3 and ended halfway through [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Part 4]]. This leads to a lot of MarthDebutedInSmashBros in some discussion forums.
42	** The video game adaptations have it even worse: the first two games were adaptations of ''Stardust Crusaders'' (though young Joseph from ''Battle Tendency'' was playable in [[VideoGame/JojosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the latter]]), then came an adaptation of ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Golden Wind]]'' for the [[Platform/Playstation2 PS2]], and then in 2006, there was ''finally'' an adaptation of ''Phantom Blood''.
43	** Since then, the games have usually featured a variety of characters from the different installments, albeit with Jotaro usually still being the central protagonist. Case in point: ''[[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureEyesOfHeaven Eyes of Heaven]]'' features all eight [=JoJo=]s up to that point (as well as a huge number of villains and supporting characters) as playable fighters, but the final showdown in Story Mode still comes down to Jotaro and DIO.
44	** Also notable on ''VideoGame/JumpSuperStars'': The first game had Jotaro and DIO (TheHero and BigBad of ''Stardust Crusaders'', respectively) as playable and nobody else. The sequel promised including all the chapters, and they delivered... by making the other mains {{Assist Character}}s, but DIO and Jotaro still as the only playables. While Dio is also the BigBad of ''Phantom Blood'', it is his ''Stardust Crusaders'' incarnation that is most... [[MemeticMutation iconic]]. In fact, every one of his panels and almost all of his moves come from Part 3.
45	** Somewhat alleviated by the 2012-onward anime adaptation, which finally adapts the series in its proper order. Due to its surprising popularity in the west, most new fans are more likely to know of the earlier parts first. In fact, Viz released Parts 1 and 2. ''VideoGame/JStarsVictoryVs'' averts this by including Jonathan and Joseph, the protagonists of Parts 1 and 2, as the representatives of the whole franchise (which presumably ties into the anime adaptations mentioned above). There were apparently plans to include Jotaro and Dio[[note]]Though it's unclear whether he would have been the Part 1 or Part 3 incarnation[[/note]] as {{D\|ownloadableContent}}LC, but they never materialized.
46	* ''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer'': In France and Italy, ''Grendizer'' was aired before its predecessor series, ''Anime/MazingerZ'' and ''Anime/GreatMazinger''. It became phenomenally popular in that country, but almost nobody knew it was the third part of a trilogy, to the point that, when ''Mazinger-Z'' was broadcast in France ten years later, people accused it of being a ''Grendizer'' rip-off.
47	* In ''Manga/CaseClosed'', what many don't know is that Kaito Kid originally appeared in a short-lived manga, ''Manga/MagicKaito'', written by Aoyama. His appearance is just a mere {{Crossover}}. He was so [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular]] that he eventually became a main character and recurring nemesis of Conan.
48	* ''Franchise/DragonBall'': While ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' is actually more of a rebrand than an actual sequel, it is indisputable that it's more popular than the first third covered by ''Manga/DragonBall'', thanks to a strong focus on titanic fights that destroy mountains and shake the very planet, and plenty of "get hype" character power-ups and transformations along the way. This isn't exclusive to the USA: ''Z'' is more popular ''everywhere'', even in Japan, where most {{meme\|ticMutation}}s, {{shout out}}s and [[TheMerch merchandise]] come from ''Z''. It's also very telling that almost all video games and Creator/{{Toei\|Company}}'s two sequel series, ''[[Anime/DragonBallGT GT]]'' and ''[[Anime/DragonBallSuper Super]]'', take the most inspiration from ''Z''s material, and most anniversary celebrations such as ''Anime/DragonBallZKai'' focus on it.
49	** ''Dragon Ball Z''s introduction in the West also contributed to its success over the first third. [[Manga/DragonBall The first series]] had several false starts in the United States, after Harmony Gold took a crack at it in 1990, though this iteration lasted five episodes due to only airing on two local East Coast channels during school hours. Later, U.S. licensee Creator/FUNimation bought the rights to [[Manga/DragonBall all]] [[Anime/DragonBallZ three]] [[Anime/DragonBallGT shows]] at once with syndication plans. [=FUNimation's CEO=] Gen Fukanaga wanted to adapt ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' first as that's what he saw while in Japan, but Creator/{{Toei\|Company}} insisted he start from the beginning of the story with ''Dragon Ball''. Gen did so [[ExactWords by adapting only the first arc]] before skipping to ''Dragon Ball Z'' like he wanted. The rest, as they say, is history: ''Z'''s compelling action catapulted it to success and left the original ''Dragon Ball'' in the dust.
50	* ''Manga/SailorMoon'' is a spinoff of an earlier manga titled ''Manga/CodenameSailorV'', which stars Minako during her days as Sailor V. The creator was asked to expand it into a team format, which led to ''Sailor Moon''. ''Codename: Sailor V'' was initially only released in a handful of countries outside of Japan, and never in North America outside of Quebec. ''Codename: Sailor V'' eventually got an official English release in September 2011 alongside a new translation of ''Sailor Moon''; though it is doubtful it will ever become more popular, at least people know it exists.
51	* ''Anime/TekkamanBlade'' (a.k.a. ''Teknoman'') is a sequel to an earlier Tatsunoko anime, ''Anime/{{Tekkaman}}''. Barely anyone knows this. It doesn't help that ''Tekkaman Blade'' is practically a sequel InNameOnly, much less a remake. The presence of ''both'' in ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom'' helped remedy this, to an extent. Blade is still more popular, but the original now has [[MemeticMutation SPACE LANCE]] for people to remember him for...
52	* While obscure, the OVA ''Anime/TwinkleNoraRockMe'' is a cult classic among certain groups of anime fans because of its [[SoBadItsGood infamously]] LimitedAnimation, but very few people are even aware that it's a sequel. The original series, simply titled ''Nora'', remains even more obscure, likely because [[SoOkayItsAverage the animation isn't anywhere near as bad]].
53	* When you think of the character Casshern nowadays, you probably think of ''Anime/CasshernSins'' before ''Anime/NeoHumanCasshern''. In fact, [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes you'd be lucky if you found every episode of the latter]] before Creator/SentaiFilmworks released ''Neo Human Casshern'' on DVD.
54	* Outside of Japan, [[Anime/Jewelpet2009 the first season]] of ''Toys/{{Jewelpet}}'' is frequently ignored by anime watchers due to the lack of a complete subbed version. Some sites even mistakenly replace videos from the first season with videos from the [[Anime/JewelpetTwinkle second season]].
55	* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' has an in-universe example with the Second and Third Impacts. The First Impact is the meteor impact that killed the dinosaurs off way back when, [[spoiler:which actually isn't the case. First Impact is when the Black Moon struck the Earth, far before the time of the dinosaurs. The only reason the K-T meteor impact is linked to First Impact is because of the cover story for Second Impact also being a meteor impact]].
56	* ''Anime/{{Yatterman}}'' managed to do this to ''Anime/TimeBokan'', its predecessor in a meta-series. In fact, there are some fans that don't have any idea it was part of a series at all. This came to a head in the [[MilestoneCelebration 40th anniversary]] [[Anime/YattermanNight anime]] for the franchise, which mainly takes its inspiration from ''Yatterman''. ''Yatterman'' has eclipsed the entire ''Time Bokan'' franchise to such a point where people are surprised that a non-Yatterman ''Time Bokan'' protagonist (Ippatsuman) managed to be featured in ''VideoGame/TatsunokoVsCapcom''. It's been dialed back a bit with the release of ''Anime/TimeBokan24'', though.
57	* Outside of Japan, this occurred to ''Anime/OsomatsuSan''. It's a sequel series to the classic series ''Manga/OsomatsuKun'' meant to [[MilestoneCelebration celebrate the mangaka's 80th birthday]]. It ended up a SleeperHit both internationally and in Japan. Most countries didn't [[NoExportForYou get exports]] of any ''Osomatsu-kun'' series [[SequelFirst until after]] ''Osomatsu-san'', and even if they did it's unlikely most fans remember it as much as Japanese viewers. The first episode makes it clear that the series is a sequel, however many non-Japanese fans simply think they're making fun of 1960s anime in general. Many jokes go over peoples heads because they aren't acquainted with the older series (''Osomatsu-san'' is essentially what ''Theatre/DogSeesGod'' is to ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}''--a sequel of a family friendly work where everyone is older and the jokes are more adult oriented).
58	* ''Anime/{{Free}}'' is actually a TimeSkip series meant to take place years after the plot of the KA Bunko novel ''Literature/HighSpeed2013''. It's not as noticeable since the story focused on most of the cast [[KidHero in middle school]] rather than in high school, but Haruka and Rin do make references to some plot points in the book. The success of the first season led to KA Bunko trying to mitigate this by rereleasing the the first book and releasing a second volume detailing more about what happened since the first's end, with them [[CanonImmigrant integrating]] some of the show-only characters into the plot. The second book was even made into a film-- ''Anime/HighSpeedFreeStartingDays'', though it came at the cost of ''Free!'' veterans wondering why the film was about middle schoolers rather than the characters they've grown accustomed to.
59	* Many people may not realize that ''Manga/GreatTeacherOnizuka'' was an almost direct sequel to a lesser-known manga series, ''Manga/ShonanJunaiGumi'' (likely thinking that one was a prequel since it was released overseas as ''Manga/GTOTheEarlyYears'' after ''GTO'' was). They most likely assumed that GTO started InMediasRes, though it could just be the fault of Creator/{{Tokyopop}} for Americans.
60	* ''[[Anime/YuGiOhFirstAnimeSeries Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' is a largely forgotten series of 27 episodes about a variety of games that was never released outside of Japan. ''[[Anime/YuGiOh Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters]]'' was a worldwide phenomenon focused on the card game, launching a series that is still going today, and is fondly remembered by people who were kids in the early 2000s.
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63	[[folder:Comic Books]]
64	* ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'':
65	** Most of people who have heard about Characters/{{Batgirl}} are only aware of Barbara Gordon and are completely ignorant of the existence of the older character with a similar codename, Bette Kane.
66	** Related to Batgirl, [[Characters/BatmanHuntress Huntress]] and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} probably bring to mind Helena Bertinelli and Kate Kane rather than the first two women who used said codenames, Helena Wayne and Kathy Kane respectively.
67	* ''ComicBook/BlueBeetle'': Dan Garrett is known for being the original Blue Beetle, but much like [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Alan Scott]] and [[ComicBook/TheFlash Jay Garrick]][[note]]except even more so; most fans of the Silver Age Flash and Green Lantern knew of the Golden Age versions from anthologies and reprints, but Blue Beetle was a much more obscure character (not even owned by DC until the 1980s), and very few people remembered him at all by the time he became a CanonImmigrant to the DC universe during ''Crisis on Infinite Earths''[[/note]], he's been completely overshadowed by his successor Ted Kord, who in turn has been overshadowed by ''his'' successor Jaime Reyes. The general audiences know them far more than the original.
68	* ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'': If you use the name "[[Characters/CaptainAmericaCentralRoguesGallery Baron Zemo]]", you're most likely referring to Helmut, who didn't appear until nearly a decade after his father and didn't actually become Baron Zemo nearly two decades after. If you refer to Heinrich, you're going to have to specify his name to avoid confusion.
69	* ''ComicBook/{{Captain Marvel\|MarvelComics}}'': Likewise, nowadays, if someone is talking about "Captain Marvel," they're usually referring to [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Carol Danvers]], who is actually just the most recent character at Marvel to use the name. Far fewer people in the mainstream are aware of [[Characters/MarvelComicsMarvels Mar-Vell]], the Silver Age superhero she got the name from, and whose book she actually originated in. Even fewer people know about Monica Rambeau, the Captain Marvel after Mar-Vell and before Carol, or Genis, the son of Mar-Vell, or ''his sister'', who also took the codename. Let alone the temporary Skrull imposter that took the name Mar-Vell because he went too deep into being a sleeper agent.
70	* ''ComicBook/DoomPatrol'': The second volume wasn't popular at all until Creator/GrantMorrison took over, and the title subsequently became one of the most iconic comics of the '80s and early '90s. Today, few people remember the initial 18 issues that preceded Morrison's run.
71	* ''ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'': Thanks to a number of factors, including the [[AdaptationDisplacement beloved movie adaptation]], the second team (Characters/StarLord, Characters/RocketRaccoon, Characters/{{Groot}}, Drax, Gamora, etc.) is iconic and extremely well-known, while many forget or don't know that the original Silver Age team even existed. The only members of that team that are really remembered are the ones with links to the newer team, like Yondu.
72	* ''ComicBook/{{Hawkman}}'': Initially played straight, then subverted. Thanks to Hawkgirl's popularity from ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' (and previously, the Silver and Bronze Age comic book Hawks), a lot of mainstream audiences were far more familiar with the space cop, Thanagarian concept of the Hawks than the original Golden Age reincarnating Hawks. While ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' would use Carter Hall instead of Katar Hol, that didn't really do much, since it was a relatively minor role, and ''Justice League'' was just more popular in the long run. Then the ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'' used the reincarnating Hawks, and people became much more familiar with that version of them than the space cops.
73	* ''ComicBook/JohanAndPeewit'': The Belgian comic is not very famous around the world. However, everybody knows its spin-off ''Franchise/TheSmurfs''.
74	* ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'': The original team introduced in 1959 has been completely overshadowed by the retooled team introduced in the 80's, a team of supervillains kept on a government leash and assigned to do covert missions that would be too dangerous for regular soldiers. This is a stark contrast to the original team, who were just a regular band of adventurers, and with the exception of Rick Flag, Jr, contained none of the familiar faces from the better known lineup. Original team members Jess Bright, Dr. Hugh Evans, and Karin Grace will get a resounding "who?" when brought up to non-comics fans, while most of them have heard of the retooled lineup's members such as [[Characters/SuicideSquadSupportStaff Amanda Waller]], Captain Boomerang, [[Characters/SuicideSquadOperatives Deadshot]], Bronze Tiger, or Characters/{{Harley Quinn\|TheCharacter}}.
75	* ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'':
76	** Naturally, most people are unaware of the 1986 reboot ''ComicBook/TheManOfSteel'' or anything that continues from it. When ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' was released after a flurry of media coverage unheard of for a comic book saga, some more familiar with earlier comics or the character's various film and TV incarnations may have been confused to learn that Ma & Pa Kent were alive or that Characters/{{Superman\|TheCharacter}} and [[Characters/SupermanLoisLane Lois]] were officially a couple with her knowing his secret identity or that Characters/{{Supergirl\|TheCharacter}} wasn't Superman's cousin but a shape-shifting life-form who was dating long-haired redhead [[Characters/SupermanLexLuthor Lex Luthor]]. New and returning fans may have been even more confused by subplots born of elements introduced in the period between 1986 and 1992.
77	** Most of people who have heard about Characters/{{Supergirl\|TheCharacter}} are only aware of Kara Zor-El, and they completely ignore the existence of the older character with a similar codename, Lucy of Borgonia.
78	* ''ComicBook/{{Supreme}}'': Nobody really cared much about the series until Creator/AlanMoore came along. Many modern readers are unaware that there were already 40 issues prior the start to Moore's run.
79	* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'': The original run starring [[Characters/NightwingDickGrayson Robin]], [[Characters/TheFlashWallyWest Kid Flash]], Characters/WonderGirl, [[Characters/AquamanSupportingCast Aqualad]], and later [[Characters/GreenArrowSpeedy Speedy]] - has largely been displaced by TheEighties ''The New Teen Titans'' (which got rid of several of the previous Titans and introduced [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Cyborg]], [[Characters/TeenTitansStarfire Starfire]] and [[Characters/TeenTitansNewTeenTitans Raven]], and also added former ComicBook/DoomPatrol member [[Characters/TeenTitansBeastBoy Beast Boy]] to the cast), though many comic fans know that the group were TrueCompanions pre-New 52. This became even worse when the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' animated series came out and it was based on ''The New Teen Titans''. Aqualad and Speedy were included in the cartoon but are Titans East members, while Kid Flash appeared in one episode but never even interacted with the Titans. Wonder Girl was planned to appear but was banned due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers the Wonder Woman embargo]], though she did appear in the ''ComicBook/TeenTitansGo'' comic spinoff. The misconception is so strong that when Starfire was added to ''Videogame/{{Fortnite}}'' in 2022, the company's official Twitter account referred to her as a "founding member of the Teen Titans."
80	* ''ComicBook/{{Venom}}'': Everyone knows about the first [[Characters/MarvelComicsVenom Venom]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsEddieBrock Eddie Brock]], and a decent number know about the third and fourth ones, [[Characters/MarvelComicsMacGargan Mac Gargan]] and [[Characters/MarvelComicsFlashThompson Flash Thompson]]. However very few are aware that there was a ''second'' Venom, Angelo Fortunato, a mobster's son who got the symbiote in ''ComicBook/MarvelKnightsSpiderMan''. This is understandable, as the second Venom was a total pushover who only lasted a few issues at best, so many just plain forget he existed.
81	* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': The Charlton heroes ComicBook/CaptainAtom, ComicBook/BlueBeetle and ComicBook/TheQuestion were relatively successful, though none of them are A-listers or that prominent in public consciousness. No, people are much more likely to know the characters created to be their expies for ''Watchmen'', Doctor Manhattan, Nite Owl and Rorschach.
82	* ''ComicBook/XForce'': Ask someone about ''X-Force'' and you'll generally get descriptions of two books; Peter Milligan's humorous and satirical ''X-Force''/''ComicBook/XStatix'' run and Rick Remender's seminal ''ComicBook/UncannyXForce'' run. There's been multiple X-Force comics before, between, and after said books, but they tend to ignored or quickly forgotten. Fans generally know ''of'' those other series -- mainly because [[Characters/MarvelComicsCable Cable]] played a big role in them -- but not many care to know much ''about'' them.
83	* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Although created by Creator/StanLee and Creator/JackKirby, the series didn't take off as a franchise until its relaunch by Len Wein and Dave Cockrum with the addition of new and highly popular characters like [[Characters/MarvelComicsStorm Storm]], [[Characters/MarvelComicsNightcrawler Nightcrawler]], and [[WolverinePublicity especially]] [[Characters/MarvelComicsLogan Wolverine]]. Today, most people remember that particular team when asked to describe the X-Men and their ensuing adventures written by Chris Claremont. AdaptationDisplacement is also in effect here, as the later additions to the team became far better known thanks to the [[Film/XMenFilmSeries movies]] and the [[WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries various]] [[WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution animated]] [[WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009 series]]. Characters like Wolverine and Storm are now largely recognizable, while far fewer people would be likely to identify someone like Polaris. [[Characters/MarvelComicsCyclops Cyclops]] and [[Characters/MarvelComicsBeast Beast]] were in both, but while the original Cyclops would be instantly recognizable to modern fans, fans who only know the furry blue version of Beast introduced later might be puzzled by Hank's original (human except for large hands and feet) appearance.
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86	[[folder:Comic Strips]]
87	* ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' is based on a smaller newspaper comic called ''ComicStrip/{{Jon}}'', a prototypical version of the strip only run in one paper. While ''Garfield'' quickly became one of the most popular comic strips of all time (with ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' being the only one to rival its success), ''Jon'' was almost completely undocumented for decades and was considered lost media until 2020.
88	* The Hungarian ''ComicStrip/{{Jucika}}'' ran for two years in the obscure paper ''Érdekes Újság'' before transferring to the hugely popular adult satire magazine ''Ludas Matyi'' in 1959. Since then, both the strip and character have been seen as near-exclusive ''Ludas'' staples and the original hundred or so strips from the first magazine faded into oblivion for over half a century. Even after the strips became popular on the net, [[EarlyInstallmentCharacterDesignDifference her initial design]] was barely recognized anymore.
89	* ''ComicStrip/{{Popeye}}'' began existence as ''Thimble Theatre'', which first saw publication in December 1919, over nine years before its most well-known (and, eventually, titular) character's introduction in 1929. Initially a stage melodrama satire which rapidly evolved into a gag-a-day domestic comedy and, later, a serialized comedy-adventure strip centering (with occasional deviations) the [[TheSlacker lethargic]] Ham Gravy, his headstrong longtime girlfriend [[OlderThanTheyThink Olive Oyl]] and her acquisitive, shortsighted older brother Castor Oyl, the strip acquired a modest cult following over the ensuing decade but was largely removed from the mainstream culture of the period. Upon Popeye's introduction and popularization at the turn of the 1930s, however, the strip received an exponential boost in popularity, rapidly spawning a multimedia franchise and elevating its titular sailor (alongside Olive Oyl, by then retooled as his romantic interest) to a cultural icon. The first decade of ''Thimble Theatre'' (alongside much of its cast, save for Olive) has resultantly been eclipsed in ensuing decades and has (unlike the Popeye-focused 1930s run) received only a handful of fragmentary official reprints.
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93	* ''Fanfic/PokemonStrangledRed'' is actually the second installment in a trilogy, though the original ''[[https://theclocktower.forumcommunity.net/?t=48902044 Strangled]]'' and the finale ''[[http://www.theotaku.com/worlds/pokemoncreepypastas/view/211468/door%27s_open Door’s Open]]'' are virtually unknown in comparison, particularly due to the original author deleting the entire trilogy from their Website/DeviantArt page, making [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes finding the other installments quite difficult]], as they have nowhere near as many backups as ''Strangled Red'' does.
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96	[[folder:Films -- Animation]]
97	* Although ''Mask of Light'' was the first ''WesternAnimation/{{Bionicle}}'' movie, it was really a sequel to two and a half year's worth of comics, online stories and novels. Purely by virtue of being a widely released children's movie made to appeal to casual people, most average viewers are more familiar with its plot and characters than the stories that took place prior to the film. You can find plenty of online posts, video reviews and memes about the film, but only a small number of hardcore fans still talk about the stories that came before, or after.
98	* While the first ''WesternAnimation/PussInBoots2011'' is by no means an obscure movie, a quick check into the fanbase would make you realize that very few of the fanart, fanfiction, discussion or general interest in the sub-franchise involves either the first movie or the [[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfPussInBoots TV show]] in comparison to the massive popularity in all of these aspects of his EvenBetterSequel ''WesternAnimation/PussInBootsTheLastWish''.
99	* ''WesternAnimation/TheThreeCaballeros'', despite usually being considered a one-off film, is actually the sequel to a film called ''WesternAnimation/SaludosAmigos''. In this case, people can be forgiven for thinking that the sequel was a stand-alone film, because the first movie wasn't shown in ''any'' capacity between its 1942 premiere and its 1995 limited-run Laserdisc release. Even after a much wider DVD release in 2000, it's still relatively unknown.
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103	* When most people think of ''Franchise/{{Rambo}}'', they picture the character shirtless in the jungle, slaying hundreds of {{mooks}} with machineguns and explosive arrows. That's ''Film/RamboFirstBloodPartII''. In Rambo's first film, ''Film/FirstBlood'', he's fighting American lawmen and only kills one in self-defense with a rock (and the man's death wasn't even intentional, or even really directly caused by Rambo). And it's also a relatively anti-war movie, though not nearly so much as the original book, focusing on the shameful reception of Vietnam veterans upon their return home. The film ends with Rambo crying his heart out over the injustice of war and those who wage it, and in the original cut and novel's ending, [[spoiler:being DrivenToSuicide]]. The sequels are pure war porn.
104	* Partially because of its title and partially because it came out literally months after the first, only diehard ''[[Franchise/ThePinkPanther Pink Panther]]'' fans realize that the first sequel was not ''Film/TheReturnOfThePinkPanther'', but the less well-known ''Film/AShotInTheDark''. Ironically, it's ''Shot'' that brought in many of the elements (Clouseau's karate "prowess", the increasing tomfoolery of his accent) and characters (Dreyfus and Cato) who are key to the later films; it's also commonly regarded as the best film of the series.
105	* The original ''Film/MadMax1'' (which was only given limited release in America) is far more obscure than its sequels ''Film/{{Mad Max 2\|TheRoadWarrior}}'' (renamed ''The Road Warrior'' in America), ''Film/MadMaxBeyondThunderdome'', and ''especially Film/MadMaxFuryRoad''. Notably, while the sequels became highly influential visions of an AfterTheEnd world in their depictions of a post-apocalyptic wasteland, the original film is set in a ''pre''-apocalyptic civilization [[JustBeforeTheEnd that is on the verge of/in the process of falling apart]].
106	* While all ''Film/JamesBond'' films have recognition, it tends to happen with third installments that gain both critical acclaim and massive success:
107	** ''Film/{{Goldfinger}}'' for Creator/SeanConnery (his third film in the role).
108	** ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'' for Creator/RogerMoore (third film in the role, again).
109	** ''Film/GoldenEye'' (with Creator/PierceBrosnan) eclipsed its immediate predecessors of the Creator/TimothyDalton era. It also [[FirstInstallmentWins eclipsed the rest of Brosnan's run]].
110	** ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' for Creator/DanielCraig (third film for him, see a pattern here?), though ''Film/{{Casino Royale\|2006}}'' defends itself pretty well against it.
111	* Many people have no idea that Creator/RobertRodriguez's ''Film/{{Desperado}}'' is actually the second film of a trilogy, the first being ''Film/ElMariachi'', which was made on a shoestring budget and never received a wide release.
112	* ''Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly'', the third installment of Creator/SergioLeone's Film/DollarsTrilogy, is even more famous than ''Film/AFistfulOfDollars'' and ''Film/ForAFewDollarsMore''.
113	* In the ''Franchise/EvilDead'' series, most people remember the ass-kicking character of Ash, toting a shotgun and sporting a chainsaw for a hand. The [[Film/TheEvilDead1981 first film]] of the series, however, is a more straight horror film with an ensemble cast. Ash is just a regular college kid who happens to make it to the end. Producers were even reluctant to call the second film ''Film/EvilDead2'' out of the belief that few people had even heard of the first film. Taken up to 11 with ''Film/ArmyOfDarkness'', which totally dropped the Evil Dead name as well as most of the gore to make it more marketable to mainstream audiences and got so popular as a stand-alone movie that it's not uncommon to find fans of it who don't even know the rest of the franchise exists.
114	* The ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' franchise is so synonymous with its undead, hockey mask-adorned StockSlasher and primary VillainProtagonist, Jason Voorhees, that many casual observers would only know that the killer in the [[Film/FridayThe13th1980 original film]] was ''Jason's mother'' and not Jason himself from the opening scene of ''[[Film/Scream1996 Scream]]'', if they are aware of this fact at all. Moreover, such people are probably even less likely to know that Jason only acquired what has since become his signature hockey mask partway through [[Film/FridayThe13thPartIII the third film]] (previously putting in appearances as a deformed CreepyChild in flashbacks and [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane ambiguous dream sequences]] in the first film, and as a SackheadSlasher in [[Film/FridayThe13thPart2 the second film]]), that he did not become a hulking RevenantZombie until [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVIJasonLives the sixth film]], and that not even all of the sequels truly feature him as the main villain (in particular, [[Film/FridayThe13thPartVANewBeginning the fifth film]] has a JackTheRipoff killer).
115	* The cult classic kung fu flick ''Film/MasterOfTheFlyingGuillotine'' is actually a sequel to the little-remembered film ''Film/OneArmedBoxer''.
116	* Although it works fine as a stand-alone film, ''Film/AnotherTimeAnotherPlace'' is actually a sequel to a MadeForTVMovie based on another Jessie Kesson novel called ''The White Bird Passes'', which deals with the protagonist's childhood.
117	* Tom Laughlin directed and produced (using assumed names) ''The Born Losers'' in 1967, a typical Creator/AmericanInternationalPictures biker flick featuring Laughlin as a half-breed Indian ex-Green Beret named Billy Jack. The movie proved a surprise success and Laughlin made an even more successful sequel, ''Billy Jack'', three years later. These days ''Born Losers'' is fairly obscure while ''Billy Jack'' has a massive cult following, followed by two sequels of its own.
118	* Two strange examples with ''Film/Troll2'' and ''Film/SilentNightDeadlyNightPart2''. Both of these sequels are considered worse than the original movies, but have overshadowed them precisely ''because'' [[SoBadItsGood they're so bad and over-the-top]]. The first ''Film/{{Troll\|1986}}'' film is primarily remembered, if at all, for having a lead character named "Harry Potter" [[HilariousInHindsight who predated the famous one by over a decade]]. ''Film/SilentNightDeadlyNight'' in turn is better known for the controversy it caused for having [[BadSanta killers dressed as Santa Claus]].
119	* ''Film/SharkAttack3Megalodon'' is the [[SoBadItsGood most infamous]] of the series. Though the previous two are not great, this one has the most [[SpecialEffectFailure special effect failures]] and Creator/JohnBarrowman's infamous adlib "what do you say I take you home and eat your pussy?".
120	* While ''Film/TheTerminator'' is far from forgotten, its sequel ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' holds up so well to this day that it has eclipsed the entire franchise.
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124	* Creator/JamesBranchCabell wrote 20-odd books set in his "Poictesme" universe. They were little-read until the 7th one, ''Jurgen'', appeared in 1919: that one inspired the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice to attempt to prosecute Cabell for obscenity, naturally [[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity giving the book great publicity]]. Afterwards, Cabell went right back to obscurity. ''Jurgen'' is still by far the best known book in the series, although in the author's own opinion and that of some fans, it's not the best. (One reprinted edition of his works gave a collection of pans from the critics... then after 1919, he issued book after book to be told that it was "not nearly as good as ''Jurgen''.") Lampshaded in his later novel ''Smirt'', where the author AuthorAvatar protagonist talks God out of writing a sequel to the Bible, knowing how critics would treat it.
125	* Creator/DanBrown's runaway success ''Literature/TheDaVinciCode'' was a sequel to the much less known ''Literature/AngelsAndDemons''. This was retroactively countered by publishers and filmmakers, who hoped to take advantage of lingering Dan Brown fever by snapping up ''Angels and Demons'' and marketing it aggressively. Most people probably think ''Angels and Demons'' is the sequel; certainly this is the case for the movie.
126	* ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' is the ''second'' part in a series, though it's an easy mistake to make. As protagonist Clarice Starling is investigating her first case during the said book, and due to the movie adaptation's huge popularity, many fail to realize there was a first book; ''Literature/RedDragon'' covers the last case of Will Graham, and is connected through later-recurring characters like Hannibal Lecter and Jack Crawford. Following a proper film remake of ''Red Dragon'' and [[Series/{{Hannibal}} a prequel series]], however, the series has become better known.
127	* ''Literature/LastOfTheMohicans'' is far more well known than ''[[Literature/TheLeatherstockingTales The Pioneers]]'', to which it was written as a prequel.
128	* ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' provides an InUniverse example. Duke Leto, a charismatic and powerful leader that purchased one of the most important planets in the political system and created the second-best army in the universe, is completely overshadowed by his son, [[MessianicArchetype Paul]].
129	* Creator/HGWells' ''The Crystal Egg'', a short story about an alien artifact sent to Earth to spy on it in preparation for a coming invasion isn't remembered very well by most, especially compared to [[Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds the story of said invasion]].
130	* ''Little House in the Big Woods'' was Laura Ingalls Wilder's first book, but it is the second in the series, ''Literature/LittleHouseOnThePrairie'', that is better known, to the extent that it is the name by which the whole series is now known.
131	* ''Literature/HortonHearsAWho'' is much better known in the mainstream than the predecessor Creator/DrSeuss also wrote ''Literature/HortonHatchesTheEgg''. In fact, because the stories in both books are rather standalone, there are some who are aware of ''Hatches the Egg'' that think it's a sequel to ''Hears a Who!'' instead of the other way around.
132	* A rare case of the SpiritualSuccessor overtaking the original. Hitomi Fujimoto's shoujo mystery {{Light Novel\|s}} ''KZ Shonen Shoujo Seminar'' was CutShort after a year. Its official SpiritualSuccessor, the [[MiddleGradeLiterature tween novel]] ''Literature/TanteiTeamKZJikenNote'', however, spans more than thirty books, two {{spinoff}} series (including several full-length novels), and was adapted into both manga and anime.
133	* ''Film/BangTheDrumSlowly'' by Mark Harris was the second book in a tetralogy. Thanks to well-received TV and film adaptations, it is much more famous than its predecessor, ''The Southpaw''.
134	* Creator/MadeleineLEngle's second most famous work is arguably ''A Ring of Endless Light,'' which is actually the ''fourth'' in a five book series about the Austin family.
135	* ''Literature/MestaritontunSeikkailut'' is a classic children's book in Finland, but not that many people know that it's a sequel to Aili Somersalo's previous book, ''Literature/PaivikinSatu'', featuring one of the side characters from that book as the protagonist.
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139	* ''Series/SavedByTheBell'' is a half-sequel, half-ReTool successor to a series titled ''Good Morning, Miss Bliss''.
140	* In today's world, many people remember that sitcom about a short sassy black kid and another one about a quartet of girls in a school for girls. Not many realize that ''Series/TheFactsOfLife'' is a spin-off of ''Series/DiffrentStrokes''.
141	* ''Franchise/{{Degrassi}}'': To this day there are fans still realizing that ''Series/DegrassiTheNextGeneration'' was in fact not the original version of the series and that it is a revival of [[Series/DegrassiJuniorHigh a show from the eighties]]. This example might be explained via PopCultureIsolation: in its homeland of Canada, the original ''Degrassi'' was a prime-time smash hit and a cultural landmark, but aired to relative obscurity stateside on PBS. ''The Next Generation'', meanwhile, was the one that got immensely popular in the United States airing on The N, and the loudest in the ''Degrassi'' fanbase are Americans who watched ''The Next Generation'' on the N in the 2000s. Add its reputation for starring a young Music/{{Drake}}, and this is why ''The Next Generation'' became so disproportionately big compared to the series it spun off from. Australia can be considered an aversion to this, as many Australian ''Degrassi'' fans refer to the original series and not any of its spinoffs.
142	* In-universe example: In an episode of ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun'', it's revealed that the aliens' favorite film is ''Arthur 2: On The Rocks''. One day, Harry discovers the original ''Film/{{Arthur\|1981}}'':
143	-->'''Harry:''' There's a prequel!\
144	'''Sally:''' Well, who knew? This is going to answer so many questions about ''Arthur 2''.\
145	'''Harry:''' Yeah, like the "2".
146	* Many modern fans are unaware that ''Series/{{Ultraman}}'' was a follow-up to a lesser-known show called ''Series/UltraQ''. And with good reason, as ''Q'' took place before the ''Franchise/UltraSeries'' made a GenreShift into straight-up {{Superhero}} action, and as such comes across closer in tone to ''Series/{{The Outer Limits\|1963}}'' or ''Series/TheXFiles''.
147	* ''Series/RedDwarf''. For many fans, the show doesn't really establish its status quo until the third series (Red Dwarf III).
148	* ''Series/DoctorWho'': Most viewers nowadays are more likely to have seen the 2005 relaunch than the original series. Memories of the Classic Series are dominated by the third and fourth Doctor eras, when the show was at the height of its popularity. (With the Third Doctor era onward the program also shifted to color and was fully preserved in the archives, unlike the first two eras.)
149	* The original ''Series/LawAndOrder'' is [[AmericansHateTingle largely unknown in Spain]]. But put on TV any day, at any hour. Chances are, one channel will be broadcasting an episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' under the label "Law and Order". The same thing happens throughout Latin America.
150	* The ''Series/BattleBots'' robots Dr. Inferno Jr. and Son of Whyachi are named after their predecessors, hence their names. However, the original Dr. Inferno and the original Whyachi failed to defeat anything[[note]]Whyachi won against Hammerlock, but it was via forfeit and no fighting actually took place[[/note]] and were never shown on TV, while Dr. Inferno Jr. and Son of Whyachi proceeded to become champions and wound up being a lot more recognizable among fans of combat robotics.
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154	* Music/EltonJohn's first album, ''Empty Sky'', is rather obscure outside of the US--where it was issued in 1975 at the height of John's popularity--and his second album, ''[[SelfTitledAlbum Elton John]]'', is often considered his debut album. Outside of the US, ''Empty Sky'' tends to be remembered for "Skyline Pigeon" and little else, while ''Elton John'' is almost universally regarded as an EvenBetterSequel.
155	* Three of Music/ImagineDragons' first four hit songs - "Radioactive", "Demons", and "On Top of the World" - premiered on an EP titled, ''Continued Silence''. Its name sets it up as the follow-up to Imagine Dragons' second independently-released EP, ''Hell and Silence''. None of the songs featured there charted as highly as the most popular tunes from ''Continued Silence''. Additionally, only one song from ''Hell and Silence'' made it onto the original releases of the band's first studio album, ''Night Visions'', while all but two of the tracks from ''Continued Silence'' earned inclusion. Consequently, only the most hardcore Firebreathers remember it (as well as the other two independent [=EPs=]), for now.
156	* Music/{{Usher}}'s song "Confession, Pt. I" is not nearly as popular as its hit sequel "Confessions, Pt. II". It doesn't help that only the second part has a music video.
157	* Music/TheChicks' "Goodbye Earl" is one of their most famous songs. However, very few people know that it is a SequelSong to Music/SammyKershaw's 1993 hit "Queen of My Double Wide Trailer" (Dennis Linde wrote both songs, and Earl was a character in the earlier song).
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161	* The first Wrestling/WWEDivaSearch was a rather forgettable contest held in 2003 on WWE.com and the winner went on to appear in a photoshoot for WWE Magazine. The next year, the contest was held as weekly segments on ''Wrestling/WWERaw'' and [[Wrestling/ChristyHemme the winner]] was awarded a quarter-million dollar WWE contract. This contest was not remembered in a good way however.
162	* Wrestling/AJStyles appeared in WCW and WWF prior to becoming the face of [[Wrestling/ImpactWrestling TNA]]. His WCW and WWF runs are widely forgotten as due to company politics, he could not compete with established stars for a push (and his signing with WCW happened only a couple months before they were bought out). When TNA wanted to set itself apart from WWE, he seized the opportunity. Even after returning to WWE to great acclaim at the end of his career, WWE itself chooses to ignore his previous time in the company, in addition to choosing not to name any other company that he was a part of (again, due to company politics), including TNA and NJPW.
163	* Nowadays everyone knows that [[Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] is the WWE brand where you can find the closest thing to an actual wrestling show (as opposed to 'sports entertainment') inside WWE with many of it's wrestlers and matches being highly regarded among critics. However, not many will know the current NXT is actually the third iteration of the show. With the second one being a developmental brand made exclusively to showcase wrestlers training in the performance center. And before this, it was a wrestling '''reality show'''. Yes, NXT's first iteration was a show where developmental wrestlers competed with each other in a series of contests that had little to do with wrestling. Although occasionally you got actual matches, the focus was more on the weird challenges and the drama between mentors, who belonged to the main roster, and rookies. This era of NXT is mostly ignored by WWE with the exception of two things: first, this was the show where Wrestling/TheMiz got to "mentor" [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] kicking off their long rivalry that lasted over a decade. Secondly, the first season of NXT served as the background and foundation for the stable that would become Wrestling/TheNexus, of which all the first season rookies were a part of.
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166	[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
167	* ''TabletopGame/{{Cyberpunk}}'': The original ''2013'' book was quite popular but it got eclipsed hard by the ''2020'' book in the [=90s=], and eventually went out of print. ''2020'' on other hand is the most popular of all the tabletop games and still is in print after 30 years. All the sequels including ''[=V3.0=]'' and ''RED'' are built on the backbone of the ''2020'' book.
168	* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' is a good example, being far more popular outside the UK than ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' is. Most people who are not into the tabletop gaming scene will refer to 40k simply as "''Warhammer''", sometimes to the point of not even realizing that there ''is'' a medieval fantasy version.
169	* ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'' has already become this with a significant amount of its fanbase. Large numbers of players are younger people who often got introduced to the franchise by ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' (if not absolutely started with [=AoS=] first upon seeing it on a store shelf) or even older generations who are completely unfamiliar with Wargaming. To the point that a large percentage of Age of Sigmar fans don't even know the titular God outside of the Realmgate Wars and his origins in Fantasy as a legendary Monarch nevermind his importance to the entire franchise as a whole. It's common to find players in recent days who get surprised when they discovered an earlier Warhammer game with a fantasy setting had existed from the 80s all the way to early 2010s especially with how 40,000 had become the face of the fictional universe.
170	* Though every edition of ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' has a pretty firm following, the many {{Newbie Boom}}s over the years mean that the most "iconic" edition can range heavily. But even when there were only a few products available, ''Advanced Dungeons & Dragons'' was far more popular than ''Basic'', which was a modified version of the oldest ruleset. For a while, it became pretty common for groups to switch up to the newest edition, or at least for new players to prefer the new one--but 2000's 3rd Edition (or more specifically, 3.5) bucked that trend and refused to lose popularity when 4th Edition rolled around, due to 4th being a majorly ContestedSequel, and seemed to be essentially the "default" vision of the game until 5th Edition showed up in 2014.
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174	* ''Theatre/RichardIII'' is perhaps the most egregious example of all, as throughout history it was often and ''is'' often discussed and performed as a stand-alone play, when in fact it is a direct sequel to ''Theatre/HenryVI'' and almost all the characters from ''Richard'' were introduced in ''Henry''. It is to the point where entire in-depth analyses of the play completely neglect to mention its context, and whole interpretations of Richard and other characters by actors and critics overlook the events of ''Henry'' and how those characters were shaped by it -- many events in ''Richard'' make a ''lot'' more sense in light of what these characters got up to in ''Henry'' and the relationships between them are shown as quite a bit more complex and multi-layered than might first appear if ''Richard'' is watched solo.
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178	* ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' is a sequel to ''VisualNovel/ChaosHead'' that ended up being ''far'' more popular in the West than its predecessor. In addition to ''Steins;Gate'' [[EvenBetterSequel largely being considered a better story overall]], one of the biggest reasons for ''Chaos;Head''[='s=] comparative lack of popularity is that its anime adaptation is by and large [[AdaptationDecay considered to be subpar]], even without the source material taken into account. Most visual novels become popular outside of Japan as a result of people enjoying their anime adaptations, so the fact that ''Steins;Gate''[='=]s adaptation is generally ''very'' well received gives it a major advantage over ''Chaos;Head'' in terms of popularity. Also, since ''Steins;Gate'' is only connected to ''Chaos;Head'' in the first place due to them [[TheVerse taking place in the same world]], all of the {{Continuity Nod}}s made to ''Chaos;Head'' in ''Steins;Gate'' won't be understood by anyone unfamiliar with the former story, and you don't need to read ''Chaos;Head'' first in order to understand ''Steins;Gate'' at all, most ''Steins;Gate'' fans aren't even aware that the two stories are connected in the first place. Further hurting its accessibility is that, as a direct result of the sequel displacement, ''Steins;Gate'' received an ''official'' translation long before ''Chaos;Head'' did. Further cementing this is the fact that ''VisualNovel/ChaosChild'', a thematic sequel with much stronger narrative ties to ''Chaos;Head'' also managed to get localized before the original release.
179	* ''VisualNovel/TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever''. What little attention it gets over the other two is only because of the poster child for MorePopularSpinoff, ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', and the only reason it gets ''any'' attention is due to its sequel {{O\|riginalVideoAnimation}}VA - which, unlike the ''[=TH2=]'' anime, is suitable for all audiences, although it still doesn't make any sense unless you play the game first.
180	* ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' was the first visual novel to be set in the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}. While it was popular enough to get various adaptations and [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood its own video game]], it has since been ''eclipsed'' in popularity by its successor, ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', which started a [[Franchise/FateSeries multimedia franchise]] that makes up the majority of the Nasuverse and gained a mainstream recognition that ''Tsukihime'' never came close to achieving.
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184	* ''Webcomic/MSPaintAdventures'' offers an internal example with ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'', which was the fourth ''MS Paint Advenutre'' series. ''Homestuck'' was a megahit and is probably one of ''the'' most popular webcomics of the late 2000's-mid 2010's. ''Problem Sleuth'', ''Homestuck'''s immediate predecessor, had a popular run, but it had nowhere near the insane popularity of ''Homestuck''.
185	* Hey, kids! Ever heard about ''Unsound of Mind''? No? Well, how about ''Webcomic/{{Heartcore}}''? In fact, many of the characters in ''Heartcore'' originated from [=UoM=], which has become the creator's OldShame.
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188	[[folder:Web Video]]
189	* Parodied in the ''WebVideo/BestOfTheWorst'' episode featuring Creator/MaxLandis as a special guest.[[note]]The episode has since [[MissingEpisode been unlisted]] after WebVideo/RedLetterMedia severed ties with Landis in response to the many allegations of sexual abuse leveled against him.[[/note]] Rich Evans identifies [[Creator/JohnLandis his father]] as the director of ''Film/BluesBrothers2000'', and upon being told he also directed the first ''Film/BluesBrothers'', lets out an incredulous "There was a ''FIRST ONE!?''"
190	* ''WebAnimation/ExtraCredits'' for the longest time was primarily a gaming-centric AnalysisChannel, but around 2013, they introduced the history centric ''Extra History'' with the Punic Wars as the subject matter. The developers of ''VideoGame/TotalWarRomeII'' had asked them to teach history to act as a partial marketing campaign, although they graciously said that the Extra Credits crew didn't have to mention their game. James Portnow and his team obliged happily, and the series became an immensely popular side-series for much of its time on the channel.\
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192	Overtime, the popularity of ''Extra History'' would vastly outpace the popularity of the channel's original gaming analysis videos, to the point that only ''one gaming analysis video'' out of nearly ''fifty'' would be among their most popular videos. This was only further helped by the gaming aspect being perceived as undergoing SeasonalRot due to a [[OvershadowedByControversy number of controversial topics and videos]], an unwillingess to correct mistakes, and a lack of cohesion due to the original crew leaving. By contrast ''Extra History'' remained consistently popular due to its blend of humor, charm and historical knowledge, and willingness to admit to any falsehoods that were made due to mistakes in research and ArtisticLicense. The popularity of ''Extra History'' was such that on December 5, 2022, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgwQkLgbF1Q Matt announced that the channel would be rebranded as Extra History]], with the original gaming focus shifted onto a brand new channel.
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196	[[folder:Western Animation]]
197	* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
198	** The show is a spin-off of ''Series/TheTraceyUllmanShow'', where it began as a series of interstitial shorts airing between other skits. ''The Simpsons'' would quickly become a worldwide cultural phenomenon, while these days people only talk about ''The Tracey Ullman Show'' when discussing early ''Simpsons'' cartoons. Tellingly, there are over twice as many tropes catalogued for the ''Simpsons'' shorts as there are for the show itself.
199	** An InUniverse example: in the episode "Bye Bye Nerdie", Milhouse comments that the present situation is, "like ''Film/{{Speed 2\|CruiseControl}}'', but with a bus instead of a boat." He later refers to the new girl with no friends as being ''Film/BabePigInTheCity''.
200	* Most people who have seen ''WesternAnimation/SantaBearsHighFlyingAdventure'' are usually not aware that it's a sequel to ''Santa Bear's First Christmas''.
201	* ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresInMusicDuology'': "Toot, Whistle, Plunk and Boom" is more well-known than "Melody".
202	* ''Franchise/MyLittlePonyGeneration4'' utterly eclipsed all previous generations in popularity and gained a mainstream recognition that they never came close to achieving.
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