| 1 | ->''"[D]idn't Aristarchus and the Pythagoreans propose heliocentrism in ancient times? If only they had prevailed, we might have had Real Science millennia sooner. What was ''their'' evidence?\ |
| 2 | Well, you see, fire is nobler than earth and the center is a nobler position. So fire has to be in the center. QED.\ |
| 3 | There are many names for this sort of thinking, but 'scientific' is not one of them."'' |
| 4 | -->-- '''Michael F. Flynn''', ''Literature/TheGreatPtolemaicSmackdown'' |
| 5 | |
| 6 | A character makes a conclusion based on what they perceive are facts. Their ''conclusion'' is correct, but the assumed facts ''themselves'' are wrong. |
| 7 | |
| 8 | A SuperTrope to WorryingForTheWrongReason. Compare and contrast FramingTheGuiltyParty, where the facts are ''known'' to be false, but the conclusion is still correct. Also compare ConvictionByCounterfactualClue. Can sometimes overlap with AccidentallyCorrectWriting when it happens on a meta-level. When the premises and the conclusion are correct, but the logic connecting them is false you have a BatDeduction. For the direct inverse, where the logic and premises are perfectly sound, but the conclusion isn't, see EntertaininglyWrong. May be a reason for DontShootTheMessage. Often the case when [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight the Cuckoolander is right]]. May result in BothSidesHaveAPoint, DumbassHasAPoint, JerkassHasAPoint or MoralLuck. |
| 9 | |
| 10 | Contrast with HowDidYouKnowIDidnt, where someone bluffs another based on a claim which they don't know happens to be correct. A KansasCityShuffle makes this a pivotal element of the con game (by deluding the mark into thinking they solved the con but in actuality have set themselves up to be conned in a different way). |
| 11 | |
| 12 | Note that this has to be intentional by the work. Unintentional examples fall under InformedWrongness, StrawmanHasAPoint, or UnintentionallySympathetic |
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| 14 | !!Example subpages: |
| 15 | |
| 16 | [[index]] |
| 17 | * RightForTheWrongReasons/AnimeAndManga |
| 18 | * RightForTheWrongReasons/FanWorks |
| 19 | * [[RightForTheWrongReasons/LiveActionFilms Films — Live-Action]] |
| 20 | * RightForTheWrongReasons/LiveActionTV |
| 21 | * RightForTheWrongReasons/VideoGames |
| 22 | * RightForTheWrongReasons/WesternAnimation |
| 23 | * RightForTheWrongReasons/RealLife |
| 24 | [[/index]] |
| 25 | |
| 26 | !!Other examples: |
| 27 | |
| 28 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 29 | |
| 30 | [[folder:Audio Plays]] |
| 31 | * The [[AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho Big Finish]] ''Series/DoctorWho'' audios feature a few; |
| 32 | ** "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoCCS8E12SecondChances Second Chances]]" has a minor example; a man at a party assumed Kym’s hair just looked like it was on fire because of the joss-sticks, before Kym realized that there were no joss-sticks at the party and her hair actually is on fire. |
| 33 | ** In "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoSpecialsExcelisRising Excelis Rising]]", the Sixth Doctor returns to the planet Artaris a thousand years after his last visit and meets the Warlord Grayvorn, who became immortal during his last encounter with the Fifth Doctor. When Grayvorn questions the Doctor about how he changed his appearance, he confirms that the Doctor is in a different body but has the mind of the man he first met; however, Grayvorn thus assumes this means that the Doctor has possessed someone else rather than that his body has physically changed on its own. |
| 34 | ** “[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoNEDASRavenous3E2CompanionPiece Companion Piece]]”, when the insane Time Lord the Nine has set out to "collect" the Doctor’s companions by using [[Characters/DoctorWhoRiverSong River Song]] as a source of information, Charley Pollard, Liv Chenka and Helen Sinclair assume that Bliss has been put in a cell with them to provide a catalyst for their escape as the only one of them who hasn’t travelled with the Eighth Doctor. In reality, Bliss only has no memory of the Doctor because she travelled with him in the Time War and the associated changes the War caused to her history [[TimeyWimeyBall haven’t technically happened yet]], but they are apparently correct that Bliss was key to helping the Eighth Doctor’s four companions pool their skills and escape the Nine’s cells. |
| 35 | [[/folder]] |
| 36 | |
| 37 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 38 | * ''ComicBook/ActionComics'': In the Pre-Crisis timeline, Zor-El is convinced that his forcefield will save lives due to creating a new germ-free atmosphere. Instead, it keeps them from being blown up when their planet is destroyed (something he didn't believe his brother's warnings about) and gives them a source of air when they're propelled into space. |
| 39 | * ''ComicBook/AtomicRobo'': In the "Specter of Tomorrow" story, after arriving on Hashima to track down the source of the cyborg sleeper agents that have been activating randomly across the planet, Robo and his allies run into their creator: Helsingrad. Helsingrad, ever the egotist, assumes Robo came to the conclusion that [[spoiler: ALAN's remains]] had something to do with the cyborgs because they were ''obviously'' too advanced to be the product of a human mind, when in reality Robo noticed that the cyborgs emitted a frequency like the one [[spoiler: ALAN]] used when they transformed. |
| 40 | * ''Chase'' has agent Cameron Chase attend a party in Gotham City, where she beholds a group of high-ranking men in the city's infrastructure--and she immediately, correctly, pegs one of them as a superhero. Specifically, broadcasting head Alan Scott. She's right that he's a superhero, but that's because she assumes that one of the people at the party might be ComicBook/{{Batman}}, and he was the best candidate--in fact, he's a ComicBook/GreenLantern (well, of a sort, anyway), who has no connection to Batman other than that they both operate in Gotham. Bonus points: Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson were at the same party, but she immediately dismissed them as "a couple of schmoozers." |
| 41 | * During the "Funeral for a Friend" portion of ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'', Lex Luthor II takes a wooden chair and smashes it against Doomsday's prone body in anger. The cops watching him think he's doing so because Doomsday killed Superman. They're right, but it's only because Luthor was [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou The Only One Allowed to Defeat Him]]. |
| 42 | * In ''ComicBook/DetectiveComics'' #373, "The Riddler On The Roof", ComicBook/ElongatedMan visits Gotham while Characters/{{Batman|TheCharacter}}'s busy elsewhere, and Commissioner Gordon shows him [[Characters/BatmanTheRiddler the Riddler]]'s latest clue. He stops the Riddler shortly before Batman, who has finished his own case and seen the clue, shows up. However, when they compare notes, they have completely different interpretations of what the riddle means, even though they both connected it to the same crime. Basically, either Batman, Commissioner Gordon, or ''both'' were Right For The Wrong Reasons—and out of sheer spite, the Riddler won't say which. |
| 43 | ** A story from the 90s saw Batman deal with a clay Golem destroying Jewish business in Gotham. A large clockwise swastika on the golem's belly led Batman to believe that the Golem's creator was being forced to send it out and the Buddhist-style swastika was a clue to his identity (someone educated enough to know about Yiddish traditions and the swastika's history). When Batman tracks down the creator (a Warsaw ghetto survivor being forced by a gang of Neo-Nazis), the man tells Batman he knew nothing about Buddhism: the swastika was a StealthInsult to his captors, as he couldn't bring himself to draw the counter-clockwise Nazi swastika and his captors were too ignorant to tell he drew it wrong. |
| 44 | ** In the "Going Sane" arc, [[Characters/BatmanTheJoker The Joker]] believes that he has managed to kill Batman and consequently has forgotten his previous life as a supervillain, adopting the identity of "Joseph Kerr" and building a new, peaceful life for himself. Batman, however, is still alive, and at one point connects "Joseph Kerr" to the Joker. He goes to the apartment that "Kerr" is sharing with his new fiancee, only to find no trace of the Joker or anything other than a sane, happy, loving couple living there. Batman correctly realises that the crazed supervillain he fights is nowhere near that place, but believes that it is simply because the Joker used "Kerr" as a red herring to distract him. |
| 45 | * In a ''[[ComicBook/{{Fables}} Jack of Fables]]'' comic, Jack correctly believes that [[spoiler:Goldilocks]] is actually an agent for [[BigBad Mr]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Revise]], but comes to the conclusion because [[spoiler:all of Revise's known agents wear glasses, which he assumes has some significance, so is immediately suspicious of the bespectacled Goldilocks]]. As she exasperatedly tells him, she [[spoiler:[[OccamsRazor wears glasses because she has bad eyesight]]]]. |
| 46 | * ''ComicBook/FromHell'': When William Gull calls out the psychic Robert Lees for being a fraud, Lee takes petty revenge by claiming to have visions of Gull committing the Whitechapel murders. It turns out that [[FramingTheGuiltyParty Gull really is Jack the Ripper]]. Lees is utterly surprised when Gull confesses. |
| 47 | * ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', as quoted below, has an example of a crazy person achieving this to show just how far the trope can go. |
| 48 | -->"See, there were these two guys in a lunatic asylum. And one night, they decide they don't like living in the asylum anymore. They decide they're going to escape! So, like, they get up onto the roof, and there, just across this narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away into the moonlight. Stretching away to freedom. Now, the first guy, he jumps right across with no problem. But his friend, his friend daren't make the leap. Y'see... y'see, he's afraid of falling. So then the first guy has an idea... He says, 'Hey, I have a flashlight with me! I'll shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me!' But the second guy just shakes his head. He suh-says... he says 'Wh-what do you think I am? Crazy? You'd turn it off when I was halfway across!'" |
| 49 | * ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}:'' |
| 50 | ** Gert has a deep distrust of her parents. Not because she knew they were supervillains, but because [[ReleasedToElsewhere they told her that her pet pig ran away]]. Which it probably did, considering how [[spoiler: Old Lace]] got out. |
| 51 | ** An unintentional example - Klara warns Molly that hanging out with someone like Xavin leads to problems. While she bases this on prejudice - because she thinks that Xavin is an "abomination" - Xavin does end up causing the team a lot of unnecessary problems when they have a run-in with Xavin's former mentor and then get attacked by Majesdanian survivors of the war that Xavin's family started. |
| 52 | * In ''ComicBook/{{The Sandman|1989}}'', a 14th Century peon named Hob Galding believes that by rejecting death, people just won't die. He believes that the AchievementsInIgnorance trope is in effect here, but in actuality it's this trope as Death is just so amused by his belief that she granted his wish. |
| 53 | * In ''ComicBook/ShadowWar'', Batman and Deathstroke both believe that the assassination of Ra's al Ghul and wounding of Talia is a FalseFlagOperation in order for Talia to consolidate power with her father eliminated and to blame Deathstroke for it. As it turns out, it was a False Flag Operation meant to blame Deathstroke, but [[spoiler:the perpetrator was actually Geo-Force, looking to get revenge on both Deathstroke and Talia for his losses]]. |
| 54 | * One ''ComicBook/TheSimpsons'' comic has the police looking for the criminal spraypaint tagger "El Barto". Eventually, they do manage to cuff the perpetrator (Bart, of course), but not because they caught him in the act. No, Bart had accidentally gotten ketchup on his shirt while having lunch at Krusty Burger, and ketchup just so happens to be the same color of red as the El Barto spraypaint tags. |
| 55 | * ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'': In ''[[Recap/TintinKingOttokarsSceptre King Ottokar's Sceptre]]'', Thomson and Thompson correctly deduce that Alembick's camera contained stun gas which incapacitated the guards, but mistakenly think the sceptre got thrown out the window by hand. Tintin figures out that the camera also contains a projectile launcher [[EurekaMoment when he sees some toy cannons in a toyshop (comic)/sees some cannons outside (Nelvana adaptation)]]. |
| 56 | * During ''Comicbook/TrialOfTheAmazons'' Queen Gaboymila suggets her representative Potira take Yara Flor along on her diplomatic and intelligence gathering mission to Themyscira, reasoning Yara might make it easier since she's the closest thing to a genetic link between the tribes. Yara nearly sparks war between the Esquecida and Bana-Mighdall, another tribe "visiting" Themyscira, within minutes of their arrival. However, bringing Yara along does end up being a good idea because she has SuperStrength that could prove useful in resolving two conflicts driving the story, two the Esquecida did not understand at first and nearly didn't find out about due to Yara's brash, reckless and confrontational nature, but does end up proving useful despite being a milstone to the more delicate proceedings. |
| 57 | * ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': |
| 58 | ** Unlike everyone else who just thinks of him as a benevolent philanthropist, Rorschach is very suspicious of Veidt, which turns out to have been warranted. However, this is because Rorschach has some fringe right-wing views, and so he naturally assumes the AmbiguouslyGay and liberal NiceGuy must be up to something evil. |
| 59 | ** Something similar is going on with the heavily conservative New Frontiersman, which manages to correctly poke at elements that suggest the very real conspiracy going on: things like Doug Roth's distrust of Doctor Manhattan being suspicious or the disappearance of various artists and scientists being part of a wider pattern. However, the editors of the New Frontiersman didn't really reach these conclusions through logical means; they just rooted around for any evidence that their left-leaning opposition was up to no good and then started throwing out wild guesses. Case in point: they think Doug Roth is against Manhattan because he's one of the DirtyCommunists, when Doug is being funded by an all-American delivery company... owned by Adrian Veidt. |
| 60 | ** After the Comedian is killed, Rorschach suspects that other superheroes will be targeted for murder from a "cape-killer," so he warns the surviving Crimebusters. Sure enough, an attempt is made on Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias's life. [[spoiler:Veidt is behind it all. He killed the Comedian because he knew too much about his plans and sent an assassin against himself to throw off suspicion. The irony is, the only reason Rorschach turned out to be right is because he was wrong in the first place; his attempt to "warn" Veidt actually inspired him to create a RedHerring for Rorschach to be put on the wrong tracks.]] |
| 61 | [[/folder]] |
| 62 | |
| 63 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 64 | * In one ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' [[https://www.reddit.com/r/calvinandhobbes/comments/58cy3x/i_think_eleventeen_is_one_of_my_favorite/ strip]], Calvin asks Hobbes to help with his math homework of simple addition problems. Hobbes, a KnowNothingKnowItAll, insists that Calvin will have to use "imaginary numbers" like "eleventeen" and "thirty-twelve." While he's completely wrong with the examples, he ''is'' using the correct terminology: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_number imaginary numbers do exist]], but they're only used in extremely advanced mathematics, not grade-school addition. |
| 65 | * [[http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1999-03-11/ This]] ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' comic where the PointyHairedBoss finally makes a right decision because "his ignorance clouded his poor judgment". |
| 66 | * In a ''ComicStrip/{{Mafalda}}'' strip, when Mafalda's mother unplugs the TV while Gui was watching, he tries to keep watching the show by peeking through the power outlet. When Mafalda recounts the incident to Manolito, they both start laughing...until the latter says "The images come through the wire so small! How was he supposed to see anything?" |
| 67 | * In a 2018 ''ComicStrip/ThePhantom'' storyline, Eric Sahara, aka international terrorist The Nomad, is suspicious that his daughter's best friend at boarding school is the former ward of the Bangallan President, and becomes convinced she's actually some kind of spy for his enemies, there to find information on his activities. This is pure paranoia on his part, as Heloise Walker's presence is a coincidence and her friendship with Kadia is genuine. However, at the same time as he reaches this conclusion, Heloise ''does'' start trying to find information on his activities, but not on behalf of the enemies he thinks. Sahara is unaware of her connection to his ''greatest'' enemy; she's the Phantom's daughter. |
| 68 | [[/folder]] |
| 69 | |
| 70 | [[folder:Films — Animated]] |
| 71 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TheBraveLittleToaster'' when the appliances realize the cabin is being sold and are deciding whether or not to leave and find their owner (a child they call The Master), the cynical Kirby says they should just stay because they’ll have a new master anyways. Turns out he’s right about staying behind - unbeknownst to the group, The Master (who’s grown up and just graduated high school) is on his way over to pick them up and take to college with him. [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot If they’d been patient and just waited a couple of days, they’d have been reunited with their Master far quicker and saved themselves an unnecessary journey]]. |
| 72 | * ''WesternAnimation/ABugsLife'': When Flik first brought the "warrior bugs," Atta was right that he "hired a bunch of clowns," but it was more because she didn't believe in him than that he made an honest mistake. |
| 73 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Coco}}'': Miguel says he wasn't really stealing the guitar, since it belonged to his great-great-grandfather. He's right about that, but not his GGGF's identity. |
| 74 | * ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe2'': |
| 75 | ** When one of Gru's adopted daughters, Margo, falls in love with a boy named Antonio, Gru is incredibly suspicious of Antonio, not for any specific reason but just because Antonio is a boy putting the moves on his little girl. But while Gru's actual motive is that he was just being paranoid, he turns out to be ''right'' about the fact that [[spoiler: Antonio isn't a good match for Margo, because Antonio is a huge ''flirt'' and Margo is just another pretty girl to him. But Gru didn't actually know that at first]]. |
| 76 | ** Gru is also initially suspicious of Antonio's father Eduardo because of his similar appearance to a villain named El Macho. Despite no evidence being found at Eduardo's restaurant, Gru insists he's right more as a chance to get Eduardo's son in jail as well. [[spoiler:Turns out he's right about Eduardo being El Macho and being behind the crime, but not about his son being in on it.]] |
| 77 | * In ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'', the trolls mistake Anna and Kristoff for a couple and refuse to listen to [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend their protests that they aren't]]. When Anna points out that she's already engaged, the trolls consider this for a moment and then declare, "[[MurderTheHypotenuse Get the fiancé out of the way]] and the whole thing will be fixed!" [[spoiler:It turns out there's a ''much'' more urgent reason to get rid of Hans than just resolving a love triangle: he's planning to usurp the throne of Arendelle, kill Elsa, and leave Anna for dead.]] |
| 78 | * Implied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Hoodwinked}}''; when Wolf and Twitchy encounter Boingo the Bunny, who tells them about a shortcut to get to Red's grandmother's house, Twitchy has a look of suspicion on his face to indicate his doubt that Boingo is being fully sincere with the two of them, and later agrees with Wolf that they were fools to follow Boingo's advice. While Twitchy's distrust of Boingo turns out to be well-founded upon TheReveal that [[spoiler: [[EvilAllAlong Boingo was the Goody bandit the entire time]]]], it's likely his distrust was founded more on the belief that Boingo was consorting with Red (who he and Wolf believed to be involved in the string of thefts plaguing the forest) than suspicion of Boingo being [[spoiler: the mastermind himself]]. The fact that Wolf and Twitchy spied on Red when she was with Boingo and misinterpreted parts of their conversation that seemed to validate Wolf's suspicion of Red may lend some credence to this. |
| 79 | * One of the shorts bundled on the Blu-Ray of ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' has Riley being called to answer a question in the textbook after she'd been doodling most of class. Joy, working under the assumption that it's multiple choice, has Riley answer "C." [[spoiler: It turns out she's in Spanish class -- [[FailedASpotCheck which all of the emotions somehow missed]] -- and the question was a "Yes or No" one to which "Sí" was the correct answer.]][[note]]This is one of two endings to the short.[[/note]] |
| 80 | * Implied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}'', when Tighten -- during a nasty SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids speech to Roxanne -- snarls that she's living in a fantasy world, and that there's "no Easter Bunny, there's no Tooth Fairy, and there's no Queen of England!" He's ''technically'' right on the last one, as Queen Elizabeth II did not officially hold the title of Queen of England (she was in fact the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, of which England is only a constituent part). But considering he's listing imaginary fairytale creatures and is also, to put it bluntly, incredibly stupid, it's almost certain that he's not aware of the distinction and believes that the British Royal Family is also imaginary. |
| 81 | * In ''WesternAnimation/MonsterHouse'', when Chowder learns that the house has a uvula, he says, "Oh, so it's a girl house." It is indeed female after a fashion, but the uvula is not associated with one gender over another. |
| 82 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'': |
| 83 | ** The leader of the soldiers sings, "Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?" He had no way of knowing Mulan was a girl at the time. His song was meant to question the abilities of the men. |
| 84 | ** When Mushu decides that he needs to make Mulan a war hero to redeem himself in the eyes of the Fa family ancestors and overhears that Chi-Fu intends to send a report that would determine Mulan's [[RagtagBunchOfMisfits unit]] is unfit for duty that would tank that, he blithely forges a letter and impersonates an officer informing Chi-Fu that the main army headed by General Li has engaged the Hun army and in desperate need of their help, which causes Chi-Fu to throw aside his plans and tell Shang they need to move out. Mushu only knew that the army would seeing combat with the Huns and wanted to get Mulan on the front line no matter what, but had no way of knowing what their situation was. Turns out he was completely right -- the main army ''was'' fighting the Huns and ''was'' in desperate need of reinforcements. [[spoiler:[[YouAreTooLate Too bad he didn't decide to forge that letter sooner...]]]] |
| 85 | * ''WesternAnimation/PiratesInAnAdventureWithScientists'': In one of {{the stinger}}s, Pirate Captain asks Number Two if he's [[SweetPollyOliver a woman in disguise]]. He's right that ''someone'' on his crew is a woman in disguise, but it's not Number Two. |
| 86 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'': Bowser sees Mario with Peach and jumps to the conclusion that he'll derail his evil plan because he's dating her. While Mario ''does'' intend to derail Bowser's evil plan, it's not because of any crush; at this point in the story, he and Peach haven't started dating yet, and he's instead going to save Luigi from Bowser. |
| 87 | * ''WesternAnimation/UnicornWars'': Padre is against consuming the caterpillars the squad finds in the magic forest, because [[AgainstMyReligion the holy book of his religion forbids it]]. While this is rightfullly called out as a rather flimsy reason not to take advantage of what resources they have, Padre ends up being right that the caterpillars are no good when the hallucinogens within them cause the entire squad to trip out and [[spoiler:the Cuddly-Wuddly Twins]] die because of a particularly violent hallucination. |
| 88 | * ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'': When King Candy tells Ralph Vanellope can't race, he claims her glitching will eventually lead to the game being unplugged. [[spoiler:Turns out, he's right he doesn't want her to race, but is wrong with the outcome — because he [[{{Unperson}} deleted her code]] and erased everyone's memories so he can take over, and he doesn't want Vanellope racing because if she crosses the finish line, the game will reset, her glitching will be fixed, and all coding and memories will be restored]]. |
| 89 | [[/folder]] |
| 90 | |
| 91 | [[folder:Game Shows]] |
| 92 | * On ''Series/{{Taskmaster}}'' Series 11 Episode 7 "You've Got No Chutzpah", the contestants are tasked with running across some stepping stones to reach a gate, and every time they set off an alarm they are forced to restart. After dabbling with the colors of the stepping stones, the one team comes to the conclusion that the solution is to imitate the alarm for the duration of the task, yelling "WOO WOO WOO", and the other team comes to the conclusion that they need to say "red" each time they step on a stone, and both teams make it to the end without triggering the alarm. The ''real'' thing that triggers the alarm is either 7 seconds of silence or saying the letter T, which both teams correctly but accidentally did when they incorrectly solved the alarm. |
| 93 | [[/folder]] |
| 94 | |
| 95 | [[folder:Jokes]] |
| 96 | * There's an old Polish joke that's an example. During a field exercise, a sergeant stops his unit of NewMeat. |
| 97 | -->'''Sergeant:''' Hold it! Now, who can tell me in which direction are we marching?\ |
| 98 | '''Private:''' Sir, south, sir!\ |
| 99 | '''Sergeant:''' Fucking right! Now, tell the others how did you figure that out!\ |
| 100 | '''Private:''' Sir, it's getting warmer and warmer, sir! |
| 101 | * An old joke: Three old men go to the doctor for a checkup ([[FridgeLogic please don't ask why the doctor is giving all three men their checkup at the same time]]). Since they're getting on in years, the doctor decides to check their mental faculties as well. So he asks the first man, "What's three times three?" And the old man says, "273." So the doctor moves on to the second guy and asks the same question. "Tuesday," is the reply. Finally he asks the third old man. "9." "That's great!" says the doctor, "How'd you get to that answer?" "I subtracted 273 from Tuesday." |
| 102 | * A woman was asked, "If a car is traveling at 80 miles an hour, how long would it take the car to go 80 miles?" The woman makes a lengthy calculation, beginning with, "I run the mile in about nine minutes," as part of her calculation. She says a tire turns about 400 times in a mile. In the end, she says, "About 58 minutes," which is pretty close considering the factors she used to get there. |
| 103 | * Supposedly a man came to Andrew Jackson with a proposal to fund an expedition inside the HollowEarth, which failed because Jackson thought the Earth was flat. |
| 104 | * An old joke has a police captain quizzing three recruits representing an acceptable target (depending on the telling, and the joker's nationality, they could be Polish, Sikh, [[DumbBlonde blonde]], or something else) on how they would recognize a wanted man, by showing them a sketch of the suspect. The first two confidently claim that the perp would be easy to recognize because he only has one eye and one ear, respectively, which leads to the captain getting angrier and angrier as he repeatedly explains that the sketch is in profile. The third recruit studies the picture intently for a moment, and then deduces (correctly) that the suspect wears contact lenses. When the very impressed captain asks how the recruit was able to make such an astute deduction, he replies, "Easy. He can't wear normal glasses because he only has one eye and one ear." |
| 105 | * A guy is competing on ''Series/WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire'' and reaches the million-dollar question, that asks which bird from a selection of four doesn't build its own nest. The contestant phones one of his friends, who answers cuckoo. The contestant goes with cuckoo and wins the grand prize. After the show, he asks his friend how he knew, and the friend responds "because it lives in a clock, duh". |
| 106 | [[/folder]] |
| 107 | |
| 108 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 109 | * ''Literature/TheAdventuresOfTomSawyer'': Somebody is right when they suspected Indian Joe of being the murderer, but they were racist and thought it was because of his ethnicity. |
| 110 | * In the ''Literature/AlexCross'' book ''Along Came a Spider'', Alex's grandmother objects to his relationship with Jezzie Flanagan because Alex is black and Jezzie is white. [[spoiler: Unbeknownst to both Alex and his grandmother, Jezzie is responsible for the kidnapping and murder that Alex is investigating. After Jezzie's perfidy is exposed, Alex's grandmother notes that she cannot say 'I told you so' because she had not predicted this development.]] |
| 111 | * ''Literature/AngelaNicely'': In “Miss Skinner’s Wig!”, Maisie says that Angela was lying about Miss Skinner wearing a wig. She was right that Miss Skinner wasn’t wearing a wig (her hair was dyed), but Angela wasn’t lying; she was just mistaken. |
| 112 | * ''Literature/BewareOfChicken'': Jin intervenes to prevent Young Master Zang Li from coercing Meihua into his bed, and when Zang Li attacks him in outrage, Jin shrugs off his attack so easily (ie Zang Li ''breaks his fingers'' upon striking Jin) that he assumes the guy can't really be a Young Master of the powerful Shrouded Mountain sect, and arranges for him to be arrested as an impostor. What Jin doesn't realise is that his connection to the land has made him extraordinarily powerful; Zang Li really is a Young Master of the Shrouded Mountain, Jin is just far stronger than that. What Jin ''also'' doesn't realise is that the original Zang Li has been killed, and a demonic cultivator by the name of Lu Ban is PossessingADeadBody; he really is an impostor. |
| 113 | * In "The Winter Warriors", part of the AlternateHistory series ''Literature/TheBigOne'', admiral Brinkmann realizes that the German fleet is about to suffer a carrier strike when his recon planes are shot down by US carrier planes but manage to report the encounter and their position. While the US fleet ''is'' launching a carrier strike on the German fleet, what Brinkmann's scouts found was a hunter-killer group (two light carriers plus destroyers, that look for U-bootes to destroy them), while the actual carrier ''groups'' (five of them, each counting five fleet carriers) are in a completely different position. |
| 114 | * The ever-suspicious Efficient Baxter from Creator/PGWodehouse's ''Literature/BlandingsCastle'' saga frequently takes the right course of action after drawing the wrong conclusion. For instance, he'll assume two characters are accomplices helping one another steal the same object, when in reality they're ''rivals'' trying to steal the same object, thieves-for-hire unaware that they were hired by the same employer, or unrelated thieves who don't decide to team up until Baxter has already marked them out as conspirators. |
| 115 | * ''Literature/TheCemeteriesOfAmalo'': ''The Grief of the Stones'' has Thara investigate the murder of an aristocrat who got a threatening note saying to stop doing something. One of her frenemies claims the killers are a conspiracy made up of the city's photographers, who the marquise wanted to ban because several of them were making porn. Thara thinks the man's logic is "insane". The actual culprit is someone completely different, but someone connected to one of the city's photographers ''did'' send the threatening note, [[spoiler:along with a photo of the marquise's secretary from when she'd been a nude model, causing the panicked secretary to kill the marquise so she wouldn't tell everyone about the photo. So a photographer is partially responsible for the marquise's murder, but didn't kill her directly to stop her crusade like the frenemy thinks.]] |
| 116 | * ''Literature/{{Circleverse}}'': In Tris' ''Literature/TheCircleOpens'' book, ''Shatterglass'', the people of Tharios strongly believe that dead bodies cause pollution. Bodies and places where death has occurred are cleansed with powerful magic (which causes problems, as it erases evidence the police need to find a serial killer). When questioned, one citizen says that such cleansing kept Tharios safe from a plague many years ago. However, they believe that the contamination is ''spiritual'' rather than pathogenic. |
| 117 | * ''Literature/ClariceBean'': Played with in "Don't Look Now": |
| 118 | ** Played straight when Clarice [[OutOfContextEavesdropping overhears a relative talking on the phone]] about "more space" and "another bathroom", then sees her mother looking on the real estate, and concludes that she and her family will be moving house. She is right that ''someone'' is moving house, but it's actually her friend Betty, not herself. |
| 119 | ** Subverted when, after she learns that Betty is the one who's moving and Clarice's house is just being renovated, she notices her parents being uncharacteristically grumpy and arguing despite usually getting along well. Seeing as she'd previously thought Betty's parents were getting a divorce, but they were moving house instead, and she'd also previously thought she was moving house, she then concludes that ''her'' parents must be getting a divorce, but she's wrong -- nobody is getting a divorce. |
| 120 | * In ''Literature/ADayOfFallenNight'', the worshippers of the haithwood trees call Saint Galian a liar and doubt the claim that his descendants, the Berethnet queens, have anything to do with keeping the Nameless One [[SealedEvilInACan bound in the ocean]]. It's known from ''Literature/ThePrioryOfTheOrangeTree'' that they're right (and it's quite openly discussed by characters outside Inys). However, the haithwood worshipper's object of veneration is the "lady of the hawthorn," a.k.a. Kalyba, the immortal sorceress who does pretty much nothing but cause problems and eventually sides with the Nameless One. Furthermore, the haithwood worshippers see her as a goddess and are trying to call her back with secret rites. Being immortal but ''not'' a goddess, Kalyba is busy traveling the world on schemes of her own and has no idea that they're doing this. |
| 121 | * In the novel ''Literature/TheDayOfTheJackal'', the manhunt for hitman the Jackal starts with the police discovering his real identity, Englishman Charles Calthrop. It works, but in the epilogue the real Charles Calthrop turns up alive and well, completely unconnected. |
| 122 | * ''Literature/TheDaySantaStoppedBelievingInHarold'': Santa is correct that Harold's dad is the one who leaves his snacks out. However, he thinks it's because Harold doesn't exist, which he does. |
| 123 | * ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'': |
| 124 | ** In one book, three-year-old Manny Heffley draws a picture of two people arguing and a third, smaller person crying with ears covered. His parents correctly assume that the picture is of himself and two family members and depicts a real argument, but they think it's a drawing of an argument they had, when actually it's an argument his older brothers Rodrick and Greg had over the TV remote. |
| 125 | ** In ''Cabin Fever'', Greg berates [[GenkiGuy Rowley]] for skipping. Rowley thinks that Greg is [[GreenEyedMonster jealous]] of him for not being able to skip, but Greg actually just thinks skipping looks stupid. However, Rowley ''was'' right in the assumption that Greg can't skip. |
| 126 | ** In ''Dog Days'', when Greg is made to read ''Literature/CharlottesWeb'', he is correct that [[DeathByNewberyMedal someone will die because it's a "classic"]], but he thinks that the dead character will be either [[DeathOfAChild the girl]] (Fern) or the pig (Wilbur). [[spoiler:The actual character who dies is the eponymous Charlotte, and she's a spider.]] |
| 127 | ** In ''Rodrick Rules'', Manny apologises to Greg for breaking his gaming device by making him [[CrappyHomemadeGift a tinfoil ball with toothpicks sticking out]]. Greg thinks that if he doesn't throw the ball away soon, he will end up [[PainToTheAss sitting on it]]. He's right that ''somebody'' will end up sitting on it, but it turns out to be Rowley instead. |
| 128 | * This is [[Literature/DirkGentlysHolisticDetectiveAgency Dirk Gently]]'s standard operating procedure; it reaches its apex in the second book, when he spontaneously decides his client's death is someone else's fault simply so he can stop feeling guilty about it. It turns out to be directly her fault. |
| 129 | * ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': |
| 130 | ** In ''Literature/{{Jingo}}'', there's a FramingTheGuiltyParty of the "plant obvious clues against yourself to make it appear a frame" type, where the evidence they find is so stereotypically Klatchian that it's laughable. [[ThoseTwoGuys Colon and Nobby]], naturally, conclude that since the evidence points to Klatchians, it must be Klatchians. Vimes, however, takes the "quality" of the evidence to mean someone in Ankh-Morpork is doing a bad job of framing the Klatchians for the attack. [[spoiler:Later, he finds out [[KansasCityShuffle it was Klatchians behind it, who deliberately faked the frame up because they knew Vimes would "see right through it".]]]] |
| 131 | ** In the science sections of ''Literature/TheScienceOfDiscworld IV: Judgement Day'', there's a footnote which humorously "explains" how you get from the Schrödinger equation to UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat by combining two versions of the equation, one in which Ψ=A (for "alive") and one in which Ψ=D (for "dead"), and showing this leads to an equation where A=D. ''Any'' equation would do that, since you're starting by assuming A and D both equal Ψ. |
| 132 | * ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': In ''Literature/GhostStory'', Daniel and Butters dress up in grey cloaks to pose as Wardens and confront Aristides the warlock. Aristides sees through their disguises right away because neither is wearing one of the silver swords Wardens are famous for. However the swords, while iconic, are not part of the official uniform of the Wardens, and the Wardens had lost the capability of producing their iconic swords several years prior, meaning newer Wardens actually wouldn't have them. Of course the Wardens aren't exactly publicly announcing that fact, so for some without extensive knowledge like Aristedes it becomes a dead giveaway. |
| 133 | ** Ebenezar [=McCoy=] is very alarmed when he sees Harry hanging around with White Court vampire Thomas Raith, and the only explanation Harry can give is, "He's different, just trust me!" Which, as Ebenezar notes, is what abuse victims always say. While in this case it's true that Thomas is different from other White Court vampires in that he's genuinely moral (and Harry's half-brother), Ebenezar doesn't know actually that (and given that the rest of the White Court are literally inhuman monsters whose shtick is mind-bending, he's not wrong to be suspicious either). |
| 134 | * In ''Earth Children are Weird'', Fox turns out to be right that aliens are nearby. However, he thinks it's because of a shadow and a large hole he thought was a footprint. Actually, the shadow is [[ScaryShadowFakeout of a dog]] and the hole is for a swimming pool; the aliens are actually impersonating Dana's parents. |
| 135 | * Discussed in "The Fire Rose", one of the ''Literature/ElementalMasters'' stories by Creator/MercedesLackey as a warning from a teacher to a student against trusting the information in old grimoires too much, even if a grimoire is genuinely useful for learning magic. The example given is that one such old grimoire states that to free a town of plague, one must first free it of rats, which is of course true. The problem is that the grimoire's writer believed that the reason for this was because both plague and rats fall under the auspices of the Moon, so the rats were spreading plague by bringing the influence of the Moon into people's houses. |
| 136 | * One ''Literature/EncyclopediaBrown'' mystery had Brown and Sally Kimball deduce that one of three men had an opportunity to call in a bomb scare at the left-handers convention. The culprit is, naturally, determined to be right-handed. The girl who hired them says that any of the suspects could have done it because they're "strange". She suggests the second one who comes under suspicion is strange because his left ear is higher than his right. Sally looks at the guy and tells her that it's actually an optical illusion because his left sideburn is longer than his right. He turns out to be the culprit, but Encyclopedia determines this because right-handed men have longer left sideburns due to not being able to reach it as well. The girl was right to suspect him because of his longer sideburn, but wrong in that he was the culprit because he was "strange". |
| 137 | * ''Literature/TheExilesViolin'': Clay is suspicious of [[spoiler: Gunslinger]] because he sees the man as a rival for Jacquie's affection, instead of genuinely believing him to be untrustworthy. [[spoiler: Gunslinger is TheMole.]] |
| 138 | * ''Literature/TheFallenWorld'' starts off with Alexandra getting kidnapped because of her RegeneratingMana and her adventuring party is captured and left with the mercenaries the Order hired to do it. Her former party wonders what happened to her but assumes she is still alive because she is worthless dead. While she is still alive, the Order tried to sacrifice Alexandra to steal her RegeneratingMana and the only reason she survived is because a third party interfered. Her kidnappers believe her to be dead. |
| 139 | * In ''Literature/FoucaultsPendulum'' during a discussion on the "four types of people in the world", this principle is lampshaded as the province of 'Morons'. |
| 140 | * In the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' series: |
| 141 | ** The climax of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone'' sees the Golden Trio going through the trapdoor guarded by Hagrid's pet three-headed dog to try to beat Snape to the Stone, which they believe Snape is trying to steal. Yes, the Stone ''is'' in danger of being stolen, but [[spoiler:what Harry discovers at the end of the road is one of the first indicators that he and Snape were on the same side all along]]. |
| 142 | ** ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'' has one by way of sarcasm: the Trio are trying to figure out why someone named Tom Riddle got an award fifty years ago, and Ron suggests he [[spoiler:killed Myrtle, an annoying ghost]]. Turns out he ''did'' do that, though the award was, ironically, for supposedly [[spoiler:catching Myrtle's killer]]. One fan guide even noted "Ron is usually wrong, unless he's joking." |
| 143 | ** In the same book, Dobby, a [[SlaveRace house-elf]], tries to convince Harry not to come back to Hogwarts, claiming it will put him in great danger; he later tries to force Harry to go home. Ron suggests that Dobby belongs to Harry's rival, Draco Malfoy, and is trying to trick him. It turns out that Dobby ''does'' belong to the Malfoy family, but it wasn't at their behest that he was trying to keep Harry out of Hogwarts -- he had found out about the danger due to his service to the Malfoys, and was genuinely trying to protect Harry from it. |
| 144 | *** Also, the trio's suspicions that a Malfoy was involved with the Chamber opening is correct - just that they had suspected the wrong Malfoy. Draco was innocent, but his father Lucius was part of the plot. |
| 145 | ** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban,'' Harry anonymously receives a very expensive FlyingBroomstick for Christmas. Hermione believes that it's from Sirius Black, the escaped convict who is believed to be trying to kill Harry, and has it checked for curses. [[spoiler:It turns out Sirius ''was'' the one who gave Harry the broom, just not with any ulterior motives; he was just trying to give his godson a nice present after missing over a decade of birthdays and Christmases.]] |
| 146 | ** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire'', Harry and Ron speculate that Rita Skeeter is getting her information by bugging them, i.e. using electronic surveillance devices to listen in. Hermione points out that electrical devices don't work around Hogwarts. Later on, however, she deduces that Rita was indeed bugging them- [[spoiler: she's a beetle [[VoluntaryShapeshifting animagus]], and she's using that form to get close to events incognito and listen in.]] |
| 147 | *** Hermione forming S.P.E.W during the same book. While most everyone she talks to agree that House Elves do need to be well treated, they see her as taking things to far in trying to set them all free whether they like it or not. In short, she's right, but she doesn't listen to the people she's actually trying to help. |
| 148 | ** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix'' Luna believes Sirius is innocent [[ConspiracyTheorist because he's just the alter ego of the musician Stubby Boardman]], who happened to have an alibi for the crime Sirius was accused of committing. Sirius is innocent but he's not a celebrity's alter ego. |
| 149 | ** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'', Hermione is firmly convinced that there must be something sinister about Harry's book, though mostly due to being jealous of Harry outshining her in Potions class. [[spoiler:Then the Sectumsempra incident happens where Harry almost kills Draco, and she starts gloating about it, taking it as proof.]] |
| 150 | ** In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows'': |
| 151 | *** [[spoiler: Voldemort assumes that Harry is going to sacrifice himself because he doesn't want to see the others die around him. While that technically is true, there is another factor at play; Harry has to let Voldemort kill him, so the part of Voldemort's soul inside him would be destroyed. At the same time, Harry is sacrificing himself for the other students ''[[ChekhovsGun the same way his mother did for him.]]'']] |
| 152 | *** Around the middle of the story, Voldemort steals the elder wand, the most powerful wand in all existence, from Dumbledore's tomb..but his joy does not last long, as the wand does not seem to be any more powerful than his previous one. After some contemplation, he realizes this must be because the elder wand's master is the one who neutralized its previous, which Voldemort concludes must be Snape since he killed Albus Dumbledore. While Voldemort was correct about why the wand was not living up to its full potential, what he ''didn't'' know was that before Snape killed Dumbledore, Draco Malfoy had disarmed him, and Malfoy had recently been disarmed by Harry, and...well, you get the picture. |
| 153 | *** During the final battle, Voldemort assumes that the Hogwarts defenders are all fighting and dying to protect Harry because the boy asked them to do so, his reasoning being that any rational person would sacrifice everyone they know rather than die themselves. While he is correct that they are all fighting and dying at Harry's request, it is so he can get enough time to [[spoiler:destroy the diadem Horcrux and then commit suicide via Voldemort and save everyone else, not to mention the fact that they would've fought anyway.]] This is lampshaded numerous times, as Voldemort [[EvilCannotComprehendGood cannot understand acts of love, loyalty, or friendship]]. |
| 154 | * In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' book ''At All Costs'', when [[spoiler:President Pritchart]] is seeking a face-to-face summit with Queen Elizabeth III of Manticore in order to negotiate [[spoiler:a peace treaty]], [[spoiler:Theisman]] recommends that she specifically request that Honor Harrington be present for several reasons, including that "all reports indicate she has a rather uncanny ability to tell when people are lying to her." When [[spoiler:Mike Henke]] delivers the summit proposal on [[spoiler:Pritchart]]'s behalf, however, Honor assumes that the LivingLieDetector being invited is ''[[TheEmpath the treecats Ariel and Nimitz.]]'' |
| 155 | * In the ''Literature/JackReacher'' novel ''The Enemy'', Major Reacher arrests a general and some subordinates for murder. His vague statements about evidence convince them that [[spoiler: he knows about their massive conspiracy to murder numerous military officers, and fear they stumbled on their secret papers; in fact, he's arresting them for a LoveTriangle gone horribly wrong and hasn't found the papers]]. Reacher was confused about why they surrendered so easily. |
| 156 | * ''Literature/JaineAustenMysteries'': |
| 157 | ** In ''The PMS Murder'' a new resident moves to the retirement community Jaine's parents live in. Her father Hank suspects him of being a SerialKiller known as "The Hugo Boss Strangler" and sets out to prove it. The reverend, of course is not The Hugo Boss Strangler... [[spoiler:but he is a drug dealer and a con man.]] |
| 158 | ** When Jaine's scuba tank hose is cut in ''Killer Cruise'', Leona figures it was a local who did it because [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain "they're hot-blooded Latins".]][[note]]This cruise is one to Mexico.[[/note]] [[spoiler:It's revealed it ''was'' a local, but that was because Emily paid him off to do it.]] |
| 159 | ** In ''Murder Gets a Makeover'', Lance believes his co-worker Sven Gustafson is the one who killed Bebe, as she used to be his client at Neiman Marcus before she moved onto Lance. He gets this from him acting nervous when going into the stock room and having a twin brother [[TwinSwitch who could have made it look like he was on a trip to Oslo]] at the time of the murder. Sven isn't the murderer, but he has been stealing shoes from Neiman Marcus to sell on the Oslo black market. |
| 160 | * ''Literature/KillingTime:'' Tim’s files on all of the town big shots are the reason that he’s being targeted for murder, not out of an attempt to keep the reform movement from getting them, but because Chief Hacrum ''wants'' to give them to the reformers to save his own skin. After killing Tim, he'll have an excuse to "confiscate" his files. |
| 161 | * In ''The Leaky Establishment'' by Creator/DavidLangford, Tappen has a EurekaMoment near the end when he connects [[spoiler: the surprisingly high radioactivity of Roger Pell's home-made whiskey]] with a few other pieces of circumstantial evidence to conclude, correctly, that [[spoiler: Pell has been pinching plutonium from work to create a nuclear reactor under his house]]. However, when he explains his chain of reasoning to Pell, Pell replies that [[spoiler: the whiskey is carefully shielded from the reactor, but may have been made with pure ethanol stolen from a lab near the nuclear fuels store]]. |
| 162 | * ''Behemoth'', the second book in the ''Literature/{{Leviathan}}'' series, has one moment where Prince Alek's bodyguard Bauer, believes several soldiers searching the Café they are in are looking for him, seeing as the entire Austrian military and the German military are after Alek. Alek dismisses Bauer's theory, on account of the fact that they seem to be using a photograph as a reference for whoever they are after, and no painting or photograph was ever taken of Alek. Just as Alek tells Bauer this, one of the soldiers stops and looks directly... not at Alek, but at ''Bauer'', and Alek realises that a photograph of Bauer would have been fairly easy to obtain. |
| 163 | * In ''Literature/MagicKingdomForSaleSold'', Ben is initially convinced that the advert to purchase a magic kingdom is a scam for the obvious reason. He eventually learns that it is a scam -- not because the kingdom doesn't exist, but because it's beset by enemies and what he's bought is less "permanent vacation to fairyland" and more "full time job that will kill him if he doesn't do it exactly right". Each time the seller simply waits for the new king to be killed and puts it back on the market. |
| 164 | * ''Literature/TheManyLivesOfStephenLeeds'': Audrey believes that she's a hallucination because she's crazy, regardless of the fact that she actually ''is'' a hallucination. |
| 165 | * Marsh in ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' infiltrates the [[CorruptChurch Steel Ministry]] with the BoringButPractical route of joining as a bottom-rung acolyte, fading into the background, and sending back whatever information he can to LaResistance. Marsh is the best choice because he's not only disinclined towards fame, he spent his entire adult life illegally learning whatever he could about the Ministry. His primary concern is that since he skipped the five-year training and doesn't know what acolytes are supposed to know, he'll stand out for his ignorance. As it turns out, the five-year training isn't rigorous, and he stands out because he knows ''more'' than the average recruit. Later, he realizes that [[TheDreaded Inquisitors]] are taking an interest in him, and thinks that it's because they found out he was a spy. [[spoiler:Actually, they were impressed with him, and were trying to recruit him]]. |
| 166 | * At the end of the first year, Catarina Claes from ''Literature/MyNextLifeAsAVillainessAllRoutesLeadToDoom'' learns that Maria, her friend and the protagonist of the Otome game ''Fortune Lover'', isn't romancing any of the boys. Since [[WrongGenreSavvy she still believes she is the game's villainess]], she thinks that Maria has taken the "friendship route" with everyone, rather than [[ObliviousToLove Maria having a crush on Catarina instead]]. |
| 167 | * In ''Literature/TheNameOfTheRose'' the Literature/SherlockHolmes {{expy}} theorizes that the killer is copying a pattern from the Book of Revelation. In fact, [[spoiler:the initial pattern was a coincidence, and the murderer maintained the pattern as misdirection once the detective noticed it]]. |
| 168 | ** This is also a ShoutOut to "Death and the Compass" by Creator/JorgeLuisBorges, where the murderer [[spoiler:uses the detective's deduced pattern to lure the detective to a specific place]]. |
| 169 | * In ''Literature/NorthangerAbbey'', Catherine feels uneasy around General Tilney and follows her Gothic lit sensibilities, deciding that he probably murdered Mrs. Tilney and his strange behavior is due to this crime. Henry Tilney catches her snooping around his mother's old rooms and firmly disabuses her of the notion, and Catherine resolves not to let her thinking be guided by Gothic novels anymore. Then the General tosses her out of the house for no apparent reason. It turns out Catherine ''was'' right to mistrust him; in hindsight she realizes that his politeness was a sham and he only encouraged her match with Henry because he thought she was rich. |
| 170 | * ''Creator/PatrickMcManus'': In "The Huckleberry Murders" local woman Mage Poulsen accuses her ex-husbands ranch foreman of murdering and robbing him after he disappears. The foreman claims her ex-husband is just on a long vacation. It turns out that he really is on vacation, but that the foreman ''has'' been cashing in/stealing his social security checks, and is involved in the murder of several local marijuana growers he'd hired because YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness. |
| 171 | * In the short story "[[https://www.gutenberg.org/files/29789/29789-h/29789-h.htm Poppa Needs Shorts]]", a young boy deliberately causes a short-circuit which saves his father's life. His family wonders if he's a genius, but the narration makes it clear that the boy had no idea how electricity works - he had simply pieced together a bunch of "facts" that he didn't actually understand, and then decided on a course of action that just happened to be correct. |
| 172 | * Invoked in the ''Literature/RedDwarf'' novel ''Last Human'' regarding [[spoiler:the arrest of Lister's alternate self; for various reasons, the courts that sentenced him were trying to 'arrest' the innocent, so they only arrested the alternate Lister on smuggling charges that they knew he hadn't committed even though he was genuinely guilty of murdering the rest of the alternate ''Red Dwarf'' crew]]. |
| 173 | * In the ''Literature/{{Relativity}}'' short story "In Search of the Liber Seed", Michael reassures his friends that the howling they hear in the woods can't possibly be a werewolf, because werewolves only come out at night. |
| 174 | * ''Literature/RoysBedoys'': In “Don’t Gossip, Roys Bedoys!”, Roys thinks Wen is poor because she always wears the same clothes. Later stories reveal that she ''is'' poor, but everyone in the whole series wears the same clothes. |
| 175 | * ''Literature/TheScholomance'': El is completely correct that Orion was born in response to the year of the Scholomance where all the students were [[spoiler:supposedly]] murdered by a band of maleficers. [[spoiler:Because they were actually sacrificed to turn Orion into a wizard/maw-mouth LivingWeapon. And there was no band of maleficers--or if there were, they were always intended to be, and were, disposed of by the mastermind: Ophelia, Orion's mother]]. Additionally, she is also completely correct that she was born in response to his birth. [[spoiler:The universe outright engineered her birth and gave her extraordinary magical power so she would be in position to stop him from destroying the world when the time came]]. |
| 176 | * In ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'', Monty correctly realizes that "Stefano" is an imposter and should not go with him and the Baudelaires to Peru. However, he believes that Stefano is a spy from the Herpetelogical Society trying to learn about his new discovery, when he's actually [[BigBad Count Olaf]] and does not care in the slightest about Monty's discoveries. The series gives the Baudelaires an extra layer of this: they conspire with Monty to plot against "Stefano", but (unlike in the book and film) they never realize that Monty doesn't realize Stefano is Olaf. |
| 177 | * ''Literature/ShadowOfTheConqueror'': |
| 178 | ** When Daylen rescues dozens of girls who'd been kidnapped [[SexSlave to be sold into sexual slavery]], Sain initially thinks that Daylen is one of the slavers, and calls him "rapist scum". This hits a little too close to home for [[TheAtoner Daylen]], who [[OffhandBackhand backhands him]]. |
| 179 | ** Cueseg is initially puzzled by [[ParalyzingFearOfSexuality Lyrah's embarrassment]], as he assumes a woman her age must have had plenty of sex in her youth. [[spoiler: It's later revealed in a CerebusCallback that she was kidnapped when she was fourteen and raped an estimated ''thirty'' times.]] |
| 180 | * ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': |
| 181 | ** When King Robert wants to make Jaime Lannister the Warden of the East, Eddard Stark is suspicious of him; he remembers seeing Jaime [[SlouchOfVillainy slouched on the Iron Throne]] after betraying and killing [[TheCaligula Mad King Aerys]], and takes this as evidence of Jaime wanting the throne for himself. Robert jokes that Jaime was probably just tired and needed a place to sit... and is completely correct.[[note]]Though this loses some of its possible accuracy with the fact that, unlike in the TV show, the Iron Throne in the books is far more massive - a 30-foot mess that requires a climb equivalent to 2-3 floors worth of stairs to actually get to the seat; if he was REALLY exhausted, it seems more likely Jaime would have sat on the steps, if not the ground, rather than climb all the way up.[[/note]] |
| 182 | ** In book 4, Lord Orton Merryweather recommends Ser Bonnifer Hasty be given the job of administering to the Riverlands and returning peace to the war torn area. Jaime, who knows that Lord Merryweather is [[NumberTwoForBrains an idiot]], thinks that Merryweather probably made the choice for no more reason than due to Hasty's nickname "The Good" and the fact that Hasty has a light connection to Merryweather's family, as Hasty served Merryweather's grandfather. Nonetheless, Jaime reflects that it's likely to be an excellent choice: Hasty is a serious, dutiful man committed to ruling fairly, (albeit it in a [[NoSenseOfHumor humorless]] and [[TheFundamentalist overly religious]] way) and as Hasty isn't from the area and has no major family ties to any of the various factions, he isn't likely to unfairly favor any particular side among the fractious local lords or to be accused of doing so. |
| 183 | ** Lady Barbrey Dustin is 100% convinced that maesters are not the neutral players in the political game that they claim to be. She points out how all their useful functions as servators, such as reading, writing, overseeing the ravens and healing, are specifically designed to lull Lords into not questioning the motives behind the advice they give. All so that the Citadel may uncontestedly rule from the shadows, puppeteers of all who dance on their strings. Yes... But, seriously... no. They really aren't completely neutral and many ''do'' have agendas... Which are mostly cultural or personal ones, not necessarily institutional or familial ones. See, they don't kid about wanting to serve and educate, but there are political factions within the Citadel divided on how best to do that, and individual maesters can fall into any camp with differing degrees and methods of active participation in wider society. Ruling from the shadows isn't on the table as a concerted, overriding consensus agenda, however. Every initiate of the Citadel we get much insight of, from the surrogate parent of Maester Cressen, the sleazy Maester Pycelle, the dedicatedly heretical ex-maester Qyburn to the sincerely devoted Maester Luwin and others... they all have ''many'' reasons behind the biases they act on; mostly personal ones. |
| 184 | * ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'': In ''Literature/ANewDawn'', ConspiracyTheorist Skelly believes that the Clone Wars were orchestrated by the various [[MegaCorp Mega-Corps]] solely to increase their profit margins. Well, the Clone Wars ''were'' orchestrated, and those mega-corporations ''were'' engaging in war profiteering, but he doesn't realize that the Emperor was the one actually responsible. |
| 185 | * ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'': |
| 186 | ** In ''[[Literature/XWingSeries Isard's Revenge]]'', smuggler Talon Karrde visits the ''Errant Venture'', the converted Star Destroyer belonging to ex-smuggler Booster Terrik. Terrik believes the visit is regarding one of Karrde's associates, Aves, getting his own ship. Terrik is absolutely correct about Aves getting a new ship (and also correctly identifying the ship he's getting), even spelling out his line of logic (which is partly based on the fact that Karrde came to his ship). Karrde's visit, however, has nothing to do with Aves or his new ship; instead, it concerns [[spoiler:two functional astromechs from X-wings presumed destroyed, belonging to two people presumed dead. Specifically, the astromechs belonging to Wedge Antilles and Corran Horn]]. Karrde even invokes the name of the trope, saying, "This is why you're dangerous, Booster, you're right for all the wrong reasons." |
| 187 | ** Grand Admiral Thrawn of ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'' makes a few of these. Thrawn's TheChessmaster and a ManipulativeBastard who is often [[MagnificentBastard magnificent]], and usually he's spectacular at gauging [[BatmanGambit what any given individual will do in response to the situation]]. As the trilogy goes on and unforeseen events crop up with more regularity he starts being wrong about the ''why'', but still right—until the end, when he's not. The main issue (besides overestimating the abilities and sanity of his allies) is that he's completely unaware that [[spoiler: Luke and Leia are Darth Vader's children]]; since the things he doesn't predict lead almost entirely from that, he had no way of predicting them. |
| 188 | ** In ''Literature/DarkLordTheRiseOfDarthVader'', after Jedi Knights Shryne, Starstone, and Chatak escape Order 66, they receive a signal recalling them to the Jedi Temple. Starstone correctly speculates that ''all'' of the clones have turned on the Jedi, but thinks it's because they're in league with Count Dooku and the Separatists. They aren't, but their boss is. |
| 189 | ** In the ''Literature/XWingSeries'', Elassar Targon, the new Wraith Squadron pilot, is noted to be very superstitious. When Face is conducting a mission briefing involving a mock-up of the Millennium Falcon piloted by Wedge and Chewbacca which will serve as a decoy, fellow pilot Runt sneezes. Elassar sees this as a bad omen and becomes convinced there's something wrong and the mission is jinxed. He's right, but it has nothing to do with jinxes and everything to do with [[spoiler:Wedge not knowing how to speak Wookiee]]. |
| 190 | * In ''The Symposium'', Plato says that grown men going after young boys should be illegalized...because the man could very well be wasting his prospects. He thought that you wouldn't know at all what you'd be getting. |
| 191 | * ''Literature/TeenPowerInc'': In several books, the main cast have correct concerns and suspicions that are triggered for the wrong reasons. |
| 192 | ** In ''Beware the Gingerbread House'', [[spoiler:Sunny eventually accepts that her fear and distrust of Mrs. Crumb stem from Crumb reminding her of a fairytale character who her father read her bedtime stories about right before a difficult time in her life. Mrs. Crumb is an organized crime figure, though.]] |
| 193 | ** In ''The Missing Millionaire'', the gang finds a note at a motel which says “help us” and has a winning lottery number written on it, causing them to assume the lottery winner has been kidnapped and is being held prisoner at the motel by someone who wants to steal the money. [[spoiler:Someone is being held prisoner and questioned about hidden money, but it has nothing to do with the lottery ticket. The note wasn’t a cry for help, but just the lottery winner trying to pick numbers that represented letters in the alphabet that formed a coherent phrase in the hopes that it would turn out lucky, which it did]]. |
| 194 | ** In ''Saint Elmo's Fire'', the gang think that a pair of creepy caretakers are holding Elmo's great-aunt hostage and hurting her to make her act normal due to how she has a bruised eye and always seems nervous. [[spoiler:"She" is nervous because she is a man in disguise who knows his deception could fall apart. The bruise is from when the real aunt fought back against him while he and the supposed caretakers were kidnapping her]]. |
| 195 | * ''Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium'': |
| 196 | ** In Creator/JRRTolkien's ''Literature/UnfinishedTalesOfNumenorAndMiddleEarth'' there is a sequence describing a meeting of the White Council, where Saruman becomes irritated over Gandalf's smoking, and Gandalf responds by praising the halfling's herb and blowing small smoke rings through a large one. It's almost comical how Saruman reads layers upon layers of hidden meanings into this gesture, coming to the conclusion that Gandalf's visits into the Shire and his smoking of pipeweed somehow relate to a secret plot involving the One Ring, and hobbits must somehow be involved with the matter. He proceeds to send spies across the Shire and starts to secretly smoke pipeweed himself to discover Gandalf's secret, to no avail. The kicker is that Gandalf was unaware that Bilbo's old ring was the One Ring at the time, and the smoke rings had absolutely no hidden meaning behind them--and that if he ''had'' known what was on Sauruman's mind, he would have avoided blowing smoke-rings at all. |
| 197 | ** ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'': Samwise protests when Sméagol offers to serve as Frodo's guide to Mordor, suspecting that Sméagol is still Gollum, and therefore still evil. He's technically correct, but he's also unfair: [[ReformedButRejected Sméagol thought of changing his ways]], actually succeeded in banishing his Gollum persona for a time, ''saved Frodo's life'', and turned evil again only because he believed Frodo and Sam to have betrayed him. |
| 198 | ** In a more comedic example of this, when Pippin goes to Minas Tirith, riding alongside Gandalf on Shadowfax, the people of the city begin excitedly exchanging rumors about who he must be to ride with the wizard, with the eventual idea settling on him being a great prince among the halflings there on important royal business to pledge an army the kingdom's service. This is, of course, wild speculation with no relation whatsoever to Pippin's mission, but Pippin is indeed a form of hobbit royalty. Specifically, as a Took, his family inherited the title of Thain of the Shire, a hereditary position meant to serve as a commander of the armed forces. The position [[AuthorityInNameOnly has no actual power anymore]], since the Shire hasn't had or needed a military in centuries, but it does mean that Pippin is about as close to a prince as you'd be likely to find there. Several other rumors being thrown around at Pippin's arrival, such as that he would lead an army of halflings (which happened at the Battle of Bywater) or that the Rohirrim would have halflings riding with them (Pippin's friend Merry did just that) also end up being true, albeit not at all in the fashion that they'd have imagined. |
| 199 | * ''Literature/TrappedInADatingSimTheWorldOfOtomeGamesIsToughForMobs'': After the boys spend her savings for the umpteenth time during the Alzer Republic arc, Marie kicks them out of the house for the remainder of the season and tells them to compete to earn money and that the one who brings her back the most at the end of summer will receive her favor. Julius wins by accident because he ''actually brings her money'': like the others, he wrongly inferred that she meant "buy me presents with the money you earn", but he couldn't decide what present to buy so he just gave her the cash. |
| 200 | * ''Literature/TheTravelersGate'': People assume Kai is insane because he talks to his dolls. Except his dolls really are intelligent, prescient, and always give good advice. Kai is insane because he is ''obsessed'' with his dolls. They hate him and constantly insult him, but he never notices. |
| 201 | * ''Literature/WaxAndWayne'': When the crew is searching for ''Literature/TheBandsOfMourning'' in a TempleOfDoom, and discovers that the treasure had been stolen long ago, everyone looks at [[StickyFingers Wayne]] suspiciously out of habit. Turns out that he did nab the Treasure; before entering, he stole a valuable chunk of aluminum off a statue, not knowing that the "Bands" were given a misleading name... |
| 202 | * A story in ''Sideways Stories from Literature/WaysideSchool'' has a character who always comes up with the correct number when counting, albeit by counting completely random numbers (example: "three, ten, nineteen, sixty-four, five. The answer is five!"), lampshaded by the teacher's odd reaction (nodding, but saying "No"). When told to count "one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten", he takes it to LiteralGenie-level conclusions and counts ''all ten numbers'' regardless of the number of objects he's attempting to count, giving him "ten" for everything, resulting in him only counting right when he counts wrong and vice-versa, [[YourHeadASplode or something]]. In a later book, the same character multiplies five times twelve by writing the number five on a piece of paper and tearing it into twelve pieces. He gets the right answer too. The book [[LampshadeHanging helpfully explains]] that no one quite understood how his math worked. |
| 203 | * In the ''Literature/WildCards'' novel ''Inside Straight'', Hardhat deduces that Noel Matthews's hidden superpower is shapeshifting because Noel was able to [[AttractiveBentGender pass as an attractive woman]] during the exercise, and Hardhat would rather deal with ShapeshiftingSquick than accept the UnsettlingGenderReveal. [[spoiler:Noel really is a shapeshifter but was not in fact in a female form during the exercise.]] When informed of some of the facts, Hardhat drops his theory. |
| 204 | * ''Literature/{{Worm}}'': A minor moment in the final chapters, where Tattletale (whose superpower is basically a SherlockScan combined with BatDeduction) is trying to manipulate Lung (a former enemy with several reasons to hate them) to fight with them. She brings up the Yàngbǎn, a group of Chinese parahumans, as one enemy they're going to have to fight, apparently hoping that the prospect of combating such a powerful group would appeal to Lung's BloodKnight tendencies. Lung agrees without any resistance, surprising her. What Tattletale didn't know is that the Yàngbǎn had previously held Lung prisoner and attempted to brainwash him, so he hates them ''far'' more than he does the Undersiders. Tattletale then complains about getting credit for brilliant insights she didn't actually have. |
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| 206 | |
| 207 | [[folder:Other]] |
| 208 | * In ''Professor Stewart's Cabinet of Mathematical Curiosities'', he uses the product 1/4 X 8/5 = 18/45 as an example of the result being right (18/45 can be simplified to 2/5, the correct answer), but the methodology being completely wrong. |
| 209 | ** A similar idea is to simplify the fraction 16/64 by cancelling out the 6s to leave 1/4, which again just happens to be the correct answer. |
| 210 | *** 19/95, 26/65 and 49/98 are other options. |
| 211 | * On an episode of the Newlywed Game, a woman was asked how many decades old her mother-in-law was. The woman smiled and said, "10," getting a laugh from the audience. When the host asked the husband how many decades old his mother was, he said, "I don't know what that is, but my mother is 44. If there are four years in a decade, she's 10 decades." |
| 212 | ** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint If there are four years in a decade, wouldn't a 44-year-old woman be 11 decades?]] |
| 213 | * The myth of Icarus holds that his wings, made of wax, evaporated in proximity to the sun. As IcarusAllusion indicates, higher altitude would actually mean a reduction in temperature and therefore cause the wax to become brittle and shatter. Either way, Icarus doesn't make it out alive. |
| 214 | [[/folder]] |
| 215 | |
| 216 | [[folder:Theatre]] |
| 217 | * In ''Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors'', Mr. Mushnik correctly deduces that it was Seymour who murdered the sadistic dentist Orin Scrivello. He assumes he did it [[MurderTheHypotenuse in order to hook up with Orin's girlfriend Audrey.]] But while Seymour did kill Orin (or rather, [[MurderByInaction chose not to save him]] when he accidentally suffocated himself with laughing gas), and while he is in love with Audrey, his real motive was to save Audrey from Orin's DomesticAbuse... and to provide fresh meat for the carnivorous plant Audrey II. |
| 218 | * ''Theatre/{{Shucked}}'': Gordy tells the townsfolk to gather up all the blue rocks so he can carry them away, because they're what's causing the corn to wither. He thinks the rocks are valuable (they aren't) and wants to take them and sell them, but it turns out that he was actually right - the rocks are sucking up the water. |
| 219 | [[/folder]] |
| 220 | |
| 221 | [[folder:Visual Novels]] |
| 222 | * ''Franchise/AceAttorney'' does this a lot, often realizing the culprit before fully understanding their motive or method: |
| 223 | ** In Case 4 of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Justice for All]]'', The police arrest the suspect because a knife with their fingerprints was used to stab the victim. The victim was ''not'' killed with a knife, he was strangled, and the knife was a FrameUp by a third party. [[spoiler: But the suspect, Matt Engarde, ''did'' hire a hitman to kill the victim. Adrian Andrews was FramingTheGuiltyParty because she knew of his toxic rivalry with victim Juan Corrida.]] |
| 224 | ** In ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', Drew Misham, an art forger, had a postage stamp framed for whatever reason. Said postage stamp happened to have a powerful poison on its back. Seven years later, Drew dies from licking the stamp to use it. It's suggested that the art forger had the stamp framed because he knew it was poisoned. Apollo, assuming this to be true, makes quite an impressive leap of logic: [[spoiler:Drew is not the art forger, but rather he acts as the face of one, namely his daughter Vera. SHE had the stamp framed, allegedly suspecting the poison, and later Drew, who suspected nothing, used the stamp and died of the poison]]. Almost all of the above is true... except the stamp was framed because it featured a picture of Troupe Gramarye, and Drew's daughter was a huge fan of the Troupe. Nobody aside from the poisoner knew the stamp was poisoned. |
| 225 | ** In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations 2'', one of [[SmallNameBigEgo Sebastian's]]'s early arguments actually turns out to be a case of this. [[spoiler:Horace Knightley is found dead in prison, so Sebastian has Simon Keyes arrested simply because he happened to be Knightley's friend, then comes up with a flimsy reasoning involving a chess board he sent to the prison as a gift containing a chisel in a secret compartment. Everyone both in-universe and out laughs this off at the time, however, it is revealed ''much'' later that Keyes is the true BigBad of the game, and while he didn't personally murder Knightley, he did [[TheChessmaster manipulate events with the explicit intention of him ending up dead]], the chisel was planted in the compartment for that very purpose, ''and'' his motive for doing so did indeed involve their friendship (more specifically, Keyes believed Knightley had betrayed that friendship due to an event Knightley himself doesn't even remember).]] |
| 226 | ** There's a weird "non-culprit" example in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies''. In case 2, much of the case revolves around the fact that nobody is supposed to enter the Forbidden Chamber because supposedly, an evil demon named "Tenma Taro" is locked inside. Naturally, some characters treat this as mere superstition, and some characters treat this as real. It turns out that [[spoiler:yes, it's just superstition, there is no demon. ''But'', there ''is'' a good reason not to go into the Forbidden Chamber anyway: it turns out that "Tenma Taro" is actually the name of a gold ingot that, when it first appeared, caused the villagers to fight over the gold out of greed, ''as if'' they were possessed by monsters. So there's actually a good reason to keep the Forbidden Chamber locked up, because if people saw there was gold in there, they'd start fighting over it again. Which is, in a sense, what happened- Florent L'Belle killed Rex Kyubi because he wanted to get into the forbidden chamber and steal the gold]]. |
| 227 | ** An out of universe example, from ''Dual Destinies''. The player, especially if they kept up with the promotional material for the game including the initial teaser trailer, is going to assume that Tonate is the culprit of the first case, since he's presented as the obvious guy who really obviously committed the bombing. [[spoiler:He IS the culprit of the first case, and he killed Candice Arme with the bomb that blew up the courtroom. However, he wasn't the one to ''detonate'' the bomb. That was [[HiddenVillain the phantom's]] doing.]] |
| 228 | ** In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'', Joe Darke was a mass murderer and was fully deserving of the death penalty he got. However, [[spoiler: the murder he was convicted of that got him executed was of the one guy he '''didn't''' kill (although he was going to)]]. |
| 229 | ** In ''VisualNovel/TheGreatAceAttorney'', [[Literature/SherlockHolmes Herlock Sholmes]] does this frequently during his "Great Deductions" (in fitting with his [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} more eccentric than usual]] characterization). He manages to arrive at the correct conclusions, but through a misinterpretation of the evidence, which Ryunosuke has to work out himself. |
| 230 | *** Juror No. 2 (aka Evie Vigil) quickly figures out that there is some sort of relationship between Lord van Zieks and the defendant Albert Harebrayne. While she believes it is of a romantic nature, the truth is that they are old friends from university. |
| 231 | *** Lord Barok van Zieks was right that [[spoiler: Genshin]] had killed [[spoiler: his older brother]] but the mistake he made was believing [[spoiler: that Genshin was the mass murderer, the Professor, instead of as the man who had stopped the Professor, who was actually his older brother.]] |
| 232 | *** [[spoiler: Kazuma]] was utterly convinced that their father couldn't be the Professor because they weren't a killer. While it's true that [[spoiler: Genshin isn't the Professor]], he ''did'' in fact kill [[spoiler: Klint van Zieks, the Professor.]] |
| 233 | *** Regarding [[spoiler: the assassin exchange plot]], Sholmes was correctly clued in that ''something'' was occurring between [[spoiler: the British and Japanese government]] but due to [[spoiler: Asa Shinn disappearing from London and hearing of Wilson's death]], Sholmes had assumed [[spoiler: the four names on the list]] were in danger. It wasn't until he found out [[spoiler: Asa Shinn was alive until the 2-1 and she was Wilson's killer]] that Sholmes realized the true significance of [[spoiler: the names of the list and thus, the assassin exchange.]] |
| 234 | * ''VisualNovel/Case03TrueCannibalBoy'': Lily, Jade, and Brucie initially suspect Marty is the Cannibal Boy and is behind a string of serial murders. It turns out [[spoiler:he is responsible for killing two women, but he didn't eat them like the real Cannibal Boy. Instead, he attempted to attach their headless bodies to Sally's head, who was attacked by the real Cannibal Boy]]. |
| 235 | * ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'': |
| 236 | ** ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'': Byakuya suspects that there's [[TheMole a traitor]] among the students after Alter Ego goes missing. Kyoko had told Alter Ego to scream if it spotted anyone it didn't recognize so the Mastermind couldn't have taken it and instructed it to ''also'' scream if Ishimaru or Yamada, the only two students with a motive to steal it, had tried anything. So Byakuya believes that one of the ''other'' students stole it because they were in league with Monokuma. There ''is'' a traitor, [[NotMeThisTime but the traitor is innocent of this particular crime]].[[spoiler: The true culprit is Celestia, who didn't so much steal Alter Ego as hide it elsewhere in the room and tell it to stay quiet. Celestia is not the traitor, but part of her complicated murder plan involved convincing Hifumi that Ishimaru stole Alter Ego (and also that he raped her) and using that to manipulate Hifumi into being her accomplice]]. |
| 237 | ** In ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaV3KillingHarmony'': DitzyGenius Miu manages to [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight accurately finger the killer]] in [[spoiler:every trial she participates in]], but lacks the deductive reasoning skills to connect the how and why. [[spoiler:In the second trial, she says it's suspicious that Kirumi was alone in the gym and accuses her, which ends up being proven right. In the third trial, she accuses Korekiyo of killing Tenko and Angie since Angie's murder weapon came from his lab, and he was the first to discover Tenko's body. Lastly, in the final trial when the surviving students perform a retrial of the first case, her assessment that Monokuma was the murderer was half-right as the mastermind (who Monokuma works for anyway) ended up being the real killer.]] On top of this, Miu's contributions to the investigations of the murders proved very helpful, if not for the right reasons. [[spoiler:In Chapter 1, Miu adds a camera to a drone to draft a floor plan of the library, revealing Kaede's Rube Goldberg DeathTrap, just to get out of doing any investigative legwork. Chapter 2 has Miu establishing the alibis for everyone in the Insect Meet and Greet, which contributes to Kirumi's setup opportunity, all because she secretly felt left out. Lastly, in Chapter 3, Miu instantly assesses the wax effigy setup to be a distraction and proposes the séance was entirely a trap to lure Tenko to her death, all of which is proved to be true... for no other reason than her intuition from her golden brain.]] |
| 238 | [[/folder]] |
| 239 | |
| 240 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 241 | * In WebAnimation/{{Dorkly|Originals}}'s ''WebAnimation/PokemonRusty'', in [[GiftedlyBad Rusty's]] first gym battle against the clearly-too-strong-for-him Blaine, Rusty, after sending two clearly disadvantaged Franchise/{{Pokemon}} to die, sends out his Cubone. Blaine praises Rusty for actually thinking straight as Cubone is a Ground-type, [[ElementalRockPaperScissors which is super effective against his Fire-type Growlithe]]. Rusty scoffs at Blaine, calling him an idiot, as Cubone is a "Bone-type", and dogs have a weakness for bones. It ends up being a moot point anyway as Growlithe is too high leveled for Cubone to do anything. |
| 242 | * ''WebAnimation/EtraChanSawIt'': [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXd1RoDSSgo Azami]] is convinced she isn't related to her father, Tachibana, because she has limited knowledge of where babies come from. (She knows she came from inside her mother, Akane, but doesn't know what that has to do with the father) [[spoiler: Later, Tachibana does a [[DaddyDNATest DNA test]] on Azami, revealing he really isn't related to her, because Akane cheated on him, and Hiiragi's the real dad.]] |
| 243 | * ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'': |
| 244 | ** In ''Reconstruction'', when the reds are fighting Washington and Church. |
| 245 | --->'''Sarge:''' Alright, men. Stand down.\ |
| 246 | '''Grif:''' Stand down? We outnumber them three to two. That's like a three with a two. That's... 32% advantage... if you CarryTheOne.\ |
| 247 | '''Simmons:''' I don't want to know how you came up with that, but you're actually right! |
| 248 | ** Used again in Revelation (Season 8), when Sarge guesses that Washington killed Donut and Lopez and took Simmons prisoner due to Simmons answering the radio wrong, using an obvious lie about said radio and [[ItMakesSenseInContext a lack of tinkling glasses in the background]], but this trope comes into effect when he analyzes Simmons "coded messages": |
| 249 | --->'''Sarge:''' He also mentioned that the weather was rainier. And [[AsYouKnow as we all know]], Mt. Rainier is the biggest landmass in the state of... Washington.\ |
| 250 | '''Grif:''' We do? I mean, we do!\ |
| 251 | '''Sarge:''' How many Washingtons do we know?\ |
| 252 | '''Grif:''' Wait, did he mean Agent Washington?\ |
| 253 | '''Sarge:''' And who's the biggest mass we know associated with Washington?\ |
| 254 | '''Grif:''' The Meta!\ |
| 255 | '''Sarge:''' So the Meta and Washington have teamed up to kill Donut and Lopez, and now they're holding Simmons and Doc prisoner.\ |
| 256 | '''Grif:''' We have to help 'em! Wait, Doc? Ho- how do you know he's there?\ |
| 257 | '''Sarge:''' Please, Grif, it's so obvious. I don't wanna insult your intelligence by explaining every little detail. |
| 258 | [[/folder]] |
| 259 | |
| 260 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 261 | * ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'': |
| 262 | ** In an early strip, when the group realizes they have one too many members to be the Light Warriors (five instead of four). Fighter doesn't understand why, because he forgot to count himself, so he thinks there's only four. When the others point this out, Fighter says that the King might make the same mistake and forget to count himself. However, he then discards this idea... because he realizes that the King would think that Fighter is so awesome he should count for two Light Warriors. (For even further irony, his first conclusion about the King [[TheCaligula was far from unlikely.]]) |
| 263 | ** While the group is searching for the "invisible sky castle" that contains the Air Orb, Fighter points up at a sky castle floating overhead. Black Mage angrily asks him if it looks like an ''invisible'' sky castle, and Fighter responds that he's never seen one. When Black Mage asks why he's never seen one, Fighter thinks for a minute and says "Because they're quite rare?" Black Mage is enraged at the fact that this is technically true. For bonus points, Fighter turns out to be right; the story about the sky castle containing the Orb being invisible was completely made up, so his guess that the very visible sky castle was the right one was correct. |
| 264 | * In a (spoilery) fancomic set at the end of "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E19CrusadersOfTheLostMark Crusaders of the Lost Mark]]", [[https://henbe.deviantart.com/art/Go-home-566829278 Berry Punch realizes she is, in fact, inebriated]]. This is, however, because something has happened she did not expect any time soon. |
| 265 | * ''Webcomic/CursedPrincessClub'': Prince Jamie has such a finely-honed sense of taste as a professional food critic that he can even discern the thoughts and emotions of the people who make meals for him. He notes that certain emotions taste identical to regular flavors, with devastation tasting just like [[ItTastesLikeFeet carpet]]. So when his sister [[SweetBaker Gwendolyn]] (who's dishes he loves eating) made him a special waffle plate that tasted like carpet, he deduces that she must have been feeling devastated, as there's no way she'd serve him something that fell on the floor. Gwen ''did'' drop an ingredient on the floor -- but she was also distraught over realizing that things weren't working out between her and her fiancé Frederick. |
| 266 | * ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics'': Touched upon in [[http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1532 this]] episode. One dinosaur says that, in order to ''know'' something, it needs to be true, and it needs to be justified. Another (orange) dinosaur wonders if it would count as knowledge if he asked to take a nap in the first one's bed, the first one said yes, but then an orange man killed the dinosaur in his sleep and took his place. The first dinosaur would be correct that "an orange dude" is sleeping in his bed, but it wouldn't be the one he thought. |
| 267 | * ''Webcomic/{{Drowtales}}'': |
| 268 | ** The [[KnightTemplar Kyorl'solenurn Clan]] oppose tainting (the merging of one's aura to a nether being) on religious grounds, believing that it goes against the will of the Goddess Sharess, and make a point to kill any tainted they come across and MercyKill members of their own clan who may become tainted by accident. They also oppose the mandatory tainting at the local WizardingSchool that's given as a sort of "vaccine" for nether summoners, which turns out to be this trope because [[spoiler:almost all of the seeds being given out are intentionally faulty and will kill their users within fifty years]] but the Kyorl don't know this. |
| 269 | ** Quain'tana's opposition to her daughter Mel'arnach's relationship with Snadhya'rune Vel'Sharen is primarily based on Snadhya being the eldest daughter of one of Quain's greatest enemies, but after Snadhya lets her MaskOfSanity slip and it's heavily implied she's only using Mel as a pawn, including coldly leaving her to to essentially become a BabyFactory, it's become a case of this. |
| 270 | * ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'': |
| 271 | ** In one strip, the math teacher says Grace and Ellen are a mystery that needs solving, and makes a whole bunch of calculations based on their statistics. To their shock, he claims the result is "a duplicate squirrel of some sort", before admitting he was just messing with them and the whole thing was gibberish. Unbeknownst to the teacher, Ellen is a duplicate of Elliot, and Grace is a [[HalfHumanHybrid human/squirrel/alien hybrid]] shapeshifter whose normal form resembles a humanoid squirrel. |
| 272 | ** Voltaire comes to the correct conclusion that there [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2462 are more seers than just the two he knows about.]] (warning: spoilers). However, his reasons are a little bit off. [[spoiler:Magic just underwent a small change, meaning that someone must have talked it out of making a large change. Voltaire assumes that Arthur wouldn't want to make such an argument, and that [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2275 Tedd was in no shape emotionally]] to do so, meaning that some unknown third seer must have been present to do the talking. There are other seers. [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2455 About a thousand of them, in fact.]] However, the only other seer who spoke with The Will of Magic was [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2451 a kid named Van]] who didn't really do much. In reality, [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=2460 Tedd was the one]] who convinced magic not to change.]] |
| 273 | ** Shortly after Elliot comes out to his friends as "gender casual", an EGS:NP storyline reveals that George has been suspecting Elliot might be genderqueer for a while. Half his reasoning is correct: he knows Elliot is Cheerleadra. The other half isn't: he's never seen Elliot and Ellen at the same time and believes they're the same person. |
| 274 | * ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'': |
| 275 | ** During the debate about robot rights, someone in the audience asks how something that isn't alive can be self-aware, and is mollified when another audience member offers vampires and ghosts as an example. Max, who's arguing ''for'' robot rights, is horrified. "That was a smart question! Don't accept a dumb answer!" |
| 276 | ** [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Mr Kornada]] is faced with the Trolley Problem. He states that he would direct it to hit one person, rather than five, a position that many people hold to be the most moral option... but his reasoning is that it would do less damage ''to the trolley'', which, while certainly a true statement, is [[LackOfEmpathy definitely not what the Trolley Problem is about]]. |
| 277 | * ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'': |
| 278 | ** When the castle traps a group in a room to [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20090304 request repairs]] Professor Tiktoffen yells that they're doomed and can't leave since no-one has made any progress in the room and the castle keeps killing people there. Theo on the other hand notices that Gil is looking in glee at the broken mechanisms and already has figured out that the reason they're going to be stuck is because Gil has entered TheMadnessPlace and isn't going to walk away from it: |
| 279 | --->'''Theo:''' Uh oh. You may be ''right'' but for the ''wrong reason. Gil?''\ |
| 280 | '''Gil:''' Oooh--'''''This''''' looks... '''''Interesting!''''' |
| 281 | ** Oublenmach, one of the Storm King conspirators, claims that Van Heliotrope is the most important man in Mechanicsburg because he is the ringer of the Doom Bell, which announces the return of the Heterodyne and opens their treasure vault. Van ''is'' the most important man in town, but because he's the castle seneschal (essentially the mayor), a position that was supposed to be extinct. "Doom Bell ringer" is an entirely ceremonial position; the Castle can ring the Bell on its own. |
| 282 | ** The abbot [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20141008#.VbX2Z7VXpyI deduces]] that the woman one of his monks is trying to kill is the Lady Heterodyne, because why else would Storm Lord assassins be on the train? The monk in question admits that she ''is'' the Heterodyne, but the assassins were after a completely different woman. |
| 283 | * [[http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php?p=comic&nro=5 Strip 5]] of ''Webcomic/GoneWithTheBlastwave'' has a pair of Reds spot some Yellows with a tank, so one Red suggests to that the other "run into the middle so I can shoot your gas tank and [[ActionBomb take them all out with the blast]]." The other protests it's not a good idea... because the blast wouldn't be enough to take them all out. |
| 284 | --> '''Red 1:''' ...Wait. That's the ''only'' reason not to do it?! |
| 285 | --> '''Red 2:''' I mean, it's a good plan. |
| 286 | * ''Webcomic/{{Handplates}}'': Asgore [[https://www.deviantart.com/zarla/art/Snaps-right-back-on-741839783 scolds Gaster]] for carrying baby Papyrus upside down because it’s not safe. Gaster says that it should be fine because skeletons don’t have physical brains, veins, or bloodflow that could be negatively affected from being held upside down, but Asgore gets proven right a second later when Papyrus’ head falls off and hits the tabletop with a “clonk”. (Thankfully, he’s fine afterwards, just dizzy.) |
| 287 | * ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': Betty "Batterwitch" Crocker is [[spoiler: an evil alien empress, plotting dominion over the entire world, and was also the cruel stepmother of John's Nanna and Jade's Grandpa]]. John knows none of this, but has a deep dislike of her because he's getting tired of cake. |
| 288 | * ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'': When Corrie is disguised as a wolf by using Ralph's skin, Fiona notices something suspicious about her. Corrie thinks it's that Fiona has discovered her identity, but Fiona says that Corrie is Ralph's daughter. Corrie dismisses this theory, reasoning that Fiona only came to that conclusion due to Ralph's scent on the skin, until Bruno later finds out her origins, and discovers that this is the truth. |
| 289 | * ''Webcomic/LiesSistersAndWives'': Bob comes under the false impression that Jessica, Matilda, and Agatha are all Fredrik's daughters. In truth, only Matilda is. However, [[spoiler:his assumption that Fredrik has three daughters turns out to be correct. Aside from Matilda and her unseen veterinarian sister, it turns out that Fredrik has a third, secret daughter with a mistress.]] |
| 290 | * ''Webcomic/MarryMyHusband'': As their relationship disintegrates, Sumin and Minhwan separately go into NeverMyFault mode regarding their actions and blame Jiwon for all their problems, believing that she set them up so she could date Jihyeok without any obstacles in her path. They're partly right; Jiwon deliberately manipulated them into hooking up, but it was so she could take revenge on them for how awfully they've always treated her. |
| 291 | * ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Belkar correctly guesses that [[spoiler:Durkon isn't himself after becoming a vampire. His reasoning is that "He had a spell prepared that will actually solve our problem! That proves that he can't ''possibly'' be Durkon!" Belkar later reveals that he also is also aware of the more relevant fact that Vampire Durkon behaves like a FullyEmbracedFiend in unguarded moments]]. |
| 292 | * ''Webcomic/RequestComics'': The premise of [[http://www.requestcomics.com/comic/23.html #23]]. The LEGO man gets an equation correct, but he does the math badly. |
| 293 | * ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'': [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/ellipsis This]] page, which looks at "Lucky Moron Sequences". A man correctly solves the equation "24 + 12 + 6 + 3 + ... = ?" by getting 48, yet he thinks the three dots means "3". |
| 294 | * ''Webcomic/TalesOfTheQuestor'': Quentyn Quinn believes that a bunch of human coins are forged because the heads face the wrong way. [[ConvictionByCounterfactualClue Unbeknownst to him]], the direction the heads face is irrelevant, but the coins are indeed fakes. |
| 295 | * ''WebComic/TowerOfGod'': In "Hansung's Examination", there's a test that's supposedly to find the right door within ten minutes, apparently without hints, but really you're supposed to notice the hidden hints that say you need to [[spoiler: open ''any'' door within ''five'' minutes.]] One group passes the test because one of them supposedly communes with his weirdo god to find the right door, and they're left with the impression that's what happened. Some other groups also pass because someone in them is just impatient and just opens some door, which is sort of half right. |
| 296 | * ''Webcomic/Trevor2020'': Dr. Stern tells Dr. Maddison to stop pretending like the latter is above what they’ve done, and that Dr. Maddison has as much blood on his hands as he does. He’s referring to [[spoiler: the experiments done on Trevor and other test subjects]], but doesn’t realize Dr. Maddison [[spoiler: arranged for Trevor to escape and exact bloody revenge on him and]] the rest of the medical team. |
| 297 | * In ''Webcomic/WeakHero'', Hyeonjin is the only member of Gerard's band who objects to taking on Sinma Entertainment as their agent. It turns out to be a bad idea, as the agents end up scamming the kids, but Hyeonjin was only objecting on the grounds that taking on an agent would be [[SellOut selling out]]. |
| 298 | * ''Webcomic/{{xkcd}}'': |
| 299 | ** In [[http://xkcd.com/759/ this]] comic someone correctly calculates that three times nine is 27, but does it by multiplying three by the square root of 81, and then treating the radical like a long division sign and dividing it out. (The AltText suggests that they did know the answer the normal way, they just didn't know how to show their working beyond "because that's what it is", and so had to fudge something.) |
| 300 | ** In [[https://xkcd.com/2898/ this]] one the middle character deduces that since some people say that the Earth orbits the Sun and others that the Sun orbits the Earth, the truth must be that both orbit a common center. He is technically correct (they orbit a common [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter_(astronomy) barycenter]]) but his justification (that the truth is always "somewhere in the middle") is fallacious. The AltText has him make a similar accidentally-correct argument about [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality wave-particle duality]]. |
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| 302 | |
| 303 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 304 | * One segment of ''WebVideo/AMVHell 4'' pokes fun at some EEqualsMCHammer equations written on a blackboard in ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' by pointing out all the algebraic mistakes in them. It further notes that the final question actually turns out to have the correct answer, despite making several mistakes in the solution. |
| 305 | * The "Sleepwaker" arc in ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' sees [[spoiler: Pollo, Harvey Finevoice, and Linksano go WhatTheHellHero when Linkara resorted to spying on them after discovering that 90s Kid was working with Lord Vyce. Turns out 90s Kid has good reason to be working with Vyce--the Entity has hijacked Linkara's body and used the pretext of fearing that Vyce would take the Entity's place to justify his actions]]. |
| 306 | * In ''LetsPlay/{{Bravemule}}'' (a ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'' story that's [[BlueAndOrangeMorality out there]] [[StrangeSyntaxSpeaker even by]] [[YouNoTakeCandle DF standards]]), Kou the warrior is told to raise crops. This is the rationale she presents for ''watering the field'': |
| 307 | -->'''Kou's narration:''' "Drowning fire that murders the crop murders the fire, therefrom I surmise drowning the seeds would unmurder the crop." |
| 308 | * ''Creator/TheCynicalBrit'': TB concludes that Wheatley in ''VideoGame/Portal2'' is untrustworthy...because of his [[EvilBrit accent]]. |
| 309 | * In ''WebVideo/DanganronpaAbridgedThing'', an "abridged parody" of ''Anime/DanganronpaTheAnimation'', during the first trial Touko Fukawa says the murderer has to be a guy, because only "cis white male" scum are capable of doing something so horrible. (She blows Naegi off when he points out that they're all Japanese). It later turns out that the murderer ''is'' male, but Fukawa reached that correct conclusion through an idiotic train of logic. |
| 310 | * PlayedForDrama in ''WebVideo/DemoReel'', as Uncle Yo assumes Donnie's mother told him to stay out of Hollywood and that's why he hates it so much. He ''does'' hate Hollywood because of his mom, [[spoiler: but only because the unfair system made her kill herself]]. |
| 311 | * ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'': |
| 312 | ** Before leaving for Namek, Krillin put in a massive life insurance policy, to be claimed by his nonexistent identical twin brother Juan. And since he does die on Namek, he claims the money. He doesn't enjoy his wealth for long; the government investigates him for insurance fraud, thinking that he faked his death. |
| 313 | ** Bulma starts hitting on Trunks in episode 33. Who, unbeknownst to her but well known to the audience, is her KidFromTheFuture. |
| 314 | ---> '''Bulma:''' So hey, like just gonna throw this out there. You're really cute.\ |
| 315 | '''Trunks:''' Well, you know, my mom always said I was a cute kid.\ |
| 316 | '''Bulma:''' Oh, a momma's boy huh? [[DoubleEntendre I'll be your mommy.]] ''(saucy wink)''\ |
| 317 | '''Trunks:''' ''([[TheUnSmile Strained smile]]; internally)'' '''[[ScreamingAtSquick AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA]][[SickAndWrong AAAAAAAAAAA]][[ThisIsWrongOnSoManyLevels AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!]]''' |
| 318 | ** After Goku uses Instant Transmission to remove Cell from Earth, King Kai comments "I'll see you soon, my friend". Cue Goku teleporting in with the soon to explode Cell. |
| 319 | * During the ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'' review of ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' on UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} they remark that the developers can't be accused of racism because they, as a Japanese team, put in the [[SelfDeprecation self-deprecating]] Piston Hondo. They're right that such an accusation would hold little merit, but it's because of ''[[MooseAndMapleSyrup Bear Hugger]]'' as the game (Just the Wii version specifically) was made by Canadian developers Next Level Gaming Inc. In fact, they went out of their way to pick Bear Hugger as the ''only'' character to return from ''Super Punch Out!!''. |
| 320 | * In ''WebVideo/HellsingUltimateAbridged'', Alucard concludes that since [[ArtisticLicenseHistory the Nazis were organized]] and their then-mysterious enemies are organized, their enemies must be Nazis. That he's correct only by sheer coincidence doesn't stop him from rubbing it in Integra's face when it turns out to be true. Later in the series, the one building in London the Major forbids being razed to the ground is the Holocaust Museum, because "no one will deny what we did." He's a ''Nazi'', and a particularly bloodthirsty, war-hungry example at that. Of course he'd be proud. That he's also come to a morally and factually correct conclusion is happen-stance. |
| 321 | * Paladin King Trevor from the ''Lamia Daughter Quest'' roleplay is a {{Deconstruction}} of this. He claims that the Citadel kingdom is evil, and he's absolutely right about that, but he's wrong about pretty much every particular. He believes that it's evil in an entirely mundane way, while it's actually a GeniusLoci that feeds on periodic human sacrifices and acts like the [[Literature/WitchesAbroad Lily Weatherwax]] of heroic fantasy. Because of his misconception of Citadel, he ends up playing right into its hands, giving an army to one of its stooges and eventually becoming a pawn himself. |
| 322 | * WebVideo/JennyNicholson's review of the book ''Trigger Warning'', a book which lauds Audie Murphy as an example of the "hard man" who didn't whine about needing safe spaces, points this out about a quote boasting "his safe space was behind a gun." The book's characterization of Murphy is horribly off; he ''did'' suffer from PTSD and spent much of his later life as an advocate for awareness, treatment, and sensitivity on the subject, and his was so bad that he ended up using a PillowPistol as a coping mechanism, as he was unable to sleep otherwise. So his "safe space" ''was'' behind a gun... but not at all for the reasons the writers imagined. |
| 323 | * WebVideo/{{Kitboga}} is a scambaiter popular on Website/YouTube and Website/{{Twitch}}. In one instance, a scammer directed Kitboga to install a 32-bit version of [=TeamViewer=], which didn't work right, because his computer uses a 64-bit version of Windows. Because it wasn't working right, the scammer became convinced that he was talking to a scambaiter, which was true, but didn't have anything to with why [=TeamViewer=] wasn't working properly. |
| 324 | * In [[LetsPlay/NicoB NicoB's ]][[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5bkYBlFL9xciKFF5jEbiio-TFUoyNzTk Let's Play]] of ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Ace Attorney Investigations 2]]'', he figured out that [[spoiler:Simon Keyes]] was the true mastermind of the game well before the reveal because he mistakenly thought that [[spoiler:Simon had the same hair color as the murdered Isaac Dover (Dover had brown hair, Simon had naturally black hair but dyed it red) and hence had to be his son out for revenge]] which caused him to subsequently spot several more connections the mastermind had with previous cases. Ironically, [[spoiler:''Simon himself'' mistakenly thought that Isaac was his father too]], making this a weirdly meta example. |
| 325 | * Speaking of ''Franchise/AceAttorney'', LetsPlay/{{Lucahjin}} does this [[RunningGag with alarming frequency]] in her own ''Ace Attorney'' [=LPs=], following completely incorrect lines of logic but always arriving at the correct piece of evidence to present. |
| 326 | * The ''Franchise/{{Noob}}'' webseries and comics has Dark Avenger getting regularly beaten by Sparadrap's InvincibleIncompetent. This leads Dark Avenger to believe that Sparadrap is actually an elite MMORPG player displaying ObfuscatingStupidity. One of the things Dark Avenger's superiors have against the theory is the reason why an elite player would pretend to be a {{Noob}}. Dark Avenger's reply to it is that Sparadrap is probably a spy for his faction's elite guild. Actual facts: Dark Avenger's defeats are 95% Sparadrap's InvincibleIncompetent and 5% Sparadrap's elite player younger brother taking over his avatar. The brother in question has a record of showing up with his own avatar or taking over Sparadrap's at the right time on other occasions precisely because he'd been keeping an eye on Sparadrap's screen. |
| 327 | * WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic asks Evilina in ''Film/TheCatInTheHat'' if the movie has broken him. The reason why he's asking is because he has no jokes to make for a scene, but he's right for other reasons; like how it made a PapaWolf hit a child and make her cry. |
| 328 | * ''WebVideo/OutsideXbox'': This happens several times during their ''VideoGame/AmongUs'' streams, with people ThrownOutTheAirlock based on speculation, poor logic or misunderstanding the game mechanics who did actually turn out to be an impostor. For some reason, Johnny Chiodini seems particularly vulnerable to it, with causes of death including "speculative vote from Alex Lolies that was the only one cast that round" and "other players assumed you had to be in a given room to sabotage it, and Johnny's audio wasn't working so they couldn't correct that assumption." |
| 329 | * When LetsPlay/{{Turpster}} plays ''VideoGame/TroubleInTerroristTown'' with LetsPlay/{{Sips}}, LetsPlay/HatFilms and the other members of the LetsPlay/{{Yogscast}}, he has a habit of murdering people without reason when playing as the detective. Quite a few times when he commits RDM (killing without good reason, long story short), the person in question actually was the murderer or a traitor, although it still counts as breaking the rules and earns him a lot of flak from the other players. He ends up pressing LetsPlay/LewisBrindley's BerserkButton in particular, and gets killed twice for this. |
| 330 | * ''WebVideo/WrestleWrestle'': Spoony insisted that the anger over the 2015 Wrestling/RoyalRumble wasn't about Wrestling/RomanReigns winning instead of [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] as much as that the WWE management decided who they were going to push over the wishes of the fans. |
| 331 | * This happens to poor Zylus (another Yogscast member) whenever he plays ''VideoGame/TroubleInTerroristTown''. LetsPlay/{{Rythian}} ends up committing RDM by saying that he just "knows" Zylus to be guilty -- he is, but Rythian's only defence is "is it RDM when, in your heart you know it to be true". Lewis then kills him for being too quiet. |
| 332 | [[/folder]] |
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| 334 | [[folder:Web Video]] |
| 335 | * In ''WebVideo/SwordArtOnlineAbridged'', after Heathcliff gets outed as Kayaba Akihiko, he uses his system admin privileges to paralyze a large group of players before ranting about how stupid and self-destructive they are, ignoring his strategies and [[LeeroyJenkins recklessly charging despite how it would get them killed]], then turning around and [[NeverMyFault blaming him for all their problems]]. Then one of the paralyzed players reminds him that he was the reason they're trapped in the game in the first place. [[DisproportionateRetribution Kayaba murders in response]]. |
| 336 | [[/folder]] |
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