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| 11 | ->''"You can't compete with the long lost Agent Mulder. His easy good looks, his Oxford education. Mulder has what you can't have. But you stumble forward, the flatfooted cop, thinking you can put handcuffs on demons."'' |
| 12 | -->-- '''Josef Kobold''' to Agt. Doggett, ''Series/TheXFiles'', "[[Recap/TheXFilesS09E03Daemonicus Dæmonicus]]" |
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| 14 | A popular character is [[DyingToBeReplaced killed off]] or otherwise written out and replaced with [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute a new character who fills their previous role]]. Regardless of what this new character is like, they're likely to end up with a {{Hatedom}} [[TheScrappy directed at them]], just because they're not the old favourite. If they'd been there from the start, maybe the fans could have loved this new character, or at least respected them. But no -- they're a replacement. They're not even a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute who at least shared some character traits with the other one, they're a totally different character, and so every flaw -- every trait that makes them ''not'' like the character the fans want them to be -- drives them crazy with longing and disgust, and all they can do is get angrier and angrier.[[note]](Or, even worse, they ''are'' a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, trying to ape everything that made the old character popular, who the fans hate for being a "bad copy" of their favorite.)[[/note]] |
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| 16 | Pointing out the fact that the creators sometimes had no choice but to abandon the old character or also make a replacement may still not calm fans down. See ExiledFromContinuity, TheCharacterDiedWithHim, and ActorLeavesCharacterDies. |
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| 18 | Sometimes this is understandable: the fans mourn the loss of the old character, whom they have come to know and love, and suddenly they are forced to get to know a new character all over again, and inevitable comparisons will ensue. However, if the new character is poorly written, interacts awkwardly with the old characters, derails the show or, worst of all, becomes a CreatorsPet, fans will often go to war over their outrage. Expect [[FlameBait the use of flamethrowers where these characters are discussed]], especially if the new character gains a dissenting fandom - {{Broken Base}}s because of these characters are not unknown phenomena. [[{{Metaphorgotten}} Investing in fire-proof armor or a bunker deep underground may help if all-encompassing forum warfare breaks out]]. |
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| 20 | In short, TheyChangedItNowItSucks, but with a main character. If lucky, they may be RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. This becomes a lot more likely if the character they initially replaced ever returns. (Most likely because they no longer have the "replacement" stigma hanging over their head, and as such are more likely to be judged on their own merits.) |
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| 22 | Attempting this in-universe can be risky because it can backfire when the audience [[EnsembleDarkhorse actually likes the replacement character]] who [[BreakoutCharacter ends up becoming a fan favorite]]. However, Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad, this can actually be a technique [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap to make the replacement character]] more [[TheWoobie sympathetic]] or [[TakeThatScrappy can be satisfying when it turns out they ARE a Replacement Scrappy after all]]. |
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| 24 | Contrast MorePopularReplacement. Compare and contrast TemporaryScrappy, which is a purposefully dislikable character that enters and goes in a short span. |
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| 26 | (Of course, being a Replacement Scrappy does not preclude also being a regular [[TheScrappy Scrappy]]. It is entirely possible that the audience would have hated the character anyway.) |
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| 28 | [[noreallife]] |
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| 30 | !!Examples Subpages: |
| 31 | [[index]] |
| 32 | * ReplacementScrappy/AnimeAndManga |
| 33 | * ReplacementScrappy/ComicBooks |
| 34 | * ReplacementScrappy/LiveActionTV |
| 35 | ** ReplacementScrappy/GameShow |
| 36 | * ReplacementScrappy/VideoGames |
| 37 | [[/index]] |
| 38 | |
| 39 | !!Other Examples: |
| 40 | |
| 41 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 42 | |
| 43 | [[folder:Advertising]] |
| 44 | %%* No one was happy when Free Credit Score hired a new band to replace the old one. ''No one.'' Thankfully, the company realized this, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38icBN1f1_g and judging by this commercial]], it looks like the old band is coming back. |
| 45 | * Wendy Thomas, for whom the Wendy's fast food chain is named, is not nearly the advertiser her father (and the chain's founder) Dave Thomas was. The nameless redhead (who looks like the logo on the sign), whom the company brought in to replace Wendy, isn't much better and didn't last either. |
| 46 | ** At least until the intern who ran the Website/{{Twitter}} account started getting snarky, now... |
| 47 | * The makers of the German chocolate bar [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Chocolate ''Kinder Schokolade'']] certainly didn't expect ''[[https://web.archive.org/web/20051229151933/http://www.weg-mit-kevin.de/?site=Startseite that]]'' kind of backlash when in 2005, after decades, they replaced the boy on the packaging. |
| 48 | * The UK's Admiral Insurance has received a lot of criticism for replacing their original mascot the Admiral with a female version. She was intended to be a strong and independent business woman, but ended up coming off as annoyingly obnoxious. Out of all the videos on their Platform/YouTube channel, the ones featuring her tend to get the lowest ratings. In 2019 she was replaced by a more appealing animated version. |
| 49 | * UK price comparison site Confused.com's mascot Brian the Robot is considered by many to be a poor, and at worst annoying, replacement for their previous mascot Cara Confused, whose ads included catchy covers of popular songs and some racy humor. Much to fans' delight, the robot was retired in 2016 in favour of new ads featuring Creator/JamesCorden and later Creator/TimothyVMurphy. |
| 50 | * In the Sonic commercials, there's two guys who sit in a car and banter back and forth at each other about menu items. Sonic ran commercials without them, and everyone got so mad, they had to bring the two back. |
| 51 | * In 2014, [=McDonald=]'s began [[AbandonedMascot phasing out]] their long-time mascot Ronald [=McDonald=] for their new one: Happy, a [[AnimateInanimateObject living Happy Meal box]]. While Ronald still exists within the company, in advertising he's been replaced. The new mascot was disliked from the get-go not only for replacing Ronald but because it was creepy looking. Happy is also goofy and nonverbal similar to the ''Minions'', which are controversial in their own right. This has made Happy an unpopular mascot. |
| 52 | * Many old school fans of Cinnamon Toast Crunch adored {{Cool Old Guy}} Chef Wendell, so when he got replaced with the Crazy Squares they weren't pleased. Chef Wendell was a little loony at times during the 90's as he was written in similar way like other General Mills mascots at the time (he was more civilized in his earlier appearances), but he was generally entertaining for many and famous for his catch phrase "Can you see the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?" Meanwhile the Crazy Squares are rather infamous for being seen as cannibals since the advertisements often show them ''eating each other'', and has turned some old fans away from buying the cereal unless it's one of the rare "old retro covers" that has Chef Wendell on it. |
| 53 | * In 1998, Birdseye decided to retool their mascot Captain Birdseye, who is generally depicted as a clean living, older sailor with a white beard, dressed in merchant naval uniform and a white polo neck sweater and with a seafaring accent into a YoungerAndHipper ActionHero version, who is depicted as a much younger, rugged, dark-haired man with designer stubble and a miniature submarine, who indulged in far more action-packed adventures accompanied by his pet pelican named Jess. Fans reacted unfavourable towards the new incarnation and the classic incarnation was brought back in 2002. |
| 54 | * After Creator/BillyMays died unexpectedly in 2009, [[TheRival Anthony Sullivan]] was brought in to pitch his products. Reaction was instant and fierce, and the commercials didn't last long. Previously, they used a generic voice-over which yielded similar negativity. |
| 55 | * The 2007 Chips Ahoy! commercials were beloved for their BlackComedy and their comedic song covers, but unfortunately didn't last very long. In 2021, Nabisco attempted to make a SpiritualSuccessor to the commercials, but these new commercials were absolutely ''detested'' by viewers for their obnoxious TotallyRadical tone. |
| 56 | * In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got an upgrade from stop-motion to CGI in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father set to an almost painfully "hip" remix of the song, with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from being used in the following years, however. In addition, another new commercial was released on December 2020 involving the song without the one red Kiss. As the song was nearing its end, however, the red Kiss enters from the right and gets into its position, allowing it to play the final note, which makes its fellow Kisses delighted that the red Kiss was back. |
| 57 | [[/folder]] |
| 58 | |
| 59 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 60 | * In the ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'' fanfic ''Ghostbusters Hellbent'' (now taken down, but an {{MST}} of it can be read [[http://www.ectozone.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=514 here]]): |
| 61 | ** The main character, [[OriginalCharacter Brendan French]], isn't a ''complete'' replacement for Peter Venkman, since Venkman still exists in the story, but Brendan does steal a few of Venkman's lines and scenes, which made him unpopular with the readers, in addition to his being made the leader of the team too quickly and not held accountable for being responsible for the Ghostbusters being put in jail. |
| 62 | ** Similarly, another original character named Patty is unpopular for having many stolen lines of dialogue and scenes from Dana (and for being irrational). Like Venkman, Dana does appear in the story, but Patty still more or less takes over her role. |
| 63 | ** In its sequel, ''High School Screamsale'', the original character Winnie pretty much takes over Janine's role in ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'' episode "Janine, You've Changed", which led to the readers hating her. |
| 64 | * ''Fanfic/PokemonResetBloodlines'': InUniverse example with the Cerulean Gym's history. It was founded and originally led by Misty's grandmother Ondine Waterflower, who was considered one of the best Gym Leaders of her time. Unfortunately, her son barely inherited a portion of her talent, and her eldest granddaughters not even that, so they're viewed in this light and the gym's rep has plummeted as a result. Both the Cerulean Don George and Agent Joy see that Misty has the potential to be a RedeemingReplacement should she take it over one day, however. |
| 65 | * ''Fanfic/SOE2LoneHeirOfKrypton'': InUniverse example. After [[spoiler:being {{Mind Rape}}d by Arael]] Asuka begins to see ''herself'' as this to the dead ''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} Kal-El]]'', thinking that he is far more deserving of [[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} their powers]]. |
| 66 | * Thoroughly discussed in the ''Series/CriminalMinds'' fanfiction ''Voices of the Forgotten'', which, as the title suggests, is about all the characters who've come or gone unceremoniously over the years. |
| 67 | -->'''Elle''': She at least thought that they would not like her replacement more than her because nobody ever likes the replacement...\ |
| 68 | '''Jordan''': Even if they're temporary...\ |
| 69 | '''Ashley''': Or not technically a replacement at all. |
| 70 | * In ''FanFic/ZeldasHonor'', a lot of reader hate can be directed at Cayla for not only being a disagreeable character to begin with (she does get better by the end however), but [[spoiler: also replacing Impa after she dies as the Sage of Shadow]] and all that role implies. |
| 71 | [[/folder]] |
| 72 | |
| 73 | [[folder:Films -- Animation]] |
| 74 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'': [[SissyVillain Sarousch]] is generally considered to be far inferior to the iconic Frollo of [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney the previous film]], being a FlatCharacter with a nonsensical evil plan. He's even considered worse than the below-mentioned Morgana in this regard, and he's often seen as the weakest Creator/{{Disney}} villain of all. |
| 75 | * Buzz's new crew in ''Westernanimation/{{Lightyear}}'' was not liked as replacements for the supporting cast of ''Westernanimation/BuzzLightyearOfStarCommand''. And WordOfGod [[https://twitter.com/AngusMacLane/status/1535763232178089986 saying that]] [[Franchise/ToyStory in-universe]] the show is supposed to be an AnimatedAdaptation ironically makes Mira, Booster and XR a retroactive MorePopularReplacement. |
| 76 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea'': While Morgana does have her fans, general consensus is that she's simply a far weaker version of the iconic [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ursula]], not helped by her RememberTheNewGuy status. |
| 77 | * Flash Sentry from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' was TheScrappy in [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls1 the first movie]] due being a SatelliteLoveInterest to Twilight Sparkle, but he still got one in ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsLegendOfEverfree Legend of Everfree]]'' with Timber Spruce, who had the same issues. Whether Timber is better or worse [[BaseBreakingCharacter is debated]], but it didn't help his case that he debuted ''just'' as Flash was starting to get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap. |
| 78 | [[/folder]] |
| 79 | |
| 80 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 81 | * ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'': |
| 82 | ** Unavoidably since Ripley is so beloved and iconic her [[{{expy}} expies]] in ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and ''Film/AlienCovenant'' Shaw and Daniels respectively are regarded as this compared to her. In fairness both women were supposed [[RevisitingTheRoots harken back]] to Ripley’s portrayal in the [[Film/{{Alien}} first film]] where she was a vulnerable FinalGirl who just managed to survive by the skin of her teeth, but Ripley’s badass status in the much loved [[Film/{{Aliens}} second film]] made this a losing battle for the female protagonists who came after her. |
| 83 | ** The supporting cast in ''Film/Alien3'' Clemens, Aaron etc despite being played by acclaimed actors are regarded this compared to Hicks and Newt from the second film. The fact said characters were infamously [[DroppedABridgeOnHim were killed off]] in the opening of the film for the sake of having Ripley be alone again (making so much of ''Aliens'' AllForNothing) definitely contributed to this. |
| 84 | ** Android characters Cal from ''Film/AlienResurrection'' and David from ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'' and ''Film/AlienCovenant'' are considered this compared to Creator/LanceHenriksen’s Bishop the fan favourite Android of the second film. With the latter David at least this was an IntendedAudienceReaction with David being a ManipulativeBastard AIIsACrapShoot and eventual BigBad of the franchise. Walter, David’s BenevolentAI twin was even made as a compromise for those who missed Bishop. |
| 85 | * ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'': |
| 86 | ** Creator/AndrewGarfield himself seems to be this to Creator/TobeyMaguire, as many Maguire fans see Maguire as their [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy preferred Peter]] and somewhat resent Andrew for not being him. Doubly ironic considering many comic fans have commented on the fact that Garfield's portrayal is much closer to the original Lee-Ditko comics, and was much closer to John Romita Sr. redesign of Peter, which has been his default look for the majority of comics and in the ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' comics, as opposed to Ditko's Spider-Man which is the EarlyInstallmentWeirdness of the franchise. Complaints usually involve Andrew's Peter being far less likable than Tobey's, which is mostly because Garfield portrayed the character as a ClassicalAntiHero whereas Maguire is portrayed with a more traditional heroic personality. Andrew's emotional range as an actor has also been called into question as being too flat and too wooden throughout the movies (though it must be said that similar complaints have been leveled against Maguire's performance). Other comic book fans, however, welcomed the film and reboot. Eventually though, reception toward Garfield’s portrayal softened as the actor was honest about his own misgivings with the films and went on to act in a number of celebrated performances. Consequently, [[spoiler:TASM Peter’s return in ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' was widely celebrated, and his redemptive moment to save MJ the way he couldn’t save Gwen was hailed as one of the best parts of the movie]]. |
| 87 | ** Richard Parker gets flak from fans for hijacking the plot of [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 the sequel]] and removing much of Uncle Ben's impact on Peter. A lot of critics have noted that the entire subplot involving him and his operation against Oscorp was actually unnecessary for the story of the sequel and the time spent developing it should have been reserved for other characters. |
| 88 | ** Despite briefly becoming the new Green Goblin after his father in the comics and previous Spider-Man films, most fans simply weren’t pleased with Harry becoming ''the'' Goblin instead of his dad and just wanted Norman in the role (the [=TASM=] version of Norman unceremoniously dying off screen despite being played by the great Creator/ChrisCooper). Harry’s crack addict design as the Green Goblin and being another element in a [[FourLinesAllWaiting subplot-stuffed]] movie didn’t help either. [[spoiler: When the original Creator/WillemDafoe Green Goblin gloriously returned to steal the show in ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' there was endless rejoicing.]] |
| 89 | * ''Film/BluesBrothers2000'': Mighty Mac is this to Jake. While he's a ''very'' good singer and at times comes close to being a decent replacement, he simply couldn't fill Jake's shoes (and given that Jake was played by the irreplaceable Creator/JohnBelushi, ''any'' replacement character was going to have their work cut out for them). |
| 90 | * Glen Robbins in ''Film/CitySlickersIITheLegendOfCurlysGold'' is a perfect example of this trope, having replaced the much-loved character Ed Furillo from the [[Film/CitySlickers first movie]]. |
| 91 | * ''Film/ConanTheDestroyer'': After spending most of the previous film accompanied by his loyal friend and cunning warrior Subotai, this time Conan has a roguish sidekick Malak. Not only he's much less competent overall in comparison to Subotai, he also seems to recognize things Subotai, not him, was a witness to in the first place, which made him appear even more as a cheap replacement and didn't endear fans to him any further. |
| 92 | * Detective Clifton Sleigh (Ted Wass) in ''Film/CurseOfThePinkPanther''. The plot sets him up as investigating Inspector Clouseau's disappearance, as established in the previous film, ''Film/TrailOfThePinkPanther''. Sleigh is a UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity detective who is similarly incompetent, but eager-to-please rather than arrogant, and more aware of/confused by the chaos he's involved in than Clouseau ever was. Beyond having a different and ultimately blander character as the focus, the film itself comes off as lazy and cheap compared to its predecessors. Worse, not only was Creator/PeterSellers' Clouseau beloved, but ''Trail of...'' used outtakes of Sellers -- who had died two years prior -- to create a FakeShemp; essentially, writer-director-producer Creator/BlakeEdwards was accused of ''grave robbing'' just to set up a Replacement Scrappy! Edwards tried '''again''' at this 10 years later with ''Film/SonOfThePinkPanther'', via a ReVision of the events of ''Film/AShotInTheDark'' to bring us Clouseau's illegitimate Italian son (Roberto Benigni), but it also bombed and [[FranchiseKiller killed the original series for good]]. |
| 93 | * When Creator/RobertDuvall refused to return to ''Film/TheGodfatherPartIII'' over a salary dispute, his character Tom Hagen was replaced with a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, a lawyer named B.J. Harrison played by Creator/GeorgeHamilton. The character was universally loathed as, at best, a walking plot device, at worst a complete cipher who lacked Tom Hagen's charisma, history with the Corleones or personality beyond "officious lawyer." Especially galling to some fans since early drafts of the script featured a falling out between Tom and Michael Corleone as its central plot. |
| 94 | * In ''Film/{{Godzilla 2014}}'', Ford Brody's Base-Breaking qualities are intensified after he replaces his [[Creator/BryanCranston father]] as the protagonist of the film, in spite of the film's advertisements implying his dad would have a much bigger role. |
| 95 | * ''Franchise/IndianaJones'': |
| 96 | ** Several fans of the series have complained about the [[TokenRomance love]] [[GirlOfTheWeek interests]] in ''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom The Temple of Doom]]'' (Willie) and ''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade The Last Crusade]]'' (Elsa) in comparison to [[FirstGirlWins Marion]] in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk''. In ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull'', this is given a LampshadeHanging that produces a heartwarming moment. |
| 97 | ** Speaking of ''The Temple of Doom'', fans would ironically find Mutt Williams from ''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheKingdomOfTheCrystalSkull The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull]]'' this compared to Short Round. Despite Mutt being Indy’s biological son and Short Round just a [[ParentalSubstitute surrogate]], most fans find the latter’s bond vastly more touching and important (he even gets to wear the hat) with Mutt being seen by fans as a woeful InadequateInheritor to his iconic father, which is also partly due to some infamous scenes in the fourth movie and Creator/ShiaLaBeouf being a controversial actor in RealLife. [[spoiler:''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheDialOfDestiny'' would even go as far as killing his character off-screen.]] The fact that Short Round’s actor Creator/KeHuyQuan got a CareerResurrection with an Oscar only helped this fan sentiment. |
| 98 | * ''Film/JamesBond'': |
| 99 | ** Bond being played by multiple actors inevitably runs into this, with a few Bonds being seriously disliked compared to their predecessor. The first and most glaring example would be Creator/GeorgeLazenby taking over from Creator/SeanConnery in ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService'', which despite that film’s positives would cause a great deal of backlash from those who missed Connery and Lazenby himself feeling he had done the character a disservice and leaving, resulting in Connery returning for ''Film/DiamondsAreForever''. To a lesser degree, Creator/TimothyDalton was initially regard as this due to being DarkerAndEdgier compared to the lighthearted and [[{{camp}} campy]] Creator/RogerMoore but thanks to TurnOfTheMillennium Dalton’s 007 has become more appreciated for being TruerToTheText i.e Bond being a HeartbrokenBadass. Creator/DanielCraig in the initial lead up to ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' was this compared to Creator/PierceBrosnan (blonde Bond really?) but that '''quickly''' died down when the film came out. |
| 100 | ** Creator/BernardLee and Creator/LoisMaxwell's replacements as M and Miss Moneypenny, Robert Brown and Caroline Bliss, are generally seen as inferior replacements (though no fault of the actors). Brown was seen as too amiable and avuncular for the role and the fact that he was friends with Creator/RogerMoore made them seem more like work friends than superior and subordinate. While he worked better against Creator/TimothyDalton, his antagonistic portrayal in ''Film/LicenceToKill'' didn't help. Bliss' Moneypenny didn't make much of an impression (Dalton's tenure being cut short didn't help) and instead of the flirty banter, we have someone having a schoolgirl crush. Both their replacements, Creator/JudiDench and Creator/SamanthaBond, were much more well-received. It helps that they lasted much longer in the roles. |
| 101 | * ''Franchise/JurassicPark'': |
| 102 | ** ''Film/JurassicParkIII'' introduces ''Spinosaurus'' as a new dinosaur antagonist... and does so by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7tNqjsclhs having it]] {{Curb Stomp|Battle}} the long-established fan favourite, the ''Tyrannosaurus Rex''. Arguably one of the most infamous examples in film - for many years after the release of the film, documentary clips on Platform/YouTube featuring ''Spinosaurus'' were full of negative comments left by angry fans of the series. ''Film/JurassicWorld'' contains a big TakeThat to ''Spinosaurus'' by [[spoiler:having Rexie smash through a specimen's skeleton when she gets introduced in the film's climax]]. |
| 103 | ** Overlapping with FirstInstalmentWins the ''Film/JurassicWorld'' heroes Owen and Claire along with other supporting characters are often seen as replacement scrappies compared to Alan, Malcom and Ellie from the first movie. Likewise kid characters Zach, Gray and Maisie aren’t nearly as liked as Tim and Lex are. ''Film/JurassicWorldDominion'' eventually concedes defeat and [[TheBusCameBack brings back]] Alan, Malcom and Ellie alongside the new protagonists even if it results in a bloated cast for a ''Jurassic Park'' film. |
| 104 | * Creator/ValerieLemercier's roles in ''Film/LesVisiteurs'', Frénégonde de Pouille and Béatrice de Montmirail, were among the most lauded things about the film, especially her {{Sour Prude|s}} portrayal of Béatrice, to the point she won a César Award for Best Supporting Role. She refused to come back for the sequel, ''The Corridors of Time'', and was replaced in both roles by Muriel Robin (complete with a FlashbackWithTheOtherDarrin) and it didn't sit well -- she looks nothing like Lemercier, the writing of her Béatrice lacks the wit and nuance of Lemercier or interesting things to do, and she poorly tries to imitate the posh accent Lemercier had. |
| 105 | * ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'': |
| 106 | ** Fans were initially upset at Creator/DonCheadle for [[TheOtherDarrin replacing]] Creator/TerrenceHoward as [[Characters/MCUJamesRhodes War Machine]] in ''Film/IronMan2''. Comic fans, in particular, preferred Howard since his appearance was TruerToTheText. Fortunately, Cheadle eventually found his footing in the role and [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap became well-liked in his own right]]. |
| 107 | ** ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' set up [[Characters/SHIELDDirectors Sharon Carter]] to be Cap's new love interest, a move that annoyed fans of the enormously popular Peggy Carter, Steve's love interest from [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger the first movie]]. They especially took offense when Steve and Sharon got TheBigDamnKiss in the ''[[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar same movie]]'' as [[spoiler:Peggy's funeral]], something even Creator/HayleyAtwell was not pleased about. This may explain why she got the ChuckCunninghamSyndrome treatment after ''Civil War'' and [[spoiler:Atwell had the last laugh when Steve ends up dancing with and kissing Peggy in an alternate lifetime at the end of ''[[Film/AvengersEndgame Endgame]]''. [[FlipFlopOfGod Or something.]]]] |
| 108 | ** Two notable ones from the ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' mythos. |
| 109 | *** Much like Richard Parker in ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', [[Characters/MCUTonyStark Tony Stark]] gets ''a lot'' of flak from many Spider-Man fans for effectively removing Ben Parker's influence and impact on this version of Peter. Even those who don't want another on-screen rehash of Ben's DeathByOriginStory wished that the films at least mention him explicitly. |
| 110 | *** Michelle Jones being set up as Peter Parker's {{Love Interest|s}} annoyed fans who were holding out for [[Characters/MarvelComicsMaryJaneWatson Mary Jane Watson]]'s potential appearance in the MCU down the line. The fact that Michelle goes by MJ, which is Mary Jane's nickname, is a subject of contention among fans, which is further complicated when ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' reveals her last name is actually Watson all along and that she simply goes by Jones due to [[NomDeMom her issues with her father]]. Nonetheless, it's still not hard to find fans wanting a traditional MJ (especially since Creator/KirstenDunst wasn’t particularly accurate personality-wise to the comics either). |
| 111 | ** ''Film/BlackPantherWakandaForever'' unavoidably runs into this with the two {{Legacy Character}}s. |
| 112 | *** First is Riri Williams aka Ironheart, who was considered this compared to the late Iron Man. Now in all fairness Tony Stark was always gonna be a ToughActToFollow after an eleven movie saga and incredible CharacterDevelopment, but poor Riri still got harsh flak for stepping into his shoes (even the Iron Man fans that didn’t mind Riri still wished Rhodey would take the mantle instead). This was also conflated by the fact the movie isn’t about her and she has a smaller role in it, so her SuperheroOrigin into becoming Ironheart feels squeezed in and doesn’t have the narrative weight that Tony’s did. This was not helped by the special effects and design of Riri’s PoweredArmor not holding up as well as Tony’s. |
| 113 | *** Second and much more depressingly there’s Shuri taking over from T’Challa after Creator/ChadwickBoseman’s tragic passing leading to RealLifeWritesThePlot and Shuri taking the mantle. While it makes most sense for Shuri to take the title and has even canonically done so in the comics, a good deal of fans simply don’t like her in the role for variety of reasons (most common being the MCU version of Shuri being far removed from the source material and Shuri’s actress Creator/LetitiaWright's controversial anti-vaccination statements during filming). Even fans who like Shuri in the role despite the painful absence of T’Challa still felt Nakia, M’Baku or Okoye would’ve probably been better taking/sharing the title, one of the film’s writers confirmed both Nakia and M’Baku were seriously considered for taking on the mantle before they settled on Shuri. |
| 114 | ** Creator/KathrynNewton taking over Creator/EmmaFuhrmann as Cassie Lang in ''Film/AntManAndTheWaspQuantumania'' was controversial because Fuhrmann's a OneSceneWonder in ''Endgame'' while Newton took over the role just when Cassie underwent a drastic character shift has robbed many fans the wrong way. The fact that Fuhrmann was unceremoniously replaced between films didn't help matters (despite it not being Newton's fault). |
| 115 | * ''{{Film/Mean Girls 2}}'': Many fans of the original ''{{Film/Mean Girls}}'' consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naïve. Jo on the other hand, is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her father's job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative, and prefered starting rumours and talking behind people's backs rather than openly bullying them. While Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand, is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak. |
| 116 | * ''Film/TheMummyTombOfTheDragonEmperor'' features multiple of these. Most prominently there’s Creator/MariaBello [[TheOtherDarrin taking over]] from Creator/RachelWeisz as Evey and simply lacking what people adored about Eveline in the first place, particularly the chemistry with Rick. There’s also the grown up Alex taking over from his father as TheHero (the film initially intended to kill off Rick completely) which much like Mutt in ''The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull'' was a PassingTheTorch pretty much nobody wanted, due to Luke Ford just not having Creator/BrendanFraser’s charisma. To a much lesser extent there’s Emperor Han aka the Dragon Emperor who has some positives (being played by Creator/JetLi) but still considered pretty inferior to Imhotep. |
| 117 | * ''Film/TheNextKarateKid'': Dugan and the school security are generally seen as a poor replacement for Kreese and Cobra Kai. With them not even being proper martial artists, their insistence on acting like soldiers the way Cobra Kai did comes across as silly rather than threatening, and Dugan lacks the [[EvilIsHammy theatricality]] that made Kreese so entertaining. |
| 118 | * Lt. Mauser from ''Film/PoliceAcademy'' ''2'' and ''3'' comes off as a pretty poor substitute for Harris from the original. He has the same flavor of smug authoritarianism, but none of Harris' entertaining HamAndCheese that made him such a good comic foil for the protagonists' shenanigans. Harris would eventually reclaim his role in part 4, even inheriting Mauser's [[ProfessionalButtKisser personal suckup, Proctor]]. Nick Lassard and Kyle Connors from the later movies also come off as weak replacements for Mahoney, almost entirely lacking his easy charm and KarmicTrickster tendencies. |
| 119 | * ''Franchise/StarTrek'': |
| 120 | ** In ''Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock'' the shiny new Starship ''Excelsior'' threatens to be the Replacement Scrappy for the ''Enterprise''. This was actually going to happen for real in ''Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome'', but a backlash from fans caused the powers that be to rethink that plan. Apparently the backlash was so much that it was actually {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in the fourth movie, specifically during shuttle ride through Spacedock, where Sulu claims that he's hoping the former ''Enterprise'' crew would received the ''Excelsior'', to which Scotty scoffs at the idea and calls the ship a "bucket of bolts". Then the shuttle turns toward the ''Excelsior's'' direction (with the camera following throughout), making it seem like Sulu's wish was going to come true... only for the ''Enterprise''-A to appear behind the ''Excelsior''. You could almost hear the original theater audience's cheers at that point. |
| 121 | ** Between the third and fourth movies, the Creator/{{DC|Comics}} ''Star Trek'' comics did in fact have Kirk and Co. on the ''Excelsior''... except for Spock, who was given command of the science vessel ''Surak. By the time the fourth movie came out, the comics writers had put everything back in place... but this was one reason many fans thought the crew would wind up on ''Excelsior. Nice fake-out be the moviemakers to make us think (for all of 0.43 seconds) that this was happening. |
| 122 | ** Ironically enough, the ''Excelsior'' would become one of the most popular starships in the ST fandom, both due to its unique design (at the time) and for being captained by Sulu (replacing the original captain [[JerkAss Styles]]) in ''Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country''. One supposes this was partly due to ''not'' becoming the Replacement Scrappy as everyone feared, instead establishing itself as its own "character" from the ''Enterprise''. Almost burning out her engines to get to ''Enterprise'' in time to have her back, in the latter's final mission, against a cutting-edge prototype stealth warship probably didn't hurt either. |
| 123 | * ''Franchise/StarWars'': |
| 124 | ** ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'': Count Dooku is a very cool character in his own right, but at the time many fans dismissed him for not being [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Darth Maul]]. Who was himself very cool, but no Darth Vader. |
| 125 | ** For the prequels in general, Padmé is considered this compared to her iconic daughter Leia, who is more charismatic and sassier. Padmé getting unfortunate {{Chickification}} in ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' (infamously having DeathByDespair) wasn’t a point in her favour either. |
| 126 | ** ''Film/TheForceAwakens'': Does this again with Kylo Ren, the successor to Darth Vader. There's a section of fans that do like him but many find him not as cool or intimidating or badass. (Even InUniverse, he struggles to live up Vader's legacy and reputation). Kylo is also considered this by some ''Legends'' fans since he effectively takes Jacen, Jaina and Anakin II’s existence. |
| 127 | ** As a galactic conqueror, Snoke isn't exactly as popular as Emperor Palpatine and fans weren't impressed by how he got [[spoiler: killed in the second installment of the trilogy. It's eventually revealed in ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' that Snoke is a literal clone of Palpatine]]. |
| 128 | ** Rey in general for the SequelSeries was intended to replace Luke (the biggest hero in the franchise) which is a tall order for ''anyone'' and predictably did not go over well with a large section of fans when ''Film/TheLastJedi'' killed Luke off and ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' had Rey taking his surname as well. This was further not helped by ''Series/TheMandalorian'' and ''Series/TheBookOfBobaFett'' featuring a Luke in his prime being awesome, which only made particular fans bemoan the HijackedDestiny even more. Time will tell whether Rey’s upcoming solo film will rescue her from heavy dislike, like ''Clone Wars (2008)'' did with Ahsoka. |
| 129 | ** Fans of the old ''Legends'' continuity were annoyed at the creation of entire planets which seemed to serve no purpose other than distance the new trilogy from the old continuity. Of particular note, the Hosnian system serves no purpose that couldn't be filled by Coruscant or Chandrila (whether it's made better or worse by the system being [[spoiler:blown up immediately after its introduction depends on who you ask]]), and Ahch To replaces the beloved ''Legends'' planet [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Tython]]. [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Exegol]] is hit especially hard by this, as it seemingly combines elements of no less than ''three'' planets from ''Legends'', without adding anything new that couldn't be done by Dromund Kaas, Korriban (which was already canon) or Byss. The Ahch To complaint was alleviated somewhat by the reveal that Ahch To was considered a possibility for the origin of the Jedi Temple, with Tython being another, and Tython receiving both a short cameo in ''ComicBook/StarWarsDoctorAphra'' and its first ever live-action appearance in ''Series/TheMandalorian''. |
| 130 | * ''Film/SupermanIII'': While viewers were looking forward to see how Clark's relationship with [[Characters/SupermanLoisLane Lois Lane]] would develop, actress Creator/MargotKidder argued with the producers over the firing of original director Creator/RichardDonner. As a result she was reduced to a cameo, and her role as Superman's love interest filled by [[Characters/SupermanSupportingCast Lana Lang]]. However, [[InvertedTrope some fans wound up preferring Lana to Lois]], due to Lana being in love with Clark where Lois loved Superman. |
| 131 | * ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIII'': Walker is considered a major step down from the Shredder. |
| 132 | * ''Film/TheThreeStooges'': |
| 133 | ** Shemp replacing Curly after Curly suffered a stroke. Opinions on him vary, however, as the reasoning wasn't that he was a bad actor but rather that he was very different from Curly and the show dynamic changed because of it. Ironically, Curly was actually the replacement for Shemp, who was the third Stooge during their Vaudeville days, before Curly even began acting. This helped a lot, since his trademark "lovable dope" shtick might not have been the same as Curly's, but Shemp already had built-in comic chemistry with the other two, and was just as game for the physical humor. |
| 134 | ** On the other hand, Joe Besser is universally hated, largely due to Besser's contractual stipulation that Moe couldn't hit him; this was like a kiss of death for any shorts featuring him, since annoyingly clownish characters are tolerable only so long as their annoyance is appropriately punished. Indeed, Joe Besser rather than Shemp personifies this more, as Shemp tends to be more popular than not. |
| 135 | ** Curly Joe De Rita, for the most part, avoided this trope. He was brought in to play the third Stooge during their comeback, and managed to be an effective Stooge in his own right (and despite the name, he didn't act like Curly). It also helped that the guy he was replacing was the aforementioned (and widely hated) Besser, and by this stage in their career the Stooges had already toned down the slapstick violence anyway, as the guys were getting too old to convincingly smack each other around by the 1960's, and were also aiming to be more kid-friendly with their comedy. |
| 136 | * This happens in ''Film/TurboAPowerRangersMovie'' when Rocky get injured during martial arts practice and has to be replaced by [[spoiler:his generally more annoying younger brother]]. Behind the scenes this was done to help sell the movie to younger audiences and to fill in the blue ranger role after the actor who portrayed Rocky was hurt in a similar way. |
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| 139 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 140 | * The short story ''Johnny Come Lately'' by Marc Singer tells the story from the ''Scrappy's'' point of view; based heavily on the Franchise/GreenLantern furor outlined [[ReplacementScrappy/ComicBooks here]], it tells the story of a young man picked at random as the replacement for a well-admired superhero after his death and the destruction of his league by the sentient hourglass that was his symbol, who finds his every effort, no matter how sincere, sneered at and put down by ingrates [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer for no other reason]] than he's the new guy. The replacement isn't best pleased at his new lot in life. |
| 141 | * ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' regularly had characters (especially Luke) being [[DeusExitMachina written out]] temporarily. So ''Literature/ShadowsOfTheEmpire'' readers hate Dash Rendar for his similarity to Han Solo. (It takes place between ''Empire'' and ''Jedi''.) And ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' readers hate Kenth Hamner for trying to replace Luke. Oddly, Ben isn't hated, despite often being considered an {{Expy}} of Anakin Solo. Parodied with [[EldritchAbomination Abeloth]], who tries to impersonate Mara and Callista and gets the Replacement Scrappy treatment [[spoiler:(and a few fatal lightsaber wounds)]] from Luke himself for her efforts. |
| 142 | * Creator/VCAndrews fans don't much like Creator/AndrewNeiderman, her ghostwriter after she died. This intensified in recent years, due to the downward quality with each book published. |
| 143 | ** For the actual books, Annie Stonewall from the ''Literature/CasteelSeries'' is this for her mother Heaven in ''Gates of Paradise''. Fans found her to be incredibly whiny and spoiled compared to Heaven, and even fans that liked ''Gates of Paradise'' felt Annie was one of the worst parts about the book. |
| 144 | * The ''Literature/WarriorCats'' fanbase has had this reaction to a few characters. |
| 145 | ** In ''Forest of Secrets'', the third book in the series, Graystripe's mate Silverstream dies. Ten books later in ''The Sight'', Graystripe, who was captured by humans in ''Dawn'', returns to the Clans with a new mate called Millie. Millie has received a ton of hate, and most of it is for either not being Silverstream, or (among fans who completely ignore the aesop about racism) for being a former kittypet. |
| 146 | ** Cinderheart, the reincarnation of the snarky medicine cat Cinderpelt, is hated for being more optimistic and playful than her jaded previous incarnation. |
| 147 | ** In ''Sunrise'', [[spoiler:it was revealed that Hollyleaf, who was thought to be the subject of a prophecy, actually had no connection to the prophecy at all]]. When ''The Fourth Apprentice'' rolled around, [[spoiler:Dovewing, the true hero, started receiving bile due to how different she was from Hollyleaf]]. |
| 148 | * In ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'', following [[spoiler:Moiraine]]'s HeroicSacrifice, Rand got a new bossy female mentor-type thing in Cadsuane. Unfortunately, while [[spoiler:Moiraine]] was likeable and seemed to genuinely care about people, Cadsuane was a bossy know-it-all. |
| 149 | ** In fairness, this was likely mostly intentional, as the original was putting the Aes Sedai and co in danger of being sympathetic and the author needed to keep them firmly in antagonist territory for later plot development to work. If Rand thought they were probably inclined to be reasonable and negotiated the series probably would have come in at its original intended length instead of seven or eight times longer. |
| 150 | * ''Literature/TheWickedYears'' fans haven't taken much of an interest in Liir, who replaced Elphaba after she died. Being [[spoiler:Elphaba's son]] doesn't stop him from being TheScrappy, and may have been [[DieForOurShip even worse for his reputation]]. |
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| 153 | [[folder:Pro Wrestling]] |
| 154 | * Mitsuo Momota, son of the legendary Wrestling/{{Rikidozan}}, was a textbook example in the transition between JWA to Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling. Poor Momota's "legendary" for being inferior in every conceivable way. |
| 155 | * One of the most famous examples is Wrestling/LexLuger's {{face}} run in Wrestling/{{WW|E}}F, where he was essentially Wrestling/HulkHogan's Replacement Scrappy. Despite (or perhaps because of) him playing the AllAmericanFace to an even greater hilt than Hogan himself, the fans still saw him as a cheap imitation and hated him. [[CreatorsPet But the bookers kept trying, and trying, and trying to get him over...]] It didn't help that Luger's "Narcissist" gimmick was rather well-liked and was getting pretty over when it was just inexplicably dumped for the "Made in the USA" gimmick. It also didn't help that this happened just after [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell just after the Iron Curtain came down]] and the U.S. didn't really any RealLife conflicts going on - the ForeignWrestlingHeel ended up being [[Wrestling/{{Yokozuna}} a Samoan guy from California pretending to be Japanese]]. Thankfully, the booking team eventually got the message and aborted his planned title run, giving it to Wrestling/BretHart instead. |
| 156 | * When Crush (Wrestling/BrianAdams) joined Wrestling/{{Demolition}} in the WWF and eventually replaced Ax altogether. Similarly, Dino Bravo replacing Wrestling/BrutusBeefcake in the Dream Team. |
| 157 | * A ''deliberate'' invocation of the Replacement Scrappy trope was the [[Wrestling/{{Kane}} fake Diesel]] and fake Razor Ramon (Rick "Big Titan" Bogner, best known for his work in Wrestling/{{FMW}}), three months after Wrestling/ScottHall and Wrestling/KevinNash left for Wrestling/{{WCW}}. These two were introduced by a freshly {{Face Heel Turn}}ed Jim Ross specifically to embarrass Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and the Wrestling/{{WW|E}}F (there were legal issues involved as well). WWF was suing WCW at the time over Hall and Nash's appearance, claiming they were passing them off as Ramon and Diesel (the two were unnamed "invaders" at the time, and weren't named until their first [=PPV=] match, at ''WCW Bash at the Beach 96'', where Wrestling/HulkHogan turned heel to launch the [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder nWo]]). New characters with the same names (intentional Replacement Scrappy or not) was a clear sign that WWF intended to use and enforce the trademarked names. |
| 158 | * [[Characters/WWECommentators Jonathan Coachman]] and, to a lesser extent, Wrestling/JoeyStyles got this when they replaced Wrestling/JimRoss as the play-by-play announcer for ''[[Wrestling/{{WWERaw}} Raw]]''. |
| 159 | ** Joey Styles only got the job for two reasons: 1. WWE failed to snag [[UsefulNotes/UltimateFightingChampionship UFC]] commentator Mike Goldberg, and 2. the general consensus was that Joey was the only possible choice that would not be seen as a Replacement Scrappy by the fanbase. And, while he still did get a bit of heat over it (FanDumb being what it is), most of the criticism of Joey actually came from the upper management, who hated his style from the very start and constantly exhorted him to call the matches more like Jim Ross used to (i.e. with less emphasis on play-by-play and more emphasis on "telling the story" of the match). It seems WWE will never be satisfied with any replacement until they can find somebody exactly like Jim Ross, but younger, less Southern, and more telegenic (in other words: Crockett Promotions-era Jim Ross), while the fans will not be satisfied until they can find somebody exactly like Jim Ross, but better able to call the moves. Either way, it shows why Jim Ross is generally thought to be irreplaceable. |
| 160 | *** On the plus side, Matt Striker has taken his place on ''[=SmackDown=]!'', but his ECW replacement (Byron Saxton) isn't exactly a perfect substitute, though popular enough. |
| 161 | *** The hatred (and the 'Cole Miners' fanbase) for Michael Cole in 2010-2012 (largely due to his ridiculous fanboying of Wrestling/TheMiz) until the writers gave him legitimate CharacterDevelopment and became a damn near evil heel and gave him a real feud (and ''Wrestling/{{WrestleMania}} 27'' match) against Wrestling/JerryLawler. That being said, the angle was pretty bad and got dragged out a lot longer than it needed to be. Also the ''[=SmackDown=]'' table was joined by Wrestling/BookerT. He got turned face again, and [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap saved]], possibly for life, after the Lawler heart attack. |
| 162 | ** Wrestling/MichaelCole seems to have somewhat avoided this when Ross was moved to ''Wrestling/SmackDown'' rather than simply taken off TV. Mostly because he was already TheScrappy to begin with. |
| 163 | ** And Wrestling/MikeAdamle got this for replacing Styles (who retired from play-by-play announcing out of the blue) on ECW. When he became Raw's General Manager (ironically, the previous GM Wrestling/WilliamRegal returned from suspension on the same day), ''his'' replacement of Todd Grisham is probably seen as an improvement. |
| 164 | * While Perro Aguayo Jr. became very popular after only a sort time in Wrestling/{{AAA}}, he was met with vitriol by fans attending Wrestling/{{CMLL}} shows, who found his father far more entertaining. However, Aguayo's persistence, some clever booking and the Perros Del Mal stable headed alongside Hector Garza lead to him [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap becoming one of the CMLL's biggest stars]]. |
| 165 | * When Wrestling/JerryLawler left the WWF in 2001, his replacement, Wrestling/PaulHeyman, got all kinds of crazed hatred from a fanbase demanding that Jerry be brought back. Heyman actually did a phenomenal job as commentator...which became all the more apparent when Jerry came back and proceeded to completely mail in his performance for the next decade. Heyman started gaining his fair share of fans over his months as an announcer, so when he was booted for the returning Lawler, Lawler got his share of this as well. |
| 166 | * When legendary Japanese wrestler Hayabusa was rendered paralyzed and had to end his career, the FMW bookers quickly grabbed a development talent and gave him a vaguely similar character named GARUDA ("Hayabusa" is the Japanese word for falcon, while Garuda is the Sanskrit word for eagle). Needelessly to say, it didn't work. |
| 167 | * This concept might go a long way in explaining ''why'' Xavier is the least celebrated of the men to have held the Wrestling/RingOfHonor Championship belt. The first champion Wrestling/LowKi was naturally a contender for the most popular man in the promotion but his title reign was over almost as soon as it got started, in favor of a man with a superficially similar wrestling style but lacking Low Ki's distinctive look, aggression, intensity and BaritoneOfStrength on top of being a DirtyCoward instead of a SpiritedCompetitor ChallengeSeeker. And while a title match between Low Ki and Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels would have been the most predictable way to go, [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools it wasn't as if fans would have complained about it]]. |
| 168 | * In their unexplained release of Wrestling/DanielPuder, a proven, respected participant of the popular combat sport called UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts, WWE doomed Wrestling/TheMiz, the runner up to the Wrestling/WWEToughEnough contest that Puder won by fan vote, to this status. It didn't help that Miz talked about having to overcome the stigma of not coming from something like MMA during his early years in the wrestling industry, which only drew more minds to Puder and the program with Wrestling/KurtAngle that WWE thoughtlessly threw away. |
| 169 | * When Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling decided it didn't have any more use for most of its {{masked luchador}}s, Black Tiger III ended up back in CMLL but in 2005, NJPW decided it wanted Black Tiger again and rather than simply call Black Tiger III back, they made Rocky Romero Black Tiger IV. IV was well received but his existence made CMLL change Black Tiger III to El Bronco, who wasn't. [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Black Tiger III became a replacement scrappy to himself!]] |
| 170 | * When WWC found out it could no longer book its long running top star, Ray González, they needed someone to fill his spot. Who did they choose? [[Wrestling/SeanWaltman X-Pac]], yes, [[XPacHeat that one]]. Oh, and when they couldn't get WWE to let them have more time with Wrestling/{{Carl|ito Colon}}y, guess who was used to fill in for him? That's right, X-Pac again! |
| 171 | * The Latin American Exchange suddenly had a lot more fans when Mexican America formed in [[Wrestling/TotalNonstopActionWrestling TNA]]. |
| 172 | * Alex Riley and [[Wrestling/CurtisAxel Michael McGillicutty]] unfortunately became hit with this status when once again, WWE hosted a fan voted contest, in this case NXT, and once again the voted winner of the contest, [[Wrestling/LowKi Kaval]] in this case, vanished. |
| 173 | * [[Wrestling/AndradeCienAlmas La Sombra]] and Volador junior were among CMLL's most loved and hated luchadors in 2013 but their mask vs mask match at the 80th anniversary show of the promotion was not well received by the fans, as to take place it had to deny them of a mask vs mask match between Último Guerrero and the legendary Atlantis, which they had been waiting decades to see. |
| 174 | * Wrestling/RomanReigns has somehow managed to become this for '''''Wrestling/JohnCena''''', of all people. What it comes down to is the "Superman" character they're both playing, and the fact that whoever is playing that character gets to be THE top guy, which is strange. The character is hated by everybody who isn't under the age of ten or a woman. That's why Cena was such a {{Base Break|ingCharacter}}er. That being said, for how much fans hated Cena over it, he at least made it ''bearable''. Reigns' run with the character has gotten so bad that even the smarks miss Cena, and many are starting to speculate (half-jokingly, half-not) that this is all some grand master plan of Wrestling/VinceMcMahon [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees to get Cena universally over with the IWC]]. |
| 175 | * Deliberately [[InvokedTrope invoked]] with Wrestling/JasonJordan in regards to Wrestling/TheShield. After [[Wrestling/JonMoxley Dean Ambrose]] got put on the shelf for nine months, Jordan's {{kayfabe}} father Wrestling/KurtAngle allowed Jordan to replace Ambrose as Wrestling/SethRollins' tag team partner, allowing them to win the RAW Tag Team Titles. Jordan subsequently tried to take Ambrose's place in the Shield. That's where the invoked part comes into play -- not only did the fans hate Jordan for trying, but so did the Shield themselves. Rollins can barely tolerate Jordan (with it becoming increasingly obvious how much he wants Ambrose in Jordan's place), only does so for the titles, and finds his patience increasingly worn out by Jordan landing them in unnecessary fights. Wrestling/RomanReigns can't even bother with that much, having taken Ambrose's injury really badly and blatantly hating Jordan as a result. |
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| 178 | [[folder:Radio]] |
| 179 | * Directly addressed in ''Radio/AdventuresInOdyssey''. Over the course of two loosely-connected episodes, Whit turns out to have [[CharacterOutlivesActor left for the Middle East]] off-camera while his friend Jack Allen is introduced. Jack winds up taking over as manager of Whit's End, as well as approximating Whit's original role to the point where Connie freaks out and accuses Jack of trying to "replace" him. She gets over it by the end of the episode, thanks in part to Jack himself acknowledging that neither he nor anyone else could ever replace Whit. |
| 180 | * After longtime radio broadcaster Radio/PaulHarvey died in 2009, his two radio shows (''Paul Harvey's News and Comment'' and ''The Rest of the Story'') were replaced by similar formats hosted by ABC radio staffers Gil Gross and Doug Limerick, both of whom had filled in for Harvey when he was ill. Despite this, Gross's and Limerick's shows lasted ''three weeks'' before being canned for ''The Huckabee Report''. |
| 181 | * Radio/TerryWogan made a truly heroic effort to prevent this when Radio/ChrisEvans took over his morning slot on BBC Radio 2, aided and abetted by the fact that at least nobody was foolish enough to try to find a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Wogan. Audience reactions were mixed, to say the least, and generally varied, according to whether you could stand the drivetime show Evans had been hosting previously, and how much you missed Radio/SarahKennedy, whose immediately preceding show was shortened and sidelined to give Evans more airtime. [[note]]Kennedy left the BBC for reasons which are still shrouded in mystery. Conspiracy theorists still speculate on this.[[/note]] |
| 182 | * What had been Sarah's early morning show - cut in length and pushed back to a far earlier starting time to accommodate Evans - is currently being presented by her successor, Vanessa Feltz, a woman who had an embarrassingly public CreatorBreakdown on ''Celebrity Big Brother''. Fans of Sarah Kennedy tend to consider Vanessa is pretty much a Replacement Scrappy. |
| 183 | ** When Radio/ChrisEvans announced he would leave the breakfast show (in September 2018), it was feared that his fan-base would regard the eventual successor as a Replacement Scrappy and that person was going to have a tough time. This ended up being more or less averted, however; said successor turned out to be Creator/ZoeBall, who got some flak, but not as much as was anticipated. |
| 184 | * ''Radio/AmericanCountryCountdown'' fired longtime host Bob Kingsley in 2005 and replaced him with Kix Brooks of Music/BrooksAndDunn. Many longtime fans of the show dislike Kix Brooks for his high, whiny voice and "chummy" attitude towards artists, as well as the corporate decision to cut the show from 40 to 30 because program directors were "uncomfortable" with the newness of the 31-40 songs (the show later reverted to 40). He was also derided for modernizing the show too much -- while the songs that Bob played between countdown slots could often be up to 20 years old, Kix quickly refused to play anything more than a year or two old. Kix also seems to lack Bob's interest in showing historical behind-the-scenes info on songs, to the point that [[CowboyBebopAtHisComputer he constantly gets chart information and even artists' names wrong]]. Meanwhile, many professional deejays hate Kix for quickly rising in the ranks of professional radio hosts despite a lack of experience. But fans of Kingsley had little to worry about, as he promptly moved over to ''Radio/BobKingsleysCountryTop40'', which was nearly identical to the format that ''ACC'' used when he was still the host and did not change until Kingsley died in 2019. |
| 185 | * The show from which ''ACC'' spun off, ''Radio/AmericanTop40'', went through something similar when co-creator and longtime host Creator/CaseyKasem left the show over a contract dispute in 1988, and was replaced by Shadoe Stevens, a move that for many fans signaled the beginning of the end for the show. Stevens himself was disliked simply because he didn't have the style, charm, or personality of Kasem (similarly to Bob Kingsley above, many previously-loyal listeners ended up jumping ship to Kasem's SpiritualSuccessor program, ''Casey's Top 40'', which began the year after Kasem left ''[=AT40=]''), but his years on the program were also marred with attempts at appealing to a YoungerAndHipper audience. As a result, the show was removed from American airwaves in 1994 and cancelled altogether in 1995. |
| 186 | ** Nine years later, in 2004, Kasem took his second (and final) bow from the program (which had been UnCanceled in 1998), to be replaced by the current host, ''Series/AmericanIdol''[='s=] Ryan Seacrest. There was a lot less said about the changeover this time around, probably because Kasem retired instead of leaving over a contract dispute; still, many longtime fans still don't hold Seacrest (or the current iteration of the show, for that matter) in nearly as high a regard. |
| 187 | * Due to a syndicate merger, two rival shows focusing on classic CountryMusic were subject to this. ''Country Gold'' replaced longtime host Rowdy Yates with Music/{{Alabama}} lead singer Randy Owen in mid-2012, while ''Rick Jackson's Country Hall of Fame'' was ended entirely due to the syndicate not wanting two similar shows. Under Owen's watch, ''Country Gold'' was cut from 5 hours to 4, and listener requests were voicemailed instead of taken live. Randy was criticized both for his sleepy delivery (a far cry from Rowdy's more boisterous tones) and for focusing the show more on ass-kissing stories about fellow artists instead of the historical tidbits that Rowdy offered. Once rights issues were settled, both Rowdy and Rick started new shows, ''The Original Country Gold'' and ''Rick Jackson's Country Classics'' respectively, both of which were identical to their predecessors. As a result, [[http://www.insideradio.com/Article.asp?id=2638560&spid=32061#.UxKlvV7eqvk many affiliates]] who had been stuck with Randy Owen switched back to Rowdy and/or Rick once their new shows got off the ground. Randy's show struggled to find affiliates, to the point that many doubted that it was even airing anywhere, until a March 2016 announcement that Canadian country singer Terri Clark would take his place and the show would begin focusing more on 90's material. |
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| 190 | [[folder:Sports]] |
| 191 | * The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3YhJo7x1ww Because It's The Cup]] commercials promoting the 2012 [[UsefulNotes/TheStanleyCup Stanley Cup]] playoffs. Pretty good in their own right, but few are happy to see them replacing [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM1n4BhJ9zE History Will Be Made]]. |
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| 194 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 195 | * The ''Tome of Battle'' classes in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' 3.5 are often acknowledged as some of the best-designed in the game, being fun, reasonably powerful, and very capable of doing their jobs. However, the fact that they seemed to be designed after certain older classes (warblade as fighter, crusader as paladin, swordsage as monk), while also being considerably better than them earned them no small amount of scorn from fans of those classes, who thought ''Tome of Battle'' signaled that Wizards was giving up on them. The mild-to-moderate {{Animesque}} nature of the classes in question didn't help. |
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| 197 | |
| 198 | [[folder:Theme Parks]] |
| 199 | * In general, whenever a theme park closes a ride for a new one, many fans of the old ride won't be too thrilled with the new ride. |
| 200 | * The above especially applies to Ride/DisneyThemeParks. Usually examples are mixed with a nice helping of TheyChangedItNowItSucks for attractions that get revamps. |
| 201 | ** Disneyland's most well-known example is Light Magic, a rather underwhelming replacement for the world famous {{Long Runner|s}} Main Street Electrical Parade. Being stripped of the Electrical Parade has haunted Disneyland fans for years.[[note]]This is a very good example of why sometimes the TheyChangedItNowItSucks folks are actually right. The differences can partially be summarized by saying that MSEP was a parade (so all viewers got approximately the same show), while LM was essentially a mobile theatrical performance (so viewers where the floats stopped got the actual show, and viewers in between stops got to watch the floats roll past).[[/note]] |
| 202 | ** Actually, this is true whenever a new Disneyland parade or show replaces an old one. See Parade of Dreams vs. Celebrate! A Street Party. This will usually wear off after a while if the show is any good, though. Subverted with Celebrate!'s replacement, Mickey's Soundsational Parade. |
| 203 | ** [[Ride/WaltDisneyWorld Epcot's]] Imagination pavilion has Nigel Channing, who replaced Dreamfinder as the host of a revamp of its dark ride. Unusually for this trope, he predated the revamp; he was imported from the popular 3-D ''Honey, I Shrunk the Audience'' in an attempt to tie all of the pavilion's attractions together. Then again, the Journey Into Imagination revamps are largely TheyChangedItNowItSucks anyway, thanks in part to penny-pinching on the part of Ride/DisneyThemeParks at the time. |
| 204 | ** Also, ''Ride/StitchsGreatEscape'', which replaced ''The Ride/ExtraTERRORestrialAlienEncounter''. The horror show in the dark premise of the original production was replaced with a ''comedy'' show in the dark, which only served to annoy adults while still frightening children. |
| 205 | ** When ''Ride/TheHauntedMansion'' at Disneyland replaced their [[IWillWaitForYou Mourning Bride character]] with the more modern [[BlackWidow Constance Hatchway]], with updated effects and a more sinister personality, casual park visitors responded fairly well to her; but [[BrokenBase many]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks die-hard]] Mansion fans did not react well to the new character. |
| 206 | *** Similarly, while casual park visitors enjoy the seasonal ''Haunted Mansion Holiday'' overlay, die-hard Mansion fans dislike it based on the fact that Halloween would be the perfect time to enjoy the ''normal'' Mansion rather than one themed for Christmas. |
| 207 | ** Needless to say, countless fans were downright outraged when ''Ride/TheTwilightZoneTowerOfTerror'' at Disney California Adventure was re-themed into ''[[Ride/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyMissionBreakout Guardians of the Galaxy - MISSION: BREAKOUT]]'' in 2017. At least the Florida version at Disney's Hollywood Studios still exists, and there's also a version at Walt Disney Studios Paris which is an identical clone of the California Tower of Terror[[note]]In fact, if it weren't for California Adventure needing an emergency attendance boost, Paris's Tower of Terror would've been built first[[/note]]. |
| 208 | ** Upon the arrival of ''Disney's Enchantment'' in Magic Kingdom, an overwhelming amount of fans were split on whether it was a good firework spectacular. Several fans of the previous show ''Happily Ever After'' were very underwhelmed and demanded they bring it back following the [[MilestoneCelebration 50th anniversary celebrations]]. Others however, thought it was something among the likes of, "not as good as its predecessor but still a very impressive and well made show." |
| 209 | * In late 2007, Ride/UniversalStudios closed ''Ride/BackToTheFutureTheRide'' to replace it with ''Ride/TheSimpsonsRide''. To say that the fans of the former weren't happy is an understatement. This is the reason why the new ride's queue video loop includes an original segment in which Professor Frink attempts to use TimeTravel [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong to keep the Institute of Future Technology from being replaced with Krustyland]], and instead [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast ensures that it is]]. From there, Doc Brown takes up Krusty's offer of employment at his park! |
| 210 | * ''Ride/FastAndFuriousSupercharged'' is this to both ''Ride/{{Disaster}}'' and ''Theatre/BeetlejuicesGraveyardRevue'', two long-standing fan favorites that were closed to make room for it. The new ride turned out to be very light on content and action, further upsetting fans. |
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| 212 | |
| 213 | [[folder:Toys]] |
| 214 | * {{Franchise/Barbie}} was with Ken for forty-three years before Creator/{{Mattel}} decided to have them break up so she could date Blaine, an Australian surfer. Sales meant that their relationship was significantly shorter. |
| 215 | * Way before the ''BIONICLE'' - ''Hero Factory'' debacle, LEGO received scorn for replacing their original foray into the world of buildable robotic action figures, ''Toys/{{Slizer}}'', with the much more esoteric ''Toys/RoboRiders'', which were weird-looking alien motorbikes instead of posable action figures. The line wasn't a success, and for its follow-up (''BIONICLE''), they went back to and refined the ''Slizer'' formula instead. |
| 216 | * ''Toys/HeroFactory'' used to be this for many ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' fans, particularly those who were in it for the story rather than the toys. As for the toys, the "CCBS" building system introduced in ''Hero Factory'', which completely replaced ''BIONICLE''[='s=] older style, is more divisive with a fair share of supporters, despite what many haters say. |
| 217 | * There's a fair amount of people who [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks didn't take kindly to Hasbro's decision to redesign]] the Generation 3 line of Franchise/MyLittlePony toys. Originally looking like traditional ponies, the characters all got a SuperDeformed design that some felt was creepy. The negative reaction to these [[FanNickname Generation]] 3.5 ponies may well have reached Hasbro, as the toys ran for only around one and a half years before they released Generation 4, which have proportions much closer to those of the original toys. |
| 218 | ** The official talking Princess Celestia doll is effectively a replacement scrappy for the actual character. Not only has [[WordOfGod Hasbro admitted that]] they made her [[ShowAccuracyToyAccuracy pink instead of white]] [[ExecutiveMeddling because apparently]] [[PanderingToTheBase pink ponies sell better to girls]] (and making it worse, there's a picture of the actual, white character on the toy's box art), but they replaced [[Creator/NicoleOliver her TV show voice actress]] and her original [[TheMentor wise personality]] with [[InNameOnly a bunch of vacuous, vain phrases]] [[TheOtherDarrin spouted by another actor who sounds more like a]] ValleyGirl than a princess. |
| 219 | * Not a whole lot of ''Toys/RockRaiders'' fans were pleased by ''Toys/LEGOPowerMiners''. Although the quality of the sets themselves had improved, the lime/orange color scheme, less-memorable characters, and goofier Rock Monsters made ''Power Miners'' seem inferior to their predecessors. |
| 220 | * From the ''[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Transformers Generations]]'' "Combiner Wars" line, Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook are seen as this for Slingshot, Wildrider, and Groove respectively. It doesn't help that these new characters got almost no narrative function during the then-running IDW Comics (with Rook even casually being murdered while in a coma), in contrasts to their predecessors who at least ''had'' personalities. While an AuthorsSavingThrow has been made with Slingshot and Wildrider being released later ([[WritingAroundTrademarks As Quickslinger and Brake-Neck respectively]]), [[DemotedToExtra Groove (as a Legends class figure) now only appears as an accessory to Defensor]]. |
| 221 | ** An AuthorsSavingThrow has now been given to Groove as well, who got a Deluxe toy of his own in Japan, and later in America. And he even got to keep his name, too. |
| 222 | ** Rook also gets off a bit more lightly than the other two with his toy widely considered to be one of the best in the line. |
| 223 | ** The highly unpopular "One-Step Changers", Authentics, and other simplified ''Transformers'' merch aimed strictly at very young kids started replacing much of the "regular" toy lines in Europe in the early 2010s. Many large retailer chains carry them in mass quantities, with the more detailed and highly regarded ''Generations'' toys, which for years have been unavailable, still being rare and hard to find. The alleged reason for this distribution method is that there aren't as many older fans living in the affected territories as in the States or Japan, and low-quality, simplified toys based on current cartoons or movies are easier to sell to kids. |
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| 225 | |
| 226 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 227 | * One of the original Website/{{Neopets}} was the [[https://bookofages.jellyneo.net/species/eyrie/ Cerpull]], a dragon-like creature said to be a ferocious killer. Then in July 2000, it was replaced with the LighterAndSofter-looking Tatsu, with a chubbier body, its sharp edges rounded out, and its spikes replaced with a fluffy mane. This being [[TurnOfTheMillennium the year 2000]], the relatively edgy Cerpull appealed far more to kids of the day, and former Cerpull owners hated the Tatsu and flocked to TNT with complaints, to the point where it was replaced ''again'' a measly six months later with the Eyrie. However, twenty years later, it's starting to gain a small number of fans who felt it was [[AlasPoorScrappy dealt a raw deal due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time]]. Inverted with the Eyrie, however, who [[BreakoutCharacter became even more of a fan-favorite and site staple than the Cerpull ever was]], leaving both of its former identities as a mere footnote in Neopian history. |
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| 229 | |
| 230 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 231 | * When WebVideo/{{Jon|Tron}} left ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'' and Danny of ''Music/NinjaSexParty'' took his place, he initially got hit with this reaction by half the fanbase (the others accepting him and trying to calm the angry half down). Ironically, as time passed and Danny [[GrowingTheBeard grew into his title]] as Not So Grump, he would eventually become an [[InvertedTrope inverted]] example and exceed Jon in popularity. |
| 232 | * Although she's not really TheScrappy, some ''WebVideo/{{lonelygirl15}}'' fans have complained that Emma "replaced [[spoiler:Bree]]." |
| 233 | * LetsPlay/PartyCrashers: InUniverse example. As shown in "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEvFZ8B1M2M they made a good Mario Party game]]", Nick and Sophist ''hate'' Tumble for replacing Toad in ''VideoGame/MarioParty3'': |
| 234 | -->'''Nick:''' Fuck you, Tumble! I ''hate'' Tumble, bro.\ |
| 235 | '''Sophist:''' Yeah, who the hell invited Tumble to the party? |
| 236 | * When the eighteenth season of ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'', ''Zero'', ditched the old cast (only two reappear right away, and a third shows up during the season), new protagonists Shatter Squad were soon disliked for being nowhere as interesting as the Blood Gulch crew, thanks to having bland and cliched personalities and rushed or non-existent character arcs. |
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| 238 | |
| 239 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 240 | * ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': Both Gumbald and GOLB are seen as this to the show's former BigBad, the Lich, in Season 9. Gumbald is considered an uninteresting antagonist that lacks the Lich's [[KnightOfCerebus menace]] and [[EvilIsCool coolness]]. Meanwhile, GOLB, despite being the Lich's superior and the show's GreaterScopeVillain, didn't get a chance to do much due to a lack of screen time and had no real character to speak of, to the point where he came off as a GenericDoomsdayVillain. It doesn't help that [[ToughActToFollow the Lich is often considered one of the best cartoon villains of the New 10's]]. |
| 241 | * The character of Hurkel from the third and final season of ''WesternAnimation/TheAnimalsOfFarthingWood'' is seen as this, due to being a CanonForeigner replacement for Badger (who [[DeathByAdaptation died in the second season of the show]]). |
| 242 | * ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' developed Optimus Primal into a religious leader, while Cheetor stepped up into his place as a SupportingLeader. The new writers introduced Nightscream [[ReplacementFlatCharacter to fill in Cheetor's old role as the kid]]. Unfortunately, Cheetor was ''designed'' to grow from a naive and hot-headed newbie to a capable fighter and leader, while Nightscream was just a moody teen. It also doesn't help that Nightscream was outright unlikable at times, like when he mocked the other Maximals for losing the Beast Wars to the point [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Rattrap]] warned him to shut his mouth, because he lost friends in that war. |
| 243 | * In ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'', Fasttrack is highly disliked among the fanbase, due to his powers and coloration seeming ''very'' similar to that of [=XLR8=], who is a fan favorite and a series mainstay since the original show. There had been other "replacement" Omnitrix forms before, but they always had unique traits that let them develop voices of their own; Fasttrack ''didn't'' have that. WordOfGod's claims that he's faster and stronger have provoked a few [[CreatorsPet favoritism]] accusations. It seems most of the show's staff didn't like him that much either, seeing as he was ''deliberately'' left out of the next series, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', which had made a point to bring almost every form back. |
| 244 | * In ''Westernanimation/Ben10Omniverse'', the villains of the show suffered this. The first new BigBad was Malware, a scary and amoral mechamorph who was beloved by fans. When he was defeated, he was replaced with characters like the Incurseans, the Rooters, and Maltruant. None of the new villains were able to generate even remotely the level of interest that Malware had, being seen as pale imitations. One of the biggest reasons for the show's SeasonalRot was that Malware's absence left a directionless hole that couldn't be filled. Worse yet, the show was cancelled just as Malware was set to return in a big way. |
| 245 | * Fans of ''WesternAnimation/BluesClues'' absolutely hate Joe for the simple fact that he replaced Steve, and for only that reason. It didn't help that the show underwent some major retooling not long after he was cast. Naturally, the actor took the brunt of the backlash despite having nothing to do with, say, live-action puppet sequences. Steve did make a few later appearances, but Joe still took over his role as presenter, which viewers hated. |
| 246 | * Many assumed that the reason Oopsy was introduced in ''WesternAnimation/CareBearsAdventuresInCareALot'' was to replace Good Luck Bear... which he technically didn't. Good Luck Bear was {{demoted to extra}} for reasons unknown, which may be the reason for the common assumption. |
| 247 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'' webisodes, Jay Sherman's new make-up lady/girlfriend Jennifer is this, replacing his original make-up woman Doris and his ''actual'' girlfriend Alice Tompkins, both of whom are loved characters from the original TV series. In this case, the substitution itself was mildly justified because neither character's voice actor was available (Doris's had died and Alice's had retired). |
| 248 | * When ''WesternAnimation/TheFantasticFour1978'' was in development, a prior contract with Universal was already in place for a potential Human Torch movie, which kept him from being used. So they replaced him with HERBIE, Reed Richards' assistant robot. The irony here is that Johnny Storm was originally a replacement himself. Oddly, fans didn't mind when HERBIE was added to the comics. The Torch ''wasn't'' kept out of those. |
| 249 | * Fans of ''WesternAnimation/AGoofyMovie'' aren't very fond of Mona from ''WesternAnimation/MickeysTwiceUponAChristmas'', who replaces Roxanne as Max's girlfriend. She's also a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, right down to sharing the same voice actress. Apparently she ''was'' going to be Roxanne at first, but the animators had a hard time rendering her floppy hair in CGI. So they created a new character, rather than [[FridgeLogic just say that Roxanne got a haircut]]. |
| 250 | * [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] with LANOS in ''WesternAnimation/GreenLanternTheAnimatedSeries''. Partway into the series, the Science Director decides to decommission [[SpaceshipGirl Aya]] (over the objections of her crewmates) and foists a new, non-sapient AI called LANOS on them as a replacement. The Green Lanterns all immediately hate him, dismissing him as an annoying, LiteralMinded [[ArtificialStupidity moron]] with no real value. Getting Aya back quickly becomes their first priority. [[spoiler:And yet, in the end, he ends up being RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, in-universe and out; when [[FaceHeelTurn the Anti-Monitor-corrupted Aya]] is threatening to destroy the heroes, LANOS [[HeroicSacrifice bravely gives his life to save his crew]] and afterwards you can tell [[DeconstructedTrope everyone feels kinda bad for not giving him a chance to prove himself until it was too late]].]] |
| 251 | * Subverted in-show in ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy''. In one episode, Mandy and Grim replace Billy with a new friend named Bobby. The two of them wind up thinking Bobby is ''better'' than Billy ever was, much to Billy's horror. Eventually though, Billy destroyed Bobby with Grim's scythe, and Mandy doesn't even care, showing that even liking someone better than Billy doesn't mean she ''likes'' them. |
| 252 | * Another voice actor example in ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'': Arnold had four voice actors throughout the series (five if you count the pilot episode), but his final voice actor, Creator/AlexDLinz is near-universally disliked by the fandom for two reasons. One, Linz's voice was higher-pitched than the previous actors making Arnold sound too young (much like Myles Jeffery above). Two, he replaced Spencer Klein, who most fans consider to be ''the'' Arnold despite the fact that Klein was the third person to voice him [[note]]though he lasted the longest, his take on Arnold is how fanfic writers usually portray him and unlike his predecessors [[Creator/LaneToran Toran Caudell]] and Phillip Van Dyke, Klein did not portray any other character after his voice broke.[[/note]] and played Arnold when he was at his most bland (as Arnold became an OutOfFocus, VanillaProtagonist to allow other characters to develop). Linz only voices Arnold in the last three episodes and when the GrandFinale known as ''[[WesternAnimation/HeyArnoldTheJungleMovie The Jungle Movie]]'' was UnCanceled, they cast Mason Vale Cotton (who sounds closer to the others) as Arnold. |
| 253 | * The Stingers are this to The Misfits in ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}''. They're more {{Base Break|ingCharacter}}ers than true Scrappies though. For one Riot is a male lead singer, when previously all the bands were all-female. More important though is Riot [[DieForOurShip likes Jem]]. He's indifferent to Jerrica but loves her alter ego Jem, saying she is the perfect women and he is the perfect man so they are destined for each other. Jem was already in a confusing love triangle involving Rio and herself, never mind Riot and Minx (who wants Rio). There's also the issue that the [[EnsembleDarkhorse beloved]] Misfits were put on the bench for The Stingers. Romance was emphasized heavily in the third season. Some fans think The Stingers are why the show was cancelled but the reality was Hasbro wasn't liking the toy sales. |
| 254 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' (similar to ''Star Wars''[='s=] SequelSeries) had its cast be considered this by certain fans compared to their adored predecessors. Korra’s hot headed immaturity and shallow behaviour as the Avatar in Book 1 made her disliked to a section of fans in comparison to Aang, though to the show’s credit this formed part of Korra’s CharacterDevelopment afterwards with her growing as a person and moving out of Aang’s shadow. Similarly Bolin was considered inferior to Sokka and Toph whose shoes he was filling as the comic relief and the group’s Earthbender (though Toph herself would come back) but he managed to become one of the show’s most liked characters over time. Probably the one that plays this straight is Mako, whom despite being a clear substitute for fellow brooding pretty boy Zuko, is nowhere near as liked by the fans. |
| 255 | * ''WesternAnimation/LegendsOfChima'' is widely considered this by fans of ''WesternAnimation/{{Ninjago}}'' (''Chima'' began the same year ''Ninjago'' was originally intended to end) and the 2011 version of ''WesternAnimation/{{ThunderCats|2011}}'' (the main character of ''Chima'' is Lion-O in LEGO form, even though the similarities end there). It's gotten to the point where the art director for ''[=ThunderCats=] 2011'' thinks that ''Chima'' is a ''[=ThunderCats=]'' knock-off. |
| 256 | * ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'': |
| 257 | ** Buddy was a character created in 1933 by then director Earl Duvall to replace the studio's previous star, WesternAnimation/{{Bosko|TheTalkInkKid}}, after Creator/HarmanAndIsing left the studio and took the character with them. Both the audiences ''and'' [[CreatorBacklash the creators]] absolutely hated Buddy: Creator/BobClampett described him in an interview as "Bosko in whiteface", and the character had no comedic potential whatsoever. The first short staring him, ''Buddy's Day Out'', was so painfully boring that it actually needed reshoots to add gags, something absolutely unheard of back in the day, and even then the completed product was ''a slog''. Needless to say, a replacement was necessary fast, and WesternAnimation/PorkyPig managed to save face for the struggling studio during the mid 1930s. |
| 258 | ** The late 1960s crop of characters, namely Cool Cat, Merlin the Magic Mouse, Bunny and Claude and others, while not as bad in terms of humor as Buddy was decades prior, still ended up being pretty lackluster thanks to a combination of issues: low budgets, a minimal team composed of just five animators, a few background and layout men and a single storyman - Cal Howard, whose last experience on writing Looney Tunes characters was in ''1938'' (1951 if you count the fact that he and Warren Foster co-wrote the short ''WesternAnimation/CannedFeud'', which is nevertheless one of the most polarizing shorts), but most notably thanks to the director Alex Lovy (who previously worked on WesternAnimation/WoodyWoodpecker and WesternAnimation/ChillyWilly shorts) being absolutely inexperienced with the rapid style of the usual Warner cartoon. The situation improved when Creator/RobertMcKimson took over the studio, creating some pretty decent shorts overall, but that wasn't enough to bring the theatergoers back, and the studio shuttered forever in 1969. |
| 259 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'': This tends to happen with the love interests, though they often become base-breaking characters instead of full-blown Scrappies: |
| 260 | ** In Seasons 2-3, Leni dated a boy named Chaz. By ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouseMovie'', she has broken up with him offscreen, and has had feelings for an unnamed boy with cowlicks in "Undercover Mom", and a boy named Scott in the movie, before starting to date a boy named Gavin in Season 7. The unnamed boy, Scott, ''and'' Gavin are all sometimes hated by fans who want Leni to stay with Chaz, and Gavin is sometimes hated by people who want her to be with Scott. |
| 261 | ** Ronnie Anne was {{Ship Tease}}d with Lincoln initially, but "L is for Love" showed him crushing on a girl named Paige, which sparked debate over whether Lincoln should be with Ronnie Anne or Paige (or neither). |
| 262 | ** Lucy had a crush on Rocky Spokes (the brother of Lincoln's friend Rusty) in "Back in Black", but started crushing on another boy, Silas, in "L is for Love". This caused debate, with people who preferred Rocky thinking Silas was too similar to Lucy, and people who preferred Silas thinking Rocky was "just a plot device". |
| 263 | * Many fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheMagicSchoolBus'' weren't happy when ''WesternAnimation/TheMagicSchoolBusRidesAgain'' replaced Valerie Frizzle and Phoebe with Fiona Frizzle and Jyoti, respectively. While the elder Ms. Frizzle at least still appears during the EveryEpisodeEnding (and the original series ended with her retirement anyway), Phoebe wasn't so lucky--she receives a throwaway line about "transferring back to her old school" and is then simply never mentioned again, with Jyoti taking her place in the class. |
| 264 | * ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' has Su-Han. While Master Fu was a BaseBreakingCharacter, Su-Han is a mediocre replacement at best due to his arguably even greater ineptitude regarding the Miracle Box as well as being absent when he is needed most. |
| 265 | * ''WesternAnimation/MyFriendsTiggerAndPooh'': |
| 266 | ** Darby basically takes over Christopher Robin's role as the TokenHuman, which led to her gaining a few detractors. Later episodes feature Christopher Robin as well, which warmed her up to some viewers, but others still think of her as his inferior replacement. |
| 267 | ** Beaver is often unfavourably compared to Gopher, who was AdaptedOut, due to both being small, industrious animals. |
| 268 | * Pick a generation of ''Franchise/MyLittlePony''. Expect the main protagonists of future generations to be this to that gen. Noticeable examples tend to be Firefly vs Rainbow Dash and Surprise vs Pinkie, since the latter ponies are [[{{Expy}} heavily based]] on those ponies. |
| 269 | * ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': |
| 270 | ** Despite [[CanonForeigner Sunset Shimmer]] hailing from a [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls separate series]], many criticized [[SixthRanger Starlight Glimmer]] for being an inferior replacement rather than having Sunset appear in the show. Besides Sunset's [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks redemption arc]] being a ToughActToFollow, Starlight was far more EasilyForgiven for far worse with [[CharacterShilling everyone praising her]] despite continued bad habits and her redeeming moments requiring everyone else look bad with her getting [[SpotlightStealingSquad far too much time in the spotlight]] (many fans even disparagingly refer to Season 6 as "The Starlight Glimmer show"). This died down during Season 7 which showed she got a different story direction, distinct personality, own characters dynamics, and ''far'' less time in the spotlight, but if it redeemed her [[BaseBreakingCharacter is contentious]]. |
| 271 | ** The Cutie Mark Crusaders' StoryArc had effectively concluded by Season 7, so in Season 8 they were DemotedToExtra in favor of [[PartyOfRepresentatives the Young Six]] Gallus, Silverstream, Smolder, Yona, Sandbar, and Ocellus. While they had fans and were liked for WorldBuilding their respective species cultures, many found them comparatively {{Flat Character}}s who never got the chance to endear themselves like the Crusaders did. |
| 272 | ** King Sombra pulled this on himself in Season 9, his return [[CanonDiscontinuity decanonizing]] their widely-praised TragicVillain portrayal from [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW the comics]] in lieu of generic villainy [[note]]Though some fans consider this also decanonizing the controversial follow-up where he was redeemed and turned into a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for the King Sombra from the also controversial ''Reflections'' arc to be WorthIt.[[/note]]. While a LoveToHate character by his own merits, this [[SmugSnake new take on Sombra]] also lacked the [[NoNonsenseNemesis ruthlessness]] or [[CrazyPrepared competency]] of his debut that made fans want him to return. |
| 273 | * An In-Universe example from ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'', with Darius seeing Hunter as one. When he was younger, Darius was mentored by the [[TheDragon Golden Guard]], a powerful witch with a massive rebellious streak who he clearly became very close to. The Golden Guard disappeared under mysterious circumstances one day, and while Darius was grieving that loss, the title of Golden Guard was given to Belos's nephew Hunter, a loud, moody teenager who would take orders from ''anyone'' if they offered him even the slightest scrap of approval. Darius spent years taking his grief out on Hunter, believing he didn't deserve to have the title that used to belong to his mentor, and wilfully blinding himself to the fact that [[AbusiveParents Hunter was being severely abused by Belos]]. Darius ends up warming up to Hunter after he disobeys a direct order to protect his new friends in "Any Sport in a Storm" -- but by this point the abuse had been going on for ''years''. |
| 274 | * ''WesternAnimation/PAWPatrol''[='s=] "Mighty Pups" saga brought along a new villain named Ladybird, whose shtick is that she steals whatever she can get her hands on. Ladybird was already a BaseBreakingCharacter for her annoying voice, but something else fans derided her for was being too similar to Sid Swashbuckle, the villain of the "Sea Patrol" saga and one of the series' [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favourites]], who had been missing from the series for quite some time when Ladybird made her debut. The producers seemed to have taken the hint, as Ladybird was later retired while Swashbuckle returned to the series. |
| 275 | * Fans of ''Planet Sketch'' consider Melville from season 2 a poor replacement for June Spume. |
| 276 | * ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'' |
| 277 | ** A case of this happening in-series is when Enzo has to replace Bob as guardian. Despite being just as competent at saving the day, the people think of the most inane reasons to dislike him. Like being green instead of blue. |
| 278 | ** Also, in a bizarre case of meta-trope, certain Bootniks hated Matrix for "replacing" Enzo, despite him ''being the [[TimeSkip older version]] of Enzo''. The [[PlotRelevantAgeUp abrupt transformation]] was just too much for some oldschoolers to parse. |
| 279 | ** Parodied in the second movie where Bob is believed to be a copy when another Bob, who looks and sounds more like the original shows up. This is particularly highlighted in the opening scene which takes place in front of a live audience. The audience cheers when any other character enters, but when Bob arrives, all we hear are the crickets chirping. |
| 280 | * While not a character example, try finding any fan of ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'' who ''didn't'' hate Myles Jeffrey's performance as T.J. in ''WesternAnimation/RecessTakingTheFifthGrade'' and ''Recess: All Growed Down'', the two DirectToVideo movies released in 2003 after the show ended. Due to T.J.'s previous voice actor, Creator/AndrewLawrence, going through puberty between the time the last episode was produced and the time the two DTV movies were produced, he was replaced with Myles Jeffrey. Jeffrey, unfortunately, gets tons of flack from almost the entirety of the fanbase due to his portrayal of T.J. having a much higher voice with less of the emotion Andrew Lawrence gave him. Some fans even find it frustrating as at the time (2002-2003), Disney did have some child voice actors who sounded enough like Andrew Lawrence's T.J. This trope was actually previously avoided when Andrew Lawrence replaced Ross Malinger as the voice of T.J. at the beginning of season two, due to Ross Malinger's voice breaking. Some fans even thought that Andrew Lawrence was an even better voice for T.J., which may contribute to the fact that the second season is widely considered to be the point where the show [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]]. |
| 281 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': |
| 282 | ** Parodied in the episode "Homer's Barbershop Quartet"; when Barney replaces Wiggum in the titular band, Wiggum spitefully organises a gang of fans to picket their next gig shouting "Wiggum forever! Barney never!" at the stage, while Wiggum watches with a smug smile on his face. Then Barney opens his mouth, reveals he can sing ten times better than Wiggum, and the chants immediately switch to "Barney forever! Wiggum never!" Wiggum ends up slinking out of the bar unnoticed. Like most of the episode, this parodies a similar situation Music/TheBeatles faced (specifically, when Music/RingoStarr replaced [[ThePeteBest Pete Best]]). |
| 283 | ** Also parodied in the infamous episode "The Principal and the Pauper", in which Principal Skinner is revealed to be an impostor named Armin Tamzarian who assumed Skinner's identity when the latter was assumed dead. The real Skinner (voiced by Creator/MartinSheen) takes Armin's place as principal while Armin leaves town. However, despite the real Skinner being a nice and reasonable fellow, the other Springfield citizens decide to kick him out of town (even his ''mother'', who preferred the doormat Armin to the independent Seymour) and get a judge to order everyone never speak of this again under penalty of torture because… they prefer the old Skinner. There's a reason most fans (and some writers) follow suit and pretend this episode never happened. |
| 284 | ** Parodied in the "Behind The Laughter" episode which explains that, while Bart was serving jail time for assaulting a flight attendant, his role was taken by ComicBook/RichieRich and said episodes proved highly unpopular. |
| 285 | ** Happened to Marge's current German voice actress Anke Engelke – she took over after Marge's original voice Elisabeth Volkmann passed away in 2006. This also happened to Christoph Jablonka, the new voice actor for Homer Simpson since Norbert Gastell, who was almost universally beloved by German Simpsons fans, died at the (admittedly quite proud) age of 86. |
| 286 | ** This also happens a lot in the Brazilian dub, as [[ExecutiveMeddling the studio constantly replaces the voice actors for any reason]]. The most emblematic case was in 2007, when Homer's voice actor Waldyr Sant'Anna was withdrawn from the series due to a lawsuit he had moved against Fox, due to the unauthorized use of his voice in ''The Simpsons'' DVD box sets. Shortly before [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsonsMovie the movie]], he was replaced by Carlos Alberto, who inevitably received heavy backlash from the Brazilian fans. |
| 287 | ** Gil Gunderson is often seen as one for Lionel Hutz, as he fills the same role of an incompetent authority figure who's usually on the side of the family. After the tragic death of Creator/PhilHartman, Gil tended to assume the role of the family's attorney in any court-related episodes, but with Hutz's [[CloudCuckoolander charming idiocy]] and [[AmoralAttorney slimeball panache]] replaced by a whiny StrawLoser. It doesn't help that Gil's [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS9E9RealtyBites debut episode]] also happened to be Hutz's final episode before becoming DemotedToExtra. |
| 288 | %%insufficient context* Dimmy from ''WesternAnimation/TheSnorks'' was written out of the scripts after season two, at the same time that Corky, Big Weed, and Lil Seaweed were introduced. |
| 289 | * ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'': |
| 290 | ** Parodied when Kenny died "permanently" (he came back after one season), the three remaining boys took a previously minor character, Butters, as his replacement. They then proceeded to [[ButtMonkey manipulate and torture him]], [[WoundedGazelleGambit constantly comparing him to their sadly missed Kenny to try to force him to do things their way]]. After a few episodes they "fired" him for not being good enough, and replaced him with ''another'' minor character, Tweek. Interestingly, the boys warm up to him a lot quicker (aside from [[JerkAss Cartman]]), even though he also vanished after a few episodes. Meanwhile Butters, despite being officially "demoted", actually wound up being a {{subver|tedTrope}}sion both in and out universe – even after Kenny's resurrection he continues to be a major character on par with the others, as well as quite the EnsembleDarkHorse, his relationship with the other boys is also developed somewhat (only a season later it is made clear the others at least like him a lot more than Cartman). |
| 291 | *** Also parodied much earlier in "Succubus" when Chef quits his job as [[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep the school chef]] and is replaced with a skinny white {{Cloudcuckoolander}} named Mr. Derp, who has NoFourthWall and believes that the viewers will love him as much as Chef. |
| 292 | *** Within the fanbase, both Butters and Tweek had actually received backlash from fans that missed Kenny. When Butters had been replaced with Tweek (although it too wouldn't last long), his fans also cried foul and directed their anger at the other character. In the end after all was said and done, Butters' role continued to grow in the series while Tweek's appearances decreased, culminating in him vanishing from the classroom scenes in season 15, though he did begin to regain a role as a supporting character outside the main boys after the show became serialised. |
| 293 | ** Detective Yates gets this treatment for replacing the much funnier Officer Barbrady. Being an unmitigated {{Jerkass}} IdiotHoudini who's a RabidCop at best and a KillerCop at worst doesn't help either. |
| 294 | * Many ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' fans greatly dislike Oogtar the caveboy from the ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' cartoon, who was essentially an obnoxious replacement for a major character from the games (Toad, though granted, he didn't appear in the original ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' game), despite the fact that no cavepeople, including Oogtar, ever appeared in the ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' video game. Didn't help that the cartoon already had [[EnsembleDarkhorse Yoshi]] for that kind of role, meaning Oogtar was completely pointless. |
| 295 | * During the ninth season of the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|1987}}'' cartoon, the Shredder and his crew were replaced by invading alien Lord Dregg, who took over as BigBad during the show's last two seasons. While capably voiced by Creator/TonyJay and arguably more menacing and effective than the Shredder, many fans found that he lacked the charm of his predecessors. |
| 296 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'': After threatening and iconic villain Slade was seemingly defeated for good at the end of season 2, hammy and incompetent Brother Blood took his place in season 3 as the ArcVillain. Thankfully, Slade was brought back in season 4. |
| 297 | * ''WesternAnimation/ThomasAndFriends'': |
| 298 | ** Emily was considered to be this by some fans for a while, as her role of the eighth Steam Team member left Duck DemotedToExtra. The "Emily replaced Duck!" issue was acknowledged in a rather cruel light in Season 18's "[[Recap/ThomasAndFriendsS18E8DuckAndTheSlipCoaches Duck and the Slip Coaches]]", where Emily comes to the sheds twice and finds them full due to Duck taking residence for those nights. |
| 299 | ** Nia and Rebecca get a lot of flak for replacing Edward and Henry as members of the Steam Team, and being underdeveloped. |
| 300 | ** Longtime fans of Jack and the Pack have not taken well to Brenda taking Byron's position as the Sodor Construction Company's bulldozer in the ''WesternAnimation/DigsAndDiscoveries'' special. |
| 301 | * Creator/{{Toonami}} gets hit hard with this: the first 3 [=TOMs=] have had changes, but still kept the basic structure (a somewhat humanoid robot with a cool motorcycle helmetish head). More importantly, the TOM models have increased in awesome over the years. [=TOM4=]'s head and torso looks like they were ripped off WesternAnimation/ThomasAndFriends, and his limbs looked like vacuum cleaner hoses. And they replaced SARA, his AI sidekick, with a couple of 'explorer robots'. Much earlier, TOM himself got hit with this when he introduced himself as "the new [[WesternAnimation/SpaceGhostCoastToCoast Moltar]]" though fans quickly warmed up to him. |
| 302 | * The ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' fandom went through this phase with the announcement of the fourth season and the fact that there would be a new cast replacing the old one, and needless to say, it did NOT going well for fans of the original cast. |
| 303 | ** When it was announced that Don would be the host for "The Ridonculous Race", many fans that liked Chris [=McLean=] did not take the news very well. |
| 304 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'': |
| 305 | ** Rodimus Prime, formerly Hot Rod, who took over as leader after Optimus died in TheMovie. Rodimus was not only not accepted because he wasn't Optimus, but he was partly responsible for the death of his predecessor (his attempt to help Optimus during his climactic battle with Megatron just gave Megatron a chance to fatally wound him). Worse, he was sometimes insecure over his leadership abilities, when he wasn't also being sharply sarcastic. However, Rodimus Prime also has a share of fans who like him ''better'' than Optimus, for the very same qualities he's hated for. To a lesser degree, the rest of the 1986 Transformers cast brought in after the movie suffered from this, as many of the beloved older characters had been killed off [[MerchandiseDriven to sell toys]] or [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome just weren't shown anymore]]. |
| 306 | ** Most of the Season 3 cast developed strong followings, mostly thanks to getting a lot more CharacterFocus compared to the CastHerd of earlier seasons. However, very few defenders exist for Daniel and Wheelie, who filled the "[[KidAppealCharacter younger robot]] and TagalongKid" slot previously filled by Spike and Bumblebee. Spike and Bumblebee are considered by a lot of fans to be how to do a KidAppealCharacter ''right'', with their understated roles, genuine competence, and charming eagerness. On the other hand, Daniel and Wheelie are considered to be how to do it ''wrong'' - Daniel, for being ''too'' young, [[ProneToTears constantly crying]], and acting like an idiot, Wheelie, for his dorky design, [[RhymesOnADime constantly rhyming,]] and having the [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter tracker/survivalist]] elements of his character constantly downplayed in favor of making him Robot ComicStrip/{{Dennis the Menace|US}}. |
| 307 | * ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' is seen as this for ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' by many. Even though ''Spectacular''[='s=] [[ScrewedByTheLawyers fate was sealed]], ''Ultimate'' gets a lot of flak for being DenserAndWackier, with the [[SlidingScaleOfSillinessVersusSeriousness drama and dark tone replaced with slapstick]] and [[BreakingTheFourthWall fourth wall jokes]], and not being faithful to any existing version of Franchise/SpiderMan. |
| 308 | * The ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTales'' spin-off ''WesternAnimation/VeggieTalesInTheHouse'' introduced Ichabeezer, while long-time cast member Mr. Nezzer disappeared. Many fans were disappointed. While Ichabeezer ''is'' voiced by Creator/RobPaulsen, that's really the only thing long-time Veggie fans tend to like about the character. |
| 309 | * ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'': |
| 310 | ** Roy's fate was sealed from the moment the fandom's infamous Nabu fangirls first discovered his existence, thinking it would ruin any chance of the latter [[HesJustHiding just hiding]]. It also didn't help that he was a ''massive'' FlatCharacter with no personality. |
| 311 | ** The selkies seem are this for the pixies, being essentially rehashes without anything that made the pixies likable. Thankfully they don't return after season 5. |
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