| 1 | [[quoteright:256:[[Series/BarneyAndFriends https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Jihad_against_Barney_9491.jpg]]]] |
| 2 | [[caption-width-right:256:I hate you, you hate me,\ |
| 3 | we're a screwed-up family!\ |
| 4 | With a great big punch and a kick from me to you,\ |
| 5 | all I'll say is "'''Fuck you, too!'''"]] |
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| 7 | ->''"It’s easy enough for us as discerning adults to pick the whole game apart piece by piece, but sometimes we can forget the intended audience and historical context in the process."'' |
| 8 | -->-- '''[[https://www.badgamehalloffame.com/blog/captain-novolin Cassidy]]''', on ''VideoGame/CaptainNovolin'' |
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| 10 | Periphery Hatedom is when a character or show receives scorn and hatred from groups to which it was never meant to appeal in the first place. It inspires an anti-PeripheryDemographic, who respond to them in such a way that [[FelonyMisdemeanor you'd think they had committed some unspeakable atrocity]]. This stems from some specific trait that draws ire in these groups: AcceptableBreaksFromReality they don't understand or appreciate, a {{trope}} that's designed exclusively for its TargetAudience (e.g. the KidAppealCharacter), or a notorious FanDumb that ruins the work's reputation. |
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| 12 | This is not to say that the dislike is always undeserved. We live in a mass-media world now, and any major pop-culture phenomenon is going to make at least some in-roads into the mainstream and show up on our radar whether it's aimed at us or not. When a work's popularity reaches far beyond its TargetAudience, it becomes susceptible to HypeBacklash as it draws in audiences it was never intended for. The hatedom is likely to be amplified if the work [[TaintedByThePreview leaves a bad first impression]] upon first being announced, as they wouldn't have been as forgiving as the TargetAudience in the first place. |
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| 14 | In the worst case scenario, it may become inescapable, or prove so popular in its demographic that those attempting to FollowTheLeader choke out any innovation in other programming for a period. Of course, a Periphery Hatedom [[ViciousCycle can help make things even more inescapable]], even well after the pop-culture phenomenon's popularity has died down. Given enough time, even an otherwise benign Periphery Hatedom can look fanatical to disinterested third parties, who are as likely to direct their pleas of "Will you just ''shut up'' about it already?!" to the haters as to the fans. |
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| 16 | Keep in mind that some of the stuff that was marketed towards you when ''you'' were a kid had a Periphery Hatedom at the time, and the kids who love a kid-oriented work with a Periphery Hatedom may grow up to become the adults who hate some new kid-oriented work, [[NostalgiaFilter while still viewing the stuff they themselves enjoyed as kids as pure quality]]. (Possibly after having briefly slipped into the Periphery Hatedom themselves as teenagers to prove that they weren't kids anymore.) |
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| 18 | Also, keep in mind that just because something is intended for a specific audience that won't recognize the flaws of the work, [[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars that doesn't mean the creators have an excuse to be lazy]]. If the Periphery Hatedom proves that the work relies too heavily on PublicMediumIgnorance and isn't good even for its intended audience, then they can have a point ("Just because something is made for kids, that doesn't mean they are free to treat them like idiots"). A work that isn't good enough to develop a NostalgiaFilter risks having its FleetingDemographic join the Periphery Hatedom once they become of age, if they didn't already hate the work by then. |
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| 20 | Compare BileFascination, a primary reason for people outside the target demographic to investigate. Contrast HypeBacklash, where a backlash occurs against something people have been told they'd like. |
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| 22 | Many music examples overlap with DeadHorseGenre. Can lead to CondemnedByHistory when a work's target demographic stops liking it and joins in on the bashing. See also AmericansHateTingle for regional examples. Can be caused by WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids MoralGuardians are a specific type of Periphery Hatedom, who sometimes subvert the trope by directing their complaints at how they think the work will affect its ''intended'' audience. However, they often play it straight by [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids getting the target audience wrong]], typically by assuming that everything of [[AnimationAgeGhetto a particular genre]] must be kid-appropriate. Tangentially related are StrawHypocrite (hating someone for not sincerely holding beliefs that the hater never admired in the first place) and StrawAffiliation (criticizing someone for not being a [[NoTrueScotsman "true"]] exemplar of a group to which the critic does not belong). There's also the targeted race in cases of AcceptableTargets and NationalStereotypes, who ''all'' hate said subject matter, which is always justifiable. |
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| 24 | Remember, this trope is specifically for examples where the hate comes from not pleasing a group that it never planned to reach in the first place. ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch when you're ''within'' its intended audience is not this trope. And cases of former fans rejecting newer versions of their preferred work/genre almost ''never'' fall here unless the work has a FleetingDemographic (such as a lot of kids' shows, teen pop music, etc.) and the fan has grown out of it. Otherwise, move it to TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Also, don't confuse this with the haters of a [[{{Music/Periphery}} certain progressive metal band.]] |
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| 26 | ''Please do not use this page as a place for Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike or ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow. You have to explain which demographic hates it and why.'' |
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| 29 | !!Examples: |
| 30 | [[index]] |
| 31 | * PeripheryHatedom/LiveActionTV |
| 32 | * PeripheryHatedom/VideoGames |
| 33 | * PeripheryHatedom/WesternAnimation |
| 34 | [[/index]] |
| 35 | |
| 36 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 37 | |
| 38 | [[folder:In-Universe Examples]] |
| 39 | * Much of the content of ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' harshly satirizes franchises, shows, and films that the target readership (mostly young teenage boys) could not be expected to have any real interest in, including soap operas, Hollywood dramas, and children's cartoons. The magazine's iconic comic strip parodies are always written with a tone of exasperated annoyance — even when mocking things that aren't really that omnipresent in the culture. |
| 40 | * The nerds that make up the main male cast of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' are sometimes looked down on by Penny the non-nerd in playing tabletop [=RPGs=], [=MMORPGs=], card games, video games, and liking comic books, ''Franchise/StarTrek,'' and ''Franchise/StarWars.'' As Penny gets to know them better, she develops more respect for their hobbies, even participating in some of them. |
| 41 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'': |
| 42 | ** ''Mary Moo Cow'', the Barney CaptainErsatz, is this to the titular character of the show -- the theme song itself (which is sung ToTheTuneOf "Frere Jacques", a common trait of shows with Periphery Hatedom) is known to aggravate Arthur. The ''Tina the Talking Tabby'' commercial in ''Arthur's Perfect Christmas'' and ''Vidiboobies'' (one of the many {{Captain Ersatz}}s of Teletubbies in the show's universe) has the same net effect on Arthur. As does Quacker's song. |
| 43 | ** In "Arthur Meets Mister Rogers", Arthur is afraid that he'll get this reaction if his friends find out that [[Series/MisterRogersNeighborhood Mister Rogers]] is staying at his house, since most of them think Mister Rogers' show is "for babies". However, after his plans ultimately fail, Mister Rogers talks some sense to him. Arthur's friends also treat Mister Rogers himself with a lot of respect when they finally meet him, even if they're older than his target audience. |
| 44 | ** Subverted with the "Love Ducks" (a ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'' parody). Arthur becomes a fan of the show despite his friends mocking him and saying that it's "a baby show". That is, until they start watching it as well and [[PeripheryDemographic begin enjoying it for its surreal content]]. |
| 45 | ** The ''WesternAnimation/{{Hopla}}''/''Series/BananasInPyjamas'' CaptainErsatz "Pumpkins In Pants" has this effect on the Tibble twins, who are avid fans of "Mary Moo Cow". |
| 46 | ** Arthur, in an attempt in find a positive role model to cosplay as after an advertisement involving [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Darkbunny]] upsets him, turns to an WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}} pastiche he watched as a toddler. Francine responds to this decision by bringing him over to a group of kindergartners and asking them what ''they'' think of the hero. [[ExaggeratedTrope Cue the kindergartners laughing at him and calling it a "baby show".]] |
| 47 | * Baloney from ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}},'' a parody of ''Series/BarneyAndFriends'' who is known for [[AndCallHimGeorge inadvertently terrorizing]] the Warners. |
| 48 | * ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' is this towards [[ExploitationFilm exploitation films]], [[ParallelPornTitles porn parodies]], and anything else that isn't TrueArt. The character was created specifically to mock film critics that bash low-brow exploitation cinema despite it clearly having never been intended for them, specifically admitting he based it on [[Series/SiskelAndEbert Siskel and Ebert's]] reviews of ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'', which included actually doxing the producers, director and some of the cast, one of the first examples of doxing done on television. Ironically, the character also is used by Brad Jones for his own Periphery Hatedom situation, modern day Christploitation films like Film/GodsNotDead and Film/WarRoom. Still, he's never doxed them. |
| 49 | * Bonky the Dragon from ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'' (though Mikey briefly went back into a Bonky phase when he was afraid of turning ten). |
| 50 | * An early ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'' story consists of Elly being disappointed with finding out Michael has been playing video games at the arcade, and forbids him from doing so at the end of it, tying into the real-life stigma video games faced. A person reading reruns of the story or reading it in a book collection might [[ValuesDissonance wonder what the fuss is about]] if they were born after the 1980s or early 1990s. |
| 51 | * One ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' mini-arc has Jason freaking out because his mom bought him a Barney lunchbox instead of the ''Franchise/JurassicPark'' one he wanted. Her logic: They're both dinosaurs. What's the difference? His response: Barney's not a dinosaur! He's a big sappy doofus who sings to little kids! |
| 52 | * Blarney and Georgie, two Barney parodies from ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'', have this effect on Earl, Fran, Robbie, and Charlene. Baby seems to be on the verge of having a love-hate relationship with these two shows. |
| 53 | * ''[[Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked]]'' had a scene where Theodore turns on the TV to a movie aimed at toddlers called "Hello Lolly". Alvin and Simon react in disgust and think Dave is treating them like babies. They then change it to a movie about a jungle monster. |
| 54 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'': The movie ''The Dummi Bears in the Land Without Smiles'' from the episode "At the Movies", as throughout the episode, Grandpa Lou spends all his time complaining about the movie's saccharine tone and how he'd rather go bowling. |
| 55 | -->'''Grandpa:''' "Land Without Brains" is more like it. |
| 56 | * The ShowWithinAShow ''Pootan'' to Yamaguchi from ''Anime/CromartieHighSchool''. He finds the show stupid and trash, but everyone else likes it. Yamaguchi even attempts to watch the show until he finds what makes it so popular. |
| 57 | * [[ShowWithinAShow "Asses of Fire"]] from ''WesternAnimation/SouthParkBiggerLongerAndUncut'' is hated by parents, causing them to murder Terrance and Phillip. The movie isn't even aimed for the main four's targeted audience, which is the main reason Shelia hates the movie. |
| 58 | * In the Josh Radnor movie ''Liberal Arts'', the 35-year-old protagonist, who has degree in literature, berates a 19-year-old college student for liking ''Literature/TheTwilightSaga''. He considers them to be one of the worst examples of English literature, despite not having actually read any of the books. This is subverted, though: he actually reads the first book, and even though he still hates it, by the end of the movie he ends up recommending it to another student, as he figures out not everything college kids read should be serious literature. |
| 59 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': |
| 60 | ** In the episode, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS1E13SomeEnchantedEvening Some Enchanted Evening]]" from the series' first season, while Lisa and Maggie are big fans of WesternAnimation/{{The Smurfs|1981}} parody "The Happy Little Elves", Bart cannot stand it and refers to it as "The Crappy Little Elves". Grampa Abe isn't a big fan of them either. In the ChristmasEpisode pilot, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS1E1SimpsonsRoastingOnAnOpenFire Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire]]," he refers to them as "[[SickeninglySweet unadulterated pap.]]" |
| 61 | ** At the beginning of the season 7 episode, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E5LisaTheVegetarian Lisa the Vegetarian]]", the Simpson family goes to Storytown Village, a nursery rhyme theme park intended specifically for one to seven-and-a-half-year-olds, to go somewhere that one-year-old Maggie would like. Bart and Lisa are just above the theme park's target demographic, and while Bart doesn't have a lot of fun at the park, Lisa befriends the cutest lamb at the petting zoo, who inspires her to become a vegetarian. |
| 62 | ** In the season 15 episode, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS15E8MargeVsSSCCATAG Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples, Teens, and Gays]]", Bart and Lisa fight over what show they want to watch on TV and accidentally change it to a children's show hosted by the Raffi {{Expy}}, Roofi. This starts Maggie's Roofi addiction. Things go FromBadToWorse for Bart, Lisa, and Homer when Marge buys Maggie a Roofi CD and plays it non-stop for her. It gets to the point where Bart actually begs for Mrs. Krabappel to make him stay after school and [[WritingLines write something on the chalkboard a thousand times]]. Meanwhile, Lisa tries to turn off the CD player by unplugging it (only to find out it's backed up by batteries and a solar panel), and Homer tries to smash the CD player in the middle of the night with a hammer. Lisa's dislike of Roofi resurfaces in the season 22 episode, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS22E1ElementarySchoolMusical Elementary School Musical]]", wherein Marge makes her listen to a Roofi Song on their way back from Arts Camp. |
| 63 | ** Subverted by Sideshow Bob, who really hates the TV show ''Series/{{MacGyver|1985}}'' -- but this was while he was briefly married to Selma Bouvier, who is a big fan of the show, so he was semi-obligated to watch it. |
| 64 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' episode "Get Your Freak Off", Hank highly disapproves the contents in the musics Bobby listens to. (Let alone many other things he dislikes what Bobby likes.) He took Bobby to a boy band concert when he assumed the band was acceptable due to the subtle lyrics and conservative outfits...until he's disgusted when the band strips out of their suits and grab their crotches in front of the preteen crowd. He drags Bobby out of the concert when he is freak dancing with his friends. |
| 65 | * In the short, "Ruffled Ruffee" from the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' episode, "Music Day", the Raffi {{Expy}} Ruffee fits this trope to a T, particularly towards Buster Bunny, who is part of the teenage rock n' roll crowd. Ruffee refuses to let Buster play his electric guitar, [[IncessantMusicMadness which inadvertently interrupts his concert for impressionable children]]. As a result, Buster gets back at him by attending the concert, dressed in a diaper and a green bonnet, and having to listen to his overly sappy songs simply for the purpose of sabotaging said songs, and the concert as a whole.[[note]]The episode was written to satirize Raffi's earliest performances, when he found it difficult to perform for his target audience (children under the age of 3) because their tiny attention spans were distracting to him and the rest of the audience.[[/note]] |
| 66 | * In ''Film/NineMonths'', there is a Barney clone named Arnie that a mom attacks. The weirdest part? Her children, whom are fans of the show, appear to be in early elementary school, which is the age most people learn to hate the show. |
| 67 | * ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'' has their version of Barney, Bo-Bo the Friendly Bison. [[http://49.media.tumblr.com/3b0040dbbaa7efd14cc679f017ee619b/tumblr_n8sdflHMjj1tglg2co3_400.gif Bo-Bo is shown as a criminal by stealing Rocko's wallet.]] But despite that, Rocko stated everyone loves Bo-Bo. |
| 68 | * In the ''[[WebVideo/SuperMarioLogan SML Movie]]'' "Christmas Special!", Bowser Junior gives Chef Pee-Pee a ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' toy oven as a present, but he rejects it, claiming that the show the toy is based on teaches kids to be bums. |
| 69 | * This is discussed in ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' review of ''Film/MyPetMonster'', which ends with the critic actually calling the director to complain about the video and tell him how much he hated it. We only hear the Critic's side of the conversation, but the director essentially asks him why he was watching a movie geared for young kids and, upon hearing that the Critic does this for a living, ''takes pity on him''. The Critic [[HeroicBSOD does not take it well]], spirals into a depression where he only wants to watch commercials, and finally has a [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas Nightmare Before Christmas-style]] epiphany where he goes back to reviewing. |
| 70 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}''[='=]s "Saturday Morning Fun Pit": "Mr. President. Our children are fat and dumb and WE BLAME CARTOONS!" |
| 71 | * ''Elf Gonna Make You Smile'' a ShallowParody of ''WesternAnimation/{{The Smurfs|1981}}'' from ''WesternAnimation/SabrinaTheAnimatedSeries''. When going to a ride based on this program, Sabrina herself is disturbed by these little critters while [[AlphaBitch Gem]], on the other hand, actually likes them. |
| 72 | * In ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'' Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way hates every musician she doesn't deem "goffic", dismissing them as "preppy" or "posers". Cited examples are as disparate as Music/AvrilLavigne and Music/{{NSYNC}}. |
| 73 | * ''VideoGame/GenericMan'' [[spoiler:has Barney as the BigBad The Master of Evil]]. |
| 74 | * ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' has the [[ShowWithinAShow book]] ''Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooey'', Calvin's favorite bedtime story, which he insists his dad read to him every night. It's implied to be poorly written, repetitive, [[SickeninglySweet unbearably cutesy]], and generally unappealing to anyone older than six. Calvin's dad hates it and is desperate to read him ''anything'' else. |
| 75 | -->'''Dad:''' Architects should be forced to live in the buildings they design, and children's book authors should be forced to read their stories aloud every single night of their rotten lives. |
| 76 | [[/folder]] |
| 77 | |
| 78 | [[folder:Anime and Manga]] |
| 79 | * ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' and ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' qualify, as a truly amazing number of hate-sites appeared in the early days of the Internet, most of which were run by the demographic that the other appealed to. |
| 80 | * ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'' infamously suffers from this trope: |
| 81 | ** The anime in general has gotten a lot of flak today, mostly because [[LongRunners it's been going on for years and years]] [[StrictlyFormula without being very imaginative]], including [[FleetingDemographicRule recycled plots]], while [[AnimationAgeGhetto catering almost exclusively to young children]], after Takeshi Shudo left the show. Even fans of [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} the games and other aspects of the franchise]] also aren't too happy that Ash and Pikachu's repetitive adventures[[note]]especially the first season[[/note]] [[AdaptationDisplacement define "Pokémon" in the public consciousness more than the games themselves]], ''the very reason why the franchise was created''. It was particularly popular to mock ''Pokémon'' in the West during Generation III, which is widely considered even by fans to have been something of an AudienceAlienatingEra for the franchise. |
| 82 | ** Despite this, while the anime's reputation has zig-zagged over the years, it has at least somewhat improved since the first couple of generations. The first few seasons are well loved in Japan for Takeshi Shudo's trying to make the show for kids and their parents alike, and have a very active nostalgia-driven fanbase in the West. Additionally, a greater respect has developed for the tangible improvements made to the show's writing. The Battle Frontier and Sinnoh sagas are often seen nowadays as a [[GrowingTheBeard vast improvement]] over Johto and Hoenn, particularly the latter for its high emphasis on story and drama. The Kalos saga is similarly well-loved by older fans (apart from its [[StatusQuoIsGod cop-out ending]]) for its superior plot and character development and Mega Evolution side stories. |
| 83 | ** That being said, the anime's general reception is constantly shifting because of its own wildly changing writing style, with the fifth generation serving as an especially low point for its reputation due to its infamous [[TookALevelInDumbass reset of Ash]] and return to a more kid-oriented formula. This perceived AudienceAlienatingEra extended to the movies as well, with ''Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened'' heavily panned for retconning out a fan-favorite character with a ReplacementScrappy. The ''Sun & Moon'' series also initially alienated fans by appearing to switch to a DenserAndWackier tone and aesthetic reminiscent of ''VideoGame/YokaiWatch'', but did progressively grow its own dedicated fanbase for highlights such as returning Misty and Brock, dipping into some darker elements such as death (shown with Stoutland and [[spoiler:Mallow's mother]]) or Lusamine being kidnapped by an Ultra Beast, and [[spoiler:Ash ''finally'' winning the Pokémon League]]. ''Anime/PokemonJourneysTheSeries'', despite being divisive in its own right, quieted down the the "I hate the [[FanNickname ashnime]] because it's kiddy and formulatic" crowd for its willingness to [[BreakingOldTrends break old trends]], depict Ash as more consistently competent than even ''XY'', and explore the Pokémon world beyond the newest region (Galar). |
| 84 | ** During the fad days, people over the demographic age often disliked the show. For instance, [[https://madtrash.com/mdb_images/items/012510386.jpg the cover]] of ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' #386 asked readers to vote on ways of killing Pikachu. It was sensational amongst kids, but teens and adults would often mock it as a MerchandiseDriven fad, and nearly every American movie critic panned the [[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie first movie]] because they didn't understand it. While many of those kids have grown into adults and still love the show and/or franchise, the older adults of that era continued to hate it and be puzzled by its success as they aged further, often mocking said young adults for liking ''Pokémon''. |
| 85 | * ''Anime/YuGiOh'' has a Periphery Hatedom for the {{Bowdleri|se}}zed [[{{Macekre}} English dub]], mostly due to the dub turning the show into a simplistic MerchandiseDriven kids' cartoon. This caused it to become a target of mockery, allowing for the creation of the popular ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', which plays all of the show's and dub's bizarre tropes for laughs. |
| 86 | * ''Anime/{{Hamtaro}}'': |
| 87 | ** The most vocal haters of it were people who apparently could never tell that it was a kid's show and carries all the characteristics of kids' shows that adults absolutely hate. ''Hamtaro'' was a popular target for the PeripheryDemographic of a lot of [[ShonenDemographic Shōnen]] anime, and fans of more "sophisticated" anime (Such as {{Seinen}} and {{Josei}}) love to hate ''Hamtaro''. One bit of irony is when people hated it for catering to the AnimationAgeGhetto and being made for younger kids, even though it was intended for the little kid demographic in Japan. In the United States, ''Hamtaro'' aired on Creator/{{Toonami}}. In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMJuFsGiAdY the commercials]], not even Tom could tell why he was watching it. His exact words were "... Well, they are kind of cute." |
| 88 | ** An interview with [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2015-02-27/.85411 Jason DeMarco]], one of Toonami's original founders and in charge of the revival, showed that [=DeMarco=] knew the show didn't fit on Toonami. He said that the Cartoon Network executives forced ''Hamtaro'' onto the block, and he had no say in it. |
| 89 | * ''Literature/{{Anpanman}}'' has this in Japan, due to HypeBacklash, to the point where the videos on Platform/YouTube for the show have ''more dislikes'' than likes. |
| 90 | * ''Anime/{{Free}}'' gets flak from straight male anime fans who don't like the series' beefcake {{Fanservice}} and focus on cute boys bonding. Part of the backlash comes from Creator/KyotoAnimation's reputation for (supposedly) being a reliable source of anime about CuteGirlsDoingCuteThings, so ''Free!'' was seen as a betrayal of some sort by that particular crowd when the series was first announced. |
| 91 | * ''Anime/PrettyCure'' gets this for [[SweetnessAversion how sweet and innocent it is]], never mind how it's definitely one of the most action-packed MagicalGirl franchises out there. It even got to the point where [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-05/man-arrested-for-bomb-threat-to-precure-film-screening-on-twitter/.91307 somebody threatened to bomb a theater showing one of the franchise's films.]] |
| 92 | * The ''Manga/ShizukuChan'' manga and anime gets this for being a show for kids and too cutesy. |
| 93 | * ''Anime/YokaiWatch'' got this from multiple camps: those who are dismayed with its [[CashCowFranchise massive popularity in Japan]], those put off by the humorous tone as opposed to DarkerAndEdgier anime with similar subject matter; and fans of the ''[[Anime/PokemonTheSeries Pokémon]]'' anime who don't take kindly to it being hailed as a "Pokémon killer". As a result, a rather nasty FandomRivalry has formed because of the series' debut in the US. Hatred from the ''Pokémon'' side has further intensified due to changes to the ''Sun & Moon'' anime (and games, to a lesser extent) that seem designed to [[FollowTheLeader make the franchise more similar to]] ''Yo-Kai Watch'' in order to compete with it. |
| 94 | * Creator/FourKidsEntertainment get this treatment a lot. Mostly due to the frequent {{Bowdleri|se}}zation that often delves into TheyChangedItNowItSucks territory (though, in reality, these changes were few and in-between, plus they mostly stem from ValuesDissonance between Japan and the rest of the world). There's people who've admitted to having a soft spot for the dubs, however. |
| 95 | * ''Franchise/{{Beyblade}}'' gets a lot of mockery from people outside the target demographic. It's popular with kids, but a lot of adults are surprised that it's still on-going past [[Anime/BakutenShootBeyblade the first anime]]. This is in part due to a FandomRivalry with ''Pokémon'' and ''Yu-Gi-Oh!''. |
| 96 | * Anything related to {{UsefulNotes/Kawaisa}} and most of its subtropes (mainly {{Bishoujo}} and {{Moe}}). Mainly because of the [[SweetnessAversion cute artstyles]], the fact that most of the characters are children or teenagers ([[OlderThanTheyLook or look like them]]), the belief that the characters are [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles always sexualized]], the idealization of femininity including in [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak tomboys]], and the belief that the creators and fans are always straight perverted males, (which perception went from laughable losers into potential [[AbominationAccusationAttack child groomers, rapists, and pedophiles]]) made them target of hatred from MoralGuardians, [[SourPrudes sex-negative]] and RealWomenDontWearDresses communities, who accuse them of [[EverythingIsRacist promoting misogyny and objectification of young girls]]. |
| 97 | * The [[TrappedInAnotherWorld Isekai]] genre of light novels and anime, where [[AudienceSurrogate a human protagonist from our world]] is taken into an alternate universe [[RPGMechanicsVerse modeled after fantasy RPGs]] (if [[TrappedInTVLand it's not the actual world of an in-universe RPG or other work of fiction]]), usually gaining [[NewLifeInAnotherWorldBonus an overpowered special ability]] and some attractive female companions in the process, tends to be popular among their intended demographic (usually teenage boys or young men), but have a vocal hatedom from people who have outgrown the power fantasy aspect of such works, [[ClicheStorm find the stories too formulaic]], or object to the excessive use of {{fanservice}} and frequent [[HerosSlaveHarem glorification of slavery]]. |
| 98 | [[/folder]] |
| 99 | |
| 100 | [[folder:Asian Animation]] |
| 101 | * ''Animation/CatchTeenieping'' gets this reaction from people outside of the target demographic who find the series annoying and cliche, think it is too adorable to watch sanely, or they simply hate it because of [[HongKongDub the bad dubbing in the English version]]. |
| 102 | [[/folder]] |
| 103 | |
| 104 | [[folder:Automotive]] |
| 105 | * Motorcycle manufacturer Harley-Davidson is known for its huge fanbase and has spawned [[AllBikersAreHellsAngels a subculture of bikers]] cruising thousands of miles to Sturgis or some other venue, but owners of metric (read: non-American or non-Harley) motorcycles frequently mock or criticise Harley for either being "behind the times", [[AwesomeButImpractical unreliable or too underpowered]] for the price, [[NostalgiaFilter relying more on brand image]] than on actual performance. The fact that H-D (or really the biker culture as a whole) has become associated with the alt-right movement isn't helping, especially with the younger demographic. |
| 106 | [[/folder]] |
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| 108 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 109 | * For several decades ''ComicBook/ArchieComics'' has had an unsightly amount of hate amongst the comic book community. It's been mocked for being seen as too tame, too formulaic, and too "casual" compared to superhero comics. Archie as a protagonist gets a lot of hate personally, due to his [[DependingOnTheWriter fluctuating personality]] and people's inability to understand why such an average boy is a ChickMagnet, which never helped. In the 2010s much of the periphery hatedom is dying out thanks to various successful spinoffs and a more "modern" reboot that resonates well with comic readers. |
| 110 | * Jack Chick's ''ComicBook/ChickTracts'' do a zig-zagging of this trope. The tracts are supposed to be aimed at non-Evangelicals, to bring them into the fold, but only an Evangelical could possibly take them seriously (and even most of them think they're absurd), while his target audience despises the contents. It is for this reason that his fanbase consists primarily of people who [[SoBadItsGood read his comics to make fun of them]]. It is also considered hate literature by American civil rights organization Southern Poverty Law Center. |
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| 113 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 114 | * ''ComicStrip/TheFamilyCircus'' has received a disproportionate amount of mockery over the years from people not in its kids-say-the-darndest-things-isn't-it-cute? demographic (though of course this could be more an expression of just wanting to poke fun at things than obsessive hatred). |
| 115 | * ''ComicStrip/{{Marvin}}'' is written exclusively for [[FleetingDemographic new mothers.]] Everybody else seems to hate it, largely due to its reliance on ToiletHumour and attempts to emulate other comic strips, most notably ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}''. |
| 116 | * ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' suffers from heavy NostalgiaFilter syndrome, and is often hated by people who believe it's "gotten worse" when in reality it's a strip best enjoyed by kids. It's also something of an [[TheArtifact Artifact]] of the late 1970s, so most of the complaints seem to come from Generation X'ers who enjoyed it as kids and have become too "sophisticated" for it, while many Baby Boomers (now in their fifties or older) don't read the comics much anymore and are too busy complaining about other things. |
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| 119 | [[folder:Disney]] |
| 120 | * ''Franchise/{{Cars}}''. Kids ''love'' ''Cars''... but it's one of the few Creator/{{Pixar}} movies that doesn't have a lot of adult appeal. Some people hate ''Cars'' because Disney absolutely adores it, despite that it was received among the ''worst'' by critics and Pixar's usual adult fanbase. This is mostly because it's widely believed the only reason they made [[WesternAnimation/Cars2 a sequel]] was for TheMerch. It's because of this that despite ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' being one of Pixar's highest rated movies, their stock actually ''dropped''. Why? Because stockholders knew it wasn't made for merchandising. |
| 121 | * Franchise/DisneyPrincess movies, especially Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon ones, tend to attract a male Periphery Hatedom despite being well-regarded by critics of both genders in most cases. Many of these haters are very young boys who simply hate the movies for being "[[GirlShowGhetto stupid and girly]]", but older males can also develop some spite towards them for various reasons, mostly related to ItsPopularNowItSucks. Many tomboyish girls also hate the Disney Princess franchise for the same reasons that boys hate them. Feminists also make up a sizable percentage of the hatedom due to many of them finding the princesses to be [[RealWomenDontWearDresses bad role models for little girls]]. There are also those who dislike them because [[SpotlightStealingSquad Disney is often synonymous with "Princess films"]] and they think they promote them at the expense of their other movies. |
| 122 | * ''WesternAnimation/BillyDilleysSuperDuperSubterraneanSummer'' got this, with several adult viewers complaining that it feels like a "bad modern Nickelodeon cartoon". Some people have also accused the title character of being a selfish whiny moron with an ugly design. Because of the backlash, the show would only last 13 episodes, making it the shortest-lived series from Disney's television animation division. |
| 123 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'' suffers from ItsPopularNowItSucks and HypeBacklash from males and tomboys who found the movie to be [[GirlShowGhetto too "girly"]] (even for a female-led film) and [[CashCowFranchise overmarketed to little girls]], especially since it outgrossed many other movies more suited to masculine tastes -- including its male-oriented predecessor ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'' and successor ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6'', as well as every single superhero movie ever except the [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse Avengers films]], and isn't considered prestigious or groundbreaking enough compared to previous Disney films to justify it. Not helping matters is the movie's male characters and villains failing to draw a significant fanbase, with many thinking of Kristoff as insignificant and clueless compared to Anna or Elsa, Hans lacking [[spoiler:the EvilIsCool factor of many past Disney villains]], and [[PluckyComicRelief Olaf]] being very entertaining but still being a Disney sidekick (not the type of character to attract fanboys). It also didn't help that the detractors were just absolutly sick of hearing "Let It Go" all the time. ''Film/BeautyAndTheBeast2017'' went through a near-identical reaction, but slightly less pronounced -- with the added stigma of being seen as an unoriginal remake of [[WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast a movie that didn't need to be tampered with]]. Several years after both films, a similar reaction occurred when ''WesternAnimation/{{Encanto}}'' suddenly became a gigantic hit on par with ''Frozen'''s initial popularity. |
| 124 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' (Creator/{{Pixar}}'s own Franchise/DisneyPrincess film) got this reaction for AwardSnub reasons. It got positive reviews that were nonetheless very mixed by Pixar standards and is widely considered one of Pixar's weaker original films, which caused it to attract a lot of bile from males when it won the Oscar for Best Animated Picture over better-reviewed (and coincidentally male-oriented) competition (''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'', ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesInAnAdventureWithScientists'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Frankenweenie}}'', and ''WesternAnimation/ParaNorman''). Because the common consensus was that ''Ralph'' would win the Oscar, some believed that ''Brave''[='=]s win was simply a politically-motivated move to promote feminism rather than an actual measure of the movie's quality, with it being the first Pixar movie directed by a woman and starring a female protagonist. While this definitely upset those on the opposite side of the political spectrum, many other viewers (including some feminists and supporters thereof) noted the absurdity of the move. The same thing happened three years later with ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'''s wins at the Oscars and Annies, when some animation fans (most of them being fans of Studio Ghibli's ''Anime/WhenMarnieWasThere'') were angry that it took away awards from movies they preferred, and the fact that it won Annies in almost every category it was nominated in -- although its case was ''much'' less prominent because it got excellent reviews and was considered a return to form for Pixar. |
| 125 | * ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'' has gotten this from viewers who see it as the catalyst for Disney backing out of traditionally-animated films, if not killing off the commercial appeal of them altogether. |
| 126 | * Despite being regarded as one of the best Disney movies of the past few years, ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'' has received a lot of hate... Because, due to its characters being {{Funny Animal}}s in a tale of FantasticRacism, it has a ''[[PopularWithFurries huge]]'' popularity among the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom. Some leftists also criticize the film for [[https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/03/14/469914141/in-tackling-bias-in-policing-zootopia-veers-into-the-uncanny-valley glorifying the police]] and for its [[https://consequence.net/2016/03/how-disneys-zootopia-gets-racism-wrong/ sloppy racial metaphors]]. |
| 127 | * ''Film/{{Descendants}}'' was a hit with its target demographic of preteens and younger teenagers. A lot of the older Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon fans absolutely hate it. The premise isn't disliked nearly as much as how the characters are written, the designs themselves, the music, and how the series presents itself is. It just irks many adults who enjoy Disney. There is also a sizable hatedom from fans of ''Toys/EverAfterHigh'' due to ''Descendants''[='=] premise and characters being similar to those of ''Ever After High''. It's gotten to the point where those fans assume that the former's popularity is what caused Creator/{{Mattel}} to [[ScrewedByTheNetwork axe the franchise]] in 2018. |
| 128 | * It appears that ''WesternAnimation/DocMcStuffins'', despite its large PeripheryDemographic, has somehow gathered a small number of haters as well. Most of them appear to be bored teens who harbor a dislike for the show's [[SweetnessAversion cuteness]]. |
| 129 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' has quite a few haters who believe that [[TheScrappy Bunga is annoying]], it has poor animation compared to the [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994 films]] upon which [[WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride it was based]], it was only made to [[FollowTheLeader cash in on the success of]] ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', it overuses [[ToiletHumour fart jokes]], and that its nature as a simplistic preschool series is a disgrace to the emotionally deep and [[MultipleDemographicAppeal more demographically inclusive]] classic Disney movie that it's based on. |
| 130 | * ''WesternAnimation/LittleEinsteins'' has very strong hatedom by exactly five schools of people: those who can't stand the inanity or shallowness of the story, those who don't like being treated like [[ViewersAreGoldfish they have the memory of a goldfish]], those who can't stand them shoehorning silly lyrics onto classical melodies, those who don't believe the claims made by the producers of the series that your child will end up smarter than Stephen Hawking just for watching the series, and longtime Disney Junior fans who miss the shows of the block's early days as Playhouse Disney. There are also people who hate it due to it bouncing back and forth between treating its target audience (children) like they [[ViewersAreGeniuses are smarter than they look]] and treating them like they [[ViewersAreMorons have the IQ of a rotten potato]]. One moment the characters could give an (albeit ''extremely'' simplified) explanation of escape velocity, and the next they could ask the kids at home if they can count to three. |
| 131 | * ''WesternAnimation/SpecialAgentOso'', like a lot of {{Preschool Show}}s featuring a great deal of repetition, has one with the usual Periphery Hatedom for those kinds of shows, who enjoy bashing the series for having the same thing happen every episode, its extremely bright (and somewhat dated) CGI animation, and for the main character being an idiot (never mind that ''many'' animated series with significant {{Periphery Demographic}}s or aimed at older audiences also have idiot protagonists). |
| 132 | * Works involving the WesternAnimation/ClassicDisneyShorts characters: |
| 133 | ** ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouseClubhouse'', popular among the toddler set it's aimed at, has earned mixed reviews from critics and Disney fans alike for putting their mascot and company into a toddler show, but it's the several people on social networks who have a deep hate for it that tend to be most vocal about it. The fact that Disney kept this show running for 10 years straight doesn't help matters, nor does the fact that they market Mickey's ''Clubhouse'' incarnation more aggressively childish than his earlier (and later), more PeripheryDemographic-friendly appearances. Some of this may be CondescendingCompassion on the part of parents. |
| 134 | ** Half of all modern works involving the cast, especially WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse himself, are directly targeted towards children, tend to be [[SweetnessAversion cloyingly cute]], and are mocked and hated by older audiences; in parodies, Mickey is frequently used as a simultaneous icon of saccharine family-friendliness ''and'' corporate greed (being Disney's company mascot). The other half generally averts this trope, with works like ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse2013'', ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'', both the [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales1987 1987]] and [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017 2017]] versions of ''[=DuckTales=]'', and the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' and ''VideoGame/EpicMickey'' video games, but still suffer from this trope to a small extent by association. |
| 135 | * ''WesternAnimation/MyFriendsTiggerAndPooh'', in addition to dropping Owl entirely, replacing Christopher Robin with a new girl named Darby, which leads to understandable flak by fans of the movie and books. Which actually led to Disney restoring Christopher Robin back into the show in later seasons, although it still wasn't enough (Christopher Robin was still demoted to a minor character and only appeared in two episodes, which failed to impress some fans). |
| 136 | * [[http://www.frommeredithtomommy.com/2014/01/nina-needs-to-go-away.html A lot of parents]] hate the earlier episodes of the [[Creator/DisneyChannel Disney Junior]] short series ''WesternAnimation/NinaNeedsToGo'' due to its AesopAmnesia, how unrealistic the show is,[[note]] In each episode, Nina's secret agent-esque Nana takes Nina to the bathroom in the most exciting way possible, and in the CampingEpisode, the animals build Nina a bathroom because [[ShyBladder she doesn't want anyone to see her while she goes]]. [[/note]] because their kids [[BrokenAesop misunderstood the show's message as a result]], and the fact that [[PottyEmergency the main character always has to use the bathroom no matter where she is]]. The fact that Pull-Ups Training Pants (or Pampers, depending on your region) is the show's primary sponsor only adds to the irk (Disney Junior is a premium network which costs extra on top of the basic kids package on some Pay TV providers. Understandably, parents were irked when they have to put up with advertising on a channel that they're already paying extra for). Some people believe that the show is worse than the TropeCodifier Barney. |
| 137 | * ''WesternAnimation/PBAndJOtter'', to those who don't [[NostalgiaFilter have fond memories of watching the show]]. Its overall brightness and cheeriness, combined with the overload of songs, induce SweetnessAversion. |
| 138 | * Whilst a majority of people (especially [[PeripheryDemographic adults and teenagers, alongside its target audience]]) like ''WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst'', there are quite a few people who judge it without even watching a single episode just because it airs on the preschool-oriented Creator/DisneyJunior. [[note]]The show was initially pitched to Disney Channel itself, but due to the network preferring [[KidCom tween dramas]] to animation at the time, it was moved to Disney Junior.[[/note]] It also has a considerable amount of hate from Franchise/DisneyPrincess fans who either dislike Sofia, dislike how the series portrays the princesses, or hates how they're drawn/[[TheOtherDarrin voiced]]. Prior to release it got hate for "[[LatinoIsBrown Sofia being too pale to be Latina]]" but that view has since died down. The spin-off ''WesternAnimation/ElenaOfAvalor'' also gets this reaction occasionally. |
| 139 | * ''WesternAnimation/ChickenLittle'' gets this for being a [[FollowTheLeader second-rate]] ''Franchise/{{Shrek}}'' ripoff with unlikable characters and very little adult appeal. Many adults consider it the worst entry in the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon. Kids at the time, of course, liked it just fine. |
| 140 | * Before ''Nina Needs To Go!'', Disney Junior had ''This is Daniel Cook''. People hated it because the titular character always acted excited no matter what the situation was. The hate has died down, however, now that the show hasn't been seen for plenty of years. |
| 141 | * Both Disney series created by Noah Z. Jones fall into this. ''WesternAnimation/FishHooks'' got a lot of flak for having [[ClicheStorm every high school cliche in the book]] [[RecycledInSpace put underwater]], but was ultimately deemed SoOkayItsAverage by most older viewers of Disney. The same can't be said for his next Disney creation, ''WesternAnimation/PickleAndPeanut'', which is even more despised, being considered as Disney's answer to ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}'' thanks to its overusage of stock photos (the title characters themselves are stock photos!), grossout humour, and [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks similarities to]] the aforementioned ''Breadwinners'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow''. It's generally considered by Disney's PeripheryDemographic to be one of Creator/DisneyTelevisionAnimation's worst original animated series besides possibly ''WesternAnimation/BillyDilleysSuperDuperSubterraneanSummer''. |
| 142 | * ''WesternAnimation/The7D'' got a lot of backlash from fans of the 1937 Disney animated film ''WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs'' for not only radically changing the character designs of the dwarfs themselves, but for also [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks not even mentioning Snow White's existence, adding new characters called the Glooms, and going for a more childish tone]] (it ''was'' originally planned for Creator/DisneyJunior). The fact that Creator/WhoopiGoldberg voices the Magic Mirror doesn't help matters. Nonetheless, ''The 7D'' still developed its own PeripheryDemographic, including people from the ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' fandom since both shows have the same staff. |
| 143 | * ''WesternAnimation/RandyCunninghamNinthGradeNinja'' has been hit by this; largely from fans of ''WesternAnimation/TronUprising'' blaming the former for getting the latter ScrewedByTheNetwork. |
| 144 | * ''Series/HannahMontana'' and ''Film/HighSchoolMusical'' are often blamed for Creator/DisneyChannel's NetworkDecay (possibly sans their animated series) for the non-teenage audience.[[note]]While ''Series/LizzieMcGuire'' [[FranchiseOriginalSin saw Disney find success with later series starring teen popstars as the lead characters]], said series were generally SliceOfLife series/sitcoms that fit well into the channel's programming. It wasn't until ''Hannah Montana'' and ''High School Musical'' were made that said types of series, and eventually all of Disney Channel's live-action programming altogether, began shifting their focus from everyday situations to becoming famous in some way. While there are some exceptions to this, the increasingly teen-oriented and fame-centered live-action series that were made caused a massive change in the network's programming, which alienated many.[[/note]] Straight males, females born before 1989, {{tomboy}}s, feminists, and MoralGuardians make up a sizable hatedom to both franchises. That being said, this behavior died down tremendously as the target demographic grew up and became nostalgic for them. It also helps that many of the channel's biggest stars have grown up so fast that the guardians don't really bother with criticizing them anymore. |
| 145 | * ''Franchise/StarWars'': The series is infamous for introducing characters such as [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi the Ewoks]] and [[Film/ThePhantomMenace Jar Jar Binks]] that serve as [[KidAppealCharacter cutesy comic relief for the kids in the audience]], but are [[TheScrappy near-universally hated with adult viewers]]. |
| 146 | * The [[Film/DisneyLiveActionRemakes live-action adaptations]] of ''Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon'' leave a bitter taste in the mouths of quite a few animation fans, feeling the movies are not only unnecessary rehashes of past movies but also fear they are reinforcing the AnimationAgeGhetto. Others, especially fans of ''Film/{{Tron}}'' and ''Franchise/StarWars'', resent these remakes because Disney has a habit of approving more whenever an unrelated Disney film becomes a BoxOfficeBomb, leading to concerns over favoritism. Though by 2019, ''Film/{{Dumbo|2019}}'' would bomb as well. |
| 147 | * ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'', though hugely popular, got some hate among teens and adults, mostly from HypeBacklash, and others who dislike its StrictlyFormula nature (despite often playing with the latter). It doesn't help that the rise in backlash happened around the early-mid 2010s, when it would be frequently be unfavorably contrasted with ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''. However, since the late 2010s, it has seen [[PopularityPolynomial a vast revival]] in memes and Internet culture, largely as a result of Gen Z members who grew up on the show, to the point that it even got [[WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerbTheMovieCandaceAgainstTheUniverse a movie]] on Creator/DisneyPlus over 5 years after the end of the show. |
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| 150 | |
| 151 | [[folder:Eastern Animation]] |
| 152 | * ''Animation/CrazyCandies'': |
| 153 | ** This show has been criticized on the Internet of China (the country that produces the series). Many teenagers and young adults hate it for copying ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' and its disgusting ToiletHumour. |
| 154 | ** Some parents also don't like this animation for its DemographicallyInappropriateHumour. |
| 155 | * ''Animation/MashaAndTheBear'' might be a mix of PeripheryDemographic and this, like ''WesternAnimation/DocMcStuffins''. The reason some people hate this show is because they [[TheScrappy find the hyperactive Masha annoying]] or think the show is too slow (or conversely too fast-paced) and childish. It has gotten to the point where the Get Movies video of the 17th episode has 839,000 dislikes, making it the 16th most disliked video on Platform/YouTube at the tiem. And sadly for them, it is quite everywhere. |
| 156 | * ''Animation/PleasantGoatAndBigBigWolf'' has an adult hatedom who criticizes the animation, writing, "lack of depth", and says that the show is childish. Those adults often claim that ''Manga/{{Doraemon}}'' and other {{anime}} are more appealing. |
| 157 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Colargol}}'' is a Polish-French puppet animation starting in 1969. Although a classic and well-regarded, among Polish Millenials it has a rather low reputation. One reason is that they have been growing up after the fall of communist rule, with plenty of access to more appealing entertainment than mom's and dad's puppet series which was nonetheless still aired on repeat by the public TV. The other reason is that Colargol, even compared to other Polish puppet animation, was a cuddly bear with a high-pitched voice who loved to sing and cried a lot, which [[CampStraight wasn't exactly]] [[NinetiesAntiHero the kind of character]] who appealed to a kid in the Nineties. Now, add the Internet so all those who didn't like him as kids could share their thoughts, and you have plenty of "ironic" hate usually expressed in homophobic slurs. |
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| 159 | |
| 160 | [[folder:Films -- Animation]] |
| 161 | * The ''WesternAnimation/IceAge'' sequels (the first film is generally well-regarded) tend to get criticized for being a little too cartoony and historically inaccurate by adults, and also for tending to have rather unoriginal stories. It doesn't help that they've made four sequels. The [[WesternAnimation/IceAgeCollisionCourse fourth sequel and overall fifth film in the franchise]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff performed well overseas]], but was a BoxOfficeBomb domestically amid competition from ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretLifeOfPets''. |
| 162 | * ''Franchise/DespicableMe'': The Minions gained one of these over time. They have gotten many accusations of being annoying, [[SpotlightStealingSquad over-promoted]], and upstaging all of the other characters of the two movies over time, resulting in people just getting sick of them. The straw that broke the camel's back was when they got [[WesternAnimation/{{Minions}} their own movie]], which ironically outgrossed the first two ''Despicable Me'' movies and became the second highest-grossing animated movie of all time, not helped by a ''huge'' promotional campaign that made it so you couldn't step outside without seeing some ''Minions''-branded products and made it so people outside the film's target audience or PeripheryDemographic couldn't just ignore it. The role of the minions had slightly decreased in the [[WesternAnimation/DespicableMe3 third film.]] |
| 163 | * Speaking of ''Despicable Me'', its studio Creator/{{Illumination}} and its other films (such as ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretLifeOfPets'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Sing}}'') suffer from this mainly from animation fans. Despite their films mostly being targeted towards children, the studio itself is criticized for gaining mass profit (mainly through excessive marketing) from their films, which tend to have a low budget. Because of this, people consider their films as SoOkayItsAverage. |
| 164 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheEmojiMovie'' has received numerous attacks from the Internet (even before it was released), mainly because of the fact that it was made to cash in on a popular fad, including blatant ProductPlacement for ''Candy Crush'' and ''VideoGame/JustDance'', among ''many other apps'', being an unoriginal ''WesternAnimation/TheLEGOMovie'' [[FollowTheLeader clone]] that also steals plot points from ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'' and ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' and having a ''Creator/PatrickStewart''-[[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking voiced pile of excrement as a character.]] |
| 165 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheNutJob'' got a lot of flack from critics because most of its characters are either {{Jerkass}}es (with protagonist Surly being among the worst in that regard), idiots, or just plain annoying. The ToiletHumour doesn't help its case either. |
| 166 | * Certain animated film buffs despise the ''Franchise/{{Trolls}}'' movies for being colorful, optimistic, containing pop songs, and supposedly enforcing the AnimationAgeGhetto. This ignores the fact that these specific movies are for kids and are quite well-liked by them. |
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| 169 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 170 | * In the specific case of ''Film/SpeedRacer'', a large portion of the original fanbase grew older and were likely expecting something ''a bit'' DarkerAndEdgier for them (like the ''Film/{{Transformers|FilmSeries}}'' movie). |
| 171 | * The ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' movies are hugely popular with kids, but subjects of mockery and critical ire for adults. As a bonus, the "squeakquel" handily outpacing the effort on ''WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' (intended to WinBackTheCrowd for hand-drawn animation) at the box office has earned it a great deal of wrath from Disney fans who mourn for the tastes of children. The backlash had finally caught up with the box office, when it had opened [[BoxOfficeBomb along with]] ''Film/TheForceAwakens''. |
| 172 | * Adult [[Franchise/TheMuppets Muppet]] fans have a history of forming Periphery Hatedoms towards movies that directly compete with, and outdraw, the newer Muppet movies. These movies usually aren't for their demographic and get much worse reviews than the well-reviewed Muppet movies. ''Film/TheMuppets2011'', despite getting rave reviews, was outdrawn by ''Literature/TheTwilightSaga: Literature/BreakingDawn - Part 1'' and ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks: Chipwrecked'', both of which got pretty bad reviews. Needless to say, ''Muppets'' fans don't take very kindly to young-adult female novel adaptations or half live-action half-CGI kiddie movies based on old cartoon characters. ''Film/MuppetsMostWanted'' got this even worse; not only was it beaten by ''Film/{{Divergent}}'' (a YA adaptation) at the box office, but it was even turned into an AcclaimedFlop due to the competition. |
| 173 | * Creator/TylerPerry's movies have created a series of minor racism controversies based on the fact that they tend to be critically-drubbed by the vast majority of critics (most of whom are white), yet are extraordinarily popular in the black community, which has turned these movies into #1 hits. Creator/RogerEbert seemed to be a particular target. On top of that, Perry also experiences this among black viewers. Perry got his start staging plays on what's sometimes called the "Chitlin' Circuit", a {{vaudeville}}-esque black theater circuit which primarily caters to older, more conservative, and more religious audiences. African American subcultures experience as much ValuesDissonance with each other as they do with anyone else; someone who identifies with Reggie Watts or Aaron [=McGruder=] could find Perry quite tasteless, and vice-versa. Perry even threatened to pull some of his content from TBS after one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' made harsh fun of the UnfortunateImplications and StrictlyFormula tendencies of Perry's movies. Either way, Perry [[PanderingToTheBase caters to a very specific demographic]] with which many African Americans do not identify. |
| 174 | * Minya (the "Film/SonOfGodzilla") was created specifically in 1967 [[KidAppealCharacter in order to appeal to younger audiences]] (at the time, there were more kids that were going to see Godzilla movies than adults). Minya went on to be [[TheScrappy the single most-hated character]] in the ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' franchise, with the possible exceptions of [[Film/GodzillaVsMegalon Jet Jaguar]], [[Film/GodzillaPlanetOfMonsters Haruo Sakaki]], and [[Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019 Emma Russell]]. |
| 175 | * ''Film/TheOogielovesInTheBigBalloonAdventure'' suffers hard from this trope according to several reviews. It doesn't help that it's essentially a combination of ''Barney and Friends'' and ''Series/{{Teletubbies}}'' (two of the most notorious examples) as a feature film. |
| 176 | * ''Film/TheSmurfs'' LiveActionAdaptation gets this under similar conditions to the ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'' movies. That and the fact that the [=CGI=] Smurfs look downright creepy. |
| 177 | * ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'': The movies are a big target for this kind of thing. |
| 178 | ** The ''Film/{{Transformers|FilmSeries}}'' movies in general, unlike [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers the original cartoon]], are aimed at teenage/young adult fanboys rather than children. They get a lot of hate from people outside that demographic (especially ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'') due to their shallow plotting, [[HumanFocusedAdaptation focus on the human characters]], [[BreadEggsMilkSquick overt sexism and objectification of female characters]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the overly complex designs for the robots]]. |
| 179 | ** ''Film/{{Bumblebee}}'', a throwback to the original cartoon to cater to fans of other ''Transformers'' media who disliked the previous films, gets hate from many fans of the previous films who consider its shift from action-focused to character-focused to make it boring. |
| 180 | * ''Film/PunchDrunkLove'', meant to be a semi-serious arthouse film, gathered a lot of ire when fans of Creator/AdamSandler's previous work (silly, mostly low-brow comedies) [[PlayingAgainstType didn't get what they expected out of it]]. |
| 181 | * Series/SiskelAndEbert somewhat infamously did a special episode about "Women in Danger" movies. To anyone particularly well-versed in horror the episode really seems quite ill-informed. The most obvious flaw is that they frequently assert that [[MurderersAreRapists Slashers are rapists]] representing sexually-frustrated males mad at feminism. Bizarrely, they used clips from the original ''Film/FridayThe13th1980'', which [[spoiler:[[ItWasHisSled has a female killer]]]]. |
| 182 | * ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' movies are disliked by some young children for their long running time and slow pacing resulting from their epic scale, and for being too difficult for them to understand compared to more family-friendly fantasy franchises like ''Franchise/HarryPotter''. |
| 183 | * ''Film/FireInTheSky'' is arguably one of the best-known alien abduction movies thanks to the infamous abduction flashback, yet it is also seen very negatively by parts of the [=UFOlogist=] community. Their particular bone to pick is that they consider it having been made needlessly scary and divergent from [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory the "true" story as told by the supposed abductee]], thus turning people off [=UFOlogy=] instead of drawing them in. Those [[ConspiracyTheorist more conspiratorially-minded]] go as far as to believe it's [[GovernmentConspiracy on purpose]], which does not endear them to it any further to say the least. |
| 184 | * ''Film/SoundOfFreedom'' is well-liked enough by its conservative target audience, as well as a good number of critics and centrist/apolitical viewers. However, the film is ''hated'' by many left-wing reviewers who label it as a [=QAnon=] propaganda piece and claim that it promotes a false narrative of real-life events. |
| 185 | * ''Film/LadyBallers'' is well-liked amongst the Daily Wire's right-wing subscribers but is labeled by many left-wing or simply trans-supportive/pro-trans critics and viewers as an unfunny and ineffective attempt to "trigger the libs". So much, in fact, that leftist comedy-news show ''WebVideo/SomeMoreNews'' dedicated [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrsysN_LBoo an entire hour-long episode]] just to roast the film. However, it's also less well-liked by the broader scope of conservative viewers, some of whom dislike the movie even if they agree with its anti-trans viewpoint. |
| 186 | * On the opposite side of the spectrum, ''Film/Barbie2023'' was easily the biggest blockbuster of the year, getting rave reviews, huge box-office returns and even multiple Oscar nominations including Best Picture. However, right-wing viewers and reviewers ''loathed'' the movie for its feminist messaging, which they gleefully labeled with the nebulously defined buzzword of "woke". The progressive themes in the film were so prevalent that said viewers/reviewers were unable to "claim" the movie like they had attempted with ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'',[[note]]largely citing star Creator/ChrisPratt's alleged politics and beliefs, which had no bearing on the film itself[[/note]] and so they continued to bash ''Barbie'' even months after its release. One particularly infamous incident involves Ben Shapiro tossing some Barbie dolls into a garbage fire to express his hatred of the film. |
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| 189 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 190 | * ''Literature/LeftBehind'' has a ''huge'' Periphery Hatedom; anybody who doesn't subscribe to the authors' precise apocalyptic vision is a potential member. Ironically [[http://exharpazo.blogspot.com/2007/01/index-to-slactivists-left-behind.html the most in-depth (by far) critique]] of the series is being produced by a (progressive) evangelical Christian.[[note]]On [[https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/about/ his own page]], he describes himself as "a snarky, liberal, tree-hugging, pro-choice, pro-GLBT, peacenik, commie evolutionist," so whether that includes some self-deprecatory humor or not, it's probably safe to say that he is not the sort of conservative Christian the books were written for.[[/note]] The hatred comes from several directions: those who aren't Christians and disagree with its message from the outset, those who ''are'' Christians but think the authors are on the fringe and [[StopBeingStereotypical making the rest look bad]], those from Christian denominations that don't believe in the Rapture (most of them), and those who ''are'' Christian and who believe the Rapture is imminent, but think ''Left Behind'' has got it all wrong. Some may feel it's an easy work of fiction to avoid due to limited mainstream marketing, though this depends on where you live, such as if you're in an area where typical ''Left Behind'' readers are the majority (though even then, it's hardly on the level of ''Twilight''). However, much like some of the ''Twilight'' hatred, the criticism is sometimes about what the stories are indicative of, and what influence they have on the readers in the intended demographic. And then there are those people who just find apocalyptic (non)fiction creepy, and wish people would just keep their [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt End of the World as We Know It]] fantasies -- or beliefs -- to themselves. |
| 191 | * Despite the huge amount of adult fans of ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' in the late 2000s and early 2010s, there was (and still is) a sizeable adult hatedom of the books due to the fact that they view the protagonist as being a not very respectful person that is a bad influence on children or [[AnimationAgeGhetto the fact that the books are not "real literature" due to having cartoon illustrations]]. |
| 192 | * ''Literature/TheTwilightSaga'' attracts both legions of fans even in this very wiki, and even larger legions of the {{Hatedom}}, some of whom have never read the books or seen the movies, and some who have. The hatred tends to be split between the direct hatred for the [[YourVampiresSuck sparkly vampires]] / PurpleProse sex scenes/UnfortunateImplications allegations/ what have you, the HypeAversion from all the Edward-or-Jacob ShipToShipCombat that saturated the world, and the (sometimes fanatically) held belief that [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking it's just not written very well]]. The hate for ''Twilight'' among Goths seems to be particularly vitriolic. Anyone expressing love for ''Twilight'' is generally met with an icy or hostile reception. Events specifically to bash ''Twilight'' are common. The Hatedom got so big that it created a whole new fandom. The riffs off the [[TheFilmOfTheBook film adaptations]] of this series on Podcast/RiffTrax became the most popular and anticipated riffs. |
| 193 | * ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' gets this from two groups: non-Christians who dislike its overtly Christian themes and symbolism and see them as propaganda, and adult fantasy fans who dislike it for being LighterAndFluffier than contemporary fantasy like the works of Tolkien. It was never made for either of these groups: Lewis wrote it for children who were ''already'' Christian (not to convert those who weren't) to explore their faith through a more accessible framework than Literature/TheBible. He even got angry letters from some parents for his apparent blasphemy in supposedly turning Jesus into a lion; Lewis responded that children often see animals as people, so it's not blasphemous to ''them''. |
| 194 | * Almost all German students who had to read one of the works of Creator/TheodorFontane (particularly ''Literature/EffiBriest'') ''hate'' it. This goes even beyond the disdain for being forced to read (and analyze) classics in school, as ''Effi Briest'' was simply never aimed at a young adult audience. Even most teachers are able to admit that they themselves only learned to enjoy the book when they were well into middle age. And they ''studied'' literature in college, so they ''better'' enjoy German classics. |
| 195 | * ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' is often particularly hated by boys [[MediaNotes/SchoolStudyMedia who have to read it in high school English]]. It's easy to see why; it is written in a dense 19th-century prose, features a group of sisters as its main characters, and has a plot that focuses on their efforts to get hitched. Not usual boy stuff. |
| 196 | * According to [[Website/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]], ''Literature/TheBerenstainBears'' has quite a bit of hatred that comes from parents who despise the books for being shallow, StrictlyFormula stories that are so {{Anvilicious}} that they forget they're trying to tell a story at all. This isn't completely unjustified; first off, this comes from parents who are forced to read the books to their kids all the time because of course, their kids love them, but even those who don't completely hate the books will reluctantly admit these are genuine problems, especially evidenced by the serious cases of CompressedVice. Some parents have also expressed disdain for the books featuring the two common sitcom parent stereotypes, the BumblingDad and the stern mother, with one news writer saying in reference to the 1980s AnimatedAdaptation that "[[TakeThatScrappy some viewers may find it a genuine relief when the cubs break their mother's favorite lamp]]." |
| 197 | * ''Literature/FiftyShadesOfGrey'' and its sequels are hated by segments of the UsefulNotes/{{BDSM}} community that interpret some of Christian’s behaviour to be stalking and abuse of power, rather than part of a healthy BDSM relationship. Hate from the BDSM community counts as periphery. Despite the BDSM themes and scenes in the novels the BDSM community is not the target audience. Its target audience is consumers of fantasy romance novels. |
| 198 | * The books of Australian children's author Creator/AndyGriffiths, particularly ''Literature/TheBumTrilogy'' and his ''[[Literature/AndyGriffithsJustSeries Just...!]]'' series, are very popular with their target audience and have sold very well worldwide, but that doesn't stop many adults (typically MoralGuardians, overprotective parents, and those who didn't grow up with his work) from hating on them for featuring large amounts of grossout humor. Same applies with the {{Animated Adaptation}}s of his work. |
| 199 | * To this day, ''Literature/CaptainUnderpants'' is one of the most popular children's books worldwide with its target audience, but had a significant Periphery Hatedom with MoralGuardians who claim the books teach "bad morals" and hate them for their grossout and ToiletHumour. As a result, ''Captain Underpants'' has become one of the most challenged children's books in the United States, being banned in many libraries by overprotective parents and outraged conservatives. However, this hatedom diminished as those who read the books as kids grew up, and the series now sports a pretty large PeripheryDemographic. |
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| 203 | * {{Boy band}}s in general. It is well-known that many of these bands are manufactured more for looks than for sound. It doesn't help that they traditionally don't write their own music and often have only vocalists in their official line-up, which costs them respect even with fans of the pop genre. |
| 204 | ** Music/TheMonkees could be considered the prototypical boy band, and at the time they had the periphery hatedom to match. While they were a smash hit in the 60's, they also received plenty of flack for being obviously manufactured (they were formed by a couple TV executives who were accused of wanting to ride the coattails of the Beatles) and for not playing their own instruments on albums (never mind that the band argued against doing this and that they weren't the only act of the time to do it); if you wanted to look remotely hip or intellectual, you had to completely disavow them. However, they ended up VindicatedByHistory and getting critical respect for the music they made after shaking off the executive meddling, and are fondly remembered by plenty of people today. |
| 205 | ** This attitude goes back a long way. In TheSeventies, [[TheLastDJ Johnnie Walker]] was famously fired by Creator/TheBBC for the first time for his adamant refusal to play hits by the manufactured boy band of the day, The Bay City Rollers, on his prime-time show. Johnnie pointed out he only wanted to play quality music by ''real'' groups. The [=BBC=] disagreed with his stance that the presenter should be free to pick his own playlist and sacked him. [[note]]Johnnie Walker now presents a retrospective 1970's music show for the [=BBC=]. He has mellowed slightly, grudgingly agrees the Rollers are part of many people's 1970's memories, and has agreed to play the occasional Rollers track. He thinks one a year is a good compromise. [[/note]] |
| 206 | ** Boy band hatedom has been suggested by Creator/CarsonDaly to be one of the reasons [[Horrible/MusicFestivals Woodstock '99]] degenerated into a bloodbath. ''[[Creator/{{MTV}} TRL]]'', a music video vote-in show which often ended up playing a mixture of boy bands and rock/hip-hop acts, was assigned a stage right next to the rock stage, and anti-boyband sentiment was encouraged by the acts that played there (for example, Music/TheOffspring opened their set by battering a line of blowup dolls fitted with Music/BackstreetBoys facemasks with a hot pink baseball bat). The result was Daly getting pelted with abuse and missiles objects by a drunk, belligerent crowd determined to express their hatred of Daly for 'ruining music'. A net was put up at the front of the stage to guard the presenters, which was taken down by someone hurling a watermelon. Daly ended up so cut up with broken glass that he had to perform to camera in a jacket to cover up the lacerations on his arms; eventually, Viacom pulled the presenters out as they could no longer guarantee their safety, which spared the ''TRL'' staff from having to experience the riots and fires that occurred in the festival's last days. Producer Dave Holmes claimed he got PTSD from it and felt like he'd been covering a war zone. |
| 207 | ** InUniverse, [[Music/{{Eminem}} Slim Shady's]] hatred of {{Boy Band}}s and TeenPop is an iconic part of his characterisation, but part of the joke is that a psychotic rapper cares so much about music aimed at preteen girls. Throughout ''Music/TheMarshallMathersLP'' he parodies the sound of boybands, sometimes with obvious affection, and in "Without Me" he geekishly namechecks Chris Kirkpatrick for an ass-kicking, a member of Music/{{NSYNC}} who had not reached the household-name-recognition status of Music/JustinTimberlake or Creator/LanceBass. Eminem regretted this element of his act and dropped it other than {{Continuity Nod}}s - in 2013's "Evil Twin", Slim is [[AntagonistInMourning genuinely upset]] about running out of boy bands to insult. Eminem stated that he started dissing boybands because his PrettyBoy physical appearance led to people assuming he was a PopRap industry creation aimed at the [[TeenIdol teen girl market]]; despite all of his accomplishments as a songwriter, producer and vocalist, the stigma against boy bands was enough that he had to become a professional boy-band hater in order to maintain a career, simply because he looked cute. Eminem has, however, never been negative about acts due to them having a female audience; he's always stated that he styled his own presentation on his idol Music/LLCoolJ, legendary for his EstrogenBrigade. (Eminem's own fandom was, and still is, chiefly female.) |
| 208 | *** Strangely, Music/DonnyOsmond stated that Eminem hugged him after meeting him at an awards show, saying he viewed him as a major inspiration. So the boybands Eminem grew up with were cool; not so much the boybands his female fans in 2000 might have liked. |
| 209 | ** Music/{{Hanson}} in particular, from the amount of bile it raised in the non-fan throat. Hanson wasn't even a boy band in the traditional sense, since they at least wrote their own songs and played the instruments themselves (as well as being actually, y'know, ''[[BandOfRelatives related]]'' to each other instead of being manufactured according to some kind of "next, we need a dark-haired Bad Boy" list). Yet because they consisted of photogenic young men who made poppy music, they were lumped in with the rest. |
| 210 | ** Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/{{NSYNC}} were notable because they tried to reach for a PeripheryDemographic and were smacked down. Some people were even surprised to learn that these were different bands. To make things even more interesting, Music/JustinTimberlake (from [=*NSYNC=]) ''did'' gain success outside the usual boy-band demographic. |
| 211 | ** Music/OneDirection has one, but it's not nearly as large as the other ones. This is mostly because of Justin Bieber's hatedom being so big that instead of moving on to 1D they continued to hate Bieber. This was largely out of fear that he might continue to prosper without them trying to pull him down and/or they gave 1D a free pass solely so they can wipe Bieber Fever off the face of the planet. The ploy to wipe Bieber Fever off of the face of the planet worked. Bieber himself continues unabated, to the hatedom's disappointment. |
| 212 | ** Music/TheWanted and Series/BigTimeRush, on the other hand, do not really have such hatedoms, as their fandoms aren't large enough to spawn one in the first place. Most of their haters are One Direction fans. |
| 213 | ** It has [[https://thesundae.net/2020/08/04/we-are-the-sunshine-nation/ been suggested]] that Music/McFly suffered from reflexive hatred of their boy-band-ness to the extent that their genuine musicianship, craft and geeky influence from 1950-1970 rock 'n' roll and pop was overlooked or explained away by critics. |
| 214 | * This was also true of the Motown girls' groups (e.g. The Supremes), doo-wop, and a dozen other genres. In the old days, even classical musicians were hired as much for their looks as for their talent. The problem is really that these boys are being picked ''for girls to ogle'', which is a Bad Thing because if girls are ogling them, they're not ogling the young men who make up this particular Periphery Hatedom. |
| 215 | * Pop princesses, such as Music/BritneySpears and Music/ChristinaAguilera, ''may'' have moved out of this category if they managed to grow up with any grace or artistry. Christina Aguilera successfully transferred to other genres, but this resulted in her falling well out of the limelight, so her hatedom has died down a bit. Britney Spears started to die down, but then it flared back up again when Kevin Federline entered her life and the media debacle that surrounded that. She's calmed down since then, and is starting to gain a bit of respect again for moving on with her career. |
| 216 | * Music/JustinBieber, another TeenIdol, had one of the biggest music periphery hatedoms in a long time. The huge media coverage (including being the focal point of one of Funnyordie.com's AprilFoolsDay pranks) didn't help. The hatred of Bieber became so widespread that about half of all Platform/YouTube videos, even those unrelated to Bieber, have someone complaining about him in the comments. In addition, Bieber was ranked #1 on the "2014's Most Annoying Celebrities" list. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meQEM3nVmi8 While there are valid reasons to dislike him based on his actions]], he has yet to do anything that really seems heinous enough to justify being voted among the [[https://www.thetoptens.com/most-evil-people-in-history/ top ten most evil people in history]] alongside UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler and UsefulNotes/JosefStalin. The problem is so bad that Justin Bieber's Wikipedia entry is one of the most vandalized pages on the site, so much that it's listed twice in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Most_vandalized_pages Most Vandalized Pages]] list (though whether that was intentional or not is unclear) and listed as semi-protected on the French version of that list. |
| 217 | * Music/TaylorSwift has haters that think she is a soulless sellout. Then there are the people who think she's anti-feminist for singing stereotypical love songs and spending most of her time mooning over boys. She also gets bashed for portraying herself as a PuritySue (which is especially ridiculous when you consider songs like "[[BreakUpBonfire Picture To Burn]]", "[[BestServedCold Better Than Revenge]]", and "[[IntercourseWithYou Sparks Fly]]"). Though, this has lessened a little bit after she recorded a song for ''Film/TheHungerGames'' movie, singing about something different. |
| 218 | * Backlash against {{Disco}} during its heyday in the 70s was so great that there is [[DiscoSucks a trope]] named after this backlash. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night Disco Demolition Night]] is a famous example of contemporary hatred toward the genre. |
| 219 | ** Specifically targeted are Music/TheBeeGees, who were the face of disco in the late 1970s. Many were celebrating in the early 1980s when their amazing hit streak of the late 1970s came to a sudden halt (after 1979's "Love You Inside Out"), but even though they no longer dominated the charts, the Bee Gees -- always well-respected for their harmonies -- continued to sell out concerts, its members (specifically, Barry Gibb) continued to write hit songs for other artists, and in time, their songs that hit during the peak of their popularity began to receive heavy airplay on oldies stations. |
| 220 | ** One possible reason that disco continues to be intensely hated is that in one way [[UndeadHorseTrope it managed to remain ubiquitous even after it died out]]. By the time [[PopularityPolynomial 1970s nostalgia swept America in the mid-'90s]], disco had become [[PopularHistory so inextricably identified with the decade that spawned it]] that -- for a while, at least -- it effectively buried all other (usually more serious or "harder") pop music genres from that time period, from [[PunkRock punk rock]] to prog rock to power pop to early metal. Genuine fans of '70s pop culture were not amused to see it reduced to a laughingstock by ignorant (and often younger) observers who naturally assumed that [[{{Flanderization}} the '70s had given rise to only one, extremely obnoxious style of music]]. Think of it as a sort of retroactive StopBeingStereotypical. (Many fans of '80s music loathe HairMetal for the same reason.) |
| 221 | ** To bring this example back to the literal meaning of the trope, disco, a genre that had largely been created and defined by and for blacks, Hispanics and gays, got its biggest hatred from the kind of working-class white kids who made [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night Disco Demolition Night]] into what it was.[[note]]Ironically, the same demographic among which ''Film/SaturdayNightFever'' is set[[/note]] Yes, there was undeniably racism and homophobia in play, but as Steve Dahl [[http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20140710/OPINION/140709818/disco-demolition-35-years-later-thats-the-way-i-liked-it noted]] long afterwards, disco culture was inherently expensive, in that you would have to buy nice clothes and learn how to dance in order to be socially successful in a future disco universe. It also isn't the kind of music you could (at the time anyway) get together a garage band and play on your own. |
| 222 | * Pat Boone as a 1950s-'60s pop idol, since his career was built largely on making the more incendiary forms of popular music such as R&B [[TheMoralSubstitute "safe"]] for white listeners; and borrowing (stealing?) from black musicians white audiences wouldn't listen to. His later position as a Christian conservative commentator did nothing to help this. In fact, Little Richard's "Long Tall Sally" was written to be a song that Pat Boone would never cover. It backfired. |
| 223 | * For a period, Music/MichaelBolton received so much bashing that "''Kill Michael Bolton!''" jokes practically became a DeadHorseTrope of their own. And Ryan Stiles from ''Series/WhoseLineIsItAnyway'' continued to relentlessly make Bolton jokes even after his popularity had waned. ''Film/OfficeSpace'' can't have helped (Die, motherfucker, die, motherfucker, die!). Granted, that was the printer, but Michael has similar feelings about the musician. |
| 224 | * Music/TheWiggles has a hatedom consisting of older children and adults, mostly because many of their songs are for younger children. [[UnfortunateImplications Some also find the idea of men spending time with children creepy]] (before the new, young members, including one woman, replaced the old ones). |
| 225 | * Music/LadyGaga gets this, for many reasons by many different demographics, but, specifically, by non-camp males because of her [[{{Camp}} over-the-top]] refusal to be "conventional". Despite frequent PanderingToTheBase, people wonder why she's not so widely celebrated outside her obvious target demographic. Given the calculated way she behaves and dresses "non-conventionally", it's almost like she's trying for this sort of reaction. |
| 226 | * Rap music in general. |
| 227 | ** The genre tends to inspire a generational divide between the Creator/{{MTV}}[=/=]Creator/{{BET}}-watching youth of its fans and their out-of-touch adult parents who take offense to lyrics thay consider to be violent and misogynistic. Rap is even the preferred punching bag of older Black leaders who accuse/scapegoat it for [[StopBeingStereotypical promoting stereotypes]] and instilling in its listeners distorted messages about Black culture. It also has a MASSIVE hatedom amongst fans of classic rock, mainly because it's effectively replaced most genres of rock in the mainstream these days. As with the NBA example mentioned in the sports folder, it's also a convenient dog whistle for racists, especially if they claim that all rappers are "thugs." |
| 228 | ** Time killed this when the original "Creator/{{MTV}} Generation" (who were teens during the '80s and early '90s) turned into parents, though it's still an issue for the older teens and young adults who are the children of the Baby Boomers (who were teens during the '60s and '70s, before rap became mainstream). |
| 229 | ** Of course, now that Generation Z have their own new styles of rap, old-school fans who grew up in the 80s and 90s turn into a periphery hatedom with the cries of TheyChangedItNowItSucks. |
| 230 | ** Reggaeton, being a derivative from rap and dancehall, has a hatedom in Latin America similar to the one towards rap, for the same demographics and for similar reasons. They also get fire from the heavy sexual content of several songs, which adds a lot of MoralGuardians of the ThinkOfTheChildren type to the hatedom. |
| 231 | ** There's a substantial rivalry between metal and rap, though it's mostly one sided, since [[UnknownRival most rap fans are oblivious to it]]. This comes mostly from metal fans believing metal should be the biggest genre in the charts, and blame the popularity of rap for stopping this. They will lament the glory days of Nu Metal, but forget it was just as much a fad as anything else. (Ironically, when metal was at the peak of its popularity in TheEighties, it was in the incarnation of HairMetal, which most of these critics also despise.) In actual fact, many metal fans like rap music and vice versa. |
| 232 | ** Fans of rock and metal both regard rap music as having trashy culture and requiring "no talent" simply because they don't emphasize instruments as much. |
| 233 | * CrunkCore has the most storied Periphery Hatedom of any genre. |
| 234 | * Music/KidzBop, a series of covers of popular songs sung by little kids with more kid-appropriate lyrics. It is aimed at little kids, and universally despised and panned by everyone older than 10. |
| 235 | ** The hatedom can also be spanned from the fact that ads for Kidz Bop play ''all the time'' on networks like Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. |
| 236 | ** Musicspace gives the series surprisingly good reviews, but these are mostly parents who bought the [=CDs=] for their kids, plus the site is directly connected to its record label, Razor & Tie. All other sites trash the series mercilessly. |
| 237 | * As white-hot as Music/TheBeatles were in the sixties, they weren't without their share of hatred. Some of it came from their target demographic, such as fans of other British Invasion groups such as Herman's Hermits and the Dave Clark Five or American groups like Frankie Valli And The Four Seasons. But much of it was from older adults who found their music to be more flash-in-the-pan disposable pop, and particularly, MoralGuardians (lampshaded in Allan Sherman's novelty tune "Pop Hates The Beatles"). Hatred from the latter would reach a fever pitch after Music/JohnLennon was quoted saying the Beatles were "[[BiggerThanJesus more popular than Christ]]", prompting fundamentalist Christians to burn all Beatle memorabilia (Lennon would heavy-heartedly clarify, "I'm not saying we're ''better'' than Christ or ''greater'' than Christ. I'm just saying we're more popular.") But by the time the band had reached ''Revolver'' and ''Sgt. Pepper'', though, showing that they were more than just "yeah yeah"s, even adults had to sit up and took notice, and [[VindicatedByHistory they began to be seen as the musical pioneers they're known as today]]. The hatedom even wanted to define the (at the time) recent term ''beatlemania'' as a form of female hysteria in an attempt to show off that fangirls of Music/TheBeatles had a psychiatric illness that must be treated. Psychiatrists noted this and gave some of those a psychiatric test. The result was, predictably, that they did not suffer from any mental problems whatsoever and the term was redefined to maintain that being a fangirl is normal. |
| 238 | * Music/ElvisPresley is a pretty polarizing figure in Rock and Roll among blacks. Some are appreciative of the attention Elvis brought to the genre among the white community, creating openings for black artists. Others felt he had appropriated the genre to the detriment of black artists who had been doing it long before he did. Elvis gave credit many times to earlier black artists whose songs he covered (to a much greater degree than, say, Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}} or Music/LedZeppelin), but it didn't help that some of his fans believed he actually invented Rock and Roll. Elvis was also hated by some whites for being "too black", making him a [[HalfBreedDiscrimination Tragic Mulatto]] of sorts. And then, there were Moral Guardians who also hated his sound in general … and the fact that he swiveled his hips during his performances. |
| 239 | * Creator/HarryBelafonte is a polarizing figure amongst fans of calypso music. Although he brought the music to the attention of an American audience, he's criticised for doing so by watering the music down and generally playing traditional songs, not competing in calypso tents, and crediting other people's songs to himself. However, Belafonte was in fact very respectful towards the musicians and the record company was mostly to blame for the credits issue. He did end up crediting them for his songs. He signed so many calypso artists to RCA that they started a Trinidad division, and he paid them well. |
| 240 | * Music/CelineDion got a fair bit of this, principally due to the overexposure of her hit "My Heart Will Go On" from ''Film/{{Titanic|1997}}'', but as her profile has diminished in the ensuing years, so has the hate, and many of those who were once part of the hatedom have changed their ways and now appreciate her music. |
| 241 | * CountryMusic: |
| 242 | ** In general. Most people who claim to "hate" country seem to hold it entirely to many Southern stereotypes which are far from universal. |
| 243 | ** Music made after the early 1990s, in the eyes of classic country fans and more specifically, purists. Major complaints include the sound and the artistry being little more than bad pop/adult contemporary/arena rock music that has little to no resemblance to country music made prior to the 1980s, and the newer artists getting favor while classic artists who continued to write, record and release new material -- including but not limited to Merle Haggard, Music/GeorgeJones, Loretta Lynn and dozens of others -- began to be ignored by radio and ultimately, the mainstream media. Since rural America has gone from poor to rich, the shift is understandable but still disturbing to some. Meanwhile, younger fans frequently find the classic sounds and music recorded by such pioneers as Kitty Wells, Music/HankWilliams, Webb Pierce and others outdated, unrefined, unrelatable and unlistenable. |
| 244 | ** Bro-country music has earned a ''huge'' hatedom from people who absolutely hate its generic lyrics about sex, tailgating and drinking (Music/ColeSwindell, Music/FloridaGeorgiaLine, Music/LukeBryan, etc.), as well as certain modern country artists who eschew actual country production in favor of electronic beats and pure pop production (such as Music/SamHunt). Female artists who have made songs that actually support bro-country stereotypes ([=RaeLynn=], Maggie Rose) have also gotten trashing from bro-country haters as well. The hatedom gradually died down as bro-country fell out of favor. |
| 245 | ** "Boyfriend country" came when artists like Music/ThomasRhett (a former purveyor of "bro-country"), Music/DanAndShay, Music/KaneBrown, and Brett Young began pushing more romantic songs targeted at female audiences. While this served as one of the things to help "bro-country" fall out of favor and drew in young female fans of country music who had previously been repelled by "bro-country", it also created a Periphery Hatedom in the form of male fans of country to whom the songs are not directed in the first place. |
| 246 | * In several countries, folkloric music, either from the own or from their neighboring countries, by people who are more into "mainstream" music (read: rock and pop). For example, at one time in Venezuela there is the trifecta hate from people of the capital and neighboring cities towards joropo (because of being perceived as backwards music from country simpletons, and for having been used as a filler during a period of obligatory 1:1 ratio of imported/local music), [[GaitaZuliana Zulian Gaita]] (because of saturation of the airwaves on Christmas time and extreme regional thematic) and vallenato (because of its association with Colombian immigration, often stereotyped as criminals and violent bus drivers who like to play music in their vehicles on an ear-damaging volume). |
| 247 | ** In Mexico, "banda" music (a genre consisting of very loud brass instruments and percussions alongside some accordion) and "corridos" (like folk ballads but with the same loud brass and accordions, originally born during the Mexican Revolution to tell stories about folk heroes or notable historic characters, but which now focus mostly on narcos) are a divisive topic, as listening to them is associated with a very specific stereotype of low-income, poorly-educated people who think the only or best way to make money is the drug business, are usually alcoholics, ultraconservative and ignorant (a mix between rednecks and hillbillies who want to become druglords). Therefore, those two genres are derided as trashy, uncultred crap by half the country, especially by metal fans, who seem to harbor an almost animalistic hatred for them. However, this music is ''very'' popular with the other half of the population, so it's borderline inescapable, particularly in the north, where radio stations that play banda/corridos and stations that play ''anything else'' are on a 1:1 ratio; and where ''any'' event, be it weddings, baptisms, house parties, etc. ''will'' end up playing banda until unholy hours of the night at ear-destroying volume. |
| 248 | * Music/SouljaBoy managed to get this from ''three'' demographics -- Veteran rappers (most notably Music/IceT) and their fans who felt his simple "how to do a dance" raps were ruining the genre, anime fans who were horrified by his [[IAmNotShazam terribly]] [[CowboyBebopAtHisComputer ill-informed]] attempt to make a song about how he was [[JustForFun/OneOfUs an anime fan himself]], and ironically, actual veterans. Why the last? A song called "Let's Be Real," wherein he brags about how he got rich with his DIY approach to music and says "Fuck all the army troops." |
| 249 | * The late Music/MichaelJackson used to gather quite some flak in his time, mainly due to the scandals he got into, for being a {{Manchild}} in general, and for just being around kids. Notably, the haters often overlap with those who hate Barney as well (as noted on the documents at Jihad.net). [[NeverSpeakIllOfTheDead This has mostly died down since his passing]], but some people still have hate on him. |
| 250 | * The ChristianRock genre is the pun of many jokes, except for certain bands like Music/{{Skillet}}, even from Christians. |
| 251 | * [[HeavyMetal Metal]] gets a lot of hate from multiple camps, such as those who consider it Satanic or those who stereotype it as loud, angry screaming and loud noise. Then there's the intergenre rivalry, with [[PretenderDiss "true" metal fans disdaining]] both the HairMetal groups and their fans, expressing outrage that this pop garbage dares to call itself "metal." What they apparently forget is that "heavy metal" was a term coined by the critics, not by the fans or the band members themselves, and it just became generally appropriated. Furthermore, bands such as Music/MotleyCrue and Music/{{Poison}} are increasingly no longer thought of as metal anyway, now that more extreme bands have gone mainstream. |
| 252 | * Music in Brazil has a hatedom from all sides. People who enjoy rock (especially heavy metal) generally hate Brazilian music to the point of not considering it part of Brazilian culture, but just trash. People who enjoy Brazilian music generally hate rock (especially heavy metal), saying it's just people screaming and not singing, and think people who enjoy rock are just a bunch of [[BasementDweller nerds]] and [[VirginityMakesYouStupid virgins]]. |
| 253 | ** The two most popular rhythms of TheNewTens also became magnets for hate: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funk_carioca the local funk]] (which bears almost no resemblance to original {{funk}}) is bashed for coupling contemptible themes (either sex or crime glamourization) and simplistic rhythms; and then there's the local country scene, more specifically the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musica_sertaneja#Sertanejo_universitario "college country"]] subgenre, which is considered too urban and shallow. |
| 254 | * Music/KanyeWest's detractors can be split up into two groups: the first are general music listeners who think his music sucks and are appalled by his infamously jerkish, AttentionWhore-y behavior (indeed, his sudden and unexpected declaration that George Bush doesn't care about black people and interrupting Taylor Swift have become subject to serious MemeticMutation, though it has died down after a while). The second are disgruntled longtime fans who think his ''[[TheyChangedItNowItSucks current]]'' music sucks and are appalled by his infamously jerkish, AttentionWhore-y behavior and miss when he [[UsedToBeASweetKid used to be more agreeable]] and made more soulful-sounding beats instead of the [[DarkerAndEdgier darker,]] [[GenreBusting more experimental]] sound that his projects have taken on since ''808s & Heartbreak''. Kanye's own "I Love Kanye" from ''The Life of Pablo'' even [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] the existence of the latter camp: |
| 255 | -->''I miss the old Kanye''\ |
| 256 | ''Straight-from-the-go Kanye''\ |
| 257 | ''Chop-up-the-soul Kanye''\ |
| 258 | ''Set-on-his-goals Kanye''\ |
| 259 | ''I hate the new Kanye''\ |
| 260 | ''The bad mood Kanye''\ |
| 261 | ''The always rude Kanye''\ |
| 262 | ''Spaz-in-the-news Kanye'' |
| 263 | * Music/FiveSecondsOfSummer in the first few years of their mainstream popularity attracted a large hatedom. Much of this came from them coming off as a boy band thanks to their marketing and starting off as a Platform/YouTube cover band from Australia that got a *massive* lucky break due to One Direction bringing them on tour with them. This didn't do them favors with the pop punk/alt rock scene at the time, who saw them as a teeny bopper band who didn't pay their dues. Due to the 1D co-sign, they managed to skip putting out the amount of albums or doing the amount of touring that their contempories would have to get to the same point. Even the more positive comments towards them from the pop punk/alt rock scene had the undercurrent of them being good...for potentially getting people into "better", less popular bands. |
| 264 | ** A major complaint at them was that a surprising amount of their early pop punk material was heavily derivative of older songs from bands both they and PopPunk fans grew up listening to. Only Music/DuranDuran recieved a direct credit on "Hey Everybody!", on advice from the band's legal team. This unfortunately mixed with less credible accusations towards the band. This includes a FUSE interview having to be edited after the Madden Brothers defended use of the "12-bar blues" chord progression in "She's Kinda Hot" after Music/MyChemicalRomance fans accused 5 Seconds of Summer of ripping off "Teenagers". |
| 265 | ** The band's early career hatedom and accusations of plagarism largely died down as 5 Seconds of Summer swerved out of pop punk into 80s inspired radio pop rock with Youngblood and started taking more direct creative control over their own material. Pop punk fans who had originally bashed 5 Seconds of Summer in the mid-2010s largely moved onto bashing artists from the rapper-turned-rocker heavy 2020s pop punk revival. Some of these acts ended up being even ''more'' deriviative of 90s-2000s pop punk than 5 Seconds of Summer, with an increasing amount of younger acts giving established pop punk groups pre-emptive or retroactive song credits to avoid plagarism accusations. |
| 266 | * Pop punk itself gets frequent hate from fans of classic and hardcore punk, often being perceived as selling out the punk spirit while keeping the aesthetics to draw in more impressionable teenage consumers. This spawned the "defend pop punk" tagline, which itself is now being used against newer acts who are trying to piggyback off of the success of the 2020s pop punk revival, but are seen as being even bigger sellouts. |
| 267 | * Post-grunge, a genre targeted to the aging Generation X crowd, received major backlash from younger millennial musicians and journalists, particularly fans of the original grunge,some of whom blamed it for the decline of rock's popularity in the 2010s. |
| 268 | * The song "Ain't It Funny" by Music/JenniferLopez and Ja Rule gets some hate from Music/LinkinPark fans due to infamously keeping out "In The End" from reaching #1 on the Billboard ''Hot 100'' in 2002. |
| 269 | * [[KoreanPopMusic K-pop]], especially after its rise in popularity at the end of the 2010s, has seen a significant hatedom form over the years. Many K-pop detractors are those who are simply sick of the genre's "stans", who are notorious for hijacking random posts on social media (including those announcing the deaths of beloved figures) to post footage of their favorite artists singing or dancing, using bots to artificially inflate sales and play numbers on websites like [=Last.fm=] and Spotify, and [[HypeBacklash overpraising]] their favorite artists which detractors view as little more than boy bands and girl groups (which are already known for their massive hatedoms) that aren't deserving of the hype. |
| 270 | * Creator/{{Pinkfong}}'s "Baby Shark" gets this from people older than the target demographic of toddlers because they find it mundane and repetitive. |
| 271 | * Electronic dance music (or "techno" as its detractors call it, ignoring the wide range of subgenres) is disliked by fans of rock and metal for reasons similar to rap -- it's often perceived as being excessively repetitive and not "real" music due to being produced mainly with computer software rather than acoustic instruments, giving the impression that making electronic music is a "no-talent" copy-and-paste job. |
| 272 | * The Music/{{VOCALOID}} line of software is disliked by those who feel that it has the dangerous potential to replace actual human singers, or think that the synthesized singing that they produce sounds too robotic. |
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| 275 | [[folder:My Little Pony]] |
| 276 | |
| 277 | ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' has such a colorful history of hatedom that it has its own section: |
| 278 | * The ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' franchise, even ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Friendship is Magic]]'', being intentionally aimed at children, has a Periphery Hatedom; even ''Friendship Is Magic'''s PeripheryDemographic denies it. |
| 279 | * Bizarrely, the show has ended up with not one, but ''three'' periphery hatedoms: |
| 280 | ** The first is directed towards the show itself. This is the standard hatedom, primarily composed of people who do not watch the show and hate it on principle just because it's ''My Little Pony''. Even in any age range, adults who never actually watched it, tend to hate and deride the show for being too boring (the same goes for every single iteration of the franchise and ''Friendship Is Magic'' is no exception). |
| 281 | ** The second is targeted towards the show's own PeripheryDemographic. ''Friendship Is Magic'' is in a very strange situation where a show gains a hatedom because it's '''better than expected'''. Its wild success led to the creation of a massive (and vocal) fandom of adults and hence an even harder pushback from the Hatedom, with people joining in on the hatred simply because they're sick of seeing the show brought up everywhere. With a vast fandom invariably come bad apples, and even some "bronies" find themselves disapproving of some of the more... ''questionable'' things their fellow bronies do. Oh yeah, and [[RuleThirtyFour there's fanmade porn of the characters. Loads and loads of fanmade porn]]. This is another significant factor contributing towards the hatred of the fandom, especially from the anti-furry community, who tend to lump all bronies together with furries. |
| 282 | ** The final periphery hatedom just lumps it all into one basket, hating everything about both. |
| 283 | * Many adult collectors of the older ''My Little Pony'' generations dislike the toyline for ''Friendship is Magic'' due to their smaller size and perceived poorer quality, with many toys lacking brushable manes in favor of sculpted ones. There's also the fact that it focused overwhelmingly on characters from the cartoon instead of introducing new ponies in waves like previous generations, a complaint also thrown at the "Core 7" era of Gen 3. While there do exist [[ToylineExclusiveCharacter Toyline Original Characters]], they were mostly recolors and usually relegated to low quality blind bag figures at best. |
| 284 | * Before [=FiM=] and the bronies, ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyG3'' had hatedom from fans of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'' due to the genre switch to SliceOfLife. '''And then''' even fans of ''My Little Pony Tales'' usually '''despise''' ''G3'' due to its significant drop in animation quality and the plots becoming increasingly insipid and boring, even for a SliceOfLife ''My Little Pony'' show. |
| 285 | * Generation 3.5 is widely-hated by even the most hardcore fans. Particularly, the ''Newborn Cuties'' line is almost universally despised outside of the target audience, mainly because of its childish writing and how the creatures that are supposed to be baby ponies look nothing like their namesake[[note]]The Newborn Cuties range are part of G3.5[[/note]]. Bad enough that G3.5 gathered flak among pony collectors for not looking like ponies, the Newborn Cuties somehow [[ExaggeratedTrope managed to take it several notches higher]] into CartoonCreature. |
| 286 | * ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' got an awful lot of flack from bronies before it even came out, simply because it's a HighSchoolAU When it came out, it created the BrokenBase of the millennium over if it was good or not. It also got flack from parents because what used to be an innocent property for young girls was being changed into a hip, sexier line of teenage dolls, not unlike what happened years earlier with ''WesternAnimation/DorasExplorerGirls''. |
| 287 | * When the first teaser for ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTheMovie2017 My Little Pony: The Movie]]'' was released on Movie Clips, there was a 50/50 split down the middle in terms of likes and dislikes. A quick glance into the comment section reveals an overwhelming sense of apathy. |
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| 290 | [[folder:Nickelodeon]] |
| 291 | * ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' has its fans, but it gets a lot of flack from older fans of ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' for its similarities to many of the {{Kid Com}}s Nickelodeon was producing at the time, changes to the characters' personalities, and/or simply being a bland SliceOfLife series. |
| 292 | * ''Series/BellaAndTheBulldogs'' gets enough sexist and racist male hate for making a girl part of the football team...but the hatedom grew after it was discovered that one of the writers had also written and directed an adult movie about an interracial affair. |
| 293 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}'' received attacks from older Nickelodeon and Nicktoons fans for its very premise, use of {{dubstep}}, large amounts of ToiletHumour, and (deliberately videogame-styled) LimitedAnimation, ''all before the show even aired.'' Once it did air it got a lot worse, though it did develop a small PeripheryDemographic who utterly adore the series and will fiercely defend it. |
| 294 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheBrothersFlub'' falls into this due to its horrendous theme song, slow-pacing, stale and random humor, bland and plotless writing, ugly-looking characters, and especially the titular brothers', Guapo and Fraz, [[SiblingRivalry constant arguing]]. Didn't help that it premiered on the same time as ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants''. Those reasons might have something to do with the show being [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes so dang obscure]]. |
| 295 | * ''WesternAnimation/CatDog'' is a very much polarising show. It has plenty of adult fans and is still pretty well-regarded, but some people dislike its SadistShow nature and it has gotten [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks negative comparisons]] to ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow''. |
| 296 | * Back when it first aired, ''WesternAnimation/ChalkZone'' was often disliked for being too fluffy in comparison to edgier Nicktoons. There were also many fans of ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' who hated the show because they thought it was responsible for getting ''Zim'' ScrewedByTheNetwork (despite the fact that ''[=ChalkZone=]'' was treated just as badly if not worse). Nowadays, it's VindicatedByHistory and sports a decent-sized PeripheryDemographic with those who grew up with the series. |
| 297 | * ''WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer'': Particularly to those who hate being treated like they have [[ViewersAreGoldfish the memory of a goldfish]]. [[note]] There's some {{truth|in television}} to it though; research carried out by Scholastic in the '80s concluded that viewers learn better through participation than through rote repetition, and some schools of thought do feel that repeating something so often is akin to underestimating and thus looking down on a toddler's intelligence level. Sports players will probably tell you that repetition is the mother of all skill, but that's different.[[/note]] |
| 298 | ** Dora hate is played with in ''ComicStrip/ShermansLagoon''; the titular shark, a middle-aged male, loves the show because [[WhoWouldBeStupidEnough he's just that stupid]]. |
| 299 | ** ''Series/SaturdayNightLive''[='s=] [[https://vimeo.com/9063231 parody]]. |
| 300 | ** The Stringini Bros. have a song entitled "Dora No More" which describes Dora being mauled in various ways. |
| 301 | ** Dora is a ''frequent'' parody target amongst [=GoAnimate=], along with ''WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}}''. |
| 302 | ** The ''WesternAnimation/DorasExplorerGirls'' line got hate from parents '''before it even came out''' because they worried that the series would be turned into [[FollowTheLeader a clone of]] ''Toys/{{Bratz}}'', with the belief that aging her up would taint the brand's image. |
| 303 | * ''WesternAnimation/BluesClues'', another pioneer of participation-based {{Edutainment}}, may get some of this, although '''WAY''' less than Dora because of teens and adults' liking of human narrator Steve's dorky charm and for the show having a lot of great NostalgiaFilter. There are more people who love the show than those who dislike it, though the episodes where [[ReplacementScrappy Joe]] took the wheel are generally seen as inferior. |
| 304 | * Nick Jr.'s new CashCowFranchise, ''WesternAnimation/PAWPatrol'', while being mostly loved by adults and parents, is a popular target of the PreschoolShow hatedom (which mostly consists of teenagers trying to look cool and bored adults), if mainly for being very popular with very young children and thus being seen as "annoying". There are also parents who hate it because of the gender roles in the show, mainly having Skye being the sole female character of the titular group until the arrival of Everest. Said parents also aren't big fans of just how MerchandiseDriven it is, and how expensive several of the toys can get. [[note]] And the less talked about how much Chase is hated by the [[CopHater ACAB movement]], the better.[[/note]] That being said, [[WesternAnimation/PawPatrolTheMovie the movie]] has received quite a few fans for the amped up scale, character development, and its brief moment of SelfDeprecation. |
| 305 | * ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum'' developed this during its heyday in the late 2000s and early 2010s. If you checked out a thread asking for opinions on the official Nickelodeon message boards for this show during that time, they'll range from "it's good" to "very mediocre". Website/IMDb and the TV.com website, on the other hand, provides us with much more scathing reviews from its largely adult userbase. Anything that's not an actual episode of the show, but, for example, the intro or some fan videos on [=YouTube=] will be ''flooded'' with hate comments from fans of older Nickelodeon shows and Nicktoons. It has its fans, though, and its haters still generally agree that there's been worse on Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} since it ended. By 2020, the show had been VindicatedByHistory due to its unique artstyle, highly exaggerated animation (as opposed to the rather sterile look most televised [[AllCGICartoon CG cartoons]] go for), and the success of the creator’s second series ''WesternAnimation/GlitchTechs''. |
| 306 | * ''Series/TheFairlyOddParentsFairlyOdder'' gets this from fans of ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', due to turning a beloved Nicktoon into a generic live-action KidCom. Criticisms of the show include [[OutofFocus Cosmo and Wanda getting less screentime than the live-action characters]], a lot of [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece topical pop culture references]], [[SpecialEffectFailure poor usage of special effects]], [[LimitedAnimation the stilted animation for animated characters]], especially during "Fairies Away, Pt 2", which also featured Mr. Crocker facing forward. |
| 307 | * While still having a good-sized PeripheryDemographic, ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' has gotten some hate from fans of ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' who think that it caused the latter show to get cancelled. There are also some who dislike the show due to the behavior of its fanbase, its predictable writing, and its reliance on ToiletHumour; or think that the main cast are [[ClicheStorm walking clichés]], or that some episodes get too mean-spirited toward its protagonist, Lincoln Loud[[note]] Though some claim that Lincoln himself is pretty hard to feel bad for, and that ''at best'' he has [[VanillaProtagonist no personality to speak of]][[/note]]. It doesn't help that the allegations regarding the show's [[Creator/ChrisSavino creator]] pretty much soiled the show's reputation. |
| 308 | * ''Series/MarvinMarvin'', partly due to its [[ExaggeratedTrope Up to Eleven]] ToiletHumour, for being very unoriginal, and for being another [[WebVideo/{{Fred}} Lucas Cruikshank]] vehicle. The huge backlash eventually led to it being canceled after one season as part of the network's continual executive foot-shooting to keep up with Disney. You could've practically heard the massive sigh of relief from the Hatedom when it was announced that this was Lucas Cruikshank's last project for Nickelodeon. |
| 309 | * ''Literature/MaxAndRuby'' gets this from the usual Periphery Hatedom for preschool cartoons, who enjoy bashing the show to be annoying and "mean-spirited". It even [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry6xejgRlF4 appeared on]] ''WebVideo/TheAngryGrandpa''. |
| 310 | * ''WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'' and ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaLegendsOfAwesomeness'' TV series are hated by some fans of the [[Franchise/{{Madagascar}} series of movies]] [[Franchise/KungFuPanda they originated from]], though the former ''does'' have a considerable fandom as well. |
| 311 | * ''Series/NickNewsWithLindaEllerbee'', a news show aimed at elementary through high school aged kids, gets a considerable amount of hate from people who consider it boring. Nevertheless it [[LongRunners lasted over twenty years]]. |
| 312 | * Of Nickelodeon shows, 2013's ''Series/NickStudio10'' received an irrational hatedom because of its un-traditional interruptions of programming (right in the middle of episodes with random videos that had no rhyme or reason, although the block was mainly made up of the usual ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' marathons the network has [[AdoredByTheNetwork been addicted to]], so unless you're completely new to the show, you knew what was happening anyways), stunts and skits which wasted food, ToiletHumour, and some rather overheated accusations of animal abuse, though the actual audience either enjoyed it or rolled their eyes and waited them out because they were there to watch a show, not the continuity between. It may have developed into a sane block eventually, but a hacking of the show's Twitter account with racist content, social media harassment of the cast, [=YouTube=] videos criticizing it made by viewers well out of their demographic (The Archfiend was the most infamous hater of the block and was in his '''thirties'''), and the show's Facebook moderator just giving up made it too onerous for Nickelodeon to continue it. Although a Labor Day 'best-of' episode promised the return of the block, the block never returned and the cast moved onto projects outside the network. As of 2016, Nick has not launched any other live hosted blocks, likely scared off completely by the ''Studio 10'' experience. |
| 313 | * [=NickMom=] started out as a new block on the Nick Jr. channel in 2012 centered on mom-focused humor and such to give them a respite after having to tolerate their toddler's continuous ''WesternAnimation/PeppaPig'' obsession. To social media critics who don't understand that a new network's first schedule will never become permanent, it was like ''Franklin'', ''Dora'', and ''Blue's Clues'' were taken out back and shot, replaced by inappropriate mom-focused humor despite multiple content warnings. Adding to the hatedom were several minor controversies, such as having an insensitive blog post about those affected by Hurricane Sandy, using photos of children without permission on their blog, and airing a skit titled "Bake Sale" which caused outrage among parents who felt the skit was mocking children with food allergies, successfully managing to get it pulled from both the block and its website (you can watch it [[http://vimeo.com/37078192 here]] and judge for yourself.) The ratings (low as they were), however, eventually sorted things out; the funny stuff and movie reruns worked, the vulgar stuff didn't, and by 2014 [=NickMom=] became more benign (with only the occasional sex joke or edited R-rated romance movie here and there), with Disney Junior, Sprout, and Netflix easily happy to take the homes that don't want to watch [=NickMom=]. Eventually, though, those who were still dissatisfied with the block won; the block was discontinued to the relief of its (by then mostly faded) hatedom on September 28, 2015 (and by then if you wanted to take down 90's romance films and ''Series/{{Parenthood}}'' reruns, you just looked petty), with regular Nick Jr. programs taking its place. |
| 314 | * ''WesternAnimation/PlanetSheen'' gets attacks from people who grew up with ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius'' for {{Flanderiz|ation}}ing Sheen from a relatively normal [[TheDitz Ditz]] to a TooDumbToLive one, removing his obsession with Ultra Lord (after "Cutting the Ultra Cord"), and having none of the other Jimmy Neutron characters appear (aside from Carl in the episode that introduces [[IdenticalStranger Doppy']]s character), having {{exp|y}}ies of them instead. |
| 315 | * ''WesternAnimation/RabbidsInvasion'', for supposedly being nothing but the Rabbids doing something and saying "BWAAA!" all the time. It's actually [[HateDumb more than that]]; the Rabbids go into random places discovering new things, and they do say "BWAAA!", but not too much. For the most part, it's SoOkayItsAverage, but it's been compared to ''Teletubbies''. It's also hated by haters of the ''Raving Rabbids'' games since [[SpotlightStealingSquad the Rabbids managed to get a TV series over]] VideoGame/{{Rayman}} himself (though ''Rayman'' [[WesternAnimation/RaymanTheAnimatedSeries actually did have a cartoon that was only four episodes long]]). |
| 316 | * While ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' has a pretty big following, back in the 90s it was the scourge of many parents for having [[DemographicallyInappropriateHumour inappropriate humor that doesn't really belong in a children's cartoon]] and/or being [[GrossoutShow too gross]]. |
| 317 | * The Canadian import ''WesternAnimation/RocketMonkeys'' gets a lot of hate from adult Nickelodeon fans for its excessive [[GrossoutShow grossout humour]], unappealing visuals and animation, and having one of the worst cases of DesignatedHero in WesternAnimation (to the point where it's thoroughly lampshaded in the theme song). This, along with being ScrewedByTheNetwork, contributed to the show initially lasting only a single season in the United States on Nick, but the series did well enough with viewers in Canada that it carried on for an additional 2 seasons that ''did'' eventually air on Creator/KidsClick. |
| 318 | * ''WesternAnimation/RocketPower'' is known to get some hate from people who don't have fond memories watching it for its [[UnintentionalPeriodPiece dated and]] TotallyRadical nature. The art style that comes with being a Klasky-Csupo cartoon and the fact that the protagonist, Otto Rocket, is an obnoxious {{Jerkass}} whether [[UnsportsmanlikeGLoating he wins]] [[SoreLoser or loses]] don't help much. |
| 319 | * Initially, ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'' was accused by many people (typically older Nicktoon fans and the general PeripheryDemographic of kid-oriented Western Animation) for being a rip-off of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' and ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'' and upon premiering was berated for having too much toilet humor. (The first episode was notably about a ''butt transplant'') Even before it premiered, it was hated for ''actually interrupting shows'' ala the aforementioned ''Nick Studio 10'' to show promos for it. However, the show eventually [[GrowingTheBeard grew the beard]] and gradually gained a noticeable PeripheryDemographic over time. People were even disappointed when it was cancelled. Many of the first season's episodes [[VindicatedByHistory are now mostly seen as]] SoOkayItsAverage. (Though some episodes, particularly the infamous and nonsensical "Fart Baby" episode are still widely disliked.) It still has a number of detractors, though, so it's not completely an aversion to this trope. |
| 320 | * ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': |
| 321 | ** As popular as it is, it seems that the show (Mostly seasons 4-9, seasons 1-3 are [[SacredCow well received]]) is here among older fans of Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}, and those who only liked the first three seasons, who are just sick of the show and wish it would be ''cancelled'' to make room for many other better Nicktoons, and/or the first three seasons. Then there's the hatedom coming from FandomRivalry. Fans of ''WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}}'' are well-aware that the ExecutiveMeddling that brought the sponge to popularity is also the crushing blow to their beloved show, and thus react accordingly with HypeBacklash. Though Seasons 6 and 7 get the most of it. While the show has managed to WinBackTheCrowd over time, due to [[AuthorsSavingThrow creator Stephen Hillenburg coming back]] (though it wouldn't last due to [[DiedDuringProduction Stephen's death a few years later]] and the show's universe expanding by ordering spin-offs at the wrong time) and [[CharacterRerailment the characters getting their old characterizations back]], there are still those who feel that it has overstayed its welcome and has outlasted "better" Nicktoons. |
| 322 | ** A large number of people, mainly people who do not have children of their own, despise the show because they find the show's opening theme off-putting. The hatred for the theme song is so immense, that [[https://imdb.com/poll/MINg0eeE5Gs/results it is ranked third place]] in an IMDB user poll about songs from movies and TV that people despise, only beaten by "I Love You" from ''Barney and Friends'' and "My Heart Will Go On" from ''[[Film/Titanic1997 Titanic]]'', with 152 votes being cast against it. |
| 323 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Wayside}}'' gets this from older fans of the original ''Literature/WaysideSchool'' books heavily for {{Bowdleris|e}}ing the source material (to the point of nearly being InNameOnly) and making Todd a massive ButtMonkey. It certainly didn't help that it aired around the same time as ''WesternAnimation/{{El Tigre|TheAdventuresOfMannyRivera}}'', which despite having the same amount of episodes as ''Wayside'', it was more positively received and still airs reruns on Creator/{{Nicktoons}} every now and then, while ''Wayside'' became an OldShame for Nick. |
| 324 | [[/folder]] |
| 325 | |
| 326 | [[folder:Podcasts]] |
| 327 | * ''Podcast/EscapeFromVaultDisney'': |
| 328 | ** Acknowledged and ultimately {{downplayed|trope}} with their episode on ''[[Series/HighSchoolMusicalTheMusicalTheSeries High School Musical: The Musical: The Holiday Special]]'', with Tony saying that the special is immune to any of their criticism because it is tailor-made for people who enjoy the series it's based on. |
| 329 | ** {{Discussed|Trope}} in their episode about ''WesternAnimation/FancyNancy: Fancy It Yourself'': Their general opinion is while they personally dislike it, it’s not bad and the target demographics of [[GirlyGirl femme girls]] and [[RealMenWearPink little boys]] would enjoy it. |
| 330 | [[/folder]] |
| 331 | |
| 332 | [[folder:Professional Wrestling]] |
| 333 | * Professional wrestling in general gets this from those that understand that it's [[{{Kayfabe}} choreographed]], but not [[AcceptableBreaksFromReality why this is the case]]. The hatedom is significant enough that the entire UsefulNotes page for UsefulNotes/ProfessionalWrestling is dedicated to addressing and debunking the myths that come from it. |
| 334 | ** An offshoot of this is non-fans believing that fans ''don't know it's a work'' and are therefore stupid, leading people to hate wrestling because they think it can only be enjoyed by people with low intelligence. This is obviously not the case; kayfabe has been completely dead for nearly 30 years and the overwhelming majority of today's wrestling fans are {{Smart Mark}}s. Even when kayfabe was still alive everyone (outside of very young children and a handful of adults) knew what was going on, [[OpenSecret it's just that no one said it out loud]]. |
| 335 | * Old school WWE fans (and many Wrestling/AttitudeEra fans) seem to particularly loathe the character of Wrestling/{{Hornswoggle}}, whose matches border on slapstick comedy and seem to exist for the sole reason of attracting the attention of small children. Wrestling/TheGreatKhali is a similar example. |
| 336 | * Characters regarded as overbooked supermen, primary and most controversial example being Wrestling/JohnCena. Wrestling/RandyOrton and Wrestling/{{Sheamus}} are examples as well. |
| 337 | * Many male fans find the Divas' matches boring. Well, unless you're at the event, you don't have to watch them -- and even if you are, you could just go to the bathroom or get a hot dog[[note]]Until 2016 (see below) this was the ''whole purpose'' of these matches, they basically replaced the intermission. Well, that and Main/{{Fanservice}}[[/note]]. The arguments tend to stem from: the matches are too badly fought to entertain "purists", and the girls aren't slutty enough to drag in the "letches", so they usually end up in the "meh" zone. |
| 338 | * Purists resent the fact the WWE has no real interest in making a legitimate female division, and find the current iteration of the Diva division to be reeking of UnfortunateImplications. That and the fact they insist on hiring models instead of athletes. [[Wrestling/TotalNonstopActionWrestling TNA]] has started to get the same complaints as well. There are also disenfranchised Diva fans who remember its short Golden Age in the early 2000s, when the Divas started to get serious about wrestling, starting with Wrestling/{{Lita}} and Wrestling/TrishStratus. Of course this is no longer an issue since WWE actually created a legitimate women's division back in 2016 (two, if you count Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} as a separate promotion), there's now nearly as many female wrestlers employed by WWE as there are male ones and female wrestlers have main evented pay-per-views, including ''Wrestling/WrestleMania 35''. |
| 339 | * A different set of purists who will hold a former model's past career against her even if she becomes a good wrestler. Others will get this even when they've never done modelling before. Wrestling/TrishStratus herself experienced this early on and had to start taking chair shots to shake off the haters. Wrestling/KellyKelly is an example as many people will read her name in a match and automatically label it as bad without even bothering to watch it. A lot of this might be due to the perception that the female championship has been cheapened since 2007 by putting it on a revolving door of Divas instead of having mainstays like it once did. There's also the argument that certain Divas get much more attention than they deserve, at the expense of Divas who are at least as good. Take Wrestling/TorrieWilson, Wrestling/StacyKeibler, and Wrestling/JackieGayda, for instance. They weren't the best in the ring, but they at least entered WWE with ''some'' wrestling experience. Yet they barely got near the Women's Championship, much less won it, and all too quickly saw their careers slide into irrelevance. Then Kelly Kelly came to WWE with ''no'' wrestling experience and gradually took over the entire division, much like Trish had a few years before. |
| 340 | * Wrestling/EvaMarie is not unpopular with fans of ''Series/TotalDivas'', but still reviled by actual wrestling fans. Eva Marie made it no secret on social media that she was more interested in launching an acting career than learning to wrestle, combined with Wrestling/VinceMcMahon [[CreatorsPet taking a liking to her]] and wanting to push her to the moon before she'd even learned to wrestle made her a HateSink among wrestling fans. WWE tried to fix things by rebranding her as a {{Fanservice}}-heavy character who kept having {{Wardrobe Malfunction}}s, preventing her from actually wrestling, but fans still hated her. |
| 341 | * Then there are those -- StayInTheKitchen types, mostly -- who are annoyed at the fact that women's wrestling exists at all, asserting that the only thing girls should be doing in the ring is holding up the round cards (which hasn't happened since wrestling made pains to distinguish itself from boxing) and deriding female wrestling as "just more modern/revisionist/politically correct crap of the '90s", etc. -- apparently not realizing that [[OlderThanTheyThink there have been female professional wrestlers (1930s) for almost as long as there has been professional wrestling itself (1920s, at least in the form we are familiar with today)]][[note]]While also ignoring the fact that women's sports in general have exploded in popularity over that time (particularly since the passage of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX#Increasing_participation Title IX]] in 1972), including combat sports. A common argument made by proponents of women's wrestling is "If two women can main event a UsefulNotes/{{U|ltimateFightingChampionship}}FC pay-per-view why can't they main event a WWE one?" It's a pretty good argument[[/note]]. The fact that WWE did not heavily promote its women's division until the late 1990s -- and even then mostly for {{Fanservice}} -- may have contributed to this attitude, especially among men who were only casual wrestling fans. |
| 342 | [[/folder]] |
| 343 | |
| 344 | [[folder:Sports]] |
| 345 | * Golf. From those who aren't fans, it's regarded as monotonous, luck-based, aristocratic, unathletic (since some people just drive carts to wherever the ball is instead of walking), and associated with square old rich people in clown pants. Dave Barry joked about the little exertion it involved by breaking down the calories burned into various categories like "sauntering," "squinting," and "saying things like 'You certainly did double bogey that mashie niblick, Ted! Ha ha!'" For ironic points, there are rules strongly restricting the use of carts on the pro-circuit, resulting in most professionals walking the course. These were intended to make golf look more athletic, but it results in slowing down the games that are televised. Tiger Woods rising to become the face of the sport has done little to chip away its image as a form of conspicuous consumption for the elite. |
| 346 | * Sailing. It's viewed as a very upper-class activity, due to the cost of owning and maintaining a boat, as well as associating "sailing" with cruise ship vacations, even though the two are nothing alike. |
| 347 | * Equestrian sports. Like sailing, they're generally perceived as elitist and upper class. In the case of actor Creator/ChristopherReeve (who was permanently paralyzed after falling off a horse), the hatred got so intense that some people annoyed by his activism on the part of the handicapped implied that Reeve ''deserved'' to have it happen to him. Animal rights people also complain, even if the horses are borderlined spoiled in how well they're treated, and giving a MercyKill to those who break their legs is justifiable. |
| 348 | * Cricket, especially as it takes day to complete what is called a "test match". In the reverse though, the faster [=20Twenty=] variant that intends to make the game relevant for the Internet generation is cited by traditional cricket fans as the sullying of the sport. |
| 349 | * Motor sports in general. They are perceived as boorish, lower class, anti-intellectual sports which are dangerous, waste fuel, and pollute the environment. |
| 350 | ** Or, depending on who you ask, are perceived as an elitist sport for rich white guys (racing can be very expensive, has had issues with racism, and is predominently male[[note]]In the combined 260+ years of Formula 1, the NASCAR Cup Series, and [=IndyCar=] there's been ''one race'' won by a female driver: the Indy Japan 300 in 2008, by Danica Patrick. Even in 2022 it's rare to see a female even ''entered'' in any kind of major race[[/note]]), much like the examples listed above |
| 351 | * UsefulNotes/{{NASCAR}}, for detracting the athletic element from sports for part of it; and its common association with rednecks for the other. Others simply find it boring, since at bottom it's just a cluster of fancy cars driving around and around for hours -- really not much more than what you'll see on a particularly busy freeway system. |
| 352 | * Cardio kickboxing is one of the biggest crazes among fitness aficionados and shows no sign of dying down, but it continues to get a lot of hate from formal practitioners of martial arts for diluting the practice. While many pioneers of the craze, such as Billy Blanks and Chalene Johnson, ''are'' in fact, legitimate martial artists, the fact that people started becoming instructors with no formal background means they risk teaching bad form to students that not only distracts them from effective fighting techniques should they ever need to defend themselves, but actually runs the risk of students ''hurting'' themselves doing the moves as exercise. |
| 353 | * ''Competitive'' kickboxing has gotten hatred from some MoralGuardians. The most common accusations is that it has stripped martial arts of their [[MartialPacifist once-typical hallmark of restraint and peaceful ideals]], and turned the whole ordeal into a spectator sport dedicated to feeding the audience's love for violence. [=John McCain=] called it "human cockfighting." (He actually said that about what we now call UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts, but to many people they're one in the same.) However, again, the opposition has done little to dampen the enthusiasm of its fans. |
| 354 | * Sumo wrestling; usually because it epitomizes ManlyGay to some people, and to others because it inspires a lot of "fat-men-in-diapers" jokes. If you see any depiction of this sport outside Japan, it is likely to be parodic in nature. |
| 355 | * Cheerleading, due to the amount of [[CruelCheerleader negative stereotypes associated with cheerleaders]] and because it is a stereotypically female sport (a criticism often raised by [[StrawFeminist feminists]], ironically enough). Many will even deny that it ''is'' a sport, when in fact it requires mastery of a great many physical challenges and is actually more dangerous than most of the "jockier" sports. |
| 356 | * The NBA attracts its fair share of hatedom from "purists" or old school fans who feel the league has been over-commercialized and is focused too much on its big name stars, people who think its gameplay is too one-dimensional (in the early 2000s the complaints were low scoring and over-emphasis on defense, now it's lack of defense and over-reliance on three-pointers), hockey fans who view basketball as the SpotlightStealingSquad of winter season sports, and racists who find the NBA to be a convenient way to side-vent their prejudices (if the person uses the word "thug" or any variation in describing why they don't like the NBA, they usually fall under the last category). |
| 357 | * UsefulNotes/IceHockey, which is perceived as violent, dangerous and lionizing negative masculine stereotypes. [[CanadianEqualsHockeyFan The sport's popularity in Canada]] is also an automatic laugh line for more nationalistic types. It doesn't help that it's a winter sport popular in the coldest parts of North America. |
| 358 | * UsefulNotes/AmericanFootball has this much more strongly than ice hockey; although the rules of American football do forbid fighting more strongly than ice hockey (in football, brawling causes an automatic ejection; in ice hockey, the punishment is five minutes in the penalty box), in football, the violence is baked right into the way the game is played. Tackling, blocking, and hitting the opponent with one's body, often at fairly high speed, is an essential part of playing football. Moreover, one of the best "weapons" a football player has is none other than his own helmeted head--which has led to a massive problem with concussions and sub-concussion brain damage that causes lasting neurological problems[[note]]To their credit, American football leagues at all levels have recognized this (though the NFL had to be dragged kicking and screaming) and have taken a hard line against it. Today leading with your head on hits (usually referred to as "targeting" in college football, the NCAA takes this ''very'' seriously) or doing anything that can be construed as using your helmeted head as a weapon will usually result in an automatic ejection and likely suspension[[/note]]. Detractors, particularly fans of UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball, point out that the only way players use their feet in the game is in kicking or running, and the ball also doesn't look much like a ball. This often goes hand-in-hand with [[{{Hatedom}} negative perceptions]] of [[{{Eagleland}} American culture]]. While not stereotyped as violent the way FootballHooligans are, there's still a perception that fans are {{Lower Class Lout}}s. Nerdier types will snark about "sportsball" or "handegg." Many of these stereotypes seem to be held by people who aren't aware that football has moved beyond "three yards and a cloud of dust" and is much more based on complex strategy and physical finesse these days. Also, as a league where roughly 70% of the players are black the NFL is subject to the same racist dogwhistles mentioned above in the NBA entry. |
| 359 | * UsefulNotes/CollegiateAmericanFootball (and college sports in general) gets knocked for having nothing to do with the mission of a school and wasting money that could be used for education (which are valid criticisms, but also very ignorant of how the functions of higher education in America evolved and the complexities of how institutions spend and acquire money). |
| 360 | * UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball (soccer for Americans), because of a reputation for [[FootballHooligans violent, riot-happy fans]] (despite American football fans also destroying their own cities when they win the Super Bowl) and whiny, injury-faking players. Soccer also gets a lot of hate from fans (or proponents) of other sports in countries where it (soccer) is dominant, this ironically mirrors the attitude many US soccer fans have towards the "big four" (baseball, basketball, hockey, and American football). However, [[JerkassHasAPoint it does]] take away (usually limited) media attention and, more crucially, television money from other sports, such as handball. |
| 361 | * Curling is the pun of numerous jokes from those who don't understand how it works or why it's a sport. This is especially common during the Olympics. |
| 362 | * UsefulNotes/MajorLeagueBaseball, as with Cricket, has a reputation as a "boring" sport beloved of [[GameOfNerds statistics-obsessed nerds]], in contrast to the faster-paced sports of American football and basketball. The latter two are also seen as having a more heterogenous appeal than baseball in terms of fan demographics, which is still seen as an overwhelmingly white and middle class sport despite a visible contingent of MLB players from Latin America and the Caribbean. The sport is also still trying to recover from the steroid scandals of the '00s. |
| 363 | [[/folder]] |
| 364 | |
| 365 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 366 | * ''TabletopGame/CandyLand'' (and similar RollAndMove games) is hated by people older than its target audience for being a mindless LuckBasedMission with zero actual decisions to be made. Some members of the "serious" board-gamer crowd argue that [[NoTrueScotsman it doesn't even deserve to be called a game]]. |
| 367 | * ''TabletopGame/CardsAgainstHumanity'': |
| 368 | ** It's a party game that attracts some hate from the "serious" board-gamer crowd for multiple reasons. Common complaints include its vulgar nature giving a poor impression of the hobby, the game's ability to shut down board game nights (someone drags out ''CAH'', it grabs people's attention, it becomes impossible to play something else, and the ''CAH'' game will probably go on past the point of being fun), low replayability, and feeling that the game doesn't encourage creative play because you're just assembling jokes from pre-made cards, and shocking answers will often beat clever answers. |
| 369 | ** The target audience is people who enjoy edgy humour, and the game is (unsurprisingly) disliked by people who find its content offensive or at least tasteless. |
| 370 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Fluxx}}'' is a light game that gets some hate from "serious" board-gamers who feel that it's too much of a random mess to be fun. |
| 371 | * ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': |
| 372 | ** The ''Universes Beyond'' crossover cards are intended to draw in new players, but also get considerable backlash from established players who feel that it waters down the flavour of ''Magic''. It's argued that the people who hate the crossover cards don't have to buy or play them. They've argued back that they still have to play ''against'' them, which is countered by saying that pretty much everyone has some types of cards they dislike playing against even outside of the crossovers. |
| 373 | ** The target audience for the ''30th Anniversary Edition'', a $999 collection of four boosters containing non-tournament-legal reprints of the game's oldest cards, was most likely well-enfranchised players with extra cash and deep nostalgia. The product is widely despised outside of this group, as most players think it's way too expensive for a nostalgic throwback, and point out that they're charging a grand for cards that aren't even tournament legal. |
| 374 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}'' gets hate from multiple groups outside of its target audience: |
| 375 | ** It's reviled by the {{Eurogame}}r and "serious" board-gamer crowd who view it as a poorly-aged design, too much of a luck-based {{Ameritrash Game|s}}, or both. Worse, hardly anyone actually plays it by the real rules, and most [[PopularGameVariant common house rules]] drag out the game, so even if the players are having fun initially, chances are that they won't by the end of it. That's bad enough, but it's also so ubiquitous that board-gamers (with some justification) fear anyone hearing "board game" is likely to first think "Monopoly" and then "I'd rather have a root canal without anesthetics." There's also some resentment over how ''Monopoly'' is one of the most popular board games ever made when most hobby gamers would rate it somewhere between "terrible" and "mediocre". |
| 376 | ** It has received backlash, both left-wing and right-wing, from people who know the original game was intended as a scathing satire on capitalism (though it was really only accurate to the late-19th century, pre-antitrust Robber Baron era). Right-wingers don't like it for having been a leftist caricature of a market economy and leftists don't like that it's now one of the biggest mass-marketed corporate products ''ever''. The political hatedoms are especially odd because Monopoly was not intended to be a critique of the free market at all (which didn't even exist in its present form when the game was created), but of the old protectionist and consolidationist economic model that is despised by left-wingers and (most) right-wingers alike. |
| 377 | ** Not helping is that Creator/{{Hasbro}} has found it to be a CashCowFranchise and [[{{Cloneopoly}} churns out dozens and dozens of themed]] ''[[{{Cloneopoly}} Monopoly]]'' [[{{Cloneopoly}} games]], including ones based on franchises mentioned here... |
| 378 | * ''[[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Warhammer 40K]]'' and related games used to get this ''a lot'' from fans of the more traditional, historically-based WarGaming, who [[SciFiGhetto disdained gaming based on science-fiction and fantasy elements as debasing the real thing]], as something vulgar and something just "for kids". [[note]]A hard position to sustain, said the snarkers, as it's all about playing with toy soldiers however you slice it. Orks, Space Marines, Napoleon's Grand Armée, it's ''still'' toy soldiers.[[/note]] For a long time, model painting shows and exhibition events barred fantasy and sci-fi as unworthy of consideration, and the big modelling press names such as ''Military Modelling'' refused to touch it. [[note]]Another reason why ''Magazine/WhiteDwarf'' took off the way it did. And ''Military Modelling'', whilst keeping it out of the editorial pages, didn't mind carrying the paying advertising.[[/note]] It's fair to say attitudes have mellowed since, and the big competitions today now allow full representation to the fantasy/scifi community. |
| 379 | [[/folder]] |
| 380 | |
| 381 | [[folder:Toys]] |
| 382 | * The ''Toys/CabbagePatchKids'' dolls were also pitched as a Christmas must-have and particularly reviled by people who were sick of seeing them everywhere. Film director Don Mancini was one of these people. His response? [[Franchise/ChildsPlay Chucky.]] |
| 383 | * Toys/BeanieBabies, although most of the hate was directed at the PeripheryDemographic of housewives who stored them in glass boxes as collectibles, not the little kids who just wanted to play with them as toys. Then again, there were also a lot of parents sick of shelling out so much money for the things. Even the people who ''delivered'' Beanie Babies to retailers (often UPS employees) hated them due to being constantly harassed by collectors asking if they had any of the new releases. A semi-famous {{urban legend|s}} even stated that said delivery people had to wear tags that said "Please Don't Ask If We Have Beanie Babies" just so they wouldn't get harassed. |
| 384 | * ''Toys/PollyPocket'', from the little boys for whom they were never intended. |
| 385 | * The Tickle Me Elmo, a doll of Elmo from ''Series/SesameStreet'' that shook around and giggled when you squeezed it, received truly unhinged levels of hate: |
| 386 | ** People donated to be the driver of a bulldozer that ran one over, and sold thousands of tickets to a front row seats of said event. |
| 387 | ** There's a video of one of the more advanced models being burned to a crisp. While still turned on. It's rather disturbing. |
| 388 | ** ''Series/{{MADtv|1995}}'' did a parody with "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7IxliAPjAk Tickle Me Emo]]". |
| 389 | ** Cory Doctorow's novel ''Makers'' features "Boogie Woogie Elmo", millions of which were destined for landfills. The titular makers use the sophisticated hardware and robotic capabilities in novel ways. |
| 390 | ** Parodied in Season Two of the episodic ''VideoGame/SamAndMaxFreelancePolice'' games with "Torture Me Elmer", a toy which children were encouraged to mistreat. There's a minigame where a vast spill of them has littered the roadways, and you need to clear them off by running them over. There's a certain sadistic hilarity in hearing them beg for mercy. |
| 391 | ** Creator/JhonenVasquez has a Meanwhile comic about "Tickle Me Hellmo", which has 20 levels of response. They include shooting fire ants, calling Satan to stare at the child at night, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking reciting goth poetry]]. |
| 392 | ** It also led to an at-the-time infamous flash cartoon, "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX0B6I5GBAA Elmac on Fire]]". It features a stock parody of Elmo [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin on fire]]. |
| 393 | ** ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' spoofed it in their 4th DirectToVideo film "[[Recap/FuturamaM4IntoTheWildGreenYonder Into the Wild Green Yonder]]" with the Tickle-Me-Bender doll. Professor Farnsworth says they didn't sell well, and when he tickles one, it laughs before getting angry and saying "Quit touching my junk, pervert!". |
| 394 | * ''Franchise/{{LEGO}}'' |
| 395 | ** ''Toys/LegoFriends'' initially received a lot of flack from adult [[{{UsefulNotes/Feminism}} Feminists]], but this died down after the franchise's first year. |
| 396 | ** ''Toys/HeroFactory'' for many ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' fans, mostly since the sets and story don't cater to a PeripheryDemographic in the same way its predecessor did (overlapping with ReplacementScrappy). Bionicle itself has this in the form of thousands of adult fans of LEGO, although it can be a SacredCow in some AFOL circles (especially since those who would have been children when the line started are now adults). |
| 397 | * Franchise/{{Barbie}} suffered from this even before [[Film/Barbie2023 the movie]] (described in the "Live-Action Film" section) made it big: |
| 398 | ** Everyone loves to write all sorts of long essays about how she's "a freak of nature" [[note]] though by that logic, Raggedy Ann, with her naturally red dreadlocks and triangle for a nose, would also qualify [[/note]] and a "walking stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be" ([[FairForItsDay somehow ignoring Barbie appearing in countless white collar or even blue-collar jobs]]), and people often refuse to buy their daughters or relatives Barbie dolls for fear that a doll will somehow instill a negative body image in them. (Like the doll itself is the sole cause in the first place, as lampshaded in ''ComicStrip/BabyBlues''.) Ask around the Internet and you'll probably find a lot of people, even girls ([[EspeciallyZoidberg especially girls]]), who decapitated and mutilated Barbie dolls when they were little. Barbie ''is'' a stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be. Just a different stereotype: specifically, some kind of blonde, tanned, superwoman. |
| 399 | ** If you were a boy and played with a Barbie doll, then you immediately had to transfer schools. Unless, that is, you did stuff like strap her to a model rocket and attempted to launch her into outer space or did all sorts of violent acts to her such as dropping a bowling ball on her or trying to melt her with a magnifying glass. |
| 400 | ** Poor Creator/{{Mattel}}. It seems that no matter what they do with the Franchise/{{Barbie}} franchise, they'll end up getting flak for it. One scheme in giving Barbie a positive light is ''Hello Barbie'', a doll that could do advanced speech recognition and speech synthesis to answer questions posed to her by the owner and connect to Mattel's server (for MoralGuardians filtering) over the Internet via Wi-Fi to get information. The intention here is to show that girls can be smart, allowing a child to look to Barbie for help with homework if no one else who can help is around. It immediately gathered flak for being a ''privacy invader'' (despite Mattel assuring that no personally identifiable information on the owner will be stored on their server, and only certain non-critical information like the owner's name is stored in the doll itself) and white hats immediately started pointing out how the doll can be hacked to say things of their choice, not by hacking the doll itself, ''but by hijacking the ISP's domain name server'' (which will allow them to take over ''any'' Internet connected program, including the humble web browser, and that's assuming they managed to reverse engineer the doll's communications protocol first). Nevermind that Microsoft, Blackberry, Apple and Google have done this with Cortana, Assistant, Siri and Google Assistant respectively with no backlash whatsoever, and that toys like that are pretty common in Japan and had not have any issues in that country. And hobbyists all over the world, including in the US itself, have been hacking up dolls that do just that, ''and those have no filtering whatsoever''. The fact that certain TV shows were hyping up the paranoia wasn't helping. And when they put that same technology into a different toy (a Fisher-Price stuffed bear), ''the first batch of said toy sold out within days of launch''. It seems that the real problem here isn't about privacy or protecting little girls, but ''Barbie can't be smart''. |
| 401 | * The ''Toys/{{Bratz}}'' doll line received lots of complaints. Like Barbie, a lot of them were from people concerned about its target demographic of little girls, and even more so given the Bratz dolls' revealing clothes and thick make-upped expressions. However, there were, once again, a lot of boys (and older or tomboyish girls) who just liked making fun of things little girls liked. |
| 402 | * ''Toys/MonsterHigh'' has this reputation but mainly because of how its popularity has [[FollowTheLeader affected other series]]. Many copycats such as ''DC Super Hero Girls'' and Disney's ''Descendants'' riff off the formula. This leads to scorn from older fans in the respective fanbases, which ends up redirected as ''Monster High''. Some criticisms are more similar to the critique of ''Toys/{{Bratz}}'', however, with many criticising the characters' revealing clothes and thick make-upped expressions, as well as their HollywoodThin designs. |
| 403 | * ''Toys/FunkoPop'' is very popular, but it has an extremely vocal hatedom online. The most common reason is that the franchise's designs of the figures are simpler, their BlackBeadEyes [[AccidentalNightmareFuel look creepy]], and they're cheaper and lower quality than other collectible franchises such as Figma and Nendoroid. |
| 404 | * ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' has gotten this treatment for decades from three different sides. On one side you have a majority of people who prefer realistic equine figures and scoff at the pastel, talking anthropomorphic ponies. This has caused a FandomRivalry with series like ''Breyer''. On the other side you have very few people who hate it for being too cutesy. Then there's those who're in to colorful horses, but have defected and declared hate on G3.5 onwards due to those not looking anything like horses. Incidentally, those who decried G3.5 onwards defected to Dracco's ''Filly'' line, who're now at war with the bronies because some of the latter lashed out at ''WesternAnimation/FillyFuntasia''. |
| 405 | * The ''Toys/{{Poopsie}}'' surprise toys have disgusted many adult toy collectors and MoralGuardians alike for how the GrossOutShow-style ToiletHumour clashes with the cutesy aesthetic. The fact that the slime-pooping/vomiting unicorn/fairy/mermaid characters are portrayed as babies/toddlers wearing [[AgeInappropriateDress disturbingly skimpy outfits and decor inappropriate for their age]][[note]]Such as crop tops, lingerie, piercings, and tattoos.[[/note]] and detailed eyelashes don't really help matters. |
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| 407 | |
| 408 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 409 | * ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' has a pretty substantial one, largely due to the fandom just one day suddenly showing up and invading anime cons in cosplay like an infestation of cockroaches, despite ''Homestuck'' not being an anime [[note]]ignoring how dozens up dozens of non-anime fandoms [[DoubleStandard get zero backlash]][[/note]]. ''Homestuck'' cosplay is outright banned from several smaller anime cons for substantially justifiable reasons[[note]]The grey body paint (not sealed) they wear all over their bodies has caused considerable damage, ruining other cosplayer's costumes just by brushing up against them, and ruining hotel services and materials by sleeping in beds with the makeup on, or using jacuzzis or not taking showers to wash it off. Then there are those who intentionally roleplay as the Troll they're cosplaying as, intentionally being rude and malicious to ''EVERYONE'' regardless of being a congoer, staff member, hotel staff, or even the police. Finally, hygienic issues involving carrying around a "Spit bucket"[[/note]] and is considered the primary reason cosplay was banned at TCAF, a dedicated webcomic con. Otherwise, it's sometimes seen as a LoveToHate series often used as a punchline for a crazy fandom. It doesn't help anyone's case that the creator of the series himself won't allow for a dedicated Homestuck convention to exist. |
| 410 | * ''Webcomic/ILoveYoo'': Due to the fact that it is a drama stemming from a {{subverted|Trope}} love-triangle, I Love Yoo drew in a large audience of romance readers who were disappointed when the comic was less romantic than anticipated. |
| 411 | * ''Webcomic/NattyComics'' is about a woman dealing with everyday sexism... through cartoonishly-exaggerated DisproportionateRetribution. Catcalls, insults, {{Double Standard}}s; etc. are met with violence from Natty and company, ranging from a GroinAttack to LudicrousGibs; those on the receiving end of these attacks [[HeelRealization will always proclaim that Natty and company are in the right and that they deserved what happened to them]], [[HeelFaceDoorSlam provide they're even still alive]]. Needless to say, those that aren't left-leaning on feminist issues (and many who are) are horrified by the premise, and [[PoesLaw question whether or not this is meant to be a satire on]] {{Straw Feminist}}s ([[https://imgur.com/a/fxmeH it's not]]). The Periphery Hatedom for this comic manifests in [[InNameOnly "fan"]] edits, which either imply that Natty is similar to far-right hate groups by re-interpreting her as one of them, or depict her [[DeconstructionFic facing the consequences of her actions]]. |
| 412 | * ''WebComic/VeganArtbook'' has a massive hatedom among non-vegans for being extremely {{Anvilicious}}, treating violence against meat-eaters as a ''good'' thing, having a cast filled with {{Designated Hero}}es, and [[DearNegativeReader frequently bashing its critics]]. It doesn't help that it began condemning non-extreme vegans (who hate the strip just as much) as well. |
| 413 | [[/folder]] |
| 414 | |
| 415 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 416 | * WebAnimation/AlphabetLore, though very popular among its target audience, gets a lot of flak from those older for its childish premise, {{Flat Character}}s and overly dark, yet [[ResetButtonEnding anticlimaclic]] plot. Another reason for its large hatedom is the large amount of memes that have flooded the internet in a similar vein to the MascotHorror example above, to the point where many have gotten sick of it and deemed it a soulless cashgrab intentionally meant to appease the internet. |
| 417 | * WebAnimation/SkibidiToiletSeries similarly gets a ton of hate from older audiences for its extreme randomness and large amount of appearances on [[YoutubeKidsChannel YouTube Kids Channels]], as well as being one of the first cultural touchstones of the "Ipad Kid" generation who are stereotyped as having been constantly exposed to overstimulation since birth, leading to vitrolic accusations that ''Skibidi Toilet'' is the equivalent of setting a toddler in front of a screen playing disconnected loud noises and colors to keep them mindlessly entertained. It's ''also'' disliked by ''VideoGame/HalfLife'' fans for making Generation Alpha kids think that a game from twenty years before ''Skibidi Toilet'' somehow ripped it off (even though the most prominent "example" of this was [[PoesLaw an obvious bait post made by a troll]]). |
| 418 | [[/folder]] |
| 419 | |
| 420 | [[folder:Web Originals]] |
| 421 | %% Please make a more neutral entry here --> * LetsPlay/PewDiePie |
| 422 | * WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation / Creator/BenCroshaw: has a considerable hatedom from Nintendo fans - who hate his famous dislike of Mario and other classical Nintendo properties - anime and JRPG fans - who hate his similarly famous dislike for both genres - and just generally fans of popular games and genres that Yahtzee bashed at some point. |
| 423 | * When ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' announced the ''[[WebAnimation/RedVsBlue Meta vs. Carolina]]'' episode, a massive portion of the Death Battle fandom immediately took a disliking to the idea of this episode happening. The reasons for this backlash are that they're pitting 2 characters from the same series against each other (and not even in an ironic sense like [[Recap/DeathBattleS01E04GoombaVsKoopa Goomba vs. Koopa]]); Red Vs. Blue is nowhere near as popular as every other series of the characters that they've showcased[[note]]Technically ''Red vs. Blue'' is the granddaddy of all {{Machinima}}-based media, the most well-known Creator/RoosterTeeth brand after ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', and was even recognized by Creator/{{Bungie}} themselves, so this could be a case of not doing the research[[/note]]; the episode is going to take [[TrailerDelay 4 weeks]] to come out; hardly anyone in the DB fandom at large cares about Red vs. Blue; it's being given the 3D treatment when much more popular characters are only given 2D fights (in episodes that are well-hated by the fandom in-general)[[note]]Despite the fact that Red vs. Blue was always in 3D and thus would only make sense to make in 3D since the models are already available in the animation usually used in Death Battle 3D fights[[/note]]; and by how [[http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=30054&start=180 Ben]] responded to all of this[[note]] which can be interpreted as him saying that this episode exists solely to appeal to the Red vs. Blue fanbase[[/note]], it wouldn't be surprising if some accuse this episode of being yet another attempt to appease to [[CreatorsPet Rooster Teeth]] (which they're accused of doing [[Recap/DeathBattleS02E18BobaFettVsSamusAran twice]] [[Recap/DeathBattleS02E29YangXiaoLongVsTifaLockhart already]], so they were in hot water to begin with). Some fans thought they were just being irrational haters, and when the actual episode came out [[WinBackTheCrowd some of them changed their tune at the unique spin the episode took]] (due to being an in-universe {{Crossover}} with Red vs. Blue) and the [[WinBackTheCrowd gorgeous animation that resulted]]. The haters and fans still went at it in the comments. |
| 424 | ** As this show is responsible for perpetuating certain [[FandomRivalry Fandom Rivalries]], another part of the Hate comes from [[FriendlyFandoms those who are not willing to buckle to a single web comic]] which they describe [[PassThePopcorn "only serves to create tension"]], though only in certain cases. |
| 425 | * ''WebVideo/TheMysteriousMrEnter'' and [[https://www.youtube.com/user/Vailskibum94 Vailskibum94]] get a lot of hate from many cartoon fans, not because they are critical of cartoons, but because many of the cartoons they complain about [[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars are seen as easy targets]]. |
| 426 | * ''WebVideo/RyanToysReview'', one of the most prominent kid's Platform/YouTube channels, is outright hated by anyone who isn't below the age of six, because of the CrackIsCheaper nature, poor to mediocre editing, occasional (and sometimes unintentional) usage of clickbait, most of the characters' (most notably Ryan's parents and Combo Panda) annoying behaviors, and the seeming lack of value other than to stimulate children. Its CashCowFranchise status and the fact he has his own '''Creator/NickJr''' show doesn't help. |
| 427 | * {{YouTube Kids Channel}}s were never intended to be anything more than simple distractions for young children, and are successful at this goal, but are hated by people who are too old to have any business caring about such content, either due to having to hear younger siblings watch these videos all day, the site introducing new rules to make things safer for the influx of young users (some of which might affect even non-kids channels), worries about some of these videos containing [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids inappropriate content]] (either due to ValuesDissonance or creators being actually malicious), all the way to conspiracy theories alleging that some of the videos are made by child predators to either show off or attract victims. |
| 428 | * Creator/EpicGames Store is getting a lot of flak from PC gamers for "bribing game studios into releasing timed exclusives" on the store as well as for lacking features on the store, even if they're giving away games for free. No one is really sure what is going on here, as the haters claim they hate Epic for making games exclusive to the EGS, but on the other hand they're fine with Steam, EA and Activision-Blizzard pulling off the same schtick. |
| 429 | * ''WebAnimation/BecomeJehovahsFriend'', a religious children's series, is despised by non-Jehovah's Witnesses, who frequently criticize it for having bad lessons and presenting the religion as very cult-like. |
| 430 | * Mexican production company WebVideo/{{Badabun}} got a hatedom in English-speaking speedrunning communities after WebVideo/KarlJobst exposed their "Passing VideoGame/SuperMarioBros1 in five minutes" video as a shoddy fake that stole footage from runners who actually put in the time. |
| 431 | * ''WebAnimation/{{Cocomelon}}'' is loathed by many parents for its repetitive nature and addictive quality it has on toddlers. |
| 432 | * ''Blippi'' is often hated by those outside the target demographic because it's overly positive with no negative aspects to be found, the fact that Blippi has an annoying voice and acts childish for someone his age, and the fact that the show sometimes contains factual errors such as misspelled words and shapes not being identified correctly. |
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