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| 10 | ->''fantasy characters: "Geez"\ |
| 11 | me: "who the fuck spread christianity there"'' |
| 12 | -->-- ''Website/{{Tumblr}}'', [[https://lemon-embalmer.tumblr.com/post/186653853372/fantasy-characters-geez-me-who-the-fuck-spread lemon-embalmer]] |
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| 14 | The inverse of HoldYourHippogriffs and OhMyGods, it's when someone uses an expression or terminology that breaks from the established setting, time period or world building, due to SpeculativeFiction history being at odds with the origin of the etymology itself, making it an instance of InexplicableCulturalTies. "UsefulNotes/{{Je|sus}}ez" or variants are the most commonly seen words which invoke this trope. Another form of this trope happens in HistoricalFiction and the like, with words and phrases that aren't supposed to have come into use yet. This is most often when a PeriodPiece uses words which are NewerThanTheyThink, when people in the year 700 BC [[TemporalParadox refer to the present time as "700 BC"]] or a fantasy setting using a sports term like "curveball." |
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| 16 | When played straight, this is often an aspect of the TranslationConvention, in that the phrase is uttered for the viewer's benefit, rather than the characters'. Ways to [[DefiedTrope defy this trope]] include HoldYourHippogriffs, CallARabbitASmeerp, OhMyGods, or YouMeanXmas. In actual translations, this may be the result of a {{Woolseyism}}, as cultural references may not transfer properly. |
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| 18 | Depending on how deeply and pedantically you're willing to go, this is pretty much unavoidable whenever you're using modern-human language in a time or setting that isn't modern Earth -- every word is ultimately rooted in real-life etymology. Some examples are much more obvious than others, but making a precise distinction between terms too rooted in real history and culture to include in a fictional world and ones generic enough to allow is both difficult and highly subjective. The only way to completely avoid this conundrum is to write your story entirely in a ConLang -- but that's obviously a little less than practical. This is sometimes justified by TranslationConvention, especially when DirectLineToTheAuthor applies, and by explaining that the odder euphemisms actually represent something more locally appropriate in-universe, which is translated into an equivalent saying to represent the spirit of what was said. |
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| 20 | In the same vein, any use of given names on the Bob side of the AerithAndBob scale inevitably runs into orphaned etymologies when used in a fantasy setting. This is because they only became common in the first place due to specific real-world cultural phenomena on Earth, which might not be replicable in the fantasy setting. For example, many common names in the western world originated in or were spread by UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}; leave out Christianity from your setting, and all these names end up orphaned. |
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| 22 | In written works, this trope only applies to characters' dialogue, or when the work is written as a character reflecting on the events. As the author is from Earth, they can use the words the characters cannot. |
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| 24 | Another variant of this trope is used [[PlayedForLaughs for humor]], such as yelling out "Jesus Christ!" in front of the real Jesus, who [[AnswersToTheNameOfGod will usually assume that he is being addressed]]. |
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| 26 | DenialOfAnimality can overlap when an animal calls itself a "man", "woman", or "human". |
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| 28 | !!Examples: |
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| 30 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 31 | |
| 32 | [[folder:Anime and Manga]] |
| 33 | * The first episode of ''Anime/AkameGaKill'' has someone being called a Good Samaritan. Samaritans are a real life ethnic group, on whom the parable is based. It's pretty unlikely that there were any Samaritans in the world of ''Akame ga Kill!''. |
| 34 | * Several characters' names in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' were made popular in the real world by Biblical figures, such as Pastor Nick (Nicholas) and Thomas Wagner. Doubly so in the case of '''Chris'''ta Lenz, whose name implies the existence of a "Christ" in-universe. |
| 35 | ** One character, an assistant to Pyxis, is named Anka Rheinberger. Rheinberger means "a person from a town on the Rhine river". Where exactly is the Rhine river on Paradis Island? |
| 36 | * ''Franchise/DragonBall'' has a few: |
| 37 | ** Bulma tells Goku that the capsule house she just made is "no Taj Mahal", but still adequate. How she knows about a mausoleum in real-world India is anyone's guess. |
| 38 | ** When the Kamehameha is first introduced, Puar asks Yamcha what that is, and Yamcha directly references the attack's namesake by answering that it's the name of a Hawaiian king, even though Hawaii shouldn't exist. |
| 39 | ** In the Buu arc, Mr. Satan reads ''Literature/ADogOfFlanders'' to Majin Buu as part of a joke about how Buu finds the [[DownerEnding ending]] [[BlackComedy hilarious.]] The novel is very popular in Japan (even having [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dog_of_Flanders#Film,_TV_and_theatrical_adaptations several]] Japanese TV adaptations before this chapter was written), so the intended audience would've gotten the reference immediately. Apparently there's a Belgium on Dragon Ball Earth too... or else the novel is in-universe fantasy. |
| 40 | ** In the first arc, [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed-Ff1CWAAA6W-P?format=png&name=medium Bulma]] has a poster for the 1985 movie ''Fandango'' on her wall and a model kit for the Yamaha [=VMX12=] motorbike on her desk. |
| 41 | ** In the Japanese version of ''Anime/DragonBallZBrolyTheLegendarySuperSaiyan'', a drunk Master Roshi exclaims in response to Krillin's terrible karaoke that Krillin is "Nippon ichi!" meaning "best in all Japan!" even though Japan doesn't exist in the Dragon World. |
| 42 | ** [[DubInducedPlotHole In the Ocean dub]], one of the more awkward instances of NeverSayDie occurs during the fight with Guldo. Krillin worries about Vegeta letting them "go the way of the dinosaurs," which doesn't make sense since [[LivingDinosaurs dinosaurs are still around]] in the Dragon World. |
| 43 | * ''Anime/{{Bakugan}}'' has a lot of these. The fact that Bakugan are named with English etymologies (Dragonoid = dragon) can be easily forgiven. What's more conspicuous is that many of their attacks are named for real mythologies -- Spartan fire, Odin's shield, Mars' spear, etc. Where did the aliens learn the Eddas and Illiad? |
| 44 | * ''Manga/TheFiveStarStories'' has numerous things and people named after Earth stuff despite either taking place ALongTimeAgoInAGalaxyFarFarAway or a future so distant that nobody knows much about life before space colonization. Lampshaded at one point where Ladios Sopp indulges in a bit of LeaningOnTheFourthWall and jokingly asks Chrome Ballanche, a MadScientist who has created several ArtificialHuman "Fatimas" with names based on Greek and other mythologies just where he comes up with these names. |
| 45 | * ''Franchise/FullmetalAlchemist'': |
| 46 | ** ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'': In a flashback in one episode of ''Brotherhood'', Pinako and Hohenheim share a bottle of Scotch whiskey, despite living in a world where Scotland presumably doesn't exist. |
| 47 | ** During the Lior arc, Ed recounts the story of Icarus (though not by name) to Rose, even though Greece also presumably doesn't exist in this world. [[spoiler: Since Xerxes seems to be a FantasyCounterpartCulture for Greece, maybe that's where the myth came from in the ''FMA'' world.]] |
| 48 | ** The manga and ''Brotherhood'' anime also have a lot of Orphaned ''Symbolism'', given that it uses real-world alchemical symbols. For example, the Elric brothers' mark, the Flamel, combines a Greek symbol (the caduceus) with a Christian symbol (the crucifix) despite the presumed nonexistence of Greece and the confirmed by WordOfGod nonexistence of Christianity. |
| 49 | ** In ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': |
| 50 | *** Roy Mustang at one point quotes ''The Art of War'', which presumably doesn't exist in the story's setting. [[spoiler:Only for this to turn out not to be the case, as this version of the story's setting takes place in an offshoot of our reality that split some point after the birth of Christ. As ''The Art of War'' was written sometime during 5th Century BC, it still exists in ''FMA''[='s=] setting]]. |
| 51 | *** Also in the 2003 anime, Winry refers to Rush Valley as "the Mecca of automail", implying the existence of Islam. It's unclear how this interacts with Ishval, which is vaguely coded as being Middle Eastern but has a religion with only superficial similarities to Islam. |
| 52 | * ''Anime/{{Inuyasha}}'': |
| 53 | ** In the English dub, there's an episode where he remarks, "We've all got our own cross to bear." This is set before Christianity was introduced to Japan. |
| 54 | ** In another, Inuyasha complains about having to take time out to be a "Good Samaritan". |
| 55 | * ''Anime/TheMysteriousCitiesOfGold'': In Season 2, Zia asks a boy she meets in China if his pet panda is his "teddy bear". However, teddy bears were invented in the 20th Century, and named after Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt, so a girl from the 1530s (the time period in which the events of the series take place) shouldn't be talking about them, much less using a word like "teddy". |
| 56 | * Lampshaded for humor in ''Anime/OhEdoRocket'' |
| 57 | -->"Sir, that terminology is not in use during this time period." |
| 58 | * ''Manga/OnePiece'': |
| 59 | ** In Creator/{{Viz|Media}}'s translation, Crocodile comments that Luffy is "a dime a dozen", even though ''One Piece'' uses its own fictional currency called Berries. |
| 60 | ** Brook's hairstyle and Luffy's [[Recap/OnePieceDavyBackFightArc wig]] are called "afro" just like on Earth, even though there is no Africa (thus no ''Afro''descendants) in that world. |
| 61 | * A subtle aversion in ''Anime/PokemonArceusAndTheJewelOfLife'': Nobody in the past ever uses the word "Pokémon", as the Poké Balls used to make them ''Pocket'' Monsters haven't been invented yet. Instead, they're simply called "magical creatures". |
| 62 | * The Metarex from ''Anime/SonicX'' have plant-based names like "Dark Oak" and "Black Narcissus". However, they have never visited Earth and are from a whole other universe. |
| 63 | [[/folder]] |
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| 65 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 66 | * ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'' has a few of these, being set in 50 B.C. and AnachronismStew being one of its defining features. Virtually all puns are based on words that were non-existent at the time. |
| 67 | ** A DubInducedPlotHole occurs in the Spanish version of a comic book: A character sneezes, and Asterix says "Bless you!" -- which in this context is translated to Spanish as "¡Jesús!" This raised the question for Spanish readers of how could Asterix say that in the year 50 B.C. |
| 68 | ** For that matter, Geriatrix is always referring to the battle of Gergovia as "Like in '52!" (from a common French expression, "[[HereWeGoAgain like in '40!]]"). That is, 52 B.C. There is even one instance in which a character refers to the current year being 50 B.C., meaning Gergovia was only two years ago. |
| 69 | ** In ''WesternAnimation/AsterixConquersAmerica'', Getafix believes that the land he has arrived in is India. He then inexplicably thinks that the locals would prefer to be called Native Americans, even though the colonisation of the Americas and Amerigo Vespucci's birth didn't happen until over a thousand years later. |
| 70 | ** In a short story featured in ''Recap/AsterixAndObelixsBirthdayTheGoldenBook'', Obelix is learning how to read with an alphabet book, which uses modern French words to teach letters. Obviously, this could not have happened at the time. The English edition takes this further by using "yak" for the letter Y , even though yaks live in the Himalayas and were not known in ancient Gaul. |
| 71 | ** ''Recap/AsterixAndTheActress'' used the expression "drunk as a skunk". Though this is rhyming slang as opposed to an actual comparison, skunks are native to the Americas. |
| 72 | * ''ComicBook/TheAvengersJonathanHickman'' features artificial life forms called the Alephs, who were created millions of years ago by the first sentient species in the universe. It isn't explained how they could be named after the first letter of Earth's Semitic languages, which didn't exist when the Alephs first came around. |
| 73 | * Played for laughs in the ''Literature/TheMoomins'' comic strip: in one storyline, the Moomin family travel back in time to Ancient Egypt. When one of them asks what year it is, an Egyptian replies, "4000 BC." |
| 74 | * In one issue of ''ComicBook/StarWarsMarvel1977'', Han Solo says "I guess I shouldn't have skipped so much Sunday school as a kid." Not only did the concept of Christianity not exist in the ''Star Wars'' universe, but later expanded universe material revealed that "Sunday" didn't exist either, since they have their own names for days of the week[[note]]Though later writers established that "Sunday" was local to Corellia.[[/note]] |
| 75 | * ''Silex and the City'' not only has characters using dates in thousands of years B.C., but such LampshadeHanging as a director of X-rated movies remarking that the letter X hasn't even been invented yet. |
| 76 | * In ''ComicBook/SonicTheComic'', Sonic exclaims "Hallelujah" in one issue. Mobius is an alien planet with no humans and no Hebrew language (it's a transliteration of "הַלְלוּ יָהּ" or "hal'lu Yah", meaning "praise God"). |
| 77 | [[/folder]] |
| 78 | |
| 79 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 80 | * ''ComicStrip/{{BC}}'': A common gag --modern names for things can just pop up out of nowhere. One comic had a caveman accidentally straighten his hair with a fish skeleton and exclaim that he's "invented the comb." |
| 81 | [[/folder]] |
| 82 | |
| 83 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 84 | * ''Fanfic/ApprenticeAndPregnant'' features cats saying "oh my god". ''Warriors'' characters are atheistic ancestor worshipers without even a ''concept'' of gods. They also use "dumbass", despite no sign that anyone knows what a donkey is, and use "hell" despite most cats not knowing evildoers get a separate afterlife and those who do calling it the Dark Forest or the Place of No Stars. |
| 85 | * Among the strongest liberations ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' uses to deviate from its canon counterpart is referential humor on real-world topics that couldn't possibly exist in the ConstructedWorld that is ''Manga/DragonBall'', all with varying degrees of justification. The ''actual'' Vegeta shouldn't know who or what Moe Howard even ''is'', but the ''Abridged'' Vegeta has access to ''Film/TheThreeStooges'' on [[SpaceX Space]]-Creator/{{Hulu}}, so ''he'' gets to make a joke about Gohan's appearance. |
| 86 | * ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'': A recursive example. Fluttershy's pet bunny was named Angel, but it's never explained where that name came from. There is no mention of any angels in culture or mythology. A small tribe that lives under a giant picture of Angel (the building used to be an animal sanctuary) starts calling themselves "angels," and everyone who hears this immediately makes the connection to Fluttershy's pet. |
| 87 | * In ''Fanfic/LetMeHear'', Ruby mentions that Weiss' weapon has a German name. There's no Germany on Remnant. |
| 88 | * In ''Fanfic/PokeWars: The Files of Dr. Kaminko'', amperes and volts are used as units of measurement. However, there is no Alessandro Volta or André-Marie Ampère in the setting. |
| 89 | * ''Fanfic/WarriorsRewrite'': The phrase "scotch free" is used, despite the characters being feral forest cats. |
| 90 | [[/folder]] |
| 91 | |
| 92 | [[folder:Films — Animation]] |
| 93 | * ''WesternAnimation/Cars3'' has a scene where Lightning [=McQueen=] and Cruz Ramirez are both racing each other at a beach, and Cruz worries that she might run over a crab. Given the fact that all "animals" in the ''Cars'' world are vehicles, it's quite possible that the "crabs" in their world are tiny [[RedLiveLobster red]] bulldozers. |
| 94 | * ''WesternAnimation/HappyFeet'' and its sequel ''WesternAnimation/HappyFeetTwo'' are full of these. Both films are musicals that use many pre-existing songs rather than original songs specifically made to fit the film, so they don't always fit well. A good example is the scene in ''Happy Feet Two'' when the elephant seals come to the rescue. They sing [[{{Series/Rawhide}} "Hell Bent for Leather"]]. There are no cows in Antarctica, and elephant seals obviously don't wear clothes anyway, so they shouldn't know what leather is. The use of the word "Hell" also fits this trope because it is unlikely any of these characters have been exposed to Christianity, or any other human religions. |
| 95 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'': |
| 96 | ** In ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTimeIVJourneyThroughTheMists'', during the QuarrelingSong "Who Needs You?", July is mentioned, millions of years before the Roman calendar was invented. |
| 97 | ** In the [[WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTimeIITheGreatValleyAdventure second film]], one of the antagonists calls himself a ''Struthiomimus'' at one point. While he ''is'' in fact a ''Struthiomimus'', he logically shouldn't even know what that word is as he was born (and likely died) long before his own species was named. The word ''Struthiomimus'' itself means "ostrich mimic," so it is rather strange that he's mimicking an animal that won't exist for several million years. Made even weirder by the fact that the series usually uses "CallARabbitASmeerp". |
| 98 | ** The characters call themselves "dinosaurs", even though the series usually avoids using scientific names. |
| 99 | ** Ducky's name, depending on whether it is referring to the waterfowl or not. There are other meanings of the word, but Ducky is known for being [[AquaticHadrosaurs drawn to water]] and being a "duckbill", so the name was most likely intended to refer to the bird that wouldn't exist until millions of years later. |
| 100 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King|1994}}'': Scar uses a few turns of phrase that should make no sense coming from an animal in the African savanna, such as "shallow end of the gene pool" and "the lights are not on upstairs". The hyenas similarly crack jokes involving things they would have no way of knowing about, such as making a pun about a "cub sandwich" when about to try to eat Simba and Nala. |
| 101 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'': In her VillainSong, Zira uses the expressions "drums of war" and "our flags will fly", even though she has no knowledge of such human-made objects. |
| 102 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'': In the song "Daughters of Triton", it is claimed that Ariel's "voice is like a bell", even though mermaids, living underwater and unfamiliar with human civilization, would not know what bells sound like. |
| 103 | * At the end of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls1'', upon returning to Equestria from the human world, Twilight Sparkle tells Princess Celestia that she left Sunset Shimmer "in good hands", prompting Rainbow Dash to ask what "hands" are, even though ''Rainbow herself'' had used the phrase "On the other hand..." in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E2TheReturnOfHarmonyPart2 The Return of Harmony, Part 2]]". |
| 104 | * In ''[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTheMovie2017 My Little Pony: The Movie]]'' the ponified version of Music/TheGoGos' "We Got The Beat" sung by Music/RachelPlatten during the intro still mentions the Watusi dance, which is named after the Tutsi tribe of the African Great Lakes region. |
| 105 | * In ''WesternAnimation/ThePrinceOfEgypt'', [[UsefulNotes/RamsesII Rameses]]' FreudianExcuse stems from his father Seti drilling into him the fact that "it takes only one weak link to tear down the chain that is this mighty dynasty", talking about a kind of metallic chain that won’t be invented for 1000 years after Ramses and using a saying that won't be invented for another 3000. |
| 106 | * In the animated ''WesternAnimation/TheReturnOfTheKing'', Samwise's response to Gollum's final attack is a very animated '''"Gooood''' help us!" (the setting has an equivalent to God, Eru Ilúvatar, but he received direct worship very rarely). |
| 107 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', the different factions of trolls include K-Pop trolls, even though it's set in a fictional world with no Korea. |
| 108 | * ''{{WesternAnimation/Zootopia}}'' takes place in a WorldOfMammals, but the song [[{{Music/Shakira}} "Try Everything"]] by Gazelle mentions ''birds.'' |
| 109 | [[/folder]] |
| 110 | |
| 111 | [[folder:Films — Live-Action]] |
| 112 | * ''Film/{{Flash Gordon|1980}}'': |
| 113 | ** The movie has the War Rocket Ajax as part of Ming's fleet. Ajax was a famous Greek hero, and Ming has never heard of Earth before the start of the movie. |
| 114 | ** Ming himself is an alien emperor sharing his name with a famous ''Chinese'' imperial dynasty. It's a simple enough name to plausibly be a coincidence if not for the transparent (and [[YellowPeril a bit racist]]) resemblance. |
| 115 | * Played for laughs (like everything else) in Creator/MelBrooks' ''Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI''; Comicus says "Jesus" in exasperation during The Last Supper, causing Jesus to answer, "Yes?" assuming that Comicus was addressing him. |
| 116 | * ''Film/TheLordOfTheRingsTheTwoTowers'' has a few minor examples: |
| 117 | ** Soldiers are ordered to loose arrows with the command "Fire!", despite the pre-firearms setting. Note this line is spoken in [[ConLang Elvish]], and the error is only in the subtitles--a more accurate translation is "Loose!" (oddly enough the first movie gets this right). |
| 118 | ** While debating on whether or not to eat Merry and Pippin, the Orc party start killing some divergent numbers, which incites the remark "[[ImAHumanitarian Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!]]" This raised discussion amongst fans about Orc restaurants. Men and Hobbits have inns, which have menus, but the Orcs probably don't. They would however have mess tents for their army and it's possible that the day's food would be declared in advance. |
| 119 | * In ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol'', "teddy bears" are mentioned. The "teddy" in "teddy bear" refers to UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt, who wasn't yet born when the film takes place. |
| 120 | * In ''Film/RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'', the Sheriff of Nottingham refers to the Celts as "hired thugs." This is taking place two centuries before the Thuggee cult in India even existed. |
| 121 | * ''Franchise/StarWars'': Unless you go with the idea that TranslationConvention is in effect for whatever language Galactic Basic is supposed to be, the series has loads of otherwise inexplicable examples. |
| 122 | ** Han Solo's ship is called the ''Millennium Falcon'', even though they really shouldn't know what a "falcon" is. Interestingly though, various Earth animals sometimes show up in the canon, so perhaps the ship is genuinely named after what we Earthlings know as a falcon. Both the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' and ''Franchise/StarWarsLegends'' do, in fact, at least have one reference to [[https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Falcon actual falcons]]. |
| 123 | ** Obi-Wan refers to the Clone Wars as a "damn fool idealistic crusade," yet the Crusades were a Christianity-specific holy war against other religions, named after the cross itself. |
| 124 | ** Han's "I'll see you in Hell" from ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' often raises the question "Why does he know that concept?", but the ''Star Wars'' setting ''has'' afterlife beliefs, and ''lots'' of cultures have a conception of the Land of the Dead that is [[TranslationConvention most conveniently put into English]] as "{{Hell}}". [[note]] Hell comes from the Germanic goddess of the dead as well as the realm that she ruled over. Use in a Christian context comes from translating the word "Hades" in the New Testament.[[/note]] |
| 125 | ** Likewise, ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' uses the word "boycott", which comes straight from the shunning campaign against landowner [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Boycott Charles Boycott]] in 19th-century Ireland. This trope, or TranslationConvention? You decide. After all, people have translated the Roman custom of ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secessio_plebis secessio plebis,]]'' where the lower class would quit working and leave, shutting down the city to protest mistreatment, as "plebeian boycott". |
| 126 | ** The same film also subverts this when Anakin asks Padmé if she is an angel. Although the religious origins of that word do not exist in the ''Star Wars'' universe, Anakin clarifies that angels are [[AngelicAliens creatures from the moons of the planet Iego]] renowned throughout the galaxy for their beauty. |
| 127 | ** In ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', Han uses the phrase [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbo_jumbo_(phrase) "mumbo jumbo"]] when describing his earlier doubts about the Force. The phrase is likely an Anglicized derivative of a word for a ceremonial dancer in the religious ceremonies of the Mandinka people of Africa. |
| 128 | ** But really, every word in the English language is derived from Earth history in some way. Even a word as basic as "empire" is ultimately a reference to UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire. |
| 129 | * In ''Film/BattlefieldEarth, Johnny mentions Euclidean Geometry, despite the fact that he learned it from aliens who wouldn't know who Euclid of Alexandria was. Also, the humans like to say "piece of cake" in its modern meaning of "an easy task," despite not knowing what cake is. In the latter case, the script writer stated that the original meaning of "piece of cake" has been lost to time. |
| 130 | [[/folder]] |
| 131 | |
| 132 | [[folder:Gamebooks]] |
| 133 | * In ''Literature/LoneWolf'' Book 4, a demonic enemy is briefly described as "satanic", even though Magnamund is a world unrelated to Earth and Christian tropes. The term is never used again. |
| 134 | [[/folder]] |
| 135 | |
| 136 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 137 | * In ''Literature/TheBoneWitch'', at one point the protagonist describes the different kinds of daisy to Bard, and refers to one of them as a "Michaelmas daisy". [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michaelmas Michaelmas]] is a major Christian festival; needless to say, there is no Christianity in this fantasy novel. |
| 138 | * It's mentioned in ''Literature/{{Bravelands}}'' that baboons call certain wind storms "dust devils". There's no sign that any of the animals have any concept of devils. |
| 139 | * It's not clear whether ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'' takes place in a fictional world, or an alternate/future timeline of our world. If the former, then it's unclear why they have cowboy hats called "Stetsons"; in our world they're named after the man who designed several of the hat styles we associate with cowboys. It could be that this fictional world ''also'' had a person named Stetson who invented similar hats, but if so we never find out. |
| 140 | * It's one thing for Turkish delight to exist in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' universe, but why would the inhabitants of Narnia call it that when they would never have heard of Turkey? |
| 141 | * Creator/BrandonSanderson's ''Literature/TheCosmere'' mostly averts this: |
| 142 | ** ''Franchise/{{Mistborn}}'''s planet Scadrial has no moon, so no one ever makes any references to "mooning" over someone or anything of the like. (Except once, when a character is referring to a friend's romance, in what by WordOfGod is a mistake). |
| 143 | ** ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': |
| 144 | *** The planet Roshar has all the soil scoured from the majority of the continent by massive high storms, so no one talks about soil, mud, or even dirt. Highstorms do carry a thick, sludgy substance that gathers on buildings and slowly hardens into stone (implied to be eroded rock and stone carried by the storms). On any other world, it would just be referred to as mud, but here they call it crem because they don't have a word for mud. |
| 145 | *** {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d with the axehounds, dog-sized lobster-things used as pets and hunting companions. A DimensionalTraveler worldhopper points out that while the people of Roshar are well aware of what an axe is, they don't have any actual hounds, so what do they think the name means? This turns out to be foreshadowing about the nature of humans on Roshar. |
| 146 | *** A subtle aversion is in the Palanaeum, the planet's greatest and most famous library. While the real-world "Athenaeum" was named after Athena the [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek goddess of wisdom]], the Palanaeum is named after the Rosharan Herald Pailiah, who is associated with the Divine Attributes of "Learned" and "Giving" in the Vorin faith. [[spoiler:She also visits the Palanaeum [[AngelUnaware incognito]] in the present day.]] The name cleverly still manages to evoke ''Pallas'' Athena. |
| 147 | *** Horneater "lager", unlike the real-world beer, is so much more potent than the distilled Alethi "wines" that many Alethi bars refuse to stock it because it [[AteTheSpoon dissolves their cups]]. |
| 148 | * Parodied in ''Creator/DaveBarry's Complete Guide to Guys'', where one of the entries in Alexander the Great's diary reads: |
| 149 | -->324 B.C., Jan. 6 -- Note: Find out what "B.C." stands for. |
| 150 | * Applying FridgeLogic to the setting of ''Literature/{{Dinotopia}}'' can result in several cases of this. The original books by James Gurney took place in the 1860s, when very few dinosaurs were known to science. However, the characters routinely mention the names of species that were discovered much later, such as ''Tyrannosaurus'', ''Deinonychus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus''. The last one in particular is especially notable for being named after an Aztec god, despite the inhabitants of Dinotopia knowing nothing about the Aztecs! |
| 151 | * ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'': |
| 152 | ** One of the earlier books references gypsies, which is kind of a problem, since there's no Egypt in the universe to derive that name--the equivalent is called Djelibeybi. So, if there are Roma on the Disc, they should probably be nicknamed Jelibeybs or something like that. |
| 153 | *** [[Creator/TerryPratchett PTerry]] even noticed this, and explained that 'Djelibeybs', which they should be called, wouldn't be understood by the readers, so he had to use a conventional English word instead. (Also, the book that introduced Djelibeybi was written ''after'' this.) |
| 154 | *** {{Fanon}} (well, one discussion on afp) has it that Discworld gypsies are descended from itinerant plaster-of-Pseudopolis sellers, hence the name is derived from "gypsum." [[note]]And an even later retcon would mean "Plaster of Quirm City" would be even more accurate[[/note]] |
| 155 | ** In ''Literature/WitchesAbroad'', there's a reference to a christening, and a woman named Christine in ''Literature/MonstrousRegiment''. In ''Literature/CarpeJugulum'' and ''Nanny Ogg's Cookbook'', this has been replaced with Naming Ceremony. Then again, 'Christ' is Greek for "anointed", so Jesus doesn't necessarily need to come into it. |
| 156 | ** Parodied in the ''Assassins' Guild Diary'' which uses the orphaned word "byzantine" ... in explaining that the politics of the Komplezian Empire were the origins of the modern Morporkian word "complex". |
| 157 | ** In the introduction to ''The Discworld Companion'', Pratchett says that a fantasy author may start out trying to avoid references to things like "Toledo steel", but sooner or later will just look up from their keyboard, mutter "what the hell" and give up. |
| 158 | ** ''Literature/{{Jingo}}'' has Vimes mention a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov Pavlovian]] response. A footnote explains that, on the Discworld, this phenomenon was so named after a scientist proved that dogs could be trained to salivate at the thought of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlova_(food) meringue]]. (This is ''itself'' an Orphaned Etymology, as the food was named for a person who ''also'' didn't exist on Discworld!). The same book also has Vetinari mention that Morporkian is a ''lingua franca'' on the continent. |
| 159 | ** One of the Wizards books has a Ming vase. So called because, if you tap it, it goes ''[[WrittenSoundEffect Ming!]]'' |
| 160 | ** The French translation of ''Literature/GuardsGuards'' has this problem with Carrot's "Dwarfish war yodel", because the French word for yodel is ''Tyrolienne'', referencing a place that doesn't exist on the Discworld. |
| 161 | ** The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat yudasgoat]] in ''Literature/FeetOfClay''. Maybe there was coincidentally some guy named Yudas on the Disc who was just a real untrustworthy slimeball. |
| 162 | ** Despite having an eight-day week, the Disc has the word "fortnight", because "sixtnight" just looks awkward. |
| 163 | ** A jarringly-obvious example which Pterry really ''should'' have picked up on was in ''Literature/GoingPostal'' when Moist von Lipwig commented "Wow, El Dorado or what?" while first examining himself and his new golden suit in the mirror. |
| 164 | ** In our world, the word "atlas" comes from the Titan who holds up the sky in Myth/ClassicalMythology. Who or what ''The Compleat Discworld Atlas'' is named after is unknown. |
| 165 | ** Discworlders refer to "fizzy wine" in several books, presumably because there is no "Champagne region" in Quirm. Then ''Literature/UnseenAcademicals'' reveals that "fizzy wine" is the cheap stuff, for people who don't want to spend money on actual champagne. |
| 166 | ** Ankh-Morpork has a thriving industry of kosher butchery that is brought up multiple times in the Watch books alone. Given the non-existence of Judaism on the Disc, it's not clear who these butchers are supplying or where the term "kosher" even comes from in the absence of Jewish dietary law; the only people who actually seem to ''patronise'' these butchers are [[FriendlyNeighbourhoodVampire vampires]]. |
| 167 | ** Several books, especially in the Night Watch series, make mention of an ancient Morporkian general Tacticus (a reference to the real Roman historian [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus Tacitus]]). His incredibly successful military career is said to be the origin of the word "tactics". |
| 168 | ** In ''Literature/{{Jingo}}'', "Morporkified" curry is defined by containing swedes. This is the British English[[note]]Technically ''English'' English, in Scots they're called yellow turnips[[/note]] word for rutabagas, and is, as it sounds, derived from Sweden. |
| 169 | ** In ''Literature/MovingPictures'', the wizards' huge order at the concession stand includes "a jumbo cup of fizzy drink". "Jumbo" for "very large" derives from Jumbo the Elephant, of London Zoo and Barnum & Bailey fame. |
| 170 | * In the ''Literature/DragonridersOfPern'' series, Pernese still say "jays" and "by all that's holy" despite having OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions. Mildly justified in that they might just be holdover expressions from the original Terran colonists. |
| 171 | * In ''Literature/TheElenium'', Sir Bevier's [[WeaponSpecialization weapon of choice]] is consistently called a Lochaber axe, despite the Scottish town of Lochaber being unknown to the Elenians. |
| 172 | * In ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' novel ''Literature/RedCountry'', one character makes a joke/pun on the heroine's name when she introduces herself as Shy, which shouldn't really work since the characters are supposed to be speaking some kind of fictional CommonTongue. Also, while not confirmed, given that another female character in the series is named Shylo, Shy may actually be a nickname for that. Also, at least one character has paraphrased Creator/WilliamShakespeare quotes, although it's plausible that these come from some in-universe equivalent author. |
| 173 | * {{Discussed|Trope}} in ''Literature/TheFlightEngineer'' when the protagonists use the phrase "cut us some slack" through TranslatorMicrobes in reference to their unfamiliarity with Fibian social niceties. The Fibians are mightily confused by this expression, wondering how one "cuts looseness". The human characters don't know either and explain it as an idiom that has long since outlived its source. |
| 174 | * Also by K.J. Parker, ''Literature/TheFoldingKnife'' has a scene where a character jokes that some obnoxious people should be lined up against the wall and shot. Problem is, [[FantasyGunControl there are no guns in the setting]], and thus no firing squads that would give rise to that phrase. Possibly they use bows. |
| 175 | * In ''Literature/HisDarkMaterials'', Lyra refers to uranium mines, but a later chapter refers to "the other five planets", indicating that Uranus hasn't been discovered in her world. In our world, uranium was named after Uranus because they were discovered around the same time. It's possible, however, that in Lyra's world, Uranium was named after the Greek god instead of the planet. |
| 176 | * In an interview, Christopher Paolini, author of the Literature/InheritanceCycle, mentioned this problem, specifically citing "backpedaled" as a word he couldn't use. [[HypocriticalHumor He used it anyway.]] |
| 177 | * ''Literature/TheKingkillerChronicle'' plays with this in some weird ways. There are several fictional dead and in-use languages in its world, so a TranslationConvention is assumed. Then you get things like the word 'vintage'. In our world, it comes from Latin by way of French, referring to wine (vin, vino, vinum, etc...), but it's not any more out of place than any other English word in fantasy. However, in the Four Corners, there is no OrphanedEtymology, because the word ''vintage'' is derived from the country of ''Vintas'', which happens to produce fine wine. |
| 178 | * ''Literature/LegendsAndLattes'': In this story about the first coffee shop in a fantasy city, the word "latte" came from its inventor, a gnome named Latte Diameter. The etymology of "coffee" itself ([[UsefulNotes/{{Coffee}} which is of Arabic origin]] in real life) and other coffee-shop terminology, like the spices and chocolate that go into the pastries, go unexplained. Avoided in the case of biscotti, which is invented outright by the baker Thimble and, like the latte, named "thimblets" after its creator. |
| 179 | * Avoided in ''Literature/TheLiesOfLockeLamora'' A character is described as having "a drooping mustache," instead of a "Fu Manchu mustache." |
| 180 | * ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'': Although Tolkien worked hard to remove words that did not have a European root, he did let some things slide, such as 'potato', which comes from the Taino word ''batata''. Tolkien explained this and other language complications as him [[DirectLineToTheAuthor translating the original language]] into English. The actual new world ''plant'' being present apparently didn't bother him. |
| 181 | ** Mostly, he refers to them as the presumably more English/Hobbit-sounding 'taters'. |
| 182 | ** Inverted in ''Literature/TheHobbit'' where the original refers to Bilbo having tomatoes, the subsequent edition is set in the world of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' and substitutes pickles instead. |
| 183 | ** Tolkien indicates in ''Literature/TheHobbit'' that hobbits play golf, which he attributes to Bilbo's ancestor Bandobras "Bullroarer" Took knocking off the head of the Goblin-king Golfimbul with a club and sending it flying until it landed in a rabbit hole during the Battle of Greenfields. |
| 184 | * ''Literature/TheLostFleet'' has a discussed example. The characters in the spacefuture use the expression "The witch sings" to mean, "something ends", but the origin of the expression is unknown. To the modern reader, it's very clearly a synthesis of "The witch is dead" (a reference to a song in Film/TheWizardOfOz) and "The fat lady sings" (referencing the ending of Music/RichardWagner's ''Theatre/TheRingOfTheNibelung'', which ends with Brünnhilde, the character normally stereotyped as a huge woman in a copper bra and winged helmet, singing a long aria). |
| 185 | * ''Literature/AMemoirByLadyTrent'': The expedition falls afoul of some Komodo dragons -- specifically named as such in the narration -- at one point during ''Voyage of the Basilisk'', despite the series taking place in a world where the Indonesian island of Komodo does not exist. |
| 186 | * ''Literature/TheRingworldThrone'': A native of the Ring refers to how the irritable chieftain of the Grass Giants might "go off like a volcano" if he finds out about something, which is puzzling because Ringworld has no volcanic activity. Or the Roman god Vulcan, for that matter. |
| 187 | * Early in Creator/KJParker's ''Literature/{{Sharps}}'', one character quotes the Dorothy Parker quip (here attributed to an ancient philosopher) that "You can lead a whore to culture but you can't make her think." Later in the novel, it is implied that the language of the main characters' country is more or less Latin and that of TheEmpire from which they became independent is more or less Greek. This creates problems with the joke, in that whore isn't a word of Latin or Greek origin, and the Greek and Latin words for the profession wouldn't allow for a pun on horticulture (there's also an issue that the proverb that Dorothy Parker was spoofing -- "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"- [[http://voices.yahoo.com/phrase-origins-lead-horse-water-but-you-7784942.html has an Old English]] origin, not a Classical one). There's also a bit of this in the fact that the novel revolves around a disputed territory between feuding nations, that is generally referred to as a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demilitarized_zone DMZ]]- definitely a modern term. |
| 188 | * ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': George R.R. Martin also slips once in a while, and uses words like "damask" in a world with no city named Damascus, "turkey" (the fowl) where there is no country of the same name, or "chequy" when the setting doesn't have an apparent direct analog to chess (and the closest game is called ''cyvasse''). The StraightEdgeEvil character Roose Bolton likes to drink the medicinal beverage [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocras Hippocras]], the name of which ultimately derives from the Ancient Greek physician Hippocrates. When Theon contemplates paying [[spoiler:Ramsay Snow, who has just returned with an army as he promised to do in return for being given a girl to rape]] [[Theatre/TheMerchantOfVenice "his pound of flesh"]] towards the end of ''A Clash of Kings'', he's quoting Creator/WilliamShakespeare in a world where the latter never lived. The "gunwale" of a ship is referred to 12 times, while no cannon is used by any of the cultures shown so far; in a modern context a gunwale is an upper edge of a ship's side, but originally was a reinforcement specifically to accommodate cannons. |
| 189 | ** In the "chequy" case, it's not that bad, since they do have the word "check"; take into account that it's not the game that named the move but the move which named the game, since in the end, it comes from the word šāh (king) in the sentence that players said at the end of the game that roughly translates as "the king is dead"; if ''cyvasse'' has a king piece and Westeron is equaled to English and the verb "to check" exists, there's reason for the end of that game to be called "checkmate" or for danger to the king piece to be "put into check" (we would be translating a word of foreign origin into its English equivalent). |
| 190 | ** The books attempt to sidestep the issue with their use of the phrase “the apple of his throat” in reference to an Adam’s apple, to remove the Biblical reference as the Bible doesn’t exist in this universe. |
| 191 | ** ''Literature/TheWorldOfIceAndFire'' introduces a wild dragon that is called "The Cannibal" because it eats its own kind, even though no Westerosi would have heard about a maneating people from the Caribbean. |
| 192 | ** House Stokeworth's sigil is of a lamb next to a goblet, and its words- "Proud to be Faithful"- indicate this is supposed to represent piety. Of course, the lamb being a religious symbol is very specifically from Christianity, and the FantasyCounterpartCulture of the Catholic Church, the Faith of the Seven, have no such ovine iconography. |
| 193 | ** Barely and slightly clumsily averted- when faced with a point of no return, Daenerys Targaryen thinks to herself, "It is time to cross the Trident." Obviously this is the phrase "crossing the Rubicon" with the river changed for one that exists in the setting. But it carries none of the meaning that "crossing the Rubicon" does; Caesar crossing the Rubicon with his armies was illegal and literally the point of no return. There is no historical example of someone crossing the Trident with similar legal consequences, making the metaphor nonsense. |
| 194 | * In the first ''Literature/{{Spellsinger}}'' book, the town of Lynchbany is named for the hanging of Tilo Bany by an angry mob. The word "lynch" meaning an extralegal execution derives from Charles Lynch, an eighteenth-century Virginian known for the practice. How lynching came to be called that in the Warmlands is not explained. |
| 195 | * The novelization of ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/ANewHope'' includes a small dialogue in which Obi-Wan Kenobi is musing about training Luke. |
| 196 | -->'''Ben:''' Even a duck has to be taught to swim.\ |
| 197 | '''Luke:''' What's a duck? |
| 198 | ** This is a bit of an aversion since several of the ''Star Wars'' tie-ins around the time the film came out seemed to be written under the assumption that Earth creatures did, in fact, exist in the galaxy far far away. [[FridgeLogic The reason Luke doesn't know what a duck is that he lives on a desert world;]] he recalls owning a dog at one point. Eventually, ducks are introduced into the canon. |
| 199 | ** Another ''Star Wars'' example: the novel ''Literature/LandoCalrissianAndTheStarcaveOfThonBoka'' mentions a [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Portuguese_man-o%27-war Portuguese man-o-war]] despite Portugal, obviously, not existing in the setting. A later article on [=StarWars.com=] made an offhand mention of the planet Portug, though it's not explicitly said that it's where the term comes from in-universe. |
| 200 | * ''Literature/TheToughGuideToFantasyland'': Turncoats. Nobody is ever described as wearing a coat in Fantasyland -- it's always cloaks, robes, and sometimes tunics -- but nobody ever talks about "turncloaks" or "turnrobes". |
| 201 | * ''Literature/VoidDogs'': Lampshaded repeatedly, including a self-deprecating reference to an "early 21st-century writer" who was notorious for her insistence on lampshading Orphaned Etymology. |
| 202 | * Andrzej Sapkowski, best known for creating ''Literature/TheWitcher'' short stories and novels, eventually answered occasional criticisms of the Witcher world being "anachronistic" (such as the mention of a woman's panties) by pointing out the ubiquity of this trope. By that logic, he noted, no fantasy novel published in Polish should ever include a king, as the word for "king" (in the Polish language) is derived from Charlemagne's name. A wholly imaginary world, he notes, has just as much reason to include modern women's underwear[[note]]Which becomes HilariousInHindsight after examples of ''very'' modern-looking bras and panties were discovered dating to the 15th century[[/note]] as it has to use modern words or ones that reference the real world. In another novel of his, with fantasy elements but set in medieval Europe, a character uses the word "cholera", a common and rather modern-sounding curse word in Polish. A footnote notes that the name of the sickness dates back to antiquity and the well-educated character who uses it would know the word and, furthermore, cursing by invoking the names of illnesses and maladies has a very long history. The footnote ends with "while there is no evidence that this particular word was used for cursing in medieval times, there is also no evidence that it wasn't", in what is possibly a TakeThat against such criticism. |
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| 205 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 206 | * ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' has a few examples of terms that should be exclusive to Earth history, despite existing in a fictional universe where Earth is just a myth [[spoiler:and modern history as we know it has not happened yet]]. Ships are named after Earth animals (viper, raptor) and Roslin once quotes ''Theatre/TheMerchantOfVenice'', among other things. WordOfGod explains that at least some of these were intentional, implying a cosmic connection between their history and ours ([[ArcWords "All of this has happened before"]]). The one they probably can't get away with is Tigh's exclamation of "Jesus!" Even if there was such a figure in Colonial history, they are almost exclusively polytheistic and there are no other hints of anything resembling Abrahamic religions. |
| 207 | ** Averted in the original series: when the Galacticans encounter humans in deep space, one of the Not-Nazi soldiers says that their spacecraft will take down the Galactica, like "a pack of wolves takes down a bear." Adama responds that he has never heard of a wolf or a bear. |
| 208 | * In the British wartime sitcom ''Chickens'', the characters refer to the war as World War I. In real life, it was called the Great War at that time. Some more cynical writers of the era doubted that it could truly be "the war to end all wars" and reasoned that if there's already one World War, there might as well be another. |
| 209 | * ''Series/{{Dinosaurs}}'' uses the B.C. timeline. {{Lampshaded}} in the first episode when Robbie asks why the dates go backward. "I mean, what are we counting down for? What are we waiting for?" |
| 210 | * ''Series/GameOfThrones'': |
| 211 | ** The consistent use of the term "pillow-biter" to refer to gay men (usually contemptuously). This is a real term in modern British slang meaning just what it's used to mean in the show, but it dates from the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorpe_affair 1979 trial]] of former [[UsefulNotes/BritishPoliticalSystem Liberal Party]] leader [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Thorpe Jeremy Thorpe]] who was charged with incitement to/conspiracy to commit murder of a former homosexual partner (specifically deriving from his accuser Norman Scott's testimony that he "bit the pillow" when Thorpe penetrated him). Needless to say, neither Jeremy Thorpe nor his trial existed or occurred in Westeros. |
| 212 | ** Although earlier seasons have characters correctly say "loose" when commanding archers to shoot, later seasons slip in having the command be to "fire". This stems from firearms, which obviously do not exist in a medieval setting like Westeros. |
| 213 | * ''Series/HistoryBites'' also uses this trope in the episode focusing on AncientRome. Also lampshaded as the [[ItMakesSenseInContext news anchors]] [[RunningGag repeatedly say]] "whatever B.C. means." |
| 214 | * Despite being an alien witch older than humanity itself, Rita Repulsa from ''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' still manages to be named after an Earth flower (Rita is short for Margarita, which is spanish for daisy) and show people how ''repulsive'' she is. In the reboot movie, it's implied that Rita (pronounced Ree-Tah) is an alien name that coincidentally sounds human. |
| 215 | ** The Franchise/SuperSentai franchise has occasionally paid homage to ''Power Rangers'' by using the term "Zord" to refer to their HumongousMecha (specifically the G-Zord from ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'' and as a catch-all term in ''Series/TokumeiSentaiGobusters''). However, the name presumably came from the Mighty Morphin team's mentor Zordon of Eltar, who doesn't even exist in ''Sentai'' continuity. |
| 216 | * In ''Series/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy1981'', when Deep Thought declares that the answer to "life, the universe and everything" is 42, one of its creators' descendents says to the other "we're going to get lynched, you know that?" The term is believed to have originated in the 18th Century, but the scene in question is the origin story of Earth itself, so it's billions of years prior to its real-world usage in any case. |
| 217 | * The BBC series ''Series/RobinHood'' at one point features the Sheriff threatening some innocent party with a time-limited offer, which he punctuates with "tick-tock". The mechanical clock didn't arrive in Europe until at least the following century. |
| 218 | * In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Bajoran characters say "My God" once or twice, despite believing in the Prophets, not gods. Could be justified as influence from human contact however. |
| 219 | * ''Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook'': |
| 220 | ** Beautifully lampshaded in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQjT3z0ti6U this sketch]]: |
| 221 | --->'''Prehistoric policeman:''' This stone crime, it's rampant. Sometimes I wonder whether the whole advance into stone technology hasn't been a bit of a double-edged sword.\ |
| 222 | '''Prehistoric policewoman:''' Double-edged what?\ |
| 223 | '''Prehistoric policeman:''' I don't know. |
| 224 | ** Another sketch uses the same "Jesus Christ!" exclamation mentioned above, again delivered to Jesus himself. |
| 225 | * In the season finale of ''Series/{{Ahsoka}}'', Grand Admiral Thrawn explicitly refers to Ahsoka as a {{ronin}}, a Japanese word for a samurai without a master. |
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| 228 | [[folder:Podcasts]] |
| 229 | * ''Podcast/DungeonsAndDaddies'': In Episode 2, a dragon is confronted with what they want to do when they grow up, and out of a lack of answers they respond with 'Jesus'. The players immediately point this out, and in character as the dragon the DM hastily saves by explaining it was the name of an ancient dragon constantly beseiged with questions (spelled Chyzzu's), whose name their race invokes in perplexing times. |
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| 232 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 233 | * ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': |
| 234 | ** It has, as of June 2020, 22 different cards with some reference to crusades or crusading (some of which have been deemed offensive due to the historically fraught nature of the real Crusades, but most of which haven't). The term "crusade" derives from "crux", "cross", which is somewhat curious given that ''Magic'' worlds never have Christianity in them; the weirdest ones are Akroan Crusader (Akros is on Theros, which has a pantheon heavily inspired by Classical Greek mythology and thus probably has no cross symbols) and the couple of cards using the word from Innistrad (which has a CrystalDragonJesus religion, but its symbol is a collar, so a more likely word would be "torquade"). |
| 235 | ** Innistrad's "cathars" draw their name from a Christian sect whose name is derived from a Greek word. Innistrad has no Christianity, with a CrystalDragonJesus religion instead, and no particularly notable Greek influences - the local culture draws from more Germanic influences. |
| 236 | ** Some cards predate Magic really ''having'' lore and reference real-world cultural elements, some of which have since had retcons applied to bring them into line: the [[https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/24/lord-of-atlantis Lord of Atlantis]] actually hails from a city called Etlan Shiis and "Atlantis" was an in-universe mishearing, [[https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/39/wrath-of-god Wrath of God]] now has actual gods on several different planes it could refer to (with at least one printing referencing Heliod, Theros's Zeus-analogue), and [[https://scryfall.com/card/a25/5/armageddon Armageddon]] presumably references [[https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Megheddon_Defile Megheddon Defile]], the site of a battle that saw the deployment of a FantasticNuke. |
| 237 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' also has the Crusades against the demons of the Worldwound, although the closest thing you'll see to a cross among the crusaders is the sword emblem of Iomedae. |
| 238 | * In ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', the [[TheEmpire Imperium of Mankind]] borrows a lot of terminology (and general aesthetics) from [[ChristianityIsCatholic Christianity (especially Roman Catholicism)]], despite the Imperium following a [[CrystalDragonJesus different religion of]] [[GodEmperor Emperor-worship]]. While this is probably RuleOfCool, it's also somewhat justified as 1) Warhammer 40k works under TranslationConvention and they are probably using different words in the actual setting, and 2) the Warhammer 40k universe is supposed to be the real world one just [[ScifiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale absurdly far in the future]], and thus Christianity existed in the (''very'') distant past of the universe. There's also an all-purpose "out" in the form of the Emperor, who was around for most of human history and thus presumably brought a lot of old language with him (although why a man whose empire mercilessly stamped out religion would feel the need to cover said empire in Roman Catholic stylings and vocabulary is a mystery for the ages). |
| 239 | ** "Crusade" is used as a general term for a very large military campaign, even though it comes from "crux/cross". |
| 240 | ** "Militant-Apostolic" is a title that certain church officials hold, although any mention of Jesus's apostles (much less any concept of apostilic succession) is absent. |
| 241 | ** Words like "Cherub/Cherubim" ([[RobotMaid servitors]] with the bodies of babies) and "Seraph/Seraphim" ([[AmazonBrigade Sisters of Battle]] who specialize in close-quarter combat) are thrown around, while those are Hebrew words for classes of angels. |
| 242 | ** The word "Templar" is often used, such as in the cases of the [[SpaceMarine Black Templars]] and the [[ChurchMilitant Frateris Templar]]. The original, real [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar Knights Templar]] were named after the Temple of King Solomon - something it's doubtful even the residents of its old location on PlanetTerra even know existed. |
| 243 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'': |
| 244 | ** Eberron is cut off from the rest of the D&D multiverse, meaning that spells like ''Mordenkainen's magnificent mansion'', ''Tasha's hideous laughter'' or any of the ''Bigby's hand'' spells don't make much sense since those characters are more associated with other settings. Suggestions from various sources, including Keith Baker, have included having multiversal travellers like Mordenkainen manage to find a way through Eberron's separation, having in-setting characters who coincidentally have the same or very similar names (including the possibility that Mordenkainen refers to [[EvilutionaryBiologist Mordain the Fleshweaver]]), and just dropping the names entirely and calling the spells ''magnificent mansion'' and ''hideous laughter''. |
| 245 | ** Discussed in [[https://keith-baker.com/ifaq-bagmon/ this blog post]] by setting creator Keith Baker, in reference to the VariantChess game Conqueror. Baker argues that while it may be somewhat unsatisfying if this fictional world has coincidentally happened to develop terms like "checkmate" for their game, coming up with a unique vocabulary runs into the problem that your players ''won't know that vocabulary'', so having a character drop references to it won't resonate the way "checkmate" will. |
| 246 | [[/folder]] |
| 247 | |
| 248 | [[folder:Theatre]] |
| 249 | * ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera,'' set in the 19th century, has a song called "The Point of No Return." But that's an aviation term that only dates back to World War II (it originally referred to the point at which an aircraft had burned too much fuel to return to its airfield of origin). |
| 250 | [[/folder]] |
| 251 | |
| 252 | [[folder:Toys]] |
| 253 | * ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'': The story's first eight years took place in the Matoran Universe, an artificial world where certain concepts like romance or biological reproduction were unknown. |
| 254 | ** "Brother" and "sister" are common designations when characters address their companions, and [[BigBad Makuta]] claims to be the spirit-brother of [[BigGood Mata Nui]], despite that they have no concept of familial relations. Officially, brother and sister are just synonyms for fellows who have close bonds or have a similar status, such as the Brotherhood of Makuta (the Makuta also used to serve Mata Nui, making them figurative brothers), gendered for the sake of the audience. |
| 255 | ** At times, characters chastise others for acting like a child and the [[HiveQueen Bahrag]] call their [[TheSwarm Bohrok]] swarms their children, even though they don't mature physically and are created as "adults". The expression "a face only a mother [[GiantEnemyCrab Manas]] could love" also exists. These are generally dismissed as TranslationConvention. The [[BotanicalAbomination Morbuzakh king root]] at least has a case for calling its saplings its children, since they spawned from its seeds. |
| 256 | ** In the {{novelization}} of ''Mask of Light'', Jaller exclaims "Geez!" The movie omits this. |
| 257 | ** In ''Legends of Metru Nui'', Matau flirts with his "sister" Nokama, envisioning taking her on a "romantic" drive, when [[NoHuggingNoKissing they don't know what romantic love is]] -- at least [[WordOfGod according to the primary writer]]. Other authors who worked on the franchise had different ideas, hence the occasional nods to romances that were later stated to be non-canon. |
| 258 | ** The Bahrag threaten Lewa that their powers can make his blood run cold. Kongu at one point debated killing an illusory enemy in "ice-cold blood". Yet, characters don't seem to have blood -- at least, with this being a kid-friendly Toys/{{Lego}} franchise, it could never be shown and their bodies were mostly mechanical anyway. The Barraki have an excuse for knowing about blood, as they eat full organic blood snails from TheOutsideWorld and Kalmah "bleeds" ink when his organic tentacle is cut in one of the animations. |
| 259 | ** The expression "making one sweat" is also used by characters, although they have no skin or glands. This is another case of TranslationConvention. |
| 260 | * ''Toys/{{Hatchimals}}'' has a few. Though as it says that the Giggling Tree has a door to RealLife and that ''may'' make sense given the weird terms used in the lore as it might be where the Hatchimals get them from, but other than that this is still a case of this trope. |
| 261 | ** Hatchimals use the term "hatch" when referring to a fellow Hatchimal being brought into the world as they come out of eggs, their equivalent to a birth. But despite not ever saying that a Hatchimal is "born", the past tense of the word "birth", they still use the term "birthday" when a Hatchimal completes a year since the day of their hatching (it doesn't help that it's also called a ''hatchy'' birthday, as it's simply a {{Pun}} for the word "happy" and not referring to the day of the hatch). It's the only exception to the egg-themed FlintstoneTheming this toyline has to offer. Would've made sense if they use "hatchday", as a Hatchimal wouldn't know what a birth is. |
| 262 | *** The only use of the word "born" is in the official collector's guide, though it does not refer to a hatching and there are no instances where the Hatchimals themselves actually use that word. |
| 263 | ** According to the official app, baby Hatchimals play a game called "king of the bouncy castle", despite Hatchtopia not even having a king or monarch in general (Royal Hatchimals exist, though they do not make up a family or dynasty and are assumed to have that status purely for looks). |
| 264 | ** Christmas is also mentioned in the app, despite there being no Christianity (or any of the real-world pagan faiths the holiday actually stems from) to derive it from. It's likely a SantaClausmas according to holiday-themed merchandise, however. |
| 265 | * ''Toys/{{Rainbocorns}}'': |
| 266 | ** In Melody the Monkeycorn's bio, it says that she considers artists Music/CamilaCabello and Music/ArianaGrande as her inspirations when it comes to singing. How would the Rainbocorns of Rainboville, which is located far up in the sky, somehow know about RealLife human artists? |
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| 270 | * ''VideoGame/AceCombat'': |
| 271 | ** In both ''VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar'' and ''VideoGame/AceCombatZeroTheBelkanWar'', when you're shooting an enemy plane, they'll often say "my plane's being swiss cheesed" even though Switzerland does not exist in [[FictionalEarth Strangereal]], [[ConstructedWorld the setting of the games]]. Likewise, a plane in one mission of ''The Unsung War'' is also said to be "dutch rolling", and another has a character make mention of Burmese. |
| 272 | ** Likewise in ''Zero'', since England and its history never existed in [[AlternateUniverse Strangereal]], where did all the [[Myth/ArthurianLegend Arthurian references]] come from? It may possibly be courtesy of [[VideoGame/AceCombat6FiresOfLiberation Emmeria]], given the country's geography, architecture, and legend of a [[CrystalDragonJesus Golden King]] that is not unlike Arthurian myth, but Emmeria appears to be the FantasyCounterpartCulture to the United Kingdom, Canada, ''[[CultureChopSuey and]]'' Italy. |
| 273 | ** ''VideoGame/AceCombatInfinity'' fell prey to a meta-instance when it started introducing [[OriginalGeneration fictional planes]] from the earlier games; most tried to HandWave their presence by being intentionally vague about their origins or stating that said origins are still classified, but several of the ''VideoGame/AceCombat3Electrosphere'' craft like the Night Raven and Delphinus simply attribute their design to the {{megacorp}}s that built them in ''Electrosphere'', without any care that there's no reason for those corporations to exist in ''Infinity''[='=]s timeline. |
| 274 | ** ''VideoGame/AceCombat7SkiesUnknown'': The descriptions for some aircraft make references to their actual countries of origin, even though, yet again, those countries don't exist in Strangereal. AWACS [[BigEater Long Caster]] also makes mention of an Italian bistro he knows if the player performs well enough in Mission 11. |
| 275 | * ''VideoGame/AsheronsCall'' had a type of high level fire elemental called a "{{hellfire}}", even though none of the in-universe religions that we learn about have a hell. The "inferno" (another powerful fire elemental) technically counts as this as well, since inferno was originally just the Italian word for "hell" before it received its more common meaning of "big fire." |
| 276 | * ''VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}'' has {{Molotov Cocktail}}s, a character mentioning the Hippocratic Oath, and another character using "spartans" seemingly as a generic term for honorable and heroic warriors. Vyacheslav Molotov, Hippocrates, and Sparta all presumably do not exist in ''Bloodborne'''s universe. |
| 277 | * ''VideoGame/BugFables'': The term "fishing" is used even though the characters are anthropomorphic bugs too small to easily catch most fish species, and worms are what are being "fished" for. This could be explained by TranslationConvention, as the first chapter says that the characters are actually speaking in a language called Bugnish. [[spoiler:Because of the ambiguously AfterTheEnd setting, fish may even be extinct.]] |
| 278 | * ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'': Dates use B.C. and A.D., even though Jesus Christ does not appear to exist in the game's universe. This system is apparently based on the founding of the kingdom of Guardia, but that doesn't explain the usage of those terms. Making this even stranger is that Japan doesn't normally use B.C. and A.D., having instead terms that translate to "before common era" and "Western calendar" as equivalents, yet the Japanese version of the game still used B.C. and A.D. in the dates. The game also refers to 600 A.D as the "Middle Ages" without saying what it's the middle ''of'', although this could be HandWaved as saying they mean midway between 1 A.D and 1000 A.D (the "present-day" in the game's timeline) or something along those lines. |
| 279 | * ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'': |
| 280 | ** The Lucerne is a polearm named after the city of Lucerne, Switzerland, where it was popularly used during the 15th to 17th centuries. Presumably, neither Lucerne nor Switzerland exists in the setting's constructed DarkFantasy universe, yet the weapon is in all three games and then later in ''VideoGame/EldenRing'' with its name unchanged. Interestingly, the series' predecessor ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'' actually ''did'' change the name to "Mirdan Hammer", with FlavorText saying it originated from the in-universe land of Mird. |
| 281 | ** In ''VideoGame/DarkSoulsIII'' you can find several religious tomes written in braille for the benefit of {{Blind Seer}}s, even though braille was named after the man who invented it, who also presumably never existed in the ''Dark Souls'' universe. This was absent in the original Japanese, where it was simply called "dot-writing". |
| 282 | * In ''VideoGame/DemonsSouls'' (the spiritual predecessor to ''Dark Souls'' above), the Filthy Woman in the Valley of Defilement complains about Maiden Astraea, claiming that "All the men worship her like she's the Virgin Mary." ''Demon's Souls'' is not set on Earth and the primary religion is clearly not Christianity. |
| 283 | * ''VideoGame/DiscoElysium'': Set in a completely fictional world with different cultures and people, even a different dating system (centuries are named, for example, the game is set in the year '51 of the Current Century, where as another century is known as the Doloranian Century). Days and months are named what they are in the real world, despite the fact that the cultures from where those names came from presumbly didn't exist. Could be justified with that a lot of the cultures in the world do share the same language as their real world counterparts, just named differently. |
| 284 | * ''Franchise/DragonAge'': |
| 285 | ** ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'': Cassandra's actions are referred to as "crusading," despite the Andrastian holy wars being called "Exalted Marches." Moreover, the main symbols of Andrastianism are a flame and a sword, not a cross, from which the word "crusade" is derived. |
| 286 | ** Varric, at one point, exclaims, "Jeez!" in party banter. "Jeez" is a shortened form of the "Jesus Christ!" blaspheme, even though in this world, Jesus has been replaced by Andraste. |
| 287 | ** There are numerous references to days of the week such as Sunday, Friday, and Tuesday, not just in ''Inquisition'' but throughout the series. Those days of the week come from the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week#Germanic_tradition Germanic calendar,]] and are named after mythological figures from Norse mythology (for the example, Thursday is named after Thor, i.e., "Thor's day"). Obviously, these figures do not exist in ''Dragon Age''[='s=] HighFantasy setting. |
| 288 | ** One item you can find is [[https://dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Blood-Soaked_Teddy_Bear_Blood-Soaked a Teddy Bear.]] While bears do exist in Thedas, Teddy Bears were named after [[UsefulNotes/TheodoreRoosevelt "Teddy" Roosevelt]]. |
| 289 | ** Human characters generally have real-world names, even those of Christian religious figures, as opposed to having the names of important figures in Andrastianism (e.g. Cathaire, Havard, or Hessarian). |
| 290 | ** One item you gather in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' is "''sela petrae''", slightly altered Latin for "Peter's salt" -- i.e., saltpeter or potassium nitrate, which it is. While the language is presumably the in-universe [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Tevinter]], the reference to a Peter doesn't fit because it's just a corruption of the original "nitre" from the Latin "''nitrum''". |
| 291 | * ''Franchise/DragonQuest'': |
| 292 | ** This is used a lot. It is even [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in ''VideoGame/DragonQuestV'', where the phrase "proud as [[Theatre/PunchAndJudy Punch]]" is used and the Hero's daughter wonders what Punch was proud about. |
| 293 | ** Similar to the [[Franchise/FinalFantasy Gysahl Greens]] example below, the HP-restoring item Amor Seco Essence is named after the town of Amor from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVI'', yet it appears in later games which do not have an equivalent. |
| 294 | * ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'' takes place in procedurally generated {{standard fantasy setting}}s and tries to avert references to the real world by referring to guinea pigs as "cavies" and black Corinthian bronze as simply "black bronze". However, guineahens are still called guineahens for some reason. |
| 295 | * ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'': |
| 296 | ** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'': One can find three scrolls which massively buff your Acrobatics skill, allowing you to [[InASingleBound jump incredible distances]]. However, as the NPC who invented the scrolls quickly discovered, they wear off after only a few seconds during the jump, meaning you no longer have the power to land safely. They are quite fittingly called "Scrolls of [[IcarusAllusion Icarian Flight]]", however, there is no Greek myth of Icarus in Tamriellic history for that name to come from. ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsOnline Online]]'' includes an EasterEgg of a dead elf named "Icarian", who met his end via similar means and is presumably the in-universe origin of the name. |
| 297 | ** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': Your companion tells you at the end of the intro that the town of Helgen is the "end of the line," despite Tamriel not having trains. |
| 298 | ** ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsAdventuresRedguard'' has a part where Clavicus Vile, the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of [[DealWithTheDevil Deals with the Devil]], asks the hero if he had a "classical education" while giving him a KnightsAndKnaves riddle. Tamriel has no Classical Antiquity to study. |
| 299 | * ''VideoGame/EverQuest'': In addition to having the same "Gypsies but no Egypt" problem as ''Discworld'', the game has Kodiak bears even though it takes place on Norrath where there is no Kodiak. There's also an interesting aversion where a Venus flytrap like a monster is called an "Erollisi Mantrap" (Erollisi being the goddess of love in the setting, and thus equivalent to Venus). |
| 300 | * ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'': |
| 301 | ** An example that applies to the series as a whole are the Gysahl Greens. They first appeared in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'' where they can be found in Gysahl Village. They appear in future installments without any mention of the village. |
| 302 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'': In the original western translation (known as ''Final Fantasy III''), Shadow is described as someone who would "slit his momma's throat for a nickel." Indeed, it's quite the feat in a world where nickels don't exist and gold is the GlobalCurrency. Later translations changed to the more sensible, if admittedly less fearsome, claim that he would kill his best friend for the right price. |
| 303 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'': Tifa's bar has a neon sign with the word TEXAS written prominently on it. There's also a diner in Sector 6 that serves a "Korean BBQ Plate" ([[DubInducedPlotHole although note that the equivalent Japanese term is simply "grilled meat"]]). And when Bugenhagen looks at some [[{{Precursors}} Ancient]] writing in the Forgotten City, he says "it's all greek to me." Even though there's no "Greece" in the game's setting. Or a Turkey, for that matter, so why the "Turks" unit of Shinra operatives has that title is anyone's guess. |
| 304 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII:'' Early in the game, Zell will ask Squall if he could see his Gunblade. If the player declines, he'll call Squall "Scrooge" in response. This would insinuate that not only does ''Literature/AChristmasCarol'' exist in this fantasy world, but so does Christmas and Christianity. |
| 305 | ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2'': The Gullwings participate in a sphere broadcast hosted by Shelinda in Luca in an optional event. When Shelinda addresses Yuna as the leader of the Gullwings, Brother steps in to shout "I'm the leader, me!" and Buddy comments "Whoa! This thing on?" Shinra, resident kid snarker, then steps in to comment "It's taping two morons right now." Not only is there no evidence that cassette tape has ever existed as a means of recording in Spira, but the game makes it very clear that spheres have been used for recording for over a thousand years. |
| 306 | ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', the Last Stand serves huge, decadent hamburgers known as "Archon Burgers". But Germany, much less Hamburg, doesn't exist in the fantasy setting, leaving the origin of the dish's name a mystery. |
| 307 | ** ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'': [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka Palazzo]] mocks [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI Garland]] by calling him a "[[BloodKnight battle-obsessed nimrod]]." The word "nimrod" comes from the name of a [[Literature/TheBible biblical]] hunter and Kefka is evidently using the word's modern meaning ("stubborn buffoon" instead of "great hunter"), which is often attributed to ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes''.[[note]]Bugs and Daffy called Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam "Nimrod" ironically to mock their poor hunting prowess, the same way one might call a stupid person "Einstein". This went over the heads of a generation of children, who have now ''firmly'' been instilled with the belief that the word means "moron".[[/note]] Neither should exist in Kefka's world. |
| 308 | * ''Franchise/FireEmblem'': |
| 309 | ** Some games in the series have a sword called the Wo Dao (essentially a {{katana|sAreJustBetter}}). Wo Dao is Chinese for "Japanese Sword," which is a problem since neither Japan nor China are locations in the games. The [[FantasyCounterpartCulture closest equivalents]] to date are the [[{{Wutai}} clearly Eastern-inspired]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Chon'sin]] and [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Hoshido (and Izumo)]]... and the Wo Dao doesn't even appear in those entries. Interestingly, this was not a case of {{Woolseyism}} as the original Japanese text reads "Wato", an archaic spelling of "Japanese Sword." Why Creator/IntelligentSystems didn't just outright call the Wo Dao a katana is anyone's guess. |
| 310 | ** An interesting subversion comes from the [[CanonWelding joint]] Archanea-Valentia-Jugdral continuity. The Starsphere, later known as Azure, is one of five gemstones required to fully awaken the power of [[MacGuffin the Fire Emblem/Shield of Seals/Binding Shield]] in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]''. As Wendell states in ''[[VideoGameRemake New Mystery]]'' while explaining the Starsphere's own DismantledMacGuffin status, the orb has "twelve constellations etched on its surface." Instead of resorting to a FictionalZodiac, the twelve shards of the Starsphere as they appear in both ''Mystery'' proper and two [[DownloadableContent DLC]] episodes in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Shadows of Valentia]]'' are named for the WesternZodiac as well as depict these constellations. The implication is that, at the very least, these real-life constellations are also recognized in the Archanean-Valentian sky. The same may apply for Polaris [[note]]a class associated with Marth that was first introduced in ''Awakening'' is known as Lodestar, a name commonly attributed to the North Star, though its more general meaning (a person or thing that serves as guide) also fits [[MagneticHero Marth]][[/note]] and the EasternZodiac [[note]]the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Dead]][[VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776 lords]] are named for the Latin equivalent of one of the signs of the Chinese Zodiac in English localizations; in the original Japanese, however, their ThemeNaming is simply [[NumericalThemeNaming the German words for the numbers 1-12]][[/note]]. |
| 311 | * ''VideoGame/FullmetalAlchemistAndTheBrokenAngel'' has [[TheNapoleon Edward Elric]] shout, "You calling me the ''Guinness Book of World Records'' kind of shorty?!" The series takes place in an AlternateHistory version of 1914, while the Guinness Book of Records, as it was originally called, was first published in 1955. The Guinness brand itself dates back to 1759, though, so it's possible they started their world record-keeping a bit earlier in the ''Franchise/FullmetalAlchemist'' 'verse. |
| 312 | * ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'': There are some [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Covenant]] units called Jackals. While they do look like humanoid jackals (and use stealthy tactics), there's still the obvious question of why an alien empire would name one of their units after an Earth animal, as the Jackals existed before they even discovered Earth. You can't even HandWave it as just being a codename the humans call them (since they, like the other species, ''do'' have a suitably alien "official" name), as in the later games you spend part of the time playing as the Arbiter (a Covenant alien) or otherwise hearing alien conversations in English, and all of the aliens call them Jackals as well. We're likely meant to assume that this is just TranslationConvention at work to call the aliens by names that players are more likely to recognize (since those official names are [[AllThereInTheManual only mentioned in outside material like the novels]]), much less ones the actors could actually speak (especially given Creator/{{Bungie}} already had [[VideoGame/{{Marathon}} an established track record with unpronounceable alien names]]). |
| 313 | * ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'': |
| 314 | ** One character is named Cassiopeia, a name taken from Greek mythology. Greece doesn't appear anywhere on the map of Runeterra, unless it physically manifested within ten feet of Pantheon.[[note]]A guy whose cultivated Spartan aesthetic was similarly Greek and similarly out of place until his {{Retool}} got rid of it.[[/note]] |
| 315 | ** The in-universe logic behind Jericho Swain's first name is also a little bit obscure, given that Jericho is a real place in Palestine that is mostly notable in Western culture for its role in some parts of the Old Testament, none of which exist in Runeterra. Out-of-universe, [[RuleOfCool the logic]] is clearly that it sounds badass. |
| 316 | ** Urgot's title is "the Dreadnought". The term 'dreadnought' for a large and powerful machine derives from a specific ship, which was launched in 1906. |
| 317 | * In, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsFromZeroAndTrailsToAzure The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure]]'', when Jona insists to not being responsible for the fire-spitting robots in the Geofront C Sector, Randy comments "Your nose is growin', Jon-ster," even though the story of ''[[Literature/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio Pinocchio]]'' presumably doesn't exist the world of Zemuria. |
| 318 | * ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyroANewBeginning'': Sparx says, "Spyro, we're {{not in Kansas anymore}}," in response to the pair's first glimpse of the ruins around the Dragon Temple, despite this being [[ConstructedWorld an original fantasy setting]] with no such thing as Kansas in it. |
| 319 | * ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'': Lenzo will call you a "penniless ragamuffin" if you don't fork over the money for his Legendary Pictographs. Said money is Rupees; there are no pennies in Hyrule. |
| 320 | * ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'': A conversation in the third game between Lan and [=MegaMan=] has the former asking if the word "pronto" is English, and the latter saying that it's possibly derivied from the Spanish language. Both England and Spain do not exist in this world, with the closest [[FantasyCounterpartCulture equivalent]] in the ''Battle Network'' world (Netopia[[labelnote:*]]Ameroppa in the original Japanese version[[/labelnote]]) being an amalgam of America and Europe. |
| 321 | * The BAWC news anchors in ''VideoGame/MortTheChicken'' attempt at one point to share some wisdom with their viewers. |
| 322 | -->'''Chicken Little:''' And if you have eggs, always put them in more than one basket. That's a rule of thumb.\ |
| 323 | '''Henny Penny:''' What's a thumb?\ |
| 324 | '''Chicken Little:''' [''dismissively''] I dunno. |
| 325 | * ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': |
| 326 | ** The series often refers to real-world locations, such as Silph Co. having a branch located in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiksi Tiksi]] or Lt. Surge being "American".[[note]]Though ''[[VideoGame/PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndEevee Let's Go!]]'' changes [[RedBaron his title]] from "The Lightning American" to "The Lightning Lieutenant."[[/note]] For the most part this could be {{Handwave}}d (e.g. [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue the]] [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver first]] [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire four]] [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl regions]] taking place in Japan and [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Unova]] being part of America; ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 B2/W2]]'' even lampshades this by having one NPC ask if Surge is from Unova) and [[EarthDrift many of the references to real-life locations were slowly phased out as the series progressed]]. [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Kalos]] replaces France ''entirely'', with the current implication being that all countries are replaced with FantasyCounterpartCulture regions. |
| 327 | ** A Team Rocket member in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' refers to herself as a GoodSamaritan; the games would slowly erode traces of real-world religion before introducing its own counterpart to God with Arceus in the fourth generation, replacing Christianity entirely. |
| 328 | * The English localization of ''[[VideoGame/SengokuBasara Sengoku Basara 3]]'' (''Samurai Heroes''), which is set in [[UsefulNotes/SengokuPeriod the Sengoku Era of Japan]] (1467–1573), has a foot soldier of Date Masamune's army periodically claim, "This is something the boss would refer to as 'cool'!" Strictly speaking, [[TotallyRadical this]] is not by any means this series' most grievous example of something [[AnachronismStew being out of chronological order]]. |
| 329 | * In Creator/AdamCadre's ''Shrapnel'', a character fighting in the Civil War calls another "Einstein" -- [[spoiler:which is an in-universe slip-up on his part, as he's a time traveler.]] |
| 330 | * In ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'', the ''only'' [[SkyPirate kind of pirate in the 'verse]] is explicitly called a "sky" pirate, despite the lack of need for differentiation. |
| 331 | * ''VideoGame/StarCraft'': |
| 332 | ** The Xel'naga called their first creation the Protoss, which has the same pronunciation as the ancient Greek word meaning "first," even though the Xel'naga could not have known ancient Greek. |
| 333 | ** On a similar note, one of the Protoss characters from the first game is called Fenix, and ''VideoGame/StarcraftII'' introduces a new Protoss unit, the Phoenix. All of this without them ever having any contact with [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Greek mythology]]. |
| 334 | * ''Franchise/StarFox'': |
| 335 | ** Falco, [[MemeticMutation rather infamously]], sarcastically calls Fox [=McCloud=] "Einstein" if you shoot him in ''VideoGame/StarFox64''. When a reader of ''Magazine/NintendoPower'' magazine sent in a letter questioning how a being from another galaxy could possibly know about UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein, [[https://n64thstreet.com/post/130792433498/scan-time-nintendo-power-gets-smart-with-their the editors' response was]] "[[WatsonianVersusDoylist Because the game's creators are from this galaxy]], Einstein." (Some fans will also propose, [[https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/918578-star-fox jokingly]] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskScienceFiction/comments/3nm8ll/star_foxim_on_your_sideeinstein_how_does_falco/ or]] [[https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/jz0q0/einstein_lived_or_lives_in_the_star_fox_universe/ not]], that there is/was ''an'' Einstein in the Lylat system, just not the one players would be familiar with.) Falco says not only "Einstein," but also "Jeez Laweez, what's that?", "jeez" being a [[GoshDangItToHeck minced]] [[CurseOfTheAncients oath]] for "UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}." He really loves this trope. "Einstein" was [[AvertedTrope removed]] in [[VideoGameRemake the 3DS remake]] of ''64'', with Falco now saying "genius" instead. |
| 336 | ** One ending of ''VideoGame/StarFoxCommand'' had the Anglars using "PunyEarthlings" as an insult to Slippy and Amanda, who are from a planet nowhere near Earth. |
| 337 | * In ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', during the formal dance where everyone is dressed up, Genis tells Lloyd that Sheena laughed at his outfit and said he looked like he was dressed up for Easter Sunday. Easter doesn't exist in the story's world since it's a Christian holiday. However, it's partially lampshaded as Lloyd asks what Easter Sunday is; Genis responds that it's apparently a holiday in Mizuho. |
| 338 | * In ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'', the party can cook a Scottish Egg or Japanese Stew, despite Terca Lumereis containing neither Scotland nor Japan. In the Definitive Edition, one of Patty's win quotes is "All's well that ends Welsh Corgi!" despite there not being a Wales. Likewise, in ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'', one of the ingredients to make salad is Worcestershire Sauce, Worcestershire is a county in England and not a place in Midgand. |
| 339 | * ''VideoGame/{{Terraria}}'' has {{Molotov Cocktail}}s as a craftable weapon, the Uzi as a [[RandomlyDrops random drop]] and Pad Thai can be purchased from the traveling merchant. Vyacheslav Molotov, Thailand and Israel presumably do not exist in the world of ''Terraria''. All that is known about the world is that Sweden apparently does exist in it. |
| 340 | * In ''VideoGame/ThemsFightinHerds'', we have Arizona the calf, and her family are all similarily named after US states... despite the game taking place in a world where the United States doesn't exist. |
| 341 | * ''VideoGame/TheWitcher3WildHunt'': At the conclusion of a heavily [[ItMakesSenseInContext cheese-themed quest]], Geralt names the sword he acquires after a type of cheese, Emmentaler, whose Swiss namesake doesn't exist in the setting. |
| 342 | * ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': |
| 343 | ** Two of the cheeses available for purchase are "Alterac Swiss" and "Fine Aged Cheddar" -- both of which are named after geographic locations on Earth. |
| 344 | ** Goblins have zeppelins, despite Count Ferdinand von Zeppelin not existing in the Warcraft universe. |
| 345 | * In ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1'', [[TheBigGuy Reyn]] occasionally refers to [[SidekickCreatureNuisance Riki]] as a "stupid furry volleyball" in post-battle chatter, calling back to when Shulk, Melia and Reyn served Riki as the ball [[DynamicEntry when they first met him]]. This despite volleyball being an American sport with no clear analogue on Bionis. |
| 346 | * In ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'', [[SirSwearsALot Eunie]] insults [[TheBigGuy Lanz]] by calling him a [[Franchise/TheMuppets "muppet"]] twice over the course of the game. While "muppet" is a common British insult in our world (meaning "idiot"), it's still derived from the puppets, and worth noting because most other cases of explicit language in the English dub (like [[PardonMyKlingon "spark," "snuff," and "mudder"]]) carefully [[AvertedTrope avert this trope]] by [[HoldYourHippogriffs referring only to things that exist in Kevesi/Agnian society]][[labelnote:*]]even to the exclusion of common real-world swears like "fuck" or "damn" because most Kevesi and Agnians are born from PeopleJars and have no concept of sex, family, or religion[[/labelnote]]. [[spoiler: And while Aionios [[EarthAllAlong does have a connection to our Earth]] (through [[VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2 Alrest]]), any cultural connection to ''Franchise/TheMuppets'' has probably been [[AfterTheEnd destroyed several times over]] by now.]] |
| 347 | [[/folder]] |
| 348 | |
| 349 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 350 | * ''WebAnimation/BattleForDreamIsland'' takes place in a [[ObjectShows world]] full of [[AnimateInanimateObject Animate Inanimate Objects]] that only vaguely resembles our own. With that in mind, the world "geez" is said at several occasions. Since the word "geez" comes from a shortening of Jesus Christ, the use of the word can carry some implications. |
| 351 | * ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': |
| 352 | ** Ruby has crosses on her clothes to go with her PerkyGoth aesthetic, and her uncle Qrow wears a tilted cross for a necklace, but there's no sign of Christianity in the series' universe. In fact, every religion we've seen so far on Remnant has been polytheistic[[spoiler:, including the true one]]. |
| 353 | ** One of the characters is named Neopolitan, and her appearance is based on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neapolitan_ice_cream Neapolitan ice cream.]] The world of Remnant does not have a Naples. The word itself derives from the Greek words "neos" (new) and "polis" (city). |
| 354 | [[/folder]] |
| 355 | |
| 356 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 357 | * Despite taking place in a quasi-old west fantasy world nothing like our own, the gun models featured in ''Webcomic/SixGunMage'' -- and there are a ''lot'' of them -- are called by their RealLife names, which tend to reference years, inventors, and/or countries of origin. |
| 358 | * ''[[https://www.deviantart.com/rickgriffin/gallery/54816391/a-h-club A H Club]]'' takes place in a world where PantslessMalesFullyDressedFemales is averted and everyone not an infant wears tops and shirts but no pants. Hilde comments to an old college friend that his wife wears the pants in the family. She admits she never understood were that expression came from. |
| 359 | * ''Webcomic/AwfulHospital'': Celia says that "a hungry Moldsucker slithers like ''lightning''", although she would never have experienced lightning given that she lives [[spoiler:inside a human corpse]]. This is promptly [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] in the following exchange: |
| 360 | -->'''Fern:''' ...how exactly do you know what lightning is?\ |
| 361 | '''Celia:''' Why wouldn't I?\ |
| 362 | '''Fern:''' Becau... never mind. Don't want to know. |
| 363 | * According to ''Webcomic/DinosaurComics''' [[http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=2090 summary of the play,]] Theatre/{{Hamlet}} said, "[[RecordNeedleScratch Record scratch!]] Say WHAAAAAT?" when he found out how his father died. |
| 364 | -->'''AltText:''' Hamlet has to say "record scratch" because records aren't invented yet so you can't make the sound otherwise, HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS |
| 365 | * ''Webcomic/{{Exiern}}'': A HighFantasy world with no relation to Earth, much less Japan, apparently has [[http://www.exiern.com/?p=1033 Yaoi Porn]], mentioned by name. There are also [[http://www.exiern.com/?p=1407 Band-Aids]] and [[http://www.exiern.com/?p=1460 Hallmark cards]], although at least the characters have the good grace to admit they don't know exactly what greeting cards are. |
| 366 | * In one of the ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' strips appearing in ''Dragon Magazine'', Durkon accuses Vaarsuvius of being a GrammarNazi, using the phrase "Uptight English teacher." Vaarsuvius responds with confusion at the word "English" since the language they are speaking is actually "Common." |
| 367 | * In ''Webcomic/PlanetaryMoe'', the planets refer to themselves and others by the names Earth gave them. Since this is a series about the planets, not the people on them, where these names come from are normally unaddressed. This was eventually lampshaded in a series of lore sketches, where it's shown that Earth made up the names from some fanfic they wrote. |
| 368 | * ''Webcomic/SleeplessDomain'': |
| 369 | ** In [[https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-1-page-23 Chapter 1]], Tessa makes a {{finger gun}} with her hand and [[PreMortemOneLiner quips]] ''"Bang."'' as she finishes off a monster, and Undine later imitates the gesture and catchphrase during her own moment of HeroicResolve. This is all despite [[FantasyGunControl firearms explicitly not existing]] within the City -- although, given that the story is implied to take place on Earth after [[AfterTheEnd some sort of collapse]], it's not impossible for them to at least know what a gun ''is''. |
| 370 | --->'''Creator/MaryCagle:''' in any case it's easier to explain than [[MeaningfulName how their names work]] |
| 371 | ** During Undine's encounter with Mark, the latter mutters ''"...Jesus."'' in shock, despite there being no indication that Christianity is present in the setting. The inconsistency is [[JustifiedTrope intentional]] in this case, and it serves as one of several clues that Mark is from [[MysteriousStranger somewhere else]] -- while some further-removed minced oaths like "jeez" do appear in the story, most other characters invoke [[OhMyGods the name of the mythical Founder]] as their deity of choice. |
| 372 | * ''Webcomic/{{XKCD}}'' parodies this in [[https://xkcd.com/890/ this strip]], where Luke delivers an ArmorPiercingQuestion to Han calling his ship the ''Millennium Falcon''. Han is left speechless unable to answer the question. [[HilariousInHindsight Funnily enough]], a fictional falcon species that resides in the ''Star Wars'' galaxy would be mentioned in the book ''Literature/DarkDisciple'' in 2015. |
| 373 | [[/folder]] |
| 374 | |
| 375 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 376 | * Website/{{Neopets}} had a FantasyCounterpartCulture referred to as "gypsies" despite there being no Egypt to derive their name from (the equivalent is called the Lost Desert). The term was later removed from the site. There's also items like French toast, French onion soup, and Welsh rarebit you can feed your pet. |
| 377 | * InUniverse in one of the Chinese branch Website/SCPFoundation articles. In [[http://scp-int.wikidot.com/scp-cn-2631 SCP-CN-2631]] the Foundation encounters a species of StarfishAliens that [[AliensSpeakingEnglish inexplicably speak perfect English]]. When one of the researchers asks them if they know what the "foot" in "footnote" meant, they respond that it is not a word that can be used on its own. This is brought up as one of the reasons why it has to be anomalous as opposed to something more mundane like AliensStealCable. |
| 378 | [[/folder]] |
| 379 | |
| 380 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 381 | * In one episode of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole: Season 2'', Beau asks Nott if she knows what UsefulNotes/StockholmSyndrome is. [[GameMaster Matt]] riffs on this by suggesting that the phrase exists in the same context in Exandria as it does in real life, due to an incident involving a man named Gerald Stockholm. |
| 382 | * In the ''WebVideo/LoadingReadyRun'' "Krog" series of sketches much of the humor comes from from averting this and making up bizarre and [[{{Pun}} punny]] explanations for cavemen to use extremely modern phrases like "problematic post" and "best way to catch backdoor hacker is with honeypot," which here means a person hacking open a cave's back door with an axe and getting hit by a [[BucketBoobyTrap pot of honey placed over it]]. |
| 383 | [[/folder]] |
| 384 | |
| 385 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 386 | * ''WesternAnimation/AroundTheWorldWithWillyFog'': In the second episode, Tico complains that hiding in Rigodon's bag "makes him feel like a pair of socks." However, every character in the series is a BarefootCartoonAnimal, so Tico shouldn't have the word "socks" in his vocabulary. |
| 387 | * ''WesternAnimation/DinosaurTrain'': Hadrosaurs are called "duck-billed dinosaurs" like they are in real life, despite the fact that ducks don't exist yet. |
| 388 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}'' takes place in a [[ConstructedWorld fantasy world very loosely]] [[MedievalEuropeanFantasy based on medieval Europe]], that also features a few out-of-place references: |
| 389 | ** King Zog casually mentions "this isn't my first rodeo" before being confused about what "rodeo" means. |
| 390 | ** A female demon named Stacianne [=LeBlatt=] says that her surname is French; and Literature/HanselAndGretel call themselves Germans, in spite of France or Germany not even being known to exist in this setting. |
| 391 | ** There are repeated references to UsefulNotes/TheCrusades, even though the [[CrystalDragonJesus local equivalent to Christianity]] features no crosses (which the name is derived from), but rather a spiral symbol. |
| 392 | * Several WesternAnimation/TheDisneyAfternoon series such as ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales1987'', ''WesternAnimation/TaleSpin'', and ''WesternAnimation/DarkwingDuck'' are set in worlds occupied only by anthropomorphic animals with no humans [[note]]on Earth, at least[[/note]], yet characters still use words like "man", "woman", "men", and "humanity" and "anthropology" as often we do in our world. (Given how their worlds contain multiple sapient species, they would need one word to refer to all sapient life that doesn't refer to any one species.) |
| 393 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones'' apparently live in the United States and celebrate Christmas despite being cavepeople. FlintstoneTheming, in general, can yield quite a lot of this trope. |
| 394 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'' has several characters referring to real people such as Marie Antoinette and Britney Spears and mentioning places such as America and Europe... while living on Smileyland, which is a planet. One episode even has them mention having gone on vacation to UsefulNotes/{{Australia}} before! |
| 395 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' takes place in a fantasy world, which makes for some uses of this trope: |
| 396 | ** Varrick mentions that "Lyme disease is a serious killer", despite there being no [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme,_Connecticut Lyme]] for the disease to be named after. |
| 397 | ** Likewise, Morse code is mentioned, even though there was no Samuel Morse to invent it. |
| 398 | ** There's also the use of the term "Jeep" to refer to off-road vehicles, which came from slurring the initials GP (General Purpose) even though the ''Avatar'' world doesn't use the Latin alphabet. |
| 399 | ** Both averted ''and'' played straight in a later episode: upon being shown a gun for the first time, a character can't think of any word to describe it except "[[BuffySpeak a thing]]" (owing to the setting's FantasyGunControl). However, later in the same episode, they call it "a cannon". This one could be justified if we remember that cannons do exist in the setting, they are just completely different from our own[[note]]Said cannons are actually just giant tubes that firebenders use to attack from longer distances[[/note]]. |
| 400 | ** In the second season, Tenzin refers to the Avatar State as not being a "booster rocket". There's really no way the phrase could make sense in the setting. |
| 401 | * Real life locations, such as Florida and Rancho Cucamonga, have been mentioned in ''WesternAnimation/{{Mixels}}'', despite the fact it takes place on a different planet than Earth. Gox also sarcastically refers to Snoof as "Einstein", even though there are no human traces in their planet. |
| 402 | * ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': |
| 403 | ** Ponies say "oh my gosh" and "OMG!", without an "oh my god" for these phrases to derive from. In the same sense, "for Pete's sake!" is used once in a while, even though St. Peter is also a Christian figure. |
| 404 | ** The use of "Gesundheit" instead "Bless you" avoids a reference to religions, but introduces a German-equivalent to the setting. |
| 405 | ** Rainbow Dash is fond of calling Twilight Sparkle an egghead. In real life, "egghead" was originally a pejorative used to refer to snobbish intellectuals, who by virtue of being typically older men were usually bald (and thus had heads that looked like eggs). Since the show's characters are horses and aren't generally bald (the few with "[[FurryBaldness bald spots]]" in their manes still have a full covering of fur underneath), it doesn't make much sense for this term to be used here. |
| 406 | ** In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E1MareInTheMoon the first episode]], after Spike acts all enamored toward Rarity, Twilight tells him "Focus, [[TheCasanova Casanova]]." "Casanova" derives from Giacomo Girolamo Casanova, an infamous womanizer from the 18th century. |
| 407 | ** "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E6BoastBusters Boast Busters]]": |
| 408 | *** Spike mentions a Literature/FuManchu mustache. How exactly does a world of magical talking ponies know about a human-created YellowPeril villain? |
| 409 | *** Later, Twilight calls Spike "Theatre/{{Romeo|AndJuliet}}". Perhaps there was some pony version of Creator/WilliamShakespeare? |
| 410 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E8LookBeforeYouSleep Look Before You Sleep]]", Applejack jumps on the bed while yelling "GERONIMO!" This exclamation derives from the name of an Apache leader whom Applejack would have had no way of ever hearing of. The practice of yelling it while jumping comes from US Army Paratroopers, who adopted the phrase from a 1939 movie to show their lack of fear when jumping out of airplanes in World War II; neither the movie, nor the paratroopers, nor the war ever existed in Equestria. |
| 411 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E14SuitedForSuccess Suited for Success]]", when Rarity is designing dresses for the other ponies, Fluttershy specifically requests French Haute Couture, despite being in a universe where France (presumably) doesn't exist. In addition, in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E6TheCutiePox The Cutie Pox]]", one of Apple Bloom's symptoms is a talent for speaking in French (and she even identifies it as "Français" in her dialogue). Applejack simply refers to it as "speaking Fancy". |
| 412 | *** When Twilight is giving Rarity details on how to sew the constellations on her dress during the reprise of "Art of the Dress", she mentions the real-world constellations Orion and Canis Major. |
| 413 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E12CallOfTheCutie Call of the Cutie]]", one thing Rainbow Dash checks for talents is karate. Two-for-one here: why would ponies use a word derived from the Okinawan word for "hand"? |
| 414 | ** "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E13HearthsWarmingEve Hearth's Warming Eve]]" uses the term "helping hand", even though no character up until that point had hands (except Spike, but the term "claws" would be more appropriate). |
| 415 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]", Applejack sings the line "Can y'all give me a hand here?" during the song "What My Cutie Mark is Telling Me". |
| 416 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E12PinkiePride Pinkie Pride]]", [[Music/WeirdAlYankovic Cheese Sandwich]] mentions [[UsefulNotes/{{Hawaii}} Hawai'ian]] shirts in one of his songs. |
| 417 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E11ThreesACrowd Three's a Crowd]]", Discord asks for Swiss cheese and Abyssinian pastries (though admittedly, [[TheGenieKnowsJackNicholson this isn't really out of character for him]]). The issue with Abyssinia is resolved later on in [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyTheMoviePrequel the movie prequel comics]], where it turns out that Abyssinia is, in fact, a country inhabited by CatFolk known as Abyssinians. Switzerland receives no such mention. |
| 418 | ** Lampshaded in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E9SliceOfLife Slice of Life]]", when Doctor Whooves asks what is this "man" is that [[Film/TheBigLebowski the bowling alley ponies]] keep referring to. |
| 419 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E21Hearthbreakers Hearthbreakers]]", Maud Pie mentions Mohs Scale of Hardness. Mohs was the surname of the German person who invented it. |
| 420 | ** In "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E21OnceUponAZeppelin Once Upon a Zeppelin]]", "zeppelin" is used to refer to airships, despite coming from German inventor Ferdinand von Zeppelin. Notably, it seems to be a catch-all term for balloon-based aircraft not propelled by hot air, unlike its [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin very specific meaning]] in real life. |
| 421 | ** The comic books establish that a significant number of Equestria's inventions are taken from ancient excursions into parallel worlds, which may {{handwave}} both this trope and Equestria's SchizoTech. |
| 422 | * ''WesternAnimation/PennZeroPartTimeHero'': In "Brainzburgerz" Sashi uses the phrase FiveFingerDiscount even though the show's characters have FourFingeredHands. |
| 423 | * ''WesternAnimation/PuppyInMyPocketAdventuresInPocketville'' has several: |
| 424 | ** A few of the breeds named after real-world countries and notable figures, such as the Siberian Husky and Saint Bernard, are mentioned by Pocketville denizens who aren’t Magic. Respectively, the bear chef who owns the bamboo cafe on Puppy Key and Eva. |
| 425 | ** The phrases "goody-two-shoes" and "be in one's shoes" are used by the Pocketville characters despite having no use for shoes let alone the existence of shoes in the Pocket Kingdom. |
| 426 | ** The words "gosh" and "goodness" are occasionally uttered by some Pocket Kingdom residents, though there isn't an "Oh my God" to derive that phrase from. |
| 427 | ** Doctor Copper explains what the Latin name for the medicine she gave to Zull and Gort is…though how would the denizens of Pocketville know what AncientRome is? |
| 428 | ** The Pocketville Olympics is mentioned in both "New Friends" when the Royal Guards talk about Robbie's games and in "Believe in Yourself!" when they talk about pawball, their equivalent to soccer/European football. How would they know about the term "Olympics" if they never heard of Olympia, let alone Greece? |
| 429 | ** In the prototype English dub, Claudia/Clelia talks about a speculation on the Friendship Heart's origin which was come up with by a professor by the name of "Franklin D. Puppy". That's referencing [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt this president]] right here. |
| 430 | ** In "Nearly!", Magic comments that Daniel's performance wasn't exactly Oscar material. Now it would've made sense if he acquired the term "Oscar award" from TV but as he might have limited knowledge on the culture of Kate's world, including that of terms coming from television, it may not be so. |
| 431 | ** William uses the saying "I bet a pound to a penny" when he suspects Eva must be behind the scheme of giving Jenny the itches in "A Bad Fall", referring to British currency: the pound sterling. Yet they actually have golden coins as a currency in the Pocket Kingdom which are ''not'' pounds. |
| 432 | ** In "Finally Free!", the Tibetan Bridge is one of the trials of Steel Wool's Royal Guard training, with the kingdom having no Tibet to name the bridge after. |
| 433 | ** Mela calls Pocketville's gift shop the "Christmas Shop" in the episode "A Gift for Ava", with the shop containing items such festive trees and gifts, implying that they might do a SantaClausmas. |
| 434 | ** Inverted in "A Big Responsibility" when William asks "Italy?" after Kate mentions a girl named Martina used to live there. |
| 435 | * ''WesternAnimation/SofiatheFirst'' takes place in the fictional world of Enchancia, yet some Disney Princesses from real-world locations such as [[WesternAnimation/BeautyandtheBeast Belle]] (France), [[{{WesternAnimation/Aladdin}} Jasmine]] (Middle East), {{WesternAnimation/Mulan}} (China), [[WesternAnimation/ThePrincessandtheFrog Tiana]] (New Orleans, LA), and [[{{WesternAnimation/Brave}} Merida]] (Scotland) have made guest star appearances throughout the show. |
| 436 | * ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM'': Multiple: |
| 437 | ** In one episode, Sonic asked Nicole to repeat some TechnoBabble "in English." |
| 438 | ** Lampshaded in "Sonic Conversion". |
| 439 | --->'''Robotnik:''' Oh, please. Something is rotten in Topeka... wherever that is. |
| 440 | ** Sonic also name-checks [[Music/GunsNRoses Axl Rose]] in the show's pilot episode as well. But then again, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the third season was going to reveal]] that [[EarthAllAlong Mobius is a far-future Earth]]. |
| 441 | * ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' has the phrase "dime a dozen" used. The main currency of the galaxy is credits, and they've been shown in various forms, so it's possible there is some kind of equivalent to a dime. |
| 442 | * ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': |
| 443 | ** The show takes place in an AlternateHistory and in a [[FictionalProvince fictional U.S. state]] known as Delmarva, due to being set on the Delmarva Peninsula. This is despite said peninsula's name being a clipped compound of the three real states that actually occupy it: Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. It is still possible they previously existed as some sort of political bodies, such as colonies, which had the common land merged to make a state. |
| 444 | ** [[AliensSpeakingEnglish The show essentially ignores any language barrier between humans and Gems]], which can make some Gem names rather strange to think about, given that Gems are ancient aliens with very limited knowledge of Earth. Holly Blue Agate is named for a type of agate (though the real thing is spelled "Holl'''e'''y blue agate") which itself is named for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holley,_Oregon the town in Oregon where it's found on Earth]] -- a town said character [[TimeAbyss is much older than]]. Sugilite and Larimar are both known types of Gems, even though their names come from specific individuals. There are even characters named Watermelon Tourmaline and Bluebird Azurite, even though most Gems don't know what bluebirds or watermelons are. |
| 445 | ** Because of their [[BizarreAlienReproduction machine-based reproduction]], families and relatives [[HumansThroughAlienEyes are a foreign concept]] to most Gems. However, when a rutile gemstone grows forking apart and created [[ConjoinedTwins two individuals sharing part of their bodies]], they're still called "Rutile Twins". Apparently, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_twinning the geological use of the word "twin"]] is the ''only'' one most Gems know. |
| 446 | * ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'': |
| 447 | ** A visual edition occurs in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime''. The 'bots in Prime categorically lack noses. (Some of them kind of have a nose suggested by the extension of a forehead decoration, but it's still on their forehead). Yet, somehow, they end up using the same Autobot logo as the rest of the franchise, which does indeed feature a stylized nose where noses actually go. [[http://therobotmonster.tumblr.com/post/90524762494 Illustrated here.]] |
| 448 | ** Other characters in the franchise end up with names that don't make a huge amount of sense in the context of robots, sometimes millions of years old, who come from another planet and have maybe been active on Earth for a few years, tops. Arcee's name is just two English letters nailed together, Mach from ''Anime/TransformersVictory'' is indirectly named after a 19th-century human, and if we list all the Cybertronians, like Bumblebee, who are named after Earth animals that Cybertron doesn't seem to have we'll be here all day[[note]]especially baffling for minor Decepticon "Snapdragon", who's named after an Earth ''flower''[[/note]]. |
| 449 | [[/folder]] |
| 450 | |
| 451 | [[folder:Real Life]] |
| 452 | * As noted in the RealityIsUnrealistic page, some people like to claim that things set in the Soviet era where the characters exclaim "My God!" or the like are an example of this trope since a common stereotype for the Soviet Union is complete atheism. Even ignoring the fact that such terms would still linger as holdovers for a long time to come (and the fact that atheists are perfectly capable of using religious swears, even if they don't believe in them), there's also the fact that the USSR never became completely irreligious. Despite attempts at its inception to enforce atheism, the sheer cultural and political influence of the Russian Orthodox Church, in general, made it impossible to ever completely implement. Then Stalin reduced the anti-religious regulation to get the Russian Orthodox Church on his side in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. And though Khrushchev tried to re-implement said regulations, from the Brezhnev era onward they were again relaxed. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgUpPIMn7J0#t=3m In 1964 a kids cartoon taking place in Soviet times]] has an old lady blessing the protagonist with a cross sign, and no one seems to have had any problems with it. |
| 453 | * Also, words can sometimes change their meaning over time, but remain unchanged in their form, appearing absurd and anachronistic in old texts. "Paging" was once the act of sending a page to fetch someone in a crowded room, for example, centuries before the invention of the internet. In post-feudal eras, the term "paging" continued to be used to call for someone who may or may not be present in a room. The same use of the term to summon someone over an intercom has lasted from before pagers were invented to long after they've become obsolete. |
| 454 | * In the Brazilian gaming community, completing a game is colloquially known as "Zerar o Jogo" (something like "Zeroing the Game"). This comes from the Platform/Atari2600 era and its several {{endless game}}s (such as ''VideoGame/RiverRaid''). Since those games lacked an official ending, many players considered that a game "ended" when their score reached the maximum reading and the game [[OverflowError reverted it all back to zero]], similar to an odometer rollover. Even after scores and endlessness fell out of fashion in game design, this expression persisted on and is still used in Brazil. |
| 455 | [[/folder]] |
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