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| 18 | [[quoteright:249:[[Webcomic/BigEthelEnergy https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/rsz_1bee_maam.png]]]] |
| 19 | ->'''Woman:''' Excuse me, ma'am, are you done with this machine?\ |
| 20 | '''Penny:''' Ma'am? ''Ma'am''?! I'm going to go bawl my eyes out, and then I'll be back to ''physically fight you''. |
| 21 | -->-- ''Series/HappyEndings'' |
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| 23 | The single thirty-something woman is addressed as "Ma'am" for the first time, as opposed to "Miss," and freaks out at the cruel reminder that she is now only [[TheCutie a teenager emotionally and mentally]]. |
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| 25 | Note: This may be a regional American usage. In the American South, being addressed as "ma'am" is an ageless sign of respect, merely the feminine form of "sir". In fact, the ''inverse'' is sometimes true there: "Miss" is reserved for young girls, and referring to an adult woman as such can be seen as very condescending or just plain rude. The trope itself occasionally plays off this. For example, a young woman from New York may be called ''Ma'am'' by a Southerner [[CrossCulturalKerfluffle who only means it as a sign of respect]]. |
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| 27 | This trope does not apply only to the English word "Ma'am", it applies to any honorific used mostly for adults. In many cultures, terms like "aunt" or "uncle" serve the same purpose. Thus, in {{anime}} you often see younger characters pull out the HyperspaceMallet when called "ObaSan" or "Ojii-san." |
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| 29 | Of course, sheepishly answering "Yes, ma'am" to a kind request is usually immune to this trope. |
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| 31 | Males will occasionally have a similar reaction to "mister." replying "[[JustForFun/ReportSiht Mister Siht]] is my ''father''." However, this often has less to do with age than with a desire to seem less formal (though of course these factors are related).[[note]]But not always. Many twenty-or-thirtysomething men find younger women attractive. The first time one calls you "sir" is just soul-crushing.[[/note]] |
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| 33 | Compare DontCallMeSir, where a character objects to being called "sir" or "ma'am" due to the unwelcome sense of authority or social distance that the honorific implies. |
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| 36 | !!Examples: |
| 37 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 38 | |
| 39 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 40 | * ''Manga/{{AKIRA}}'': Male example: Kaneda calls one of the officers "Old man" when he presents Kei to him as he leaves from the interrogation. Needless to say, the officer doesn't take it so well. |
| 41 | * In ''Manga/CaseClosed'', Yukiko's always offended when her son Shinichi, for the sake of disguise, calls her "aunty" instead of "older sister". |
| 42 | * In ''Manga/ACentaursLife'', Midoriko, a young woman who married Himeno's mother's younger brother, apparently prefers that her teenage niece call her "nee-chan"("big sister") rather than "baa-chan"("aunt"), since Himeno calls her the latter before correcting herself. However, when Himeno has to correct herself a second time, Midoriko sighs and says she's getting used to it. |
| 43 | * In ''Manga/ChibiMarukoChan'', a variation plays in the chapter/episode when Maru-chan meets her sister's tutor. She firsts introduces herself by explaining how she got her nickname, to which the tutor calls her Maruko-san/Ms. Maruko. She's taken aback by it. |
| 44 | * Kirihara from ''Anime/DarkerThanBlack'' gets one when [[LoonyFan Kiko]] sees the woman together with her [[strike:stalking target]] crush, Hei. Note that Hei and Kirihara are roughly the same age, while Kiko is five to ten years younger. |
| 45 | -->'''Kiko:''' No way! I didn't know [[LikesOlderWomen you liked middle-aged women]]!\ |
| 46 | '''Kirihara:''' M-Middle-aged...? |
| 47 | * In the TV series of ''Anime/ElHazardTheMagnificentWorld'', Jinnai makes the mistake of addressing Miz Mishtal as "Obasan". This being her BerserkButton prompts her to quickly wash him out ([[MakingASplash literally]]) from her shrine. |
| 48 | * In ''Manga/FireEmblemChampionsSword'', [[CoolBigSis Cecilia]] is visibly shocked when [[IdiotHero Al]] calls her "pretty auntie" while thanking her for her help. He gets promptly punished by [[{{Tsundere}} Tiena]] and [[TheBigGuy Gant]] for his rudeness. |
| 49 | * Downplayed in ''Manga/FoodWars'' where Erina calls her aunt "obasan", but Leonora gets angry because she thought Erina said "obaasan" ("grandma"). |
| 50 | * In ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', when Ed and Al first meet Izumi, she is outraged that they call her "aunt" instead of "sister"- the Japanese word for "aunt" is commonly used to address older women whose name is unknown, while "sister" is used for younger women. In the English dub, Ed calls her "''grandma''". |
| 51 | * Male version: In the first episode of ''Anime/GaoGaiGar'', Mamoru keeps calling Guy "Mister", eliciting the response "Don't call me Mister, I'm only 21!"[[note]][[UsefulNotes/JapaneseHonorifics -san, 'Mister', implies age and authority. -kun, his preferred honorific, is more casual, and used for boys, young men, and the like.]][[/note]] |
| 52 | * Male example in ''Manga/HonokaLvUp''. Honoka's uncle Ryuichi doesn't like being called "Uncle Ryuichi," or "Old man Ryuichi," and insists that his niece call him "Ryuichi-san" instead. |
| 53 | * In ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'', [[ClashingCousins Kaguya's cousin Maki]] mockingly refers to her as "Auntie" since (despite the two having been born on the same day) Kaguya is two generations above her. [[spoiler:It evolves into more of an InsultOfEndearment when they start getting along later in the series.]] |
| 54 | * Inverted in ''Manga/KaijuGirlCaramelise''. When high school age Kuroe Akaishi first transforms into [[{{Kaiju}} Harugon]], her date that night, [[NiceGuy Arata Minami]], runs into Kuroe's mother Rinko, who is keeping both her relation to Kuroe and Harugon's true identity secret. Arata says goodbye to Rinko by calling her "onee-san" (literally "sister", and typically used for girls who are only ''slightly'' older than you), which leaves the latter visibly flattered. |
| 55 | * ''Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaAkiraHimekawa'': |
| 56 | ** In ''Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime1999'', Impa lets out an indignant “Ma’am?!” when Link refers to her as such. |
| 57 | ** In ''Manga/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess2016'', Link is annoyed to get his first "ojii-san" (courtesy of [[spoiler:Darpa]]) before he's even out of his teens. |
| 58 | * 5 years before the start of ''Literature/ListenToMeGirlsIAmYourFather'', during Yuuta's first meeting with Sora, she addresses him as Ojiichan (Uncle), much to Yuuta's chagrin, since the two of them were only 5 years apart and, at that time, Yuuta's still in middle school. After quickly taking a liking to Yuuta, however, she decides to call him "Oniichan" (Big Brother) instead. Years later, when they meet again, due to a bad start, Sora begins calling Yuuta Ojiichan again just to rile him up. |
| 59 | * In ''Manga/LoveHina'' anime, Keitaro Urashima calls his cousin Haruka "oba-san" and gets smacked each time he does so, with an admonition to call her "Haruka-san". [[AllThereInTheManual Information external to the program]] indicates that Haruka was formally adopted by Hina-obaachan, and thus in a legal sense is technically Keitaro's aunt, though she is biologically his cousin. Note that the smacking doesn't occur in the manga; Haruka accepts and explains this to the other ladies, who eventually come to call her "Auntie" as well. |
| 60 | * In ''Manga/MagicKnightRayearth'', Umi refers to Alcyone as an Oba-san, which infuriates the sorceress. |
| 61 | * In ''Anime/MagicalShoppingArcadeAbenobashi'', Eutas insists on being called "bro", rather than "Mister". |
| 62 | * In ''Manga/MarchComesInLikeALion'', Akari receives one when Hinata calls her more practical approach in making a bento "too plain" and "something that an old lady would make." Of course, Akari takes it as an indirect implication that she is one herself, and the two sisters get into a minor spat over it. |
| 63 | * Kobayashi from ''Manga/MissKobayashisDragonMaid'' really doesn't like it when people refer to her as Kanna's mother (even though she's perfectly fine with [[ParentalSubstitute playing the role]]), and gets really depressed when she remembers that some of her old classmates have children. |
| 64 | * ''Manga/MySenpaiIsAnnoying'' inverts this, with the main character, Igarashi Futaba, being ''extremely'' pleased when a young boy refers to her as ma'am, as she views it as someone acknowledging her as a grown woman. She's a bit sensitive about people not treating her like an adult (which she is, as she's in her twenties) or thinking she's a kid, which happens a lot due to her being the exact same size she was ''in primary school''. |
| 65 | * In ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', Tsunade is visibly annoyed at Naruto calling her "Grandma Tsunade", though she eventually gives in and lets him do it. She ''is'' actually around 50 years old when they meet, but thanks to her medical jutsu [[OlderThanTheyLook appears much younger]]. |
| 66 | * In ''Manga/OnePiece'' you have Doctor Kureha, who at the youthful age of 139 is ''far'' too young to be called "grandma". |
| 67 | ** Interestingly played with. Sanji spends his experiences with her trying to find the proper term to call her, (at least in the subs) ranging from "miss" to "ma'am" to "hag" to "girl." Kureha continues to beat him senselessly until Sanji simply calls her a lady. |
| 68 | * In an episode of ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'', Misty makes the mistake of calling Jessie an "old hag". She immediately [[BurningWithAnger breathes fire in rage]]. |
| 69 | * In ''Franchise/SailorMoon R'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOiSURxPLz8 the sailor senshis call Esmeraude oba-san at one point,]] which she takes offense to. To be fair to the senshis, Esmeraude freely insults the senshis as pettanko just seconds prior. |
| 70 | * ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'' / ''Tenchi Muyo! GXP'' |
| 71 | ** Airi Masaki's BerserkButton is pressed whenever someone calls her "grandmother"/"obaa-san" -- even though she ''is'' literally Tenchi's grandmother (and Yosho's wife). Even Tenchi himself, as much as Airi adores him, can't call her by this. |
| 72 | ** In the OVA, Sasami asks Tenchi who the "oba-san" with him is. Ryoko... [[SarcasmMode gently]] corrects her. |
| 73 | * Kotetsu from ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'' is none too happy to be called "old man" by the rookie superhero he's been forced to partner up with. His displeasure is only compounded when he discovers that said rookie has decided the [[HeyYou pejorative is to be his new name.]] |
| 74 | ** Said rookie, Barnaby, finds himself on the receiving end of the trope in season 2. And by a rookie that {{Mirror|Character}}s who he was before his CharacterDevelopment, no less. |
| 75 | * ''Manga/TomoChanIsAGirl'': When Jun visits Tomo's home, he greets Tomo's mother Akemi by addressing her as "Obasan". She reacts [[EarAche by pulling his ear]] while correcting him. |
| 76 | * Male example. In ''Manga/YakitateJapan'', both Kuroyanagi and Pierrot get offended when Azuma calls them "uncle" when they're only 22. |
| 77 | * In the original Japanese version of ''Anime/ZoidsNewCentury'', Wild Eagle, the cocky alter-ego of mild-mannered teenager Jamie Hemeros, addresses his rival Pierce as oba-san, much to her annoyance. In the English dub, he calls her "little lady," which, while still patronizing, carries a somewhat different connotation. |
| 78 | [[/folder]] |
| 79 | |
| 80 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 81 | * In an ''[[ComicBook/SupermanBrainiac Action Comics]]'' issue by Creator/GeoffJohns, Cat Grant is already annoyed when the men at the ''Daily Planet'' are wowed by Supergirl's beauty, and gets more so when Supergirl calls her "Ma'am." |
| 82 | * A male example occurs in one issue of ''ComicBook/ForgottenRealms''. Jasmine wants to get out of Saerloon in a hurry, so she tries to get passage aboard the ''Realms Master'' by buttering up its captain, the elderly wizard Dwalimar Omen. He proves receptive and tries to flirt with her, but when she offhandedly calls him "grandad", his mood sours immediately. |
| 83 | -->'''Omen:''' Grandad? Dear child, it is customary for passengers not to insult their captain. |
| 84 | * Happens to Sylvia in ''ComicBook/MinimumWage'' (AKA ''Beg the Question''). |
| 85 | * Variant in ''ComicBook/SpiderMan.'' Trying to locate a student's home, Peter asks for directions from a woman nearby, calling her "Ma'am." She proceeds to ignore the question and lectures him about how "Ma'am" is short for "Madam," and goes on from there. Peter eventually apologizes, restates his question without using "Ma'am," and gets the directions he was looking for. The policeman who wanders up next, however, is clearly about to get the same lecture when he calls her "Ma'am." |
| 86 | ** An early issue has Liz Allen pointedly call Betty Brant "Miss Brant" when inviting Peter to a Spider-Man Fan Club party being held at her family's dinner club and Betty's inner thought reaction states that "when she calls me 'Miss Brant,' I feel a hundred years old!" |
| 87 | * Francine Peters in ''ComicBook/StrangersInParadise''. "I am 29 years old! I am not a ''ma'am''!" |
| 88 | * In Brazilian comic ''[[ComicBook/MonicasGang Tina]]'', the teenage protagonist was once very annoyed at being called "Aunt", when she was at most in her early 20s. She tries to relent once seeing "aunt" and "uncle" being thrown everywhere... only for an old lady to start beating Tina saying "I'm not your aunt!" |
| 89 | [[/folder]] |
| 90 | |
| 91 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 92 | * In one ''ComicStrip/BabyBlues'' comic, Darryl is shaken when Zoe calls him "Dad" instead of "Daddy". He rants that he's too young to be "Dad". Wanda responds that she's been "demoted" to "Ma". |
| 93 | * One ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'' comic had Ellie, in the same day, get called "Lady", "Madam", and "Missus", and wondering "Whatever happened to 'Young Lady'?" |
| 94 | * An ''[[ComicStrip/BloomCounty Outland]]'' comic had Steve Dallas flip out on a guy for calling him "sir". He turns to Opus and says [[TemptingFate there's nothing worse than some young punk calling you "sir"]]...at which point two young women walk up, and guess what they call him? |
| 95 | * ''ComicStrip/{{Zits}}'': When a little kid calls Jeremy "Mister", he goes into shock and complains that nothing will ever be the same. His mother Connie responds: |
| 96 | -->I'm still smarting from my first "ma'aming". |
| 97 | [[/folder]] |
| 98 | |
| 99 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 100 | * Creator/AAPessimal |
| 101 | ** In ''Fanfic/TheManyWorldsInterpretation'', Johanna is called ''ma'am'' by respectful Caltech students. She isn't sure if she likes it or not and it reminds her she's just turned thirty. She wonders how soon her own students in Ankh-Morpork will promote her to one. |
| 102 | ** In [[Fanfic/ThePriceOfFlight another fic]] by the same author, [[AcePilot Olga Romanoff]], a woman who determinedly resisted promotion in the Air Watch but, via Vetinari's machinations, ends up commanding the nearest thing Ankh-Morpork has to an Air Force, leads her command into war. Olga, who has fond memories of having been an ordinary Air Policewoman with few special responsibilities, discovers as the MildlyMilitary Air Watch becomes a fully martial combat Air Force, that the pilots under her command default to calling her ''ma'am'' using the accepted military honorific. Olga reflects she is still only in her early twenties, but suddenly feels old. |
| 103 | * In the ''Fanfic/AlternateTailSeries'', Pantherlily isn't fond of being called hold (not helped that he's almost 200 years old). When Asuka innocently calls him "Lily-jii" (since he's older than Fairy Tail's Master/father-figure/grandfather-figure) he almost falls into HeroicBSOD. |
| 104 | * ''Fanfic/BlackCrayons'' series: Just like in ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'', Charlotte Mearing does not like being called "ma'am". [[DidYouJustFlipOffCthulhu Mikaela Banes points out how nonsensical this is as Mearing is an unmarried woman]]. |
| 105 | --> '''Mearing:''' You are not a soldier. You are a messenger. You've always been a messenger.\ |
| 106 | '''Mikaela:''' [[SarcasmMode Well, thanks for listening so well. After all, any important information about the Decepticons must be taken serious since it could be vital, and not immediately ignored because it was brought by someone who isn't in your chain of command. Have a nice night,]] ''[[SarcasmMode ma'am]]''.\ |
| 107 | '''Mearing:''' Don't call me 'ma'am.' I am…\ |
| 108 | '''Mikaela:''' Yes, you are a 'ma'am.' You're a woman, you're not married, so you're a 'ma'am.' Get used to it. (turns to leave with Sam)\ |
| 109 | '''Sam:''' (once he and Mikaela are out of earshot) That was so hot, 'Kaela. You can fight my battles anytime you like.\ |
| 110 | '''Mikaela:''' I'll remember that. |
| 111 | * Hermione's father in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10669760/8/Don-t-look-back-in-Anger Don't Look Back in Anger]]'': |
| 112 | -->'''Daniel Granger:''' Harry, call me Dan. This Mister Granger crap makes me feel old. |
| 113 | * In ''Fanfic/DoYouBelieveInFairies'', Mira prefers her adult nephew Julius to refer to her by her name instead of "Auntie". |
| 114 | * ''Fanfic/HarrysNewHome'' has Sirius being [[ComicalOverreacting horrified]] when Harry calls him Mr. Black and sir when they first meet after Sirius was exonerated. Snape calls him out on it, pointing out that Harry was simply being polite because he didn't know him. |
| 115 | * A rare inversion in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5362570/1/KK1-Kid-Keitaro Kid Keitaro]]''. At the beginning of the story, the 8-year-old Keitaro calls his aunt Haruka nee-san(Older sister), only for Haruka to give him a light DopeSlap and tell him to call her "Aunty". |
| 116 | * A variant in ''Fanfic/LittleRitsukaAndHerLovingFamily'' where Ritsuka (here Shirou and Rin's daughter from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'') calls 10-years-old Illyasviel from ''Manga/FateKaleidLinerPrismaIllya'' Auntie since in Ritsuka's timeline, Illya is her father's older adoptive sister. Illya, understandably, is shocked to be called this. |
| 117 | * ''Fanfic/LimitlessPotential'': During an argument over which of the two is supposed to be the "older" sibling, X makes Roll angry when he suggests that she may be called an "old woman". She retaliates giving him the reploid equivalent of an EarAche. |
| 118 | * ''[[Fanfic/OrDidItEatTheLittleGirl let's go out with a bang!]]'': Junko reacts this way when called 'Ma'am', declaring that she's not forty, but ''nineteen''... maybe. Spending so much time in VR simulations [[NotAllowedToGrowUp has done a real number on her aging]]. |
| 119 | * Near the end of ''Fanfic/OneYear'', after [[VideoGame/Persona4 Yukiko]] starts calling Rise [[UsefulNotes/JapaneseHonorifics "-san" rather than "-chan,"]] partly because Rise's almost an adult, Rise jokes that she'd rather not be called "ma'am" just yet since she's still younger than Yukiko. Yukiko then replies, "Duly noted, ma'am," and the two friends share a laugh. |
| 120 | * ''Our Own League'' series: |
| 121 | ** In ''Teen Titans: Together for Tomorrow'', [[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] is aghast when Conner first calls her "Auntie". In line with this trope, it's more because she's (physically) only two years his senior than actually his first cousin once removed. |
| 122 | ** Done preemptively in ''Teen Titans: Witch-Hunt''; When Circe reveals [[ComicBook/WonderGirl Donna]] is [[spoiler:the granddaughter of the Goddess Hecate, and therefore Circe's niece]], the sorceress stresses that she wants Donna to think of her as a sister while the girl is still trying to wrap her head around this. |
| 123 | * Tsunade shoots Shizune a DeathGlare when she teasingly refers to her as "grandma" while talking to her infant son in ''Fanfic/SonOfTheSannin''. The narration notes that if anyone else called her that she'd "shatter every bone in their bodies without mercy". |
| 124 | * In ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/2549801/chapters/5716469 The Stark Truth]]'' after Harry calls Tony "sir" Tony asks him to check for gray hairs. |
| 125 | -->'''Tony:''' You see, it starts off with everyone calling you sir, then you start to get grey hairs, and then before you know it, you're walking around with your nose stuck up in the air, and a stick shoved up your ass. All of a sudden people expect you to act all grown up and be all bossy like. I just narrowly escaped the conference with my beautiful hair still black and greyless. I'm telling you, kid, it's a plague and I'm begging you to never call me that cursed word again. |
| 126 | * ''WebAnimation/TurnaboutStorm'' plays with this by making both the "ma'am" and the shock come from the same guy, [[LargeHam Cruise Control]], even when the receiver didn't mind it at all. [[TalkingToThemself He calls himself out]] for it [[NoIndoorVoice very loudly]]. |
| 127 | -->'''Cruise:''' That's like saying she's old! Didn't mom tell you "NEVER ask a lady her age"!? '''''[[ComicalOverreacting That's just rude you bloody idiot!]]''''' |
| 128 | [[/folder]] |
| 129 | |
| 130 | [[folder:Films — Animation]] |
| 131 | * Gender flipped, with the StockPhrase reply: [[SurferDude Crush the Turtle]] of ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''. Of course, he's "150, dude, and still young!" |
| 132 | * A variant in ''WesternAnimation/RugratsGoWild:'' |
| 133 | -->'''Angelica:''' HEY, LADY!\ |
| 134 | '''Debbie:''' Who's calling me a lady? I'm a teen! |
| 135 | [[/folder]] |
| 136 | |
| 137 | [[folder:Films — Live-Action]] |
| 138 | * In ''Film/{{Dodsworth}}'', Fran, a middle-aged woman who is trying to hang on to her youth, is happy enough that her daughter has given birth -- until her husband calls her a grandmother. She's horrified, and after that, she doesn't even want to tell anyone about the baby. |
| 139 | * Kelly, in ''Film/LakePlacid'', having been called "Ma'am" by various officials, finally snaps and tells them if they call her "Ma'am" one more time she'll sue, and in this day and age, she'll probably win. The officials roll their eyes, but do stop calling her "Ma'am". |
| 140 | * In ''Film/LoganLucky'', the nurse in the prison infirmary gets offended when Joe calls her "ma'am": |
| 141 | -->''Ma'am?! A minute ago I was "Miss"!'' |
| 142 | * ''Film/{{Mermaids|1990}}'': Mrs. Flax seems deeply offended when the 26-year-old handyman she was flirting with called her "ma'am". This handyman would end up having a fling with Mrs. Flax's daughter Charlotte. |
| 143 | * A variant in ''Film/{{Speed}}'': near the beginning of the film Jack repeatedly addresses Annie as "ma'am", until she insists on being called by her first name. |
| 144 | * Charlotte Mearing in ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'' hates being called "ma'am". Carly, being British, doesn't understand what is the big deal and simply points out that, since Mearing is a woman, "ma'am" is appropriate. Except, from her time at the British embassy to the US, Carly should know the social faux pas in the States. |
| 145 | * ''Film/WildTales'': The male equivalent happens in "Pasternak" with the music critic saying that he felt like he was in the fifth circle of Hell when the model addressed him as 'sir'. He blames it on his receding hairline making him look older than he is. |
| 146 | [[/folder]] |
| 147 | |
| 148 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 149 | * Early in ''[[Literature/AuntDimity Aunt Dimity and the Duke]]'', Emma is addressed as "ma'am" several times by a young man on staff at Bransley Manor, the first stop on her planned garden tour. She's making the trip to Cornwall alone, since her companion of fifteen years has just married a younger woman, leaving her a single and (self-described) frumpy forty-year-old woman. |
| 150 | -->It was the constantly reiterated "ma'am" that did it. He might as well call me "Granny," Emma thought. |
| 151 | * ''Literature/IveBeenKillingSlimesFor300YearsAndMaxedOutMyLevel'': |
| 152 | ** Azusa spends a few minutes experiencing ColorFailure, and a few more expressing heavy denial, after hearing Falfa call her "mama" and clarify that she seriously means that Azusa is her and Shalsha's mother since she has no memory of bearing children—or even having romantic relationships—for two whole lives, and it makes her feel really old. It takes a while after learning both this and the fact they were "born" from her constant slime killing to accept her status as a mother. |
| 153 | ** In Beelzebub's spinoff, Beelzebub reacts poorly to being called "ma'am". |
| 154 | --->'''Vania:''' "Mornin', ma'am!"\ |
| 155 | '''Beelzebub:''' "Vania, every time you say that to me, the hatred toward you within me grows. I hope you are prepared for the consequences..." |
| 156 | * In Turkish there's actually a poem about this phenomenon, though gender-inverted. Attributed to the (semi-legendary) 17th-century folk poet Karacaoglan, it's called "A Girl Has Called Me Uncle, Oh Woe Is Me" [[labelnote:Turkish]] "Bir Kız Bana Emmi Dedi Neyleyim" [[/labelnote]]. Similar to the other languages listed below, in Turkish the words "uncle" and "aunt" may be used as an informal but respectful way of addressing people who are much older than the speaker. [[note]]Small children may call anybody "uncle" or "aunt" who seems about the same age as their parents, but from adolescence on it's usually only acceptable to address people in the "senior citizen" range this way (with a few exceptions like friends of the family or parents of one's schoolmates).[[/note]] The poem is about the speaker's (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) shock and horror at being called this way by a random girl of fifteen. There are romantic/sexual undertones to his dismay as well, as the Karacaoglan persona is supposed to be a ladies' man and a 15-year-old is supposed to be of marriageable age by 17th century standards. |
| 157 | * From the second ''Literature/RainOfTheGhosts:'' |
| 158 | -->''"You're Miranda Guerrero?" \ |
| 159 | "Yes, ma'am."\ |
| 160 | Claire Beachum winced; she was only twenty-eight and didn't particularly like being ma'amed. "Mrs. Beachum will be fine."'' |
| 161 | [[/folder]] |
| 162 | |
| 163 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 164 | !!!'''Creators:''' |
| 165 | * Brazilian host Xuxa, back when she still only worked in kids' shows, once [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyxIYGx-FIY was clearly shocked at a boy saying he'd send a kiss to "you, ma'am."]] Once rediscovered by the internet, the clip reached MemeticMutation. |
| 166 | !!!'''Series:''' |
| 167 | * One episode of ''Series/AbsolutelyFabulous'' has Patsy repeatedly being referred to as Madame, and she responds indignantly with ''Madamoiselle'' each time. |
| 168 | * ''Series/AmericanHousewife'': A guy who once called Katie ma'am makes her list of "worst people ever". |
| 169 | * On ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' episode "The Valentino Submergence", Leonard and Penny are waiting for a table at a restaurant on Valentine's Day. Penny tries to flirt with the Maître D', but when he calls her "Ma'am", she drags Leonard away in a huff. |
| 170 | * In the ''Series/BroadCity'' episode "Sliding Doors," Ilana calls Abbi "ma'am" shortly after their first meeting, which she finds offputting enough that they end up spending the day apart. |
| 171 | * ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'': |
| 172 | ** Giles addresses Ms. Calendar; she breezily replies [[TheyCallMeMisterTibbs "Please, call me Jenny - Ms. Calendar's my father."]]. Though as she's a teacher, she's used to being called 'Miss Calendar', and would rather be on FirstNameBasis with Giles since they're interested in each other. |
| 173 | ** Also, mistaking Buffy for Dawn's mother is an easy way to freak Buffy out. Buffy is her PromotedToParent sister. |
| 174 | ** The season 8 comics have a different take on it. |
| 175 | --->'''Satsu:''' I'm not following your orders. Not this time. I'll see you on the battlefield. ''Ma'am.''\ |
| 176 | '''Buffy:''' ...''[{{beat panel}}]'' ...I can't believe I find it sexy when she calls me "ma'am"! |
| 177 | * ''Series/{{Charmed|1998}}'' had an episode about Paige being insulted by a student who called her Ma'am. And then the episode's plot involves an OvernightAgeUp, and her sisters find her as an old woman and... |
| 178 | --> "Well, ''now'' I'm a ma'am." |
| 179 | * In Woody's first episode on ''Series/{{Cheers}}'', he addresses Carla as "ma'am" on meeting her: |
| 180 | -->'''Carla:''' "Ma'am"? What's that supposed to mean?\ |
| 181 | '''Woody:''' I believe it's a term of respect.\ |
| 182 | '''Carla:''' No wonder it sounded so weird. |
| 183 | * One RunningGag in ''Series/ElChavoDelOcho'' involving Doña Cleotilde (aka la Bruja del 71), is that she doesn't like being addressed as "señora" and insists on being called "señorita". This carries a double meaning since in Spanish, the terms can refer to either age or marital status, and Doña Cleotilde insists on "señorita" because she's unmarried. |
| 184 | * ''Series/CSIMiami'' subverts this in a fun way. Since Florida police are reportedly required to address any female who looks like they could be at least thirteen as "Ma'am", we often get to see Horatio earnestly "Yes, Ma'am"-ing young girls. |
| 185 | * ''Series/DoctorWho'': |
| 186 | ** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E3PlanetOfTheOod "Planet of the Ood"]]: Inverted when an Ood addresses companion Donna as "miss". She immediately snaps back, "Why'd you call me miss? Do I look single?" (Never mind that she ''is''.) |
| 187 | ** [[Recap/DoctorWhoS37E1TheWomanWhoFellToEarth "The Woman Who Fell to Earth"]] has a decidedly different take on this trope than usual, thanks to the recent [[TheNthDoctor regeneration]] of the Twelfth Doctor to the Thirteenth: |
| 188 | --->'''Yaz:''' Hold on there, madam, I need you to do as I say. This could be a potential cri–\ |
| 189 | '''The Doctor:''' Why are you calling me "madam"?\ |
| 190 | '''Yaz:''' ...because you're a woman?\ |
| 191 | '''The Doctor:''' Am I? Does it suit me?\ |
| 192 | '''Yaz:''' ...what?\ |
| 193 | '''The Doctor:''' Oh yeah... I remember! Sorry. Half an hour ago, I was [[Creator/PeterCapaldi a white-haired Scotsman]]. |
| 194 | ** The Thirteenth Doctor does it again in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS37E3Rosa "Rosa"]], when she is addressed as "ma'am" by a police officer: |
| 195 | --->'''The Doctor:''' Ma'am. Still can't get used to that. |
| 196 | * In ''Series/TheFlash2014'' episode "[[Recap/TheFlash2014S4E5GirlsNightOut Girls Night Out]]", as Amunet is [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomping]] Killer Frost, a patrol car drives up, and two police officers step out, asking Amunet if everything is alright, calling her "ma'am". She turns out, clearly annoyed at the interruption, and asks why they thought her outfit gave them the idea that she likes to be called "ma'am". Then she kills them. |
| 197 | * ''Series/{{Frasier}}'': In the GrandFinale, Martin and his new wife Ronee come to visit Niles and Daphne and their new baby. Ronee, who's a few decades younger than Martin, ends up doing this to herself when meeting the baby. |
| 198 | -->'''Martin:''' Hey, David, remember me? I'm your grandpa!\ |
| 199 | '''Ronee:''' Yes, and I'm your gra-...sorry, I just can't say it yet. |
| 200 | * ''Series/FullHouse'': |
| 201 | ** Subverted as Stephanie cites being called "ma'am" by a cashier as proof that she's old enough to have her ears pierced. |
| 202 | ** Played straight in the episode "Come Fly with Me", when Stephanie complains about her summer having been boring. When it's pointed out that she went to summer camp, she retorts that it was just day camp; "I was the oldest kid there. The other kids called me 'Ma'am'." |
| 203 | * Penny in ''Series/HappyEndings'', as seen in the page quote. Happens a few other times, though not to that extreme. |
| 204 | * In an episode of ''Series/HermansHead'' Heddy, a twentysomething woman who ReallyGetsAround, plans to seduce a fourteen-year-old boy, reasoning that he is at his sexual peak. She is put off from this by his calling her "Ma'am". |
| 205 | * ''Series/HoneyIShrunkTheKids'' (yes, there was a TV show, and it was far better than it had any right to be): Diane is sold on a spa treatment when a man (actually working with the saleswoman) knocks into her and addresses her as "miss," until he sees her properly and calls her "ma'am." This causes Diane to become completely obsessed with remaining young and beautiful, becoming the MonsterOfTheWeek, which was pretty par the course for that show. |
| 206 | * In the ''Series/ICarly2021'' pilot episode "iStart Over", Carly said she panic-bought the anti-aging products she's advertising on the new iCarly because a guy at the 7-11 called her "ma'am". |
| 207 | * ''Series/InterviewWithTheVampire2022'': In "[[Recap/InterviewWithTheVampire2022S1E2AfterThePhantomsOfYourFormerSelf ...After the Phantoms of Your Former Self]]", Grace is stunned when her older brother Louis addresses her as "ma'am." |
| 208 | -->'''Grace''': Did you even meet the twins?\ |
| 209 | '''Louis''': No, ma'am.\ |
| 210 | '''Grace''': Ma'am? I look that old to you? |
| 211 | * Played and kind of parodied in the Colombian SoapOpera ''Series/LasJuanas'', when the main heroine, in front of an older woman she hasn't introduced yet, and not knowing what to call her, decides to call her "Doña" (the Spanish equivalent of "Ma'am") and the older lady becomes enraged. The heroine thinks that she has offended her in the spirit of this trope, but then the lady shouts something in the vein of "How did you know my name, and why do you talk to me with such disrespect?". Turns out that the lady is ''really named'' Doña, so the correct way to address her is Doña Doña. And the joke is brought up several times more. |
| 212 | * ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'' had an episode titled "Today I am a Ma'am" where the thirty-year-old Mary is despondent over no longer being part of the station's youth demographic. |
| 213 | * ''Series/{{NCIS}}'': Ziva has demonstrated on multiple occasions that she dislikes being called ma'am. Even dirtbag is preferable, though it will still get your ass laid out, as one hapless security guard learned the hard way. |
| 214 | * ''Series/OnceUponATime'' has a gag in an episode where Belle, who is dating Henry's grandfather, points out through clenched teeth that Henry can just call her Belle as opposed to grandma. |
| 215 | * ''Series/{{Player}}'' has the Korean equivalent: Ha-ri takes offense when A-ryeong calls him "ahjussi" (term of respect for an older man). |
| 216 | * In the ''Series/{{Selfie}}'' episode "Nugget of Wisdom", Freddy implies that he's the [[YoungerAndHipper younger, hipper, gummier]] version of Henry (who is a little older than junior employees like Freddy and Eliza), as a child vitamin Henry worked on is about to be phased out. |
| 217 | -->'''Freddy:''' But sometimes old trees gotta get cut down so new ones can grow. Right, Father Time?\ |
| 218 | '''Henry:''' Who's Father Time? ''I'm'' Father Time? |
| 219 | * ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'': |
| 220 | ** It did not only this but a GenderFlip with J.D. being called "sir". |
| 221 | ** Played straight by Jordan, to the point where she gets so many Botox injections that she can barely talk. |
| 222 | * ''Series/TheSingleGuy:'' After being addressed by the hated word, Janeane gets a tattoo to prove she's still young and cool. |
| 223 | * In the pilot episode of ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', Harry Kim, spit-shined, fresh-faced ensign, meets Captain Janeway for the first time: |
| 224 | -->'''Janeway:''' Come in. Gentlemen, welcome aboard Voyager.\ |
| 225 | '''Kim:''' Thank you, sir.\ |
| 226 | '''Janeway:''' Mister Kim, at ease before you sprain something. Ensign, despite Starfleet protocol, I don't like being addressed as "sir".\ |
| 227 | '''Kim:''' I'm sorry... ma'am?\ |
| 228 | '''Janeway:''' Ma'am is acceptable in a crunch, but I prefer "Captain". |
| 229 | ** Of course, Tom calls her "ma'am" at every opportunity for the rest of the seven years. And Q calls her either "Madame Capitaine" or "Kathy" depending on his mood. |
| 230 | * ''Series/Titans2018''. Donna Troy is startled when Tim Drake calls her "ma'am" and doesn't like it as well when he switches to "Miss Troy". In fairness, [[KidHeroAllGrownUp it's been a while since she called herself Wonder Girl]]. |
| 231 | * ''Series/VeronicaMars'' is astonished when a young mugger she has just apprehended calls her "lady". Although her big dog may have had something to do with it. Oddly enough, series star Kristen Bell seemed to have the opposite problem in RealLife due to her petite, youthful appearance. She relates some of her problems with getting carded during a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nib206OWwig 2004 appearance]] on ''Series/TheLateLateShow'', which leads to guest host Creator/SaraRue describing the regular version of the trope happening to her. |
| 232 | * A by-proxy example in ''Series/TheWestWing'' - Josh is amused when Charlie addresses Zoe - the President's 'teenage' daughter - as "ma'am". A straight example sees Helen Santos (First Lady-elect) nonplussed to receive her first "ma'am" from Donna. |
| 233 | * In one episode of ''Series/WillAndGrace'', Grace tells a client about how horrible her life is becoming, including an unfortunate incident that day when she was buying wrinkle cream at Bloomingdales. [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope It’s all for show]]; she’s trying to get the client to sign a better deal out of embarrassment, and it works.]] |
| 234 | -->'''Grace:''' ...and this [[Creator/JenniferLoveHewitt Jennifer-Love]]-[[Creator/SarahMichelleGellar Sarah-Michelle]]-Series/{{Felicity}}-looking ''thing'' bumps into me and says, "Excuse me... ''ma'am''"! |
| 235 | * ''Series/{{Wings}}'': When Joe dates a nineteen-year-old, Helen and Alex become so insecure about their age that when a delivery boy addresses Helen as "Ma'am", they both berate him, demanding to be called "babe", "kitten", or "cupcake". |
| 236 | -->'''Helen:''' So if you know what's good for you, we're going to walk away and you better look at our butts the ''whole'' time. |
| 237 | [[/folder]] |
| 238 | |
| 239 | [[folder:Radio]] |
| 240 | * In the ''Radio/{{Ability}}'' episode "V.D.P. Experience", Jess is wondering if spending her 27th birthday at a music festival was a good idea (having already been chatted up by an 18-year-old who "likes older women") when a security guard approaches her. |
| 241 | -->'''Guard''': Excuse me, madam, I think you dropped your cardigan.\ |
| 242 | '''Jess''': Madam? ''Madam''? Right, that's it, we need to get out of this bloody creche of a festival, ''now''. And it's not a cardigan, it's a kaftan! |
| 243 | [[/folder]] |
| 244 | |
| 245 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 246 | * In ''VideoGame/Bayonetta2'', the title character is called ma'am in her first meeting with [[MouthyKid Loki]]. Cue an annoyed "Do I look like a ma'am to you!?". |
| 247 | * ''VideoGame/BravelyDefault'' has a male variant with Ringabel, who is rendered nearly speechless when a pair of girls address him as "mister". In the original Japanese, he was called "Ojiichan", which means either grandpa or uncle. |
| 248 | * Male example: In ''VideoGame/DragonQuestV'', two children call you and your companion "Mister", which in party chat is very distressing to Prince Harry who doesn't think he should yet qualify. |
| 249 | * ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'': |
| 250 | ** In the crossover event with ''VideoGame/FateExtra CCC'', corrupt nun Kiara invites you to join her sex cult. You can decline because she's evil, or because you're not into older women. |
| 251 | --->'''Kiara:''' Wha...! Of all the things you could say, you state something so groundless?! |
| 252 | ** Revisited in the Summer 2020 event when Swimsuit Kiara is revealed and you mistake her for [[spoiler:Sesshouin Lily]]'s mother. |
| 253 | ** In ''Prisma Illya'' crossover, you can call Medb "Magical College Student Medb" instead of magical girl like the other antagonist (especially egregious because one of the enemies is Helena, [[OlderThanSheLooks who is significantly older than anyone]]). She, being who she is, gets offended when she notices this. |
| 254 | ** The Caster of Okeanos [[spoiler:aka the witch Circe]] usually has to deal with being OlderThanSheLooks, but when her niece [[spoiler:Medea]] and her nephew [[spoiler:Asterios/the Minotaur]] call her "auntie" she immediately tells them to not say that out in public. The latter does it because he honestly doesn't see what she's worried about, the former ''does'' know but [[TheGadfly just likes getting a rise out of her]]. |
| 255 | ** The fandom also [[MemeticMutation humorously]] attributes this behavior to [[TimeAbyss Scathach]], by mentioning her age and pretending to get KilledMidSentence. Became an AscendedMeme with the recent update for Cu Chulainn (Caster), as his new line for Scathach is teasing her for her age and ending with a panicked "I didn't mean it, please don't kick that spear-" |
| 256 | * In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', when Elise meets her older brother Leo's son, Forrest, the two get along well, but Elise eventually insists that Forrest not call her "Aunt Elise"- considering how [[YearInsideHourOutside the Deeprealms, where Forrest was raised, work]], Forrest may actually be older than Elise. |
| 257 | * ''VideoGame/GenshinImpact'''s Faruzan is an inversion. Referring to her as "Madam" is recommended to Akademiya students seeking her help, as she reacts favorably to being called so. Conversely, expressing surprise at her [[OlderThanTheyLook youthful appearance]] will [[BerserkButton earn you a fierce lecture]]. |
| 258 | * In ''VideoGame/IllusionOfGaia'', when Will is getting hauled off by the King's soldiers for not giving him the Crystal Ring ([[ButThouMust which happens regardless of what you choose]]), he calls out to the queen "Ma'am! Save me!!", prompting the queen to say "Did you say Ma'am??!" It's unclear whether she's complaining about the reference to her age or Will not calling her "Your Majesty," though. |
| 259 | * Palutena [[BerserkButton is not happy]] when Phosphora calls her this in ''VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising''. Pit then pipes in and states, while they're at it, that he doesn't mind being called "sir". |
| 260 | * In ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters Maximum Impact'', Rock Howard accidentally pisses off Mai Shiranui by doing this. He was trying to be respectful, and even familial; since Rock is HappilyAdopted by Terry Bogard and Mai is engaged to Terry's brother Andy, she ''is'' technically his aunt. Obviously though, Mai didn't see it that way. |
| 261 | * In ''VideoGame/LoveAndPies'': Amelia's Great Aunt Esme hates being called a great aunt, and she'll sic her pet turtle Randy on anyone who addresses her as such. |
| 262 | * ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]]'' have this occur when Wally apologizes for bumping into the admins of the opposing version's enemy team at the Battle Resort, addressing them as "sir" and "ma'am" in the process. Team Aqua's Shelly and Team Magma's Courtney are both incensed at this, while Tabitha of the latter provides a male example. Aqua Admin Matt is the only one who isn't fazed. |
| 263 | * A Male variant in ''VideoGame/{{Shadowverse}}'' -- Marlone Median is clearly shocked when Luna refers to him as an "old man". |
| 264 | * ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'': Sialeeds Falenas does not react well to being called the prince's "old auntie", pointing out that she's only 25. |
| 265 | * ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsT'': Sagiri Sakurai really does not like being called an 'old woman' by a 10-year-old boy, which caused her to have a meltdown mentioning that she got co-workers with children in elementary school-age [[{{Spinster}} while she hasn't even married.]] She's fine being called 'ma'am' by Rami, though, as it was meant to show senior-junior working relationship (She's called 'senpai' in Japanese rather than 'oba-san'). |
| 266 | * [[Literature/KingOfKingsGaogaigarVSBetterman Mamoru Amani]] gets some LaserGuidedKarma in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars30'' when a mission has him meeting [[Anime/BravePoliceJDecker Yuuta Tomonaga]]. Yuuta is every bit was sweet and innocent as Mamoru was [[Anime/GaoGaiGar when he was that age]](see the Anime section). History repeats. |
| 267 | [[/folder]] |
| 268 | |
| 269 | [[folder:Visual Novels]] |
| 270 | * ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney's'' Mia Fey gets distressed when called Madame Fey in her first case. The witness, a younger woman, takes note of this and uses it to annoy her. |
| 271 | -->'''Mia Fey:''' I'm only 24. That's not old! |
| 272 | * In ''VisualNovel/CafeEnchante'', Rindo is aware that he is in his forties but he still does not like when the non-human café patrons, some who have already lived for hundreds of years, refer to him as "old man" or "old". |
| 273 | * In ''VisualNovel/CollarXMalice'', Yanagi, who is 28 years old, doesn't like being called the "father" of the detective agency, even if he is the most mature and responsible out of the group. In his route, he is dismayed when a little girl refers to him as "Uncle", though he understands that at her age, she probably sees anyone in their twenties as old. |
| 274 | * In ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'', Sae Saionji, the art curator, doesn't like being called "Mrs. Saionji", [[spoiler:despite having once been married]] because it makes her sound old and instead requests to be addressed by her first name. |
| 275 | [[/folder]] |
| 276 | |
| 277 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 278 | * Zeta Vincent of ''Webcomic/{{Narbonic}}'' once said that she was "much more freaked out by being called 'ma'am'" than by the rogue mad-scientific experiments rampaging through the room at the time. |
| 279 | * ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Haley takes more exception from Samantha calling her "old woman" than from [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0168.html the lightning bolt she took in the face.]] |
| 280 | -->'''Haley:''' I'm not old! I'm 24! That's not old! Twenty! Four! |
| 281 | * Used in ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'', when Robin is elected to Congress after a sugar rush induced blackout: |
| 282 | -->'''Robin:''' I didn't know I was old enough to ''be'' in Congress!\ |
| 283 | '''Assistant:''' You have to be 25, ma'am.\ |
| 284 | '''Robin:''' Please don't call me "ma'am". |
| 285 | [[/folder]] |
| 286 | |
| 287 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 288 | * ''WebAnimation/MangaSoprano'': Female antagonists have this reaction whenever the FMC's kids call her "[[ObaSan auntie]]". Sometimes, she tries to correct them have them calling her "sister" (onee-san) instead. |
| 289 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJs54dPrXI "My sister, who thinks she is the most beautiful person in the world, plundered my fiancé"]]: When Natsuko approaches her nephews Karin and Casino after playing with a man in the street, the latter of the siblings calls her "auntie", to which Natsuko is appalled and asks him to call her "sister". |
| 290 | ** [[https://youtu.be/xFJ6SfeLCaY "My Sister Robbed My Fiancee! However, the person who looted it was…"]]: Onpu sees Burimi grinning and calls her "aunt" while asking her what she was planning. She tries to deflect the situation before going ballistic on the girl for calling her "aunt". However, Onpu doesn't back down and retaliates much to Kanade's dismay. |
| 291 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afVynAwD87o "My sister trying to piggyback on my wedding anniversary dinner and get sushi at.."]] [sic] stars a rare example where the FMC reacts like this. When Ram's sister Rei comes over with her two daughters Kaho and Shiho, they call Ram "auntie", to which she takes offense. When Ram refused to let Rei stay, the brats doubled down and called her "ogre aunt". |
| 292 | |
| 293 | * Shown in [[http://notalwaysright.com/beauty-is-in-the-eye-of-the-bag-holder/8747 this]] ''Website/NotAlwaysRight'' story. Notably, the woman in question has this reaction to both "ma'am" ''and'' "miss". |
| 294 | * Brazilian web series UTC, centering around two people reading [[SoUnfunnyItsFunny "jokes"]] until someone laughs, once had a contestant losing because she didn't react well to being called "ma'am" and cracked up ("ma'am your ass"...). |
| 295 | [[/folder]] |
| 296 | |
| 297 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 298 | * On ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}},'' a minor character named Robert has the odd habit of calling girls his own age "ma'am," something that Daria at least does not seem to appreciate. |
| 299 | * While the ''exact'' age of Sheryl Goodspeed from ''WesternAnimation/FinalSpace'' [[VagueAge isn't known]], she can safely be assumed to be in her late 50s/early 60s at the youngest. She's still a hypercompetent badass, but when [[spoiler:Little Cato playfully calls her "Grandma S." on the grounds that, because [[TheHero Gary]] adopted him, Sheryl is now technically his grandmother by adoption]], she's obviously annoyed at being called "[[spoiler:Grandma]]". |
| 300 | * In a Halloween episode of ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'', Kim argues that she and Ron are too old to go trick-or-treating, as "last year, some kid called [her] ma'am". |
| 301 | * ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': |
| 302 | ** Miz Liz (who recently caught her husband cheating with a younger woman) is having lunch with Hank when a waiter calls her "ma'am" as he leaves to get their food. She comments "I can remember--barely--when waiters didn't call me 'ma'am,'" then breaks down crying, which leaves Hank feeling very awkward. |
| 303 | ** In another episode Hank's driver's license is misprinted to say that he's "Female." While he's trying to get it fixed the DMV worker calls him "ma'am" as if actually confused about his gender. Hank blows a gasket. |
| 304 | ** In another episode Buck Strickland (Miz Liz's lech of a husband) takes one of his many mistresses out for drinks. The outing winds up depressing him once the bartender asks what his granddaughter would like to drink. |
| 305 | * When ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse'' got flustered and nervous, he would sometimes call someone "Ma'am" - Peg Leg Pete didn't take it well. |
| 306 | * On ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw,'' a kid from Milo's school says "Thanks, ma'am" when [[TimePolice Savannah]] saves him from falling in a hole. |
| 307 | -->'''Savannah:''' Ma'am? ''(uses a "Guess My Age" app on her phone, which registers "Ma'am--39")'' |
| 308 | ** RareMaleExample with Neal, whom everyone always refers to as "Neal from the comic shop." Note that all of these characters are teenagers. |
| 309 | -->'''Zack:''' Yeah, Mr. From the Comic Shop, sir.\ |
| 310 | '''Neal:''' Heh, okay, I'm only two years older than you.\ |
| 311 | '''Zack:''' Whatever you say, old man. |
| 312 | * In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010,'' Helga Jace mentions that this happened during a job interview, though she seems more amused than upset. |
| 313 | -->'''Helga:''' I'm only thirty-four! Is that when you become a "ma'am?"\ |
| 314 | '''[[ComicBook/BlackLightning Jefferson]]:''' Oh, am I not touching that one.\ |
| 315 | '''Helga:''' Kids today. |
| 316 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries'', "Keeper of the Spire", Cassandra is called "mom" and she angrily retorts she is only four years older than Rapunzel. Also a DevelopmentGag as Cassandra was based on an old design of Rapunzel's mother. |
| 317 | [[/folder]] |
| 318 | |
| 319 | [[folder:Real Life]] |
| 320 | * A Finnish equivalent of this is to be called ''täti'' by a child or a parent talking to their child. (Literally "aunt", but in this context, it is used to refer to women a child is not acquainted with). Younger women are usually just called "girl." This affects a much younger age group than "ma'am", however, as ''täti'' is usually used to refer to women one does not classify as children. This means a four-year-old might call thirteen-year-olds this, while their parents will usually reserve the term for those who look at least twenty. It's still a bit of a shock to some to be called ''täti'' by an adult talking to their child. |
| 321 | ** The same applies to ''setä'' (literally "uncle"). |
| 322 | ** Brazilian Portuguese has a similar thing with childrenearly teens calling older people "uncle" ("tio") or "aunt" ("tia"), which might be bothersome to those who deem themselves too young to have nephews. |
| 323 | * A version of this is used in Tagalog: A woman only a few years older than you would be called ''ate'' (with their name if you know them), which translates to "big sister." Similarly, a slightly-older man would be called ''kuya'' (big brother). You in turn would be called ''anak'' (gender-neutral for child). Even if the person is considerably older, you would still call them ''kuya'' or ''ate'' unless they look visibly old enough to be your parent -- at which you'd call them ''nanay'' or ''tatay'' (Mother or Father, respectively) or ''tito'' or ''tita'' (uncle or aunt). There seems to be considerably less stigma compared to the American counterparts, though. The English terms "sir" and "ma'am" themselves are considered safe and neutral default address in most situations. |
| 324 | * In China, those a few years older than you will be called "jie" (older sister) or "ge" (older brother) unless names are used. Those considered old enough to be your parents will be called "ah yi" (aunt) or "shu shu" (uncle), and those old enough to be your grandparents are called "nai nai" (grandmother) or "ye ye" (grandfather). |
| 325 | ** Which is more or less where oba-san, obaa-san, and onee-san would fit on this list. |
| 326 | ** It's the same in the Korean language with ahjumma (aunt) and ahjusshi (uncle) being used for older adults. |
| 327 | ** Mix with SeparatedByACommonLanguage: 小姐 is the equivalent of Ms in Taiwan, used to refer to prostitutes in China, and can be either depending on context in Hong Kong. 女士 is always polite, but it is nebulous in whether it is the equivalent of "Ms", "Madam", or "Lady". 太太 on the other hand is closer to "Mrs" and ''definitely'' implies an older woman. |
| 328 | * TruthInTelevision: In June 2009, a Brigadier General speaking before the United States Senate called Senator Barbara Boxer "ma'am", to which Boxer took offense and insisted he call her "Senator." Critics quickly pointed out that "Ma'am" is the correct address for a woman higher up the chain of command, and said that Boxer was needlessly overreacting. This despite the fact that the [[http://www.usapa.army.mil/pdffiles/p600%5F60.pdf Military etiquette]] guidelines clearly state that Senators are to be addressed as such. Indeed, it specifically adds the line, "When the senator is a woman: Use Senator," likely for just such a scenario. Also, never mind the fact that although Congress is responsible for handing out commissions and a candidate for any level of general generally has to get Senate approval before getting his/her star, Senators aren't really in the chain of command: that goes exclusively up through the Executive Branch (from the Departments of the Navy/Army/Air Force and the Unified Combatant Commanders to the Secretary of Defense and then the President). |
| 329 | ** Newly-minted [[SemperFi Marines]] fresh out of [[TrainingFromHell boot camp]], having just spent the last three months being conditioned to call ''[[InsistentTerminology every]]'' civilian female "ma'am", regardless of age, will invariably [[InvokedTrope invoke]] this trope on females FAR sooner than they would typically expect, at least until they can shake some of the more ridiculous aspects of recruit life. |
| 330 | * The Russian equivalent is ''zhenschina'' (lit. woman) instead of ''devushka'' (lit. girl). Though it's polite to call middle-aged women "devushka", when younger, thirty years old women are called "zhenschina" it's twice the shock. |
| 331 | * In Bulgarian it's appropriate to address women as "Miss" when their apparent age is below 30, and as "Mrs." when above. Upon mistake, the woman may correct the speaker but usually doesn't act shocked. Boys around coming of age experience a version of this trope when people start using formal "you" when addressing them, or outright call them "sir". |
| 332 | * This problem wouldn't arise in Scotland (particularly in the West) as women of any age are likely to be addressed as "Hen". |
| 333 | * In French, the title for married women is "madame" and the one for unmarried women and girls is "mademoiselle." As in English, this distinction can give rise to socially awkward situations. In Québec, [[http://66.46.185.79/bdl/gabarit_bdl.asp?t1=1&id=3634 official usage]] now dictates using "madame" for all women except young girls (and, amusingly, "women who insist on being called ''mademoiselle''"). |
| 334 | ** Same in German. To be called "Fräulein" would probably be considered sexist or patronizing by most young women. |
| 335 | * There is a further Ma'am shock for Americans who come across the British pronunciation of "Ma'am." It ''sounds'' almost exactly like the way an American would say, "Mom," whereas Americans would use a flat-sounding "Maam." This leads to amusement/merriment/horror when the American girl in question thinks that you think she's even older than the standard Ma'am shock would imply. |
| 336 | ** Additionally, the word "madam" (the long form of "ma'am" typically used by British service staff) can be even more shocking, since it's not only much more formal than what Americans are used to (mostly used for a female Speaker of the House, a female President, or a female Vice President) but also slang for MissKitty. |
| 337 | * To avoid this kind of situation, working class in Mexico don't call married women "señora" nor don't call unmarried women and girls "señorita", they use the shortened form "seño" for both. |
| 338 | * Similarly in English, when addressing a female, "Ms." (pronounced with more of a "z" sound than an "s") has become the neutral middle ground between "Mrs." (Married) and "Miss" (Single). One generally starts with "Ms." and waits for the woman in question to point you in the right direction. |
| 339 | * In Korean, the equivalant is "ajuma". As with other examples listed here, be careful when using this one. |
| 340 | * Some stores have a rule that everyone who looks as though they might be under legal age is asked for ID when buying alcohol or tobacco. So the first time you're ''not'' asked for your ID, it's a bit of a jolt to realize that nobody thinks you look like you ''might'' be under 21! |
| 341 | ** One story goes that a store manager told the cashiers to check the age of anyone buying alcohol, as it made the female customers feel better about themselves. Unfortunately, he was overheard by one of said female customers... |
| 342 | * A lesser shock is when small children stop referring to one as a boy/girl/kid/etc and start referring to one as a man/woman/grown-up/etc. |
| 343 | * Averted in modern Hebrew, as not only are Israelis generally too informal to use either term of address in most situations, but the equivalent ‘miss’ (''‘almatí''[[labelnote:Hebrew]]עלמתי[[/labelnote]] lit. ‘my maiden’) went out of style long ago, and the equivalent of ‘ma’am’ or ‘lady’ (''gevéret'',[[labelnote:Hebrew]]גברת[[/labelnote]] lit. ‘lady’, or the more formal ''gvirtí'' [[labelnote:Hebrew]]גבירתי[[/labelnote]] ‘my lady’[[note]]In Hebrew this phrase has none of the old-fashioned courting connotations of English.[[/note]]) is more commonly heard. (Of course, since this is Israel, which has universal conscription, ‘soldier’ might be more common...) |
| 344 | * May come up from colloquialisms: for instance, in some parts of the United States, "ma'am" is just considered a polite way of referring to a woman you've just met regardless of age, functionally equivalent to "miss"; in other areas, "ma'am" specifically refers to a [[DontCallMeSir female superior]] or someone who is notably older. So you may just be trying to be polite, but accidentally imply they seem far older than they are! |
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