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| 3 | [[quoteright:209:[[Webcomic/PvP https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ludicrous_precision_2.jpg]]]] |
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| 5 | ->''"At this very moment in the town of Coeur d'Coeurs, young Ned was 9 years, 27 weeks, 6 days, and 3 minutes old. His dog, Digby, was 3 years, 2 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, and 9 minutes old. And not a minute older."'' |
| 6 | -->-- '''The Narrator''', ''Series/PushingDaisies'' |
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| 8 | For whatever reason, [[TVGenius very intelligent people in fiction are incapable of summarizing anything]]. No matter what you ask them, you'll get [[LiteralGenie exactly what you asked for]], with ''way'' more detail than is necessary. No robot will ever say "it's pretty darned likely" or even "about [[MillionToOneChance one in 8000]] that you'll fail"; they say "There is a 99.9875653 per cent chance of success". |
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| 10 | Common in SpockSpeak and RoboSpeak. Spock often estimated time in tenths (and later hundredths) of a second, which is of course useless as the sentence takes several seconds and there is no understood convention of exactly what instant that would refer to, even if one were capable of tracking time with this precision. |
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| 12 | This happens most with numbers, but can show up in factual explanations as well. When you ask your RobotBuddy if the air is breathable, odds are he'll go into more detail than you really need. |
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| 14 | Note that in real life, the concept of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Significant_figures significant figures]] means that, depending on the circumstances, ending a number with a lot of zeroes is both intuitive and practical. [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/fakeprec.html Use of overly precise statistics]] to verify claims will often be a sign of [[LogicalFallacies pseudoscience]] rather than proper scientific method. This is particularly true when the statistics in question could not have realistically been measured to that degree (i.e. the margin of error is being ignored) or if they are subject to major fluctuation anyway. |
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| 16 | This is very frequent in ExactTimeToFailure counts; this is largely because the more figures are shown, the faster the timer appears to be counting down. This, of course, lets the hero stop the timer at [[AlwaysClose exactly 0:00.01]]. |
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| 18 | See also MouthfulOfPi and GoodWithNumbers. Often used by characters like the ClockKing. Sounds like, but is (usually) unrelated to, ImprobableAimingSkills[[note]]The few times that they are related are when the mass, force, and trajectory of a missile are explicitly and precisely calculated[[/note]]. AndNinetyNineCents is a trope that plays with this one. Compare to YourDaysAreNumbered and the NonNaturalNumberGag. Not to be confused with UnnecessaryTimePrecision, which is doing unnecessarily complicated time calculations when requested to recall a date. |
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| 20 | !!Examples: |
| 21 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 22 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 23 | * L from ''Manga/DeathNote'' is prone to giving exact percentage probabilities that Light is Kira. According to the author, they were all made-up anyway, as any time L said this he was almost entirely sure of it. |
| 24 | * ''Anime/DoraemonGreatAdventureInTheAntarcticKachiKochi'' ends with the heroes disappearing from the past - before the ice age - after saving mankind from the dreaded planet-destroying monster called Blizarga. Then comes the final scene - 100,000 years and ''one week'' later. |
| 25 | * Yuki Nagato from the ''Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya'' series, who is a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots ridiculously human alien]]. Probably the prime example of her ludicrous precision is the "Endless Eight" arc, where she breathlessly tells the rest of the SOS Brigade exactly how many times the past two weeks have [[GroundhogDayLoop looped]] (Which is ''thousands'' of times, mind you) and ''how many times certain events did or didn't happen during these loops.'' |
| 26 | * In the ''Anime/SkyGirls'' OVA, Karen uses this to show that she is the team's TheSmartGuy. |
| 27 | * In ''{{Manga/Onidere}}'', Tadashi has calculated how long he can hug his easily excitable girlfriend so that she stops crying, but doesn't pass out (7 seconds). |
| 28 | * At one point in ''{{Literature/Durarara}}'' Shizuo Heiwajima tells someone that there's a 0.0000000000000000000675% chance that you can kill someone with a glare before beating the shit out of him. That's roughly one in a billion trillion; if he tried it on each and every person in the world ''a trillion times'', he'd only kill about 10 of them. Must have taken a while to narrow down that probability. |
| 29 | * ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' manages to ''reconstruct'' this trope. They announce there are 32768 possible causes for the accident. Then, you realizes it was a GeniusBonus: exactly 2 to the 15th power. And then, because the estimation comes from Magi, you understand it's what computers (which use binary) will say instead of "thirty thousand". |
| 30 | ** Playing the trope straight, Ritsuko will often give extremely low percentages of success (often something like 0.000234%) to the strategies NERV comes up with against the Angels. Naturally, they usually succeed. [[spoiler:It's justified in that the top brass are secretly following prophetic documents, so they ''know'' the strategy will work, regardless of its conventional probability. Though it is amusing to speculate that if NERV does everything else the same way, their operating budget could include future lottery winnings.]] |
| 31 | * Fushimi Saruhiko of ''Anime/{{K}}'' knows everything about Yata Misaki, including his height which is 167cm...well, 166.9 cm to be exact. The ludicrous precision stems from the fact that he knows even though Misaki ''himself'' doesn't know his own height. PlayedForLaughs but [[StalkerWithACrush if you think about it]], kinda creepy. |
| 32 | * In ''Literature/CrestOfTheStars'', Admiral Trife's [[DeadpanSnarker chief of staff]] seems to enjoy listing ludicrously precise probabilities in response to his superior's queries. |
| 33 | -->'''Trife:''' Wait a moment. You did said that the probability of contact with the enemy was 99.97%, right?\ |
| 34 | '''Kahyul:''' Yes.\ |
| 35 | '''Trife:''' Then if the remaining 0.03% did not refer to the enemy, what could it refer to?\ |
| 36 | '''Kahyul:''' Enemy misdirection, complete breakdown of our sensor devices, unknown natural phenomena, groups of hitherto unknown sapient beings, or…\ |
| 37 | '''Trife:''' ''[shocked]'' You seriously do not believe all of those will occur, do you? |
| 38 | * Saguru Hakuba from ''Manga/MagicKaito'' is known for tracking the time to the exact second. He takes note of all kinds of seemingly unimportant events, making him look obsessive. In one case, for example, he is sitting at a dinner table at a detective contest and takes note of the exact time that everyone leaves the room to go to the toilet. [[spoiler:In this case, though, this turns out to be useful afterwards]]. At the end of another case, he introduces himself to Aoko Nakamori by giving his body measurements and a list of his interests in a unfittingly casual way. |
| 39 | * ''Manga/DrStone'': When Taiju awakens from his petrification, he finds his friend Senku waiting for him, who tells him it is now October 5th, 5738 AD; the entire human race has been petrified for almost four thousand years. How does Senku know such a precise date? When he was in his horrific AndIMustScream state, he maintained his sanity by ''counting the seconds''. |
| 40 | * In ''Literature/AccelWorld'', the Purple King has an EnergyDonation special move that drains her own Special Attack gauge to recharge someone else's, with the recipient getting 1.60217662 times as much as Thorn gives. After Thorn calculates the amount to nine decimal places, Haruyuki mentally notes that describing the rate as 1.6 times as much would have sufficed. |
| 41 | * In [[Anime/HellsingUltimate]] the BadassBoast of the paladins from the 13th Division takes a turn to bathos when they proclaim their readiness to descend into Hell itself to battle its 7 405 926 demons. And they all say it in unison, so they didn't just make up the number on the spot - that's how they memorised their creed. |
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| 43 | [[/folder]] |
| 44 | |
| 45 | [[folder:Card Games]] |
| 46 | * One of the monster cards in ''{{TabletopGame/Munchkin}}'' is "3,872 Orcs". Also, the rules include a time limit of 2.6 seconds for anyone to speak up after killing a monster. |
| 47 | [[/folder]] |
| 48 | |
| 49 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 50 | * ''ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse'': Often PlayedForLaughs in the comics of Creator/CarlBarks and Creator/DonRosa, where it became a RunningGag to give the value Scrooge [=McDuck=]'s fortune as [[EleventyZillion some ludicrously huge number]] plus sixteen cents (or similar). |
| 51 | * ''Comicbook/TheIncredibleHulk'': |
| 52 | ** Greg Pak likes to demonstrate Bruce Banner's intelligence by having him spout random math problems and ridiculously precise probabilities in his speech. |
| 53 | --->'''Banner:''' From the beginning, I figured there was an 83.7 percent chance that during the course of the battle, I'd turn back into the Hulk. |
| 54 | ** Amadeus Cho ''always'' talks like that. The one thing he can do is work out the exact probability of pretty much anything, so he likes to do so. He can also use said ability for ImprobableAimingSkills by calculating in an instant bullet ricochet, etc. During ''ComicBook/ChaosWar'', when almost the entire population of Earth was put into a trance, Cho warned that at least 32451 people could die due to things such as being in speeding vehicles or in the middle of surgery. |
| 55 | * ''ComicBook/{{Norby}}'': In the original ''Literature/NorbyTheMixedUpRobot'', while Jeff and Norby are in Albany's police car, Jeff estimates that they're thirty stories up in the air. In this comic, Norby declares that they're ''exactly'' thirty stories in the air. The added precision is unnecessary, as the characters are worried about falling. Being off by one or two stories isn't going to matter much. |
| 56 | * ''ComicBook/UltimateGalactusTrilogy'': Nick Fury tells Xavier that he has resources and a bottomless budget to improve Cerebro and help him make contact with Gah Lak Tus. Xavier asks Jean how much money they would need: it would be near the Gross National Product of Germany. Xavier then asks Fury "Define 'bottomless'". |
| 57 | [[/folder]] |
| 58 | |
| 59 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 60 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1E2nN5Fwzk This]] ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' fan video features Yamaxanadu Shikieiki convicting many ''Touhou'' characters of various crimes. One of them is Suika, who is accused of stalking Inaba since 100 million years and 2 weeks ago. She then proceeds to punish 12 other youkai by fining them [[spoiler:"[[ACupAngst 300 grams of boob apiece]]"]]. [[LampshadeHanging She doesn't think it's too much, given the size of the convicted.]] |
| 61 | * At one point in the ''{{Manga/Naruto}}'' fanfic ''Time Braid'', Sakura, who has picked up chakra-sensing abilities, says something to Naruto along the lines of "I can't help feeling that you're, um, two thousand, seven hundred and thirty times as strong as me." |
| 62 | * Kuyou Suou in ''Fanfic/KyonBigDamnHero'' counts time in "rotations", with each one taking about 1/1500[[superscript:th]] of a second. |
| 63 | * In the ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', Twilight is able to time events to the ''point'' second in her head. She explains that some of the more complicated spells require that kind of mental precision in order to cast. |
| 64 | * Subverted in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9510186/1/Terminal-Justice Terminal Justice]]'' when Mr. Black gives [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Alfred]] "roughly 15 more years" to live. He ''can'' offer an exact amount of time but understands that Bruce wouldn't want to know. |
| 65 | * Played for laughs in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/2205019/1/Harry-Potter-the-Azkaban-Parody Harry Potter and the Azkaban Parody]]'', where Harry takes every opportunity to comment that he was unjustly incarcerated for "one year, three months, two weeks, four days, seven hours, thirteen minutes and twenty-six seconds." |
| 66 | * In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10139565/12/Travel-Secrets-Third Travel Secrets: Third]]'' a Harry who sent his magic and memories back to his younger self requests a time turner for his second run-through of third year and the Unspeakable who's supposed to issue it to him casts a spell to verify his age so that they can check it later to make sure he didn't exceed the regulated amount of use. |
| 67 | -->'''Unspeakable:''' According to my charm, you are thirty years, thirty-four days, sixteen hours, fifty-two minutes and eleven point nine-three-oh-one seconds old. |
| 68 | * ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11092196/9/Xtreme-Freak Xtreme Freak]]'': |
| 69 | -->When the Oracle of Delphi tells you in a clear and certain tone that you have forty-nine days, thirteen hours, thirteen minutes and fifty-two seconds to finish your work; you don't argue, you just get busy. |
| 70 | * ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4912291/45/The-Best-Revenge The Best Revenge]]'': |
| 71 | -->'''Nicolas Flamel:''' I am, in fact, six hundred sixty-six years, one month, six days, eight hours, and fifty-two minutes old. Every year matters, Mr. Potter. And ''that'' is the point of the Elixir of Life. |
| 72 | * ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/8462437/chapters/27963012 This Gonna Be Good]]'': |
| 73 | -->'''Deadpool:''' [Harri] only took out those who got in her way and I didn’t stop to play with any bodies but I’m like 87.43257% sure that they were breathing. |
| 74 | * ''Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse:'' In "Nightmares Yet to Come", Midnight can recall how long it's been since she and Trixie last spoke to nearly the hour. Averted in a later talk, when she's evidently having a breakdown and can't recall how long exactly they've known one another (somewhere around eight to nine years). |
| 75 | * In ''Fanfic/NeitherABirdNorAPlaneItsDeku'', K.E.L.E.X. has a habit of providing uselessly precise calculations of probability. For instance, when Izuku panics after believing he'd been transported into space, K.E.L.E.X. tells him not to worry as even if he had actually been sent into outer space, he would have a 98.436926454038% chance of being able to breathe in a vacuum. |
| 76 | * ''Fanfic/MissingSherlockHolmes'': DiscussedTrope. In the beginning drabble, Lestrade reflects that it's been a week since Watson went missing and he hypothesizes that Holmes knows the exact number of hours and minutes. |
| 77 | * Fanfic/MyHeroPlaythrough: |
| 78 | ** After Izuku punches the Zero Pointer to save Ochako, he tells Recovery Girl he tried to calculate the best spot to hit the robot to tip it over backwards without tearing it apart. When he receives the acceptance hologram, All Might tells him the smart people at UA did the math and Izuku was 1.6 meters below the optimal point. |
| 79 | ** After their first Dungeon run, Izuku drops a large mound of bills and coins on the table, and a few seconds into the resulting conversation Ochako says that it is two million, eight hundred fourteen thousand, six hundred yen. |
| 80 | [[/folder]] |
| 81 | |
| 82 | [[folder:Films -- Animation]] |
| 83 | * Macaulay Culkin's character Kevin in ''WesternAnimation/ThePagemaster'' is a LovableCoward obsessed with statistics as a way of controlling any potential danger that could befall him. Accordingly, he cites all sorts of statistics for how risky various everyday activities are. |
| 84 | * In ''WesternAnimation/SouthParkBiggerLongerAndUncut'', when Kenny goes to Hell, there's a sign that shows the population which is 923,565,421,221 and counting. |
| 85 | [[/folder]] |
| 86 | |
| 87 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 88 | * ''Film/The14Amazons'' does this in Lu Chao's introduction. A slave under Tangut captivity, the Tangut chieftain questions Lu how long he's been serving in their prison. Lu's reply? |
| 89 | --> "10 years, 5 months and 3 days." |
| 90 | * In 2021's ''Film/{{Dune|2021}}'', the Mentat of House Atreides Thufir Hawat can calculate what a ship and navigators cost for a space travel to Caladan in an instant and with extreme precision. The brains of Mentats in general are trained to become living supercomputers. |
| 91 | * ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'': |
| 92 | ** ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'': After the good Terminator blows up several police cars, we see his heads-up display which shows "0.0 CASUALTIES". This doesn't make much sense no matter whether "casualty" is interpreted as "death" or "injured person": The former would imply there is such a thing as partial death, while the latter means that the Terminator blew up a number of cars with a minigun and a grenade launcher in such a way that not a single policeman suffered even a minor burn, cut, or bruise. Creator/JamesCameron [[WordOfGod explained]] that they tried using a simple 0, but thought it looked silly, so the decimal was added per RuleOfCool. |
| 93 | ** ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'': When John threatens to kill himself with a gun in order to blackmail the Terminator to attempt to save Kate Brewster's father, the T-850 claims to calculate on the basis of John's "pupil dilation, skin temperature and motor functions" an 83% probability that he won't pull the trigger. |
| 94 | %%* The HAL 9000 in ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey''. |
| 95 | * ''{{Film/Tron}}'': |
| 96 | -->'''MCP:''' There's a 68.71 percent chance you're right.\ |
| 97 | '''Dillinger:''' Cute. |
| 98 | * C-3PO pulls one in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'': |
| 99 | -->'''C-3PO:''' Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating [[TheAsteroidThicket an asteroid field]] is approximately three thousand seven hundred twenty to one.\ |
| 100 | '''Han Solo:''' NeverTellMeTheOdds |
| 101 | %%* Much of Fergus Falls' dialogue in ''WrongfullyAccused''. |
| 102 | %%* ''[[Film/LePrenom Le Prénom]]'', the narrator. |
| 103 | * At the start of ''Film/ConquestOfSpace'' (1955), the commander tells off his NumberOne for being one second out in his estimate of how late is a resupply shuttle, saying that a single second can be important in space travel. This is certainly true, though it's more to establish him as TheNeidermeyer. |
| 104 | * Throughout ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'', Donatello spouts crazy-precise probabilities and distances. Mostly he has the aid of a wrist-mounted computer, but this appears to be calculated in his head: |
| 105 | -->'''Donatello:''' If the spire falls and the toxin makes ground impact, it'll contaminate a 10-block radius!\ |
| 106 | '''Leonardo:''' What are the odds of us stopping that from happening?\ |
| 107 | '''Donatello:''' Uh, [[MillionToOneChance 0.00000000003%]]!\ |
| 108 | '''Leonardo:''' [[ILikeThoseOdds I'll take it]]. [[{{Determinator}} Nobody moves, no matter what]]. |
| 109 | * Zigzagged in the Soviet comedy ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQyDr0D2KH0 Moonshiners]]''. At first one of the titular [[HillbillyMoonshiner Hillbilly Moonshiners]] just empties a sack of sugar cubes into the still. Then he makes some calculations and adds one more cube. |
| 110 | * In ''Film/{{Deadpool 2016}}'', the titular character counts the time since Francis turned him into a mutant. |
| 111 | --> "I've been waiting one year, three weeks, six days and, oh... 14 minutes to make him fix what he did to me." |
| 112 | * In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', Doctor Strange looks through 14,000,605 versions of future. |
| 113 | * ''Film/LoveAtFirstSight2023'': The narrator (who is all but stated to be a supernatural being) frequently tosses precise statistics at the audience. For example, she tells us exactly how many lights are on in London on December 21st, many neck pillows are on the flight, how long the wedding/memorial lasts down to the second, what percentage of guests are crying, and so on. |
| 114 | * Subverted in ''Film/DontLookUp'': When Kate offhandedly says how much time is left until the asteroid hits down to the exact second, Dr. Mindy openly wonders how she can state that so confidentially. At which point she replies that when they did the calculations a few days prior, she put in the predicted impact time into a diet-tracking app on her phone. |
| 115 | --> "I put the moment of impact on a diet app. So impact is when my diet ends. Only I’m not on a diet, I’m just crying five times a day." |
| 116 | [[/folder]] |
| 117 | |
| 118 | [[folder:Jokes]] |
| 119 | * "87.4% of statistics [[LiesDamnedLiesAndStatistics are made up on the spot]]." |
| 120 | * A museum guide showing the visitors a fossilized dinosaur skeleton: |
| 121 | --> '''Guide:''' This dinosaur skeleton is 150,000,007 years, 5 months and 16 days old. |
| 122 | --> '''Visitor:''' How can you tell the age so accurately? |
| 123 | --> '''Guide:''' Well, it was 150,000,000 years old when I started working here, which was 7 years, 5 months and 16 days ago. |
| 124 | * A man hasn't been feeling well, so he goes to his doctor for a physical. Afterward, the doctor comes out with the results. "I'm afraid I've got some very bad news," the doctor says. "You're dying, and you don't have much time left." "That's terrible!" says the man. "How long have I got?" "Ten," the doctor says sadly. "Ten?" the man asks. "Ten what? Months? Weeks? What?" The doctor interrupts, looking at his watch. "Nine... Eight..." |
| 125 | * Advertisement: The new calcium-rich yogurt does wonders for the strength of children' skeletons! Extensive experiments show that fracture only occures under the stress of 974 N/сm2! |
| 126 | * A company that makes matchsticks recives an indignant letter from their customer: "I've been counting the matchsticks in your boxes for 11 years, and sometimes there're 59 pcs, othertimes - 61, or even 58! Are you all out of your minds there?!" |
| 127 | [[/folder]] |
| 128 | |
| 129 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 130 | * David Weber's ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books are full of this. He often gives ship velocities to 6 significant digits, when those ships are accelerating at rates that make the last three digits change in the time it takes to read the number. On one occasion he had a character verbally give a "time to grav lance range" in hundredths of a second, and almost nobody in the series will say something like "about five minutes" when "two-hundred-ninety-three-point-two seconds" is more accurate. |
| 131 | ** However, sometimes there are Ludicrous ''Inaccuracies'', such as "four thousand KPH—make it sixty-seven KPS" in ''Echoes.'' Yes, KPH is kilometers per hour, and KPS is per second. And it is averted at least once, when the time to impact is stated as "170 seconds from... mark." Not that it's hugely important either. |
| 132 | ** Even when characters are giving approximations they'll often use more precision than makes sense. For example saying "approximately thirty-one minutes ago" when most people would say "about half an hour ago". |
| 133 | * Played with in ''Literature/SylvieAndBruno'', when Bruno estimates that there are "about a thousand and four" pigs in the field outside. When told he can't possibly be sure about the "four" part, he insists that that's the ''only'' part he's sure about--there are four pigs right under the window, but he can't be nearly as precise about how many are in the rest of the field. |
| 134 | * Used in at least one version of ''Literature/TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy''. Justified by RuleOfFunny, and in particular in this case because it's coming from the narrator. |
| 135 | -->Many stories are told of Zaphod Beeblebrox's journey to the Frogstar. Ten percent of them are ninety-five percent true, fourteen percent of them are sixty-five percent true, thirty-five percent of them are only five percent true, and all the rest of them are [[CloudCuckoolander told by Zaphod Beeblebrox]]. |
| 136 | * Used for the opposite effect in ''Literature/ToKillAMockingbird''. When asked by the judge during Tom Robinson's trial, Mayella Ewell gives her age as "nineteen-and-a-half." The fact that a nineteen-year-old still thinks of her age in halves serves to show that she doesn't get out as much as she should. |
| 137 | * In dialogue (internal or with other characters), Creator/KeithLaumer's Literature/{{Bolo}}s always measure things down to hundredths of a second or less. |
| 138 | * In ''Literature/GoingPostal'', Mr. Pump the golem berates conman Moist von Lipwig for his criminal lifestyle, citing that although he's never used violence, the deprivation of his victims has cumulatively killed 2.338 people. Later, Moist [[LampshadeHanging questions the accuracy of this]]. |
| 139 | * Chapter 85 of ''Literature/MobyDick'' deals with the question of whether the whale's spout is water or vapour, a question which has lasted from the beginning of history until |
| 140 | -->this blessed minute (fifteen and a quarter minutes past one o'clock P.M. of this sixteenth day of December, A.D. 1851) |
| 141 | * In ''Literature/TheWasteLands'', Blaine (a sentient monorail train) can tell if someone is lying using voice analysis, which he claims has a reliability of 97% plus or minus 0.5%. |
| 142 | * In ''Literature/{{Momo|1973}}'', one of the grey men giving his age (down to the second). Justified, since they're not human. |
| 143 | * In John R. Powers' fictionalized memoir ''The Last Catholic in America'', the narrator, Eddie, tells us about his class's eighth-grade "sex talk" delivered by one of the parish priests. The priest lays this one on the class: |
| 144 | -->"Furthermore, boys, it has been estimated that more people go to Hell because of sins of impurity than for any other kind of sin. Perhaps as many as two out of every three people who go to Hell go there because of the sin of impurity." |
| 145 | * Maggy, the ship AI in ''Literature/{{Hellspark}}'', starts out like this, though she comes to grips with the concept of verbal approximation as the story progresses. Also deconstructed at one point when she gives a 25% probability of a particular outcome and then admits when pressed that all this means is there are four possibilities, which she's assuming are equally probable only because she has no data by which to judge their actual likelihoods; it also turns out that her lack of data misled her and there are considerably more than four possibilities, rendering the entire calculation useless. |
| 146 | * In ''Literature/{{Worm}}'', Dinah Alcott's predictions of the future often feature percent probabilities to five decimal places. |
| 147 | * When asked how old she is in ''Literature/AWrinkleInTime'', Mrs Whatsit has to think for a moment. She then replies that she is exactly [[TimeAbyss 2,379,152,497 years, 8 months, and 3 days old]] (by Earth standards, which she doesn't consider very accurate). |
| 148 | * Creator/IsaacAsimov's "Literature/TrueLove": Joe narrates that there's exactly 3,784,982,874 men and 3,786,112,090 women in the world. Once Milton's initial parameters are fulfilled, there are still 235 women who fit the criteria. |
| 149 | * In ''Literature/KnownSpace'', Ringworld was built in 936,607 BC, one of the most precise prehistoric dates ever made. |
| 150 | * In ''Literature/TheMouseWatch'', this is one of the specialties of Candroid, the titular heroes' RobotBuddy. |
| 151 | -->'''Bernie:''' How many R.A.T.S. operatives are there in the world?\ |
| 152 | '''Candroid:''' One million three hundred thousand four hundred and six. [[WhamLine Not including the one currently on the premises.]] |
| 153 | * In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone,'' the addresses of Harry's Hogwarts letters change from "the Cupboard Under the Stairs" to "the Smallest Bedroom" to "the Floor" (of a one-room shack), depending on where he's currently sleeping. |
| 154 | [[/folder]] |
| 155 | |
| 156 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 157 | * ''Series/DoctorWho'': K9 is prone to this, even needing to be snapped out of infinite repetition when a percentage goes into repeating threes. |
| 158 | * In the new ''Series/KnightRider'', Michael is poisoned. KITT has a countdown to his death that goes into the hundreths of seconds. |
| 159 | ** KITT would do this in the original too (though rather less ludicrously), by giving distances to the tenths place, correcting times if they were a minute off, etc. |
| 160 | * In ''{{Series/Firefly}}'', this is how River killed three of Niska's henchmen: She memorized their positions and "did the math." |
| 161 | * ''Franchise/StarTrek'': |
| 162 | ** Vulcans in general are gung-ho for this trope. |
| 163 | ** ''Franchise/StarTrek'' doesn't just do it with numbers, either. Whenever they discuss an order or regulation, it isn't enough for them to cite the regulation's number, they also know the applicable section and paragraph. While most modern-day servicemembers are fairly well-read in terms of their branch's regulations, not many can tell you which paragraph the relevant information is found in off the top of their head. Sometimes justified by them looking up the regulations ahead of time. |
| 164 | ** In [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries the original]], Spock does this all the time, even in situations where the precision of his calculation is obviously not just unnecessary, but impossible. {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in "Errand of Mercy": |
| 165 | --->'''Kirk:''' What would you say the odds are on our getting out of here?\ |
| 166 | '''Spock:''' Difficult to be precise, Captain. I should say approximately 7824.7 to 1.\ |
| 167 | '''Kirk:''' ... "Difficult to be precise"? "7824 to 1"?\ |
| 168 | '''Spock:''' 7824'''.7''' to 1.\ |
| 169 | '''Kirk:''' That's a... pretty close approximation.\ |
| 170 | '''Spock:''' I endeavor to be accurate. |
| 171 | ** Data, from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration The Next Generation]]'', regularly practices this during the show's first season, and is hushed nearly every time. Since then, he's learned that most people don't really care for specifics of such length. Being an android, [[ComputersAreFast Data can count all the seconds]]. Lampshaded in "The Loss": |
| 172 | --->'''Data:''' 6 days, 13 hours, 47 minutes.\ |
| 173 | '''Riker:''' What, no seconds?\ |
| 174 | '''Data:''' I have discovered, sir, a certain level of impatience when I calculate a lengthy time interval to the nearest second. ''[{{beat}}]'' However, if you wish...\ |
| 175 | '''Riker:''' No. No. Minutes is fine. |
| 176 | *** In "Future Imperfect", Riker starts to suspect that he's in a FakedRipVanWinkle scenario, so he asks Data how long it would take to travel to a starbase. [[SpottingTheThread The fact that Data]] ''[[SpottingTheThread couldn't]]'' [[SpottingTheThread give a precise answer helps confirm it]]. |
| 177 | ** From ''[[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Deep Space Nine]]'': |
| 178 | *** Bashir becomes insufferable for this after it was revealed he was genetically engineered. Even his actor hated it. He provides the likelihood of the success of the Dominion in the Dominion War to two decimal places. For reference, the Dominion War is a massive conflict involving four of the most powerful organizations in the galaxy. He also uses this trope to calculate travel times in a damaged ship faster than the computer could, despite it making no sense for him to be able to calculate this without being some kind of warp-travel/impulse-travel expert, never mind it being an enemy ship they barely understand the workings of in the first place.[[note]]In case you were wondering: "Seventeen years, three months and two days. [[SarcasmMode Give or take an hour]]."[[/note]] It's even lampshaded by characters in-universe how unnatural he is being. It didn't stop the writing staff from continuing to do it, however. |
| 179 | *** This trope is {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in "Take Me Out to the Holosuite": |
| 180 | ---->'''Sisko:''' It's been a long time.\ |
| 181 | '''Solok:''' Ten years, two months, five days.\ |
| 182 | '''Sisko:''' You mean you don't know it to the minute?\ |
| 183 | '''Solok:''' Of course I do. But humans are often irked by such precision. Especially the more emotional humans. |
| 184 | *** In the framing story of "Trials and Tribble-ations," Department of Temporal Investigations agents Dulmur and Lucsly exhibited this trope with time calculations, including day-of-week: |
| 185 | ---->'''Dulmur:''' . . . What was the date of your arrival?\ |
| 186 | '''Sisko:''' Stardate 4523.7.\ |
| 187 | '''Dulmur:''' A hundred and five years, one month, and twelve days ago.\ |
| 188 | '''Lucsly:''' A Friday.[[note]]This is a bit of a meta joke as well. The initial airdate of the TOS episode "The Trouble With Tribbles", was 29 December 1967... A Friday.[[/note]] |
| 189 | ** From ''[[Series/StarTrekVoyager Voyager]]'': |
| 190 | *** {{Inverted}} in "Imperfection." Tuvok scans a destroyed Borg Cube and announces the remains of approximately 37 Borg drones. When Tom comments that that number doesn't sound approximate, Tuvok clarifies that he's rounding based on the number of Borg ''pieces'' that he can detect. |
| 191 | *** Defied [[PlayedForLaughs For Laughs]] in "Good Shepherd", as Janeway took [[LowerDeckEpisode a group of lesser known crew members on a away mission to get to know them better.]] One of them admitted that she has a really hard time keeping up with all the insane calculations and tech stuff that comes second nature to everyone else. In the climax of the episode they were racing away from a shockwave and she counted down the seconds until it hit them, when she reached zero everyone flinched preparing for impact. When nothing happened they all looked at her and she said "More or less." ''Then'' the shockwave hit them. |
| 192 | ** In ''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'', "Hull integrity" is just their replacement word for shields, which would lead to the ship being just fine [[CriticalExistenceFailure until it hit 0%.]] Although components, like warp and weapons can fail at a much earlier time, and as soon as the shields are down, they usually get boarded. |
| 193 | %%* Kryten in ''Series/RedDwarf'', in parody of this trope. |
| 194 | * ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' |
| 195 | ** Sheldon Cooper. Ask him a simple question and you'll get a lengthy dissertation, mostly on how wrong you are. And sometimes he'll give it to you even if you don't ask. Often, said dissertation merely explains how the question is badly formed or [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness predicated on erroneous assumptions]]. |
| 196 | ** While Sheldon is the worst offender, the other characters (except Penny) do this, too. Leonard discusses a kiss with Leslie: "Well, the Earth didn't move. Except for the 383 miles it was going to anyway." |
| 197 | * Spencer Reid in ''Series/CriminalMinds'' does this all the time, much to his teammates' annoyance. Lampshaded at one point: |
| 198 | -->'''Reid:''' With this type of criminal, all are angry, most are male, and few, if any, are ever caught.\ |
| 199 | '''Elle:''' Few, if any? You don't have the statistics on that?\ |
| 200 | '''Reid:''' 6%. I'm trying to be more conversational.\ |
| 201 | '''Elle:''' Oh. It's not working. |
| 202 | * The {{narrator}} in ''Series/PushingDaisies'' always does this when giving the age of a character. |
| 203 | * ''Series/{{JAG}}'': Despite not wearing a watch Mac can tell you what time it is, or how much time has elapsed, no matter what the situation is. She says that she's usually accurate to within 30 seconds, and when people ask her how she does it she just says "It's a Marine thing." |
| 204 | * ''Series/{{Quark}}''. After all the crew bar one has escaped from a Gorgon warship, Captain Quark tells Ficus to blast off in four minutes if he hasn't returned with the last crewmember. Being a parody of TheSpock, Ficus asks if that's four minutes from "now" or four minutes from the start of their conversation. |
| 205 | * ''Series/BlakesSeven''. It's not just the MasterComputer who needs to be precise. |
| 206 | -->'''Blake:''' I want everything in the data banks concerning Galaxy Class cruisers. |
| 207 | -->'''Zen:''' Complete data is extensive. |
| 208 | -->'''Blake:''' Good. How long before we're in teleport range? |
| 209 | -->'''Zen:''' That will depend on speed as yet unspecified. |
| 210 | -->'''Blake:''' [smiling at Jenna] Standard by Four? |
| 211 | -->'''Zen:''' Sixteen point one four zero nine zero one minutes. |
| 212 | -->'''Jenna:''' [grinning] Approximately speaking, of course. |
| 213 | -->'''Zen:''' It is estimated that you will require one hundred and twenty eight hours to assimilate all available data on Galaxy Class cruisers. |
| 214 | -->'''Blake:''' [perturbed] Mark Three? |
| 215 | * The clock in ''Series/CasteloRaTimBum'' always knows at which time Dr. Victor is going to arrive in the castle, down to the second. |
| 216 | -->"Dr. Victor will come, Dr. Victor is coming, Dr. Victor came!" |
| 217 | * ''Series/BarneyMiller'': In "[[Recap/BarneyMillerS3E07 The Recluse]]", a loon is brought in ranting about how TheEndIsNigh. When Barney says "Yes, Mr. Roberts, but the question is when?", Mr. Roberts catches him by surprise by saying "5:30". |
| 218 | * ''Series/KamenRiderBuild'': The physicist Sento Kiryu kept count of how many times he has been accused of murdering Takumi Katsuragi. It's [[CrossesTheLineTwice 329 times]] in the span of couple hours. Katsuragi himself was also way into weirdly exact numbers, such as when he meassured his excitement as 9.8 megaton. |
| 219 | * ''Series/{{Scorpion}}'': Sylvester is able to make incredibly precise mental calculations in a matter of seconds at least OncePerEpisode. |
| 220 | [[/folder]] |
| 221 | |
| 222 | [[folder:Music]] |
| 223 | * One of [=M2M=]'s songs, "Everything", has this line: |
| 224 | --> It's been nine days, eight hours, forty minutes, ten seconds, since you called |
| 225 | * One of Music/{{Hyadain}}'s ''VideoGame/MegaMan2'' songs involving Quick Man has him wondering how many seconds it will be until he sees Mega Man again, then he casually rattles off a count of 780,210 seconds, which is fully in character with his depiction as a hurrying, worrying, time-obsessed android. |
| 226 | [[/folder]] |
| 227 | |
| 228 | [[folder:Magazines]] |
| 229 | * One article in the ''Annals of Improbable Research'' researched the question "how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood," and concluded that "''Marmota monax'' is able to chuck wood at a rate of 361.9237001 cubic centimeters per day." |
| 230 | [[/folder]] |
| 231 | |
| 232 | [[folder:Print Media]] |
| 233 | * Journalists are very prone to treating opinion polls as more precise than they really are. The time before any election will see many such cases. For example, if one particular poll suggests candidate A has 43% support while candidate B has 41%, many newspapers will quickly conclude that A is leading. This ignores the fact that even the most scientific polls will often have a 3% margin of error.[[note]]A 3% margin of error does not however mean that all outcomes within that span are ''equally'' likely. Nor however does it mean that the poll can't be off by ''more'' than 3%. A properly-conducted poll will usually have about a 95% chance of being correct to within its margin of error.[[/note]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/fakeprec.html See]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/archive042010.html#04242010 the]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/archive042010.html#04072010 Fallacy]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/archive122009.html#12092009 Files]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/archive092009.html#09302009 for]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/archive072008.html#07122008 several]] [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/archive062008.html#06262008 examples]]. A more in-depth view of the phenomenon can be found [[http://www.fallacyfiles.org/readpoll.html here]]. |
| 234 | * And not understanding notions of margin of error and significant digits generally. Expect 3000 K to become precisely 4940.33 °F. This is known as false precision. |
| 235 | * If there's a chart, it won't have error bars. Ever. |
| 236 | * The ''Daily Mail'' (the British newspaper which caters for the tinfoil-hat brigade) once ran an anti-SI-units article claiming that Britain would soon have to face "31¼" MPH speed limits. Apart from the error of assuming that the rule-of-thumb conversion (8 kilometres ''approximately'' equals 5 miles) is an exact one (the correct conversion of 50km, to the same four significant figures, is nearer 31.09 miles than the stated 31.25), they also failed to realise (or willfully ignored) the fact that the percentage difference between 30 and 31.25, let alone that between 30 and 31.09, is well within the tolerance of mechanical speedometers. Plus there's the fact that if they'd used the other rule-of-thumb conversion (5 km approximately equals 3 miles), the whole basis for the silly article would have disappeared. |
| 237 | * One newspaper article once claimed that a "hundred thousand ton" ship displaced "101,605 kilograms". Apart from having an error of three orders of magnitude, this also assumed that the displacement was known to the nearest pound. (It also didn't follow SI standards; it should have been "100 Gg".) |
| 238 | [[/folder]] |
| 239 | |
| 240 | [[folder:Sports]] |
| 241 | * Sprint times in professional sports are frequently measured to thousandths of a second by stopwatches operated by human hands--which are not precise to such small degrees. Worse, differences of a few thousandths or even hundredths of a second in dash times are often touted as being very significant, when, practically, differences of less than a tenth of a second in distance dashes are close to no difference at all. |
| 242 | * Football (soccer) suffers a bit from this as the rules were originally written in Imperial measurements but are now administered in Metric units. For example the goals are specified as being 7.32m x 2.44m, that being the equivalent of the old eight yards wide by eight foot high. |
| 243 | * Similarly, in international basketball, the goals are 3.05 m high (10 feet). |
| 244 | * Really, in pretty much every sport in international competition you will see this in the metric measurements because the original measurements were made in English. |
| 245 | [[/folder]] |
| 246 | |
| 247 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 248 | * The funny thing is, in tabletop games, one often can calculate the odds of success to a very high precision (though it's still not perfect since even well-made dice have slight imperfections). |
| 249 | ** Percentile-based resolution mechanics in particular can edge into this. Most real or fictional people ''won't'' ever be able to estimate their own or anyone else's "skill rating" or other overall performance to even such a level of precision as "Stealth 43%"--and yet, there you get it listed right on the character sheet. |
| 250 | * ''TabletopGame/FengShui'': The Gambler Archetype has this as its Unique Schtick. |
| 251 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Munchkin}}'' has a monster called "3,872 Orcs". Because apparently your characters bother to count the orcs. Fortunately they count as one monster. |
| 252 | * [[TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}} Friend Computer]] will happily help you to analyze given data, calculate chances and present you the results that are available for your clearance. Success rates of Troubleshooter missions increase by 740% with the use of thorough data analysis. |
| 253 | %%* The dates in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' are already quite precise as the title indicates it takes place after 40,000AD. It's stated that the Fornax Aleph was struck by an asteroid on May 9, 40,578. |
| 254 | [[/folder]] |
| 255 | |
| 256 | [[folder:Toys]] |
| 257 | * Used to enhance a BadassBoast by [[BigBad the Makuta Teridax]] in one of the ''{{Toys/Bionicle}}'' novels: |
| 258 | -->"... but we both know that there are a thousand ways I could destroy you right now. And 941 of them hurt." |
| 259 | [[/folder]] |
| 260 | |
| 261 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 262 | * The defining trait of Inō Tadataka in ''VideoGame/AkaSeka''. Keep in mind that the guy's [[NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed historical counterpart]] was the first person to draw a map of Japan. |
| 263 | * ''VideoGame/FE000000'': You can set up to 10 digits shown after the point. However, 3 digits of precision for most values and 5 for some which are generally better when shown more precisely are more than enough. |
| 264 | * Played for laughs in ''VideoGame/MetalWolfChaos'' where Jody flat-out ''guessing'' it will take the Alcatraz Cannon four minutes to recharge turns out to be accurate to the nearest hundredth of a second. |
| 265 | * Lampshaded in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuest 6'': |
| 266 | -->'''[[ProjectedMan Manuel Auxveride]]:''' Once the Divalium crystal has been repaired, our electrical system re-established, and the engines fired, I am 97.2 percent certain [that the spacecraft can continue on its way].\ |
| 267 | '''Roger Wilco:''' Why only 97.2 percent?\ |
| 268 | '''Manuel Auxveride:''' I judged 97.2 to sound more hip to our audience than would 100. [[YouJustHadToSayIt You would have to mention it.]]\ |
| 269 | '''Roger Wilco:''' Sorry.\ |
| 270 | '''Manuel Auxveride:''' Don't apologize to me. It's the players you ruined it for. |
| 271 | * ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': The American version of Pokédex entries are known for converting round metric numbers into imperial measures without any rounding. Thus all small Pokémon are lumped into measurements of either 4 inches, 8 inches, 1 foot, 1 foot 4 inches, etc. And in the case of temperature: "Regice cloaks itself with frigid air of negative 328 degrees Fahrenheit." In Japan, it's -200 degrees Celsius. |
| 272 | * In ''Spirited Heart'', when demon ChildProdigy Hade gets selected to become a scientist at the King's Royal Laboratory, one of the teachers notes that she is at least forty years younger than the previous youngest researcher. She corrects the teacher by saying that she's the youngest by exactly "Forty-seven years, six months, and two weeks". |
| 273 | * Fi, the local ExpositionFairy of ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', loves to throw out [[IfMyCalculationsAreCorrect percentages]] any time a possibility arises. Though the numbers are a lot broader than other examples on this page, always a multiple of 5, she still gives them in uncertain situations when such probabilities should be incalculable. As with [[MillionToOneChance most examples of this]], the suggested possibility is ''always'' the case, even though Fi gives probabilities ranging from 40% to 95% (never 100%). Apparently she's not very confident, even though she's always right. She does use an absolute one time, however: when [[spoiler: you are about to enter Demise's realm]], Fi tells you [[PointOfNoReturn there is a 0% chance of you returning unless you are able to defeat him.]] The fact that she almost never uses absolutes makes it all the more chilling when she does. And more comically, the only other time she uses an absolute (100%) is when she is calculating your chances of being irritated by a crow pooping on your head. |
| 274 | * ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' |
| 275 | ** Sho Minamimoto. Seriously, the incantation he uses for his ultimate attack is reciting 156 digits of pi, rightfully earning him, at least at time of writing, the page image for MouthfulOfPi. |
| 276 | ** Konishi also gives the exact amount of time Sho's late to a meeting when he's first introduced. |
| 277 | * While [[ExpandedUniverse not appearing in the games themselves]], ''Franchise/{{Touhou|Project}}'s'' Renko Usami has this with her ability to read the time from the stars, right down to the second at the very least. It's assumed her accuracy when getting her location from the moon is just as precise. |
| 278 | * Admiral T'nae of ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline'' has a habit of stating probabilities that something will happen in percentages out to two decimal places. |
| 279 | * In ''{{VideoGame/Tyrian}}'', according to one data transmission the Zica race have been dead for 421965032 years, 14 days, and 32 minutes (SCI estimation, of course). |
| 280 | * ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate'' measures damage percentages to an extra decimal point, although the digit after the decimal is significantly smaller. |
| 281 | * M1014 in ''VideoGame/GirlsFrontline'' is afraid of heights, specifically noting that even getting in an elevator makes her antsy if it goes any higher than exactly 3.54 meters. |
| 282 | * ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'': Not only is your empire's degree of culture [[TwentyPercentMoreAwesome quantified]], it's even given to one decimal place. |
| 283 | * Raven from ''VideoGame/Code7'' is very good at seeing the dementions of things; for example, when entering a corridor on Heleos Station, she immediately informs you it's around 3.4 times 1.85 meters in dementions. Because of this ability, she is often annoyed when things aren't aligned properly. |
| 284 | * ''VideoGame/ZeroXOneZeroC'' takes place in the year 281,474,976,712,644. 0x is a prefix used in C, a computer programming language. Specifically, 0x10c is equal to 16^12, the number of years since 1988, after people were put in a deep sleep. |
| 285 | * This can overlap with PinballScoring, especially games like ''VideoGame/GigaWing'', which apparently has a top world score of ''78,136,033,738,740''. |
| 286 | * ''VideoGame/CozyGrove'' gives its version numbers in more detail than the average player will need. For example, the version that the [=PS4=] knows as 1.07 is "Version [=1.7.1.s+210508-0128+5c7229c-E33=]" on the Options menu. |
| 287 | * Sports videogames such as ''Baseball Mogul,'' ''Madden'' and ''NCAA Football'' can be prone to this dynamic when players get injured. A player is hurt, and five minutes later the game provides an ironclad diagnosis and the exact number of games he'll miss. The player will miss ''exactly'' that number of games, and the figure doesn't change at all during his convalescence. In the real world, of course, injuries can take a little time to diagnose, and estimates of missed time are just that -- estimates. Later editions of ''Madden'' would tweak this a little by providing an initial estimate of games missed, then give the person controlling the team the opportunity to bring back the player a couple weeks early with lower ratings and a greater injury risk. |
| 288 | [[/folder]] |
| 289 | |
| 290 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 291 | * The original ''WebVideo/LeeroyJenkinsVideo'': [[MemeticMutation "I'm coming up with thirty-two point three three, repeating of course, percentage of survival."]] (The [[GeniusBonus subtler]] joke is that "thirty-''three'' point three three repeating" is an [[SesquipedalianLoquaciousness overelaborate]] way of saying "1 in 3 chance," a much more believable result; so their statistics guy probably doesn't know what he's doing, much like the rest of the team.) |
| 292 | ** [[AscendedMeme Ascended]] to Ulduar, where the [[http://www.wowpedia.org/Archivum_Console Archivum Console]] spouts a similar line. |
| 293 | * Battle for Dream Island's Golf Ball. "Woo! My chances of winning went from 5.555 repeating percent to 5.882 percent!" She tends to do this often. |
| 294 | [[/folder]] |
| 295 | |
| 296 | [[folder:Web Comics]] |
| 297 | * ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' is about {{Mad Scientist}}s, so it should be expected: |
| 298 | -->'''Agatha:''' ''[about an overdose of [[PsychoSerum funny water]]]'' I believe another forty-five point three seconds, and I would have ''exploded'' or something. |
| 299 | * In ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'', during the Fifth Game arc, Mega Man wonders who the next master is (after he had cut Gyro Man to ribbons), and then come to a card that says "Crystal Man" and the odds of it answering Mega Man's question; 1 in 2^24,036,583. |
| 300 | * [[http://www.jasonlove.com/cartoons/00605-funny-cartoons-baby-age.gif This trope is applied to a baby's age]] from Jason Love's cartoons. |
| 301 | * ''Webcomic/LeftoverSoup'' discussed--and, in fact, ''justified''--an example in [[http://www.leftoversoup.com/archive.php?num=201 the commentary to comic #201.]] |
| 302 | * DoubleSubverted, via TheRant, in [[http://www.davidcsimon.com/crimsondark/index.php?view=comic&strip_id=408 Chapter 11: Page 22]] of ''Webcomic/CrimsonDark''. A pair of {{cyborg}}s acting as {{mooks}} turn their weapons on [[TheDon their boss]], and explain as follows: |
| 303 | --> '''Shade:''' Marcus and I ran fifty-seven combat simulations while you were pontificating. He and I only survived in thirty-two percent of the outcomes. We concluded those odds were unacceptable.\ |
| 304 | '''TheRant:''' Shade really means 31.578947368421052631578947368421%, but [[JustifiedTrope she has noticed that such precision tends to make people uncomfortable, so she is content to swallow her pride and approximate.]] |
| 305 | * ''WebComic/{{Chiasmata}}'''s [[ExpositionFairy Archivist]]. |
| 306 | --> "Incorrect. It is not alive. I believe it has been dead for approximately two quadrillion, three hundred and five trillion, forty-three billion, six hundred and fifty-four million, five hundred and twenty-eight thousand, eight hundred and three seconds. The margin of error is one point eight five nine one three seconds, almost intolerably large." |
| 307 | * ''Webcomic/{{Xkcd}}'' discusses this in relation to precision of latitude and longitude coordinates in [[https://www.xkcd.com/2170/ comic 2170]]. |
| 308 | [[/folder]] |
| 309 | |
| 310 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 311 | * {{Discussed|Trope}} in Creator/AdamNeely's video [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHEPmg0sPo "This BPM is Trash, and Here's Why"]], where he explains that there is (almost) no reason to ever define a music's tempo in fractional beats per minute, because humans cannot perceive such fine differences anyway, and even when an offbeat is audible, the ''musician'' often does not perceive it as such, and musical scores are imprecise by their nature in any case, meaning that different people may record precisely the same sound in a different way. The only real use for fractional beats per minute is if one needs to precisely synchronize a soundtrack to a film, since even imperceptible differences would add up after a while, but even then, he doesn't like it. |
| 312 | * In ''Literature/{{Brennus}}'', Brennus and Polymnia give ludicrously precise measurements for the depth of the Diggerer's tunnel (1.121134 miles beneath sea level). Exposed's blog gives her measurements as 1.71837468991 meters tall and weighing 78.22223485771 kilograms. |
| 313 | * In ''Fanfic/FarceOfTheThreeKingdoms'', when the Emperor asks him, Guan Yu knows precisely how many hairs there are in his beard. |
| 314 | * ''WebVideo/LinusTechTips'': One of the many problems discussed in "[[https://youtu.be/2K5Gqp1cEcM?t=1020 Why our Screwdriver took 3 YEARS]]" said the ratchet would jam on one of the production samples. The problem turned out to be a lever made 1/5000ths of an inch out of spec. Because it's a lever, the error ended up getting multiplied and causing the jam. |
| 315 | * In [=YouTube=] channel [=REDEngineer=]'s [[FollowTheLeader community post]] [[WebVideo/DeadMeat kill counts]], percentages and averages are calculated as far as the tenth decimal point. |
| 316 | ** This was dropped after ''Foundations of the World'', the DeadFic sequel to ''Fanfic/TheSunSoul''. |
| 317 | * Several of the {{creepypasta}}s featured in WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}'s Crappy Pasta series tend to be rather specific about time, producing such sentences as "This continued for 25 seconds" or "I sat there for maybe 25 seconds, horrified by what had just happened." Even funnier, the times themselves are often implausible, like spending 10 minutes running Mario down a featureless corridor. |
| 318 | * ''WebVideo/SandersSides'' has [[LiteralMinded Logan]] demonstrate this. |
| 319 | --> Deceit: Do you recall when Thomas was informed about the... wedding thing? |
| 320 | --> Logan: I do. It was 6 months, 4 days, 3 hours, and 1 minute ago. |
| 321 | --> Deceit: So he's known for a while. And when did Thomas hear about this callback? |
| 322 | --> Logan: 2 hours, 15 minutes, 45 seconds... 46 seconds... 47 seconds– |
| 323 | --> Roman, exasperated: TODAY! |
| 324 | --> Logan: Today. |
| 325 | * The UK Staples website lists some office chairs as having a maximum loading of "110 kgs''[sic]''" or "17.25 stone". Apart from the question of what on earth a kilogram-second is supposed to be, one also has to wonder whether those extra 3.5 pounds really make any difference. |
| 326 | * In ''WebVideo/TalesFromMyDDCampaign'', the heroes learn that if they engage Lord Kintemazu, he will kill exactly 1.5 of them. This seriously creeps the heroes out as they try to figure out how he could know the outcome of a combat so accurately. |
| 327 | * {{Website/Wikipedia}} articles sometimes fall victim to this; for instance, the article on [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_One_%28roller_coaster%29 The Big One roller coaster]] stated that its £12,000,000 cost to build equated to "$19,669,316" -- which assumed that the cost was '''''exactly''''' £12,000,000.00 to the penny (and used the wrong conversion rate anyway; probably the rate current at the time of editing, rather than at the time the coaster opened in 1994). A far more reasonable statement of the cost would be $20,000,000 (or $18,000,000 if the correct conversion is used). |
| 328 | ** Averted if the [[DependingOnTheWriter editor]] uses the convert template, which automatically takes care of significant digits. |
| 329 | [[/folder]] |
| 330 | |
| 331 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 332 | * D'Nerd in ''WesternAnimation/TheBotsMaster'' often spouted off really precise statistics, though this took a backseat to his being completely incapable of carrying a standard conversation. |
| 333 | -->"Calm down, D'Nerd, it's just playacting."\ |
| 334 | "Playacting? Playacting is a compound intransitive verb..." |
| 335 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': |
| 336 | ** In "The Wizard Of Evergreen Terrace", Homer hears that the average man lives to be 76.2 years old, and freaks out because, since he's 38.1, his life is half gone. He's more upset when Marge points out that he's actually 39. |
| 337 | ** In "Lisa's Sax", which is a WholeEpisodeFlashback, toddler Lisa is asked how old she is. The answer "Three and three-eighths" helps ascertain that she's a genius. |
| 338 | * This is J. Jonah Jameson's gimmick in ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderman''. "I want that report in 18 seconds!" When Peter first met him he was ranting that he'd emailed that Parker kid 76 minutes ago. |
| 339 | -->'''Peter:''' Boss, I'd like a word.\ |
| 340 | '''Jameson:''' How about "scram?" Or two words: "Scram, kid?" Or 17: "Get out of my office in two-point-three seconds or I'll staple you to a flagpole?!"\ |
| 341 | '''Peter:''' How did you count so--?! Never mind. |
| 342 | * Exploited in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius'', when Jimmy came up with an idea to get rid of his robotic servants on a mission to "correct error" who [[KillAllHumans had reasoned humans are inherently extreme errors that must be deleted.]] When Jimmy said pi equals 3, the robots tried to [[MouthfulOfPi correct him]], exploding before they achieved Ludicrous Precision. |
| 343 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheAngryBeavers'': Daggett achieves this while hiding under the floorboards. |
| 344 | -->'''Daggett:''' A bug... two bugs... four bugs... ''[explodes out through the floor]'' AAAAH! 4023 BUGS! |
| 345 | * Ron in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' goes through an entire episode like this, despite not being the brainy one... he just takes a big interest in his dad's work (Mr. Stoppable is an actuary). |
| 346 | * ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'': |
| 347 | ** In the episode "Fall Weather Friends", Pinkie Pie is commentating on the Running of the Leaves, and at one point she tries to figure out exactly how far ahead of Applejack Rainbow Dash is: |
| 348 | --->'''Pinkie Pie:''' She's ahead by half a nose! Or maybe three-quarters of a nose! No, about 63.7% of a nose! ''[sees Spike staring at her]'' ...Roughly speaking. |
| 349 | ** In "Just for Sidekicks", when Rarity is directing Spike about caring for her cat Opalescence, she proclaims that Opal requires a precise 81.4 degrees (scale unspecified, presumed to be Fahrenheit) to be comfortable. When she is in the library to hand Opal off to Spike, she states, "It's a chilly 81.2 in here." |
| 350 | * The ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' example above is spoofed in ''WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies'', where Gonzo (as Spock) takes so long to say the fractions on the odds that he has to be cut off by someone. |
| 351 | * In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'', the heroes are in a castle that is being beseiged by an army of skeleton warriors. Peter wonders how many there are, and Egon counts out the exact number. Peter quickly tells him he [[RhetoricalQuestionBlunder didn't really want an answer]]. And that's not the only instance of Egon engaging in this trope. |
| 352 | * One of the characteristics of the ClockKing in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''. |
| 353 | -->'''Temple Fugate:''' [[MeaningfulName Fugate]], Temple Fugate. [[SmallNameBigEgo I would think you’d remember my name by now, Counselor]]. [[ScheduleFanatic We have been only taking the same train every day...]] ''[consulting his wristwatch with more hands than shiva, not his pocket chain clock]'' ... for one year, seven months and thirteen days.\ |
| 354 | '''Temple Fugate:''' Thirty-seven pages? That would take a copier exactly one minute and 49 seconds. One more delay like this and you're fired! |
| 355 | * An episode of ''{{Series/Stingray1964}}'' had the villain torturing Marina by slow electrocution. According to the dialogue, for her species the difference between a non-fatal and a fatal dose is very precisely defined, and is only a few volts. |
| 356 | * Parodied in ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'', where one episode begins with Cyril trying to present a report where he insists on using metric units, which Archer and Mallory both complain about. From then on in the episode, they always replace any approximate or idiomatic use of units to exact metric conversation, like Archer making a "[[GagPenis firm 12 inch]]" joke and sarcastically correcting himself with ".305 meters". |
| 357 | * In the first episode of ''WesternAnimation/DrawnTogether'', Xandir claims to have died 8,293,506 times (not counting quad forces and power ups) saving his girlfriend...and he's gay. |
| 358 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'' episode "Have You Seen This Snail?", the "Dirty Bubble Challenge" can be beaten by hitting a paddleball over 29,998,559,671,349 times in a row. |
| 359 | * Applied then subverted in ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls1998'' episode "Him Diddle Riddle". The girls are tasked with determining where two trains will collide as part of a series of riddles. Blossom frantically works with an abacus then tosses it to the side saying "We're superheroes. Let's just find the trains and stop them!" |
| 360 | * In ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse2021'', when Teela asks her ParentalSubstitute Man-E-Faces how long he's known her, his Machine face can calculate the time down to the second; Sixteen years, nine months, four days, three hours, and point-seven minutes. |
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| 364 | * This is the default display mode for floating point numbers in computers. And given that floating point numbers tend to be wrong by some billionth, you usually end up with way more decimal places than needed. |
| 365 | * The "normal" body temperature of humans is often given as 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit. This is due to an adjustment to the original scale to a more precise division. It was originally based on the freezing point of water (30 degrees by the previous scale he was basing his on) and human normal body temperature (90 degrees by the older scale). He adjusted it to 32/96 to make 64 intervals between the two. It was later adjusted again to make the freezing and boiling points more precisely 32 and 212, respectively, making body temperature 'about' 98. |
| 366 | ** Alternatively, it's what you get when you convert 37.0 degrees Celsius to Fahrenheit (noting that body temperature can vary by around half a degree over the course of a day) and retain the spurious precision. |
| 367 | * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_films#Worldwide_highest-grossing_films Film box office figures]] (specially for recent productions) only lack cents to be more precise. |
| 368 | * John Stossel (Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity) reported in one of his books how the average weight of a bird was given in grams to one decimal place. This was done by converting the real estimate from Imperial to Metric and adding "drama digits." The real estimate was "about half a pound." It just goes to show what significant digits are for. |
| 369 | * This trope pops up every now and then when conversions are involved. When combined with BlindIdiotTranslation, this can give interesting conversions where a person may proclaim that something is e.g. "approximately 9.144 meters away" (30 feet) or "weighing at least 90.718474 kilograms" (200 lbs). |
| 370 | ** One example of this is in the altitude display of certain flight seat-back entertainment systems, which appear to measure in thousands of feet, but display in both metres and feet. Occasionally one can see the display jump from 9144 to 8839 metres due to this. |
| 371 | ** Some translated cookbooks originally using Fahrenheit scale will tell you to set your oven at a Celsius temperature of 1 degree precision, or vice versa. |
| 372 | ** There was a fair amount of bafflement with American editions of some of Phaidon's cookbook line, especially their stupendously popular Silver Spoon books; since Phaidon frequently doesn't include metric measurements in their American editions, you will frequently be asked for the seemingly random quantity of 2 1/4 lb (~=1kg) of something. Ironically, some of their less-popular books retain the metric measurements across national editions, eliminating the problem. |
| 373 | ** The recipe for IKEA cream sauce (for their Swedish meatballs) has a similar issue: it was obviously written for metric measurements, as the recipe in America calls for 1 1/5 (!) cups of water. 1/5 cup is ''not'' a usual measurement in American cooking (divisions are usually by powers of two, or by thirds), making measurement of this amount problematic. Oddly, the problem could have been avoided - 1 1/5 cups converts to ~283 mL, whereas 1 1/'''4''' cups (~296 mL) would be closer to the original intent of 300 mL (which is indeed 1 1/5 cups, but using the "metric cup" of 250 mL seen in places such as Australia). |
| 374 | * Guinness claims the perfect double-pour of its draught beer takes 119.53 seconds. Apparently if you take that extra .47 seconds for an even 2 minutes you've ruined your beer entirely. |
| 375 | * In the hard sciences (especially physics and chemistry) the use of significant digits is a necessity to correctly reflect the variations between measuring devices and to understand the meaning of the margin of error (and use it). If you are measuring something to the thousandth decimal place, having a reading that just goes to the tenth decimal place is an incongruity (if you are using the same device you can't have both .005 and .05 as measurements; the second number has to be .050 or something with that added decimal place). All that said, unless you are going into something like particle physics there is almost no real world need to be that precise (i.e. a house isn't going to collapse if you are .5 cm off on the span of a beam). This is also part of the reason a lot of old-line engineers miss slide rules -- taking calculator results too literally frequently leads to false precision when it isn't needed. However, besides physics, in classical analytical chemistry (i.e., the kind that nobody does anymore since the advent of spectrometry and spectroscopy methods: gravimetry, titrations, potentiometric analysis etc.) high precision is ''vital'' if it's a quantitative analysis. Same goes for reagent masses in synthesis. Yes, it can really make a difference if you use 0.572 instead of 0.579 g of a reagent. |
| 376 | * Engineers or students with no practical experience often fall prey to this, because they still think of their results as mathematical abstractions. |
| 377 | * This trope has been blamed for the failure to get Americans to use the SI system back in the 1970's. When told they had to learn and calculate multi-digit conversion factors, they instantly despised the whole idea. Ironically, they now happily buy 2-liter soda bottles, run 5K races, and shoot 9-millimeter bullets, because some smart marketers realized that the conversions were irrelevant. |
| 378 | ** It's still present in Canada because the American and Canadian markets and infrastructure are so intertwined. On official government-issued construction plans, you may see notations stating that the floor will be constructed of 38x89mm joists covered by sheets of 1220 x 2440 x 25.4 mm plywood. Anyone actually doing the construction will talk about 2x4 joists and 4x8 foot sheets of 1-inch plywood. |
| 379 | * [[InvokedTrope Deliberately invoked]] with the calculation of the highest point of Mount Everest, known as Peak XV. Its height, calculated in 1856 by surveyors during the Great Trigonometric Survey as the average of several independent measurements, came to exactly 29,000 feet. Two extra feet were then arbitrarily added, bringing the official height to 29,002 feet, so that the value did not look like a rounded estimate. |
| 380 | * The most basic units in the International System of Measures are defined in this way: a meter, for instance, is equal to the distance that light travels in ''precisely'' 1/299,792,458 seconds. For that matter, a second is exactly the length of time it takes for a particular isotope of caesium to oscillate between two states 9,192,631,770 times. This was done instead of rounding off so that the units (which are actually pretty arbitrary) would be of the same magnitude both before and after their redefinitions. For the longest time, the kilogram was the only unit not defined this way, being tied into a physical prototype instead, but the 2019 redefinition of SI units has now brought it into this territory by tying its definition in with the Planck constant. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit) mole]] used to subvert this prior to the redefinition: a mole is a group of atoms equal in number to the Avogadro constant, which itself has only 11 significant figures out of a possible 23, meaning that two moles of the same substance could have a difference of as many as two trillion molecules or atoms between them. The redefinition of Avogadro's number as having ''exactly'' the number it has now (effectively saying that the remaining digits in those 23 possible significant figures were all zeroes) means that the mole is also now firmly in this territory. |
| 381 | * The doctrine of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_responsibility comparative responsibility]][[note]]Also called comparative fault and comparative negligence[[/note]] in American law has gotten kind of weird on account of this trope. Comparative responsibility allows a negligent plaintiff to recover in an action in negligence; the simplest and probably most common example is between two drivers, both driving unsafely but with one driver being more unsafe than the other (e.g. Alice running a red light and going 15 over the speed limit vs. Bob just going 10 over). The general rule in comparative responsibility is that the less negligent party can collect from the more negligent one, but the amount the less-negligent plaintiff can collect is less than if he/she was completely innocent. All of this is a simplification; the actual details of the doctrine can get annoyingly convoluted. In Britain, the strange and complex rule worked OK, because Britain had already abandoned jury trials in most civil cases, but in America the civil jury trial remained alive and well. This created a problem--how to explain the rule to the jury, which is of course composed of people who don't know the first thing about torts law? Judges decided that in they would tell juries to assign a percentage amount of fault. This was intended to be a rule of thumb, with juries expected to give answers in nice round numbers (eg. 60/40, 80/20, what have you). Instead, we find juries assigning fault in amounts like 43.75/56.25[[note]]''Petrolane Inc. v. Robles'', 154 P.2d 1014 (Alaska 2007).[[/note]] or even 68.94/31.06[[note]]''Duncan v. Kansas City S. Ry. Co.'', 773 So.2d 670 (La. 2000).[[/note]] The former ratio is an ''excellent'' example of conversion making a number look more precise than it actually is; 43.75:56.25 actually reduces to 7:9. |
| 382 | * So far one of the few practical applications for ludicrous precision that many people take for granted is GPS. Each GPS satellite constantly transmits its current time and position. A GPS receiver uses the differences in the time reports it receives from multiple satellites to calculate its position. The clocks in the satellites have to be really, ''really'' accurate, on the order of within 30ns of each other, to allow the receivers to display position as precisely as they do. The satellites carry rubidium clocks, a type of atomic clock, and even these must be monitored and adjusted daily because {{UsefulNotes/Relativity}} will cause the clocks to drift relative to time on the surface of the Earth. |
| 383 | * One convenience food packet instructed users to use "18 fl. oz." or "511 ml" of water in cooking it. Whilst accurate conversions of each other, neither measurement is achievable using a kitchen measuring jug; at that end of the scale, the divisions are usually to the nearest 5 fl.oz. or 25 ml. It would have been more reasonable to say 20 fl. oz. or 500 ml. In the U.S., you would be more likely to see "2 1/4 cup" for the former, which would indeed correspond to 18 fluid ounces. |
| 384 | %% Where is that last example from? Britain? It would be a non-issue in the United States, because our measuring cups do measure to the nearest 2 fluid ounces by default, as "1/4 cup", so 18 fluid ounces would be handled without too much trouble. On the other hand, measuring to the nearest 5 fluid ounces isn't a usual practice in the United States, likely because the local definition of a pint is not the same as on the other side of the pond--16 ounces instead of 20, so a quarter of a pint in the U.S. would be 4 ounces, not 5. |
| 385 | * In Quantum Electrodynamics (the quantum mechanical theory of electricity and magnetism), the measurement of something called the fine structure constant [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_tests_of_QED has an uncertainty of only around 1 part in a hundred million]] |
| 386 | * According to the [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30954673 BBC]], the New Horizons probe's closest approach to Pluto was ''roughly'' 13,695km. |
| 387 | * In computer and communication systems, the timing of signals is important to maintaining communication. Most communication protocols have a fixed speed they talk at. While the time scales of these speeds have gotten insane, to the point where ''pico''seconds are a practical scale, the ludicrous precision part is the tolerance allowed in certain protocols. For example, if a protocol requires a 15 [=MHz=] signal to be accurate within 1 part per million, the signal itself cannot drift by more than 15 [=Hz=], ''ever''. |
| 388 | * Each 250ml bottle of Original Source Mint shower gel is made with 7,927 leaves of mint. Because, as we all know, using only 7,926 leaves just wouldn't cut it. |
| 389 | * During the supercomputer Watson's run on ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'', whenever Watson was asked to make a wager in Daily Double or Final Jeopardy, it would bet amounts as precise as the show's rules would allow, based on its calculations on how likely its answer was correct. Human players almost always bet round numbers. Watson, instead, would bet amounts like $6435 or $947. (Arguably, it could be used as an error check; if it got two separate answers right or wrong, but the bet amounts were wildly different, it could mean something about either Watson's data, or the logic it used to pick the answer in each case. The same as every other contestant, really.) |
| 390 | * Every video on Website/{{YouTube}} tells the exact number of views it's had. This can get very impressive when some have views in the ''billions''. [=YouTube=] is simply the largest video sharing site, but really any lesser known website with videos or games could qualify. The number of views on a channel are even '''higher'''. |
| 391 | * Many dates in the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future far future]] qualify, the most precise date being that on the 27th and 28th of March, 224,508, Venus and Mercury will transit the Sun. The most precise year is AD 571,471, when a simultaneous transit of Venus and the Earth will be seen from Mars. |
| 392 | * Many of the highest numbers [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers) here.]] The highest precise number listed (and possibly the highest ever of any quantifiable data) is the number of legal positions in the ''{{TabletopGame/Go}}'' game, consisting of 170 digits. |
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