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7	[[caption-width-right:801:Getting a [[FMinusMinus D--]] on his last school assignment wasn't enough to teach him a lesson...]]
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9	-> ''"Live and don't learn, that's us."''
10	-->-- '''Hobbes''', ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes''
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12	Combining HypocriticalHumor and AnAesop. The characters summarize a lesson they have learned, then immediately follow up with something that shows that [[AesopAmnesia they haven't learned anything after all]]. The characters, not quite done with reflecting on their own actions, may then proceed to further discuss what possible lessons they have learned. By the time they're finished the audience is clearly convinced that if there was ever any moral to the preceding story, it has been thoroughly and completely lost.
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14	This is often a good way to [[JustifiedTrope justify]] AesopAmnesia -- after all, the equivalent of an Aesop-based kung-fu scene should leave everyone, including the viewer, sufficiently confused as to the purpose of the story that it's hard to hold it against the characters for failing to realize how they could apply this knowledge to other situations. This will most commonly end with characters concluding that they haven't learned anything, or they'll spend the ending of the show desperately trying to come up with an Aesop that works as a result.
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16	See also HereWeGoAgain, SpoofAesop, LostAesop.
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18	Compare IgnoredEpiphany.
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20	!!Examples:
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24	* Used in the ''Manga/AstroBoy'' story "Mad Machine," where, after being arrested, villain of the week Dr. Foola promises to give up his amoral money-grubbing ways--before snapping his handcuffs and offering to sell better ones to his guards.
25	* ''Manga/{{Gintama}}'': Gintoki wakes up one day [[WhatDidIDoLastNight after a drinking night]] to find out that [[BedmateReveal he slept]] with Otose. And Sacchan, and Tae, and Tsukuyo, [[OverlyLongGag and Kyuubei]], and he has to face the consequences of it. In the end it turns out that [[spoiler: He didn't slept with any of them, and it was part of an elaborate prank on their part to convince him to stop drinking]]. He learns the lesson and decides to stop drinking. Then he discovers that [[spoiler: while nothing actually happened with any of the women, it really did with [[HoYay Hasegawa]]]], and decides to drink as much as he can to [[BrainBleach forget it ever happened]].
26	* In ''Anime/YuGiOhTheDarkSideOfDimensions'', Kaiba spends much of the film in an obsessive state, trying futilely to see Atem while being told that Atem has moved on and isn't coming back, with Yugi recompleting the Puzzle to prove it. Throughout the movie Yugi and his friends have moved on from the loss, Yugi gives Kaiba a speech directly telling him to move on, and [[spoiler:Atem himself takes the Puzzle to the afterlife with him]]. Kaiba then decides that [[spoiler:if he can't bring Atem back, he'll meet Atem by going to the afterlife instead, leaving Mokuba to run his company in his stead]].
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30	* This is PlayedForDrama in ''ComicBook/{{Maus}}''. Art Spiegelman is horrified to realize that his father Vladek, a Jewish Holocaust survivor and the subject of the biography, is [[RacistGrandpa racist against black people]], to the point that when he sees a black hitchhiker, he immediately declares that the hitchhiker is a thief. Art calls him out for this, but Vladek says that [[MoralMyopia it's okay to be racist against black people, but not Jews]].
31	* ''ComicBook/SevenMissionaries'': Seven Irish monks each representing one of the SevenDeadlySins are sent on a mission to convert fierce Vikings or die trying. They succeed, in no small part thanks to those same sins, and show no sign of having improved.
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35	* Invoked in the ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'' fic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13653421/1/Ash-s-Adventure-Girls-Hunter-Edition Ash's Adventure: Girls' Hunter Edition]]''; Misty notes that while she could get Gary banned from the League for his attempt to catch her as a [=PokeGirl=] before establishing who she was, Gary would just cry and complain and make a fuss about it rather than actually learn his lesson, so it's considered more 'fun' for her to help Ash become a good enough trainer to beat Gary.
36	* Examples from ''Fanfic/TheCalvinverse'':
37	** The moral of Chapter 7 of ''Fanfic/CalvinAndHobbesGetXtreme'', according to Hobbes, is that too much sugar is bad. At that moment, Calvin happens to be sipping some root beer...
38	** From ''Fanfic/CalvinAndHobbesTheSeries'':
39	--->'''Sherman:''' Well, you know, there is a lesson to learned from all this.\
40	'''MTM:''' Really? What's that, then?\
41	'''Sherman:''' That mankind has developed a too much dependency on electricity. We should all learn to be a little less conditioned to be so electric and so forth. This three days without electricity actually could have done us some good.\
42	''({{beat}})''\
43	'''Socrates:''' [[IgnoredEpiphany Who cares? THE ELECTRICITY'S COMING BACK ON IN 90 SECONDS!!!]]
44	* In ''Fanfic/TheChosenSix'', the Malfoys are forced to acknowledge as early as Draco's first year that their attitude towards Draco has left him with an inflated sense of his own importance and ability. Despite Narcissa acknowledging that Lucius stepping in won't help Draco learn anything, Draco himself continues to blame others for his shortcomings rather than accept that he made his own mistakes.
45	* ''Fanfic/CommonSense'': Damien abandoned Charmander for being "weak"; upon seeing that the little fire lizard was stronger than he'd thought, he tried to take him back, only to be violently rejected. Rather than learning anything from this, Damien's grown even ''more'' abusive since then, [[DeniedFoodAsPunishment starving]] and [[CorporalPunishment beating]] his pokémon whenever they don't meet his standards. [[spoiler:James sees this and robs him of all his pokémon.]]
46	* ''Fanfic/Digimon02TheStoryWeNeverTold'': Despite how much Cody admires his grandfather, he completely ignores how he's constantly encouraging him to keep an open mind, especially when it comes to the matter of [[TheAtoner Ken]]. No matter how much evidence mounts that the former Digimon Emperor has truly changed, or how willing others are to grant him the benefit of the doubt, Cody refuses to do so himself.
47	* ''Fanfic/VillainOfYourOwnStory'': After learning about how the Ladybug Earrings and Black Cat Ring can be combined to MakeAWish, Alya decides that'd be the ''perfect'' way to learn Hawkmoth's secret identity, blowing off Marinette's warnings that RealityWarpingIsNotAToy. This creates an AlternateUniverse where ''Alya'' was Hawkmoth all along, and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor nothing turned out the way she expected]]. So Alya decides that her best course of action is to keep "playing" the villain, get the Earrings and Ring again, and make ''another'' Wish -- because ''clearly'' something went wrong with the first one, and the best way to fix it is to try again!
48	* ''Fanfic/TheWildHorseThesis'': Unlike the other fiancées, Shampoo never grasps the idea that Ranma doesn't like her because the possessive way she treats him and her violent efforts to get rid of any rivals eliminates any attraction he might have felt. She even attempts to attack Rei and Asuka the moment she gets the chance.
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51	[[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]
52	* PlayedForDrama in ''Film/AttackOfTheClones''; a big part of what starts Anakin's [[StartOfDarkness fall to the Dark Side]] is when he tries to save his mother from the Sand People, [[AllForNothing only for her to die anyways]]. Anakin ignores the obvious Aesop staring him in the face (that death is a natural part of life and there are limits to even a Jedi's power) in favor of the worst one imaginable (that he couldn't save his mother because he wasn't powerful enough and the other Jedi are holding him back).
53	* PlayedForLaughs at the end of ''Film/TheDictator''. Aladeen is led by his StrawFeminist LoveInterest to the conclusion that DemocracyIsFlawed rather than DemocracyIsBad, and swears to draft a real constitution and hold elections. It then immediately shows him rigging the elections by using tanks to intimidate the voters. However, it's implied that he TookALevelInKindness (at least slightly) and [[RepressiveButEfficient stopped trying to have people killed left and right]].
54	* A running theme in the Three Flavours Cornetto Trilogy (''Film/ShaunOfTheDead'', ''Film/HotFuzz'', ''Film/TheWorldsEnd''). In all three films, Creator/SimonPegg's character fails to do anything about the obvious lesson he should learn from events - Shaun keeps on half-arsing his life, Nicholas Angel doesn't learn how to switch off from being an absurdly dedicated Police Officer, and Gary King doesn't grow up (although he does quit drinking, [[spoiler:so the man who messes up his friends lives and ''causes an apocalypse'' by his drunken immaturity is now... just immature]]).
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58	* This trope PlayedForLaughs is a running gag in the Literature/SweetPickles series of kids' books. A few examples:
59	** After spending the entire book blaming everyone else for her missing shoe and for all the problems that resulted from it, Alligator finds that she left it in the wrong place herself. She immediately blames the neighbor who pointed this out to her.
60	** Goose's house and yard are a huge mess because she spends all her time goofing off and never picks up after herself. She has decided to spend the day "taking it easy" and ignoring all the things that need to be done. After ignoring multiple other problems, she is forced to actually take time to fix a problem before it gets worse. Rather than recognizing she should have been doing so all along, she's disappointed to have not gotten to spend the day taking it easy and vows to take it easy tomorrow, instead.
61	** Yak is so busy chattering and not listening to anyone else that he wrecks the taxi he is driving, despite Rabbit warning him several times about a road obstruction. He's oblivious as to why Rabbit is irritated and keeps chattering away to the tow truck driver.
62	** Rabbit is stressing himself out by overscheduling himself. His friends finally convince him that he needs to rest... which he will do, just as soon as he makes up a specific schedule for resting.
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66	* In an episode of ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' the Gang is hired to be the test audience for the newest instalment of their favorite movie series, and hate it due to it being a PG-13 reboot. They're told that the reason for this is because R-rated movies are pirated more often and that they should support franchises they enjoy, but they decide to retaliate by leaking the screening online. The studio then releases a proper sequel, only for the Gang to almost immediately decide to pirate it once realizing they'd have to do another mad dash across town to catch the next screening.
67	* ''Series/TheCatherineTateShow'' has an episode parodying [[YetAnotherChristmasCarol a certain Charles Dickens novel]]. At the end of the episode, there is a joke implying that the character hasn't changed at all from her experiences.
68	* In the ''Series/FatherTed'' ChristmasSpecial, Ted summarizes what he has learned:
69	-->'''Ted:''' You know Dougal, being in the priesthood - it's not about awards and glamour. It's about hard graft. It's about applying yourself to the spiritual needs of your parishioners...I could have turned into a bad priest... Selfish, arrogant, not given a damn about my parishioners...\
70	'''Dougal:''' ''(answering the phone)'' Ted, It's Mrs. Gilcuddy. She wants you to do one of those remembrance masses.\
71	'''Ted:''' I'm not in.
72	* In one ''Series/WillAndGrace'' episode, both the main characters have a favourite for the mayor of New York, on the basis that one candidate is gay and the other is a woman. They don't know anything else about their candidates, and when they host fundraisers they learn that both of them are horrible bigots. They realise that basing their opinions on the fact the candidate is a member of a minority group is a bad idea ... and are then both galvanised by the news that there's "a black guy".
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76	* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' did this a lot. For example, the end of the first "Duplicator" arc has Calvin attempting to describe the "valuable lesson" they learned from the incident. He shortly gives up, and Hobbes proclaims, "Live and don't learn, that's us".
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80	* In the finale of ''Theatre/DeathOfASalesman'', Happy takes the lesson of Willy Loman's death, throws it away, and runs the other way.
81	-->'''HAPPY:''' All right, boy. I'm gonna show you and everybody else that Willy Loman did not die in vain. He had a good dream. It's the only dream you can have—to come out number one man. He fought it out here, and this is where I'm gonna win it for him.
82	* At the finale of ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'', Todd thanks [[spoiler:Mrs. Lovett]] for finally helping him to understand the moral of the story, "learn forgiveness and try to forget." Then he pushes [[spoiler:her]] into an oven. Yeah, he was sarcastic alright.
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85	[[folder:Video Games]]
86	* ''VideoGame/{{Portal 2}}'' ends with [=GLaDOS=] having apparently learned [[spoiler:ThePowerOfFriendship]], only to use that information to discover [[spoiler:where her remaining humanity is stored and delete it]]. She promptly returns with a second Aesop: "The best solution to a problem is usually [[KnowWhenToFoldEm the easiest one]]."
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90	* ''WebAnimation/CliffSide'': Waylon refuses to learn a lesson from the whole ordeal. Prompted by Jo, he admits to Cordie that he made everything up, but then quickly brushes past it. Facing off against Death Itself, he delivers a SpoofAesop about how you can manipulate people by giving them validation, then manages to salvage the situation by appealing to his self-interest.
91	-->'''Jo:''' ''[sighs]'' He didn't learn a thing.
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95	* In ''Webcomic/BobAndGeorge'', [[http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/000428c Megaman argues that violence is never the answer, and immediately resorts to it when Roll shows up]].
96	* In ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', Sarah [[http://egscomics.com/egsnp/2015-12-21 thinks]] about all the moments she's had with girls that point toward her being bisexual then brushes them off as being all incidental.
97	* In one ''{{Webcomic/PHD}}'' arc, "A Smithmas Carol", Professor Smith reflects how his SadistTeacher and {{Workaholic}} personas makes him a friendless/unlikable person, and sums up his musings with: "Eh who cares? I got tenure."
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100	[[folder:Western Animation]]
101	* One episode of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has the main characters [[TheHero Finn]], [[CanineCompanion Jake]], [[PrincessesRule Princess Bubblegum]], [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Marceline]], and [[CuteMachines Beemo]] trying to get their prized possessions back from a thief called a Door Lord. When they finally reach him (via ThePowerOfFriendship), the Door Lord refuses to give them their stuff back. Marceline then figures out that the Door Lord wanted them to learn that their treasures don't matter and that the real treasure was friendship. [[spoiler:They then beat up the Door Lord, and take back their stuff.]]
102	** Similarly, the entire point of the Magic Man episode is that Magic Man is a jerk, even though Finn tries to find other Aesops.
103	*** ''Adventure Time'' seems to be running with the lesson that sometimes people are jerks and not worth helping, but Finn has ChronicHeroSyndrome.
104	* Frequently, ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' will deliberately break its own Aesops for the sake of humor. An example is in the episode "Threat Levels". Francine begins a career in real estate, and Stan becomes jealous when she starts earning more income than he does. Stan tries to sabotage her career, but by the end of the episode, he comes to understand that you shouldn't be jealous of your partner's success and that you should take pride in their triumphs. However, even after learning this, he still sabotages her career anyway.
105	* An early episode of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' went right to the quick with this one:
106	-->'''Lois:''' "Well, Peter, I guess you learned a very valuable lesson."\
107	'''Peter:''' "Nope!"
108	* In ''WesternAnimation/TheGhostAndMollyMcGee'' episode "[[Recap/TheGhostAndMollyMcGeeS1E12NoGoodDeed No Good Deed]]", after all the trouble Daryll caused for his teachers, and for taking advantage of Molly trying to get him out of his bad behavior, Daryll still hasn't learned his lesson and went to perform another stunt that's going to get him in trouble with the principal, again.
109	* One episode of ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyBravo'' has him send away for a mail-order girlfriend, and what he receives is an [[AbhorrentAdmirer utter]] [[{{Gonk}} beast]] of a lady named Helga. Thus, rather than turn on the (ugh) "[[CasanovaWannabe Bravo Charm]][[TradeSnark ™]]" he does everything in his power to drive her away by dragging her to a bunch of "guy" things that he likes, like a Monster Truck rally and a wrestling match. Helga, however, ''loves'' all this stuff, all the same things Johnny likes in fact, and just becomes more and more enamored with him. In the end, Johnny realizes he's actually really enjoyed her company too and that "her not being pretty and not smelling too good" really doesn't matter when the two of them are clearly [[OneTrueLove made for each other]]. Though, rather than learning his lesson, he immediately shifts to his normal misogynistic "hey pretty mama" flirting... which repulses her and makes her dump him. [[TooDumbToLive He was SO close to figuring it out...]]
110	* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'': In one episode, Kim, Ron and the whole cheerleading squad return to Camp Wannaweep which has been converted to a cheer camp. Gil returns and has apparently been returned to normal -- everyone believes that he isn't evil anymore, except Ron. Ron repeatedly tries and fails to prove that he is still evil. It then turns out that Gil ''is'' still evil and Ron ends up saving the day. At the end of the episode, Kim, Ron, and Bonnie try to figure out what the lesson is. Ron suggests, "Normally I'd say we learned that suspicion and paranoia is bad, [[SubvertedSuspicionAesop except that's what saved us]]." After several more failed attempts, they all agree "Cheer camp stinks."
111	* The Cutie Mark Crusaders from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' are masters of this trope, most recently learning that they have to wait and do things properly rather than taking shortcuts, before promptly declaring they've waited long enough and heading off to find a shortcut.
112	** There was also the time they spent an episode forcing themselves to do things they're bad at, but think sound cool. They learned that they should be true to themselves, and respect their own talents. No, that doesn't mean they're going to try scooter riding, carpentry and singing; no, their true call must be ''comedy''. (They ''did'' just win an award for comedy at that point... because their EpicFail of a performance in the talent show made the audience laugh.)
113	* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' has a couple of examples.
114	** "Blood Feud":
115	--->'''Marge:''' The moral of the story is, a good deed is its own reward.\
116	'''Bart:''' Hey, we ''got'' a reward. The head is cool.\
117	'''Marge:''' Then... I guess the moral is no good deed goes unrewarded.\
118	'''Homer:''' Wait a minute. If I hadn't written that nasty letter, we wouldn't have gotten anything.\
119	'''Marge:''' Well... Then I guess the moral is the squeaky wheel gets the grease.\
120	'''Lisa:''' Perhaps there is no moral to this story.\
121	'''Homer:''' Exactly! Just a bunch of stuff that happened.\
122	'''Marge:''' But it certainly was a memorable few days.\
123	'''Homer:''' Amen to that!
124	** "Rosebud":
125	--->'''Homer:''' Well...we didn't get any money, but Mr. Burns got what he wanted. Marge, I'm confused! Is this a happy ending or a sad ending?\
126	'''Marge:''' [[StatusQuoIsGod It's an ending, that's enough.]]
127	** "Homer Goes to College" has a good time with this, as the actual moral in that episode is a lot clearer: "don't assume that CollegeIsHighSchoolPart2, and no matter what movies tell you, WackyFratboyHijinks have real consequences." Homer demonstrates he completely failed to learn it.
128	--->'''Homer:''' The important thing is that we all learned a lesson. These guys learned the richness and variety of the world outside college.\
129	'''Nerds:''' No, we didn't.\
130	'''Homer:''' Oh. Then I learned the real value of college is to study and work hard.\
131	'''Lisa:''' No, you didn't. You only passed your course by cheating, which you always taught us was wrong.\
132	'''Homer:''' Hmm. True.\
133	'''Marge:''' And I learned that in order for you to set a good example for your son... you're gonna take that course over again without cheating.\
134	'''Homer:''' Oh, Marge! You're worse than that crusty old dean. Well, I guess it's back to college for me. That means it's time to-- What did I teach you guys?\
135	'''Nerds:''' Party down?\
136	'''Homer:''' Yes!
137	* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'':
138	** "[[Recap/SouthParkS2E5ConjoinedFetusLady Conjoined Fetus Lady]]": Upon learning about Nurse Gollum and the dead fetus attached to her head, Kyle's mother Sheila decides to raise awareness of the condition. This culminates in an awards banquet featuring an "inspirational" film about Gollum's life and a parade complete with ''dead fetus headbands''. Gollum responds by [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calling them out on their behavior]]: she explains that she never wanted to be [[InspirationallyDisadvantaged put on a pedestal]], only to live her life and be treated like any other person. The response suggests that the message didn't quite sink in for everyone:
139	--->'''Principal Victoria:''' Oh my, what an ungrateful bitch!\
140	'''Sheila:''' Yeah, the nerve of some people!
141	** "[[Recap/SouthParkS3E11Chinpokomon Chinpokomon]]":
142	--->'''Stan:''' Dude, Chinpokomon isn't cool anymore.\
143	'''Kyle:''' What?\
144	'''Cartman:''' Yeah, dude, that's way over.\
145	'''Kyle:''' Dude, you're just jealous because I'm Chinpoko Master!\
146	'''Stan:''' No, Kyle. You see, we learned something today. This whole Chinpokomon thing happened because we all followed the group. We only liked Chinpokomon because everyone else did. And look at the damage it caused.\
147	'''Kyle:''' So now I should stop liking Chinpokomon because you all don't?\
148	'''Stan:''' ...Ye-eah.\
149	'''Kyle:''' But if I stop now, I'll just be going with the group again. So, to be an individual, I have to [[ItMakesSenseInContext bomb Pearl Harbor]]. See ya.\
150	'''Stan:''' Oh. Wait. Actually, I was wrong. You see, Kyle, I learned something, just now. It is good to go with the group. A group mentality is healthy, sometimes.\
151	'''Kyle:''' Aw, screw it; I'm too confused.
152	* In the ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' episode "[[Recap/StevenUniverseS1E19RosesRoom Rose's Room]]":
153	-->'''Steven:''' I get it now. Things can't always go exactly how I want.\
154	'''Garnet:''' But guess what: [[SweetAndSourGrapes we have time to hang out now.]]\
155	''GilliganCut to the Gems playing mini-golf''\
156	'''Steven:''' [[SpoofAesop I always get what I want!]]
157	* ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'': At the end of one episode where the team faced an EnemyMime, Clay suggests that "we've all learned a little something." His teammates suggest "[[ThePowerOfTrust the importance of trusting your teammates]]", "[[CuttingTheKnot the value of simple solutions to complicated problems]]", and "[[BluntMetaphorsTrauma Omi can't use slang.]]" Nope. [[EveryoneHatesMimes "Everyone hates a mime."]]
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