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| 6 | ->''"Training for SAM launches up to this point had been more or less book learning, recommending a pull to an orthogonal flight path 4 seconds prior to missile impact to overshoot the missile and create sufficient miss distance to negate the effects of the detonating warhead. Well, it works. The hard part though, is to see the missile early enough to make all the mental calculations."'' |
| 7 | -->-- '''Mike Kopack''', [[https://web.archive.org/web/20090214201711/http://www.lucky-devils.net/afm.html Gulf Mission]] |
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| 9 | This is quite similar to CutscenePowerToTheMax in that it showcases a character's sheer skill, or the abilities of their [[TravelCool Cool Vehicle]]. |
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| 11 | A [[MacrossMissileMassacre swarm of seeking projectiles]] is flying right at a character, and they're almost certain to be rendered into a fine paste by the attack ... but through an extreme display of evasive maneuvers, the character escapes without the slightest scratch. Sometimes the dodging is merely swerving from side to side or taking sharp turns, sometimes it's done like in ''Anime/{{Macross}}'', where the pilot puts his [[TransformingMecha Valkyrie]] through aerial acrobatics that would logically cause [[ImprobablePilotingSkills unbearable G-forces]]. At other times, the pilot maneuvers so as to [[MisguidedMissile cause the missiles to hit each other and explode]], or supplements his evasive maneuvers with the use of some weapon to actually shoot down the missiles instead of being PointDefenseless (but merely being able to ''[[DestructibleProjectiles shoot]] [[ShootTheBullet down]]'' missiles doesn't make for a High Speed Missile Dodge). |
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| 13 | Although High Speed Missile Dodging [[AluminumChristmasTrees can and does happen]] in RealLife, real-world anti-aircraft missiles are designed to not actually ''hit'' the target, but instead explode in close ''proximity'' to it and fill the entire vicinity with [[FlechetteStorm high-velocity shrapnel]]. Thanks to the RuleOfPerception, though, most anti-aircraft missiles in fiction only damage targets if they hit directly. |
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| 15 | Aircraft pilots in RealLife have two basic tactics for dodging missiles; the most common method, as described in the opening quote, is to maneuver the aircraft in such a way that the missile overshoots--so that when its warhead explodes, the shrapnel from the blast won't actually impact the intended target. There are several methods for accomplishing this, depending on the situation and the kind of aircraft involved. Even the massive ''B-52s'' are capable of using this tactic to defeat missiles. |
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| 17 | The other tactic is pure speed; some aircraft are ([[TechnologyMarchesOn or were]]) capable of successfully outrunning air-to-air missiles, such as the [=MiG-25=] and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird SR-71 Blackbird]], whose ''official'' missile evasion procedure was "[[HyperspeedEscape just go faster, duh]]" (lightly paraphrased). In this case, it's less about the pilot's skills and more about the abilities of the aircraft itself. |
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| 19 | May not work against a SuperPersistentMissile. Compare the WronskiFeint, which uses the local landscape as an accessory. The same skills used in dodging missiles are also handy for dodging {{laser|Hallway}}s. See also SmokeShield, where it's sometimes implied that although the missiles exploded, the character dodged while obscured from the camera. See also MisguidedMissile, where the missiles are led back to their launcher or into each other. On a smaller scale there's DodgeTheBullet, which is about, well ... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin dodging bullets]]. |
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| 22 | !!Examples: |
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| 24 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 25 | |
| 26 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 27 | * The ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' series has at least one example of this in each series. |
| 28 | ** ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'', which gave us both MacrossMissileMassacre and {{Roboteching}}, also naturally features plenty of missile dodging. |
| 29 | ** ''Anime/MacrossFrontier'' episode 7 gives us [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnOws0VLg6k this]] clip, which provides examples of an attempted High Speed Missile Dodge, MacrossMissileMassacre, {{Roboteching}}, ThemeMusicPowerUp, {{BFG}}, {{Attack Drone}}s, a partial ColdSniper, TransformingMecha, [[RealRobot Real Robots]], [[SapientShip Sapient Ships]], HumongousMecha, AcePilot, VaporTrail (in space), and TheWarSequence. All in the space of three minutes. |
| 30 | ** In the YF-21's initial test run in ''Anime/MacrossPlus'', a truly enormous swarm of self-guided decoy missiles is shot at it to display its maneuvering capabilities. Since the YF-21 is controlled via neural link, Guld merely has to plot the missiles' individual trajectories and ''think'' his way through the gaps in a massively complex vector. They even comment on the proximity fuses of the missiles and wonder why they have not detonated as the YF-21 is dodging them. It seems the YF-21 is traveling too fast for the triggers to engage. Ironically, when he [[spoiler: shoots an impenetrable wall of real missiles at Isamu, the latter merely shuts off his engines, drops some countermeasures for the missiles to hit, and glides peacefully above the ensuing inferno.]] |
| 31 | ** ''Anime/MacrossZero'': |
| 32 | *** To show off the Valkyrie's rarely-used head cannons, Roy Focker uses an eye-tracking interface to shoot down dozens upon dozens of micro-missiles shot at him by his nemesis at almost point-blank range. |
| 33 | *** Shin Kudo, who managed to ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9pZSggOA28#t=28s dodge]]'' a similar swarm in a normal F-14 using pure badassery and skill (as well as plenty of tolerance for high-G maneuvers). On the other hand, he kinda had no other choice as the missiles mostly ignored his flares. |
| 34 | * ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' manages to use every means of missile dodging available the first time they're able to fly against the AirborneAircraftCarrier Dai-Gunten: The first volley is destroyed by the Gurren Lagann's own volley (tiring out the primary pilot), the second volley is dodged by the secondary pilot (while he's screaming in fear) and the final two supermissiles collide with one another after the first one is grabbed and thrown back at the ship. |
| 35 | * An example of a magical projectile dodge is in the Watery card episode of ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura''. |
| 36 | %%* Kagutsuchi of ''Anime/MyHime'' when attacking Artemis. |
| 37 | * Subverted in ''Manga/LoveHina'' when Naru, screaming and arms flailing, flees from Kaolla Su's MacrossMissileMassacre. |
| 38 | * ''Anime/EurekaSeven'': |
| 39 | ** Just about every time the Nirvash typeZERO mech is deployed , it pulls off at least one of these, usually butchering several hapless KLF units in the process. In fact, most, if not all, of the openings also depict it. |
| 40 | ** The series also features ''[[{{Roboteching}} homing]] lasers'', which receive [[strike: similar]] identical treatment. Does this make any sense whatsoever? No. [[RuleOfCool Is it awesome?]] ''Oh'' yeah! |
| 41 | * Parodied in ''Manga/SchoolRumble'', where Harima races downhill at high speed, in the snow, on a giant curry bowl, dodging a battery of large, apparently heat-seeking frozen fish projectiles with an impressive sequence of maneuvers and aerial acrobatics. |
| 42 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD2czrUbJWM Not to mention while wearing a Santa Suit.]] |
| 43 | * Parodied in ''Anime/ProjectAKo'', where Eiko Megami not only dodges missiles, but in the final scene uses the enormous barrage of the alien ship as [[SteppingStonesInTheSky stepping stones]] up to the ship. |
| 44 | * A variation in ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': In the climactic battle between Ichigo Kurosaki and Byakuya Kuchiki on Sokyouku Hill, Byakuya unleashes his Bankai, which transforms his Zanpakuto into a cloud of razor-like blades. Ichigo responds by [[spoiler:demonstrating the insane speed boost of his Bankai for the first time, knocking every one of the millions of blades to the ground. Ultimately Averted however when Byakuya responds by increasing the amount of blades he's using [[MacrossMissileMassacre by 100-fold]], whilst chiding Ichigo of making the same mistake that Renji did; he has a bankai as well, and he's still better with it. It takes Ichigo's SuperPoweredEvilSide to save him here.]] |
| 45 | * Rushuna dodges bullets and missiles in virtually every episode of ''Anime/{{Grenadier}}''. Subverted when a stray bullet rips off her panties leaving her defenseless, as she is unable to perform acrobatics without exposing herself. |
| 46 | * Spike in ''Anime/CowboyBebop'' dodges missiles, asteroids, even laser beams in his spacecraft. |
| 47 | * ''Anime/{{FLCL}}'' sees Haruka dodge hundreds of bullets at once, while cutting every single one of them neatly in two halves with a razor. Talk about going over the top. |
| 48 | * Since it mostly involved both sides [[MacrossMissileMassacre launching barrages of magical bullets at each other]], both Nanoha and Fate engaged in quite a bit of this during their last battle in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha''. |
| 49 | * Used repeatedly in ''Anime/CodeGeass'' by some of the more talented [[AcePilot aces]]. [[ActionGirl Kallen]] even pulls one off while ''still on the ground''. |
| 50 | * In the 5th episode of ''Anime/OvermanKingGainer'', the Yapan city forces shoot surface to air missiles, which King Gainer dodges while flying towards them to defeat the invisible Blackmail. While Yassaha tried to do the same in Blackmail, he was quickly shot down. |
| 51 | * The ''Manga/OutlawStar'' manages this occasionally. |
| 52 | * ''Manga/Area88'' pilots attempt this frequently. It doesn't always work and the g-forces involved actually kill Mario in the manga. |
| 53 | * In ''Manga/{{Trigun}}'', not content to merely DodgeTheBullet, Vash the Stampede actually ''kicks'' a rocket-propelled grenade fired at him out of the way. |
| 54 | * In ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed'', Kira while in the Strike Gundam is known to do this from time to time, awesomely at that. To the point that he will have a barrage of missiles flying towards him, and he will dodge through the gap in their position, causing them to collide amongst each other, behind him. |
| 55 | * ''Manga/SgtFrog'': Powered 723. |
| 56 | * ''Anime/UsagichanDeCue'': Every time Dekao is rebuilt, he gets a new set of missiles, which he launches against Mimika. However, being a bunny-girl, Mimika is too fast and agile to be hit by any missile, so three times Dekao runs out of missiles without hurting Mimika. |
| 57 | [[/folder]] |
| 58 | |
| 59 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 60 | * In ''ComicBook/BuckDanny'' the titular hero, being an ace pilot, performs this a lot. Even the admiral in one of the book realize it's buck flying, due to the unknow plane dodging two missiles in a row. |
| 61 | * In a ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'' comic, Deadpool is driving a pickup when Bullseye shoots at him with a rocket launcher. Deadpool does a 90-degree brake turn, opens the windows, and watches the missile sail harmlessly through the cabin. Even Bullseye, who usually gets ''very'' upset if he misses, is impressed. |
| 62 | -->'''Bullseye:''' Okay, yeah, I admit it. That was ***in' ''awesome''. |
| 63 | * ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'': In ''[[Recap/TintinTheRedSeaSharks The Red Sea Sharks]]'', the BigBad orders his SubmarinePirates to sink one of his own freighters that's been appropriated by our heroes, killing the meddlesome Tintin and destroying all the evidence against him. Haddock has to keep turning the ship to avoid the torpedoes being fired at them, only to have an OhCrap moment when the handle of the engine order telegraph breaks off in his hand. |
| 64 | [[/folder]] |
| 65 | |
| 66 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 67 | * Justified in ''Fanfic/AnEntryWithABang[=!=]'': the armour on ''TabletopGame/{{Battletech}}'' aerospace fighters means the blast fragmentation shrapnel and continuous rods from normal air-to-air missiles are much less effective. Contact-detonated shaped charges are mounted in replacement, so it's possible to evade the blasts. It is noted that the g-forces involved aren't healthy, though... and you can dodge one missile, maybe two, but [[MacrossMissileMassacre not a whole swarm of them.]] |
| 68 | * In Episode 7 of ''WebAnimation/SuperMarioBrosZ'', Sonic is busy dodging bullets from Mecha Sonic's machine gun (rather easily) when Mecha decides to send 2 missiles his way. In a slo-mo encounter, Sonic rebounds off a wall, and leapfrogs one of the missiles in mid-air. The move's coolness is detracted from when the missiles hit the wall and the explosion sends Sonic flying. |
| 69 | * ''Fanfic/WingsToFly'' has pilots employing countermeasures and the classic missile-avoidance maneuvers used by real pilots, and their own missiles, to deal with incoming missiles. In the last case it's demonstrated that this can also be done for missiles aimed at others. |
| 70 | * A cycle of tales in Creator/AAPessimal's ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' fanfics deals with the [[BadassBiker Air Service]] of Ankh-Morpork. Initially a division of the City Watch staffed by Witch Police Constables, it evolves over the course of the tales (spanning two decades) into something like an efficient and combat-ready Air Force. Its test as an Air Force is in the fighting between Witches and Elves, which happens in the canonical novel ''Literature/TheShepherdsCrown''. The Air War sees the whole of the Air Watch taking a "grandmother's funeral". All at once, to fight in Lancre. Vetinari permits this, and Sam Vimes has no choice other than to accept it. During the air fighting, one Witch, pursuded by an overwhelming number of Elves and dodging arrows and missiles being fired at her, has an epiphany born out of desperation: her Feegle air crewman, normally a navigator, craw-steps her briefly into "Feegle Space" [[note]]a parellel dimension used by the [=NacMacFeegle=] when "craw-stepping", ie taking their Witch out of this dimension and re-entering our world in a different place, which could be thousands of miles away by the direct route[[/note]]. The Feegle counts to "tetra" and brings her back in exactly the same place - except for the fact all the Elves have overshot and are now in front of her. Where she can fire back and get them from behind with a combination of crossbow bolts and air-to-air fireballs. This becomes a standard Air Service fighting tactic. |
| 71 | [[/folder]] |
| 72 | |
| 73 | [[folder:Films -- Animation]] |
| 74 | * ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1'': Gru does this when Vector launches a MacrossMissileMassacre at him. The missiles redirect and blow up Vector's house. And then he punches a shark. |
| 75 | [[/folder]] |
| 76 | |
| 77 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 78 | * Ironhide dodges Decepticon missiles in ''Film/Transformers2007'' by shooting his cannons into the street during the climactic battle. |
| 79 | * Dobbs, AcePilot from the German TV action show ''Series/DerClown'', manages to evade two surface-to-air missiles with a helicopter (neither an Apache nor Airwolf) in the movie ''Payday''. He even [[MisguidedMissile sends one flying back into the SAM mortar]]. |
| 80 | * In ''Film/IronMan1'', during the saving of Golmera, the titular character narrowly avoids a missile fired from a tank by sidestepping it in the nick of time. Iron Man fires a smaller missile back at it, and [[UnflinchingWalk walks away as it explodes behind him]]. |
| 81 | * ''Film/JamesBond'' |
| 82 | ** In ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'', 007 is in a small jet in hostile territory and the enemy launches a surface to air missile at him. With the missile chasing him, Bond heads for the hangar where he was caught trying to destroy a plane. The commander realizes what he is about to attempt and orders the hangar doors closed. But it's too late, Bond successfully flies through the hangar just in time while the pursuing missile collides with the interior and destroys the hangar. |
| 83 | ** ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' has Bond dodge one of Zao's missiles (and right his upside-down Aston) with a well-timed EjectionSeat. |
| 84 | * Most submarine movies will have at least one scene of the heroes performing a last minute turn to escape an incoming torpedo. ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober'' accomplishes this in two different scenes, once by ''Red October'' reversing an engine to turn so tightly that the torpedo cannot compensate and hits an underwater canyon wall, and once by USS ''Dallas'' launching countermeasures and simultaneously blowing ballast so that they quickly rise vertically. Captain Ramius also once destroys a torpedo by closing the range before its safety measures switch off and arm the warhead, essentially {{ramming|AlwaysWorks}} it with his sub. In real life, submarines will attempt to turn to face the torpedo so that they present the smallest possible target while discharging countermeasures, or employ high-speed maneuvers that create agitated areas of water which reflect sonar. The lack of submarine-vs-submarine battles, at least when armed with homing torpedoes, means this tactic remains historically untested. |
| 85 | ** One of the purposes behind the development of the VA-111 Shkval supercavitating torpedo (which is itself unguided as we still have no idea how to steer when going so fast underwater) is to force the enemy sub that has just launched a wire-guided torpedo to evade, cutting the wire. |
| 86 | * This gets used for a MoneyMakingShot in ''Film/GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'' where Duke and Ripcord dodge several missiles in BulletTime. |
| 87 | * Attempted in ''Film/BehindEnemyLines'' when Serbian troops fire two [=SAMs=] at Burnett and Stackhouse's F-18 after [[spoiler: they inadvertently spot the Serbs covering up a mass grave]]. They manage to evade one by tricking it into crashing with their dropped auxiliary fuel tanks, but the other one lands a [[NearMisses near-miss]] and takes the plane down. |
| 88 | * At the climax of ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', Batman must maneuver [[CoolPlane the Bat]] to dodge a set of missiles that were fired at him. The first two are stopped by flares, the next are tricked into crashing into buildings, and the last is maneuvered back to its sender. This is especially shocking because Batman is flying the Bat, which is some kind of ''helicopter'' designed for urban operation and should have no way to outmaneuver or outrun a rocket-propelled missile. |
| 89 | * Done a few times in ''Film/FlightOfTheIntruder'', though, as [[spoiler: The Boxman]] demonstrates, you can only ''dodge'' the missile when you can ''see'' it to know which way to go. The film also nicely demonstrates the "near hit" reality of surface-to-air missiles, as the missile explodes a fair distance away from the plane in question, [[SplashDamage which is still destroyed by the blast.]] |
| 90 | * In ''Film/RoboCop1987'', the titular cyborg does this a few times during his ExecutiveSuiteFight with [[ChickenWalker ED-209]] in [[MegaCorp OCP headquarters]]. |
| 91 | * Inverted in a deleted scene from ''Film/SupermanTheMovie''. Superman tried to stop the Hackensack missile in mid-air, but the missile just flew past. It dodged ''him''. This scene led to the one in the theatrical cut where said missile is chased and sent into outer space before the second one hit San Andreas' Fault. |
| 92 | * Played straight and subverted in ''Film/SupermanIII'' when looking for Gus and Webster. He dodged a few missiles sent his way, kicked others in mid-air which collided with other missiles, and finally was briefly stunned when a bigger one exploded. |
| 93 | * In ''Film/SupermanIVTheQuestForPeace'', he caught nuclear missiles in mid-flight, put them in a big net, and slung the net into the sun. |
| 94 | * ''Film/TopGun'' has this happen a couple times during the climactic dogfight. Iceman dodges an air-to-air missile from one of the [=MiGs=], while Maverick snap-fires at a [=MiG=] chasing Ice without waiting for a lock and his shot goes wide. |
| 95 | * ''Film/TopGunMaverick'' has a scene showing [[spoiler:one of the enemy "Felon" pilots pull off a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailslide Kvochur's bell]] to evade Maverick's missile during their escape in the climax]]. |
| 96 | [[/folder]] |
| 97 | |
| 98 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 99 | * Explained by the narrator in ''Literature/FlightOfTheIntruder'': For the A-6 Intruder, the preferred strategy was to dive towards the missile while ejecting decoys and attempting to jam the enemy's radar. The trickiest parts were of course spotting the incoming missiles early enough to know which way to dive, and running out of enemy missiles before you ran out of altitude. |
| 100 | * ''Literature/HaloTheFallOfReach'': |
| 101 | ** Part of the famed "Keyes Loop" maneuver involves dodging homing plasma torpedos and [[DeadlyDodging having them hit an enemy ship instead]]. The book emphasizes that Keyes came up with the maneuver out of desperation against a vastly superior force, and Keyes himself notes that he would have failed any student who suggested the idea to him in his starship tactics class. |
| 102 | ** The Master Chief does this ''on foot'' when when testing the new MJOLNIR Mark V armor, by slapping the missile aside just before it hit him. No, his armor and physical augmentations don't give him reflexes ''that'' ridiculous: his AI Cortana handled the timing. He wasn't completely undamaged by the missile's explosion, though. |
| 103 | * Attempted by a Pinnace pilot in ''Literature/HonorHarrington: Flag in Exile''. Unfortunately, they still took a glancing blow from the missile, cutting the ship in half rather than simply disintegrating it. The pinnace crash-lands and most aboard and several people on the ground are killed. The MadeOfIron Honor survives. |
| 104 | * Done with cannonballs in ''Literature/{{Sharpe}}''. TruthInTelevision, in that cannonballs travel slow enough that someone far enough away can realistically be able to get out of the way. Also subverted in that, whenever characters ''just'' dodge cannonballs, it inevitably ends with a concussion or unconsciousness from the wind of the cannonball's passing. |
| 105 | * A variation in the ''Literature/StarCarrier'' series. Missiles are actually [[SuperPersistentMissile pretty darn hard to shake]] (they're flown by {{Artificial Intelligence}}s and have a huge array of sensors to beat any ECM), so a dodge by itself doesn't work. Instead, you use the dodge to lead the missile to where you want it, then dump "sand"[[note]]granules of gravitically compressed lead[[/note]] and let the missile fly into it. |
| 106 | * A fairly common feature in the ''Literature/{{RCN}}'' novels. The matter/antimatter-fueled [[KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter kinetic impact missiles]] used in the series are guided until the point of burnout and extremely lethal when they hit: even the missiles from a corvette like ''Princess Cecile'' can do serious damage to large capital ships. Evading incoming fire is easier at long range than short since the missile cannot change course after burnout, but thanks to Einsteinian physics missiles are conversely more damaging after burnout (about .6''c'', assuming a straight-line course) than at closer range. The main purpose of plasma cannon is to either deflect or destroy incoming missiles that cannot be outright dodged. |
| 107 | [[/folder]] |
| 108 | |
| 109 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 110 | * ''Series/UltramanMax'' is very fond of this trope, although it's usually the DASH planes that do it. |
| 111 | * Subverted in the pilot miniseries for the re-imagined ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}''--though Boomer's Raptor and Apollo's Viper manage to avoid being directly hit by Cylon missiles, the subsequent explosions take both their ships offline, if not destroying them. Adama does seem to comment it's possible in his speech to Starbuck after she's injured and working out to get back in shape. He grounds her when she can't simulate holding the high-gee turn long enough. |
| 112 | * In ''Series/{{Primeval}}'' series 5, Matt, Abby, Connor and the sole surviving/conscious naval officer pull one of these off in a sub with next to no warning, after the sub had been damaged travelling twice through an anomaly and essentially had to be jump started. Extra levels of awesome for doing this in '''reverse''' and firing off a jury rigged anomaly locking torpedo that went through the anomaly before the nuke!torpedo that was fired at them did. |
| 113 | * Averted in ''Series/SeaQuestDSV'', despite it being a show all about submarines and featuring a number of sub combat scenes (especially in the [[DarkerAndEdgier third season]]). The titular sub preferred to simply shoot down the torpedoes with countermeasures. |
| 114 | [[/folder]] |
| 115 | |
| 116 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 117 | * According to the rules of the official ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' RPG by Palladium (and other Palladium games with missiles), it is possible to dodge volleys of up to three missiles, but never more than four, allegedly because no one did it in the show; however, Max dodges a twenty-plus swarm from Miryia's FPA at least once in the actual show (of course, Max is the best pilot living to the point where it's explained as him being ''just that good''). |
| 118 | [[/folder]] |
| 119 | |
| 120 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 121 | * There's also a couple of examples from more recent ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games, such as ''VideoGame/DirgeOfCerberus'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX''. |
| 122 | * ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'''s opening cutscene. |
| 123 | * ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid: The Twin Snakes'' had Solid Snake dodge a missile by ''leaping on top of it.'' |
| 124 | * Likewise, ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry3DantesAwakening'' had Dante dodge a missile by bending over Neo-style...and then leaping atop it and ''surfing around the room on it'' before aiming it at a wall and jumping off. |
| 125 | * Hotsuma of ''VideoGame/Shinobi2002'' not only dodges a missile matrix style, he uses [[EvilWeapon Akujiki]] two slice it in two, ''in mid-flip''. [[ArtisticLicensePhysics Said missile halves then explode]] as Hotsuma lands. |
| 126 | * ''VideoGame/EVEOnline'': |
| 127 | ** The Interceptor class of ships are the fastest ships in the entire game. It's quite common for Interceptors to outrun missiles fired from other players. this has been repeatedly showcased and commented on in the annual tournaments between player alliances, where it's referred to as "Benny Hill-ing". With the speed nerf included in the ''Quantum Rise'' expansion, this is now harder, if not outright impossible, to pull off, making Defender anti-missile missiles the only reliable way to stop missiles from hitting you. |
| 128 | ** At Alliance Tournament 6, a Vigil class frigate(arguably the fastest ship of its class and price range) pulls this off and escapes beyond the targeting range of enemy missile ships. The commentators, while cracking up, commented that they should bring their own Vigils to start a new kind of race, and at the end offered the Vigil pilot a bribe to self destruct his ship so that the next match can start in schedule. After this incident, the act of outrunning enemy fire with a cheap frigate(especially a Vigil) is being called "Vigil Racing." Or at least they would, if they ''[[UselessUsefulSpell worked]]''. |
| 129 | ** While ships cannot outrun missiles anymore, fast enough ships can still outrun the ''explosions'', reducing the damage caused. For the largest missile type, "fast enough ships" used to mean anything that moves. |
| 130 | * ''VideoGame/IndependenceWar'' '''demands''' this out of the player. If you cannot dodge countless homing missiles (that each do 20% damage) while dealing with the inertia inherent to a Newtonian flight model, you will DIE. At least the LDS inertia cancel trick in ''VideoGame/{{Independence War 2}}'' helps a lot by throwing off the missiles' lead compensation. |
| 131 | * Players of ''VideoGame/ArmoredCore'' had better learn to do this themselves, or suffer the consequences. In fact, careful research on the appropriate wikis will usually reveal guides to some common missile-evasion maneuvers; depending on the type of missile and its movement pattern, the evasion pattern is different. Which is why some players (and [=AIs=]) take to [[MacrossMissileMassacre launching several swarms of different types of missiles simultaneously]]. |
| 132 | ** The {{Macross Missile Massacre}}s can be fun. Even more fun is dodging fire from the automatic flak gun, which is easier than one would think if you have a decent flyer, since the gun's AI is easy to predict. |
| 133 | ** Earlier games has missile barrages about 12, or maximum 16 missiles at a time. In ''For Answer'', a dedicated missileboat can launch a whopping '''128''' missiles continously, at a single target, with fire-and-forget capability (meaning that once a lock-on is ensured and the trigger is pulled, each missiles launched will track the locked on target even when it's no longer on the lock-on arc). This makes missile dodging paramount to survival itself. |
| 134 | ** ''For Answer'' also has [=VTF=] missiles, which were meant to avert this trope by possessing proximity detonation capabilities. However, a particularly fast AC can still dodge it. |
| 135 | * ''VideoGame/EtherVapor'' not only embraces this trope wholeheartedly, it made this trope an art form by making the missile dodge sequence not just a cutscene, but a bonus minigame where the AI takes control of your craft and all you need to do is destroy as many missiles as you can. You'd still be invincible, but hey, it's ''[[RuleOfCool just THAT cool]]''! |
| 136 | * ''VideoGame/AceCombat'': |
| 137 | ** Players must master this before taking on the higher difficulty levels. Particularly fun when outnumbered five or ten to one. The enemy ''will'' do it too. It's not clear why the missiles act so oddly, as they can take out a tank with one "shack on the target" but need two to blow through a plane, at least in ''Shattered Skies''. [[LikeRealityUnlessNoted Strangereal is weird]]. |
| 138 | ** Notably ''Ace Combat Zero'' has one exception to this: the ADFX-02 Morgan will for the first two thirds of the final mission adhere to this but in the last third will simply deflect all attacks fired at him... except for missiles that come at him ''head on''. |
| 139 | * ''[[VideoGame/{{HAWX}} H.A.W.X.]]'' incorporates a lot of this: |
| 140 | ** In "OFF" mode, in order to shake missiles, the plane performs maneuvers that would more than likely paste the pilot. |
| 141 | ** The player must fly through an ERS "Low-altitude" tunnel through a zone covered in SAM sites. While all the player sees is himself flying through the tunnel avoiding the missiles, some replays of the mission may show the pilot's craft zooming near ground level and outrunning or outflying six or seven [=SAMs=] locked on the player. So what LOOKS like a normal tunnel flight to the pilot seems like a high speed missile dodge to the observer. |
| 142 | ** There's also the almost constant chorus of "Missile evaded" and the also constant alarm that plays when there's a missile coming at you. |
| 143 | ** You actually earn points towards Challenges for dodging missiles without using flares. Evading the missiles is trivial regardless of the mode you're in; when the wingmen tell you to break right, they're not saying it for effect, just roll hard to one side and pull back for a U-turn. It works. Pilots can dodge missiles coming straight at them with a little skill and luck too. |
| 144 | ** Contrary to the trope name, slowing down is often the best option, as it allows for tighter turns or even drift and stall turns in OFF mode. |
| 145 | * Generally averted in the ''VideoGame/XWing'' series. Proton torpedoes and concussion missiles lock on to targets before firing, will swerve to match dodges, and have a proximity fuse. Still, it's possible to avoid a lock, and fancy enough moves can let a pilot survive. There's only three consistent methods to keep a locked on missile from hitting in the older ''X-Wing'' and ''TIE Fighter'' games: You can try to [[TimTaylorTechnology dump all power into the engines]] and pray you outrun it. If it was fired from far enough out, you can turn toward it and blast it out of the sky. Or you can do the sensible thing and use your chaff/flares, which is generally far more effective than either of the other options. Fancy flying sometimes works, but the lighter missiles are generally just as maneuverable as your craft, so don't count on it. |
| 146 | * Used in combination with a RocketPunch in ''VideoGame/MetalWolfChaos''. |
| 147 | * In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', it is quite possible for fast and agile flyers like the Banshee to dodge homing projectiles if they flip or boost out of the way in time. |
| 148 | * Space maps in ''VideoGame/StarWarsBattlefrontII'' essentially require anyone flying a fighter, interceptor, or bomber to do this or you ''will'' blow up. |
| 149 | * Ryu Hayabusa's ending in ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive 4''. He dodges two missiles. |
| 150 | * ''VideoGame/AceOnline'' has the Idle Sniper I-Gear, the fighter type Gear that can outrun most missiles from levels as low as 40-50. I-Gear top speed= 500 (before lvl 86), most missile top speed=450. Enter Episode 3 and the [[OhCrap introduction of Speed Card missile upgrades]]. Now most I-Gear pilots rely not only on pure high speed, but also a healthy dose of WronskiFeint and barrel rolls. Any I-Gear that manages to hit 94 however, will still be able to outrun most missiles except highly customized ones. |
| 151 | * This trope is a very large part of gameplay in any ''VideoGame/AfterBurner'' game. Interestingly, some missiles do seem to have a proximity fuse and go up in a blast with a not-insignificant Aoe, so you do need to put some distance from them. |
| 152 | * Generally one of the ways to survive in the ''VideoGame/WingCommander'' series, given the limited amount of decoys you generally get (at least pre-''Prophecy''), particularly when they get significantly more fatal in [=WC4=]. In something of a "huhwha...?" situation, your slow-ass, stock clunker of a Tarsus, the starting ship in ''Privateer'', can simply afterburn away from missiles that are supposedly twice as fast as the ship they're targeting, even without much ECM help. |
| 153 | * Another Western example is ''VideoGame/{{Freelancer}}''. As soon as you hear the loud beeping and your ship screaming "INCOMING MISSILE!", you know it's time to swerve with afterburners at max! |
| 154 | * ''VideoGame/UnrealTournament2004'': |
| 155 | ** The AS-Mothership map features spacefighters with homing missiles as secondary armament. Dodging them is not especially hard: their tracking abilities are rather pathetic, merely flying directly at the missile on a narrow angle will do the job. Man-portable [=AVRiL=] missiles however are VERY hard to dodge: they automatically lead a moving target and are capable of pulling extremely sharp 180° turns. Either pull off a WronskiFeint or break line of sight with the launcher to make the missile lose guidance. |
| 156 | ** Mantas are notorious for being able to outmaneuver an [=AVRiL=] by positioning themselves in front of an obstacle, waiting for the missile to get close then leaping over it. Cicadas drop the issue by being equipped with chaff specifically for defeating [=AVRiL=]s. |
| 157 | * In ''VideoGame/ASPAirStrikePatrol'' (AKA ''VideoGame/DesertFighter''), both ground and air-launched missiles can be avoided by the player through some fancy maneuvers. Valuable because not only do your missiles, bombs, and countermeasures [[UniversalAmmunition count as the same universal ammo reserve]], but using countermeasures affects your supplies rating just like expended munitions. |
| 158 | * This happens in the cinematic trailer for ''VideoGame/{{Brink}}'', though Splash Damage assures us you can't do this in-game. |
| 159 | * This is a regular occurrence in the ''[[VideoGame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' games, since missiles are often slower than the ships they're fired at. In fact, one of the most effective tactics in an OldSchoolDogfight is to use the missile as a ''distraction'' and make the kill with guns. "Swarm" missiles, which have RecursiveAmmo, are significantly more effective. |
| 160 | * This is possible in ''VideoGame/BattlestarGalacticaOnline'', most often with Strikes, but you'll still want to pack decoys because it is not very reliable. |
| 161 | * It is not exactly an aircraft missile, but the Red Shell from the ''VideoGame/MarioKart'' series is a HomingProjectile that can be very hard to avoid. In ''VideoGame/MarioKartWii'' the homing shell must be blocked with another item, as it is next to impossible to dodge due to how the shell mechanics work. In earlier installments like ''[[VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash Double Dash]]'', however, it can be dodged by doing a mini-turbo boost at the right moment. The shells will chase you down, then "hover" for a second behind your kart, and then speed up to ram into you. Just as it does so, it breaks the homing effect, meaning that ending your power slide drift (with the added drift boost) is enough to make the shell pass behind you at an angle instead of striking the vehicle. |
| 162 | * ''VideoGame/VectorThrust'' makes heavy use of this trope by nature of being a SpiritualSuccessor to ''VideoGame/AceCombat'', but future updates may phase this out with upgrades to missile seekers that make them more perceptible to increased engine heat (such as when you're trying to speed away). |
| 163 | * In ''[[VideoGame/PlanetSide Planetside 2]]'', the [[FutureCopter tiltjet fighter-bombers]] are nimble enough that players can do this. |
| 164 | * It is possible to break the MissleLockOn of the Javelin missles in ''VideoGame/Battlefield4'' if you time your bike jumps off of ramps or dunes correctly. [[https://youtu.be/gd0Lntuwl3U?t=5m36s Exa]] [[https://youtu.be/gd0Lntuwl3U?t=5m47s ple]]. |
| 165 | * A capable pilot can juke through missile volleys in ''VideoGame/MechWarrior''. Short-range missiles are dumb-fired, so a sufficiently agile 'Mech, such as the ''Raven'', can make sharp, sudden turns and get out of the way. Long-range missiles have homing systems, but some enemies (and players) fire them without locking just to get a volley out. These too can be dodged if you are capably agile. |
| 166 | * Contrary to what some battleship players may protest, it is entirely possible to dodge torpedoes in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarships''. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTPoWpYwuNg Here]] is just one (actually fairly mild) example with eight torpedoes. There's footage of players dodging entire ''torpedo curtains'' from higher-tier Japanese ships[[note]]Possible in RealLife, see below[[/note]]. |
| 167 | * The old Creator/{{Microprose}}'s simulator ''Gunship'' mentions [[AllThereInTheManual in the manual]] that it's possible to dodge a missile with a helicopter thanks to the large turning radius of the former but also that it's ''extremely'' difficult. This is because helicopters fly at very low speeds compared to the missile. |
| 168 | * In ''VideoGame/Gamer2'''s streets level, Hailey will find her way blocked by a tall fence, and a faraway police officer will repeatedly call airstrikes on her position. To progress, she needs to stand near the fence, wait for an airstrike to be called in, then escape the blast radius in the few split seconds between the missile appearing on screen and destroying the fence. |
| 169 | * One of the training missions in ''VideoGame/JanesUSAF'' has you firing a HARM (High Speed Anti-radiation Missile) at an enemy SAM radar, then learning to dodge a “smoky” SAM. In most other missions, you will be fired on and will have to shake off enemy missiles. The most difficult missiles to dodge are AIM-120 [=AMRAAMs=] fired at you by F-16 Aggressors encountered only in the Red Flag missions. This is because [=AMRAAMs=] have radars mounted on their seeker heads, making it easier for them to track their target and guide themselves to it. Fortunately, you always carry that same missile as your own armament, so you can fire at an enemy, then [[PassThePopcorn sit back and watch as the missile guides itself to its target and kills it]]. |
| 170 | * In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'', ranged magic attacks are {{Painfully Slow Projectile}}s so this is a valid strategy for combating enemy mages. Begin to strafe at the end of their casting animation, dodge the projectile, and move in on the ([[SquishyWizard typically squishy]]) mage for the kill. The only thing you have to watch out for are large AreaOfEffect spells, such as the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Daedroth]]'s [[PoisonousPerson Poisonbloom]] spell, which will still cause damage even if the main projectile is dodged. |
| 171 | * If you are fast (that is, using your [[RollerbladeGood motorized heel wheels]]) and ''good'', you can juke out enemy rockets in the ''TabletopGame/HeavyGear'' video game. Heavy rockets are slow, indirect-fire vertical-launch rockets which skilled pilots can weave between. ''Very'' skilled pilots can evade the much faster direct-fire medium and light rocket packs, which fire in staggered salvos and leave just enough space between shots for small gears such as the ''Cheetah'' to duck between each individual projectile. That said, do ''not'' try this against guided missiles, as those are ''much'' more effective at the task of tracking fast targets and will kill most Gears dead in a single hit. |
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| 175 | * Episode 10 of ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'' Season 8 brings forth [[spoiler:the return of Tex, who then delivers a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to the Reds and Tucker. Simmons fires a heat-seaking missile to Tex, who ''outruns it'' and goes through a portal and runs right back to the "heroes", missile in tow. She clotheslines Sarge, Simmons and Tucker who were conveniently standing in single-file at the time... [[FridgeLogic for some reason...]] and she slides under Grif. She then leads the missile into a bunch of exploding barrels.]] |
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| 179 | * The WesternAnimation/SwatKats do this sometimes. They didn't make it once, but they [[UnexplainedRecovery recovered somehow]]. |
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| 186 | * Though some people would tell you that High Speed Missile Dodging is impossible in real life, combat pilots are trained in methods of outmaneuvering and dodging missiles. Some examples: |
| 187 | ** As explained in the opening, even the massive [=B-52s=] can perform High Speed Missile Dodges. The tactic employed by B-52 crews during the Vietnam War, for example, was to fall towards the missile at an oblique angle drastically increasing the closing velocity. This caused the "shotgun" cone of destruction of the exploding missile to mostly fall behind them. |
| 188 | ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA This video]] from Operation Desert Storm demonstrates RealLife High Speed Missile Dodging at work--sort of. Twelve American F-16 fighters were on a bombing mission north of Baghdad, but ran into a MacrossMissileMassacre of surface-to-air missiles ([=SAMs=]). The pilot in this video, Major Emmett "E.T." Tulia, winds up dodging ''six'' [=SAMs=]. Two of his fellow pilots, however, were shot down. A written account of this incident [[https://web.archive.org/web/20090214201711/http://www.lucky-devils.net/afm.html can be found here]], in the section labeled Day Three. |
| 189 | *** It's commonly thought (and was originally reported on this wiki) that the pilot mainly avoided the missiles using his ECM and countermeasures. However, [[http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArchive/Documents/2016/January%202016/0116packageq.pdf this article in the Air Force Magazine]] recounts that when Tulia returned to base, he discovered his countermeasures ''failed to deploy.'' He got through that storm of missiles ''through sheer piloting skill'' '''''alone.''''' What's more, Tulia did not have enough fuel at that point to gain airspeed to dodge the missiles properly and still return to base--he had to dodge those missiles using only "military power," that is, the maximum possible thrust from the engines without using afterburners.\ |
| 190 | Suffice to say, Major Tulia's performance that day has since been part of the curriculum at the Air Force Academy. |
| 191 | ** A common recommendation in BFM (Basic Flight Manuvers) is to put the missile at 90 degrees off the nose on either side, then break as described in the opening article quote. |
| 192 | ** Fighter pilots actually have a slang term for evading an oncoming surface-to-air missile. They call it ''dancing'' with the missile. '''Make of that what you will.''' |
| 193 | ** Footage exists of Vietnam-era pilots dodging multiple [=SAMs=] this way. The trick is to wait until the last possible second so that the missile doesn't have time to correct. |
| 194 | ** One tried and true method for dodging radar-guided missiles is known as "notching", which involves exploiting the Doppler shift that modern radars rely on to briefly "disappear" via a sudden, well-timed change in speed and velocity. Doppler radars are designed to ignore stationary objects so that ground clutter won't overwhelm them with thousands of irrelevant "targets", but notching causes the target aircraft briefly register zero velocity ''relative to the missile''. When done correctly, from the missile's perspective the target aircraft seems to have done a FlashStep. It still works against modern missiles in 2023 [[https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/12/23/russias-best-missile-can-hit-ukrainian-jets-from-80-miles-away-but-ukrainian-pilots-know-how-to-dodge/?sh=46bf61287efc as demonstrated in in the Russo-Ukrainian War]], but the pilot only has a second or so to respond to the radar lock warning before it's too late to dodge. |
| 195 | * And of course, there's always the other option: "Just go faster." |
| 196 | ** The [=MiG-25=] "Foxbat" was fast enough to outrun the earlier versions of the Sidewinder heat-seeking missile. However, modern versions of the Sidewinder fly at speeds of Mach 4 (or ''faster''), outpacing the Foxbat's top speed of 2.5~2.8. The UsefulNotes/GulfWar demonstrated just how far [[TechnologyMarchesOn Tech Marched On]], with American [=F-15s=] slaughtering Iraqi [=MiG-25s=] using that very missile type. |
| 197 | ** The frail U-2 spy plane was designed to fly higher than any surface-to-air missile or aircraft could go... [[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/1960_U-2_incident until it didn't]]. |
| 198 | ** The SR-71 "Blackbird" was designed to not need an escort or any kind of defense, as it could fly so high and fast that any missile would run out of fuel before it caught it. Standard evasive action was simply to accelerate.[[BadAssCreed "Though I fly through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil. For I am at 80,000 feet and climbing."]] The only plane ever to even get a radar lock on one is the Swedish JA-37 Viggen, whose pilots routinely used the spy plane's flights in the Baltic Sea to practice interception tactics. The SR-71's rated top speed was Mach 3.2, or Mach 3.3 if the high-altitude air is cold enough. Some pilots have stated they pushed it past Mach 3.5, and former Skunk Works engineers have admitted the plane could handle it. |
| 199 | ** This is the modus operandi of most low-altitude attacks; the object being not to go faster than the missile, but to go faster than the operator or the missile can lock you while you're in its smaller field of view. And don't make more than one pass. |
| 200 | ** Depending on how far away the missile was launched, it might still be possible to use a burst of speed to escape it even if its top speed is higher than your aircraft. Missiles aren't flying at top speed at the moment of launch; they have to accelerate up to it too. And like anything propelled by an engine, a missile can only fly so far before running out of fuel. So you don't have to outright outrun the missile, just escape its maximum range before it catches up. This is what the above-mentioned Mach 3.5+ flight of the SR-71 was doing. |
| 201 | * Pilots performing "Suppression of Enemy Air Defense" duties get to know this tactic very well. In the US Air Force it's termed "UsefulNotes/WildWeasel," but no matter what it's called it's a deadly game of flashlight tag--just with radar and missiles as the flashlights. SEAD crews ''must'' know how to dodge missiles to maximize their chances of survival. |
| 202 | ** In the Vietnam War, the usual SEAD strategy was as follows: Send a fighter bomber carrying special radar-detecting gear, cluster bombs, and radar-seeking missiles, to suspected SAM sites. Once the enemy locks onto them with their targeting radar, they'd lob off one of their missiles, [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome then spend the next little while frantically evading the missiles that the Vietnamese had launched as soon as they had gotten the aforementioned lock]]. The first generation of Wild Weasel planes ''didn't'' carry homing missiles, and had to try and actually find the radar site on the ground to bomb it, [[AirStrikeImpossible while the Vietnamese were trying to shoot them down the whole time]]. |
| 203 | ** The patch worn by the Wild Weasel aircrews showed a terrified weasel, with their slogan printed [[FunWithAcronyms in acronym form]]: YGBSM: '''Y'''ou've '''G'''otta '''B'''e '''S'''hittin' '''M'''e!, the [[OhCrap reaction]] most crews had when informed of their new mission. In fact, the phrase was first coined by a former B-52 electronic warfare officer when he was told that he would be the GuyInBack to a [[TheAce self-absorbed fighter pilot]] while purposely exposing themselves to enemy SAM sites in order to destroy them. |
| 204 | * After the first couple of generations of jet fighter planes, air strategists decided that the future of air warfare was air-to-air missiles; planes just moved so fast that they couldn't have time to maneuver against each other as in the classic WW II dogfights, so how would they have time to aim and fire traditional machine guns (or their replacement, [[GatlingGood autocannons]])? The famous F-4 Phantom fighter didn't even have a cannon in its first few versions, as it was initially designed as a high-speed, high-altitude interceptor, intended to carry a load of radar-guided air-to-air missiles. Needless to say, things didn't work out quite that way. Early generations of air-to-air missiles just weren't that reliable. Later, after missiles became more reliable, friendly-fire incidents demonstrated the problems in over-the-horizon firing without visual identification of the target, concern of which was taken to ludicrous extremes in the Rules of Engagement the US military were given in the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar (where their opponents were usually able to dance all around the slug-like US fighters, though the Phantom's monstrous General Electric J79 engines--either of which by itself would have been the most powerful ever mounted in a fighter aircraft, and the Phantom had twin engines--gave it vastly superior climb and acceleration, which kept it from being a turkey shoot for the North Vietnamese). When the F-4 entered combat for the first time, they quickly figured out how to add a gun pod to the F-4, and later models included an internal cannon. |
| 205 | * The idea that guided missiles are inescapable and that this trope cannot occur in real life has been around for decades. |
| 206 | ** In fact, the British government's ''1957 White Paper on Defence'' predicted that the surface-to-air missile would make manned aircraft obsolete. A consultative paper recommending that all work on manned combat aircraft be halted because of this was circulated for comment; the only known response was the word "Balls" scribbled in the margin by an air commodore. |
| 207 | ** Proponents of [[AttackDrone unmanned combat aircraft]] argue that developments in aircraft and missile technology will make it impossible for a human pilot to remain conscious while pulling the necessary maneuvers to defeat guided missiles (among other dogfighting tactics), because the G-forces will be too strong to withstand--thereby forcing humans out of the cockpit and into control booths instead (or handing the whole thing off to [[ArtificialIntelligence AIs]]). However, [[http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/archive/index.php?t-61574.html G-Suit technology is also improving]]. |
| 208 | ** Other countermeasures are also becoming more effective even as missiles are, though they are requiring less actual maneuvering. Notably the latest version of the venerable Sidewinder is becoming longer range as the USAF is worried that the radar guided missiles will be useless due to stealth and more advanced radar jamming. [[HistoryRepeats Almost sounds like air combat over Vietnam.]] To top things off laser jammers are now stopping infrared based missiles like the Sidewinder rather effortlessly. |
| 209 | * Also very possible when talking about anti-''ground'' missiles of man-portable size, such as anti-tank guided missiles, which are usually intended to be used against large and not very maneuverable targets, such as tanks. When used against infantry, they are surprisingly slow and it is entirely possible to evade them. As these missiles also commonly have warheads with a very narrow area of effect (commonly HEAT), having been meant to defeat heavy armor, not generate a large blast zone, individual humans who are not caught by surprise are very able to get away unscathed from a frontal attack with these weapons (provided a sufficient distance to the firer). |
| 210 | ** It is also possible for ''tanks'' to evade [=ATGMs=]; in fact it's been documented several times by South Vietnamese and Israeli vehicles making clever use of nearby terrain or a rapid application of the brakes and a turn into a side-approaching missile just before impact. The trick to this is that unlike air-to-air missiles, where you are fighting the missile's computer guidance, against many [=ATGMs=] you are fighting a slower-reacting human operator who is either "flying" the missile, or holding a scope/laser dot on target. |
| 211 | *** Israeli tank crews facing the Malyutka ATGM in the Yom Kippur War quickly discovered that one of the best ways of dealing with them was to target the now-extremely-obvious missile launch site [[MoreDakka with everything they had]]; the operator of the missile, only a few feet away from the launcher, would be almost completely unable to accurately guide the missile with so much fire coming his way. |
| 212 | * Similarly to the World of Warships example of above, during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII ships -up to battleship-sized ones- were able to dodge torpedoes launched either by submarines or planes. However against [[MacrossMissileMassacre many of them in pincer attacks]] even [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Repulse_(1916)#Force_Z skillfull handling]] was not enough. |
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