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14	->''"The Teutonic reputation for brutality is well founded. Their operas last three or four days, and they have no word for 'fluffy'".''
15	-->-- '''Captain Blackadder''', ''Series/{{Blackadder}} Goes Forth''
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17	Germans in fiction are often stereotyped in one of two ways: as [[AllGermansAreNazis Nazis]], or as being [[SourOutsideSadInside dour]], [[IronWoobie serious]], [[{{Angst}} frustrated and melancholic]] to the point of ridicule. ([[BeingEvilSucks Or both]].) This is a mild TruthInTelevision: while Germans do, indeed, have [[GermanHumour a sense of humour]], they also [[WorkHardPlayHard strictly divide work time and leisure time]] (see {{Oktoberfest}}), and since chances are you'll encounter German people in business situations, this means they will be perceived by others as deathly serious during the former. This has also contributed to the additional stereotype of Germans being portrayed as [[GermanicEfficiency ruthlessly efficient]]. May be known as German ''Gründlichkeit'' in other nations.
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19	Also, Germans, like [[BritishStuffiness several other north European countries]], tend to be just a tad more reserved than more laid-back, open Americans are accustomed to. Unfortunately, this reserved-ness is often mistaken for coldness. This trope exists even inside Germany, as Northern Germans are often perceived that way by the rest of Germany, so are [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell Eastern Germans when mixed with tragic flavor]].
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21	Not so much TruthInTelevision: TV Germans also seem to get angry quite easily, often yelling and having fits that make them sound like, well... [[ThoseWackyNazis you know.]] (Of course, just as EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench, everything sounds angrier in German.)
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23	Another variant of the "serious German" trope is to have a German character attempt to tell a joke, and fail miserably, thus providing us with the quote page's horrible joke. Really, we apologize. Although GermanHumor does include a ''lot'' of untranslatable puns itself...
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25	It should also be noted, that this trope is generally not too old, and hails back to the era of Frederick the Great (18th century) who received his name for his unexpected and decisive military victories over France and Austria, tripling the size of the Kingdom of Prussia in the process, but until Bismarck (late 19th century) this trope was usually limited to the German military. See the 1632 entry below for a history-accurate point of view an Englishman or American could have possibly had about Germans.
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27	See also GermanicEfficiency.
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29	And as to the quote at the top of this page: "flauschig", "flaumig", "weich" and "flockig" can all translate to "fluffy" depending on context. For a more one-to-one translation see also the anglicism "fluffig".
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35	* In a slight variation, Israeli wooden furniture company [[http://www.etzmaleh.co.il/content.php?id=19 Etzmaleh]] (lit. 'full wood', but [[{{Pun}} written in a way that uses the 'le' part as a diminutive suffix]]) [[TakeThat poked fun]] at [=IKEA=] ran a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFpn7tK57K4 series]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZYiCvHFapc of]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHKN1--PQsw commercials]] showing Swedish children reading, knitting, and playing music quietly, followed by Israeli children jumping and playing, with the line, 'Swedish kids should be supplied with Swedish furniture. Israeli kids need strong furniture from [[TitleDrop Etzmaleh]][=/=][[{{Pun}} made of full wood]].'
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39	* The generally taciturn Hoover Kippenburg in the ''Manga/{{Area 88}}'' manga was stricken with guilt over a training accident back in Europe that killed several pilots. When he briefly takes over for Commander Saki during the Wolfpack arc, Shin describes Hoover's style as steady and methodical.
40	* Uryuu Ishida from ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': While probably not actually being German (he is a Quincy, but they are based on Germans in terms of culture), he is a very serious character who never relaxes. Even around his friends and in peace time he will always stay stern and unsmiling. His friends are sometimes thrown off by this attitude.
41	* In ''Manga/{{Cyborg 009}}'', the German Cyborg Albert Heinrich/004 is given one of the most tragic backstories as an UsefulNotes/EastGermany escapé who loses his fiancée and has his body half-torn in their escape, is reconstructed as a ''heavily'' armored Cyborg by Black Ghost, and then is put into a coma for many years. Though he (thankfully) doesn't reach {{wangst}} levels, he often remarks on how everything has changed for him and shows deep worry [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul about how much of a human he truly is]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman due to all his implants]].
42	* In ''Manga/EmmaAVictorianRomance'', the Mölders family and many of their staff are from Germany, but with the sole exception of dour, silent footman Hans, they completely avert this trope.
43	* ''Manga/FromEroicaWithLove'': Klaus von dem Eberbach exemplifies this trope to the tenth degree. Hates disorder, doesn't know how to relax (literally), uptight, conservative, and always clad in a suit - Klaus can send the stress levels of a room soaring just by walking in. Interestingly though, he's the only German to conform to [[NationalStereotypes his national stereotype]] in a series rife with them: his German underlings include a [[WholesomeCrossdresser sweet natured transvestite]] somewhat prone to hysterics, a beleaguered second in command, a goofy third in command and an earnest rookie.
44	* Most of the members of the German-themed Kuromorimine Womens' College of ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' are quite serious, and have difficulty lightening up. Maho, commander of the tankery team, calls some of them over for a Christmas party, but they mistake it for a review of their recent mistakes in tankery, and dread it. In the party, Maho often finds herself not knowing what to do, and wondering what her younger sister Miho, a former student that [[GoingNative has been 'naturalized' by her colorful new school]], would do in the situation.
45	* Victor Hillshire from ''Manga/GunslingerGirl'' gave off this vibe early in the manga, to the point where Jose [[LampshadeHanging pointed it out]] when Hillshire was asking him for advice in how to relate to his cyborg Triela. He later reveals that he doesn't socialize with children well, and Triela in particular because [[spoiler:he rescued her from a SnuffFilm death back from when he was in Europol in a bungled raid that got his partner killed, kidnapped her from custody from the Dutch police and brought her to Italy for treatment before he found out the true nature of the Social Welfare Agency, then was threatened and blackmailed into becoming her handler.]] Now, ironically, they're the closest ''fratello'' group other than Sandro and Petra, who actually took it [[RelationshipUpgrade a step further]].
46	* ''Webcomic/HetaliaAxisPowers''. Germany, of course. The thing is, this trope originates with Prussia's disciplined military culture that dominates perceptions of Germans, but Prussia himself represents this by being a fiercely HotBlooded warrior, so not depressive at all, even though he's the origin of the trope. However, it is said his true nature is even more methodical and serious than Germany's.
47	** The comic also acknowledges that south Germans are supposed to be nice and jolly (they gave us Oktoberfest), but Austria is even ''stricter'' than Germany, if more refined and aristocratic. However, that Austrians are perceived as more carefree than Germans does manifest in different ways, such as how Austria throws his clothes around and leaves his underwear around his house.
48	** This trope is also played straight with the grumpy, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold unfriendly]] and somewhat [[TheCynic pessimistic]] [[TheGunslinger Switzerland]], but averted with the very [[NiceGirl sweet and cheerful]] [[ProperLady Liechtenstein]].
49	* Constanze from ''Franchise/LittleWitchAcademia'' is either from Germany or Austria, she never speaks, never smiles or emotes beside some grumpy looks and is completely focused on working and nothing else. She is implied to suffer from some form of mental illness. [[spoiler:Though [[WhenSheSmiles she does smile]] at the end of an episode.]]
50	* Signum of ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'', while not an actual German, [[FantasyCounterpartCulture comes from an alien culture that uses a lot of]] GratuitousGerman. She's the very image of a true soldier, which is why her new partner [[spoiler:Agito]] finds her to be an utter drag. The FourthWallMailSlot had Fate advising her to "relax" when she asked for tips on how to be "buddy-like" with her partner. A bit of a problem since Signum ''hates'' to be relaxed.
51	** In the first ''A's'' Sound Stage, Hayate, after noticing Signum initially decline her invitation to go to the public baths with her, Shamal and Vita, asks Signum if she still isn't used to the idea of spending time with her mistress. Hayate ultimately gets Signum to come along by essentially saying that it should be okay for her if her mistress says it is.
52	* Inverted in ''Manga/TonariNoKashiwagiSan'' with [[ForeignExchangeStudent Tina]], who is the most cheerful and outgoing member of the cast.
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56	* German stand-up Creator/HenningWehn has had a fair amount of success in Britain (frequently appearing on {{Panel Show}}s) with a shtick that [[ZigZaggingTrope by turns]] lampshades, defies and [[AntiHumor plays straight]] the stereotype.
57	* Creator/PattonOswalt [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LA_Pt7pKs does a bit]] about Germans being completely humourless and serious all the time in his special "Tragedy Plus Comedy Equals Time". His theory is that Germans purposely try to quash all attempts at humour as soon as possible because they think if ''anyone'' is allowed to joke about ''anything'', it's only a matter of time before some snarky tourist starts making AllGermansAreNazis jokes.
58	-->'''Patton:''' ''[seeing a nightclub with red laser pointers shining on the outside walls]'' Oh, [[LaserSight looks like the snipers are out tonight]].\
59	'''German Cab Driver:''' No, zose are not sniper rifles, vhat zey have done is zey have pointed many small laser pointers at zee outside of zee nightclub to create a sort of visual effect. ''[{{beat}}]'' But even if zey ''vere'' sniper rifles, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial you vill notice zat zey are in no way pointed at any Jews]]!
60	* German satirist Volker Pispers ''thrives'' on this. His shows start out like stand-up comedy with him making jokes about teachers, politicians or similar with a childish smile and once the audience laughs, he will instantly frown and berate them for laughing, going at lengths to explain why the situation for the regarding person/issue is dire and how dramatically bad everything is. In fact, the more funny he starts out, the more depressing his rant will become and all jokes that might happen during his rant will be salty BlackComedy.
61	* While most German comedy shows actually run on RuleOfFunny and {{Slapstick}}, almost all of them have a few sketches that work entirely on TheComicallySerious or TheEeyore. One example would be the sketch series [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUHxJDbnMgk "Schlechte Zeiten, schlechte Zeiten"]] [[note]]"Bad times, bad times"[[/note]] (a parody on the German soap series "Gute Zeiten, Schlechte Zeiten" [[note]]"Good times, bad times"[[/note]]) which was about a shared flat of suicidal people doing mundane tasks, usually with one person already dead at the beginning and at least one more committing suicide during the sketch.
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65	* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'': In ''Recap/AsterixAndTheGoths'' the Goths (here anachronistically and incorrectly used as a blanket name for the Germanic tribes living northeast of Roman Gaul[[note]] The historic Goths were a group of tribes - Ostrogoths and Visigoths - that first came into contact and conflict with the Romans during the 3rd century A.D. in South-East Europe and whose forefathers, if semi-legendary accounts can be trusted, possibly lived in the region of the lower Vistula (Gdansk etc.) in what is now Poland around the time in which ''Asterix'' is set, ca. 50 B.C.[[/note]]) were cast as militaristic war-mongering villains, playing into the AllGermansAreNazis trope. Creators Creator/ReneGoscinny and Creator/AlbertUderzo later regretted the tone of this story, saying it was made only twenty years after the war when anti-German sentiments were still vivid. In later Asterix stories Germans are portrayed in a more sympathetic light, though still as people who are often deadly serious.
66	* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Kurt Wagner a.k.a. ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}} was intended to be an aversion of this, a light-hearted Errol Flynn type. He was introduced as devout as any other lay Catholic simply to demonstrate his [[DarkIsNotEvil demonism was only skin-deep]] and to heighten the injustice of the religious superstition against him. However, through MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks he became more of a SadClown, then as {{Wangst}}y as any X-Man. Recently he was killed outright and apparently replaced with a DarkerAndEdgier AlternateUniverse [[Comicbook/AgeOfApocalypse version]] of himself. He's come back as of ''Amazing X-Men'' (vol.2) #5 [[spoiler: but as he's apparently had to sacrifice his soul to keep Azazel out of Heaven, there's no reason not to expect a BreakTheCutie plot with him in the future]].
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70	* ''WesternAnimation/Cars2'': Professor Otto Wolfgang Zündapp, or Professor Z for short, who is part of the Lemons and is thought to be the mastermind behind the movie's terroristic attacks during the World Grand Prix (where, in reality, that's actually [[spoiler:[[EvilBrit Sir Miles Axlerod]], the leader of the Lemons]]). What's even more interesting about his case is that he's voiced by [[Creator/ThomasKretschmann a legitimate German actor]].
71	* ''WesternAnimation/RaggedyAnnAndAndyAMusicalAdventure'': King Koo Koo is angry and bitter because he thinks his small size makes him unimportant. He can make his body grow, but only by [[{{Schadenfreude}} laughing at the misfortune of others]]. He's also the only main character with a German accent.
72	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'': Horst has a stern and serious demeanor, though he is also TheComicallySerious because of how he keeps changing his story about how he was sent to prison.
73	* ''WesternAnimation/SantaClausIsCominToTown'': Burgermeister Meisterburger is a fun-hating, iron-fisted old codger with a strong German accent. He maintains a strict rule over Sombertown, keeping everyone miserable.
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77	* The black-clad German nihilists in ''Film/TheBigLebowski''. They believe in ''nozzing!'' Even Walter, a Jewish man, prefers Nazis over them.
78	-->'''The Dude:''' They were Nihilists, man. They kept saying they believed in nothing.\
79	'''Walter:''' Nihilists... fuck me. I mean, say what you will about the tenets of [[ThoseWackyNazis National Socialism]], dude, at least it's an ethos.
80	* Creator/KennethWilliams as Commandant Burger in ''Film/CarryOnInTheLegion'', who is very strict, cold, and takes everything seriously. Even when shot, he doesn't react.
81	* Creator/WernerHerzog and Creator/RainerWernerFassbinder, widely acclaimed German directors, whose movies often end with {{Downer Ending}}s, and are mostly(in Fassbinder's case - always) on cynicism side of SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism.
82	* Creator/MatthiasSchweighofer is known for specifically subverting/averting the trope in his acting choices, preferring to play upbeat and/or quirky characters.
83	* Contrast the German art-house film, ''Film/WingsOfDesire'', with its American quasi-remake, ''Film/CityOfAngels'', and note how the commoners behave in both films. The former very much lives up to this trope.
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87	* Inverted in the ''Literature/SixteenThirtyTwo'' series, where the "downtime" Germans consider ''the Americans'' to be the uptight, stuffy, and unnecessarily organized ones. (So does just about everybody else.)
88	--> Rebecca's own brows were furrowed. ''"Alles in ordnung?" What is he talking about? Germans are the most unruly and undisciplined people in Europe.''\
89	Germans! Who squabbled about everything, including even the language they spoke, and were notorious throughout Europe for the production of religious sects, mass rebellions, mercenary soldiers, everything ''except'' order.
90	* German siblings Hans and Petra in ''Literature/{{Caliphate}}''. He is more dour and resentful while she is ProneToTears, though considering they were taken as slaves from their family and the [[ChildSoldiers sort]] [[BreakTheCutie of]] [[DefiledForever things]] they go through, it's more than justified.
91	* In one of the ''Literature/FatherBrown'' stories, an Italian actress storms off in a temper and locks herself in her room. The rest of the troupe debate whether to break the door down to prevent her committing suicide. Father Brown (half-jokingly?) says that as she's Italian there's no need, but had she been a German "gone away to think about ''Weltschmerz''" he would be all for knocking the door down.
92	* At the start of ''[[Literature/TroyRising Live Free or Die]]'' when astronomers are trying to figure out what the [[PortalNetwork Grtul gate]] actually is as it moves into the solar system, one character asks if it's a joke. He's told that they were notified of it by the Max Planck Institute in Germany, which prompts the conclusion that it's not a prank, as Germans "[f]amously don't have a sense of humor".
93	* ''Literature/TheMartian'': Subverted. Vogel ''does'' have a sense of humor, and his goofiness comes out when he is talking to his family (among other things, he refers to his children as "the monkeys"). Among the ARES crew he tends towards stoicism, in part because he, like Germans in general, does not consider "joking about it" to be a catch-all way of dealing with problems in the same way Anglos do, and in part because he thinks being TheComicallySerious StraightMan to Martinez' ClassClown and Beck's DeadpanSnarker is way funnier than his own routines.
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98	* ''Series/TwoBrokeGirls'': In Episode 6 of Season 6 Sophie is trying to get her baby Barbra to laugh, without success. When she enters the diner she delivers this line:
99	--->'''Sophie:''' Hey everybody! We're here! Yeah, me and the Ice Queen. You know, if she doesn't laugh soon, people will think she's German.
100	* While preparing for a negotiation with German TV executives, Jack Donaghy of ''Series/ThirtyRock'' watches some of their programming, which is bleak, artsy and not shot in color. (These are apparently sitcoms.)
101	* An example from Germany itself: ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_das_Brot Bernd das Brot]]'' (Bernd the Bread), a (slightly) anthropomorphic loaf-of-bread puppet; supposedly only working in television due to a lack of other employment opportunities, always at the butt-end of practical jokes and stunts set up by the producers and his well-meaning colleagues (a sheep and a bush), instead of just being left alone to memorise the pattern of his wallpaper and expand his collection of the most boring railway track videos. Interestingly, this world-weary sufferer originated on a children's channel, with the nightly repeat of the sketches greatly expanding his adult fanbase. Following this he even became a topic for high-brow newspaper columns, with commentators linking his popularity to the over-the-top, PlayedForLaughs portrayal of his depression resonating with the German psyche. One interpretation is that Bernd's popularity stems from his claiming the right to be unhappy in the hyper-happy media-dominated world of today. A bit like a box-shaped [[Literature/BraveNewWorld Savage]].
102	* ''Series/{{Blackadder}} Goes Forth'' - Blackadder describes how well-founded "the Teutonic reputation for brutality" is while he and Baldrick are prisoners of war. However, the promised FateWorseThanDeath turns out to be [[spoiler: teaching home economics in a girls' school outside Heidelberg.]] It's intended to be an unbearable humiliation for men of honor, but somehow fails to have the expected result on Blackadder.
103	* [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Peter Schuler]] plays with this trope in ''Series/BreakingBad''. He's definitely glum and morose, [[TheComicallySerious even when eating tater tots]], but other Germans find this behavior off-putting and odd. But you'd be depressed too if [[spoiler: you were contemplating suicide after your drug dealing operation got dismantled.]]
104	* ''Series/TheColbertReport'' has a recurring character, German UN ambassador Hans Beinholtz, who shows up exclusively to make things more dour and depressing. Some of his highlights:
105	** Struggling to understand the concept of "cupcakes."
106	** Presenting a sock puppet that he insists is not alive and convincing Stephen that [[Franchise/TheMuppets Kermit the Frog]] is actually a being of pure selfishness.
107	--> "His name is Cuckoo [=McButtons=]. But he does not speak, for he is a lifeless piece of cloth."
108	** Proclaiming that he has World Cup fever, which he describes as "the terrible disease of nationalism and competition, the twin seeds of war. Go team."
109	** Upon hearing that pessimistic people live longer, declaring that he will surely live a long miserable life.
110	* ''Series/TheDanaCarveyShow'' had two characters called [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "the Germans who say nice things."]] They [[AllGermansAreNazis stood side by side at attention, shouting]] things like "EET VOS A PLEASURE BABYSITTING KEVIN" and "''MR. HOLLAND'S OPUS'' IS THE FEEL-GOOD MOVIE OF THE YEEEEEAR!"
111	* Averted in the Irish sitcom Series/{{Killinaskully}} by Dieter, who almost never loses his sunny disposition despite the often downright outlandish behaviour of the EccentricTownsfolk.
112	* Also averted by Otto and Gretchen Mankusser of ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'', who are unfailingly cheerful, good-natured, and ditzy.
113	* Anna Schmidt of ''Series/MindYourLanguage'' fits the trope, since all the characters embody caricatures of the stereotypes about their home country.
114	* ''Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'': This was the secondary idea to the 'World's Funniest Joke' sketch. It was so funny, [[BrownNote anyone who heard it died laughing]], so of course the British employed it as a weapon of war. (A particularly well-trained SS officer was capable of resisting the joke for a few seconds.) German attempts to develop a counter weapon were...unsuccessful.
115	--> '''Hitler''': Mein Hund hat keine Nase![[note]]My dog has no nose![[/note]]
116	--> '''Hitlerjugend''': ''Wie riecht er''?[[note]]How does it smell?[[/note]]
117	--> '''Hitler''': Schrecklich![[note]][[{{Pun}} Awful!]][[/note]]
118	* In the ''Series/{{Qi}}'' episode "Empire", Alan Davies mentions that he was once on a flight to Berlin, and most of the other passengers were German. According to Alan, the other passengers were laughing uproariously at a program on their in-flight movie screens, and when Alan glanced at some of the screens, it turned out to be ''Series/MrBean''.
119	-->'''Bill Bailey''': There's a certain [[GermanicEfficiency efficiency]] to it. He does something, then he falls over. First he was walking in a straight line, then he walked into the door! Genius!\
120	'''Alan''': "Zis is vat happens ven you break ze rules! Ha ha!"
121	* Recurring characters The Nihilists from ''The Ronnie John's Half Hour'' fit this trope to a T, always dressed in black, with stoic faces and never smiling. The more Unfunny they were, the funnier the sketch. One sketch had them leading an aerobics class at a gym, and, when asked to start the warm-ups, one of them replied, "My body is always cold." Other sketches have included them hosting a children's television show and a Seinfield parody of sorts.
122	* ''Series/RootIntoEurope'': While travelling in Germany the British man Mr. Root assumes all Germans have no sense of comedy. He is proven wrong immediately while entering a German bar. As he bumps into a glass door all Germans inside immediately laugh at him.
123	* ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'':
124	** Creator/MikeMyers' Dieter character from the recurring skit "Sprockets" certainly had a grim façade, although he also seemed to take pleasure in his weirdness.
125	** Kate [=McKinnon's=] portrayal of Angela Merkel falls into this a little, but there's definitely a healthy, albeit very dry sense of humor under the surface. (And a poorly-hidden crush on Barack Obama.)
126	--->''Baracht... is it vorking? Am I making you jealous? Leave Michelle.''
127	* One challenge on ''Series/TopGear'' required the presenters to go to "the world's least amusing city"... which of course turned out to be Berlin.
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131	* Music/MitchBenn's "A Song for Europe", which attacked every competitor in the Series/EurovisionSongContest, ending with [[SelfDeprecation the UK]], and frequently using cultural stereotypes, opens by calling the Germans "fundamentally incapable of fun".
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135	* The inhabitants of ''TabletopGame/SeventhSea'''s Eisen (which is Germany with a minimal rename) are practically required to be like this. Of course, their entire country was dashed to pieces by a holy war, so they have an excuse.
136	* Natives of Krieg in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Although in their case it's justified: they're a MartyrdomCulture consisting almost entirely of clones due to the planet rebelling and being reconquered with '''half a millennia of nuking''. Since then, they seek to atone by using WWI trench warfare tactics in full coats and gas masks (their planet is still radioactive). Their conformity, fatalism and zeal for dying fighting cause them to need [[ThePoliticalOfficer Commissars]] not for maintaining order and morale as is usually a Commissar's main duties, but to liaison with regiments from other worlds because they reliably creep everyone else out. To be completely fair, while their helmets are mostly German styled, their uniform also have [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI WWI]]-French influences, like a crest upon their helmet like the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_helmet French Adrian helmet]] and their overcoats are French.
137	* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'': The Empire of Man, the protagonist faction of the setting, is [[FantasyCounterpartCulture based largely on]] the real life Holy Roman Empire. Most people you will meet in the Empire are dour, miserable and xenophobic. [[CrapsackWorld They have every reason to be.]]
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141	* In ''Theatre/TheMerchantOfVenice'', one of the suitors Portia and Nerissa are discussing is the Count of Palatine (The Rhenish Palatinate region in southwestern Germany, to the northwest of Bavaria). Portia describes his face as being that of a PerpetualFrowner who never smiles at jokes, and is so prone to moodiness as if to say "If you won't marry me, then find someone else and see if I care!" Portia predicts that if rejected, he will become a melancholy philosopher, and she would rather prefer the company of a skull and crossbones than the gloomy County Palatine.
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145	* While ''Franchise/AceAttorney'''s Miles Edgeworth isn't German by birth, he has a German mentor (also an example of this trope) and spent much of his youth in Germany, so he qualifies. Franziska von Karma is also an example. (Mind you, this is only in the localized version; in the original game the Karumas are American.)
146	* ''VideoGame/CarnEvil'''s main villain is Professor Ludwig von Tökkentäkker, a German MadScientist-slash-RepulsiveRingmaster with a ControlFreak complex. He gets frustrated that the protagonist won't give himself up and let Tökkentäkker turn him into another mutant carnival freak, and demands that the protagonist obey him. He does do an EvilLaugh and other EvilIsHammy behaviors, but he's still a gloomy PerpetualFrowner.
147	* Gunther Hermann from ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' is a bundle of angst and frustration who takes ''everything'' seriously, whether it's the death of a friend or the [[SeriousBusiness unavailability of orange soda]].
148	* Mr. Adler from ''VisualNovel/DoubleHomework'', though gentle, isn’t really shown to have a sense of humor.
149	* Taken to an extreme in ''Videogame/LimboOfTheLost'' with the Worrymeister, a diminutive bureaucrat with a terrible German accent whose job is to worry about the other residents of limbo. While he's not really obstructive, he's always EXTREMELY depressed.
150	* Sasha Nein from ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'' is a brooding, thoughtful fellow who is made all the more funny by the whackiness going on around him. This makes him a fairly good teacher for away-with-the-fairies Raz.
151	* Johann Strauss from ''VideoGame/QuakeIV'', Rhino Squad's high-strung InsufferableGenius technician, never expresses a single positive emotion. When he isn't frustrated or scared, he's dead serious about his assignments and tasks.
152	%%(ZCE)* Siegfried of the ''VideoGame/SoulSeries'', but then, he has every right to be depressed given his backstory.
153	* ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'''s The Medic swaps constantly between 'cross and dour' to [[FourEyesZeroSoul 'just plain crazy']]. He seems fairly cheerful throughout "Meet the Medic", and a few of his [[HollerButton voice clips]] are puns, but even more of them are complaining about his own team. This element of his character has gradually been reversed with each update, to the point that in the Halloween 2012 event, ''all'' of his lines are completely enthusiastic, making him a canonically gleeful MadDoctor.
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157	* Germany in ''Webcomic/ScandinaviaAndTheWorld'' is basically the poster child of this trope, due to him being the personification of the country and also having a lot of guilt issues.
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161	* ''WebVideo/CriticalRole's'' second campaign brings us Caleb Widogast, a Wizard protrayed by Creator/LiamOBrien with a German accent and a sullen, aloof attitude.
162	* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': Remnant is a ConstructedWorld without a Germany, but Weiss Schnee has a German name. She's nicknamed "the Ice Queen" for a reason. Weiss is an aloof LonelyRichKid who learns to become [[DefrostingIceQueen more friendly]] through CharacterDevelopment.
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166	* In the ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'' episode "The Sad, Sad Tale of Chickenfoot", Membrane introduces Dib to the world leaders he's having a conference with. Seeing that he's watching a report about Chickenfoot, they all start laughing at him, except for the German guy. (According to the DVD commentary, you can tell he's German because he has a monocle).
167	* The Germans get fed up with this stereotype in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', [[SeriousBusiness raiding South Park Elementary's "Comedy Awards"]] forcing Jimmy to deny that the Germans are the least funny people in the world. [[GoneHorriblyRight Then they introduce their creation, FunnyBot]].
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171	* The fact that the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schopenhauer founder]] of [[DespairEventHorizon philosophical pessimism]] was German probably doesn't help this trope much. Neither does Creator/FriedrichNietzsche, for that matter.
172	** For some strange reason, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Leibniz the founder of philosophical optimism]] (mentioned in ''Literature/{{Candide}}'') was German too. [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker Philosophy is kind of their thing]].
173	* Creator/TheMarxBrothers' parents were both Germans [[note]]Technically their father was an Alsatian--no, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Shepherd_Dog not that kind]]--a Germanic culture now in French territory (the elder Marx's friends called him "Frenchie")[[/note]]. Groucho originally played a Germanic accented character which he dropped just about WWI, but it was the DashingHispanic that secured their type.
174	* Disproved in Creator/SpikeMilligan's war diaries with the anecdote that at a reunion many years later a German friend of one of the people came along and Spike discovered that they had been on opposite sides of the same hill in Italy in one engagement. The German quickly passed Spike a note which read "Sorry to have missed you during the war"...
175	* The world's largest {{Goth}} convention, Wave Gotik Treffen takes place in Leipzig, Germany.
176	** Though if you attend you'll notice it's anything but [[PerkyGoth depressive.]]
177	* Would you believe there's a German comedian, slam poet and [[HeAlsoDid Member of the European Parliament]] with a depressive shtick? Nico Semsrott's "stand-up tragedy" program is called (translated) "Joy is just a lack of information".
178	* Music/GustavMahler's music is often very dark, moody and brooding. One of his oldest works was "Das Klagende Lied" ("The Song of Lament") and "Kindertotenlieder" ("Songs on the Death of Children") is also not exactly the happiest of subjects. "Das Lied von der Erde" also deals with tragic themes. And, of course, his famous "6th Symphony" is referred to as "Tragische" ("Tragic").
179	* Music/LudwigVanBeethoven had a rather dark and cynical demeanor, and this greatly increased when he realized he was going deaf. This is reflected in his writings, such as the [[https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Heiligenstadt_Testament Heiligenstadt Testament]], how he despaired of his loss of hearing and admitted to contemplating suicide, but [[{{Determinator}} knew he still had more music to create]].
180	* Dallas Mavericks legend Dirk Nowitzki often was regarded in the media and by his teammates as a pessimist.
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183	Remember... vee Germans are not all smiles und sunshine.

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