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6	->'''Yorick:''' As far as answers go, it was vaguely unsatisfying.\
7	'''Beth:''' Is there any explanation that would have been satisfactory?\
8	'''Yorick:''' Um, aliens? I would have also accepted witchcraft or anything involving nanobots.
9	-->-- ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan''
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11	People love a good [[DrivingQuestion mystery]] and will watch or read a story to the very end just to find out its answer. Sometimes though, for whatever reason, they don't like the answer. The fans then decide it would have been better to just leave the PlotThreads hanging, which would have given them mulch for their EpilepticTrees.
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13	When a show [[OntologicalMystery has a premise]] that hinges on one or more big unanswered questions, fans feel there is an obligation that these questions be answered. Failure to do so leads to TheChrisCarterEffect, which can turn off fans in frustration. Likewise, not answering ''enough'' questions in a KudzuPlot alienates fans. The hard place to the above rock is that when a series answers a question and the answer isn't quite as epic, clever, or [[MindScrew mind-shattering]] as imagined. Maybe fan expectations are just too high. Maybe the answer is honestly unsatisfying. Maybe the answer conflicts with the genre established earlier in the work, like a [[DoingInTheWizard sci-fi explanation in a fantasy book]] or [[DoingInTheScientist vice-versa]]. Maybe it reveals that a character that did something seemingly of their own free will was instead subject to MindControl or brainwashing. Maybe it reveals that rather than TheHero succeeding because of their own merits they [[BecauseDestinySaysSo were destined by a higher power to do so]]. Maybe it's a question no one asked or wanted to be answered at all, meaning ''no'' answer would be satisfying.
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15	Regardless, the fans hear your explanation, and they don't like it. It's a Fan-Disliked Explanation.
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17	It should be noted that one factor in whether fans expect a mystery to be resolved or not is how prominent and important it was made originally. ''Series/{{Lost}}'' made such a huge deal about the mystery of "the numbers" that expectations for the solution were raised to an incredible pitch. In the case of Literature/SherlockHolmes's backstory, though, it is made abundantly clear that it's irrelevant and that no clarification is to be expected.
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19	NoodleIncident becoming ResolvedNoodleIncident can sometimes lead to this reaction, especially when it has taken a long time to resolve it. Sometimes explaining an incident does not have a middle ground between too mundane to be interesting and too bizarre to make sense.
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21	When the authors deliberately choose not to solve the mystery, possibly to avoid this trope, that's RiddleForTheAges. If fans outright ''reject'' a WordOfGod explanation as non-canonical, that can be an example of DeathOfTheAuthor.
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23	It's just like how everybody wants their {{ship\|ping}} to go through, but when it does, the result is ShippingBedDeath.
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25	Whether a show is better served by answering all, some, or none of the questions it raises varies by viewer. It's worth noting that this trope doesn't just focus on answers that are unsatisfying, but situations where an unanswered question actually ''helped'' the narrative. As you can expect, this is therefore YMMV.
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27	This sometimes overlaps with BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor, when fans prefer all the various explanations [[WantingIsBetterThanHaving rather than the actual answer]], and NothingIsScarier, where a monster becomes less scary or threatening once what it is and where it came from are explained.
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29	Compare CanonFodder and TheUnreveal. The exact opposite is {{Fanon}}, in which fan theories are widely treated as canon. If the explanation is disliked because it just raises further questions, then it's VoodooShark. This can occur in cases of WriterConflictsWithCanon. See also RetroactiveIdiotBall.
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33	[[index]]
34	* FanDislikedExplanation/AnimeAndManga
35	* [[FanDislikedExplanation/LiveActionFilms Films — Live-Action]]
36	* FanDislikedExplanation/LiveActionTV
37	* FanDislikedExplanation/VideoGames
38	* FanDislikedExplanation/WesternAnimation
39	[[/index]]
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41	!!Other examples:
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45	[[folder:Asian Animation]]
46	* ''Animation/StitchAndAi'':
47	** Several ''Franchise/LiloAndStitch'' fans took issue with the show not having any of [[Characters/LiloAndStitchExperiments Dr. Jumba Jookiba's genetic experiments]] appear (apart from Stitch himself), with the show instead having Jumba recreate Myth/{{Chinese mytholog\|y}}ical creatures based on what he reads on ancient Chinese scrolls given to him by a mysterious sage. Although the show's director, who was one of the executive producers of ''WesternAnimation/LiloAndStitchTheSeries'', explained that those creatures are all experiments, said fans didn't buy that, still seeing them as just recreated Chinese mythological creatures and saying that they are not exactly [[NoTrueScotsman "genuine"]] experiments, save for maybe Dim Long, the one new experiment with a recurring role on the show.
48	** Likewise, some fans didn't buy the director's claim that [[spoiler:Stitch's [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands metamorphosis program]] and newly-introduced [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever giant]] [[OneWingedAngel destructive form]] was what he was supposed to become all this time, but Lilo's and Ai's love for him was a suppressant for such]], especially considering that [[spoiler:Stitch is ''already'' dangerous and destructive enough as his normal pint-sized self]]. Furthermore, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVko1w0bH8 a deleted version of the original film's opening]] shows that Creator/ChrisSanders (the character's actual creator, who had no participation in this series whatsoever) never envisioned [[spoiler:giving Stitch this kind of ability]], and [[spoiler:Stitch's giant form]] also contradicts ''Lilo & Stitch: The Series'', specifically the episode "[[Recap/LiloAndStitchTheSeriesS1E29Shortstuff Short Stuff]]", which shows that [[spoiler:Stitch is much more clumsier when enlarged to a giant size]].
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51	[[folder:Comic Books]]
52	* The ''Film/TwentyEightDaysLater'' 2009-2011 comic series of the same name, which follows Selena after the movie's ending and explains her final fate at the end of ''Film/TwentyEightWeeksLater''. A lot of the fandom didn't like how the comics wrote Jim out via him being arrested and sentenced to execution for killing the rogue, would-be rapist soldiers that kidnapped his friends, while having comic-original character Clint Harris supplant Jim as Selena's love interest. Even on [[TheWikiRule the franchise's wiki]], whereas both movies and the ''28 Days Later: The Aftermath'' graphic novel all had articles and information since their inceptions, there was ''zero'' mention of the '09-'11 comic series for a long time, and the initial work towards adding information on and from the comics to the database was largely carried out by a single user.
53	* ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', despite its ability to follow through its separate storylines being credited as one of the reasons for its success, left a few plot threads dangling, particularly with regards to Booster Gold and Skeets due to an AbortedArc. The original storyline for Booster and Skeets involved them fixing the timeline of the universe, which had become broken in the recent ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. To set up this story Skeets had frequent memory errors, where events as they occurred were different (sometimes drastically so) than as they had been recorded in the future. However, after these issues had been written, the writers decided that this plot was too generic, and had been done too often before by other time-traveling heroes, so they decided to go in a different direction and have an actual malevolent entity responsible for everything, including Skeets' out-of-character actions. Eventually, the series revealed that Skeets had been infested and was being controlled by a matured Mr. Mind, who planned to eat reality. However, though this covered why Skeets himself was evil and why several of Booster later actions were disasters, it never addressed why Skeets' earlier memory errors occurred in the first place since they were before Mr. Mind escaped from his cocoon.
54	* ''ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSearch'' reveals what happened to Zuko's mother Ursa and why Ozai was an AbusiveParent to Zuko. [[spoiler:Ursa was forced to marry Ozai who threatened her true love interest, later claiming Zuko was her lover's child to confirm Ozai was spying on her correspondences which Ozai, who knew this was a lie, punished her for by mistreating Zuko. Ursa later willingly gave herself IdentityAmnesia so that she forgets her children unable to bear leaving them.]] This was disliked for making Ursa, popular for her MamaBear portrayal, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero responsible for all her son's misery]] and [[spoiler:a weak-willed coward]], and making Ozai a one-dimensional {{domestic abuse}}r cheapening his character and the families tragedy by revealing he never actually loved them.
55	* In ''ComicBook/BatmanBeyond'':
56	** The reason why Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson were estranged from one another was left unexplained. The comic book continuation of the series revealed that [[spoiler:Barbara Gordon (Batgirl) after breaking up with Bruce renewed her relationship with Dick. Then she found out that she was pregnant with Bruce's child. This caused a fight between the two men before Barbara miscarried while fighting muggers.]] Although the offscreen relationship between Bruce and Barbara was already controversial due to the large age difference, many fans felt that this plot would be more at home in a soap.
57	** The associated comic also explained the reason why Bruce and [[ComicBook/WonderWoman Diana]] never got together: she got together with [[spoiler:Justice Lord Batman after another adventure concerning the Lords' universe, and stayed there with him until peace was restored during the ''Beyond'' timeframe]]. This one is disliked because it doesn't mesh well with Diana's character: she was StrangledByTheRedString with [[spoiler:a ReplacementGoldfish (since Bruce thought inter-team dating was a bad idea)]], and she also [[spoiler:abandons her world a la Supergirl/Brainiac 5, except with even ''less'' reason (she had her home and family to return to, was Ambassador to Man's World, etc.)]] Furthermore, it was an explanation nobody needed or wanted--Bruce's obsession with the cowl is inevitably going to lead to him driving away all his loved ones and friends in the DCAU, we didn't need the additional angst to go with it.
58	* The attempt in the runup to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' to explain ComicBook/PowerGirl's costume (she always meant to put a symbol on her chest but never settled on one, reflecting her attempts to find an identity for herself and her lack of place in the universe) was relentlessly mocked for the simple reason of trying to come up with an angsty backstory reason for a ''[[CleavageWindow boob window]]''. Even the biggest fans of her costume design noted that it would be an infinitely more sensible explanation to simply say that Power Girl, as many women who are not interdimensional refugees do, enjoys wearing an outfit that accentuates her chest.
59	* ComicBook/ThePhantomStranger has four mutually exclusive origins, all of which were published in the same issue of ''Secret Origins'' and given equal weight. One of them was written by Creator/AlanMoore. Meanwhile, in the ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'', ComicBook/ThePhantomStranger now has a definitive origin. ([[spoiler:He's Judas Iscariot.]]) True to form, a lot of people prefer him to have no origin, in no small part because the aforementioned one hooked him up with an InNameOnly revamp of ComicBook/TheQuestion and a new character, Pandora, who was unceremoniously killed off in ''Rebirth''.
60	* ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'':
61	** "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWIssue25To26 The Good, the Bad and the Ponies]]": Twilight Sparkle explains she can't use her StoryBreakerPower to stop the the villains due to a law that princesses can't use their powers against Equestria's citizens even if they were threatening and attacking her friends and others. This was universally despised as horrifically {{out of character\|Moment}} for Twilight, who had/would become the Princess of Friendship by [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E26TwilightsKingdomPart2 willing to sacrifice the only chance at saving Equestria to save her friends]], to be unwilling to do so especially over a law so arbitrary/minor [[AssPull it never came up when Twilight and the Princesses used their powers on others prior]]. Even those who felt this could have been theoretically valid balked once she used fraud and kidnapping (one of those she supposedly couldn't use her powers against) to trick the villains into breaking a mere property law and then used her magic to imprison them, making it so morally inconsistent it sunk whatever credibility the law had and left no reason for not just writing Twilight out of this story. Luckily the writers realized how poorly received it was and ignored it since with Twilight not hesitating to use her powers to protect others.
62	** Since the ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFiendshipIsMagic'' tackled the backstories of the major-league villains from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', this was inevitable:
63	*** Good luck finding anyone who views the banishment of the Sirens to the present in ''Issue #3'', thus [[{{Jossed}} invalidating]] their ReallySevenHundredYearsOld aspect {{fanon}} held them to, as necessary or desirable.
64	*** ''Nobody'' liked the Nyx ([[FanNickname disparagingly nicknamed]] the "Moon Furbies") from ''Issue #4'' and the explanation that they create all dreams, nightmares, and Princess Luna's {{Dream Walk\|er}}ing abilities, simply because it was overly silly and killed a lot of the mystique surrounding Luna's ability to enter dreams. The explanation that Princess Celestia had the same ability to enter dreams as Luna was similarly disliked since fans felt it [[UniquenessDecay severely diminished what made Luna special]], to the point that the show itself [[DiscontinuityNod explicitly stated otherwise in a later episode]]. Considering the metric truckload of fan art this franchise generates, it's very telling that this issue and its characters got next to none. The majority of fan art that it did get was made to [[https://trixiebooru.org/886775 mock]] or outright insult it.
65	*** ''Issue #5'' explained that the holes in the changeling's legs are leftover battle wounds from battling Princess Celestia a thousand years ago. While fans were fine with the idea of Chrysalis herself being that old, most found it odd and off-putting that the entire changeling species was just that one swarm that never aged, healed, or increased in number. Again, this along with their entire origin was given a DiscontinuityNod in the main canon that instead shows that changelings are born with these holes, that they live and age normally, and that the holes and generally emaciated appearance is the result of them constantly being hungry instead.
66	** Speaking of backstories, fans were ''not'' happy with the way the main series' Cosmos arc effectively whitewashed Discord's past villainy by portraying his past self as the [[TokenGoodTeammate Token Good Sidekick]] and lovesick character in an abusive relationship -- and as a generally well-intentioned character from the beginning and not responsible for any of the actual evil from his first reign -- rather than the genuinely villainous and chaotic character the show portrayed him as. The consensus is that this revelation throws Discord's entire characterization from the tv series completely out the window for the sake of establishing Cosmos as a more serious threat, that it profoundly damages the impact of his journey towards good by removing a need for it, that it ruins the significance of Fluttershy being his first friend by establishing that he did in fact have friends in the past, that it robs the character of much of the agency that made him such a memorable villain in the first place, and that it cheapens the series' core theme of ThePowerOfFriendship by revealing he was GoodAllAlong rather than a [[LoveRedeems truly malicious creature who was changed for the better by friendship]]. Even fans who like the comic [[FanWank tend to be fairly adamant]] that the backstory was false and that Discord was [[UnreliableExpositor lying about what really happened]].
67	** In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWHolidays2014 IDW Holidays 2014]], the Crusaders stated reason for framing Sunset Shimmer is disliked for failing to bring up Sunsets past actions that would have made it and how EasilyForgiven they were more justifiable and failing to explain why they continued to frame her after achieving that goal.
68	** The 10th Anniversary short "Written by Spike" revealed the comics were written by Spike InUniverse, explaining their continuity errors and inconsistency with the show were in-universe Artistic License. This proved just as contentious for [[VoodooShark raising new issues]] regarding Spike being responsible for the comics poorly-received moments and portrayals of his friends despite claiming his changes were to improve the work.
69	** In the ''[[ComicBook/MyLittlePony2022 Generation 5 comics]]'', it's revealed what caused HappyEndingOverride of G4. According to the comics, it started shortly after [[DistantFinale "The Last Problem"]] when [[spoiler:Opaline manipulated the pony tribes into prejudice against each other over their magic, which caused such disastrous consequences, Twilight Sparkle resorted to gathering all the world magic into the Unity Crystals so they'd only have magic if in harmony with each other]]. This was widely criticized by the fanbase, as the Mane Six have [[AesopAmnesia dealt with this same thing before]] and without resorting to such drastic measures, and it's questionable how the ponies would turn against each other so quickly when Twilight's reign was a golden age of harmony throughout the known world. Further, it gave more fuel to complaints about Twilight taking the throne that under her rule peace only lasted a matter of decades and was so fragile that it was all undone by [[spoiler:a single pony]]. While if this is still canon is suspect given the show [[spoiler:had Spike far older when the Unity Crystals were created]] suggesting it happened much later than in the comics, later explanations being so vague and contradictory that this original expiation remains the only substantive attempt and effort to connect the continues hasn't helped.
70	* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'':
71	** Good luck finding anyone who found the reveal that Tails' parents [[spoiler:were taken by BEM scientist Ceneca-9009 to her home planet]] to be necessary or satisfying.
72	** Around the same time, it was revealed that the same spoiler-tagged character was responsible for the mass dereboticization in "The Last Robian". This explanation was widely seen as lazy.
73	** A lot of fans hated the name Ken Penders intended to give Sonic (Ogilvie), due to it being incredibly silly-sounding (of course, given Sonic's earlier reaction to someone bringing up his birth name, [[EmbarrassingFirstName this may have been the point]]). Ian Flynn agreed, and apart from explaining that Sonic had his name legally changed, he never revealed his first name at all during his run.
74	** The reveal that [[spoiler:Mobius was EarthAllAlong, having been bombarded with "Gene Bombs" by an alien race called the Xorda in the late 21st century]], was near-universally despised, mainly because there were [[AssPull no hints about it beforehand and it left contradictory plotholes.]] (The original ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM'' was going to have a similar twist, but the comic had long since deviated from it.) The reveal that the spoiler-tagged event was responsible for the creation of the Chaos Emeralds was met with similar scorn, to the point that Ian Flynn himself would [[CanonDiscontinuity explicitly state otherwise]].
75	* The initial explanation for female Transformers in ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMegaseries''--there aren't any naturally, the sole one we know of is the result of a MadScientist's experiment that drove her crazy--was almost universally seen as the low point of Creator/SimonFurman's time on the book. Aside from making it seemingly impossible for others besides Arcee to exist, it seemingly personified MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecial (other Transformers are treated as male, and nobody asked for an origin for that), the implication that being turned into a woman [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil turned someone crazy and murderous]] has UnfortunateImplications on its face, and even if you agreed with Furman that female Transformers were silly or needed explaining, you would probably have preferred one that didn't raise so many weird questions. Later writers went with the more accepted answer that "having NoBiologicalSex doesn't mean you also have no gender; some Transformers just look like that and use female pronouns", and Arcee was given a retcon to make things a bit more palatable (she actually took part in the experiment willingly; it's just that he tortured her after he was done because he was a jackass).
76	* ''ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}'':
77	** [[ArcWelding The villain Romulus was stated to be behind most of the events in Wolverine's life, up to and including the Weapon X program]], and including new stuff like raising a previously unrevealed son of Wolverine named Daken to become his AntagonisticOffspring. Fans prefer the mystery not to be revealed in such a simplistic way or prefer the other dangling plot threads.
78	** The nature of the two characters' relationship was confusing, due to contradictions in the stories themselves. Romulus is a Wolverine look-alike, and was initially implied to be a direct ancestor of Wolvie. Some stories depicted him as being behind the deaths of nearly every woman in Wolvie's life, as a form of mental conditioning. Others depicted him simply as Wolvie's long-term boss. And one of Romulus' last appearances has him implying that they were business partners, and that some of the Weapon X plans were Wolverine's brainchild to begin with. Fans have had quite differing views on how to make sense of all the contradictory data in the stories.
79	* This is half of why ''ComicBook/TroubleMarvelComics'' is so reviled and isn't really canon with either the main Marvel universe or the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel one: it attempted to retcon that ComicBook/SpiderMan's father Richard Parker and Aunt May had an affair behind Mary Fitzpatrick and Uncle Ben's back as teens--[[spoiler:[[FamilyRelationshipSwitcheroo and that Peter himself was]] [[TeenPregnancy the product of it]]]], much to the hatred of fans and creators.[[note]]The other half being the incompatibility this attempted retcon had with mainline Marvel canon (Where May and Ben were established as far older than Richard and Mary and already married by the time Peter's parents even met) and with Ultimate Marvel (where Richard and Mary Parker were renowned scientists).[[/note]]
80	* Nearly every ''ComicBook/XMen'' fan hated Chuck Austen's revelation that ComicBook/{{Nightcrawler}}'s biological father was Azazel -- a demon (or possibly demon-like mutant) imprisoned in another dimension. Not only was there very little buildup or {{foreshadowing}} for that reveal, several readers were uncomfortable with the idea that the devoutly religious Kurt Wagner was secretly half-demon all along, and many saw it as a shoddy attempt at incorporating Christian mythology into the ''X-Men'' mythos (particularly since the same era featured the revelation that Archangel was descended from ''actual'' angels). It didn't help that many saw it as a BrokenAesop since Kurt was initially introduced being chased by racist, superstitious villagers who thought he was a demon when he was really just a guy with a skin condition--the Azazel story means the villagers were actually right the whole time. As an alternative, many fans [[{{Fanon}} prefer to accept]] Creator/ChrisClaremont's [[WhatCouldHaveBeen original plan]] for his backstory: ComicBook/{{Mystique}} and Destiny are his parents, and Mystique used her shapeshifting powers to temporarily become male so that she and her lover could conceive a child (something that would finally become comics canon years later, though [[VoodooShark not without raising more questions]] behind how the idea played out). The character of Azazel has stuck around and made several more well-received appearances (including in the film ''Film/XMenFirstClass''), but to this day no one defends his original story.
81	* {{Invoked}} by Yorick at least once in ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'', regarding the [[{{Gendercide}} sudden death of every man in the world]] besides himself and his pet monkey. There is an answer that's explained to the characters, but it's the "vaguely unsatisfying" one of the page quote (unsatisfying to both the readers and the characters) and the writers give it no more weight than any of the other explanations. Of the three reasons set up in the first issue (Yorick's ring, Dr. Mann's baby, and 355 with the Amulet of Helene), none of them really lasts the course. Says [[WordOfGod series writer Brian K. Vaughan]] on the subject:
82	-->''I feel that there is a definitive explanation, but I like that people don't necessarily know what it is. In interviews we always said that we would tell people exactly what caused the plague. The thing was, we never said when we were going to tell. We weren't going to tell you when we were telling you, I should say. We might have told you in issue #3. There might have been something in the background that only a couple people caught. It might have been Dr. Mann's father's very detailed, scientific explanation. It might have been Alter's off-the-wall conspiracy theory. The real answer is somewhere in those 60 issues, but I prefer to let the reader decide which one they like rather than pushing it on them.''
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86	* ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'': This trope is one reason why Bill Watterson decided to not explain what the infamous NoodleIncident was because he felt he couldn't come up with anything that would live up to the readers' expectations.
87	* The ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' comic strip story "The World Shapers" was written primarily to explain a mysterious NoodleIncident dialogue line in the TV story "The Invasion", in which the Cyberplanner refers to the Doctor and Jamie having once defeated the Cybermen on "Planet 14". In the process, it sought to give the Cybermen a new origin story by suggesting that they evolved from the Voord culture on the planet Marinus, which had previously been depicted in "The Keys of Marinus". Unfortunately, the story was widely reviled as over-complicated FanWank and ContinuityPorn (putting Jamie through a TraumaCongaLine and then killing him off didn't help).
88	* ''ComicStrip/{{Luann}}'': The August 2023 conclusion of the [=Gunther/Bets=] road trip saw Gunther return home without Bets. He blatantly lied to his mother and stepdad about the circumstances of his solo return (He and Bets were still good, but Bets decided to stay on the road), but confessed to [=roommate/step-cousin=] Leslie (He wanted to return to school, she didn't.) Not only did this not go down well with the fandom (mostly because it came off as a lazy rehash of Rosa's departure), but the Evanses advertised a [[https://form.jotform.com/232338709163054 tie-in novelization]] that filled in the whole story, the timing of which made it sound like the explanation would appear there, not in the strip. Further irritating readers was Gunther's dithering about the status of his and Bets' relationship (as several readers on both [=GoComics and ArcaMax=] observed: If you have to ask, no, you're not together anymore). It didn't help that it was yet another character of color PutOnABus (joining Delta and the aforementioned Rosa).\
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90	Also not helping was that this angle introduced a VoodooShark: Bets' whole identity was that she was an online influencer who reflexively live-blogged ''everything.'' Gunther's family should've been able to follow along with their adventures via social media. And even if she left out the break-up details, the sudden lack of updates (and subsequent lack of Gunther) should've alerted everyone that something was wrong.
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94	* A major point of contention concerning ''WesternAnimation/BambiII'' with fans of the original was its decision to humanise and develop the characterisations and backgrounds of many of the animal characters, since keeping the universe a vague enchanting caricature of nature driven more by ambiance and instinct was to many [[IntendedAudienceReaction the whole point of the first installment]]. The approach isn't universally despised, however, since this breach at least wasn't executed horribly and offered the film's universe broader more engaging personalities and lore ripe for FanficFuel.
95	* The origin of Cobra given in ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeTheMovie'', declaring them to be the current incarnation and footsoldiers of an ancient Himalayan snake cult called Cobra-La, with Cobra Commander being a full-on snake man under the helmet, was controversial to say the least, as it seemed far too out-there and weird even for a Saturday morning cartoon (the cartoon rarely acknowledged it after, to the point that some consider the film non-canon). Notably, Larry Hama, who wrote the comic, made it one of the few things he just point-blank ''refused'' to include in his version of the series, even giving Cobra Commander an origin that clearly contradicted the film.
96	* Most fans aren't fond of the backstory given to the titular weasel in ''WesternAnimation/TheIceAgeAdventuresOfBuckWild''. In ''[[WesternAnimation/IceAgeDawnOfTheDinosaurs Dawn Of The Dinosaurs]]'', Buck was established as a rare sentient mammal in a DeathWorld that had to took extreme meassures to be able to defeat Rudy which lead to him becoming the CrazySurvivalist we know and love. But in the spin-off, Buck is depicted as someone who was the leader of a group of heroic mammals that proved to be the last resistance in a FantasticRacism motivated-war, which hardly fits with how uncivilized the Lost World was shown to be in the previous movies and how Buck was portrayed as a loner before The Herd's arrival (which is why he went insane and started talking with inanimate objects).
97	* ''Westernanimation/{{Lightyear}}'' makes a new interpretation of the villain Zurg, [[spoiler:where he's actually an older version of Buzz all along. Along with contradicting plenty of the lore established in the ''Franchise/ToyStory'' films, this also makes Zurg less of an effective threat once you remove the mystery of who this creature is, along with some saying he’s neither evil nor an emperor.]]
98	* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooDirectToVideoFilmSeries'':
99	** After 34 years of being LeftHanging, ''[[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndTheCurseOfThe13thGhost The Curse of the 13th Ghost]]'' was meant to finally give a definitive conclusion to ''[[WesternAnimation/The13GhostsOfScoobyDoo The 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo]]'' only for the movie to pull a very controversial use of MaybeMagicMaybeMundane [[spoiler: which states the original series was nothing but a high-altitude hallucination and the titular 13th Ghost may only have being a cloud of dust]]. Even if one doesn't take Velma's explanation as granted, the fact that fans waited so long for a conclusion to the series only to get a ambiguous assumption that [[spoiler:nothing on the series really happened]] pissed off more that a few viewers who wonder what was the point of even trying to conclude the storyline if they weren't going to go all the way.
100	** From the same movie, fans were unimpressed with TheReveal of the reason of Fred's absence in ''WesternAnimation/The13GhostsOfScoobyDoo''. [[spoiler: He went to cheerleading camp]], Some fans noted there's no real reason why Fred would go in there nor why he would have any interest into it beyond [[spoiler: fitting with his arc in the movie of supporting Daphne as the leader of the Gang]] and it hasn't being mentioned or brought back since then.
101	** ''[[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooReturnToZombieIsland Return To Zombie Island]]'' decides to retcon the events of the original movie to explain why the characters are now back to being teenagers and why Daphne isn't hosting a TV show anymore (it's clumsily handwaved as having been a high school project). Many fans have called this out, pointing out the extreme improbability of teenagers getting a reality show that travels across the country, which in the original movie was stated to be going into its second season, and still have time to solve mysteries and get through school. It also seems unlikely that Shaggy would be employed as a customs officer and Velma would be owning and running a bookstore if they were high schoolers. Not to mention it would retroactively make Velma and Beau Neville's ShipTease [[{{Squick}} kind of creepy given he's clearly an adult]]. Many fans didn't even ''mind'' they were adults in that film and liked that the group had matured a little while not completely getting over their quirks (they weren't even ''that'' old, in their early 20s at least, and still mystery solving), stating the whole retcon was just a personal preference of the writers trying to harken back to the original series that makes little sense in this continuity.
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105	* The first ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' {{Prequel}} reveals that as a teenager, Chapman was a little {{Jerkass}} who [[TheQuisling sold out humanity to the Yeerks]] for no real logical reason. Up until this point, all we knew about the real Chapman was that he [[TakeMeInstead let himself be infested to save his daughter]] and [[HeroicWillpower could overpower his Yeerk]] [[PapaWolf to defend her]]. Given how trippy ''The Andalite Chronicles'' is (and the fact that traitor!Chapman [[UncertainDoom seemingly dies]] before mysteriously reappearing on Earth), some fans still stubbornly insist that "Hendrick Chapman" must have been VP Chapman's EvilTwin or something.
106	** [[DiabolusExMachina The One]] is a case of Fan-Disliked ''Lack of'' Explanation, since it shows up in the last few pages of the series with no context. People have suggested that it could be [[CosmicHorror Crayak]], the being that chased him out of his home galaxy, or whatever messed with Jake's head in book #41, but Creator/KAApplegate {{Jossed}} each theory without providing any other clues.
107	* Creator/HPLovecraft's Franchise/CthulhuMythos might well be unknown today if not for the championing and hard work of his friend and estate executor Creator/AugustDerleth... but Derleth's own additions to the Mythos are widely disliked. His quasi-FanFiction imposes an orderly conceptual symmetry on it, and deals in humanly recognizable categories of morality -- both of which are foreign to Lovecraft's conception, and tend to "domesticate" HPL's cosmic horrors into far duller and more traditional boogeymen.
108	* Though Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/TheDarkTower'' books always suffered from a pretty bad case of BrokenBase, [[Literature/TheDarkTower2004 the very end of the series]] -- where we finally get a detailed look at the interior of the eponymous tower -- was disliked by quite a few fans, who felt that it killed the mystery and enigma behind the Tower, which could otherwise be read as a universal stand-in for almost any unattainable desire. The narrator even warns the reader that he will probably find the epilogue unsatisfying, as it explains what Roland finds there. To elaborate: After seven books of searching for the Tower, [[spoiler:Roland finds out that every level of it is filled with relics from various stages of his own life, and that the top floor houses [[GroundhogDayLoop a time warp that erases his memories and sends him back to the beginning of his quest -- but with evidence that one of his greatest failures has been undone.]]]] Though some fans liked it, others accused it of being an unsatisfying and unnecessary MandatoryTwistEnding.
109	* Virtually everyone who watched ''Film/ForrestGump'' assumes that the virus [[TheDiseaseThatShallNotBeNamed doctors-cannot-identify]] that kills [[spoiler:Jenny]] at the end is AIDS. However, the author of the original novel, Winston Groom, revealed it was Hepatitis C in the sequel ''Gump and co.'' This is ignored by many fans because they feel the AIDS epidemic deserved to be referenced in the film's historical setting. It is also worth pointing that the film is an extremely loose adaptation of the first book anyway ([[spoiler:Jenny]] doesn't die in it, for one), with completely different tone and characterizations, and that Groom wrote the sequel in part as a TakeThat to the studio for mangling his book and also screwing him out of profit with UsefulNotes/HollywoodAccounting. It wasn't until 2019 when screenwriter Eric Roth confirmed that the movie version of the character did indeed die of AIDS.
110	* Isobelle Carmody's ''Literature/TheGathering'' is a young adult horror with a brilliantly foreboding sense of tension, paranoia, and discord running throughout the entire story, with the imagery of things in the shadows and the gruesome image of the abattoir and the sense that ''something'' very evil has poisoned the whole city and everyone in it by literally ''poisoning'' the earth and that only these kids can repair the damage. We know that something big and terrible is going to happen, and we've got everything, including the dark, dismal skies. So the ending [[spoiler:including the explanation of what happened to the last group of people who tried, and where the entire school shows up in the abattoir in warpaint, and we see the BigBad being rather...''less'' than imposing]], was a bit of a letdown.
111	* ''Literature/HarryPotter'':
112	** The notorious "wizards used to poo their pants" claim from the official Twitter account for ''Pottermore'', part of a larger statement meant to explain the existence of the castle plumbing. On top of [[VoodooShark raising hundreds of questions]], it was such a bizarre and disgusting claim that it became the prime example in the fanbase of why many supplementary statements regarding the series' lore are disregarded.
113	** The reveal via WordOfGod that Dumbledore is gay was divisive, but the explanation that [[spoiler: Dumbledore was once in love with Gellert Grindelwald, a dark wizard who could be considered Voldemort's precursor, and seemingly swore off romance for good after that relationship blew up in his face in both a literal and figurative sense]] was even more widely disliked for homophobic implications and [[BrokenAesop contradicting]] one of the [[LoveRedeems series themes]].
114	** Likewise, the reveal in the fifth book that while Lily's HeroicSacrifice to protect baby Harry from Voldemort and his followers used ThePowerOfLove, the charm required Harry to be sent to live with [[AbusiveParents the Dursleys]] because he needed to live with a blood relative of Lily's in order for the protections to actually work. The Dursleys do ''not'' love Harry in the slightest, and at best they just simply begrudged his existence, yet they're allowed to count under a spell forged by love solely because Petunia is the only person alive who shares DNA with both Lily and Harry. Meanwhile, living with a genuinely loving family like the Weasleys, his equally loving godfather Sirius, a Muggle family Harry wasn't biologically related to, or even being raised in the foster system (or just having [[TheArchmage Dumbledore]] provide whatever house Harry lives in with his own protective wards, which is an established thing he can do) would not protect Harry simply because none of those potential guardians are blood relatives. This struck many fans as a [[AssPull poorly-written plot convenience]] to justify Harry living with his horrible relatives for as long as possible. Moreover, [[BrokenAesop it broke one of the story's most prevalent lessons]] about [[FamilyOfChoice how you choose your own family]].
115	** The eventual reveal that Snape's motivation for everything was due to [[DoggedNiceGuy a one-sided crush on Lily]], [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic which the story thinks justifies his actions]]. While well received at the time it has become more controversial and to a lot of readers, this only served to make him more unlikable and painted most of his bad behavior in an even worse light.
116	** Hagrid's explanation in the first book that the reason wizards maintain secrecy is because "Muggles would want them to solve all their problems." Many fans consider such an explanation to be callous and self-centered, particularly in light of ''Film/FantasticBeastsTheCrimesOfGrindelwald'' showcasing that World War II and {{UsefulNotes/the Holocaust}} happened in-universe, indicating the "good guy" wizards could have intervened but instead chose to more or less turn a blind eye for no reason other than personal peace of mind. Moreover, the series' lore establishes that wizards have valid reason to be fearful of Muggles knowing how completely outclassed they are for technology and such, which some fans view as a far more reasonable explanation.
117	** Many fans disliked the final book's off-handed reveal that the SecretKeeper that anchors the Fidelius Charm could be within the place protected (read: rendered completely invisible and intangible) by the charm. Not only does this fact make the charm [[StoryBreakerPower extremely overpowered]], it reduces James and Lily Potter's decision to make the traitorous Peter Pettigrew the Secret Keeper for their cottage to [[RetroactiveIdiotBall sheer idiocy]].
118	* This is the usual reason people hated the last book in ''Literature/ThePendragonAdventure''. The whole existence of [[spoiler:Solara]] seemed to come from nowhere and some important questions (such as who Saint Dane [[spoiler:made his promise to]]) were never answered.
119	* Joan Lindsay's novel ''Literature/PicnicAtHangingRock'' made its readers produce thousands of guesses about what is behind the girls' disappearances -- from the whole thing being the work of a rapist/kidnapper to the headmistress molesting girls and driving them to suicide to the rock itself trapping them inside. After the author's death, the eighteenth chapter with the explanation was finally released. As it turned out, [[spoiler:[[MakesAsMuchSenseInContext the girls and teacher turned into lizards]] [[GainaxEnding and got sucked into a time warp.]]]] The fans felt that it was anticlimactic and nonsensical[[note]] it was noted by Lindsay's publisher that it came from a first draft, but it doesn't stop fans thinking it was written by the publishers to sell more [[/note]]. Even Peter Weir, the director of TheFilmOfTheBook, has admitted that he knew of the deleted chapter but Lindsay's refusal to show it to him was probably a blessing.
120	* ''[[Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs Hannibal Rising]]'' explains that Hannibal's cannibalistic habits are the result of [[spoiler:realizing the soup he'd been served by a set of soldiers contained the remains of his little sister]], among other details that spoil the mystery of where Hannibal came from and how he became what he is. Harris claims that he never wanted to write a prequel, but was told by his publishers that, if he didn't, they'd find someone else to write it for him.
121	* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has "Who sent the assassin to kill Bran Stark?", with the answer seemingly being [[spoiler:Prince Joffrey]]. Two characters independently come to the conclusion that [[spoiler:Joffrey]] did it, [[spoiler:Joffrey]] acts suspiciously when probed about the matter, and the author stated that the mystery was solved in that book. However, him being the culprit requires a ''very'' specific motivation, most of the "clues" occur right before the reveal two books after the mystery was last relevant and/or refer to events that happened off-page ("You remember that time at breakfast when King Robert said...."), leading to a conclusion that many fans found unsatisfactory. As a result, many fans still believe that the explanation was mistaken and the ''true'' person who hired the assassin has still not been revealed.
122	* ''Literature/TheTwilightSaga'': A few of Creator/StephenieMeyer's attempts to explain things in the series weren't appreciated by some readers, mostly because they tended to [[VoodooShark open up a whole new can of worms]] in regards to the logistics of the world. [[FanPreferredCouple Team Jacob]] especially did not like the explanation that he apparently only loved Bella because he was subconsciously waiting for Renesmee, as they felt it cheapened the bond between their OTP, essentially made the love triangle that had dominated much of the series pointless, and/or because it had weird implications that Jacob had somehow imprinted on [[spoiler:Bella's ''ovum'']].
123	* ''Literature/WarriorCats'':
124	** Fans wondered why Thistleclaw ended up in [[{{Hell}} the Dark Forest]] because while he was an aggressive WarHawk, he didn't commit any crimes in his life - and even the ''attempted murderer'' Ashfur made it to [[{{Heaven}} StarClan]]. Enter the novella ''[[Recap/WarriorCatsSpottedleafsHeart Spottedleaf's Heart]]'', where he essentially became a pedophile grooming Spottedpaw while also training in the Dark Forest. This made the novella one of the most unpopular works in the entire lengthy series, as most felt that the subject matter wasn't handled well.
125	** While it is [[DependingOnTheWriter not settled in stone]] by WordOfGod [[note]]: One of the authors (Kate Cary) leaves it open for fans to decide for themselves, and another author, (Victoria Holmes), says they do. [[/note]] the idea that [=StarClan=] cats [[spoiler: eventually cease existing when forgotten by all living cats is heavily disliked by fans.]] One of the alternate ideas proposed, [[spoiler: that once forgotten by all living cats, they become like a faint star and spend the rest of eternity alone, albeit in a pleasant state of rest and peace, is also disliked by fans. Most fans would prefer they just get a regular, eternal afterlife instead of making things needlessly depressing.]]
126	* ''Literature/TheWickedYears'': Many fans dislike that the family tree in ''Literature/ALionAmongMen'' lists Nessarose as Frexspar's child. In the original ''Literature/{{Wicked}}'' book, it's vague whether [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe Nessarose was the daughter of Melena's husband Frexspar or their mutual lover Turtle Heart]]. Nessarose has pale skin like Frex (then again, [[spoiler:Nessa's sister Elphaba also had a dark-skinned lover but her son was light-skinned]]) but the time of her conception makes more sense for Turtle Heart. The first book also mentions that Frexspar favors Nessa so much because he sees her as his, Melena, and Turtle Heart's child. Fans prefer that all three Thropp children are half-siblings, rather than Elphaba being the ChocolateBaby.
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130	* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'':
131	** The fact that Bohrok are actually dead Av-Matoran, as it retroactively made the earlier story unsettling (Matoran fighting against creatures born out of their deceased relatives, often with battle machines ''built out of'' Bohrok parts) and was just creepy. The revelation also comes out of nowhere.
132	** The reason why Orde is male and the rest of his kind are female: his creators were sexist. Also controversial because allegedly Orde's gender was set in stone by a mere typo.
133	** Most fans seemed to have accepted Mata Nui's nature well enough (giant sleeping robot), but his backstory and its timeline (who built him and why) are more cases of a BrokenBase, as, from a logical and logistic standpoint, they make no sense, and also retroactively demystify most of the fantasy-aspects of the story in favor of very soft sci-fi.
134	* ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'':
135	** You'll be hard-pressed to find a fan of ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' who thinks that Season 3's revelation of [[OmnicidalManiac Unicron]] -- the planet-eating-planet/Giant robot and SatanicArchetype of the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' mythos -- being created by [[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/30/Primacron.jpg this silly-looking alien monkey thing]] named Primacron was a good idea.[[labelnote:note]][[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Controverse One manga made years later]] would attribute the Quintessons as another creation of his, which fans aren't too keen on either.[[/labelnote]] Hasbro seems to agree, as all later depictions of Unicron ignore Primacron in favour of the Primus/Unicron myth used in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersMarvel the Marvel comic]].
136	** To a lesser extent, most fans tend to brush off the explanation that Quintessons created Transformers in favor of Primus as creator.
137	** Quite a few fans of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' along with the rest of the [[Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse Aligned universe]], don't like the identity of the unnamed Thirteenth Prime as given in ''Literature/TransformersTheCovenantOfPrimus'', who turned out to be [[spoiler:Optimus Prime]]. The general dislike toward it boils down to [[spoiler:undermining the feeling that he got where he did due to the hardships he faced and that he was basically destined to lead the Autobots instead]].
138	** Later Japanese material would establish ''[[Anime/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Transformers: Car Robots]]'' within the [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Japanese Generation 1 timeline]], taking place between Season 2 and [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie the Movie]] with Fire Convoy's team and the Destrongers coming from the future era of ''Anime/BeastWarsII'' and ''Anime/BeastWarsNeo''. Though [[AllThereInTheManual pre-release material]] had treated ''Car Robots'' as part of the ''[=G1=]'' timeline, this was only vaguely alluded to in the show proper, which otherwise seemed like a ContinuityReboot. Indeed, the English dub, ''[[MarketBasedTitle Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' is very much a reboot, with zero ties to the English [=G1=] continuities outside of a handful of characters showing up in future media.
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142	* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
143	** The remake-exclusive bonus case of the first game decided to put to rest the rumors that Miles Edgeworth would sometimes fake evidence in order to ensure a guilty verdict by revealing that [[spoiler:they were nothing but nasty rumors and that he ''never'' faked evidence, only presented evidence he didn't know was forged once]]. A number of fans didn't like this reveal due to the fact that it renders a lot of Edgeworth's CharacterDevelopment in the game moot.
144	** Ever since his debut Apollo Justice's upbringing had been shrouded in mystery. All that was certain was Apollo was put into an orphanage after the death of his biological father. ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice'' felt the need to answer it by revealing that [[spoiler:when his father got killed in an arson attack (and his mother Thalassa being unaware of his survival), Apollo was found and raised by Dhurke Sahdmadhi. Because Dhurke was falsely accused of murdering his wife the Queen of Khura'in, he had to send Apollo to America for his safety, and he had two foster siblings never mentioned prior]]. This revelation proved to be controversial for fans as it gave Apollo sudden importance in the game when Phoenix had clearly been the protagonist for the first half and appeared to contradict the little we '''did''' know about Apollo's past prior, making him unrecognizable from the character presented in previous games.
145	* While the third case and trial in ''VisualNovel/Danganronpa2GoodbyeDespair'' is hated by the fandom for a number of reasons, some fans didn't like [[spoiler: Mikan Tsumiki's motive being the Despair Disease, which they saw as a pointless plot device, although it did hint at the true nature of the students. Given that one of Mikan's victims was Hiyoko Saionji, who notoriously bullied her, some say it would've been better if Mikan snapped from Hiyoko's treatment of her and that's what led her to murder (although this would then raise questions on why she also killed Ibuki Mioda).]]
146	* A number of players of ''VisualNovel/DaughterForDessert'' didn’t like the protagonist's backstory regarding his relationship with Lainie.
147	* ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'':
148	** The ending of ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'' has the series' antagonist claim that [[spoiler:all of his actions have actually been to prepare the protagonists to track down and stop a GreaterScopeVillain who has never been even hinted at before]]. The characters don't necessarily buy his [[spoiler:good intentions]], but it seems as though everything that ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'' built up about [[spoiler:Brother and Left]] is made irrelevant by this last-minute new characterization.
149	*** Fans also dislike the twist with [[spoiler:the alien teleporter]] because of the implications that the entire series had its problem rooted in [[spoiler:aliens that weren't even mentioned in previous games]].
150	** Among other plot points from ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward'' that did not return in ''ZTD'', there was a conspicuous lack of any follow-up on the secret ending of ''VLR''. The creator eventually clarified that that ending was not canon because it took place on a higher layer of reality [[note]]It was created long after the game was completed but was added in because he was inspired by the Tohoku earthquake and wanted to leave a message of hope; this was also why this particular scene was not voiced in Japanese[[/note]] and that when important character Kyle was heavily implied to appear in ''ZTD'', what it actually meant was that Kyle would appear in our reality in the year ''ZTD'' takes place. As you can probably guess from that description, this was not taken well.
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154	* After several issues, ''Other M'' revealed the reason why the {{Alternate Universe}}'s [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Knuckles]] was the way he is, [[LoveMakesYouEvil his love for Sally]]. Many fans ''hated'' the idea that Knuckles was the BigBad, and this explanation did them no favors.
155	* The ''Franchise/StarWars'' midi-chlorian explanation for the origin of the Force is [[ConversationalTroping conversed]] in ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'' in order to {{lampshade\|Hanging}} Dan's own [[http://www.egscomics.com/?date=2010-04-26 plugging of a plothole]] no one had questioned and thus preempt this in his own fans.
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159	* ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'':
160	** "Spring Broken" revealed Blitzo adopted Loona when she was seventeen, displeasing fans who assumed he adopted her as a child which they felt was a stronger setup for their relationship and offers a much more nuanced look into Loona's mixed feelings about her adopted father.
161	** "OZZIE'S" reveals that Moxxie and Millie are in their first year of marriage, which many viewed as less compelling than them being so in love despite being many years past their "honeymoon phase".
162	** "The Circus" revealing Stella was [[EnfantTerrible evil since childhood]] and [[DomesticAbuse nothing but abusive of Stolas]] long before his [[SympatheticAdulterer resulting infidelity]] had detractors feel it was trying too hard to excuse Stolas's wrongdoings and negated the moral grayness/ambiguity that made it compelling. It also became part of the series growing criticism of shafting female characters, reducing Stella to a one-dimensional HateSink deprived of any depth or agency beyond propping up male characters' conflicts.
163	* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': During Volume 8, the writers announced what General Ironwood's Semblance was: Mettle, which they explained hardens his resolve and causes him to hyper-focus when solving problems. Presumably, they intended this as an explanation as to why Ironwood is always so fixated on ''his'' solution to a problem and his refusal to consider alternatives. Many fans' reactions went along the lines of: "So his Semblance is he's stubborn? That's not a superpower, that's a personality trait." Further, many feel that Ironwood's actions are adequately explained by him simply being stubborn and bullheaded and that this Semblance takes away some of Ironwood's agency in his own decisions. Not to mention it's never mentioned nor hinted at in the show itself, so fans have questioned why there's any kind of narrative need for this explanation in the first place.
164	* ''[[WebAnimation/Supermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers SMG4]]'': "[=SMG4=]'s Origins" as a whole got this reaction, partially due to heavily {{Retcon}}ing much of the series lore and partially for providing explanations for aspects of the series many fans had simply taken for granted, thus taking away their novelty. [[spoiler:The [=SMG4=] Universe is explicitly confirmed to be an AlternateUniverse branching off from the end of ''VideoGame/SuperMario64''. [=SMG4=] and [=SMG3=] are revealed to be [[AmbiguouslyHuman alien-like invaders]] that arrived in USB flash drive-like spaceships (with the former's spaceship being the reason why everyone, most tragically of all Mario, is much crazier and dumber than their canon counterparts) and just happen to look like Mario. Finally, [=SMG4=] and [=SMG3=] meet here instead of "[=smg4=] VS [=smg3=]" (or even "Memewarts", which was already a retcon itself), with the duo simply [[HateAtFirstSight instantly hating each other]] when the latter arrives in his spaceship]]. While the 10th-anniversary movie helped clear things up and elaborate on the more confusing bits of this new backstory, it was nonetheless still criticized for the major retcons to the cast's preexisting ([[MultipleChoicePast and already conflicting]]) backstories, most egregiously the ''very preceding episode's'' set of backstories (which were also criticized for similar reasons).
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168	* ''The Review Must Go On'', the final episode of ''WebVideo/DemoReel'' and a pilot for the revival of ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'', revealed that Donnie Dupre and the Critic [[spoiler:are the same person. The events from the former were a purgatory experience he had after he merged with the PlotHole in ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'', partially because of a paradox wherein he willing did something he was written to do, partially to learn how it felt to make bad movies. The video ends with him returning to his reality while his friends from ''Demo Reel'' fade away.]] While some fans were okay with this, and WordOfGod is that it was intended as a DownerEnding, others hated it, feeling that it [[ShaggyDogStory invalidated]] the entire storyline of ''Demo Reel'' and The Critic's HeroicSacrifice (if not his entire character arc) from ''To Boldly Flee'', just to bring back ''The Nostalgia Critic'' after creator Creator/DougWalker explicitly stated that he wouldn't.
169	* When the ''WebVideo/GameGrumps'' play ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker'', Danny is ''not'' happy about how The King of Red Lions [[spoiler:isn't actually a living boat, but just an avatar of the King of Hyrule. He had come to love the idea that a boat could be enchanted and sentient and how it and Link had become allies on their journey, and felt that all of that was lost with the reveal that the boat was nothing more than a puppet controlled by someone else.]]
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