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7	->''"So you don't believe in dragons?''\
8	''It is curiously true''\
9	''That the dragons you disparage''
10	->''Choose not to believe in you."''
11	-->-- '''Jack Prelutsky''', ''The Dragons Are Singing Tonight''
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13	Two races, or tribes, were familiar with each other's existence a long time ago but they have gone ages without contact with each other, and now each believes the other to be creatures of legend, that either never existed or died out long ago.
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15	Until they meet each other. And they both react exactly the same way: by saying something along the lines of "They do exist!" in a tone of awe. At the same time. (Or at least one directly after the other.)
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17	Compare MutuallyFictional, where the two sides really did originate as (or still are) only stories to each other. Also compare FantasticFantasyIsMundane, where creatures in another world make up stories about a world like ours.
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20	!!Examples:
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24	* The Russian advertisements for ''Hochland'' cheese:
25	-->'''Son:''' Dad, do aliens exist?\
26	'''Father:''' No, son, it's fiction!\
27	''[Cut to an alien planet]''\
28	'''Alien son:''' Dad, do humans exist?\
29	'''Alien father:''' No, son, it's fiction!
30	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVIGIWeTT_8 One classic Christmas ad]] for Advertising/MAndMs had Yellow checking to see whether SantaClaus had arrived, while Red obviously thought this was a waste of time. However, they run into Santa at their tree, and...
31	-->'''Red:''' AAHH! He ''does'' exist!\
32	'''Santa:''' They ''do'' exist...\
33	''[They both faint]''
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37	* ''Manga/WelcomeToDemonSchoolIrumaKun'': Suzuki Iruma had a terrible life and terrible parents who sold him to a demon, but the demon adopts him and gives him a much better life than when he was on the human world. It’s stated up front that demons eat humans (which is why Iruma needs to keep his species secret at all cost,) and the school anthem is a song about how humans are just food for demons- but then, it's revealed that the young demons had never eaten a human, never even saw a human and suspect they are a myth. On the other hand, several high-ranking adult demons are fully aware of their existence and may be involved with keeping them a secret.
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41	* ''ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew'': In MediaNotes/{{the Bronze Age\|OfComicBooks}}, it was revealed that [[Creator/DCComics DC's]] [[MediaNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] FunnyAnimal comics characters all live on Earth-C (for "cartoon"). The most famous inhabitants are Captain Carrot and his Amazing Zoo Crew. There, humans are considered mythical monsters. A wolf who is cursed to transform into a human is called a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Wuzwolf.]]
42	* ''Franchise/TheLittleMermaid'': In one comic Ariel accidentally comes across a city where moray (eel-people) live. Moray were deemed fictional by merpeople. In turn, moray thought merpeople were a myth. Moray are afraid of merpeople. The moray princess decides to keep Ariel as a pet, then ransoms her when she learns that Ariel and her sister Aquata are princesses. Moray are depicted as the EvilCounterpart to merpeople.
43	* ''Mystic'': One story in the anthology series had a little boy on the hunt for elves to grant his wishes. After being scolded by his mom, he leaves behind a basket of stones he gathered hoping to get them turned into gold. After he leaves, [[MissedHimByThatMuch some elves arrive]] and comment on the "giant's basket". They're scolded by an elder elf that giants don't exist, to their disappointment, because they'd like to use their magic to grant the wish of some human instead of their own for once.
44	* ''ComicBook/XMen'': Done jokingly. While in Banshee's ancestral home, the X-Men run into leprechauns. When ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} expresses his disbelief in leprechauns, one of them retorts "Well maybe I don't believe in talkin' wolverines!"
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48	* ''Fanfic/MeetingOfMinds'': Rumble initially thinks he's dreaming when he encounters the Yeerks and their leader Visser Three, as sluglike {{Puppeteer Parasite}}s and the vaguely deerlike Andalite that the Visser's using as a host are beyond his experience. Likewise, Ifrit 259 the Yeerk is incredulous when Rumble says he's a sentient {{Mechanical Lifeform\|s}} because their Empire is convinced that "(n)o robot can think for itself or have a personality".
49	-->'''Rumble:''' Two hours ago, pal, I didn't believe in a lake of brain-parasitic slugs being led by a Disney acid trip, and you didn't believe in giant robotic life forms that could actually think for themselves.
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53	* In ''WesternAnimation/FernGullyTheLastRainforest'', humans have been away for so long that the fairies only remember them through legends and folk tales, resulting in most fairies not even believing in humans until of course [[GreenAesop a logging company arrives in the area]].
54	* The premise of ''WesternAnimation/{{Smallfoot}}'' is that [[BigfootSasquatchAndYeti yetis]] don't believe in humans, considering them a mythical monster they call "smallfoot". Naturally, Hilarity ensues when the one yeti who ''does'' believe actually catches a glimpse of a human on the mountain and heads down to the lowlands to prove they exist. [[spoiler:Justified; the eldest of the village, the Stonekeeper, knows that there were hostile encounters between humans and yeti in the past, so he has shaped their entire culture to keep them hidden from humanity due to his belief that HumansAreTheRealMonsters.]]
55	* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerryBlastOffToMars'': The Martians had a long-standing belief that their neighboring world of Earth didn't support any intelligent life at all.
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59	* Referenced and inverted in ''Film/TheMuppetMovie'', in the Electric Mayhem's song "Can You Picture That":
60	-->''Fact is there's nothing out there you can't do,''\
61	''Yeah, even Santa Claus believes in you!''
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65	* ''Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland'': One of the [[UrExample earliest examples]] of this trope occurs in ''Through the Looking-Glass''. In the Sixth Square, Alice meets the Unicorn (of the nursery rhyme "The Lion and the Unicorn"), and they are shocked at each other's existence:
66	-->'''The Unicorn:''' What is ''this?''\
67	'''Haigha:''' This is a Child! We only found it today. It's as large as life, and twice as natural!\
68	'''Unicorn:''' I always thought that they were fabulous monsters...\
69	'''Alice:''' Do you know, I always thought that ''Unicorns'' were fabulous monsters, too! I never saw one alive before!\
70	'''Unicorn:''' Well, now that we ''have'' seen each other, if you'll believe in me, ''I'll'' believe in ''you.'' Is that a bargain?\
71	'''Alice:''' Yes, if you like.
72	* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'':
73	** In ''Literature/TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'', Tumnus the faun reacts this way to Lucy the first time he meets her, and owns a book called ''Is Man a Myth?'' A rather justified example, since the few humans in Narnia at its creation had been crossbred into oblivion with the other races within the first few generations, a thousand years before his time.
74	** In ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'', thanks to NarniaTime elapsing, the Pevensies themselves are considered rather like King Arthur: rulers from the legendary past golden age, possibly mythical.
75	** Narnia is on a FlatWorld. In ''Literature/TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader'', Caspian is shocked to learn that the Pevensies come from a round planet (with "parts where people walk about upside-down") and never bothered to tell him before.
76	* {{Downplayed\|Trope}} in ''Literature/TheDaySantaStoppedBelievingInHarold''. Santa is a human himself, but he has magic, which Harold has his doubts about, and he doesn't disbelieve in all humans, just Harold. Even then, he ''used'' to believe in Harold, but stopped, hence the title. Jack Frost's parents and the Abominable Snow Monster also don't believe in Harold, though it's unknown if they believe in other humans.
77	* Subverted in Louise Searl's short story ''The Dragon's Claw'' from ''Literature/TheDreamEatersAndOtherStories''. Four teenagers are transported to a world of mythical creatures, which can no longer exist in our world because we don't believe in them any more. The kids are told that if the dragons and other creatures stopped believing in ''them'', they wouldn't be able to exist in the mythical world either.
78	* In ''Literature/FarmerGilesOfHam'', younger dragons seem to think that the Knights are just a myth. The older ones know better, although they admit that they are few and far, and not a danger anymore. Which is true. The King and his Knights are pretty useless. The only person who can effectively deal with the Dragon is a fat, red-headed farmer who doesn't like trespassers--even if they are scaly and breathe fire.
79	* ''Literature/{{Impossible Creatures\|2023}}'': Most people from the magical Archipelago believe that some things from the outside world, such as panthers and King Henry VIII, are just myths.
80	* ''Literature/TheMonsterBed'': When her son panics about the possibility of humans crawling under his bed, Dennis' mother tells him that humans are fictional creatures. At the end, the narrator tells the reader to avoid the Withering Wood, or they might meet Dennis' mother, who would tell them they don't exist.
81	%% * ''The Dragon with the Girl Tattoo'', a spoof of ''[[Literature/MillenniumSeries The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo]]''.
82	* ''Literature/TheDivideTrilogy'' by Elizabeth Kay has a fantasy world where all kinds of creatures from our myths live. They not only think humans are mythical, but also many animals from our world as well.
83	* Literature/{{Xanth}} has humans (although if they didn't get fresh blood from Mundania they'd eventually change into magical creatures), but all of their animals are magical. As such, they think of a horse as a wingless pegasus,[[note]]Centaurs accept that horses did exist as a legitimate creature in Xanth at one point, due to their culture remembering their origin: several men, several mares, and a Love Spring...[[/note]] a lion as something with a griffin's body and a chimera's head, etc.
84	* An early portion of ''Literature/TheMartianChronicles'' has a Martian parent talking to a child, assuring it that there can't be any life on Earth, because of the excessive amounts of oxygen.
85	* In one of the ''Literature/GarrettPI'' novels, the protagonist muses that certain creatures of legend ''don't'' exist in his FantasyKitchenSink world, being allegorical fictions rather than genuine beings. These include fire-breathing dragons, gryphons, and ''ostriches''.
86	* In Creator/StanislawLem's ''Fables for Robots'', most robots either believe that humans (palefaces) don't exist or that they are long extinct. Every time they meet biological lifeforms, they are disgusted by them.
87	* ''Literature/ThreeHeartsAndThreeLions'': the main protagonist is a real-world Dane from World War II who gets transported in a fantasy world where the characters of the Matter of France are historical characters, but where some figures like Julius Caesar and Emperor Napoleon are legendary.
88	* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'':
89	** The dwarven grags in ''Literature/{{Thud}}'' (who are mostly extremist deep-downers, or "those who do not get out in the fresh air enough") are said to believe humans to be a kind of bad dream. This puts them at odds with the rest of the dwarfs, who are quite willing to deal with humans, to the point that a brief civil war erupts during the events of ''Literature/RaisingSteam''.
90	** The speech Sir Terry wrote for Lord Vetinari (Stephen Briggs) for the twinning ceremony between Wincanton and Ankh-Morpork had the Patrician explain that a lot of effort had gone into convincing Ankh-Morporkians that there really was a place called Wincanton and it wasn't just made up.
91	* ''Literature/MagnusChaseAndTheGodsOfAsgard'' is based on Myth/NorseMythology, but in modern times Alfheim and Nidavellir (worlds inhabited by elves and dwarfs respectively), the [[TheMagicGoesAway magic has gone away]], and humans are seen as mythical creatures confined to fairytales and TV shows.
92	* Shown from the opposite perspective in the ''Literature/NomesTrilogy''. Having established from the first book that the Store nomes have a religion based around Arnold Bros. (est. 1905), who created the Store for them to live in, the third book has them make contact with the grandson of one of the Arnold brothers. Who is amazed, but immediately asks if they're like the little people his grandfather used to tell him about, who lived in the walls of the old department store. Maskin later tells Gurder the priest "You know how you believed in Arnold Bros. (est. 1905)? Well, he believed in you too! How about that?" (The Store nomes know that humans exist, they just have a hard time getting their heads round the idea that Arnold Bros. (est. 1905) was one.)
93	* In ''Literature/TheVazulaChronicles'', Merletta the mermaid has grown up believing humans are mythical creatures. She's shocked when she discovers the island of Vazula and sees Heath walking around next to the lagoon.
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97	* Before meeting each other, the Franchise/PowerRangers (''[[Series/PowerRangersInSpace In Space]]'') and Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles ([[Series/NinjaTurtlesTheNextMutation "Next Mutation" version]]) each thought the other was an urban legend. Which, as Linkara's ''WebVideo/HistoryOfPowerRangers'' pointed out, is somewhat headscratching, as the Rangers have been well-known public figures for quite some time, to the point that they have been on TV, and there are towns with ''Monster Attack Preparedness Drills.''
98	* The ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever The City on the Edge of Forever]]" has 1930s philanthropist Edith Keeler understandably skeptical of Leonard [=McCoy's=] claims to be a time-traveling doctor from a star ship in the 23rd century. Bones, still in recovery from overdosing on a psychoactive drug, likewise dismisses her as some kind of hallucination he must be having.
99	* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'': This is played with in "[[Recap/TheOuterLimits1995S4E21PromisedLand Promised Land]]". Dlavan has always told his daughter Krenn and his grandsons Ma'al and T'sha that all the humans on Earth are dead. However, it turns out that Dlavan knew from his great-grandparents that some of them were still alive in a concentration camp overseen by androids in spite of the fact that most of their people, the Tsal-Khan, left Earth 100 years earlier.
100	* A humorous and "realistic" example occurs in ''Series/{{Roseanne}}''. Dan comes to pick D.J. up from school after he gets in trouble...and it turns out that, since Roseanne is usually the one who handles all of the kids' problems, the entire faculty just thought Dan was ''dead.'' D.J. [[BrattyHalfPint doesn't help]] by pretending that he doesn't know who Dan is. ("How do you know my name?")
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104	* Humans are so rare in the world of ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonGatesToInfinity'' that the Pokémon living there believe that humans are only found in fairy tales. That is, until the human protagonist arrives in a form of a Pokémon like in past ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' games.
105	* The Mechanimals in ''VideoGame/TheDayTheWorldBroke'' only knew about humans within myths and legends, and despite knowing their language, were never aware that anything existed outside their home territory, let alone humans. The only human who ever lived with them was [[spoiler: Ozzie Jr., circa 65 million years prior. Having [[GoneHorriblyWrong accidentally caused all the prehistoric life forms to be sucked into the World Machine's core]] during the Great Tune Up, he fled there and fed them food with mechanical parts mixed in, that caused them to evolve into how they are now, up until he died in the magma cavern. By the time the newer breed of Mechanimals dug up his body, nobody but [[BigBad Diode]] suspected it was really a human.]] And then you come along when the entire world machinery above goes on the fritz.
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109	* Referenced in ''Webcomic/CollegeRoomiesFromHell'' when Roger meets two centaurs who think humans are mythical creatures. However, they're actually genetically engineered creatures who have been given this belief (and a steady diet of drugs) by the EvilGenius in question to avoid them questioning their surroundings.
110	* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'', Wooster tells Agatha that the reason the multiple [[UndergroundCity underground societies]] beneath Paris are considered a "secret", even though everyone who matters knows they exist, is that everyone ''else'' simply refuse to believe in them. As they talk, they pass an intelligent carnosaur, who snorts "What?! ''More'' of you costumed frauds? How far will the papers ''go'' to spread their bogus stories of a 'surface civilisation'?"
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114	* Put in a blender with MaybeMagicMaybeMundane and taken to the other side in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPVC-WhCoHs "Imaginary Friend,"]] where the crux turns out to be after the sprightly, eccentric Lily producing a homemade bomb and the hovering cartoon cat Mr. Tibbles freaking out over what she plans to do with it over parties who thought their friendship was ''imaginary,'' the protagonist's parents are heard asking if their kid is talking to that imaginary friend again, [[spoiler:revealing the rest of the cast are ''other'' multicolored fairy animals and Mr. Tibbles is apparently off his meds; taking them, Lily vwips out of existence. (...until, "I'm back!" startles him into dropping the bomb.)]]
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118	* Pops up at the end of the sleepover episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius''. The climax of the episode features [[DreamWithinADream a series of]] increasingly nonsensical {{Catapult Nightmare}}s involving the various characters and a flying vampiric pizza. The final nightmare turns out to belong to an actual vampire pizza, sleeping in his pizza box; when he explains his terrible dream to his wife, she consoles him that children don't exist, and everyone knows that.
119	* ''WesternAnimation/DinosaurTrain'':
120	** At the start of "Paulie Pliosaurus", Buddy says he used to think there was nothing under the ocean but water. Later, Paulie ''Pliosaurus'' says he thought there was nothing above the ocean except the sky.
121	** "Back in Time" begins with Tiny thinking that there was nothing before the Triassic. The Conductor tells her and Buddy that there were billions of years before dinosaurs. They visit the Permian and meet a ''Dimetrodon'', who thought the Mesozoic was just a myth.
122	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaijudo}}'': The creatures didn't believe humans were real before meeting them.
123	* ''WesternAnimation/DragonTales'': Before meeting Emmy and Max, Ord and Cassie had only seen kids in fairy tales.
124	--> '''Emmy''': You talk! \
125	'''Cassie''': So do you!
126	** Later, Spike didn't know what Emmy and Max were until Cassie told him they're children.
127	* In the first episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfTeddyRuxpin'', [[AbsentMindedProfessor Gimmick]] crashes his airship into the tree of Leota the Woodsprite. When she introduces herself, Gimmick says there's no such things as "woodsprites", she quips back that there's no such thing as big bags of air stuck in her tree, yet there it, big as life.
128	* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'' Bunga believes that Besthe's new okapi friend is imaginary because he sounds like a MixAndMatchCreature. When he turns out to be a NotSoImaginaryFriend and meets Bunga, the okapi says he didn't believe honey badgers really existed, because their smell and looks sounded outlandish.
129	* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/CampLazlo'', Raj is mistaken for a yeti, then at the end, it cuts to two yetis with one admonishing the other for being scared because he heard the Squirrel Scouts' yelling, telling him that campers are a myth.
130	* In an episode of ''WesternAnimation/DuckTales2017'', the kids go on a search for a species of underground creatures called the Terra-Firmians. When they finally meet some near the end, the Terra-Firmians are implied to have been engaging in a similar search for the ducks.
131	* Parodied in "Moon Problems" from ''WesternAnimation/SummerCampIsland''. A talking ice cream sandwich sees a mermaid and says "Mermaids are real?". One of the mermaids looks equally astonished and says "Woah, ice cream sandwiches are real!".
132	* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': In "My Way or the Highway to Heaven", God doesn't believe atheists exist.
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