| 1 | ->''"Sounds like they're having a spat. One of those 'differences in musical direction' bands are always splitting up over."'' |
| 2 | -->-- '''Trucy Wright''' on The Gavinners, ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' |
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| 4 | Creative or artistic differences are often cited by publicists or media companies as the public reason for a performer's decision to leave a TV series or musical group. |
| 5 | |
| 6 | * TV usage: "Bob Smith left the cast of ''Murder on Trope Street'' this season over creative differences with the production team." |
| 7 | * Music usage: "Bassist Alice Jones left ''Troperhead'' due to artistic differences with the band." |
| 8 | |
| 9 | When they actually mean it, it refers to irreconcilably different artistic visions for the show or band. If they're telling the truth, maybe the [[ExecutiveMeddling new director or producer was pushing the show or band too far]] in what the performer felt was the wrong direction. Maybe the director wanted more sex and violence on the show to boost ratings, or conversely wanted to remove/tone down the sex and violence to appeal to a broader market. For bands, maybe the bandleader or producer was trying to get the band to tag along with a new musical trend or fad.[[note]]Like in the early 1990s when record producers pressured every band on their roster to get flannel shirts, stop washing their hair, and adopt a Nirvana-esque {{grunge}} sound.[[/note]] |
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| 11 | But nine times out of ten, it ''really'' means the person quit or got fired due to personal clashes or misconduct [[note]]Sexual |
| 12 | misconduct, drug addiction, arrest, etc[[/note]] and the PR team is trying their best to sugarcoat it for the media. At least, until the tell-all book comes out, or the social media blowup occurs. |
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| 14 | Also, anytime someone mentions "scheduling conflicts," it likely means there's been a conflict between the actor or director and producers or studio. Then the actor/director quits or is fired. If there's only one constant member and a steady flow of departures and inductions, this is usually an indication of a PrimaDonnaDirector at the very least and is also usually a sign that the lone holdout is a [[ThePrimaDonna total diva who doesn't know how to share the spotlight]]. If the reverse is true and one person gets fired from everything they're involved in (or quits under contentious circumstances), odds are that they're a complete pain to work with and wear out their welcome in short order. |
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| 16 | A frequent joke that's made by observers in this situation is that the creative differences were simple: Either "She/he was creative, the [producers/rest of the band] weren't." or "[They] wanted to be creative, She/he wanted to be different.", depending on who is felt to be the more talented party. |
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| 18 | A common factor behind {{Revolving Door Band}}s. See also HostilityOnTheSet. |
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| 21 | !!Examples: |
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| 24 | |
| 25 | [[folder:Anime and Manga]] |
| 26 | * ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'': |
| 27 | ** The two head writers for this series Genki Yoshimura and Atsushi Maekawa had two very different styles of writing, Maekawa's being story driven light-hearted stories, and Yoshimura's being character driven darker stories, both were told to write in their own preferred styles. This lead to them not seeing eye to eye on how the story should go, which resulted in a lot of fillers, to cover up for the time where they couldn't come to an agreement. |
| 28 | ** Meanwhile, the head writer for ''Adventure'', Satoru Nishizono, left the Digimon project because he didn't want for a sequel to his series to be made. |
| 29 | ** Much of the main staff including Creator/ChiakiKonaka couldn't stand the executive meddling anymore, and so were ready to break their contracts and leave the project, but Bandai, unwilling to let them do this, gave them [[Anime/DigimonTamers their own series]], to mess around with instead. |
| 30 | * ''Anime/DigimonAdventureLastEvolutionKizuna'' brought in Hiroyuki Kakudou (director of ''Adventure'' and ''02'') as a creative and lore consultant, but he left the project [[https://www.reddit.com/r/digimon/comments/exof4l/spoiler_links_discussion_digimon_adventure_last/fggwhzv/ over the film's premise]], which went directly against one of the rules he'd established for that continuity; that being anyone can have a Digimon, regardless of age. |
| 31 | * The 2001 anime adaptation of ''Manga/FruitsBasket'', produced by Creator/StudioDeen, had a lot of disagreements going on behind the scenes. Creator Creator/NatsukiTakaya--who, due to a hand injury, had to take a break from drawing the manga and was able to have more direct involvement with the anime--and director Akitaroh Daichi drove each other nuts. During production, Takaya gained a reputation for being a control freak; for one, she demanded that [[AllStarCast big-name voice actors]] be cast for her characters, something Daichi [[StuntCasting normally]] avoids. She also had issues with the character designs and how the anime's tone was LighterAndSofter with more emphasis on comedy. By the time the anime finished airing, she was [[DisownedAdaptation highly disappointed]] with how it turned out. It would never have a second season since DEEN wouldn't let any director except Daichi handle the series, and Daichi has made it very clear he ''won't'' work with Takaya again. It took nearly ''18 years'' for there to be another anime adaptation that would be [[TruerToTheText more faithful to the original manga's plot and tone]], but this time handled by Creator/TMSEntertainment and with a completely different voice cast. |
| 32 | * Around two-thirds of the way through the anime adaptation of ''Manga/HisAndHerCircumstances'', the creative differences between author Masami Tsuda and director Creator/HideakiAnno reached to the point that she demanded him to be dismissed; Anno made the anime ''far'' too comedic for Tsuda's taste[[note]]which is quite jarring considering that this is the same guy who gave us the infamously dark ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''[[/note]]; she wanted a more angsty and plot-driven series, similar to the angstier turns that the story would eventually take. Once Anno left, his assistant Kazuya Tsurumaki completed the series... ironically, making it ''even more'' comedic in process. On the other hand, back then Tsurumaki's style wasn't the screwball type [[Creator/StudioGainax GAINAX]] was in general and [[Anime/{{FLCL}} he in particular]] [[Anime/DieBuster would later]] [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann become famous for]], but in more conventional RomanticComedy, which was more acceptable for the mangaka. |
| 33 | * Creator/YoshiyukiTomino and [[Manga/TheFiveStarStories Mamoru Nagano]] famously clashed in both their best known collaborations, ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' and ''Anime/HeavyMetalLGaim''. Tomino, who was heavily depressed at the time, tended to create [[CrapsackWorld bleak, somber works]] filled with [[TrueArtIsAngsty angst and suffering]], while Nagano, while not without an occasional {{GRIMDARK}} moment of his own, nevertheless wished for less dark storytelling and, being infamously possessive of his works, a bigger creative control. Things were hot enough that Nagano ended up [[StartMyOwn starting his own]] [[Manga/TheFiveStarStories L-Gaim]], and Tomino made him one of the prototypes for the main Zeta villain, Paptimus Scirocco. Their creative clashes were exacerbated by the fact that [[LoveTriangle both men were competing for the affections]] of the ''Zeta'' {{seiyuu}} Creator/MariaKawamura. The rumor goes that Tomino is still somewhat bitter over the fact that [[DidNotGetTheGirl not only Kawamura chose Nagano over him]], but they're HappilyMarried for many years. |
| 34 | * According to other cast and crew members, this is the reason why Tracey Moore quit her title role in the Creator/DiC dub of ''Anime/SailorMoon'' after roughly 13 episodes. Apparently, Moore (who was also the original voice director) was very stressed with the workload the show brought her, and her duties were given to other people. |
| 35 | ** Specifically, she didn't get along with Nicole Thuault, the dubbing studio (Optimum Productions)'s producer. The next two voice directors (Roland Parliament and John Stocker) were also fired over creative differences with her, and Nicole took matters into her own hands and directed the dubs for S/[=SuperS=] herself, even though she was a French speaker that spoke almost no English. |
| 36 | * Creator/IanJamesCorlett quit his role as the original English voice of Goku in ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' after 35 episodes because of a nasty fallout with Creator/TheOceanGroup. His roles in ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' were also replaced. |
| 37 | * Kyoko Mizuki and Yumiko Igarashi got into many legal fights over ''Manga/CandyCandy'' and both came to [[CreatorBacklash resent it]]. |
| 38 | * The two producers for ''The Sensualist'' no longer speak, and it's the reason the film has yet to see any kind of release post-VHS. |
| 39 | * Creator/TakeshiShudo, the original head writer for ''Anime/PokemonTheOriginalSeries'', had envisioned the show as one that could be enjoyed by both children and adults alike. [[http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbagraphic:Translating_the_Blog_Entries_of_Mr._Shudo His blogs]] reveal that this did not sit well with a lot of the staff, especially one he refers to as "omae-sama." Eventually, Shudo got fed up with how the show became overly kid-focused and left during the Johto League. On a lesser note, [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/pm_lord_unknown_tower_entei/lord_unknown_tower_entei_mythical_third_movie.html his original idea]] for [[Anime/Pokemon3 the third movie]] was rejected by the staff, who thought it lacked success potential. In this case, [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools it was probably for the best]], since the third movie he went with is considered a contender for the best movie in the series to this day. |
| 40 | * ''Anime/{{Shirobako}}'' has an InUniverse example which hit the studio the series follows ''badly''. Because the editor sent by the book's publishing house is a LazyBum, a crisis is formed when the original author of ''3rd Aerial Girls Squad'' is unhappy with certain design and plot decisions by the studio which could cause an ExecutiveVeto and the show (and the studio) to fail. Both times, it causes months of planning on multiple projects to go flying out the window and makes an already difficult production process much worse. |
| 41 | ** The first issue comes up in Episode 15, when the editor reveals the author didn't like the designs of the characters and makes the studio redo them... right after they completed animation on the first episode. |
| 42 | ** The second issue happens in Episode 22, where the editor reveals that the author didn't like the show's ''script'' for not being a DownerEnding, right when the studio had ''nearly finished production of the series!'' [[spoiler: Kinoshita, the show's director is so pissed that he arranged a meeting with the author himself and gets the editor fired. The author is reasonable enough to allow for the studio to [[GeckoEnding write a]] BittersweetEnding very close to the original to prevent massive MoodWhiplash.]] |
| 43 | * According to [[https://twitter.com/i/moments/926914353680568321 this interview]], [[Creator/TiteKubo Noriaki "Tite" Kubo]] wasn't exactly happy with the changes made to the ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' anime. Kubo says that at some point that the differences between manga and anime caused him "stomach aches", so later he demanded to be sent the scripts so he could correct them. |
| 44 | [[/folder]] |
| 45 | |
| 46 | [[folder:ComicBooks]] |
| 47 | * Creator/JohnWagner and Creator/AlanGrant had a bit of a falling out in the late 80s over the direction in which to take ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd''; Wagner wanted to humanize Dredd more, while Grant wanted to {{Flanderiz|ation}}e him into being more of a dark {{parody}} of strict authority figures. As the strip's original creator, Wagner won out, and so Grant left, but as a consolation was made the sole writer for ''ComicBook/StrontiumDog''. |
| 48 | * Creator/JohnByrne left the ''The ComicBook/UncannyXMen'' after a very successful run that included ''ComicBook/TheDarkPhoenixSaga'' and ''ComicBook/DaysOfFuturePast'' because he became increasingly frustrated with writer Creator/ChrisClaremont ignoring what he had drawn in favor of writing his own interpretation. |
| 49 | -->'''Byrne:''' That was the argument that Chris and I always had was that Chris didn't write the picture. And so I eventually reached the point where I said "Maybe ''I'' should be writing the picture." |
| 50 | ** In the end, this same situation, only reversed in the outcome, was part of what drove Claremont to finally end his long run on ''X-Men'' and leave Marvel altogether for a few years. In the last year or so of his run, Creator/JimLee would send him finished artwork, essentially saying "write a story around ''that''". Bob Harras, the Editor in Chief, was starting to side with the new crop of superstar artists, and Claremont grew fed up with the situation. Claremont later said Lee had wanted a return to the classic X-Men stories he grew up reading with Magneto as a villain and Claremont had "Been there, done that." |
| 51 | ** In reading Creator/JimShooter's blog, this seems to be a constant source of tension between writer and artist. The writer often wants the scene visualized as he or she writes it in the script due to the necessities of storytelling (Shooter, for instance, writes long descriptions and even at times sends reference photos or sketches along to clarify how things should look). Meanwhile, the artist believes him or herself responsible for the visual look of the pages and may see things very differently from an artistic standpoint. |
| 52 | * The original head writers for ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'', Creator/KenPenders and Creator/KarlBollers, came to butt heads very badly at the end of their run, leading to both of them to quit, though it's said that Karl was the only one who quit and Ken was "let go". Their fighting got so vicious and resulted in so much KudzuPlot and AbortedArc that the next writer, Creator/IanFlynn, had to spend the entire first year of his run untangling the insane mass of plot threads the two left in their wake. |
| 53 | ** To better understand this: Ken Penders was head writer for a time but then following issue 50 went to focus on the ''Knuckles'' comic. Karl took over and the two seemed to be out of each other's hair until the ''Knuckles'' comic was canceled, putting the two head writers together. For a while, Ken had Knuckles back-up stories to Karl's main Sonic stories, but when the back-ups were abandoned, the two ended up working together and the messes began. |
| 54 | * When ComicBook/{{Morbius}} [[OurVampiresAreDifferent the Living Vampire]]'s first solo series started in the early 1990s, it was helmed by writer Len Kaminski and penciler Ron Wagner. Wagner, however, felt that Kaminski's stories were too character-driven, and according to Kaminski complained about this to [[Creator/MarvelComics Marvel's]] editorial staff as well as leaving "snide margin notes in which he made his personal opinion of my plots clear". Moreover, Wagner ignored Kaminski's attempts to get in touch with him so that they could discuss how the comic should be done. After 9 issues of this Kaminski had had enough and quit. |
| 55 | * This was the reason why Jonboy Meyers left from Benjamin Percy's ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'' run of ''ComicBook/TeenTitans''. |
| 56 | * The original creative team of ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'', Creator/StanLee and Creator/SteveDitko, eventually split after the comic's third year. While for years rumors insisted the falling-out was over disagreements over the identity of the Green Goblin (Spidey's arch-enemy caused his creators to split! It's almost too poetic), Ditko made a statement shortly before his death setting the record straight, that Osborn being the Goblin was one of the few things he and Stan agreed on. The split was due to the two men's very different attitudes, personalities, and politics, similar to Lee's contretemps with Creator/JackKirby. The first issue of ''Spider-Man'' with John Romita replacing Ditko as artist had a vague statement from Stan on the letters page simply stating that Ditko had left due to "personal reasons". |
| 57 | * The reason Creator/MarkWaid spent the 2010s away from DC Comics, despite his professed love for Franchise/TheDCU and everything about it, stems largely to the trouble he had working with co-publisher Creator/DanDiDio. Didio spent the entirety of ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'' complaining about the creators going off the initial plan, which as Waid was part of the group of writers meant he was one of the figures to experience this. Later, [=DiDio=] torpedo'd Waid's return to ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' before the first issue had released, as he'd decided to bring back Barry Allen and have him replace Wally West. With Waid forced to write for a series that only existed to bridge time until Barry's return and the launch of his book, Waid quit DC under tense terms, jumping ship to Marvel. When [=DiDio=] left DC in early 2020, Waid came back to DC. |
| 58 | [[/folder]] |
| 59 | |
| 60 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 61 | * ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum'' ran into this problem between the head writer [=Redskin122004=] and the co-authors he brought on to the project, most notably over certain plot points, issues in the side stories, and the depictions of certain characters (particularly the Human Liberation Front, Celestia, Discord, and Chrysalis). Over the course of 2016, these creative disagreements progressively worsened and became [[HostilityOnTheSet increasingly personal]]. According to [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/735623/i-aint-gone-yet Doctor Fluffy]], [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/735463/my-side-of-the-spectrum VoxAdam]], [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/766785/late-af-but-i-suppose-i-should-get-this-off-my-chest-a-reflection-on-the-other-side-of-the-spectrum Kizuna]] [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/944523/so-long-i-guess-a-reflection-on-old-times-and-looking-forward-and-beyond Tallis]], [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/767698/spectrum-a-few-thoughts Sledge115]] and [[https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/735427/jed-on-a-response-or-the-other-perspective-on-the-spectrum Jed R]], working on ''Spectrum'' through that year was a deeply stressful experience [[TroubledProduction creatively]] and [[CreatorBreakdown personally]]. This culminated in the team splitting up on May 2017, with the five aforementioned authors (plus a few others) going on to [[ContinuityReboot launch]] a [[Fanfic/{{Spectrum}} reboot of the story]] and start over fresh. |
| 62 | * In ''Fanfic/TheFlashSentryChronicles'', [=Banshee531=] and his editor [=AandWGuy=] have differencing opinions on Grand Hoof. While [=Banshee531=] has said that Grand Hoof is his favorite character, he revealed in the author’s notes of the chapter "Retirement" during Defender of the Peace Season 5, that [=AandWGuy=] does not like him. |
| 63 | * ''Fanfic/TheLittlePonyLegend'': Ultimately this is what stalled out the Journey of Iris part of the saga. Apparently there was a quarrel between the original author and Equestriakin over backstories and length for the story among other things, and eventually Maggiesheartlove decided to take back full creative control of the story. The party was amicable thankfully, but did stall the release time. |
| 64 | * ''Fanfic/PrehistoricEarth'': A massive number of these unfolded between co-authors Drew Luczynski and Nathanoraptor over the course of writing. In fact, quite often the story ended up on unintentionally long hiatuses due to disagreements between the two writers over characters (i.e. Luczynski having low faith in some of the characters' ability to carry a story on their own and wanting for the story to revolve more around a single clear cut main protagonist, Nathanoraptor taking umbrage to Luczynski trying to push his own personal favorite into a prominent position too early, etc.) and story direction. Eventually, after one especially long hiatus triggered by these disagreements, they were eventually able to work out a system that largely put an end to the problem. And even this wasn't enough to prevent a few more minor instances of this from occurring afterward, or Luczynski from eventually developing CreatorsApathy and later outright trying to [[CreatorBacklash disavow his involvement with the story altogether]]. |
| 65 | * In ''Fanfic/ASagaOfParallelWorlds'', Nivek (the betareader for the first two chapters) and the author have fallen out over the direction of this AVGN AU. Nivek wanted the author to remove all content from his pop culture TL, while the author wanted to create new spins on some content from it. |
| 66 | [[/folder]] |
| 67 | |
| 68 | [[folder:Films -- Animated]] |
| 69 | * This was the reason given for Creator/DonBluth and Creator/StevenSpielberg parting ways in the late 80s. The real reason was never made public, but neither of them enjoyed the same level of success in animated movies afterward (this came back for Bluth when Spielberg eventually co-founded Creator/DreamWorksAnimation with Disney boss Jeffrey Katzenberg; Bluth was unable to keep up, and Katzenberg eventually moved on without Spielberg himself outside of encouragement; Bluth resurfaced in 2016 with a ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' film in pre-production). And the whole reason Bluth left Disney and created his own animated films in the first place, in the middle of the production of ''WesternAnimation/TheFoxAndTheHound''. |
| 70 | ** As for Jeffrey Katzenberg, the desire to try to make DarkerAndEdgier Disney fare after he misstepped in such waters with ''WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron'' in 1985 helped lead to him leaving Disney himself; [=DreamWorks=]'s earlier films were somewhat darker and more Fanservice-heavy than Disney's films at the time (ironically, Katzenberg was the third Disney supremo who tried to push for dark Disney after his predecessor Ron Miller and Walt himself before both of them; the [[WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs first]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Pinocchio}} five]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Fantasia}} Disney]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Dumbo}} Animated]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Bambi}} Classics]] and ''WesternAnimation/TheFoxAndTheHound'' had some dark material in them). |
| 71 | * Director Roger Allers saw two while in Disney. First his co-director in ''King of the Jungle'', which would become ''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King|1994}}'', George Scribner, left disagreeing with Allers and the producers wanting to make the movie a musical, when he wanted a documentary-like film more focused on natural aspects. And then Allers himself left ''Kingdom of the Sun'' as his intent of making another dramatic musical clashed with Mark Dindal pushing for a screwball comedy, which was what Disney sided with to rework the project into ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove''. |
| 72 | * While ''WesternAnimation/TwiceUponATime'' was eventually finished and had a theatrical and home video run, writer and director John Korty and producer Bill Couturié had pretty different ideas of what the movie was supposed to be like, to where two different cuts of the movie exists: The Couturié cut contains frequent [[ParentalBonus swearing and lewd innuendo]], while the Korty cut excises all swearing (save for a mild PrecisionFStrike that gave it a PG rating). That these two would not yield an inch from their stances is why ''Twice Upon a Time'' was unavailable for television airing or home video release after 1998--any attempt to show or distribute the movie would lead to the person responsible for the other cut threatening legal action. Though that changed in 2015, when Warner Archive released both cuts on DVD. |
| 73 | [[/folder]] |
| 74 | |
| 75 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 76 | * Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse: |
| 77 | ** ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'': Creator/EdwardNorton was let go early on from playing Bruce Banner despite having played him in [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk2008 the 2008 film]]. When asked why Marvel stated that "[[http://www.avclub.com/article/marvel-kicks-edward-norton-out-of-emthe-avengersem-42993 Our decision is definitely not one based on monetary factors, but instead rooted in the need for an actor who embodies the creativity and collaborative spirit of our other talented cast members]]", which implied Norton was fired for not getting along with the other actors and crew, as well as butting heads with brass over the screenplay (an issue that was prominent when Norton did ''Film/AmericanHistoryX''). Norton's agent disputed this claim, as did Norton (who said he enjoyed the experience but didn't want to lock in the role long-term) but regardless the part was recast with Creator/MarkRuffalo, who acted in the role to widespread acclaim. |
| 78 | ** Creator/PattyJenkins left the director chair of ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'' because of disagreements over the film's tone and genre. She would have the last laugh when she joined the rival Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse and directed ''Film/WonderWoman2017'', which handily surpassed ''The Dark World'' both critically and commercially. |
| 79 | ** This along with constant ExecutiveMeddling is what led to Creator/EdgarWright to leave ''Film/AntMan1'' just a few months before filming was set to begin. Wright said in a [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/06/22/edgar-wright-leaving-ant-man-lead-baby-driver/ 2017 interview]] promoting ''Film/BabyDriver'' that he left due to being uncomfortable on directing a film with a screenplay that he didn't write (though elements of his screenplay would be incorporated into the final script) and busy commitments on three films during the film's [[TroubledProduction eight-year preproduction]] prevented him from doing more rewrites (despite contrary belief that he was enforced to rewrite the film into the MCU). He has [[https://www.newsarama.com/35100-edgar-wright-has-never-seen-ant-man-uses-interesting-analogy.html admitted]] that he hasn't seen the film and stated he will probably not see it ever, feeling that it would be like him seeing his ex-girlfriend having sex with another man, as in it would bring back bad memories of his time working on the film. |
| 80 | ** Disagreements between Creator/MarvelStudios and Creator/ScottDerrickson caused Derrickson to quit as director for ''Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness''. Derrickson was replaced by Creator/SamRaimi, though he remains involved as an executive producer. |
| 81 | * Creator/ForestWhitaker left the live action ''Film/FatAlbert'' film due to artistic differences with Creator/BillCosby. |
| 82 | * Creator/MichaelRedgrave and Creator/AudieMurphy did not get along during the filming of ''Film/TheQuietAmerican'' (1958), as Redgrave felt that Murphy's acting was wooden and hated his trademark ThousandYardStare. Redgrave was particularly distressed by Murphy's practice of keeping a sidearm available with him at all times in case he ran into "Commies" in Saigon. |
| 83 | ** It probably didn't help that Redgrave himself was a strong Leftist sympathiser and even had an [=MI5=] file on him, although he was never actually in UsefulNotes/TheHollywoodBlacklist. |
| 84 | * Creator/JackNicholson and director Creator/MilosForman had a falling out over Jack's character's motivation during pre-production on ''Film/OneFlewOverTheCuckoosNest'', leading to Jack and Miloš speaking through the cinematographer and Jack not contributing anything to the film's DVD special features. The cinematographer in question, Bill Butler, was himself a replacement for Haskell Wexler who had quit the movie due to - you guessed it - "creative differences." |
| 85 | * Director Creator/StanleyKubrick ordered so many re-takes of ''Film/TheShining'' (especially the scene where Jack says "Here's Johnny!" which itself set a world record for most takes for a scene with dialogue) that Nicholson swore he would never work with him again, and he didn't. |
| 86 | * Creator/MNightShyamalan left Creator/{{Disney}} in 2005 after a rather successful four picture run with the studio (''Film/TheSixthSense'', ''Film/{{Unbreakable}}'', ''Film/{{Signs}}'', ''Film/TheVillage2004'') because they were having creative issues with his next film ''Film/LadyInTheWater''. That film, however, became a BoxOfficeBomb, and Disney effectively had the last laugh after ''Film/TheLastAirbender''. |
| 87 | * ''Film/TheWarriors'' is known for Fox (Thomas Waites) leaving before the end of filming. Suffice to say they [[DroppedaBridgeOnHim dropped him]]... Very painfully. |
| 88 | * Creator/BillMurray and Creator/HaroldRamis fell out while making ''Film/GroundhogDay'', as they both had different ideas as to how the film should be. Murray felt the film should be more philosophical, while Ramis felt it should be more comedic. This wasn't helped by Murray's divorce. They only reconciled before Ramis' death. |
| 89 | * Creator/DavidLean and producer Sam Spiegel had different ideas as to what ''Film/TheBridgeOnTheRiverKwai'' should focus on. Lean was more interested in the POW aspect, while Spiegel was more interested in the commando raid. The film is a compromise of both approaches. |
| 90 | ** Lean had a lengthy row with Creator/AlecGuinness over how to play Col. Nicholson - Guinness wanted to play the part with a sense of humour and sympathy, while Lean thought Nicholson should be "a bore." |
| 91 | * Creator/AlfredHitchcock fell out with his longtime composer Music/BernardHerrmann on ''Film/TornCurtain''. Hitchcock and Universal wanted an upbeat pop/jazz score for the film, as opposed to Herrmann's typical style. Herrmann's revised score was rejected and Herrmann quit the film. |
| 92 | * Creator/HenryFonda and Creator/JohnFord actually came to blows over this while making ''Film/MisterRoberts''. Fonda had been in the play and disagreed with Ford's approach. They got into a heated argument that resulted in Ford punching Fonda. As a result Ford was replaced and the two never worked together again. |
| 93 | * The ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'' had them twice. Creator/MatthewVaughn left ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' early in production feeling the time constraints wouldn't allow him to make the movie he wanted (family issues didn't help either; him having to just produce ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' was less this than just deciding to make ''Film/KingsmanTheSecretService'' earlier). During pre-production of ''Film/Deadpool2'', Creator/TimMiller left due to creative differences with the film's star and co-producer Ryan Reynolds as Miller was interested in having the sequel being a big-budget film, while Reynolds wanted another "cheap" movie like the original. |
| 94 | * Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller departed during production of ''Film/{{Solo}}'' due to disagreements with producer Kathleen Kennedy and writer Creator/LawrenceKasdan. In fact, both Kennedy and Kasdan felt that their fondness for {{improv}} got on a lot of people's nerves with Kasdan even personally coming to the set to berate them for it (leading to an agreement that they would shoot at least one take exactly as written before letting the actors go nuts). Creator/AldenEhrenreich was concerned as well since he felt that his portrayal of Han Solo could end up being a caricature of Film/AceVentura. As a result, Lord and Miller were asked to depart as directors and Creator/RonHoward was brought in to replace them. The duo would later produced and co-wrote ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'', which was released in the same year as ''Solo'' yet received universal acclaim from critics, won multiple awards including an Oscar, and made a decent profit while ''Solo'' got lukewarm reviews and bombed at the box office. |
| 95 | * ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': |
| 96 | ** Creator/RichardDonner was let go midway through production of ''Film/SupermanII'' due to clashing with producers Alexander and Illya Salkind as far back as [[Film/SupermanTheMovie the first film]]. Donner wanted a serious, respectful film while they wanted a campy film akin to ''Series/Batman1966''. |
| 97 | ** Creator/WesCraven was initially hired to direct ''Film/SupermanIVTheQuestForPeace'', but he was replaced with Creator/SidneyJFurie due to creative differences with Creator/ChristopherReeve. |
| 98 | * ''Film/TimeBandits'' was the only film that Creator/TerryGilliam made for Creator/HandMadeFilms due to numerous fights with co-head Denis O'Brien. |
| 99 | * Creator/ColinTrevorrow was attached to write and direct ''Franchise/StarWars: [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Episode IX]]'', but wound up leaving due to this. The only official comment by Creator/KathleenKennedy said that he was at a disadvantage of trying to catch up with the original story considerations made during ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' (there are also rumours that trying to fit in with ''Film/TheLastJedi'' did not help either, and that Trevorrow became difficult to work with during ''Film/JurassicWorld'' and ''Film/TheBookOfHenry''). |
| 100 | * Creator/BillyWest would be Bugs Bunny again in ''Film/LooneyTunesBackInAction'', but conflicts with director Creator/JoeDante regarding how the character should be played (Dante wanted him to sound closer to Creator/MelBlanc) made him eventually be replaced by Creator/JoeAlaskey. |
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| 104 | * In a classic example, Creator/JulesVerne and his lifetime publisher Pierre-Jules Hetzel constantly clashed about the content of Verne's work, with [[ThePollyanna Hetzel]] consistently fighting to mitigate Verne's [[HumansAreBastards bitterness and gloom]], and [[ExecutiveMeddling insisting on him]] writing the LighterAndSofter fiction. Hetzel also wasn't averse to [[LowestCommonDenominator pandering to the audience]], to which [[DeadpanSnarker Verne]] usually replied with his [[VitriolicBestBuds most pointed epistolar barbs]]. |
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| 107 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 108 | * After his experience with ''Series/{{Firefly}}'', Creator/JossWhedon refused to work with {{Creator/FOX}} for years because of this, foremost being an early cancellation. He only relented with ''Series/{{Dollhouse}}'' because star Creator/ElizaDushku had a 3-series deal with the network; Dushku brought Whedon in. |
| 109 | * ''Series/DoctorWho'': |
| 110 | ** Creator/MaureenOBrien, who played Vicki, got on very well with Creator/WilliamHartnell both in-character and on-set. When a new production team led by Creator/JohnWiles took over, he began moving the show in a DarkerAndEdgier, FailureHero-led, InternalDeconstruction direction that Hartnell disliked. O'Brien formed a team with him and supported all of Hartnell's attempts to WagTheDirector, and Wiles decided to fire her in the hope of breaking Hartnell. Vicki was first pencilled in to be killed off, but was eventually PutOnABusToHell to get rid of the actress sooner. |
| 111 | ** Creator/WilliamHartnell's departure was also at least in part due to creative differences with a new production team (although his failing health was also a factor). He saw the show as a children's programme, but the new producers had other ideas. "So did I, so I left", as he said in a letter to a fan. |
| 112 | ** During the TroubledProduction of "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS17E4NightmareOfEden Nightmare of Eden]]", the entire cast and crew had it in for the director Alan Bromly, an ageing director pulled out of retirement, unused to modern production schedules and values and with a very authoritarian attitude. This especially inflamed Creator/TomBaker, who had been [[WagTheDirector Wagging The Director]] frequently and who felt he was best when he could ThrowItIn and [[HarpoDoesSomethingFunny do unscripted business]]. Seeing Bromly as incompetent, Baker took rather sadistic pleasure using his acerbic wit to bully and humiliate him in front of the crew, eroding his authority further, and their animosity eventually culminated in a screaming match between them in the BBC corridors which producer Creator/GrahamWilliams had to intervene in. The chaos had sent recording well behind schedule and Bromly was decided to have been responsible. Bromly quit, citing creative differences with Baker, and Williams, who had become sick of Baker's difficult personality already, announced his intention to quit at the end of the season also because of creative differences with Baker. Williams' replacement was Creator/JohnNathanTurner, who Baker hated, and who wanted a new Doctor to leave his stamp on the show - so Baker eventually left the role stating he felt he had no further to go with his character and citing creative differences with Nathan-Turner. |
| 113 | ** On "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E4StateOfDecay State of Decay]]", writer Creator/TerranceDicks and director Peter Moffatt clashed with script editor Creator/ChristopherHBidmead. They were in favour of a Film/HammerHorror approach, which he didn't think was the style that he wanted for the series. |
| 114 | ** The most notorious and damaging example was the conflict between the producer Creator/JohnNathanTurner and script editor Eric Saward over the ending of the "Trial of a Time Lord" season. Saward, out of his general love for DarkerAndEdgier content and his hero worship of the recently departed writer of the arc Creator/RobertHolmes, wanted the season to end with a CliffHanger in which the Doctor and his EnemyWithout the Valeyard were seemingly either dead or trapped eternally in a SealedEvilInADuel situation. Nathan-Turner felt, with considerable justification, that since the BBC wanted to cancel the show altogether, writing an ending that could be seen as a BolivianArmyEnding for the whole show was a very bad idea. Saward, whose relationship with Nathan-Turner was already strained due to personality clashes and his belief that Nathan-Turner was paying insufficient attention to the artistic content of the series, accused Nathan-Turner of having no respect for Holmes' last work, quit with no finalised script for the final episode, threatened to sue the BBC if they made a final episode with '''any''' similarity to any draft he'd worked on, and then gave an interview to a fan publication viciously slagging off Nathan-Turner. The whole affair led to a somewhat disjointed on-screen end to a season that, in reality, had been seen as the show's make-or-break chance to avoid cancellation, and contributed to the show's actual cancellation a few years afterwards. |
| 115 | ** Creator/ChristopherEccleston left the revival, due to his fights with the executives "over the way things were being run", and, according to him, his distaste for non-acting personnel getting bullied by directors. He wouldn't return to the show until fifteen years later, when it was confirmed that Eccleston would reprise his role as the Ninth Doctor in the [[AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho audio plays]]. |
| 116 | * A notable play on this phrase came when Creator/HarryShearer left ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' in 1984. When a reporter mentioned to Shearer that this trope was the show's stated reason for his departure, he quipped, "Yeah, I was creative, and they were different." |
| 117 | * Creator/ConanOBrien left the ''Series/TheTonightShow'' in the beginning of 2010, after only six months of hosting it, due to his refusal to let Creator/{{NBC}} move the show a half hour later in their schedule in order to give the fledgling ''Creator/JayLeno Show'' a boost in ratings, claiming that it would ultimately be detrimental to ''The Tonight Show''. At the end of the day, Conan left because Leno had the better contract. Leno's primetime show was tanking in the ratings to the point that local affiliates, worried about flagging viewership for the 10/11-o'clock news due to the unpopular Leno lead-in, threatened to drop it themselves. NBC was forced into a situation where ''somebody'' had to go. Breaking Conan's contract cost NBC $45 million, but breaking Leno's would have cost $100 million, so NBC presented Conan with an unacceptable situation to convince him to accept a buyout. A month later, Conan was gone and Leno was back on ''Series/TheTonightShow''. |
| 118 | * ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' writer Judd Lynn eventually quit because of creative differences with Executive Producer Jonathan Tzachor (funny enough, Lynn would replace Tzachor as EP years later when the latter was fired after a much maligned 4-year run). Jackie Marchand also left at the same time as Lynn, though she would return to the show two years later at which point, it changed hands from Saban Entertainment to Disney. |
| 119 | * For several years, Creator/CarrollOConnor refused to work with Creator/{{CBS}} after they denied him the chance to shoot a series finale for the ''Series/AllInTheFamily''-spinoff ''Series/ArchieBunkersPlace''. He would eventually return to work with them on the ''Series/InTheHeatOfTheNight'' television series in 1992, after the show moved to the network from Creator/{{NBC}}. |
| 120 | * This is the reason Creator/RonaldDMoore left ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' and effectively ''Franchise/StarTrek'' itself after more than a decade of writing for three different series. He apparently couldn't abide the controlling nature of how the show was written. |
| 121 | * Jack Klugman didn't care for Glen A. Larson's approach on ''Series/QuincyME'', eventually telling Creator/{{NBC}} that either Larson left or he would. The network chose Klugman (the show lasted a lot longer without Larson than with, effectively vindicating Klugman... soapboxing and all). |
| 122 | * This was the bane of Creator/JMichaelStraczynski's TV show endeavours, and the reason for the death of ''Series/{{Crusade}}'' before it got a chance to mature and ''Series/{{Jeremiah}}'' being cancelled after two seasons. ''Series/CaptainPowerAndTheSoldiersOfTheFuture'' was a particularly severe case for him, as the Creator/{{Mattel}} execs who commissioned the series saw it as little more than [[MerchandiseDriven a vehicle to sell toys to children]], while Straczynski and the show's other writers saw it as a serious sci-fi story, with rather heavy themes involving [[AfterTheEnd nuclear war]], [[ANaziByAnyOtherName fascism]], and [[AIIsACrapshoot AI revolt]], which ultimately became a major contributing factor to the series' cancellation after only a single season. |
| 123 | * Creator/ChevyChase gained a certain amount of notoriety both among fans and his coworkers for being outspoken regarding what he thought was the poor quality of ''Series/{{Community}}'', and for feuding with series creator Creator/DanHarmon behind the scenes over it. He ended up quitting the show in November 2012 with only two episodes left of the shortened fourth season to film. However, while he was vocal about what he thought was the poor quality of the show, he was willing to return to film a brief cameo appearance in Season 5, indicating that the feud between himself and Harmon has largely been resolved or was overstated. |
| 124 | * An inversion of the typical "actor/writer leaves because he's pissed with the producers" setup of this trope was ''Series/GrowingPains'', where it was ''the producers'' who quit after Kirk Cameron became a born-again Christian and started [[WagTheDirector forcing his values onto the production]], pissing off just about the entire cast and crew in the process. The producers did try to get rid of Kirk first, but ABC executives told them basically "It's not ''your'' faces on the cover of ''Tiger Beat''", so they left. |
| 125 | * ''Franchise/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' creators Creator/BryanKonietzko and Creator/MichaelDanteDiMartino left the currently-in-preproduction Creator/{{Netflix}} [[Series/AvatarTheLastAirbender2024 live-action series adaptation]] in June 2020 because of unspecified creative differences with Netflix but didn't announce it [[https://www.michaeldantedimartino.com/an-open-letter-to-avatar-the-last-airbender-fans/ until two]] [[https://www.instagram.com/p/CDy5EcgDELh/?igshid=176btc1m7gcdm months later]]. |
| 126 | * On September 16, 2019, it was confirmed that Steve S. [=DeKnight=] departed ''Series/JupitersLegacy'' as showrunner over "creative differences" in the midst of production for the first season. |
| 127 | * There were disagreements on the set of ''Series/KeepingUpAppearances'' between writer Roy Clarke and producer-director Harold Snoad, mostly that Roy Clarke rarely watched his own shows, and although he wrote witty dialogue, the practicalities of the scripts were often hopelessly implausible, or left to the discretion of Snoad. Creator/PatriciaRoutledge refused to act some of the scenes as they were first written, because she thought they were too unbelievable. Harold Snoad ended up rewriting many of the episodes. |
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| 131 | * This is believed to be one of the MANY reasons why Bizzy Bone of the rap group Music/BoneThugsNHarmony wanted to stay away from the group for awhile, as his solo music was going into a completely different direction. |
| 132 | ** After the post 2010 implosion of the group, many think that Krayzie Bone is now having creative differences with the group and vice versa. |
| 133 | * Ryan Ross and Jon Walker as of July 2009 left Music/PanicAtTheDisco to form their own band, The Young Veins (whose sound is completely different from their previous band; compare Panic's latest song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebeKZGsadUU "New Perspective"]] with TYV's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMKnaYyuiss "Change"]] ), for this stated reason. This led to [[FanDumb many fans casting blame on them]] for not trying hard enough to work out the differences with fellow band mates Brendon Urie and Spencer Smith. |
| 134 | * Why Music/CeeLoGreen left Goodie Mob to eventually form Gnarls Barkley. Goodie Mob had eschewed the social-consciousness of their first two albums in favor of a more crunk style with ''World Party,'' which Cee-Lo hated. Judging from his solo albums and work with Danger Mouse, it's very similar to the ''Sliders'' case. He was creative; they weren't. |
| 135 | * Inverted with the Music/TheBeautifulSouth who, according to leader Paul Heaton, split due to 'musical similarities'. |
| 136 | * Music/TheBeatles all seemed to develop different musical styles by the mid-60s (''Music/TheWhiteAlbum'' was seen by many fans as being "four solo albums in one" rather than a true band album), and they began to feel a bit of this. Especially Music/GeorgeHarrison, whose growing songwriting skills weren't fully acknowledged by Music/JohnLennon and Music/PaulMcCartney. The movie ''Film/LetItBe'' is essentially what happens when someone has a film camera and films a band suffering from Creative Differences -- lots of bitter, snide passive aggressive sniping. There's one famous scene with Paul [=McCartney=] and George Harrison having a bitter fight over a chord. |
| 137 | * Music/TheAdventuresOfDuaneAndBrandO experienced this trope at one point. It turned from a permanent breakup in to a 6 month hiatus, with the band members claiming that the breakup was over a stolen ice cream sandwich ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_AVdgQsidQ&feature=plcp it really dealt with extramarital affair]]) and keeping their respective new projects open for when they needed to do solo work. |
| 138 | * This was said to be the reason why Dave Navarro was fired from the Music/RedHotChiliPeppers. |
| 139 | * On April 9, 1962, prior to a Carnegie Hall performance of Brahms' Piano Concerto in D minor with Music/LeonardBernstein conducting the New York Philharmonic and Glenn Gould as the soloist, Bernstein uttered an unusual disclaimer that he would conduct the piece according to Gould's unorthodox conception, one quite incompatible with his own. Though he allowed due respect for Gould's artistry despite their creative disagreement, his introductory speech became somewhat notorious. |
| 140 | * Nodded to by Disney sitcom ''Series/EvenStevens''. When asked about the creative differences that led to the breaking up of the band with friend Twitty, Louis explains, "I'm creative, and he's different." |
| 141 | * There were lots of other factors, but part of the reason for At The Drive-In breaking up was a legitimate case of this - Cedric Bixler-Zavala and Omar Rodriguez-Lopez wanted to explore ProgressiveRock and experimental influences, while the rest of the band wanted to play melodic PostHardcore. This is pretty obvious if you compare the two groups they splintered off into, Music/TheMarsVolta and Sparta. |
| 142 | * Music/{{Supertramp}} lost Roger Hodgson to this. |
| 143 | ** [[WordOfGod Hodgson has implied]] that though he and Rick Davies ''did'' have many widening creative and personal differences, that Roger left the band at least in part due to his wish to settle down, learn how to raise a family, and get away from the grind of the album-tour-album-tour rock lifestyle. Hodgson also felt disenchanted with the state of the music industry at the time (and the loss of intimacy of the ArenaRock shows the band were now playing post-''Breakfast In America''), and had wanted not [[WhenYouComingHomeDad to be away from his wife or children]] for long tours and see his kids grow up with an unavailable father. |
| 144 | * There was always some tension between multi-instrumentalist Music/JohnCale and front-man Music/LouReed during their days in Music/VelvetUnderground, but matters came to a head in the summer of 1968 when deciding what to do after the sonic assault of ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat''. The final result was Reed threatening to dissolve the group unless Cale was sacked, with which Sterling Morrison and Maureen Tucker reluctantly complied. |
| 145 | * Though only Greg Ginn knows for certain why he chose to break up Music/BlackFlag, Henry Rollins is certain that the break-up was because of this: Black Flag kept changing musical direction to the point of confusing fans, and Rollins suggested to Ginn that they release similar-sounding albums consecutively to stabilize their direction. Ginn, who up to that point had been unchallenged in determining the band's direction, was taken aback, assholishly retaliated by burying Rollins' vocals in the mix of their last album ''In My Head'', and Black Flag broke up soon thereafter. |
| 146 | * This was the reason that Moonshake effectively split into two bands after one full album and an extended play, Dave Callahan and Mig Moreland continuing as Moonshake while Margaret Fiedler and John Frenett formed Laika. Many fans consider Laika the "true" continuation of the band and [[FanonDiscontinuity discount the two later albums under the Moonshake name]]. |
| 147 | * Music/ThePolice broke up expressly because of this trope. They had already been drifting along and were quasi-disbanded after 1983's ''Synchronicity'', but they decided to get into the studio to record a new album as well as an update of some of their older hits. They only made it as far as "Don't Stand So Close To Me", the recording of which was largely eaten up by petty arguments between Stewart Copeland and Music/{{Sting}} over instruments to use. Sadly, Copeland later mentioned that part of the problem was that he had broken his collarbone playing polo, meaning he was unable to actually do any drumming [[note]]one of the instruments at the center of the dispute was a drum machine synthesizer, specifically whether to use the Fairlight CMI Copeland preferred or the Synclavier Sting wanted[[/note]]. He went on to say that had the band been able to jam and get out any pent-up aggression that way, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen The Police might not have broken up.]] |
| 148 | * This was basically the reason given for Florian Schneider leaving Music/{{Kraftwerk}}, after ''four decades'' of being in the band no less. |
| 149 | * In 1979, Rick Wright left/was sacked from Music/PinkFloyd. Music/RogerWaters stated that "Our paths were not parallel enough." This statement euphemized a vicious falling out caused by (on one hand) Waters giving [[IAmTheBand his own control freak tendencies free rein]] and (on the other hand) Wright concentrating on solo work instead of contributing to the band. Oh, and him developing "a nasty cocaine habit" as well. |
| 150 | * The reason why Dennis Stratton was fired from Music/IronMaiden. He was writing songs that Steve Harris felt were too poppy, and when the band rejected them, he left. There were also other creativepersonality clashes (Stratton only joined the band [[MoneyDearBoy because he needed work]], was unwilling to listen to heavy music all the time like the other bandmembers and at a certain point travelled separatedly from them, and his attempt to mix "The Phantom of the Opera" in a Music/{{Queen}}-like manner was promptly rejected by Steve). |
| 151 | ** According to the man himself, their early vocalist Paul Di'Anno was so bored of playing metal that he started drinking heavily. This alcoholism caused the band to fire him, which he apparently didn't mind that much. He much preferred to play punk music, and somewhat resented the fact that he'd missed out on the first wave of British punk by playing in a metal band during that time. Later on, he's had to return to the old Iron Maiden songs. |
| 152 | ** Adrian Smith left early in the production of ''No Prayer for the Dying'' because he was unhappy with the direction the band was taking. One album later, Music/BruceDickinson decided to go away as he was becoming burnt out and wanted to focus more on his solo career. Both would end up rejoining the band by the end of the decade. |
| 153 | * Reports of the 2013 breakup of Music/TheJonasBrothers allude to this. |
| 154 | * Music/{{Cynic}} have had this happen to them more than once. The ''Focus'' line-up dissolved due to the members all trying to pull the band in different musical directions. Similarly, Tymon Kruidiner and Robin Zielhorst left after ''Re-Traced'' due to them not agreeing with Paul Masvidal and Sean Reinert over musical direction. |
| 155 | * Music/TheFaceless has had a lengthy history of this to the point where they have had ''two'' complete lineup departures (one over the course of several months, the other over the course of a ''day''). While Michael Keene's drug issues and unpleasant personality were known but unspoken in industry circles and were the cause of most of the departures, it wasn't until the second mass departure in March of 2018 that a former member told the world just what the deal was, as an Instagram post from Keene that contained an egregious example of NeverMyFault kicked off a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech from former guitarist Justin [=McKinney=], who publicly eviscerated him. |
| 156 | * Music/CattleDecapitation departed with Dave Astor over a case of this that was equal parts creative (they wanted to write more complex and death metal-based material, he wanted to stick to grindier fare; some of this may have been due to his stagnating technical ability and apparent refusal to take lessons) and personal (relations with him and the rest of the band, especially Travis Ryan, had deteriorated to the point where he had to go or the band would likely collapse). They still haven't reconciled with him, and given Ryan's notoriously strong dislike for him, it's highly unlikely that they ever will. |
| 157 | * Ovid's Withering was already on the cusp of breakup when they were signed to Unique Leader Records and had a US tour on the way after the other members learned that Aaron Rodriguez had, on multiple occasions, pressured the wives and girlfriends of his bandmates to cheat on them with him or send him foot pictures. They soldiered on because they had bigger tours on the way, but after they learned that he had solicited foot pictures from an underage girl, they were completely revolted, quit on the spot in disgust, and severed all ties with him. Because Ovid's Withering was largely his vision, it will never come back in any recognizable form. |
| 158 | * This is what caused Music/{{Alterbeast}} to lose everyone in the band and ruined relations between Andrew Lamb and most of the other personnel[[note]]he never fell out with Mikey Wilson and has long since made amends with Monte Barnard and Gabe Seeber, but Rusty Cornell and Michael Zamora still hate him and refuse to have anything to do with him[[/note]]. A lengthy and somewhat troubled US tour had brought his controlling tendencies to the forefront, and his anger at having to go through what were apparently unpleasant but expected pitfalls of being in a low-level touring act magnified those tendencies. After tensions between him and everyone else (including former drummer and emergency fill-in Gabe Seeber) had reached a boiling point, the band dropped off the tour early, went home, and dissolved almost completely save for Lamb, who spent the better part of the year rebuilding the band. |
| 159 | * Music/{{Warbringer}} has had a lot of departures that have mostly been due to their heavy touring schedule, but a few were truly creative (John Laux) and personal (Ben Bennett). The former had been growing tired of metal and heavy music in general for a while, and by Kevill's admission, some of the more upbeat punk-influenced material on ''IV: Empires Collapse'' was intended to placate him (which failed, as he left almost right after the album dropped). Bennett, meanwhile, had started out as a live fill-in on their early tours due to Andy Laux's inability to tour (as he was still in high school) before being made full-time, and his arrogance, incredibly abrasive personality, and drug issues made him quickly wear out his welcome and culminated in an incident on a very large tour where he kept making incredibly cruel and hurtful personal digs at Nic Ritter that finally resulted in Ritter running out of the van and punching a dumpster hard enough to break his hand, which put him out of commission for the rest of the tour and made Kevill angry enough to pull Bennett out of the van and stomp on his head before kicking him out the minute the tour had concluded. |
| 160 | * This happened to Music/TheKentuckyHeadhunters. Lead singer Ricky Lee Phelps wanted to sing more traditional country instead of the Headhunters' style of Southern rock, so he and his brother Doug (then the group's bassist) quit the Headhunters in 1993 to form Brother Phelps. Mark S. Orr and Anthony Kenney took over on lead vocals and bass respectively, but Orr only lasted for one album because of creative differences of his own -- he wanted to "do something else", while fans, critics, and even the rest of the band thought that his vocal style didn't fit. As a result, Doug parted ways with his brother and rejoined the Headhunters, taking over his brother's former role as lead singer (while also becoming a LeadBassist after Kenney quit). |
| 161 | * This happened to obscure CountryMusic duo Bomshel twice. Originally, it consisted of Buffy Lawson and Kristy Osmunson, a lineup which recorded a three-song EP and a song from the soundtrack to ''Film/EvanAlmighty''. When Lawson quit over creative differences, Osmunson found Kelley Shepard to replace her, and the new lineup [[CanonDiscontinuity was quick to disown three of the four songs]] recorded when Lawson was still a member. The lineup fronted by Shepard managed to release one full album in 2009, but Shepard also quit abruptly in 2012 to form another duo called American Young. |
| 162 | * Music/{{Outkast}} got started in the mid-90s as a standard southern hip-hop duo, but in later albums, [=Andre3000=] began experimenting with funk and rock and took on a CloudCuckoolander persona, while Big Boi became "the normal one" who maintained a more thuggish image. On one hand, this dynamic led to their most famous work as their two styles blended together. Unfortunately, they never ''stopped'' diverging, which made their breakup inevitable. Their last conventional album together was 2000's ''Stankonia.'' After that, they released a few new songs for compilation albums and movie soundtracks to make it seem like they were still working together, but it was during this time that they started drifting apart. Their next big release, 2004's ''Speakerboxxx/The Love Below'', was simply [[DistinctDoubleAlbum two solo albums packaged together]], and they only appeared together in three songs. After that was the 2006 musical film ''Idlewild''. Its accompanying soundtrack is officially an Outkast album, but again there are only three songs featuring both rappers. They have been pursuing solo careers ever since. Even though they'll occasionally reunite onstage to perform their old hits, they've both made it clear that they have no interest in making new music together. |
| 163 | * Why Music/{{Sabaton}} changed every member except lead vocalist Joakim Brodén and bassist Pär Sundström after recording ''Carolus Rex'' in 2012. They were pretty open about the dispute: the other members (guitarists Rikard Sundén and Oskar Montelius, drummer Daniel Mullback, and keyboardist Daniel Mÿhr) wanted to tour less, despite the band's growing international popularity, and have more input into songwriting, and split from the band amicably to form Music/{{Civil War|Band}}. Brodén and Sundström recruited new guitarists and drummers for the subsequent Swedish Empire Tour, and is heard thanking the audience at Woodstock Festival Poland on ''Swedish Empire Live'' for accepting the new members. |
| 164 | * Music/{{Queensryche}} took this to new levels. After Geoff Tate was dismissed for one too many (literally) violent {{control freak}} tendencies, he filed a lawsuit for ownership of the band's name and started a new band under that same name; as a result, in 2013 there were ''two'' versions of Queensrÿche performing and recording, and each released an album (a SelfTitledAlbum by the original Queensrÿche and ''Frequency Unknown'' by Tate's spin-off). In the end, Tate lost the lawsuit and his band was renamed Music/OperationMindcrime, but both bands can still perform material from the ''Operation: Mindcrime'' albums. |
| 165 | * Metalcore band Music/{{Volumes}} have had this happen to them twice over the span of their career: |
| 166 | ** The first was the very acrimonious split with co-vocalist Michael Barr. Drug issues and personality conflicts with the rest of the group (especially Gus "[=YungYogi=]" Farias) forced him to exit the band near the end of 2015. Barr mostly retired from metal until getting featured on Dualist's Inner Word in 2018. Barr would later rejoin Volumes in 2020. |
| 167 | ** The second time this happened was in late 2019 when vocalist Gus Farias got forced out of the band. According to Gus, bassist Raad Soudani got the rights to Volumes' name and back catalog of music, [[HostileShowTakeOver becoming the full owner of the brand and kicked Gus out.]] Other have said that Gus was kicked out in combination of drug and personality issues as well as his own trap project, [=YungYogi=], gaining popularity in 2019. Gus has made it very clear that he was forced out and puts the blame squarely on Raad. Subverted with Gus's brother, guitarist, and band co-founder Diego "Yaygo" Farias who left the band around the same time as Gus. Yaygo wasn't touring much with the band other than festival appearances as he realized that production was his true calling and left the band amicably. [[DiedDuringProduction Tragically, Yaygo's post-Volumes plans won't come to be.]] |
| 168 | * Music/DeepPurple's third lineup fell apart because guitarist Ritchie Blackmore, who was accustomed to being the leading creative force, found himself outvoted musically. Newly recruited bassist/secondary vocalist Music/GlennHughes had brought his funk-infused R&B sensitivities with him, and everyone in the band except Blackmore was receptive to this direction. The lineup's first album ''Burn'' was still a mostly collaborative work, but during the follow-up ''Stormbringer'', Blackmore sat back and contributed minimally after his proposal for a cover song was unanimously rejected. Near the start of the ''Stormbringer'' tour, Blackmore decided to quit the band, and started recording a solo album, which would evolve into the first Music/{{Rainbow}} record. |
| 169 | ** With Music/{{Rainbow}}, Blackmore was the unambiguous band lead, but it didn't end the creative conflicts around him. The band's first vocalist Music/RonnieJamesDio came with his own powerful creative vision and HeavyMithril interests, which defined Rainbow's mid-70s aesthetic in concert with Blackmore's tastes. However, come '78 Blackmore had decided to take the band to a more commercial direction, wanting to lighten the sound, focus on contemporary songs with simpler and less mystical lyrics. Dio quit the band over the decision, and while the resulting ''Down to Earth'' album was Rainbow's most commercially successful, it lost both its second singer and legendary rock drummer Cozy Powell as Blackmore decided to further continue the commercialization. |
| 170 | * Green River, one of the first Seattle {{Grunge}} bands, broke up prior to the release of their first full length album, ''Rehab Doll'', due to a rift between members: Mark Arm wanted to keep the band independent, while Stone Gossard and Jeff Ament wanted to pursue a major label deal. Mark and fellow member Joe Turner started Music/{{Mudhoney}} not long after, while Stone and Jeff would eventually start Music/PearlJam. Things were eventually patched up enough that there have been a few sporadic Green River reunion performances. |
| 171 | * These have been all but stated to be the reason why Tommy "Vext" Cummings was fired from Music/BadWolves. While Cummings has maintained that he was fired solely due to his political beliefs and support for Donald Trump and was the subject of a conspiracy by the band and their manager to force him out behind his back, fellow founding member Doc Coyle has heavily implied that it was a long time coming and Cummings' support of the January 6, 2021 insurrection was the last straw, but that he knew or had to have known that the rest of the band was sick of him and that he was treading on thin ice well before that point. [[Music/FiveFingerDeathPunch Ivan Moody]] would go on to back Coyle's version of events, and said much the same thing - Cummings had worn out his welcome long before that point, they had every reason to fire him years before they did, and lying through his teeth about his firing and refusing to take responsibility for his actions were classic character traits of his. |
| 172 | * This happened to Veil of Maya twice. The first was the split with long time vocalist Brandon Butler. Butler wanted the band to stay Main/{{Deathcore}}, but band leader Marc Okubo wanted to change their sound. As a result, Butler left the band amicably. The second time was sometime in 2019, where the band had a follow up to 2017's ''False Idol'' written, but the actions of someone, in Okubo's words, [[https://www.theprp.com/2021/10/08/news/veil-of-maya-reveal-they-scrapped-the-majority-of-the-new-album-they-recorded-back-in-2019/ "left a bad taste in our (Veil of Maya's) mouth."]] Since the band's lineup remained the same, it's speculated that someone on the production end couldn't get on with Okubo and the rest of Veil of Maya. |
| 173 | * This, along with [[ExecutiveMeddling record label problems]], was a key contributing factor in the break-up of stoner metal band {{Music/Sleep}}, with bassist/vocalist Al Cisneros and drummer Chris Hakius forming the band {{Music/Om}} and largely continuing in the more contemplative, drone-oriented direction Sleep had started going with its final release, while guitarist Matt Pike went off to form Music/HighOnFire and move in a more aggressive direction. The split was amicable enough that the three reunited to perform live shows as Sleep, and, in 2018, Cisneros and Pike even recording a new album (Hakius having retired in 2009, replaced by Neurosis drummer Jason Roeder). |
| 174 | * Why Josh Middleton left Architects in mid 2023. Middleton wanted to go into a heavier direction, the rest of the band didn't. He also wanted to take his main band, Music/{{Sylosis}}, out of PartTimeHero status. Middleton made it clear that his departure from Architects was a professional split, and he's still on good terms the rest of the band and stays in touch with them. |
| 175 | --> [[https://guitar.com/features/interviews/josh-middleton-interview-architects-sylosis-a-sign-of-things-to-come/ Josh Middleton:]] ''We were on different pages musically – that’s the best way to put it.'' |
| 176 | * Music/{{Unearth}} have had several instances of this in their history: |
| 177 | ** In [[https://web.archive.org/web/20070127042432/http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/sep2006/unearth.aspx an interview with Decibel Magazine in September 2006]], the band's three remaining founding members at the time revealed that they originally came together as a result of creative differences in their previous groups[[note]]the interviewer describes this as a relatively common phenomenon in metal and hardcore circles[[/note]]. The band's four original instrumentalists, guitarists Ken Susi and Buz [=McGrath=], bassist Chris "Rover" Rybicki and drummer Mike Rudberg,[[note]]the latter two left in between the band's first and second album; Rover became PersonaNonGrata in Canada due to legal issues in 2001, while Rudberg suffered a career-ending CreatorBreakdown at SXSW 2003, which led to him performing in the nude only to [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone freak out and head back home]] the next morning[[/note]] first came together under the name Point 04 in 1997 with a different vocalist, whom Ken and Buz declined to identify by name. They also didn't say much about this person's expulsion beyond that they got sick of him and started looking at other options, with Ken quickly zeroing in on Second Division vocalist Trevor Phipps, whom he knew was having creative issues of his own. Trevor was more revealing about the issues inside Second Division, specifically that he was at odds with the band's lead guitarist, whom he described as an "extreme hardcore kid" who refused to integrate any kind of metal riffs into the band's sound. Ironically, Trevor was actually rather resistant to take a chance on a new project and kept shooting down Ken and the other members, most famously when the group approached him while he was recovering from appendicitis. Ken eventually arranged a BaitAndSwitch by selling Trevor on a side project but making sure Buz knew when they'd be meeting up so they could try selling him again. This last effort finally convinced Trevor to let go of Second Division and join up with Point 04, which took the name Unearth shortly after on Rudberg's suggestion. |
| 178 | ** Also present at the 2006 interview was the band's second full-time drummer, Mike Justian, who replaced Rudberg in early 2004. He would only last another ten months, though: the band put out a press release on May 10, 2007 announcing Justian's expulsion from Unearth effective the previous night. Said presser specifically mentioned both creative and personal differences, but no details ever emerged about the true nature of these differences. Whatever they were, it seems Justian eventually worked them out, at least with Trevor and Buz, as he was brought back in June 2022 following the departure of their fourth drummer, Nick Pierce. |
| 179 | ** The band would recruit Derek Kerswill as their third drummer in late 2007, only for him to leave in October 2010. The press release announcing his departure specified that his departure was amicable and based entirely on "musical differences". Kerswill himself didn't contest this, explaining that he was a "rock-style" drummer who kept getting recruited by metal bands, and that he'd been friends with Unearth prior to his recruitment and figured it would be fun, but burned out within a few years. He even returned for one show in 2011 when the band was between long-term fill-ins. |
| 180 | ** When the band announced that Ken Susi would be going on hiatus in summer 2022, only a few eyebrows were raised at first despite being announced simultaneously with Pierce's departure and the reveal of a new album in development. However, there was quite a stir when Music/AsILayDying revealed their new line-up at the same time, which featured both Nick and Ken, taking spots left open by the departures of Jordan Mancino and Nick Hipa, respectively. By that September it had emerged that Ken had actually left in late winter of 2022, hadn't played on the new album and had at most one songwriting credit[[note]]in contrast to Pierce, who wrote and recorded all the drum parts before he left[[/note]]. By the time Ken's departure officially became permanent in March 2023, it had been revealed that he was at odds with Buz over the band's musical direction while his interpersonal relationships with the other members had deteriorated, especially between him and Trevor (As with Justian in 2007, though, specifics about these conflicts have not been revealed by any party.) Both Ken and the remaining members stated that a mutual impasse had been reached and they couldn't salvage their relationship. |
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| 183 | [[folder:Professional Wrestling]] |
| 184 | * An occasional occurrence in ProfessionalWrestling, sometimes with mixed results. |
| 185 | ** In Japan, cases such as these are known for splintering companies. Most famous being Shooto and Fighting Network RINGS out of the Wrestling/UniversalWrestlingFederation and Wrestling/ProWrestlingNOAH from Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling. Really, though, a wrestler leaving for ''any'' reason might splinter a company, such as Wrestle 1 from All Japan after Wrestling/TheGreatMuta resigned in penance for Taru assaulting someone during the off hours and then was refused re entry back into the company when the new brass started running it into the ground. |
| 186 | ** Wrestling/{{WCW}} and Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling's agreement fell through due to NJPW not being fans of Wrestling/VinceRusso's booking, Wrestling/EricBischoff trying to tell NJPW how to book and WCW trying to enter a talent exchange with All Japan.[[note]]Probably also not helping was the deal being really one-sided in [=WCW's=] favor, in the sense that while [=NJPW=] was sending top tier talent like Wrestling/TatsumiFujinami, Wrestling/ShinyaHashimoto, Wrestling/MasahiroChono, Wrestling/JushinThunderLiger, and [[Wrestling/KeijiMutoh The Great Muta]], WCW would send guys like Ice Train, Glacier, and [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder nWo]] Sting. To their credit [=NJPW=] was usually able to get these guy over to at least some degree, in fact the fake Sting is more popular in Japan than [[Wrestling/{{Sting}} the real one]][[/note]] |
| 187 | ** More common in Wrestling/{{WWE}} is the phrase "we wish wrestler the best in their future endeavors". |
| 188 | ** There's also "Confronting their personal demons" which usually translates as "too drunk/stoned to work".[[note]]This comes from an interview with Wrestling/JakeTheSnakeRoberts in 1996, where he was talking about how becoming a [[HeelFaithTurn born again Christian]] helped him overcome his addictions, which he called his demons. As it turned out Jake wasn't really sober at all and would be fired for being '''9 hours late''' to a ''Wrestling/MondayNightRaw'' taping a few months after that interview took place.[[/note]] |
| 189 | ** The Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA[=-=]Wrestling/{{TNA}} agreement actually did end seven years early because of creative differences. The NWA had standards for its titleholders it wanted to directly enforce and TNA had already pulled out of the NWA anyway and wanted to promote material more distinct to its own brand. NWA 'abrogating' the deal is how most news sources reported it, however. |
| 190 | * This is why what lead to the foundation of NWA FUW. Dante Brown helped save American Combat Wrestling with his investment in it after the Bourbon Street Nightclub ACW ran out of went out of business, leaving the promotion without a home. There were six other investors who came in after the club's closure with their own ideas for what to do with the company though, so he struck out on his own once ACW had somewhat stable foundations again. |
| 191 | * Wrestling/DeanAmbrose departured from WWE in April 2019, after he turned down a five-year multi-million dollar contract renewal. His exit was so surprising (WWE took the unusual step of [[https://www.wwe.com/article/dean-ambrose-not-renewing-wwe-contract acknowledging the rumors of his departure as true]] ''three months'' before his contract expired) that many wrestlers backstage and even some dirt sheet reporters were convinced it was a work. There was hope that, following Wrestling/RomanReigns[='=] return from his leukemia-related hiatus, that Ambrose would stay, but he had already made his decision by then. Any doubts of him actually leaving were then dashed when he showed up unannounced at [[Wrestling/AllEliteWrestling AEW]]'s ''Double or Nothing'' event. He further elaborated to Wrestling/ChrisJericho his reasoning for his departure on the ''Talk is Jericho'' podcast following his AEW debut. In the interview, Ambrose stated that he began considering leaving while he was out for injury. He had been working hurt for many months prior to the injury that nearly ended his career (and ''his own life'' as he got a steph infection), and had gotten so miserable during the time off that he realized that he needed to jump ship as soon as he could. Following that, Moxley complained that WWE's writers were forcing him to do promos he found as ridiculous, and one promo he outright refused to do was alleged to have ''mocked Roman Reigns' leukemia''.[[note]]While Ambrose did make a potshot towards this on-camera, the specific promo he refused to do contained a line that was so controversial, he believed it would have cost WWE to lose their relationships with cancer-related organizations, and him and the writers responsible for the line to be fired outright. Moxley refuses to divulge what the line is in public, and stated that he and the few people he has told in confidence will take the secret of it to their graves.[[/note]] He went to explain that even if AEW had not gone into business, he was still leaving WWE to wrestle elsewhere because of the backstage strife — a point which he stressed by remarking that even if WWE was the only wrestling company in existence he would start another one himself. |
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| 194 | [[folder:Theater]] |
| 195 | * Creator/GilbertAndSullivan nearly broke apart as a team when Arthur Sullivan complained that he was getting tired of scoring William Gilbert's fantasy musical comedies and Gilbert didn't see what the problem was with them. Eventually, the pair managed to reconcile when Gilbert wrote a more realistic play that turned out to be their greatest work, ''Theatre/TheMikado''. This conflict can be seen in the film, ''Film/TopsyTurvy''. |
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| 198 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 199 | * Toby Gard, creator of ''Franchise/TombRaider'', had left the franchise by ''Tomb Raider II'' due to being pressured by the higher ups in making Lara Croft to appeal more to the male demographic. Gard didn't like the idea of having Lara's character being over sexualized. |
| 200 | ** Ironically, he later went on to create ''VideoGame/{{Galleon}}'', a game which featured ''two'' sexy lead females instead of one... |
| 201 | * ''VideoGame/MasterOfOrion III'' suffered something of a civil war on the creative team between the lead designer and the art director. The lead designer, Alan Emrich, wanted to more or less continue in the tradition of [=MoO=] II, adding more features such as religion, governmental corruption and the exploration of black holes, and of course new races and new racial abilities, but not fundamentally breaking away from the FourX SpaceOpera mold that had made ''II'' so successful. The art director, Rantz Hoseley, was having none of that, though: he wanted to have a more realistic simulation of a complex galactic empire, one that you couldn't run yourself and ''had'' to automate, and he also ''hated'' the humanoid aliens of the series (comparing them to PeopleInRubberSuits). Hoseley won the internal fight, and Emrich was forced out, leading to ''[[FranchiseKiller Master of Orion III]]''. |
| 202 | * One of the main reasons along with poor sales as to why many members of Creator/CloverStudio left Creator/{{Capcom}} and became Creator/PlatinumGames. They have also grown very disgusted at Sega's marketing for one of their titles, ''VideoGame/AnarchyReigns'', epecially in the U.S. This is possibly one of the reasons they allowed themselves to branch out to even more companies, like with {{Creator/Konami}} to develop the gameplay for ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'', and being the main developer for the Creator/{{Nintendo}} published, UsefulNotes/WiiU exclusive title, ''VideoGame/TheWonderful101'' as well as the main exclusive publisher of ''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta 2}}'' (with Sega merely owning [[Videogame/{{Bayonetta}} the IP]] rights, with no development input). |
| 203 | * This is the story behind most of the original Creator/IdSoftware's departures. |
| 204 | ** Tom Hall was let go due to him not being creatively invested in ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' (it was a bit dark and serious for the wacky mind behind ''VideoGame/CommanderKeen''). |
| 205 | ** Creator/JohnRomero was frustrated over ''VideoGame/{{Quake}}'' being turned from an ActionRPG into a shooter in the ''Doom'' template at a late stage in the game. He left to form Ion Storm with Tom Hall. |
| 206 | ** Adrian Carmack was essentially fired after ''VideoGame/Doom3'', later suing the company. |
| 207 | * Akira Sakuma, who created the long-running ''Momotaro Dentetsu'' series for Creator/HudsonSoft, [[http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/09/japanese-game-developer-gets-brutally-frank-on-twitter/ tweeted]] after Creator/{{Konami}} took over Hudson: "As long as there’s a guy named Imura at Konami, I won't make ''Momotaro Dentetsu''." |
| 208 | * The director of the first ''VideoGame/AeroFighters'', Shin Nakamura, left Video System over his disagreement with the company's decision to focus development on the Platform/NeoGeo (which only supported a standard 4:3 aspect ratio instead of the 3:4 aspect ratio used for ''Aero Fighters'' and ''Turbo Force'') and founded Creator/{{Psikyo}} to continue making [[ShootEmUp shmups]] in that vein. Ironically, Psikyo would much later release a sequel to ''VideoGame/Strikers1945'' for the Neo Geo while Video System would develop ''Aero Fighters 2'' and ''Aero Fighters 3'' as Neo Geo games before returning to the original screen orientation for later installments. |
| 209 | * Julian [=LeFay=], who is affectionately know as the "Father of Franchise/TheElderScrolls" because he spearheaded the work on the first two games in the series, ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsArena Arena]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIDaggerfall Daggerfall]]'', was a veteran of the early days at Creator/{{Bethesda}} Softworks, but was left out in the cold by the changes in culture the company underwent in the latter half of the 90s. That he wasn't picked for the development team on the third main game in the series he had a big hand in creating, namely ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', was apparently the final straw and he formally quit Bethesda in 1998, citing creative differences as the reason. While [=LeFay=] did have some sort of involvement in ''Morrowind'', it appears to have been minimal by all accounts and he is only credited as a contractor on the project. |
| 210 | * The creator of ''VideoGame/HarvestMoon'', Yasuhiro Wada, left the series after ''VideoGame/HarvestMoonAnimalParade'' due to this. He had wanted the series to be a SliceOfLife series about relationships in a small farming village, but Marvelous wanted more emphasis on romance, farming, and gimmicks. After the series deviated too far from his original vision, he left and formed his own studio. |
| 211 | * Creative differences lead to the cancellation of ''VideoGame/{{Darius}} III'' (distinct from ''Darius Gaiden''), [[https://twitter.com/VGDensetsu/status/1339157232185962496 as explained by Taito employee Takatsuna Senba]]. While Senba wanted to retain the distinctive multi-screen setup of the previous arcade installments, Taito thought the three-screen monitors were onerous and impractical and tried to get him to develope a single screen game instead. As a result, development stalled and Senba would instead make a new shooter named ''VideoGame/MetalBlack'' (which is often thought to feature assets repurposed from ''Darius III''). |
| 212 | * Ulf Andersson, the voice actor of Wolf in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'', didn't provide new voice lines for his character in months. At first, people thought the damage he caused to his vocal cords when he yelled ''very'' loudly in a "Twelve Days of Christmas" parody was the reason why he sat out for so long. Ulf later revealed that he had a falling out with his brother, who was the CEO of Starbreeze (the developer and publisher behind the game). Ulf did not like how his brother was running the company as well as his brother's extremely poor attitude, so he quit and went with a few other developers to make their own game, ''VideoGame/{{GTFO}}''. |
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| 215 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 216 | * Initial producer Boyd Kirkland left production of ''WebAnimation/LoboWebseries'' because he had creative differences with DC since he was unhappy it was retooled from a family-friendly cartoon to an adult-oriented webtoon. |
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| 219 | [[folder:Web Comics]] |
| 220 | * A source of contention between some fans (and ex-fans) of ''Webcomic/MegaTokyo'' is the "creative differences" that led to the break-up between the artist (and current writer) Fred Gallagher and former writer Rodney Caston, ultimately resulting in the comic's turn from straight comedy to dramedy. It is telling that the last comic Rodney wrote before Fred took over predicted ''exactly'' how the comic under Fred would be... kinda like a DatingSim. |
| 221 | * ''Webcomic/HiToTsukiToHoshiNoTama'': As said in the [[http://htht.elcenia.com/about.shtml About]] Page: |
| 222 | --> The idea for HTHT was originally going to be a collaboration between myself and my friend Emily Martha Sorensen of Webcomic/AMagicalRoommate and Webcomic/ToPreventWorldPeace. Creative differences led us to believe that collaborating was not, in fact, a good idea. We each peeled off parts of the concept and went our separate ways with them. Most of the original plan is unfolding here in HTHT. |
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| 225 | [[folder:Web Video]] |
| 226 | * During the heyday of ''WebVideo/StupidMarioBrothers'', Dane Kevin Cook had left the cast after the Movie. Rich Alverez claimed it was creative differences. However Cook was more upfront, saying that Rich had stolen Jackie from him, who was his girlfriend at the time. |
| 227 | * This has happened a few times with {{Creator/Cinemassacre}}: |
| 228 | ** Creator/MikeMatei revealed in a [[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheCinemassacre/comments/b322mv/mike_here_please_read/ lengthy Reddit post]] that him and Bootsy had a falling out. With Bootsy no longer involved with {{Creator/Cinemassacre}}, it's unlikely WebVideo/BoardJames will ever have a reboot or continuation of any kind without his involvement (the series was finished long before Bootsy left Cinemassacre). |
| 229 | ** Subverted with Kyle Justin. Between a busy home life, personal carpentry business, and just not wanting to be on video led to him not doing much on camera for Cinemassacre. He still helps out from time to time doing sets for the WebVideo/AngryVideoGameNerd. |
| 230 | ** Why Kieran Michael left Cinemassacre in early 2023. In a now deleted podcast, he said he was having issues Screenwave management and wasn't getting paid enough for his work. He also wanted to focus on his own streaming and art. Kieran also made it clear that he has no ill will towards James, Mike, or Tony. |
| 231 | * This one of the reasons why the WebVideo/PoohsAdventures community got heated conflicts between the people who are following [=Yru17's=] orders (a person who got hooked on the ThinkOfTheChildren thing) against those who oppose. |
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| 234 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 235 | * This was one of the reasons Creator/JohnKricfalusi was booted off ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow''. |
| 236 | * It's been said this is what scuttled John Kricfalusi's reboot of ''WesternAnimation/BeanyAndCecil'' in 1988 after only five telecasts, although Creator/{{ABC}} says it was because of unapproved material and missed deadlines. |
| 237 | * John Kricfalusi underwent this [[RuleOfThree again]] over the course of his work on ''[[WesternAnimation/MightyMouse Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures]]'' when he ended up butting heads with long time mentor Creator/RalphBakshi over which of them should have been getting more credit for the series' success and who had more creative influence. Kricfalusi argued that his direction for the show and constant pushing for stronger character animation helped make it popular and allowed it an extra edge that most other cartoons of the time didn't have. Bakshi argued that Kricfalusi would have never gotten away with half the stuff he'd managed to fit into the show without Bakshi himself around to keep ExecutiveMeddling off his back so that he could largely do whatever he wanted without challenge. And eventually, it got bad enough that Kricfalusi parted ways with Bakshi and the show as a whole without bothering to return for the show's second season. Ultimately, [[BothSidesHaveAPoint Kricfalusi and Bakshi both turned out to be right]]. Without Kricfalusi's bold and daring direction for the series, Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures only lasted for six more episodes before getting cancelled entirely, whereas Kricfalusi often found himself almost constantly arguing with executives on his future projects, and more often than not on the losing end of said arguments, due to having never had the chance to learn how to cooperate with them. |
| 238 | * Continuing the trend with John Kricfalusi, ''WesternAnimation/TheRippingFriends'' was also a victim of this. John and his crew at Spumco hoped to create a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Ren & Stimpy'' with the series, but ExecutiveMeddling from Creator/FoxKids forbade John from using his trademark OffModel animation style and asked for something more conventional. To make matters worse, production studio Creator/FunbagAnimation was more than happy to oblige to the executives' demands, as Funbag production manager John Shaw despised Kricfalusi and refused to follow any of his feedback or his style guide. Ultimately, the show came out absolutely nothing like what Kricfalusi wanted, and he has chosen to distance himself from the series in its entirety. |
| 239 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' went through this with Creator/KlaskyCsupo concerning its animation. The studio did the animation for the Tracey Ullman shorts and the first 63 episodes, however the overall look of the animation more often than not was deemed unfitting to the creators' needs, to the point where the first episode was demanded to be redone. The animation was shifted over to Creator/FilmRoman by the fourth season. |
| 240 | * This believed to be the reason why Mike Barker left ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' five episodes into its first season after [[ChannelHop moving from FOX to TBS]]. |
| 241 | * This occured with the Creator/DonaldGlover-created ''Deadpool'' animated series on FXX on March 24, 2018. |
| 242 | * InUniverse example in ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}''. Doug and Skeeter are working on a Quail Man comic (Quail Man being [[HerCodeNameWasMarySue Doug as a Super Hero]]) when Skeeter introduces his own hero, the Silver Skeeter. However, Doug doesn't like the Silver Skeeter because his NewPowersAsThePlotDemands attitude make him too "boring" and the two go at it and separate over it. They do make up and figure out a way to work with it and make Silver Skeeter less powerful. |
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| 245 | [[folder:Other]] |
| 246 | * Around the turn of the century, Mercedes-Benz and [=McLaren=] collaborated on the SLR [=McLaren=] supercar. Production lasted for seven years. When it was time to create a successor, the two companies had different ideas for where that would go and they parted ways. Mercedes created the SLS AMG while [=McLaren=] followed up with the [=MP4=]-12C. |
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