Line #58 Headscratchers/TheLooneyTunesShow


1	* Where is Petunia, WesternAnimation/PorkyPig's girlfriend? Isn't just a little weird that they play Porky up as a dateless loser when he is the only one to have a recurring love interest in the classic shorts?
2	** I think I see her in the intro, and in the group shot, she's waaaaay in the back, so maybe she's getting an episode about her and Porky meeting.
3	** I was able to contact Jessica Borutski and she has confirmed that Petunia Pig will make her debut appearance in Season 2.
4	** She finally shows up in "Here Comes the Pig".
5	* Since when did WesternAnimation/ElmerFudd become disturbingly obsessed over grilled cheese?
6	** Since [[RuleOfFunny it was funny.]]
7	*** Besides -- ten to one it'll never be mentioned again outside that song, at least not on this show.
8	*** That and Elmer being DemotedToExtra. I can only think of one other episode he's even ''in''.
9	** He is a vegetarian after all (he hunts for sport) so his sandwich options are limited
10	** Because a hunter has to do ''something'' to cure himself from the boredom of living in the suburbs with no forests around.
11	** Because he was out of french fries.
12	** Because SexSells, as does DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything.
13	* Not an issue, but... Pepe has been married seven times by episode two... Penelope and his unnamed first wife back when he was called "Henry" aside, who were the other five? Thoughts on this?
14	** [[WildMassGuessing Every other female character on the show.]]
15	*** Or male.
16	** He could have remarried the same wife/ex-wife several times, as well. Fall in lust/love, get married, get bored, start chasing somebody else, get caught, get divorced, realize how much he misses his old flame, resume the chase, get married... rinse and repeat.
17	*** Hate to admit it... but that sounds like Pepe... though perhaps that's better than him moving on to the next girl... over... and over... and over...
18	*** This is of course assuming that Pepe ever even met Penelope in this continuity, and given the fact that he has been divorced multiple times even if he did know her their relationship probably didn't last long. Pepe in the original cartoons was portrayed as a Casanova through and through, even when in hot pursuit of Penelope (or some derivative cat) he makes mention of his interest in other girls, so clearly these 7 marriages are the logical extreme that Pepe would go to if he ever actually did get the girl. Hell, there was one episode where Pepe was heartbroken over a failed relationship and joined the Legionnaire to get his mind off of it, he goes through many girls.
19	** Or they could just be characters we've never seen ... we've never seen Bugs' dentist either, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have one.
20	* Why does Speedy drive a car? His car is slow.
21	** Maybe he likes going slow every once in a while.
22	* Is Lezah supposed to be the same character as Witch Hazel or a completely different one?
23	** She's the same character, except with a SdrawkcabAlias.
24	** Witch Lezah's a different character. They just based her design and name on Witch Hazel.
25	** In one episode she mentions her evil twin sister, and Hazel was still licensed, so presumably she's just the good twin, created so they'd have the character.
26	** The Polish dub (and I bet that some of the others too) keeps her original name, so I could say that she's indeed the same character.
27	* So, was there any given reason for why the show was changed from "Laff Riot" (what the show was originally going to be, the one episode that was made surviving as this shows "Casa De Calma") to this? Cause if Casa De Calma is anything to go by, that would have been the much MUCH better show.
28	** Two reasons. 1.) "Laff Riot" was going to have a completely different concept than the "sitcom" premise it has now. It was going to be just a bunch of random skits like ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' only with the Looney Tunes, so the different title would also reflect how it would be a different kind of show. 2.) "The Looney Tunes Show" is clear, tells you exactly what it is, and is thus the most marketable.
29	*** I didn't mean the title change, I meant why the show changed from the skit-based format to what it is now. It's pretty evident why the title changed after they made it a different show.
30	*** Well, they changed the format mainly because the original format just doesn't work today as it did back with the ''Animaniacs.'' This way it is going more with what people like today (or what execs ''assume'' people like today), without feeling like it's trying too hard to raise the old series from the dead.
31	* In the prison episode, why was everyone continually harassing Porky just because he wasn't wearing any pants? He at least wears a shirt, but Daffy and Bugs are stark naked.
32	** RuleOfFunny.
33	** They're not ''really'' [[FurIsClothing naked]]. Probably. Also, ever heard of [[http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=porky%20pigging Daffy Ducking]]? Didn't think so.
34	* Porky seems to be on hard times lately, so what's Bugs, Daffy, and Speedy's answer? Get a girlfriend! ...they say this in more than a few episodes too! Why do they love that phrase so much? When you take into account that Tina doesn't lessen Daffy's antics, WesternAnimation/LolaBunny's belligerent behavior unnerves Bugs, and Speedy's hypocrisy, being the one without a girlfriend himself - one would think they'd have better constructive advice, especially when Porky already had two women beforehand.
35	** Well, the Speedy example doesn't count since he isn't shown to have any real problems in life. From the episodes I've watched, he's the only one who isn't a complete JerkAss or filled with social problems.
36	** RuleOfFunny
37	** They should've had Porky point out that Speedy doesn't have a girlfriend either, that would've been cool.
38	* In the episode when Daffy is freaking out over his 'beak bump' and demands that Bugs tell him his flaws, Bugs says he's narcissistic, a sociopath, and possibly a psychopath. One small problem with that, Sociopathy is a ''form'' of psychopathy, or at least according to the psychology textbook which may be inaccurate but I'll assume otherwise, and narcissism is a usual characteristic of sociopathy. So, why did they list all three things, when only sociopathy would be needed since it would count both?
39	** It's just more insulting that way.
40	** I don't think Bugs is a psychology expert.
41	** In laymen's terms, "psychopath" carries implications of AxCrazy. What Bugs was saying is, Daffy's a sociopath...who might snap and kill people, too, he wouldn't be surprised.
42	*** Actually, psychosis is a separate diagnosis from Antisocial Personality Disorder (which is the official name for the condition from which sociopaths suffer). A person with the former must have a loss of contact with reality to meet the diagnostic criteria. As for the latter, the individual does not need to possess a loss of contact with reality, but simply lacks empathy and the ability to connect with others. Individuals suffering from psychopathy can still possibly experience empathy, even if they do not have a grip on reality, whereas the latter cannot experience the emotion. It is possible to suffer from both conditions. Additionally, narcissism is NOT always a symptom of APD. It is a separate condition known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, in which the individual has an inflated ego and perception of their image. Bugs was accurate when he described his opinion of Daffy. The latter simply suffers from the first two conditions, as well as possibly the third.
43	* Do Bugs and Daffy always leave their door unlocked? There have been lots of times when Porky, Lola, and Yosemite Sam have just walked into the house.
44	** Sometimes at night their door is locked, but still, why would it be unlocked during the day?
45	* In the pizzeria episode, why did Bugs lock Marvin alongside the others? Marvin would have done a good job if not for Daffy's meddling.
46	** Bugs had no way of knowing that, he wasn't in the back to see that happen.
47	* Why is WesternAnimation/TheLooneyTunesShow so different from the original WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes? Why doesn't Bugs bunny live in his rabbit hole anymore and why is Daffy duck stupid now? Where are the explosions or the cartoon humor? Why do the characters live in a more realistic style and less cartoony like dating, getting married, and getting a job? I miss the old WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes...
48	** Because someone thought it was an interesting twist on the idea. Sorta like mixing the looney tunes and a sitcom. Its a new idea and it isn't the old show, YMMV on whether you like it or not, but if you don't there are a lot of old Looney Toons to watch
49	** CharacterizationMarchesOn. Daffy's been getting dumber and dumber for a few decades now.
50	*** To answer the question, in recent years the Looney Tunes have suffered several setbacks, which include the theatrical flop Back in Action. Additionally, the several made-for-tv imitations of LT were met with negative reception, which created more perceived disdain for the classic LT. Due to success with sitcoms in recent years, it was decided that the only way for the LT to regain mainstream appeal was to retool it into a sitcom-esque series. Of course, the reception has been lukewarm for the latest installment in the popular franchise, but Cartoon Network is not concerned over the demographic of 13-onward. The network caters to young children, and since they reacted positively to test screenings the idea was greenlit. It's a bit discouraging but true. It's unlikely there will be many (if any) future installments of the classic LT. If you love them dearly as you claim, watch them on Website/YouTube or dig out your box set.
51	*** You count Bugs not living in his rabbit hole as a difference because it's been confirmed that Bugs moved out of his rabbit hole and that The Looney Tunes Show takes place before Looney Tunes.
52	*** It is a matter of tastes. This troper watched the Looney Tune classic cartoons as a kid as probably everyone else, but they never really make me laugh, whilst on the contrary, I rarely laugh so much as I did watching The Looney Tunes Show as an adult. Probably people who laugh a lot watching the classics did not enjoy the new show, or some people enjoyed both. The show was ill-received by hardcore fans of the classics, but it enjoyed a very high rating and was one of the most viewed shows on Cartoon Network so it had its public, whilst as mentioned before the classic style of LT comedy had struggled to get into mainstream audiences nowadays. A lot of people go into the TheyChangedItNowItSucks when the characters they liked as a kid are changed, there are psychological reasons behind that that few if any have to do with artistic quality. Of course, the show’s humor probably would have worked the same with original characters, and LT were chosen out of brand recognition but they still blend it well in the setting IMO, besides the LT have being re-interpreted and retooled in innumerable incarnations by now which people tend to forget, for example, Taz-Mania and the Tiny Toons (which yes, they were pupils of the originals and not the originals but still were stand-ins for the LT), or Baby Looney Tunes. Some are more successful than others. Of course, love it or hate it everyone agrees that at least is not Loonatics Unleashed.
53	* Did Lola fall for Daffy or was it an elaborate gambit to make Bugs jealous?
54	** She's insane enough for ''both'' of them to be plausible.
55	* Why in the name of Sam Hill did Tweety save a ''Nazi''?! Is he crazy?! They enslaved and tortured millions of innocent people and yet he decides to save the leader of a ruthless organization!?! Why?!
56	** [[CruelMercy So that way the Nazi could truly be punished for his crimes against the world, the likes of which Hell could, and not give?]]
57	** He thought IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim?
58	** He's not the leader of the Nazis. He's a senior officer in the German army or the SS. If you can capture one of those guys it's a massive win for your intelligence service. The Germans in the episode were looting Paris because they were about the get the heck out of there. If Tweety and Granny could get ahold of that officer a second time (I can't remember if he was immobilized, have to watch it again), it's a pretty nice gain for the Allies.
59	** If you mean Frankenheimer, he's regular Heer (Army), not SS. The Heer did its fair share of terrible things but it's generally agreed upon that they weren't as bad as the SS, and many of them weren't even members of the Nazi Party anyway.
60	** Also, nazi war crimes and the Holocaust were not known until ''after'' the war was over when it was made public the existence of concentration camps and the gas chambers. For most people, before 1945 Germans were just another military adversary in a war that you didn't have to hate, it was until the scope of Nazi crimes went public that people realized this wasn't normal, and even then you couldn't blame the entire German people nor even the entire German military for it.
61	** It could be that Tweety rescued him because "Nazi or not" this was still a right thing to do. But the first two options (CruelMercy and IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim) are also possible.
62	* Lola. Lola bugs me. Everyone else is at least a reflection of their old selves, but Lola isn't even that. When she first showed up in ''Film/SpaceJam'', she was this strong mysterious woman, one who may have liked Bugs, but he was gonna have to work for it. Now she's... this thing. It's like the writers saw her and went, "Oh, a female Rabbit! Of course, she's a preppy valley girl who's desperately in love with Bugs!"
63	** Of course, this being ''Looney Tunes'', the point isn't to build complex, realistic characters. They're supposed to have a wacky, broad-strokes persona with a few wild quirks (ditziness, stalkerdom).
64	*** That's not a very good explanation when everyone else is at least a reflection of their former selves. Bugs is still a bit snarky, and better than everyone else at most things, like always. Daffy is a bit stupid with InsaneTrollLogic. Porky is still shy, Pepe's still a pervert, etc. With everyone else, you can look at them and go, "Oh, I see where they got that from." Lola doesn't have that. Lola might as well be a completely different character altogether. All she has left is that she's a female rabbit, and there's no reason for it.
65	*** This troper believes the change was due to the backlash caused by Lola's original character. She was a strong female character and Bug's love interest, yes, but to a lot of people that was all she had going for her. That, and fanservice. If you look past the obvious traits, she has no in-depth personality and her only real RunningGag was the "Don't call me doll" thing, which is just a cheap way of pointing out "Oh, look at her, she's tough!". She had no other quirks and she wasn't caught up in the slapstick as much as other characters are. Her unpopular response explains why she appeared only a few times since her debut in Space Jam, and most of her appearances were small cameos (if I remember correctly.) To change this response and make Lola more "Looney Tunes", I believe they decided to give her a completely different personality. And in my opinion, it worked. This Lola, while she has a lot of her creepy and irritating moments, actually has a personality and a family life that, while not shown in-depth, is at least acknowledged and she has plenty of funny moments and even a RunningGag personality that fits in with the Looney Tunes universe.
66	*** Also, Daffy, Bugs, Porky, and everyone else had their personas built up and characters established over several decades. Lola's only appeared a few times. The scriptwriters may just have thought her original personality was too one-note and not versatile enough to work through an entire series, so they changed her, realizing she didn't have a personality that was set in stone.
67	*** Because ''Film/SpaceJam'' Lola wasn't ''funny.'' She wasn't loony, she wasn't toony, and she wasn't ''funny.'' She was ''boring.''
68	*** As a female troper, I can say that you can't just think that the creators were trying {{Chickification}} simply because she was a female rabbit. Take Tina for example. She's a girlfriend to Daffy but she isn't loony or dumb like Lola is, she's the complete opposite, so the female stereotyping is legitimately ruled out. On another note, as the other tropers above said, ''Film/SpaceJam'' Lola was one-dimensional with little depth to her character than being a tough-nut who got resentful over being called a doll. Lola in this show got a personality fitting with the Looney Tunes format, a wacky, energetic character who's got her head in the clouds and, in my opinion, one of the biggest improvements within this series. Furthermore, in ''Film/SpaceJam'' she was indicated as a sex symbol, whereas in this show she's what's mentioned above, and doesn't suffer slapstick immortality because of her gender. Isn't that much better, and less sexist, for a female character?
69	** Did the original poster say Lola was Chickified simply because she's female? Also, if Lola having a whacky personality now is better, how come not a lot of people seem to hate Tina, who is CloserToEarth? does SHE suffer slapstick? Did this version of Lola have any CharacterDevelopment? Plus, Lola IS a female stereotype, a DumbBlonde. Also, the creators flat out said they never watched ''Film/SpaceJam'' and thus, they wouldn't know if the old Lola could fit in this show or not.
70	** This is a very subjective territory, I've seen several Youtube commenters mentioning that Lola's change in personality was one of the best things TLTS did best. Thing is, the original Lola Bunny indeed generated a lot of criticism for being just a sex object with an incredibly blank personality. Is almost a no-persona, other than being attractive to Bugs, whilst her TLTS incarnation apart from being much ''much'' funnier also gives more depth and paradoxically is the most looney tune-y of the show that is trying to leave the LT gimmick behind. Tina did not get the same backlash as Space Jam!Lola because a) Is not a sex symbol (is not unattractive but is not designed for FanService) and b) at least has a personality.
71	* Why did this show make Daffy unbelievably stupid? I mean he doesn't remember Bugs' favorite vegetable despite seeing him eat it lots of times and he doesn't remember Bugs' catchphrase despite hearing it hundreds of times... am I the only one who finds something wrong with this?
72	** If it makes you feel better, think of it as Daffy being so full of himself that he doesn't bother to remember anything that doesn't directly have to do with him. Either that or the duck has gotten shot in the head one too many times. Or both.
73	*** Word of advice, never use the words "Daffy Duck", "Mental Illness", and "The Looney Tunes Show" in the same sentence around fans, a war will start. This is why I never blamed Mental Illness for Daffy's newfound stupidity, I mean he wasn't that dumb in the original canon but now he is. Yeah being shot in the head one too many times could be a good reason.
74	* In "Semper Lie" why was Bugs still in jail after his disguise was taken off? The entire reason he was arrested was that he didn't look like the passport photo.
75	** I think they assumed he was a spy. He's lucky to have not gotten a bullet in his head. Remember, at the beginning of the episode there was a headline in Bugs's newspaper about Americans being arrested in Albania.
76	*** Then that's FridgeBrilliance!
77	* Did I watch this correctly? Bugs Bunny eating MEAT?? I thought he was vegetarian!
78	** You're thinking of Elmer. Although Bugs is a rabbit, logically he should be vegetarian, but Looney Tunes has never been big on logic.
79	** Actually... rabbits do eat meat sometimes, especially when they need protein. Normally insects but they can devour small mammals, which is not normal but is not unheard of. There's a reason behind the NightmareFuel known fact that rabbits' mothers sometimes eat their newly born offspring (lack of protein + hormonal disbalance).
80	** There many works featuring anthropomorphic animals acting on par with humans who eat meat [[AscendedToCarnivorism regardless of their diet]]. See ComicBook/MickeyMouseComicUniverse where Clarabelle Cow and Horace Horsecollar (and to some extend Mickey and Minnie) eat meat like humans. Plus, even though I don't exactly remember, but I think that Bugs had eat meat in previous Looney Tunes installments.
81	* Why doesn't Yosemite Sam's mustache get mad at him for trying to, oh I don't know, SHAVE HIM CLEAN OFF?
82	** Well, I mean, it's been with him his whole life, so maybe since they were supposedly good friends, it wanted to try to reason with him.
83	* Does Sylvester's son not exist here? I'm only asking because of that episode where he goes to see his mother and she asks about grandchildren. Sylvester acts like kids are a sensitive issue or at least something he doesn't want to think about. I do remember reading somewhere that this show was supposed to operate as a prequel of sorts to the original shorts, so I guess it's possible that he hasn't even been conceived yet, but I wanted to ask someone who's watched the show more than I have. Do other people even remember Sylvester Jr, anyway?
84	** I think you answered your headscratcher. Although the prequel theory is not canonical and not sustained by evidence as the show looks more like a prequel, with references to events that happened in old shorts (like Bugs leaving his hole or Sam choosing to stop being a bandit, and of course the fact that we see Foghorn life in the farm ''before'' becoming a tycoon), this at the same time would cause problems because if it is a sequel how come no one recognizes Taz? (and this would be a problem too if is a prequel for Taz's first appearance). In short, is probably neither, just its continuity.
85	* Why did they make Taz their dog? Why not Mark Anthony?
86	** Most likely because Marc Anthony was one of the more obscure ''Franchise/LooneyTunes'' characters. There were also more options than him, such as Charlie Dog (who, in hindsight, isn't much more well-known, but he still appeared in more shorts).
87	** Aside from the recognition factor? RuleOfFunny. Bugs mistaking a Tasmanian devil for a dog, and continuing to treat him as such even after he learns the truth, is a much funnier premise than just Bugs having a pet dog.
88	* Obviously, Bugs loved it in prison, and was aware that Daffy didn't like it in there; even respecting his decision to live his life on the lam whilst he attempted to go back to jail. If that's the case, why didn't he just use a portion of the fortune he earned by inventing the Carrot Peeler and bail Daffy out, while he stays behind in prison? Porky could've been a liaison for the bail.
89	* I noticed the characters' designs were slightly tweaked in season 1, but that the animators defaulted back to their traditional designs in season 2. Why is that?
90	* What's with Foghorn's LikeASonToMe mentality toward Daffy? He cares about him to the point of coddling no matter how many times Daffy fucks up or screws Foghorn over.

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