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| 7 | * I get that Splinter wants the Turtles to become strong and independent, but why does he NEVER go above ground? He is better than the turtles at ninjitsu, and it seems obvious that he would accompany them when either their home is being threatened as in "Panic in the Sewers" or when they go up top for the first time in their lives, as in the pilot. |
| 8 | ** I think that Splinter believes his kids can handle themselves, or, at the very least, will be able to escape from a fight if things get too dangerous. They've been training since they were little, and unlike previous incarnations, this Splinter seems less concerned with "honor" and more concerned with making sure his kids know how to guarantee their own survival and safety above all else. Personally, I believe Splinter's more concerned with being there for the boys. Think about it; they've managed to get out of every single dangerous situation they've been in so far; they can clearly handle themselves when it comes to combat. But how would they handle not having a parent, should Splinter decide to leave the lair only for something terrible to happen to him? My guess is, it'd end in disaster. Don't get me wrong; I'm fully expecting there to be an episode where Splinter leaves the lair just trashes somebody for hurting his kids. But until the turtles are up against an enemy they can't feasibly escape from, I don't think Splinter will see the need to leave the lair just yet. |
| 9 | ** Personally, I think Splinter is a bit ashamed of his rat form. The only time he leaves the lair he puts his hood up to hide his face. |
| 10 | ** This has actually became an ongoing plot point. He has now gone to the surface several times, but it was almost always pulling teeth (other than when Leo called him in The Manhattan Project) to get him to leave the lair, as well as him refusing to give a good answer why. Possibly shame of his rat form, or something not yet explained. |
| 11 | ** The first season finale implies that he takes a HelpingWouldBeKillstealing approach to the issue, as April questions why he's not helping when the whole world is in danger and Splinter responds that his role is to train the turtles so they can fight not to be involved in their battles. |
| 12 | ** One Doylist reason is that Splinter is shown to have insane ninja skills of his own - he's the only one who can match Shredder in a fight. Bringing him along would basically make him a GodModeSue who could easily flatten most of the Turtles' regular opponents. |
| 13 | * Do the people in New York know about mutants, or what? Not all of them try to hide like the turtles but people are still shocked to see them. |
| 14 | ** They certainly know about mutants as of "It Came From the Depths". That TV show had footage of Leatherhead attacking a guy in the sewers, and the people on that show were calling him a mutant. |
| 15 | ** Being shocked and scared by mutants and other nasties (one episode had April show the turtles a website that had footage of a Kraang) is a pretty natural response, prior knowledge or not. |
| 16 | * The Turtles are now under copyright of Viacom and Paramount just like Star Trek, so why bother making an expy of Star Trek. Why don't the show instead just put Star Trek in the show itself. Warner Brothers cartoons have Looney Tunes, DC Comics, and Hanna-Barbara make crossovers all the time now. |
| 17 | ** A parody is funnier, plus, they have more freedom to do what they want with it. Assuming there are no other copyright issues, if they went with Star Trek itself they'd be limited to following those characters and stories and canon. So far, every clip of Space Heroes has been made to fit the lesson, moral, or theme of the Turtles episode it's in. |
| 18 | * Since nobody likes the names Mikey gives the mutated villains they run into, why do they go along with it and address them by the names he gave them? Why not make up names of their own or address them by their real names? |
| 19 | ** Probably because they either can't or simply don't care to think of better names. |
| 20 | ** Because it's what's on their toy packaging. They'd lose their royalties! |
| 21 | ** I assumed it was a NotSoAboveItAll thing, and they actually do like Mikey's nicknames, even if they complain about them. |
| 22 | * Why haven't they pointed out that the Turtles are named after Renaissance artists yet? |
| 23 | ** Because "hur hur, ''art''" was tired 30 years ago? |
| 24 | ** (original poster) A callous response is not an answer. It just bothers me because all the previous continuities mentioned the Turtles' names being Renaissance artist namesakes and it hasn't been mentioned at all while this show will soon be airing the season finale. Some kids today might be familiar with the works of Michelangelo Buonorotti and Leonardo da Vinci, but I doubt many of them know of Raphael and Donatello's work. |
| 25 | ** (Not op) Also it would be nice to have an in universe explanation as to why a man raised in Japanese culture would name his children after renaissance artist, instead of something closer to his own cultural heritage. |
| 26 | *** Maybe Hamato Yoshi was simply very interested in Renaissance art, and/or maybe he chose not to give them Japanese names because he wanted to distance himself from his human life? |
| 27 | *** Mostly confirmed. 2014's ''The Good, The Bad and Casey Jones'' reveals that Master Splinter named them after his favorite artists and reveals a tattered Renaissance Art book. |
| 28 | * Here's a question about Shredder's daughter. In the press release she's named Oroku Miwa. Karai labels herself as Shredder's daughter. Is Karai a codename? Does she have a sister named Miwa? It feelsl ike there might be something the writers intended or am I just jumping to conclusions. |
| 29 | ** Press releases aren't always the most accurate sources of information. But given that ''Splinter's'' daughter is named Miwa, there's definitely potential for later dramatic reveals. |
| 30 | ** The season one finale reveals that Karai is actually's Splinter's daughter Miwa, kidnapped and raised by Shredder after the fight/fire that killed Tang Shen. |
| 31 | * I found [[http://turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Tumblr_mg1dnfXDpU1rkw2szo1_500.jpg this]] on TurtlePedia. Is that canon!? |
| 32 | ** No. The TMNT Wiki does not take itself seriously 100% of the time and has allowed fan art. The file name of the picture indicates that it originated from Tumblr, and Tumblr does have a weird fad of taking pictures and adding bizarre text to them. |
| 33 | * What was the point in hiding a naginata blade in Donnie's bo staff? Unlike Mikey, he has yet to make good use of it since the staff usually gets broken anyway. |
| 34 | ** Just because he hasn't used it yet doesn't mean he never will. |
| 35 | ** He's started putting it to better use in season 2. |
| 36 | * Leo is the primary driver for the Shellraiser, Raph mans the weapons and is primary driver for the Shell Bike, and Mikey is the navigator, so what job does that leave for Donnie? |
| 37 | ** Science Officer, obviously. |
| 38 | *** More specifically, he does everything the other turtles don't. Whether that's tracking something on a scanner or fixing anything broken. |
| 39 | * The show is really inconsistent with whether or not Metalhead is self-aware. It both his debut episode and the Squirrelnoid episode, he's just remote-controlled. But in Booyaka-showdown, he operates both attacking TCRI and during the DancePartyEnding, both of which Donnie was was to busy to be operating the control (and, when we see him, he wasn't) Then in the Mutagen Man episode he actually talks to Donnie in an R2-D2 way. Now I'm hearing about an upcoming episode where Donnie upgrades him to be self-aware, suggesting he wasn't before. [[FlatWhat What?]] |
| 40 | ** None of that suggests that Metalhead is self-aware. Attacking TCRI could be a program similar to the one running the robot foot soldiers as could dancing. Why Donny would make a dancing robot remains unknown but that wouldn't really be that far out of character for this Donny. It's been a while since I've seen Mutagen man but R2-D2 doesn't speak at least not in a language that humans can understand so it may have been Donny talking to his 'cat' so to speak. |
| 41 | ** Presumably Don gave Metalhead a limited AI so that it wouldn't be helpless if the control signal was lost again while still leaving himself the ability to take direct control. The minor actions Metalhead has performed autonomously could be simple programs like 'fight', 'dance', 'aid in lab work', and 'respond to comments'. |
| 42 | * Why is the show kind of inconsistent with how serious the events are sometimes? For example, the end of ''The Kraang Conspiracy'', April discovers she's a human/kraang mutant hybrid and she's disoriented by the news, and the next episode, April acts as though it never happened. |
| 43 | ** It comes from trying to balance comedic and serious episodes while maintaining an overarching narrative. If several days have passed between episodes then we can assume April has worked through the shock of TheReveal and is now trying to get back to an ordinary life and not thinking about it much. |
| 44 | ** The following Episode was the "Fungus Humongus" and April got dosed before the opening theme played. Apparently she's more afraid of her father returning to eat her than she is about being half alien but that's all we know so far. |
| 45 | * Why was the Ice Cream Kitty docile and affectionate unlike the other season 2 mutants (Kirby, the Squirrelanoids, and Slash)? |
| 46 | ** Kirby was still somewhat Affectionate, albeit in a bat-like way, Slash is a Flanderized version of Ralph, who he idolized, and the Squirelanoids are the Squirelanoids. |
| 47 | *** Squirrels are always evil, the Squirrelanoids just have a form that makes it harder to conceal. |
| 48 | * Will we ever get a background on how Casey learned to fight? I was assuming he was just a tough street fighter in general (and probably got in a lot of hockey fights), but he has some MOVES. Seems like he received some sort of formal martial arts training. |
| 49 | * As I mentioned above, wasn't Spike/Slash supposed to be a ''tortoise''? I could swear one of the early episodes specifically called him this (and although it can be hard to tell with the art style, he looks more like one than a turtle to boot), but he's consistently called a turtle in Hack and Slash. Mikey/Raph I could get misidentifying, but that's the kind of thing scientific inaccuracy Donny ''constantly'' points out. |
| 50 | * So how did Tigerclaw get mutated? It seems he's he's been a tiger for quite a while, long enough to get in a fight and lose his tail. Did Shredder mutate him and he got in the fight that cost him his tail all during Shredder's trip to Japan? Or was he an earlier Kraang experiment? |
| 51 | ** It's hard to make out, but early in the episode, Fishface mentions that Tiger Claw was mutated by the Kraang when he was a child. |
| 52 | ** This is given a definitive answer in "Tale of Tiger Claw." He and his sister wandered into a Kraang portal that appeared, then got kidnapped by the Kraang and mutated into Tiger Claw and Alopex, respectively. |
| 53 | * How has nobody mentioned Mikey's kusarigama? I get the naginata in Donnie's Bo staff, and a couple times you can see Mikey press some kind of trigger mechanism and the blade pops out, but it doesn't explain where that insanely long chain is coming from, or the weight on the end of it. Does he hide inside his shell or something? |
| 54 | ** I assume his chuks are hollowed out and they roll up into them. The math on that much chain being able to fit into them along with the blade probably doesn't add up, but sometimes you should [[MST3KMantra Really Just Relax]] when it comes to cartoon physics. |
| 55 | ** I think the weight is one of the handles folded up. |
| 56 | * Why does Stockman refer to Bradford using Mikey's nickname (Dogpound) but addresses Xever by his human name? |
| 57 | ** It may be an intentional slight. Dogpound is meaner to him than Fishface is. I can't recall 100%, but I think Montes only ever threatens him if he has something to gain, whereas Bradford is a jerk just because he's a jerk. Plus, Montes is more AxCrazy than Bradford is. |
| 58 | * Do those smoke bomb eggs allow the turtles to teleport? In their first appearance it seemed to be a joke that Mikey was just moving that fast when you couldn't see him but in later episodes we've seen them evade enemies who had them surrounded with no place to go that wouldn't involve leaving the smoke and in Legend of the Kuro Kabuto the turtles were pinned beneath a billboard unable to move. One smoke bomb egg later and they either magically teleported to safety, teleported Fishface and Stockman away or Fishface and Stockman got bored of standing literally on the Turtles chests and wandered off. |
| 59 | ** It's supposed to be cover to move. They've shown Mikey try to use it and running into something early on. It's just become an easy dues ex machina to get them out of tight spots, but it's not supposed to have actual teleportation powers. |
| 60 | * I'm not sure what's more ridiculous: that the Turtles (who are ''ninjas'', mind you) somehow thought that driving around in a subway car on wheels with a {{BFG}} mounted on top wouldn't get them pulled over, or make it easy for the Foot to follow them home, or something... or the fact that it actually doesn't! |
| 61 | ** It doesn't get them pulled over mostly for plot reasons but I bet even if a cop did see the vehicle they'd assume it was some kind of prop, not that someone was actually driving a tank through NYC. As for the Foot they already know the Turtles live in the sewers, the entrance for the vehicle is probably either far away from the lair or there are multiple exits and they all look the same to us. |
| 62 | * Casey and April really don't seem to care if every thug in New York knows who they are. April is always hanging around on patrol with the Turtles in her usual clothes, and Casey constantly uses his real name. |
| 63 | ** It's probably about the quality of their opponents. Half of their enemies there is no protection against. If the Krang and Foot don't know where they live already it's because they don't care. It's not like the Turtles who have an underground and nearly impossible to find lair. The common thugs are gonna have to hunt them down via facebook. Basically the people who they should be worried about should already know where to find them and the rest they just don't care. |
| 64 | * Why do the Kraang insist on piloting their battle suits? It seems that while Kraang are not a true hive mind they certainly have a very distinct heirarchy so having extra brains on the battle field isn't because they all get a say in what's happening. More importantly the Kraang designed the Foot Bots and Foot Bots are much, much more effective in combat than Kraang Battle Suits and that's armed with ninja weapons. One can only imagine if they carried laser pistols instead of bows and arrows. |
| 65 | ** A being that's just a brain is able to adjust and make critical thought actions better than any advanced robot. And it may just be a cultural "warrior" part of them, they prefer to personally battle. Shredder doesn't seem to like guns and such, he prefers traditional ninja weaponry, hence they were outfitted to fit his wants. |
| 66 | *** The Kraang are not really just brains. They resemble brains sure but have physical bodies and control the mechs with their arms so even if their brains do react faster than an advanced robot (a debatable point all things considered) it doesn't matter because it still needs to be transferred into motion. And they are clearly less effective than the Foot Bots. Why Shredder equips them as he does it likely a flavor choice, but it's one the Kraang likely wouldn't share. They could easily make their own Foot Bots and they have no problems with advanced weapons. |
| 67 | * Is Splinter supposed to have some kind of ninja magic wind attack in his fight with Shredder during the "The Invasion" or was that supposed to just be stylized? They seemed to have been paying a lot of attention to precisely where he struck Shredder but I don't think any amount of bad ass allows pressure points to work through steel armor, pressure points were used earlier (presumably) when Splinter fought Tiger Claw and the effect was vastly different but magical techniques in Ninja Turtles have historically been few and far between. I can only think of two (but I'm by no means a super fan). One in the original movie when they discover Splinter is alive through meditation and she who shall not be named from the show we've all forgotten. |
| 68 | ** Yes, they established he has some kind of ninja magic powers. |
| 69 | * What is it about mutagen that seems to automatically bestow human level skill? Take Season 3's ''The Croaking''. Those frogs were mutated in the episode ''Buried Secrets''. They've been human level intelligence for somewhere between a few days and a few month at the absolute most which the likely answer being less than a month. Yet they've got names a fairly functioning society complete with a dislike for humans that required what at that point would have been unmutated frogs to understand the situation they were in, they speak English. They are if not completely on par with the formally trained ninja they are still dozens of times better than beings who should still be mastering bipedal movement. This isn't the first time this has happened either. Slash instantly masters these things as well to the point of sneaking up on trained ninjas despite being a hulking brute. It doesn't happen every time though, ice cream kitty and the squirelnoids don't seem to get it. |
| 70 | ** I think the mutagen is more advanced than the ones used to create the turtles back in the day. |
| 71 | * Why don't the Turtles have guns, perhaps even a few large ones? First lasers don't seem to discharge like gun powder weapons so they could probably use them and maintain stealth. Second after the events of the first and second seasons they've definitely learned that there are things that ninja weapons either don't cut it against all (interdimensional portals, Krang Prime, Invisible Ships, and the Technodrone) and certainly situations that would be dealt with more easily or on more equal terms with them such as Tigerclaw. Splinter in this version is more pragmatic than dogmatic both about how much honor is necessary to preserve if it means you might not win a fight. His primary complaint about Donatello wanting to give up the staff entirely in exchange for a robot to fight in his stead was that it wasn't sufficiently battle tested. The turtles complained it was clumsy and noisy. But had he built something more on par with the Footbots presumably nobody would have complained. The same complaint applied to the Turtlemech. Not that it was a bad idea or forbidden by some code, just that it wasn't ready for a life or death scenario. (Which it wasn't) Finally in real life ninjas were using the technology of the time modern ninjas wouldn't have any moral compunction against modern weapons. And I'm not saying they should use them ''instead'' of their current weapons but in addition. I'll take a laser pistol over a ninja star all day and all night. |
| 72 | ** Could be that the Turtles can't wield guns because their fingers are too big to fit through the trigger guards. |
| 73 | * This might be an odd one but I'm curious nonetheless. Why does Shredder have fire jet things and why does he only ever use those for intimidation? |
| 74 | * Its confirmed that the Kraang share a hive mind, so why couldn't the Kraang kidnapped by Shredder "call" the others for help in '' Karai's Vendetta'' and ''The Pulverizer Returns'' or see through Raph's ruse in ''Plan 10''? |
| 75 | ** [[WebVideo/YugiohTheAbridgedSeries Because the writers hadn't though of it yet.]] In a more serious answer, it's possible the other Kraang didn't consider Shredder a threat to the Kraang entirety enough to call down a Kraang invasion on the foot castle just to rescue 1 kraang. After all, Kraang is skilled in many things, but the thing called stealth was way more the turtle's thing. As for Plan 10, perhaps they just got confused by the differing signals that was coming from what seemed like a normal kraang. |
| 76 | * Why is Shredder described as an AbusiveParents? He was training Karai to be Kunoichi after kidnapping her so it would be impossible for her not to get hurt every once in a while throughout the years. Its no different from how Splinter trains the turtles. |
| 77 | ** Well first off, Shredder kidnapped her as a baby. He lied to her for at least 15 years about her true heritage. None of this sounds like abusive parenting, but Shredder is abusive because of his demeanor and threats towards her. In Karai's intro, he threatened her and out his blades at her head just because she talked back to him. His demeanor towards her was cold and uncaring, him only showing any sign of 'loving' her once she mutated, which was HIS FAULT for HANGING HER over the mutagen and CUTTING the chain himself. When Karai discovered the truth? He locked her up? When she nearly escaped? He locked her up and shackled her. He feels like he owns Karai and add that to his callous attitude and being a total sociopath and you have a father who is absolutely horrible. Splinter may knock the boys silly on occasion, but usually it's when they absolutely deserve it and he shows them PLENTY of warmth and love, feelings that Shredder is incapable of feeling and displaying towards anyone. That is why he fully qualifies for AbusiveParents while Splinter qualifies for GoodParents. |
| 78 | * How does one tell the dfference between a female Kraang/Utrom and a male one, Kraang Prime is a '''[[{{Pun}} prime]]''' example of this, before season 4 when the Utrom Queen called Kraang Prime a "him" the fandom assumed he was female based of his voice (Everybody else before then just referred to Kraang Prime as "it" & "Kraang Prime"). Seriously, anyone can tell any species males from their females if they know what to look for. For all we know the Kraang/Utroms could just be a hermaphroditical race using gender pronouns for the convenience of Earthlings... Wait, what does that mean for April? |
| 79 | * Casey sometimes throws hockey pucks with dynamite sticks taped to them at the villains. Common sense indicates he taped the pucks and dynamite ahead of time, but how does he ignite them? |
| 80 | * If Donatello really wanted to upgrade his staff, he could go with the simplest option: a METAL staff, which at the very least wouldn't get broken all the time, and would be very effective against armored opponents like the Kraang. |
| 81 | ** A metal staff would be significantly heavier and would also be balanced differently (Donnie's staff is not one consistent thickness, thinner in the middle and wider at the ends). |
| 82 | *** But in the pilot Donnie states he's familiar with metallurgy and so he could most likely be able to make a staff balanced like his wooden one. |
| 83 | *** Aluminum in a proper shape would be stronger, and not much heavier than wood. |
| 84 | ** The strangest thing about that episode was that it ignored the fact that Donnie's staff already had a hidden blade in it. |
| 85 | *** Yeah, but the staff itself is still wooden and can be broken, which would just leave Donnie with what you'd roughly call a dagger in combat if that were to happen. |
| 86 | *** [[DoubleWeapon Or upgrade it with blades at both ends!]] |
| 87 | ** This is a bit HilariousInHindsight now that ''WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' came out and featured a version of Donnie that ''does'' have a metallic Bo staff (and with highly advanced technology!) |
| 88 | ** Arguably FridgeBrilliance in that Donnie actually does end up sticking with a bo staff/naginata throughout the series, and stops breaking them so often. The problem wasn't that it was a "stick" - as Splinter hinted early on, it was that Donnie didn't know how to use it effectively yet. Even in the Pilot, he demonstrates technical skill with his bo staff, but how often in Season 1 fights did he just literally whack enemies with it like a baseball bat? Of course it broke! As time goes by and Donnie becomes more skilled and competent in combat, he stops breaking them so often because he's learned how to use a bo staff ''effectively''. |
| 89 | * In "Cockroach Terminator", it's revealed that Raphael has a major fear of cockroaches, and from the reactions of his brothers they just now found out about it. The thing is, they live in the sewers, a veritable cockroach heaven. So how did they not know about Raph's fear for the last 15 years, and how did Raph not have a mental breakdown from being surrounded by cockroaches? |
| 90 | ** It might be very well how he developed that fear. Plus he reacted in a way some poeple would react to a small size roach. It's only when it was man-size did his fear grip him tightly. |
| 91 | * So, a mutant wasp accidentally gets its stinger caught in a wall and the floor, but the stinger gets yanked out when he stings a turtle? |
| 92 | ** Well, it is a ''parasitic'' wasp, that seems to have evolved to infect others with the virus that caused all the trouble. Maybe it released its stinger on purpose in order to infect him? |
| 93 | * In "The Invasion, Part 1", Irma drops her glasses and is unable to see the Turtles until she puts them back on. Then it's revealed she was really a robot being piloted by a Kraang. Why would a robot need glasses? |
| 94 | ** ...Maybe they made her really, ''really'' lifelike? |
| 95 | ** This one's easy. To seem as human as possible thus staying undercover easier. |
| 96 | ** It's actually quite simple. Kraang Sub-Prime had been having trouble with pretending to need glasses, so they designed the viewport to 'blur' unless he was using the glasses. The 'eyes' of Irma are connected to an HUD in the stomach. In an emergency, he can drop the HUD and just squint. |
| 97 | ** Kind of pointless by then since her head was revealed to be on a metal stick and detached from her body and the head rotated 360 degrees.] |
| 98 | * In "Panic in the Sewers", Leo realizes they're in over their heads while fighting Dogpound and orders Mikey to use a smoke bomb. Mikey fumbles and drops the smoke bomb. Raph calls him out for it [[{{Hypocrite}} and drops another smoke bomb down a storm drain/sewer grate]], Leo then takes out a third smoke bomb and uses it successfully. If Leo had his own smoke bomb, why didn't he just use it in the first place instead of waiting for Mikey and Raph? |
| 99 | ** Mikey had the most experience with them and so Leo thought he wouldn't need to use his own but then Mikey wasted it by accident. And then Raph got pissed and used his. That was when Leo got fed up and decided to use his own egg. |
| 100 | * In "The Arena of Carnage" the turtles get one part of the black hole generator. Than they state their goal to find the next part. Why? If they just destroy the part they have (throwing it into a star or something like that) the whole thing would be useless for the Triceratons anyway. |
| 101 | ** It's possible that the Ticeratons are advanced enough that they can create the other parts as long as they have some sort of blueprint in the form of one of the parts. Either that, or it's to delay them as long as possible. |
| 102 | *** Indeed, in "Trans Dimensional Turtles", Donatello says just that. |
| 103 | * In "Trans Dimensional Turtles", how can [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 Kraang]] and Kraang Sub-Prime be cousins when they come from two different Dimension Xs? |
| 104 | ** Since it was a cross over, let's just chalk it up as non-canon. |
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| 108 | * So, episode 3 had everybody busting their humps trying to get a video of the Turtles fighting the Kraang that is on a cell phone. A CELL PHONE. This isn't the 80s anymore, it's not like it was a video tape or even a flash drive, it was a CELL PHONE VIDEO. Why didn't the guy just upload the video online someplace even if he DID want to make money off of it and avoid being mutated into a hideous monster? Answer: because then there'd be no episode. |
| 109 | ** To be fair, the man is not the brightest human in New York. Insulting a life-sized reptile with sharp and dangerous weapons and Martial Art skills? If these were [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage another type of turtles]], the man would be ''dead'' right about now. |
| 110 | ** Because the moment he puts it online, he loses any money he'd receive from the footage as it's now in the public domain, and there would be nothing stopping people from ripping the video from the web - Look at the people uploading other people's work to Website/{{YouTube}}, for example - and that footage would be worth a hell of a lot to news reporters. ''Not'' uploading it is just about the smartest thing he did. |
| 111 | *** He specifically mentions this being the reason actually. Although why he couldn't save it to another media isn't explained, other than possibly he wasn't smart enough to think about it. |
| 112 | * Why did Mikey keep saying that the robots had brain-things in their chests? The brains were in their ''stomachs'', not their chests. Is Mikey confused about the difference between a chest and stomach, or was this just a mistake in the script? |
| 113 | ** It's in their torso, which encompasses both the stomach ''and'' the chest, but you're probably just over-thinking it. |
| 114 | *** It is ''Mikey'' we're talking about. Not exactly a master of anatomy. |
| 115 | ** Also, Mikey was more than a little freaked out, and not likely to bother with anatomy. |
| 116 | * What happened to Metalhead after Donnie broke him? They didn't just leave him there in the warehouse for the Kraang or anyone else to find, did they? |
| 117 | ** The Pulverizer shows they took him back to the lair. |
| 118 | * Also from ''Metalhead'', when the Kraang took control of the robot, how come the Turtles kept attacking the invulnerable robot and not the squishy completely-exposed brain monster sitting atop the robot's head? |
| 119 | ** Same reason they don't just go all stab-happy on the chewy center of the humanoid Kraang 'bots, or on the various monsters they fight. Censors won't allow it. |
| 120 | *** Several times the robots have been bisected by bladed weapons straight through the housing section (it happens in the opening credits, even) and the Kraang emerge completely unharmed. Maybe their alien physiology makes blades go right through them, like trying to cut soup? |
| 121 | *** Several shots show them actually ''juuuuust'' avoid cutting through the actual Kraang brain by a hair. |
| 122 | * In "The Gauntlet" how did nobody notice Pete? He's a giant Pigeon Man in broad daylight! He crashed into a bank window with people inside for [[{{Pun}} Pete's]] sake! |
| 123 | ** UnusuallyUninterestingSight, maybe? New York ''is'' a City Of Weirdos, after all. |
| 124 | ** I'm a bit more confused when April stepped out of the bank. Pete was still there and the two of them just stood there then Pete flew away. Why didn't he just give April her father's message. Also, since Pete is perfectly capable of talking, why didn't he just tell April he only wanted to give her the message and had no intention of hurting her? |
| 125 | *** Pete's a bit of a [[{{Pun}} Bird brain]]? |
| 126 | * How did Bradford and Montes mutate into a dog and fish when the last animal like beings they came into contact with were the turtles? |
| 127 | ** They are both shown touching a dog and a fish earlier. The dog bit Bradford, so some of its DNA could have gotten into his bloodstream. As for Montes, he probably bought that fish so he could eat it and would have been touching it a lot. Also, we know now that the Kraang have been trying to modify their mutagen, so its also possible that the ooze Bradford and Montes got covered with would work somewhat differently than it has before. |
| 128 | ** The turtles are mutants, not animals. Maybe the mutagen doesn't react to something that already mutated. Alternatively, since the turtles are somewhat human, maybe they are too similar to actual humans to count as the last "animal" they touched. |
| 129 | * Where did Dogpound get the tape to gag April with in "Panic in the Sewer". |
| 130 | ** And how did April get the tape off all by herself? |
| 131 | *** Maybe the tape (and the rope) were already in the van. As for how she got it off by herself...Um, ninja magic? |
| 132 | * Bradford is a world famous martial artist, does the world know he turned into a dogman or at least disappeared? Like I'm pretty sure our world would notice if Chuck Norris disappeared. |
| 133 | ** It's pretty likely, but the writers probably wouldn't bring it up unless it was an important detail or led somewhere. The show focuses on the turtles and the villains they fight, not really anyone else. |
| 134 | ** Also he could simply be pulling a whole "No public appearances" stint. We don't know how much press he really got to begin with, and with him having known internet out reach, the only thing stopping him from just being an online identity would be how over sized his fingers are for a keyboard |
| 135 | ** Not to mention, he was already an active Foot ninja. He might have taken 'extended sabbaticals' already, so him not making public appearances might not be out of character. |
| 136 | * How was Falco able to beat Leo, Mikey and Raph? I can see how being psychic would allow him to predict their attacks and evade better but how did a scientist with (presumably) no martial arts training suddenly get the strength, speed and skills to fight back? |
| 137 | ** Maybe he got some of Rockwell's simian... strength. |
| 138 | ** Or he got it from the Turtles' brains. |
| 139 | ** The theory the show seems to put forth is that if I can see your moves ahead of time I don't need to be stronger or more skilled. One can argue he might have been too slow but it seems but the Turtles (as a whole) fight a bit flashy and he was using really simple moves. The combination of overconfident flashy Turtles and ultra simple but effective moves was enough. |
| 140 | * Wait, April sleeps with the headband and pony-tail still on? |
| 141 | ** This is uncommon? |
| 142 | ** Seconded. Lots of people bind their hair in some fashion when going to bed, for neatness or comfort or both. |
| 143 | ** Meta-wise, it's part of her CGI model. They would have to recreate her head model entirely to remove them (which would also involve changing her hair movements, etc), and that's expensive and not worth it cost-wise for the occasional scene of her sleeping etc. We didn't see the Turtles sans masks until Hack and Slash, and that was only done because it was an important plot point. |
| 144 | * In "ITHNIBS" The turtles are upset about being grounded for a week, this is after spending 15 years in the sewers, what is one more week going to do? |
| 145 | ** They're teenagers. Who finally got privileges to visit the outside world after a lifetime of rigid training in ninjitsu. Wouldn't you be upset if that joy was yanked away from you? |
| 146 | ** Moreover, the Pilot shows them ''begging'' to go topside, and it sounded like it wasn't the first time they'd asked, either. They'd probably been anxious to do so for awhile, so aren't happy with having the privilege taken away now. |
| 147 | ** Personaly, I'm a bit more confused as to why Splinter punished them in the first place. What exactly is wrong with skateboarding in the lair anyway? |
| 148 | *** It's basically the same as skateboarding in the house on the surface, very dangerous to others. And more unnecessary as they have mile of interesting obstacles in the tunnels to skate on. |
| 149 | ** Okay, I agree that skating in the lair is the same as skating in a house and the turtles could've picked another place to skate, but as long as we're talking about danger, why was skateboarding in the lair dangerous? Because Mikey crashed into his brothers (and the ramp fell), but why did Mikey crash into his brothers? Because they stood up when they were supposed to be on the ground for Mikey to jump over. Why did the other stand up? Because Splinter yelled at them. Really, it seems like he was punishing them for something that was his fault especially since he never explained what they did wrong. Also, another thing that came to mind, skateboarding is dangerous but swinging ninja weapons at each other isn't? Especially since this time all 4 turtles have some sort of blade. There's no need to worry about Leo, but given Raph's anger, Don's [[ButtMonkey bad luck]], and Mikey's lack of brains, it's a miracle that no one's been severly injured during their training/sparring sessions. |
| 150 | *** Personally I think they were grounded because they tried to get out of being punished. |
| 151 | ** What confused me most about the episode was why they were so tired after sneaking out. Don't they go out ''every'' night, and are just fine afterwards? Did the fight with Stockman really last so much longer than the fights they get into all the time? |
| 152 | *** There's that longer fight theory of yours and if I'm not mistaken, this was the first time they lost against anybody (I'm not counting their fight against the Kraang in the first episode since as Splinter pointed out, up until that point, the turtles were taught to fight as individuals, rather than a team) which had to severely deplete them of energy. |
| 153 | *** IIRC, they're tired after the ''first'' fight with Stockman, which is the one where they beat him. Though I think Leo does make a comment about it being 2 AM when they get home, so maybe they did just stay out longer than they normally do. |
| 154 | ** You're right, they were. I guess that answers that, although I noticed something else. When Stockman powers up his armor, Mikey tries throwing pizza at him, but it doesn't work because there's a windshield covering up the window Stockman's looking through. At the end, Mikey shoves a beehive into Stockman's face. What happened to the windshield? |
| 155 | *** I thought the beehive broke it. |
| 156 | * So the scene with April and Ms. Cambell in school brings up a question: where is everybody, namely the teachers, other school employees (like a janitor), and the other students? Before anybody points out that it probably occurred before or after school, there should still be some people around. On a minor note, how come the trophy case only broke when Ms. Cambell hit it? It should've broke when she tossed April onto the glass. |
| 157 | ** Campbell was there to abduct April. She probably arranged for witnesses to be elsewhere. In the case of the trophy case (...) Ms. Campbell probably didn't throw April hard enough to break the case on purpose. Campbell wanted April alive, and would ''try'' to use minimal force to subdue her before going all out. |
| 158 | * In TCRI, why was Mikey so hesitant to wake up Leatherhead? He's his best friend. Why be so afraid? |
| 159 | ** Because they lost the power cell he trusted them with. |
| 160 | ** Seriously? You saw what happened when they woke him up. |
| 161 | * A very minor one, but why did Splinter ask the turtles if their infiltration into TCRI was successful? The disappointed looks on their faces should've been enough to tell him that something was wrong. |
| 162 | ** He wanted to be sure. The Turtles could have stopped the portal but had casualties. Splinter's likely no stranger to a mission going as planned but someone is lost along the way. |
| 163 | * In episode 4, Bradford leaves Mikey as bait. Initially I thought the plan was to get the other turtles to try and save him, and then capture the entire bunch. But instead Bradford lets them escape and follows them to their lair, which makes no sense at all.He's seen face to face with Michelangelo multiple times, what stopped him from following him back then, without uncovering his evilness and with a quarter of a chance of being noticed? |
| 164 | ** They're not just after the turtles- Shredder wants to kill Splinter as well. Bradford was probably hoping to take them all out at once and impress his master. |
| 165 | * Considering that two seconds ago the turtles had finally defeated Bradford and Montes in a clean fight by using combination attacks instead of attacking one after the other. Why against Shredder did they resort to the one after the other tactics that hadn't been enough to put down Bradford or Montes separately let alone together? Shredder is clearly enough better than them that it would rapidly have turned into a "stop hitting yourself" situation but they didn't even TRY what had just been proven to be there most effective technique against superior fighters. |
| 166 | ** The one-on-one defeats seemed to demonstrate to them that Shredder was so powerful that even all together, they probably wouldn't beat him. They actually seem to have a decent gauge on what they can do, and what's too much for them, even in this episode where it's a plot point that they were getting cocky and arrogant in their abilities. So when he took them down so easily individually, they sort of went, "Yeah, we're not winning this" and booked it. |
| 167 | * In ''Enemy of my Enemy'', Raph states that for once they'll know where Shredder will be ahead of time and suggests they launch a sneak attack. Why exactly do they need to know where Shredder will be? They know where his hideout is since '[[DamselInDistress April]] managed to sneak both inside and out. Even if they can't defeat Shredder in a fight yet, they should be able to launch a sneak attack anytime. |
| 168 | ** It's Shredder's hideout, where all of the goons and troops stay. It would be like trying to fight a queen bee in the middle of the hive. |
| 169 | * Does Snakeweed's reappearance in "New Girl In Town" feel jarring to anyone? The turtles never act surprised to see him standing, and the last time they saw him they seemed pretty sure he was dead. |
| 170 | ** Note that the episode began with the turtles chasing Snakeweed, so the whole "OMG! How can you be alive? We already destroyed you!" thing probably occured sometime before the episode began. |
| 171 | * How is the Shellraiser still able to operate without the Kraang power cell? |
| 172 | ** Donnie likely refitted it to operate on a different source of power. What, though, is the question. Do they siphon gasoline from somewhere? A special electric generator Donnie built? |
| 173 | * What were the writers' intentions with Pulverizer/Timothy? Are we supposed to sympathize that he was {{TooDumbToLive}} and got himself mutated into a blob? |
| 174 | ** It was an effective way to show that the stakes are for real -- being a loveable doofus won't protect you from negative, permanent consequences in this world. It's the same as when a show kills off a character for effect, but softened up for the Saturday morning cartoon crowd. |
| 175 | * In "TCRI", Dimension X is shown to have an atmosphere vastly different to Earth's, and that the Kraang wish to change Earth's atmosphere to match it so they can live there. Presumabley, the Kraang droids have some form of life support. Yet, several times, the Kraang have been ejected from their suits, and shown having no visible aversion to Earth's atmosphere. |
| 176 | ** It probably takes them a little while to succumb to the effects of our atmosphere. We never see them for more than a few seconds after they scuttle off, and that's probably not long enough for them to drop dead. |
| 177 | ** The Krang Droids don't appear to have any life support. My guess is that they can breathe in Earth's atmosphere just because their environment is toxic to us doesn't necessarily mean that the opposite is true. The fact that they want to change the environment could just be about wanting to be more comfortable or there could be a limit to how long they can survive our atmosphere or there could just be other things we haven't seen yet that live in Dimension X. |
| 178 | ** In Karai's Vendetta they can swim in the east river without holding there breath while in Return to New York they were taken down by a nauseous chemical so there is some evidence that Kraang droids have life support equipment they just don't deploy such equipment consistently or that it's more easily defeatable than it probably should be. |
| 179 | * My confusion is on the whole switching of weapons thing. Assuming that it took then time to master their current weapons, why would you send them out using weapons they are not used to. I get the whole idea of using basic tools as a weapon, but even then it feels like the worse timing for this lesson when the something like this should have been taught the stakes were not so high. |
| 180 | ** I asked the same question and as someone with (albeit limited) martial arts experience I know that all three arts I took (hey I moved and both young me and my parents figured they were mostly interchangible. Which at low levels they are but that's not the point) there is a progression of weapons. Usually starting with the staff. The turtles might not have been experts with the other weapons and were likely naturally drawn to the weapon they could use best they should at worst be competent with every weapon save perhaps the double katana. I'm willing to buy that Leo is the only one who learned what most seem to agree is a flashy but not particularly effective style. The thing is they were all dangerously inept with the other weapons. I guess part of the issue is it's really difficult to show someone who is nerfed but far from harmless but as they later demonstrated to various degrees good enough is good enough. Trust me a broom is NOT a bo staff. A bow is ideally equally weighted at both ends. A broom is closer to a hammer or an axe (the weight ratio is still wrong and would through you off but you'd be better off than working on the principles of a weapon with equal weighting) really the entire plot focuses on the crazy idea that not only were all the turtles not initially trained the same way and then allowed to follow their own "path". It also asks you to believe they couldn't makeshift the way they did later earlier or in the case of Donny and Leo just figure it out. Chalk it up to to people who don't know. |
| 181 | *** I agree. 15 years of martial arts training, I would assume they would at least be competent with many different weapons, but especially the ones favored by their brothers. I mean, it never occured to them in battle they may lose their own weapon and have to pick up another, especially one another Turtle had? Starting to train on other weapons after all that time seemed way late. Story and visual-wise, it's easier to get the point across that they're uncomfortable using new weapons easier showing them being incredibly incompetent (not to mention RuleOfFunny) vice merely mediocre. |
| 182 | ** I was confused why they didn't simply pick up the Foot Clan weapons in the last battle. |
| 183 | ** The main problem was that the turtles were using their new weapons like their original ones. Donnie presses the sai hilts together to emulate his staff, Leo and Mikey both have problems with how big the new weapons are compared to their old ones and as for Raph, nunchucks are just hard to use (or just seem hard, which is good enough for a cartoon). |
| 184 | *** This is more random trivia than an "answer", but nunchucks are apparently extremely complex to use - which makes sense, given, you know, the weighted chunks flying all over the place (even ''without'' learning how to throw them, use them to "catch" weapons or limbs, etc...). It's actually an element of HiddenDepths for Mikey in every TMNT iteration - he's the {{Cloudcuckoolander}} and the laziest and most unfocused turtle, but he's the one who uses the most [[BrilliantButLazy difficult and complicated weapons]] - ''two'' of them. But ''with'' all that, I'd at least say it makes sense that Raph can't use Mikey's nunchucks without whacking himself in the head. Even the aforementioned 2003 episode where they swap weapons, Mikey actually keeps his chucks (he uses metal pipes in lieu of them) - because learning how to competently use nunchucks is apparently ''ridiculously'' hard, and it probably would have come off as unrealistic even by TMNT standards for all four to be able to just pick them up and use them. Leo ''maybe''. But not Raph or Donnie. |
| 185 | ** The weapons thing might be a MythologyGag, or at least a reference, as the 2003 series (itself based closely on the original Mirage comics) had an episode where the Turtles had to swap weapons to defeat a robot that could mimic their individual fighting styles. In that episode, everyone adapts to the new weapons fairly easily (Donnie fumbles a bit with Raph's sais, but is still able to use them). But those Turtles were in general [[AdaptationalBadass far more skilled]] than in [[AdaptationalWimp this iteration]]. As the 2012 Turtles are generally portrayed as less mature than in previous iterations and still mastering ninjutsu in the first season, it makes sense that they struggle more with swapping out weapons. |
| 186 | *** Moreover, while the 2012 Turtles indeed trained in ninjutsu for 15 years, Splinter seemed to miss some major gaps in that training. As of the Pilot, they had no clue how to fight as a team or coordinate themselves to not run into each other or get in each other's way - apparently in 15 years Splinter had never thought of that (even more surprising in that while the dojo is large, they seem to do things like hold simultaneous sparring matches that you'd think would give them ''some'' skill at staying out of each other's way, but anyway...). While he apparently did do ''some'' weapons cross-training with them, such as teaching them all bow and arrow and how to use shurikens, he might have just never considered training them on ''each other's'' weapons before that episode. |
| 187 | * People keep saying that Pulverizer turned into a pile of slime because he didn't touch anything nor did anything touch him. But that's not true, the turtles have touched him a few times and in the first episode, a rat touched Splinter's shoe, not his skin, but he was mutated into Splinter anyway. So what gives? Albeit I know there's still the "mutant animals probably don't count" theory in Montes and Bradford's entries, but I thought it was still worth pointint out. |
| 188 | ** I still say there was something wrong with that batch of mutagen that made work differently. |
| 189 | ** Maybe Splinter wasn't wearing socks and the rat touched his ankle. |
| 190 | ** The time between the touching might also be a factor, as well as lingering DNA. Considering Timothy was wearing a full-body outfit and likely never touched another non-human creature recently, the mutagen had nothing to work with. |
| 191 | ** ... maybe Timothy had jello for lunch? |
| 192 | ** I think the mutagen's effects are supposed to be somewhat random. Outside elements(like animal DNA) can influence mutations but that doesn't mean they always will. Timothy turned into a blob because of bad luck. |
| 193 | * How is it neither Shredder nor his minions have figured out that the trick to using the mutagen is touching an animal first? Don't Bradford and Montes remember touching a dog and a fish? |
| 194 | ** It could be that the Shredder is too stubborn to listen to Bradford and Montes, the same way he was too stubborn to listen to Karai about the Kraang at first. |
| 195 | * So, parasitic wasp. (The one Donnie looked up) Is that a real thing? That there's actually a species of wasp that can brainwash other bugs with a sting? |
| 196 | ** This is an odd case of reality being weirder than fiction. There's a real wasp that lays its eggs ''inside'' other insects while also transmitting a virus that weakens the host's immune system and alters its cells to make it more egg-friendly. Pretty similar to the episode, except for the "inside the host" part, which a) would be less child-friendly and b) fatal to poor Leonardo when the eggs hatched, as happened in the episode. Also, there do exist parasites that alter the behavior of their hosts in ways that promote the parasite being spread. |
| 197 | *** No, I still find that more believable than mind-control. |
| 198 | *** Don't think of it as "mind control", think of it as "manipulating biological triggers to influence the subject's behavior". Which, again, happens in nature more often than is pleasant to think about. |
| 199 | * I get how Donnie hooked up a camera and saw to the roach, but how was he controlling the roach's actual movements? |
| 200 | ** Maybe he had a way to 'hack' into the roach's nervous system and control it that way? Something along the lines of a microchip in its brain. |
| 201 | * In the SeasonFinale, why would the turtles have Metalhead shoot up all the Kraang in the lobby, if they were just going to sneak through the roof? |
| 202 | ** Distraction probably. Make a loud entrance at the bottom while sneaking in through the top. |
| 203 | * In the Season 1 finale, Splinter's flashback shows that he was partially stuck under debris and trapped by fire while Shredder escaped, so how is it that Shredder's the one who got his face burned? |
| 204 | ** The building was completely engulfed by that point, so it's probable that Shredder was burned prior to Splinter getting trapped. Besides, we only know that Splinter's ''face'' was unburnt. The rest of him might have been a mess. |
| 205 | ** This is answered in the Season 3 Episode "Tales of the Yokai." Right after Oroku Saki kills Tang Shen inadvertently, a piece of flaming wood falls from the ceiling and strikes his face. |
| 206 | * In one episode, Don is barely able to fight the Krang because his only weapon is a "stick". I see two problems with this: 1, he's never had a problem in any other episodes (except the first, but those were special circumstances) and 2, the staff is also a naginata, so it has a blade! So,what ? |
| 207 | ** I assumed after breaking his bo several times and the whole Metalhead thing blowing up in his face, he decided to reinforce his bo with something to make it sturdier, or decided to use a different, sturdier wood. |
| 208 | * In Cockroach Terminator, After the Roach is liquefied, there is a an egg With a mutant embryo in it. This would imply that, Don, in all his intellegence, either A) failed to notice the cockroach he was using was pregnant, which seems to be a massive oversight, or B) knew that the roach was pregnant and he just didn't care, which seems very much out of line with his characterization. Either way, what the hell, Donny? |
| 209 | ** It's possible that the egg was a result of the mutagen and that the cockroach was not pregnant at all beforehand. Many real-life mutagens are also carcinogens (they cause cancer), so perhaps the egg was just some sort of bizarre, living tumor? |
| 210 | * Rewatching Showdown Part I. How does Shredder not know where the lair is? Karai, some Footbots and and a couple mousers are waiting what appears to be a very short distance from the lair. For Shredder not to have figured it out at this point it requires the Mousers not to have some sort of GPS installed that would allow him to just ask Stockman since they accompany Mr. O'Neil back to the lair. Whatever brainwashing was done to Mr. O'Neil to prevent him from remembering and telling anybody while he was still under his control, and for Shredder to be utterly unaware of (or completely not care because he was so certain of his victory) these limitations so he didn't just tell Karai to take the extra five minutes to deliver the message personally or at least follow Mr. O'Neil far enough to be able to see the lair. |
| 211 | * Why does Timothy/Pulverizer's parents (if he has any parental guardian) ask about his whereabouts? When Timothy first saw the turtles, he was in his house, and it's safe to assume he's not adult, meaning that he would be living with some sort of legal guardian. How come when he got mutated and just "disappeared" to the sewers that no one who looking for him? At this point he has been missing for several months, so a family member should be trying to locate him. |
| 212 | ** Also what about Donnie's promise to turn Timothy back? In season one, he was given responsibility for what happens to him and he got mutated into a pile of blob. Then in season two, he was frozen solid into ice, so how come Donnie didn't try to create or find a substance that can reverse his mutation. It's made even worse by the fact that after season two, the turtles, especially Donnie seem to have forgotten about him and aren't even concerned about the fact that a random kid might be deemed missing by his loved ones and that they might be looking for him. |
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| 216 | * How can Slash fight so well and be so agile? He was just mutated earlier in the day and never received any formal training. I mean, it's possible Raph showed him some stuff but if that's the case then he's downright ''scary'' for a novice. I can understand him having an advantage because he's bigger and stronger but if that's all it takes shouldn't Dogpound have wiped the floor with The Turtles every time? |
| 217 | ** I was re-watching this episode the other day and he mentions that he watched Raph and learned from him. |
| 218 | *** [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage Mythology Gag]], anyone? |
| 219 | *** Slash snuck up on the turtles instead of engaging them in direct combat, at least for 2 of them and unlike Dogpound, Slash has more knowledge about Raph's fighting style. His impressive speed (by turtle standards) could be the closest he has to a mutant super power. |
| 220 | *** See, the difference here is that in the original version, Splinter didn't just ''watch'' Yoshi train, he ''mimicked'' him. There's a difference. |
| 221 | *** This. Watching kung-fu movies does not make you competent in martial arts. You need to develop muscle memory by constantly practicing the movements. Spike was shown just a mostly lethargic regular turtle (or tortoise? I could swear he was supposed to be a tortoise but they kept calling him a turtle after his mutation). You could chalk it up to the mutagen giving him some Matrix-style IKnowKungFu muscle memory I suppose. |
| 222 | ** How did Slash mutate into a humanoid turtle when he never touched a human? |
| 223 | *** While mutagen has shown to be at least a little random the best guess here is that humanoid turtles qualify more as humanoid and less as turtle for the purpose of what mutation you will get. |
| 224 | *** It isn't too unlikely to assume that April or even Timothy (who I could totally see Spike biting) touched him at some point. |
| 225 | *** He is also much more turtle than human, so it's very possible that one of the TMNT affected his mutation, and as they're only partially human the human DNA might have had an even lesser affect on Slash. |
| 226 | * Did they just forget about all the mutagen canisters scattered throughout the city? |
| 227 | ** That plotline has only been dropped for about 2 episodes. I'm sure they'll be back on-track soon enough. |
| 228 | ** One of the preview clips for the episode "Mazes and Mutants" actually has Splinter remind the Turtles that they still need to recover all of the lost mutagen canisters. |
| 229 | ** There doesn't have to be an adventure connected with every single mutagen canister. A lot of them could have been gathered offscreen without any fuss. |
| 230 | * Why is Razar so much less dangerous than Dogpound or Bradford? Bradford the turtles defeated precisely once and it was a two on one scenario and that was after several fights. Dogpound seemed to be a handful for any single turtle but not the same threat as Bradford and Razar. . .why upgrade him to a more dangerous form if he's going to be at best the same threat and seemingly much less of a threat? |
| 231 | ** He's only been in a few episodes so far, and was kicking Mikey around pretty well in his début. Splinter is consistently shown to be waaaay out of everyone's league but Shredder. But all the villains seem to have fighting prowess as the plot demands anyway, so it'll probably remain inconsistent. |
| 232 | ** Story-wise, he didn't upgrade on purpose, so it wasn't like he was trying to get a better form. If you're asking from a meta standpoint, because it's another toy they can sell, of course. |
| 233 | ** Another way to look at it is that it's not that Bradford has become less dangerous, it's that the turtles were vastly improving over the course of the series. In the episode in which Razar made his début, Dogpound was already having a bit of trouble against a very handicapped Mikey (due to the shellachne... thing...). |
| 234 | * At the end of "Metalhead Rewired", how could Metalhead's head have landed with the Turtles, when he exploded AFTER the portal closed? |
| 235 | * Does Malachi the Sparrow Wizard have the ability to read minds? The episode suggests that he created the illusion and he hinted at the dragon prior to Leatherheads appearance. However there is no way he's ever seen Leatherhead so he had to pull that from the turtles themselves. |
| 236 | * Are the turtles not at all concerned that Malachi knows where the lair is? |
| 237 | ** Well, it's made pretty clear that Malachi is not a bad mutant. In fact, he has a good heart, leaving the turtles hints on how to get through the game and stuff like that. Besides, he never really meant to hurt them in the first place. He was just a lonely kid wanting to play a game. So all in all there is not really any reason why they should be concerned about him knowing where their hideout is. He surely wouldn't go around telling everyone he encounters. Sure, there's no guarantee if the Kraang would capture and torture him for the information but I'd guess the turtles and creators didn't thought about it that much. |
| 238 | ** Well, the Kraang probably don't know about Malachi, and even if they did, it's unlikely that they are aware of his connection to the Turtles. If they don't know that he knows where the lair is, there's no point in catching Malachi and interrogating him. |
| 239 | * Why didn't they recruit Malachi? He's a mutant who presumably has no home to return to. It's a security risk because he knows the location of the lair, is incredibly powerful (the amount of time it would take Razar, Fishface and Karai to realize they are fighting fake ninja turtles is at least twice as long as it would take real, presumably invisible, ninja turtles to beat them into submission and his mutant power also means he's effectively a walking training simulator. Sure they need to get him off fantasy setting DND and instead get him hooked on that Voltron Expy they watch complete with monster of the week but he's entirely too valuable to the turtles and too dangerous to have wandering about unchecked (the Foot know they live in the sewers, even if they aren't actively searching constantly presumably they'd violently question any mutant they found wandering the sewers.) |
| 240 | ** You'd think that they would take him in just to keep him safe. He seemed like a pretty naive dude, even if he was really powerful, and they should all remember what happened the last time that they let a non-combatant jump into the world of mutants and monsters. |
| 241 | * Why did it take until season 2 for Donnie to come up with the idea of a retro-mutagen when there were plenty of mutants who should've been turned back in season 1? Dr. Rockwell, an innocent scientist mutated into a psychic monkey, Bradford and Montes became more dangerous as Dogpound, or Rahzar, and Fishface, Snakeweed and Spider Bytez would've also been less dangerous as humans, and while not necessary he could've used retro mutagen to allow Splinter to relive life as a human again, (if only temporary, like the first cartoon). Granted, he did vow to turn Pulverizer back to normal, but no mention of retro-mutagen was made yet. |
| 242 | ** Ignoring that Bradford and Montes have better track records than Dogpound and Fishface it simply wasn't a priority for the Turtles until the mutant problem started getting out of hand and Timothy and Mr. O'Neil were mutated. It's also possible Donnie quickly considered the risk/reward ratio and for all the good retro-mutagen can do for humans mutated it would essentially kill the Turtles. They aren't humans turned into hideous freaks. They are pet store turtles turned very nearly human. |
| 243 | * How did Baxter know the Turtles had retromutagen with them? Even when he was listening, they never said what it was. |
| 244 | ** Maybe he could smell the mutagen? Flies have a pretty good sense of smell, and Baxter could probably make a fairly accurate guess as to the composition of retromutagen. If you follow the logic of "Retromutagen is likely made of materials X, Y, and Z. That thing the Turtles are carrying smells like X, Y, and Z. Therefore, the thing they are carrying is likely retromutagen". |
| 245 | ** Also, AccidentalMisnaming aside, how was Raph able to identify the mutant fly as Stockman? |
| 246 | *** Not that it carried through for most of the audience but the implication was that he still spoke like Stockman. Raph recognizes him immediately after he started getting frustrated with the turtles. |
| 247 | *** Stockman was still dressed in his signature outfit. Also, they last saw him tooling around with mutagen. So seeing a mutant dressed like Stockman has an obvious answer, and it isn't that someone stole Stockman's clothes. |
| 248 | * They claimed the canister only contained enough retromutagen for one mutant, yet only one drop of it was able to turn Kirby back. If just one drop of the retromutagen could do the job, there should have been enough of it in the canister for everybody who was fighting over it. |
| 249 | ** Donatello is intelligent not omniscient. For reasons that are largely contrived for the plot he grossly under estimated how potent the mutagen would be. Either that or for some reason it was abnormally effective for Mr. O'Neal. There currently doesn't seem to be any reason to think that April's human DNA didn't come from Kirby. Perhaps they share some things we don't even know about yet. |
| 250 | *** It was their first time using the retro-mutagen, so Donnie probably didn't know that one drop would've been enough. |
| 251 | * So right now I'm rewatching the entire series and just got to the episode "Slash and Destroy". It's a minor thing but I noticed something in the beginning that bugs me. Back in "Parasitica", in order to get Leo's attention when he was under the control of the wasp Mikey ruined one of his comic books. The episode ends with Leo getting very angry with his little brother and attacking him. So now in "Slash and Destroy" Mikey once again knows no boundaries and ruins one of Raph's magazines. But this time Leo surprisingly takes Mikey's side telling Raph to calm down and that, just like Splinter told him, material possessions are fleeting and not that important. So... where does that suddenly come from? |
| 252 | ** That was very intentional I thought. It was showing Leo had matured since then. |
| 253 | ** The ideology of material possessions not being important aside, it's still not exactly wise to wipe one's ass with your sibling's belongings. It could simply be that Leo's attitude depended on how the possession was damaged or soiled. |
| 254 | * Why didn't Mikey get zombified when he ate Pizza Face's pizza? |
| 255 | ** Depending whether you believe ItWasAllJustADream or not, you can chalk it up to some kind of Dream Immunity (after all, dreams don't have to be logical or consistent), or if you believe the stinger is real and all shown actually happened, Mikey does make a point to mention his "iron stomach" which apparently makes him immune. Or perhaps it will become a plot point later if Pizzaface returns. |
| 256 | ** All he ate was pizza face and his pizza-breath, not the pizzas intended to be used as a form of mind control........[[WildMassGuessing or something like that]]. Whole story barely made sense anyway. |
| 257 | * Regarding the newest episode "Pizza Face": Sorry if this is a redundant question but was it actually [[ItWasAllJustADream All Just a Dream]] or wasn't it? First time I watched the episode I immediately thought everything was real because at the end we see the last slice left of Pizza Face laughing and even outright stating that it was clearly not a dream. However, in quite a few forums I saw people claiming it to be really just a dream and to have never happened. So... why would they think that? Or am I overseeing something? Was this confusion probably done intentionally? |
| 258 | ** It's meant to be ambiguous. The episode is overly silly by it's normal standards, so I would lean towards it being a dream. We never know if Mikey "saw" the opening with April and Irma with the pizza driver (or the other scenes he's not in), so that does leave it open. Possibly the writers meant it as a dream episode so they could get really over the top, but left the ambiguity at the end in case they wanted to revisit Pizzaface in the future. |
| 259 | * Are the Kraang and Foot still working together? The fact that the Foot didn't know about the earthquakes caused by the Kraathatragons and Donnie's speculation about Shredder hunting the Kraang in ''Newtralized'' hints that their partnership is over. |
| 260 | ** I get the feeling that they still have an informal noninterference guarantee going between the two since we haven't seen the foot and the kraang fight yet, but after Chrome Dome turned on them, and Shredder didn't want to work with them after the loss of their mutagen containers, I don't think they're formally working together like they were in the season finale anymore. |
| 261 | ** As of the Season 2 Finale the Kraang and the Foot are working together. It's possible that their alliance was renewed after Karai was mutated and Shredder needed their expertise. |
| 262 | * Why did Tigerclaw retreat after he defeated Karai? You'd think he'd continue his attack on the turtles what with mikey down and his revenge close at hand, so why did he leave? |
| 263 | ** His priority changed when Karai turned on him. He felt it was more important to bring the traitor back to his master than continue a battle he may not win at that point. |
| 264 | * It's just a visual gag I know (and possibly just a dream sequence anyway), but what the hell was with that pizza Mikey made in Pizzaface? There was a tin can and a ''dead rat'' in it. Beyond being disgusting and inedible, isn't that kind of creepy to eat one of your father's cousins? |
| 265 | ** If it is a dream I would just chalk it up to dreams being weird and inconsistent, that the rat wasn't actually there but was for a brief moment. If it wasn't a dream and it was all real I think it's valid to assume they fell in without Mikey noticing, he's not the brightest after all. |
| 266 | * So what exactly about Splinter showing Karai the pictures of her mother and her as a baby make her finally convinced? Had she seen a picture of her mother before? If so, that would make sense but I don't think that was established, unless I'm forgetting something. Otherwise it's just a picture of a random Japanese family as far as she would be concerned, given that despite overhearing the Turtles talk amongst themselves about her parentage, she still thought they were lying? And if she was having doubts about whether or not it was true, why so trigger happy with the tracking device? Why not wait to see what Splinter had to say before activating it? |
| 267 | ** She has another copy of that same picture, but it's ripped in half so it only shows Tang Shen. She was looking at it at the beginning of the episode. She had just never seen a complete version of that picture before. |
| 268 | *** Ah, thanks. I must have missed that. |
| 269 | * So does Casey know about April's origin or not? |
| 270 | ** He seemed to know who Kurtzman was in "Manhattan Project", so maybe. |
| 271 | ** In "The Moons of Thalos 3" he said he and April aren't mutants, so no he doesn't. |
| 272 | * In ''Wrath of Tiger Claw'' why did the Turtles agree to fight Tiger Claw on remotely equal terms? They had just finished proving in the meat locker that their ability to come out of the shadows and hit him is much better than his ability to sense them. In fact he notably backs out into the well lit room. In the last encounter, and again in this encounter he's proven himself to be a match for the four of them. He obviously hadn't found the lair either so once he was lead away they had no reason at all to even engage him in a fight at all. The only thing they accomplished was getting Mikey hurt and blowing Karai's cover when she was forced to step in. There was no upside to them not avoiding the fight all together or if they intended to kill him there was no real advantage to facing him in a fair fight instead of assassinating him like the ninjas that they they were less than a minute prior. |
| 273 | * If Irma was really a Kraang droid, how did she eat pizza? |
| 274 | ** The same way Ch'rell drank tea in the 2003 version. In all seriousness, it's possible that Kraang Sub Prime makes "Irma" eat, but any food he puts in "her" mouth is redirected to a separate storage compartment or something. |
| 275 | *** Or his own mouth. |
| 276 | * How were the Kraang disguised as Irma, Kraang Sub-Prime, and the cops able to speak English fluently? |
| 277 | ** Maybe they had more training with Earth's language? I'm assuming most Kraang don't care about sounding ''too'' human-like as long as they get the message through. |
| 278 | ** Either Kraang Sub-Prime and Kraang Prime are actually different in ways other than their size or more likely the average Kraang simply doesn't care. They rarely communicate with humans and if you've ever spoken with someone in their second language they often have, obviously not as comical, but very specific word choices. Either way it pisses Kraang Sub-Prime off that after thousands of years they apparently just aren't putting in the effort. |
| 279 | * So we're supposed to believe that the Kraang somehow got Irma/Kraang Subprime enrolled in a high school when "she" has no history prior to that? |
| 280 | ** The Kraang have been on Earth for hundreds of years. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few of them on the school board. |
| 281 | * Why make the Irma droid short-sighted and in need of glasses? |
| 282 | ** Makes for a more lifelike disguise. |
| 283 | * How could April not sense that Irma was really a Kraang? |
| 284 | * In "Into Dimension X", if the time differential in Dimension X was so extreme that Mikey arrived months before the others, Leo and Raph should also have arrived months before Donnie did. |
| 285 | ** Mikey admitted that it might have just been a few hours, as he wasn't paying attention. |
| 286 | *** Even then, Leo and Raph should still have arrived hours before Donnie. |
| 287 | * In "The Invasion" it's revealed that Irma was really Kraang Subprime. But in "Mousers Attack" April was already friends with Irma and at that point the Kraang still didn't know where she was. |
| 288 | ** That just adds to the "there was a real Irma and she was kidnapped" theory. |
| 289 | ** It's likely the writers hadn't decided Irma was a Kraang spy until they got to the second season. |
| 290 | * Why do the Kraang even need to invade? Kraang Prime reveals that they created the human race and Kurtzman's files showed that they've been living among us ever since. They've basically had the Earth in their pocket the whole time. |
| 291 | * So it took SufficientlyAdvancedAliens like the Kraang the entire existence of the human race to do things like create the HalfHumanHybrid April or finally perfect the mutagen? |
| 292 | ** Kraang Prime could be lying, of course. |
| 293 | * In ''Plan 10'' why does Raph seem to mostly understand how to pilot the mech outright? He makes a few humorous mistakes early on but it's hard enough to buy that both Raph and the Kraang pretty much instantly understood how to control each other's vastly different bodies but Raph knows how to control a vastly different body and control a mech well enough to to perform martial arts with it. |
| 294 | ** It's possible that the Kraang suits were specifically designed to be controlled much like a human nervous system. |
| 295 | * So in the Season 2 finale, the turtles (minus Leo) and April use the Turtle Mech try fighting Shredder. Don't they kind of have bigger fish to fry with the Kraang? Fighting the Kraang was the reason for the Turtle Mech's existence in the first place and while getting revenge on Shredder was understandable, isn't it more important to save the world from the Kraang invasion instead of avenging Splinter? They did use it to fight Kraang Prime, but only because she confronted them. |
| 296 | ** They are a bunch of teenagers who have as far as we know have a grand total of maybe a dozen or so people they can trust (4 Turtles, 1 Rat, 1 Casey Jones, 2 O'Neils, 1 Sushi Chef and 1 Crocodile and I'm sure I missed someone) and they just lost their father figure, Mr. O'Neil is mutated AGAIN and into what seems to be a much less stable form than his Wingnut form, Leo is beaten to the point where he could still die (and probably would without a healthy dose of PlotArmor) the city is completely overrun. I think it's safe to say that none of them are thinking rationally by this point. |
| 297 | * In ''Mutagen Man Unleashed'', Donnie's failed attempt at making Retro Mutagen results in some frozen mutagen and the beaker he's using explodes. At the end of the episode, this is how he stops Mutagen Man, any reason why he didn't y'know, go boom? |
| 298 | ** 2nd frozen batch which doesn't freeze without force applied? |
| 299 | * Why does Mikey have a cardboard cutout of Chris Bradford in his room (and don't say "[[RuleOfFunny because its hilarious]])? If it was out of spite and he was trying to vandalize it or use it as a dartboard, it would make sense, but considering its still in good condition, Mikey's clearly not keeping it for revenge. |
| 300 | ** I'm guessing because the rest of his room is a mess, he was probably too lazy to throw out the cutout. |
| 301 | ** Or maybe, [[FridgeBrilliance Mikey just didn't want to let go of the]] [[TearJerker last memory he had of a person he once considered his friend.]] |
| 302 | * Maybe I've missed something, but I don't really understand why Karai can seemingly switch between her mutant and her human form. Is that some kind of snake thing or what? |
| 303 | ** Baxter accidentally spills something into the container that he later poured into the mutagen. |
| 304 | * In "[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012S1E17TCRI TCRI]]", it is established that Dimension X's natural atmosphere is toxic to people in Earth's dimension, a fact that remains consistent in the series. In "[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012S2E24IntoDimensionX Into Dimension X]]", Donnie fashions a makeshift breathing apparatus that lets them breath. The person beyond a Kraang or Utrom capable of breathing Kraang-atmopshere is Leatherhead. In-fact, he was in Dimension X for ''decades''. What makes him so special? |
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| 306 | |
| 307 | [[folder:Season 3]] |
| 308 | * What makes April think the farm is a particularly safe location? In previous incarnations it made sense because the Foot were if not a problem entirely localized to New York they certainly weren't an alien invasion force. The Kraang are a legit global threat. |
| 309 | ** Even invasion forces need to be efficient in how they invade. The Kraang would focus on taking down cities and areas closer to them before trying to sweep the countryside. At the very least, they would have a little bit of time to rest there. |
| 310 | * Why does April wear her usual clothes while chopping firewood in "A Foot Too Big"? |
| 311 | ** Considering they had to leave New York on short notice, April didn't really have any time to pack extra clothes or other essentials. |
| 312 | * This is partially continued from an above headscracther. Did the Kraang politely stop their invasion with just New York City? It's been a several months and the as far as we can tell the turtles have made no mention of going to find Splinter, no plans to fight the world invading Kraang. Both of which make a certain amount of sense as they are waiting for Leo to recover. But Mike appears to have found a new tv show (unless I blinked and it's suppsoed to be VHS/DVD of some sort. Which means the alien invasion is sufficiently localized that the rest of the world is going on watching cartoons. It also strains believability that six teens, one of whom is badly injured, manage to survive on a farm completely alone. Even if the farm animals were polite enough not to have left or been eaten in however long it's been since someone lived there, and the water was still running, and the power was still up there are still other things that most people need. |
| 313 | ** I figured the Earth Protection Force kept the Kraang contained. |
| 314 | ** There was probably a caretaker who looked after the place while they aren't up there. They also have internet, so regardless if the news was a tape, they have access to the news, not to mention they've gone to the store several times and could have got a paper. Why there's no mention of what's going on in NYC anywhere has yet to be revealed, if it ever will. |
| 315 | * Why did April make Donnie start stalking her again just after he learned to stop stalking her? |
| 316 | ** Perhaps she does have feelings for him. |
| 317 | ** April gets a lot of flack for giving Donnie "mixed messages" in that episode (and in general), but she's a teenage girl herself who had just been through a huge TraumaCongaLine. She was probably confused about her own feelings, not intentionally trying to hurt Donnie or lead him on. |
| 318 | * Okay, after the newest episode 'Buried Secrets' I'm like totally confused about April's whole past. Could someone give me a cronological list of what happened to her family? Can we even trust what the Mom-thing said? I mean, she seemingly had all the memories of the real Mrs O'Neil. Did the Kraang ship really land there and they unkowingly build their farm house there? And why would the Kraang be in some kind of sleeping state anyway? How did April's greatgrandfather not notice an alien spaceship in his basement? Heck, why would whoever build the farm house not notice that?! Why would the O'Neils come back to this place when they were experimented on there? Why would the Kraang allow them to leave? And then what about the things Mr. Kurtzman said? This whole scenario makes like no sense at all... |
| 319 | ** Give it some time and it may make sense with more episodes. Some of the things about April didn't make much sense until ''The Kraang Conspiracy'' where it's revealed that April is part kraang or mutant. |
| 320 | * What exactly are the Turtles waiting on at this point? Leo appears to be fully healed, the Kraang were apparently defeated by the Earth Protective Forces without too much trouble since they haven't been mentioned and I doubt reckless drivers would be making the news if aliens were invading New York. They at least claim to believe Splinter is alive so why haven't they gone back to either reunite with him or retrieve the corpse? |
| 321 | ** 1.) It hasn't been confirmed yet that the Kraang have been defeated. If anything, the Earth Protective Forces was an unexpected entry into the playing field, and possibly deterred the Kraang's spread. However, it's still likely they're causing chaos in NY and maybe even the surrounding states. 2.) While you would expect the invasion to be on the TV you have to remember it's been going on for three months, and that it has seemed to be contained mostly to NY. It's understandable that by then they would be reporting things happening in their own community. It should also be noted that they're probably reporting about updates on what's going in NY, but for the plot of "Race with The Demon" it wasn't mentioned. We'll likely see it in a later episode. 3.) Leo isn't fully healed. While capable of still preforming physical feats he's shown multiple times that his injuries are still affecting him. 4.) They don't know that Splinter is alive. The last time they saw him he got thrown into a whirlpool of sewage. Mikey's words were just to calm Raph down from his UnstoppableRage. And again, he was thrown into a whirlpool of sewage, looking for him would be hopeless. Should they in 1/1,000 chance find him his body would most likely be unrecognizable. By all means the fact that they're still at the farm is understandable given the circumstances. |
| 322 | * The turtles spend Visionquest forging new weapons and armor. Why were they immediately abandoned? Those Shredder Mutants might have been manageable if someone had brought a flamethrower. |
| 323 | ** It's possible that they still have them, but they are saving them for when they really need it. Such as going up against Shredder or Kraang Prime. They wouldn't want to waste what they have all at once. |
| 324 | * Something that retroactively bugs me from The Invasion. When Shredder throws Leo through the window of April's apartment, Leo doesn't have his swords. How come he has them in "Within the Woods"? |
| 325 | ** No explanation is given. It could be that either one of the Turtles grabbed another pair form the dojo before leaving or Casey could have stumbled upon them when searching for his family and they didn't have enough time to show it. We simply just don't know so it's anyone's guess. |
| 326 | * So, is Timothy dead? We didn't see him when they went back to the lair. |
| 327 | ** They didn't show Donnie's lab, so it's likely that Tim is still frozen and still sitting there until Donnie can get in there without getting blasted by the security device. |
| 328 | * What happened to Steranko's clothes when he mutated? I'd accept that the tanktop was on under his shirt, but where did the belts on top of it come from? Also, his pants completely changed, and his coat, shirt, tie and shoes vanished. His coat couldn't have come off in the tank since its epaulettes are fused to his shoulders. |
| 329 | ** Probably the same reason why people who are tied up are free of their restraints once dunked in mutagen. It's possible that the belts and pants were hidden under the rest of his clothes, which probably disintegrated in the mutagen like ropes and chains do. The epaulettes likely fused to him as the coat disintegrated the same way that Karai's armor fuses with her when in snake mode. |
| 330 | * If time moves faster in Dimension X, and most of the human kraang hybrids have been in there for at least of couple of Earth months, shouldn't they look significantly older? |
| 331 | ** Time in Dimension X does whatever is most convenient for the plot. Leatherhead ages what appears to be decades in what seems to at most have been a couple of months. Mikey arrived in Dimension X either months or hours before his brothers but the others all arrive at basically the same time despite being spread out over a similar period of time. In ''The Battle for New York'' the Turtles in Dimension X and the Mighty Mutanimals are on Earth. It is obvious at the end during the battle with Kraang Sub-Prime that their is no difference in the time flow between the two dimensions. The portal being closed for a few minutes on Earth should have been hours at least, possibly days or weeks on the other end and communication should have been frustratingly difficult if time moved even twice as fast in Dimension X. One one end it should sound like the voices are sped up and on the other super slow motion. |
| 332 | * How the heck did Karai expect Leo and/or the others to know what she meant when she pointed to the distance and said "Comet"? She was obviously under pressure, but that's a ridiculously vague clue to give. |
| 333 | ** Her mind is going. Speaking even when calm seems to be a bit of a challenge. She probably was ''trying'' to get the full phrase out but couldn't due to the stress and time constraints. |
| 334 | ** And as well as the above point, the Turtles seemed to figure out the blanks just fine anyway. |
| 335 | * How did the portal know how to discriminate based on race? |
| 336 | ** I think Dr Rockwell programmed it to do that. If I recall correctly, Donnie made some comment about it being a stroke of genius. |
| 337 | * How did Tiger Claw not recognize Casey when he was posing as a bus boy to spy on Shredder in ''Casey Jones VS. the Underworld''? You would think he would remember someone one he threw off a building because of the whole being eaten by a giant alien worm thing. |
| 338 | ** Maybe he's only ever seen Casey with the mask on? |
| 339 | ** That wouldn't make a difference since Tiger Claw could still recognize his scent. Really the reason why Tiger Claw didn't act is probably because Shredder made a move first and likely figured that if he DID show up again and became a problem, he could deal with him then. But at that time there was no need. |
| 340 | * Okay, so New York is now well aware of the existence of mutants, even to the point that Muckman can be accepted by the public as a hero. Then why do the Turtles still need to hide from everyone? |
| 341 | ** A couple of reasons actually. First of all, Muckman may have been accepted but he was constantly bothered by Grody and the people which clearly irritated him. It would be very difficult for the Turtles to do their jobs if the media is always hounding them, which for a ninja is a big no-no. The guys are ninjas, they perform from the shadows so they need to follow that rule as much as possible. Finally while Muckman didn't get this problem, who knows how many mad scientists or some other kind of horrible threat may take interest and try to kill/kidnap/experiment on the guys. Point is for the Turtles, their best move is to just keep themselves hidden to avoid as many problems as possible. |
| 342 | * What is with Leatherhead's personality change? When he first showed up, his violence made him a threat to his own friends and when he returns, he's suddenly much calmer, akin to his 2003 version. |
| 343 | ** Like most people he mellowed with age. It's easy to forget but Leatherhead was implied when he first returned from Dimension X to be decades older than when he left. |
| 344 | * So, how do those mind-control worm things work? They seem to enter through the head (Stockman said the chemical had to go straight to the brain), but when Raph, Slash and Rockwell are cured, they puke the worms up. |
| 345 | ** Probably because they can't exactly have them come back out of the heads, that would likely be very lethal and be too nightmare fuel-ish even for this show. It was either puke them out or digest them out, which given those options they chose the quickest and most family friendly version that they could do. |
| 346 | ** (OT) I guess that makes sense, but what actually made the mind control stop working in the first place? Was it, like, emotions or something...? |
| 347 | ** More or less, yes. Leo broke Raph free by mocking him about how maybe he likes being mind controlled by Shredder, which reached into Raph's anger and hatred towards Shredder and the emotion he felt overcame the worm. Donnie did the same thing (kinda) to Rockwell and Rockwell used a psychic blast to make the worm get out of his brain. But in the former two cases, yes it was by hitting the right emotional spot that allowed Raph and Rockwell to overcome it. |
| 348 | * Why did the exact same formula have completely opposite effects on Donnie and the Creep? |
| 349 | * How could Karai cough up one of those worms when they were going directly into her brain? |
| 350 | ** The same reason why Slash, Rockwell, and Raph coughed them up, because it's the only way it could come out and still be child appropriate. |
| 351 | * If Triceratons breathe nitrogen, they should have been able to breathe just fine on Earth. Earth's atmosphere contains way more nitrogen than oxygen. |
| 352 | ** They probably need a higher concentration than Earth's atmosphere has. The fact that Zog wasn't dead shows that he was breathing, just having a hard time of it. |
| 353 | * Did April's mind... thing at the end of the season 3 finale actually do anything? |
| 354 | ** Yes, it knocked Shredder away from Splinter and happened because of how devestated seeing Splinter die made April. So it was pretty much the equivalent of forcing Shredder back. |
| 355 | * Why does the sight of the Technodrome, and then the Triceraton mothership, over New York Harbor not bring ''all'' [[AllOfThem the military]]? |
| 356 | ** It's possible that this is part of that thing that some shows use to not overly complicate things for kids: PoliceAreUseless. That the show is in a world where there's a lot less of an ability for military to fight or launch nuclear weapons or air squadrons or what have you in time. If at all. I mean, if they barely responded to a Kraang invasion a season ago (and got defeated), or didn't respond to a giant technodrome 2 seasons ago, what makes you think 2 motherships would be enough to bring them in for any serious capacity? Or they were trying, but kept getting shot down in the crossfire. Though I also suspect it to be budgetary. With all the custom models used in the episode, adding in generic fighters getting blown up or what have you might have been too much of a strain for their work. |
| 357 | * In ''Attack of the Mega Shredder'', Karai is shown having at least a second brain worm injected. But in ''The Fourfold Trap'', she's only shown coughing up one worm (courtesy of Splinter's healing hands. |
| 358 | ** Maybe the machine injecting the second (or more) worm(s) removed the old ones too, so there was only one in her head at a time? |
| 359 | * What made the turtles and Splinter think it was a good idea to move back into the lair? Even if Shredder doesn't know where the lair is, the Kraang clearly do. |
| 360 | ** When they moved back into the lair after the invasion, they were under the impression that they had defeated the Kraang for good, so assumed it wouldn't matter. It wasn't until late Season 3 that the clan had any reason to think the Kraang were still a threat to them. |
| 361 | * What could Splinter have done about the BHG if Shredder didn't backstab him? He has no understanding of alien technology, so he wouldn't have known how to stop the machine. |
| 362 | ** Presumably hit it. Lots of electronic things are sensitive enough that Splinter might be able to damage something important Shredder almost certainly could. At least in a fictional universe. |
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| 364 | |
| 365 | [[folder:Season 4]] |
| 366 | * So, as of Beyond the Known Universe, the Earth has gone back in time six months... But where does that leave everyone else? How much of season 3 has been undone? Are there now no ninja turtles on Earth? |
| 367 | ** Their past selves are probably still there, still playing out the events of Season 3, unaware that their future selves are out in space. |
| 368 | ** Does that make two sets of Turtles? |
| 369 | *** Yes, and two Aprils and two Caseys. The past versions are still on Earth, while the future versions are out in space. So everything up to "Annihilation Earth!", or until the future versions get back to Earth, will still happen. |
| 370 | * How was Wyrm able to grant Casey's "I wish for something exciting" wish if he hadn't been released from his hypercube yet? |
| 371 | ** The hypercube only kept Wyrm in place. His powers still worked, but he couldn't use them unless he either heard a wish or if he was let out. So when Casey wished for excitement, he was still able to grant it but couldn't do anything else but wait until Casey let him out. Otherwise he'd have had to have waited for two more wishes to be made before he could free himself. Hence why at the end April told Casey not to make the wish (even if she didn't know why due to the time reversal) since without it while in the cube, Wyrm is powerless. |
| 372 | * In "The Arena of Carnage" the turtles get one part of the black hole generator. Than they state their goal to find the next part. Why? If they just destroy the part they have (throwing it into a star or something like that) the whole thing would be useless for the Triceratons anyway. |
| 373 | ** ''The Cosmic Ocean'' reveals that the generator can't be destroyed, so taking it apart was the next best thing. |
| 374 | ** We'll see come the end of the season but it's probably a case of the heroes clutching the IdiotBall. Either that or space technology is far and away greater than they have even hinted at it being since even if throwing it into a star didn't actually destroy the BHG it wouldn't matter unless someone out there has the necessary technology to get it back out of the star. |
| 375 | ** As it turns out, it wasn't the Kraang who built the BHG, but rather Professor Honeycutt and it was designed to only be destroyed by a combination of dark matter and fusion. |
| 376 | * Why were the pieces of the BHG hidden on the planets in the first place? Even if they are indestructible, it makes a lot more sense to just dump them into a star, and then good luck trying to get them out in the next several billions years. And stars have less defining characteristics that would help the would be looters to even find the specific ones ("So one of the pieces is inside of a star in Andromeda galaxy. That have ~1 trillion stars in it. Good luck trying to find a needle in a tanker full of hay."). Okay, triceratons showed that they possess planet-busters that are capable of making a star going supernova (Which in itself actually casts huge shadow over the whole "the most destructive weapon in the universe" status of BHG), so then you can dump the pieces into a ''natural'' black hole, which would make them unrecoverable for all intents and purposes. |
| 377 | * In season four, the new cartoon Mikey gets into is an 80's show revolving around Chris Bradford. Bradford even appears in "live-action" segments, looking no different than his human self did before mutating in the present. That would mean Bradford would have to at least be in his fifties in the present, yet his human form looked just the same as it did back then. How is that possible? |
| 378 | ** The animators probably just didn't want to update Bradford's character model for that one scene, so let's just say he's aged well. |
| 379 | ** For what it's worth, Bradford's primary inspiration, Creator/ChuckNorris, hasn't really aged noticeably since [[{{TheEighties}} The 80s]] either. |
| 380 | * Why do Triceratons wear space helmets with holes for their horns? You can either breathe in space or you can't! |
| 381 | ** They could be HUD displays instead of being actual airtight helmets. |
| 382 | * How can Raph keep Chompy as a pet? He's an alien species they know nothing about making it difficult to take care of him properly and since his parent Tokka was a giant fire breathing monster, how are they supposed to keep him under control or at least in secrecy when he grows up? |
| 383 | ** He either won't age visibly or an episode will be dedicated to how terrible an idea this was. |
| 384 | ** See: Tokka vs. The World |
| 385 | * Master Splinter lives in a world that includes time travelers, mutants, Space Aliens, Ninja Magic and human like robots. So when effectively clones of his sons, Casey and April arrive he lets them go with almost no complaint? FlatWhat. We the viewers know this won't go poorly and additionally that this was just the easiest PG way to get rid of the duplicates but nobody here really makes sense. |
| 386 | * Why does Honeycut take the Past Turtles to space? He took the originals to save them and destroy the BHG but that's gone. So not only is there no reason for him to come to Earth at all where is he going to take the turtles? They have no purpose in space, they have enemies like Dregg and eventually they have to get homesick right? |
| 387 | ** Dregg is dead, so there's that. But yeah, it doesn't really make any sense. |
| 388 | ** I'm personally a little more worried about what happened at the spaceport in ''Beyond the Known Universe'', imagine angry aliens shooting their lasers or trying to stomp on you for things your future self did. |
| 389 | ** This Troper always assumed that Past Honeycutt's plan was to hop back in time like the set we followed did. That keeps the time loop nice and stable - someone has to gather up the pieces of the black hole generator in the past for the whole thing to work, after all. |
| 390 | * How did the events of "Trans-Dimensional Turtles" play out in the original timeline? Who did the 1987 Turtles summon then? Did they solve the whole thing by themselves? |
| 391 | ** It should also be noted that the timelines don't line up either. The Kraathatrogon worm appears in the final scene which is straight from "The Manhattan Project" with an added scene of Tiger Claw cutting himself out. So we can presume the past Turtles are on that mission. However, this was the Season 2 finale, which is over a year prior, despite the episode taking place a few months before the Black Hole Generator swallowed the Earth. Tiger Claw also has an eyepatch, despite him getting that during his dimensional travels when he went through the portal with the worm, which means he somehow got the eyepatch INSIDE the worm. So the timeline is all sorts of messed up here. It could be presumed that perhaps they failed and their universe did die originally, but that also doesn't make sense because Krang put a Dimensionizer inside the 2012 universe and the Prime universe, which would have destroyed EVERYTHING. Maybe it... just didn't happen? But there's no deviation in the 2012 timeline that would cause Krang to be allowed in Dimension X to make the Dimensionizers and travel to 2012 and Prime. Krang's backstory now is also incredibly contradictory, as he was an alien warlord from Dimension X who was reptilian, and was literally turned into a brain and banished, not an idiot Kraang who was banished for screwing up. The two Dimension Xs aren't even the same. But the episode isn't non-canon because "Wanted: Bebop and Rocksteady" is literally the finale and is another '87 crossover, referencing "Trans-Dimensional Turtles" a lot. It's honestly best not to question it as the entire episode, while well-made and nicely executed from a non-opinion standpoint, is a continuity nightmare and is impossible to properly explain. |
| 392 | * How did Karai come to control Shredder's former lair? Prior to Episode 2 she didn't have an army of her own and even with the army we're shown she'd never be able to hold off Shredder's Mutants, much less Shredder's mutants with an army of Footbots backing them. |
| 393 | ** Shredder's army had vacated the place. Shredder had just gotten his ass handed to him by Splinter and was in no condition to fight. They couldn't risk keeping him in the lair because the Turtles knew where it is and can get in and out with nearly minimal effort. They found themselves a new place to hide, and Karai basically walked in and took it for herself, Shinigami, and her army of ninja mercenaries. |
| 394 | * Why would Leo wear a disguise when aligning with Karai? The 2012 Turtles are sufficiently distinct that nobody who was personally acquainted with the Turtles could mistake one for another and they are still mutant turtles so it's narrowed down to four people on the planet, eight in the universe that could be beneath the black mask. Seems kinda pointless. |
| 395 | ** RuleOfCool and it might also be for protection since he was wearing shoulder pads. |
| 396 | ** He also puts on his LARP gear in another episode when he's trying to act on his own (Mikey ends up tagging along though). It seems to be a thing for Leo to wear a different "uniform" if he's doing missions without his brothers, to signify that he's not acting as part of the "team" at those times (Raph does this at least once too, in the episode where he tries to train a Triceraton). Since Karai and Shinigami are goth girls who wear a lot of black, I suppose he went for a lot of black and metal to match them. |
| 397 | * Why isn't Splinter on board with finishing the Shredder? This Splinter has consistently been shown to be more pragmatic than honorable and this Shredder is insane even by Shredder standards. He's so single minded in his desire for vengeance that given the choice between letting Splinter save the world ''and then stabbing him in the back'' and stabbing him in the back and dooming the Earth to be destroyed that he'd take the latter without hesitation. This is not the kind of foe you leave to lick his wounds. Karai is wrong because the plot says so but allowing Shredder to recover and build an army of bigger better Foot Bots should really qualify as TooDumbToLive. |
| 398 | ** He's not opposed to taking out the Shredder, he's opposed to being reckless about it and using poor strategy. Karai is being dangerously hotheaded and nearly got her whole team killed, when bringing in the rest of the Turtles, letting Splinter plan the operations, and ''not going after the most well-defended target'' might have gotten better results. |
| 399 | ** The problem with that is that Karai was the only one who actually had a plan, sure she was hot headed but its not like Splinter had any better alternative methods in dealing with Shredder. So far Splinter wanted his sons to be reactive instead of proactive which ment Shredder's empire was getting stronger with each new mutant enforcer and an army of robots. |
| 400 | ** Splinter shows a dismal view on revenge in general and says to Karai directly that he believes it will only worsen things rather than solve them. He's not against thwarting Shredder's vengeance plots when they occur and typically will let loose on Saki when he tries them but is disinterested in actively hunting him down to finish him off. |
| 401 | * With the exception of Tigerclaw why is anybody loyal to the Shredder? An argument can be made that Razar and Fishface have their reasons, but a crippled Shredder should have been pushed out the window by Baxter, Rocksteady or Bebop the exact second Tigerclaw wasn't actively preventing it. |
| 402 | ** Considering Stockman already tried to sever his ties with the Foot Clan and paid dearly, he probably learned his lesson. Also, Tiger Claw not being able to prevent it doesn't mean he won't somehow find out and since he and Rahzar have an abnormal sense of smell (which is how Stockman was dragged back into Shredder's service), running away is futile. TLDR, offing Shredder isn't worth incurring the wrath of his minions. |
| 403 | * How were Don Visiozo's men able to create weapons that only work on mutants without knowing how mutants work, hence the need to dissect Donatello and Mondo Gecko? |
| 404 | * So, who's left of the Foot Clan post-Owari besides Tiger Claw and Baxter? Raph clearly left Xever to die, and Bebop and Rocksteady stopped screaming whilst the training guns were still firing. Also, Rahzar didn't resurface after Leatherhead dragged him underwater. |
| 405 | ** Rahzar and Fishface have returned in Season 5 and a trailer shows Rocksteady will also return. |
| 406 | ** Here's the whole list: |
| 407 | *** Rahzar: Drowned by Leatherhead. Revived in Season 5. |
| 408 | *** Fishface: Briefly resurfaces to help Rahzar get revived, but abandons the Foot afterwards. |
| 409 | *** Baxter: De-mutated during the Events of ''Owari''. He is never seen again. |
| 410 | *** Tiger Claw: Started a cult dedicated to bringing the Shredder back from the dead. |
| 411 | *** Bebop & Rocksteady: Quit the Foot Clan after Shredder's resurrection. |
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| 413 | |
| 414 | [[folder:Season 5]] |
| 415 | * How exactly was it Donnie's fault that Don Vizioso escaped with Shredder's heart during the restaurant scene? |
| 416 | * The heroes try using the seal to control Kavaxas but it doesn't work, yet Mikey is able to use it flawlessly in the next episode? Also, how did he manage to steal the seal and pass it off to the others without Tiger Claw knowing about it? |
| 417 | ** Splinter did mention once that both Mikey and Leo had higher intuitive/spiritual ability than Raph or Donnie (this was why Splinter taught Leo the healing hands mantra). So it might be that Mikey specifically could get the seal working, even if the others couldn't. |
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