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1	* When your wife gets pregnant, the pregnancy doesn't even last a month. The kid, in one year and one day, grows up to look about 4 or 5. And no one else looks older. Magical rapid aging that affects your child? Half-monster DNA screwed them up?
2	** Yeah, must be the [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments half-monster DNA]].
3	** More true for Micah X Raven pair thay anyone else.
4	* Micah's attitude. His [[DeadpanSnarker snarkiness]] is pretty hilarious, but there are times when he crosses the line. He tells Sofia ''to her face'' that her family has genetic defects. Not to mention other times when he makes rather cruel jokes or insults to/about people [[KickTheDog ''right in front of them.'']]
5	** He may be saying the offensive stuff softly.
6	** Those... are cruel already? o_o
7	*** No matter how mean he gets, he's still better than Marian.
8	* I like how you don't lose an item if you drop it. But my wife made me ice cream and she put in on the floor (we were outside at the time, and she dropped it on the stairs.) She then proceeds to go into labor. We get a year and a day in a TimeSkip. ''The ice cream is still there.'' Gross!
9	** And then you can ''[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential ship it]]''.
10	*** And I did!
11	** [[{{Pun}} I shipped it with Donchachos/Sherman.]]
12	* Your children are mere decorations. You can't give them gifts and they can't be taken to battle (though that would be insane.) The only fun I had with them was continually bouncing the large table off his head. My monsters would make better children.
13	** That can always be improved in the next game. Alternatively, your children really are zombies.
14	*** This is unfortunately the way children have been handled in most Harvest Moon games, so the it seems more likely that children will continue to be little more than lawn ornaments.
15	** Or maybe they ran out of space to program in favorite gifts and stuff.
16	* Why does/do your son(s) have the same haircut as Rusk? It makes the child look like a mini-him.
17	** Of course, it could mean that your wife had an affair...
18	*** Which is even more awkward if your wife happens to be Collete.
19	*** Because you kept flirting with the other girls, like in the WMG below.
20	*** Hey, they flirted with me, [[strike: ignoring the fact that after the marriage, I started making engagement rings and proposing to anyone I saw walking outside.]]
21	*** Note: Society always think it's the guy's fault.
22	* Even if you get married, the bachelorettes ''still'' openly flirt with you. What's up with that?
23	** JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE.
24	** Doubly creepy/funny when they do in ''in front of your wife.''
25	*** Triply so when your wife ''plays along.''
26	*** Quadrupaly so when you can still take them on dates, give them random gifts, and finish relationship requests for them.
27	** It's your fault for making them like you anyway. :P
28	** Maybe they like [[LoliconAndShotacon shotacon]]? Like, it's a big fetish there, similar to many cultures liking fat people. Your character fits the mold.
29	** There's at least one case where this is averted. If you go on a date with Kuruna after you're married and choose one of the more romantic dialogue options, she'll [[WhatTheHellHero chastise you]] for hitting on her.
30	* Why are the humans okay with a friggin' MERMAID walking (er, hopping) around whenever it rains (which is fairly often), but the idea of speaking to a human with a horn, or a dwarf (who looks JUST LIKE all other humans) is NOT okay?
31	** They've seen Persia/Pia in a bathing suit. They have no beef with her.
32	*** Alternatively, because she's too busy hating on squids, they know she's too much of a ditz to be a threat. Also, notice Raven's boss (what's his name) is a dwarf.
33	** Note that she says you discovered her ''secret.'' Whether or not the townspeople know about it, she thinks it's a secret.
34	** (Original Troper) Oh, yeah, I forgot about Gaius. And it's not really a secret. In one of Sofia's early quests, she off-handly mentions that a mermaid works at the bathhouse when you walk by it. I assumed that she was joking at the time... So, it seems to be common knowledge.
35	** Least among the girls. Considering they seem to bathe in large groups and Pia probably spends a lot of time in the baths, it probably went something like this:
36	---->Girls are taking bath. Pia is cleaning.
37	---->'''Pia:''' La la la. Slips and falls into bath. Gets tail.
38	---->'''Someone:''' What, you've got a tail?
39	---->'''Pia:''' Oh, yeah, I'm a mermaid.
40	---->'''Someone:''' Eh, that explains the fish obsession. And the gills. And the love of baths.
41	** This troper can't actually seem to remember anyone having a problem with the main character being part monster. At most it seemed to raise trust issues with Sakuya, but do any of the characters besides Kuruna (for all her ranting about racist Hornless) actually have a problem with Micah being part monster?
42	*** The mayor and the older, more old-fashion folks. Its hard to tell if anyone else have a problem with it but none seem to strongly object it, saying that he's "just a cute harmless wooly" (who slays dragons and gods but whatever). Kuruna is more conscious of it because racism left a bigger impression on her life.
43	* This is similar to the one above about other girls flirting with you after you're married. In the middle of the whole thing with Aquaticus near the end of the game, while waiting for Cucumbers to grow, I did a quest for Kuruna, in which she asked that I take her to talk to Wells. Wells then comments that the Sharance flowers have yet to grow, and suggests that the "bond between the races" might be love. So he recommends that I ''DATE KURUNA.'' DUDE, that is NOT something that you say to a guy whose fiance has just been kidnapped!
44	** Guess this is a bad time to mention that you can buy all the items you need from Hazel, negating the need for waiting , if the [=RandGods=] are kind.
45	* And another thing about the only-sometimes-racism. How does Aquaticus manage to justify kidnapping Raven, if she's your fiance, with the argument that a half-monster freak like you shouldn't be allowed to marry a human? Last I checked, Raven was half-monster, too! She even says to you after you beat Aquaticus that SHE thought that YOU wouldn't love her because SHE'S a "Half"!
46	** I'm assuming it's just a SecretTestOfCharacter. He says after you beat him that [[GambitRoulette he engineered all this to get the Sharance flowers to bloom]], and the fact that you can't faint in that final attack (though that might just be ThePowerOfLove/RuleOfCool/Micah being a {{Determinator}}) suggests he's going easy on you. Keep in mind, there's pedestals for the memory orbs and statues of the five other bosses. This indicates prophecy or planning or both.
47	*** If you go by the theory that the Aquaticus you face in the final Sharance Maze is the "real" Aquaticus, yeah, he's going easy on you.
48	** Note what Aquaticus actually says: "Humans and monsters were never meant to be together. She would only be unhappy with a halfbreed like yourself." He's probably saying that you shouldn't exist, because you are human and monster together. He isn't saying that Raven isn't, just that you'd make her even more unhappy. Remember that she hated her "cursed" half until you showed her that you were one, too.
49	** I'm not sure Aquaticus cares about justification. Based on what he said after you battle him he already kidnapped the main character and erased his memories. From the memories recovered from the orbs he had duties he was pulled away from allowing the boss monsters to continue their rampage, probably including the death of people the main character once cared about. In one memory he's in contact with his father, so that's at least one family member and probably other family and friends devastated by Micah's sudden disappearance. And for what? To save a land that he's a stranger in. Can you say "end justifies the means"?
50	* Did it bother anyone else that, once you show everyone in town your big secret, they're all just "Oh, that's okay, as long as your just a cute little Wooly." Isn't the point of the story to get rid of the racism altogether? What if, say, Raven had made The Reveal instead? You know what I mean. How would they have reacted to ''that''?
51	** Then again, the bird is really colorful and pretty-like.
52	** On all the on-again off-again racism, here's my two cents: Try going in Wooly form around town before the secret is revealed and talking to people. Almost everyone goes "CUUTE!" and tries to hug/shave you. The problem seems mostly one that Kuruna, Marjorie and Wells have. Sakuya's scared of them, but only because they interfere with business, and Shino's one scene seemed more like she was worried what customers would think, not her own prejudices (At least, that's why I haven't added it here yet). Most of the town just seems afraid the monsters'll attack. Same problem applies to the travellers, and you can't exactly blame the univir for thinking the townspeople'll attack them if they get too close. Once you've established you're friendly, no reason to be afraid. The Unity Festival can basically be described as the entire non-Micah cast going "Hey, these univir/Hornless DON'T want to kill us! Let's be friends!" Once you've established you're intelligent, no reason to keep you as a pet. This'd be why there's never a problem with Gaius, Pia and Daria, and why Raven'd be accepted, too.
53	* ...why are all of Pia's mermaid Tropes spoilered out? If it rains on the second day of the game, you can figure it out.
54	** Arguably, it could be cause she (along with everyone else) tends to stay indoors when it rains. You could find out on the second day, but you'd have to be lucky to run into her while she's outside when it's just starting to rain (anyone trying to find it already knows it exists).
55	* The whole layout of Sharance bugs me. First, there's a desert a few steps away from an ice land (okay, [[AWizardDidIt it's magic]], whatever). Second, there doesn't seem to be a way out of it. Where do the travelers who stay in Shino's inn ''come from''? The only road that you see is in the distance when you're in the Privera Flower Field, but you can't get to it. Another thing about that road: It should go right into the desert, based on the map. And the desert, which "stretches out forever" according to you and Raven, would cross right over Vale. Even if Vale wasn't there, how can there be a sea to the north of town if the desert continues northward?
56	** Magical PatchworkMap, the power of hyperbole, and a ClosedCircle or conservation of resources - they're not going to program in an entire world aside from the plot-relevant town, and if there was a visible path that the PC simply couldn't follow to exit, you'd complain of a BrokenBridge.
57	* Isn't the canon couple girl supposed to be nice? Since I've married Shara, all she's done is complain about not being able to use the field (who said she couldn't?), compare me to a pet because I'm half-wooly, say that she can't believe I ever said something so insulting (what the heck did I say, anyway?), and she even gave me Ironleaf for my lunch, which killed me when I ate it.
58	** Yeah, Shara's a lying bitch. She told me to eat flowers, but when I did, I nearly died! The dungeon boss then killed me.
59	** She's manipulative, too. Her whole family is. In one of the dates she says that she wants to marry while her Grandpa's still alive, and then starts talking about how close you two are. And her sister and grandfather each have requests where they effectively guilttrip you into admitting love for her. If you don't say that you do to Wells, he frowns and says something like "you're not like most people". And Monica starts to tear up thinking about you marrying someone other than Shara. Come ''on!''
60	*** Heck she does it in the first few minutes of the game. Shara: "You'll be living in the tree!" Micah: "I don't remember agreeing to that." Shara: "You're an amnesiac, there's a lot of things you don't remember."
61	** Most types of flowers will heal you. I'm not sure which type you ate. And as for the not nice part, she did save your life over the objections of her grandfather, and she was the one who made the bouquet for Kuruna. And when you're married, she makes comments about how happy she is and how excited she is to be a mother.
62	*** I don't know how serious the tropers above are but you shouldn't take those comments too seriously, they seem to be jokes more than anything. Shara is as sweet as they come, though Sofia can give her a run for her money.
63	* Why are there no couples in this entire game, beyond you and your wife? At least there's Gaius and Evelyn.
64	** So they don't have to make more characters and stuff, I guess.
65	** There Carlos and Carmen. shutter
66	* Shara is content to let a perfect stranger live in the town's sacred tree?
67	** About that sacred tree: How can it be fireproof? Wells says it is. Come to think of it, how does he ''know'' that it's fireproof?
68	** Obviously he tried to burn it down in his youth, when he got really blitzed.
69	*** No, ''obviously'' [[FridgeBrilliance Blaise tried to burn it down while drunk at that festival, which is why he now hates wine.]]
70	* Is Ondorus really the only person in the area who has ever heard of the "bond beyond the races"? The Sharance Tree folklore seems pretty well-known in town...
71	** Ondorus is very studious and likely has studied the legend of the Sharance Tree far more in-depth than any of the other citizens. The other citizens seem to know that the tree is special and know of the legend, but they don't even seem to know how it's special. They call it the guardian of the town, but Aquaticus mentions the entire land will wither and die if the Sharance Tree does not bloom, making it far more important than even those legends suggest.
72	* What's the point of a canon heroine, anyway? Especially in this game.
73	** Just so people know which couple is canon, for those obsessive about continuity.
74	* Why do stumps suddenly pop up in the fields? It's not like someone could just grow a tree and then cut it down overnight.
75	** Why do ''branches'' suddenly pop up in the fields? [[FridgeHorror Is the Sharance Tree breaking apart from the inside?]]
76	** Maybe the tree is a GeniusLoci?
77	* Why does no one in Sharance have two living parents? As far as I can remember, none of the characters even mention a DisappearedDad or a MissingMom. It's enough to make you worry about what's going to happen to Micah or his wife.
78	** That's a Harvest Moon thing. Seriously, look at those character pages--singles parents far outnumber pairs.
79	** The reason for it is obvious; there needs to be a certain threshold of eligible bachelorettes to have a variety to choose from, and if every heroine came with two parents it would bump the number of characters the developers would have to program into the upper thirties or forties at least.
80	* How can Marjorie pull you out of the dungeons when you get KO'ed, no matter which dungeon you're in?
81	** Perhaps Teleport works automatically to bring you back to the Sharance Tree when you fall unconscious, and since you're unconscious there's an unseen cut-scene of you being dragged off to Marjorie. Since cut scenes stop time that would explain why no time passes when you are brought to Marjorie from inside a dungeon.
82	*** Which doesn't explain how she can pull you out of the Sharance Maze where you explicitly can't teleport.
83	*** ''You'' can't. Marjorie's a witch; maybe witch teleportation is different?
84	* Why isn't Evelyn marriageable? She doesn't seem much older than Sophia, and the only thing really holding her back is that she's a OfficialCouple with Gaius (which could be remedied by him simply being a rival, as in RF2). It's not really a big deal, but it just bugs me.
85	** Possibly simply a mechanics thing, since you have to fulfill family member's requests as well as your beloved's to get married (Or Gaius, if your dating Raven), and having two beloveds within one family would mean having two of cutscenes where you show your secret wooly form to two people, as well as act more and more in love with them.
86	** Well that explains why Ray in RF2 became a guy I suppose.
87	* So... do we ever get an explanation for what's up with Carlos's arms? I had thought those little fins on his biceps were some sort of decoration, but it became clear during the summer beach scenes that they're actually a part of his body. Was he supposed a merperson like Pia?
88	** Those things are his headband tails...
89	* So, why is there a portal through the sharance tree? (Well, actually there's two...) Everyone that usually uses the portal to the univir settlement uses it like it was there the whole game! No explanation or announcement like: "hey can we use your house? No? too bad. :)" And why is there a portal to the dragon cave? Its practically the same distance from the tree to the other dungeons, so why is it so special???
90	** The obvious guess would be that Aquaticus put them there to further your mission. The real question is why didn't anyone in the settlement try the portal out before the festival?
91	* How does someone who look like Sherman have daughters who look like Sofia and Evelyn? Genetics is complicated (with epigenetics and environmental factors and all that) but even if they had the hottest mom and grew up in the best environments, it's still highly unlikely that their dad would have so little impact on their physical features.
92	** Look back all the way to Jasper and Bianca from RF1. The de Sainte-Coquille family's genetics are crazy. We can see in RF2 that young male members are also as attractive as the females, and in Oceans we see Beatrix who takes after the patriarchs of the family in terms of appearance. Presumably part of the de Sainte-Coquille family genes is a strong metabolism early in life that causes them to grow up traditionally attractive, and then as they get older their bodies can't catch up to their appetites and they become gonks. I remember in several games the family heads have commented that they used to be attractive in their youth, so I think that it's just a quirk of their families. Presumably when Sofia and Evelynn get a little older they'll start to grow bigger themselves.
93	** On a similar note, Micah's wife seem to contribute absolutely nothing to the apparent phenotype of their kids. Its like the kids are the children of Micah and Rusk or something, which is not even a joke considering how effeminate those two look.
94	* Doesn't seem odd that no one has problems giving the stranger they met five minutes ago comeplete control of the '''only''' farm in the entire village.
95	** This is Rune Factory/Harvest Moon, that's par for the course. If that bothers you, than you're in the wrong series.
96	* Why would someone as lazy as Karina sport waist-length hair? That has to be seriously labor intensive to keep clean and neat.
97	** It's either that or cut it off, which arguably may be even more work for her (this is someone who can't walk for much longer than a few minutes without getting tired we're talking about, here).
98	*** The difficulty walking might be, at least partly, [[FridgeBrilliance due to the ridiculously long, heavy hair.]]
99	** Female vanity. Short hair actually takes more upkeep then long when it comes to styling. With long, you brush and go. With short, you need stuff.
100	** Karina's hair is pretty wild. Maybe she doesn't take care of it, but we're only seeing things through limited graphics so "absurdly messy with split-ends all over the place" looks just like traditional curls.
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102	* The farm inside the Sharance tree is the only farm in Sharance, as Shara clearly says at the beginning/ tutorial. So how come that in the Harvest Festival, every and each one of the villagers comments on the vegetables they have raised, and there is an actual competition between the hero and other contestants? Where are they raising the vegetables, if none of them has a farm of their own? Why is there a Harvest Festival to begin with, if the only farm in Sharance was abandoned until the arrival of the hero?

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