Line #61 Headscratchers/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2


1	Headscratchers in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2''.
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3	* [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries What's wrong with her hair??]]
4	** Two buns that end with a tail? [[Anime/DevilHunterYohko Reminds me of this]]. I'm more interested in knowing how her shoes work.
5	*** Personally, it [[Franchise/SailorMoon reminded me of this]].
6	* Will we see anything from Cheren or Bianca? Hilda and Hilbert as {{Previous Player Character Cameo}}s are almost a given, but they're not the only ones with fans.
7	** Almost assuredly. We already know 3 gyms are toast and there are only 2 new Gym Leaders as of what we know. Speculation is running rampant that Cheren might be running the third gym.
8	*** The latest Coro scans confirm that both of them, along with N, will be returning.
9	*** Cheren is the first Gym Leader, replacing Lenora. Bianca will give you your first Pokémon.
10	* Gameplay wise Pokémon such as Azurill or Absol being now "native" to Unova seems a good tactic... but in-universe wise... HOW DID THEY GET THERE? And nope, rather not imported since Azurill was seen in something that looks more like Route.
11	** Yes, imported. There was that transporter accident that started releasing foreign Pokémon in small numbers in the postgame, particularly in the postgame parts of the map, in Black and White. Like most invasive species, they evidently bred in large numbers due to lack of predators/parasites.
12	** Also some Pokémon like Eevee and Riolu have never been "native" anywhere, only appearing under wild under very limited conditions and usually being received as gifts, suggesting they could actually be native to Unova in the first place.
13	* All the characters from pre-G5 games don't appear to have aged at all for the tournament. Non-canon?
14	** They might also have simply used the old art to keep from spoiling new art before the release; ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance'' used old models for Sora and Riku in their early trailers, for instance. Cynthia's already getting new art for the anime, so she might as well receive the same in the games themselves. As always, we just need to wait and see.
15	** Considering the large amount of new art for the game, it was probably just a cost and time cutting measure. That said, Red recieves a brand new overworld sprite despite everyone else using their Gen IV ones. It shows too because Red is about a head taller (which makes sense since these games [[FridgeBrilliance have to be at least 5 years after HGSS]]). The Gen III RSE characters get a complete revamp with brand new battle and overworld sprites, though they were not redesigned like the Gen I & II characters were. It seems more of a "Let's focus on the stuff that's more vital to the game" such as all the new art assets seen everywhere else. There's alot of high quality art done by sugimori through out the game. Deadlines are a bitch. That's all.
16	*** Actually, Gen IV people got new OD sprites. From Kanto, through Johto and Sinnoh... The change might not be that noticable, but there is. Oh, and Red is at least 16 by that time (11 + 3 + x + 2 = [=B2W2=])
17	* Can someone explain to me how Giovanni is back for the tournament? Last time we saw him, he threw himself off of a waterfall.
18	** It wasn't a particularly large waterfall, and he probably knows how to swim. As for why he's back, it's because he used to be the Viridian City Gym Leader, and the tournament appears to be open to all previous leaders and champions.
19	** Also, back in Gold and Silver, the option to trade between those games and the first generation was called the Time Capsule. Thus, time travel has been accessible to humans in a rudimentary form since Generation 2, and likely has only been improved since then. In this way, an enterprising division of the Pokémon League would be able to access Giovanni for battle before he went blue-screen.
20	** Either that, or he never jumped off that waterfall to begin with, and that noise after he left really was just the radio.
21	*** Exactly, we didn't follow him outside of the small cave into the larger one and watch him jump, nor can we be certain he can't swim, which as a grown man he probably can. Seriously people, stop mixing together fanon and canon.
22	*** This troper has always presumed that noise was really just radio static as well, and was absolutely baffled to see everyone claiming Giovanni was DrivenToSuicide. Him showing up for the tournament makes perfect sense to me, but of course [=YMMV=].
23	*** I think the bigger question is how did he get into the tournament if it is well-known that he's a mafia boss.
24	*** Maybe he's retired from being a Rocket leader, and wants no more of helping them.
25	*** That's canon. After his defeat during the interim between R/G/B/Y and G/S/C, he said he's done with crime.
26	* So any reason for why Bianca participates in the Leaders tournaments, despite not being a Gym Leader herself?
27	** Maybe she got some kind of special permission from Cheren. As for an out-of-universe explanation, they probably just thought that would be the simplest way to throw in a battle with her.
28	* Why are the games called "Black 2 and White 2"? Shouldn't it be "Black and White 2"?
29	** There are two versions, therefore, each gets its own name.
30	*** This troperette calls them "[=BW2=]" to save time. Plus, [=B2W2=] doesn't sound as cool to her.
31	*** It does to me.
32	* Who leads The White Plasmas since Team Plasma is split to two faction and we only know that Ghetsis leads the blacks but who leads the whites?
33	** Well, no one necessarily has to lead the White Plasmas. They might all just be ex-members who make individualized efforts to [[TheAtoner atone]]/improve the relationship between people and Pokémon. It is likely, however, that if the Sages still have some presence among them, that they would be the "leaders"; we can pretty much rule out N as the leader though, because he has been absent this whole time and only returned because his dragon alerted him to Kyurem's suffering, and because Sage Rood (who looks to have brought together at least some of the old "White" Plasma members, including Anthea and Concordia) tells the player that nobody has seen N since the castle incident.
34	** Ghetsis leads the Neo Plasmas, but mentions that he made [[spoiler:Colress]] the leader of Plasma's scientific plans. Zinzolin is TheDragon to both. For the Old Plasmas, N is the official leader, but since he is gone Rood is doing most of the coordinating.
35	* Why Koga didn't appear, yet Giovanni did? (inb4 Elite Four comments)
36	** Because, like you said, he's an Elite Four member now, and Elite Four members do not appear. Giovanni, however, is not an Elite Four member, so his capacity to show up is measured under different standards than that of Koga's. If you wanted a different answer, then I'm afraid I'm going to have to let you know that there isn't one. This is why he didn't show up, and you can't just rule out the actual reason in hoping that reality will bend itself around to give you a different one.
37	*** It's still kind of weird though, especially when you take into account that Koga was not yet an Elite Four member back when Giovanni was a gym leader. So it would've made more sense for the games to include either Giovanni and Koga, or Blue and Janine, depending on where [=BW2=] are in the timeline compared to RBY.
38	* Alder's grandson. Granted, his past left a lot of room for expansion but you'd think the first game might've given us ''some'' indication that he was married and old enough to have grown kids of his own. (Then again, the [[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndsilver Giovanni-Silver]] connection wasn't even a thing until after both characters had existed for several years...)
39	** Well, Alder ''is'' pretty clearly the oldest Champion we've had, so I guess it's fairly believable that he at least could have kids of his own... Though I do agree that it seems kind of forced to pull a relative out of nowhere; Giovanni and Silver were at least established characters already.
40	*** Yeah, pretty much this. If Banjirou was his son I could buy that. ...there's no chance of this 'grandson' thing being a mistranslation from the fans, is it?
41	*** Nope, Benga walks run up to Alder and calls him gramps.
42	* Why Dunspare is suddenly so common? Johto had only Dark Cave, Sevii had Three Isle Port, Orre has Shadow Dunsparce in Colo, Sinnoh had swarm on Route 208, Old Unova has Route 12, but New Unova has: Routes 1, 2, 6, 12, 18 and 20; plus Sangi Ranch, Dreamyard, Village Bridge and the (new) Victory Road. HOW IT SUDDENLY GOT SO COMMON?
43	** ADayInTheLimelight. Also, it's a decently strong Normal type and probably a designer was simply a fan of the Pokémon. It was never based around being a super rare Pokémon though, not since the GSC era.
44	** It's actually found in the same way Audino is. That is, in shaking grass.
45	** Perhaps Unova's predators aren't as interested in Dunsparce as those of the other regions, so it's had time to flourish in the time between BW and [=B2W2=].
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47	* Did Ghetsis [[spoiler: [[KarmaHoudini Get away from the police again?]]]] This troper is asking because [[spoiler: people are declaring that the Shadow Triad being the Striation Trio theory was jossed, but if they the Shadow Triad got away with Ghetsis, then that means the theory still stands.]]
48	** The theory is Jossed for another reason. [[spoiler: Cilan, Chili, and Cress run a hugely successful restaurant every day. To have them be carrying on a criminal career at the same time would require them being in two places at once. Besides, they physically don't resemble the Trio at all (not only their skin color, but eye color, hair color, body structure, etc), and they use completely different Pokemon. Game Freak hasn't made any Gym Leader a villain since Gen 1. If they were the Trio, it would be immediately evident. However, Ghetsis apparently did escape, but this time is completely disgraced and even the Shadow Triad no longer follows him.]]
49	*** It's worse than "completely disgraced": [[spoiler: Ghetsis' VillainousBreakdown has made him unable to properly function anymore. He's gone into a complete VillainousBSOD. So it's likely he did get locked up in a padded cell. It was just by the Triad rather than the police.]]
50	** So that's the reason? It makes since but [[spoiler: Given that you can't go to the Striation gym because of Kyurem (I assume), I assume that the restaurant would be closed down due to that section being covered in ice and that would give them the opportunity to be a double agent. Plus, if the Shadow Triad no longer follow them and you meet Cilan, Chili and Cress after the events of that game, that could simply mean they discarded their life as a Team Plasma member and focus on just their restaurant. Concerning their Pokémon, Cilan in the anime doesn't even use an entire grass team, so by saying they don't use the same Pokémon would be considered moot given that you can use an entirely different team of Pokemon for your double life so people don't put two and two together. And a lot of people use evidence from the manga concerning the physical resemblance. Game sprites aren't going to give you accurate descriptions of them given how small they are, and going by the Pokémon Special manga (which is not anyway related to the game I know), one could argue that the Striation Trio could put a white wig and grey contacts on so they all look the same. The Striation Trio and Shadow Triad in the manga have shown similar body built when drawn as Chili is muscular and one of the members is also muscular.]] So overall I would think the theory could not be jossed but at the same can't be confirmed if you put this into retrospect similar to how [[spoiler: people had to wait until Heart Gold/Soul Silver for the series to confirm that Silver is Giovanni's son when that started all the way back in the original Generation I remake and the only evidence to back that up was one Rocket member saying his son had red hair which doesn't say much.]]
51	*** This troper found something interesting on the WMG page. Apparently [[spoiler: Cilan is the one that tells the player that they met the Shadow Triad. However, given how the Shadow Triad are being secretive and the fact that anime Cilan cannot be trusted given Burgundy might be telling the truth about his personality. This means he is either telling the truth or he's lying and being the {{Unreliable Narrator}} making the theory still stand.]]
52	*** As this troper understands it [[spoiler: Eastern Unova wasn't literally frozen during the climax, only the very Northeast areas. The map showing ice everywhere was used like clouds in previous games to avoid showing spoilers about the map before the game's release. They need never have shut down their restaurant at all. And doubting the scene just because "Cilan might be lying" is fuel enough to keep any WMG afloat in the face of any evidence]].
53	** The theory is jossed because [[spoiler:during their Memory Link scene, the Striation Trio and the Shadow Triad are shown in the same room, together. The player is not present, so there is no reason for the scene to be a trick or a lie. ''Special's'' continuity may turn out differently, but as far as the games are concerned, they are not the same.]]
54	*** [[spoiler: ''Special'''s continuity is very familiar with making Gym Leaders villains, such as Pryce and half of the Kanto Gym Leaders. That still doesn't mean the theory isn't Jossed for the games without getting into EpilepticTree territory. Besides, what was the basis for the theory in the ''first'' place? Oh here are two pairs of triplets in one game they must be the same!!!]].
55	*** [[spoiler: It's more so the fact that during the BigDamnHeroes moment at N's Castle in Black and White, all the Gym Leaders were there except the Striaton Trio. Conveniently, the Shadow Triad were there to lead you to N.]]
56	*** [[spoiler: And there's a much simpler explanation for that one: There are 7 sages but 10 Gym Leaders. They couldn't think of what to do with the Striaton Trio so they simply couldn't make it in time. Not all that unbelievable either, given Striaton City is literally an entire region away.]]
57	*** [[spoiler: That's still hard to believe given that Nacrene City and Striation City are right next to each other that Bianca wouldn't be able to make it on time yet Lenora was able to make it.]]
58	** Theory is now '''definitively''' Jossed beyond a shadow of doubt: [[spoiler: The Shadow Triad remains battleable every day in the Post-game outside Icirrus City, while the Striaton Triplets remain battleable every day in their former Gym. They can't really be in two places at once every single day!]]
59	*** It may be jossed but you can't deny that [[spoiler: the Shadow Triad are ninjas that can jump from one place to another as they are shown doing in the previous game. After all, it's very ninja like to appear in two locations at once.]]
60	*** [[spoiler: On top of that, the Shadow Triad can only be battled once a month / season in Icirrus City.]]
61	*** [[spoiler: Still, you can literally run out of the former Gym, fly to Icirrus, and battle them in under a minute after seeing the Striaton Triplets, and provided you don't actually battle them, they'll still be there for the entire month. Pretty conclusive. Jumping across half a region (none of them have a Pokemon that can use Fly) and putting on disguises in the middle of their main job to hold up the charade they shouldn't care about anymore as they don't follow Ghetis stretches disbelief too much.]]
62	*** [[spoiler: That's one way to disprove the theory, but really, would the protagonist in the game actually try to fight the Striation Trio one battle and then go straight to the Shadow Triad the next? The Shadow Triad don't need fly. They're ninjas and ninja's usually "teleport" from one location to another at fast speed like the first game in Icirrus City where they disappeared after speaking to the player and Brycen (and they didn't have a Pokemon with fly then). Also, they may not serve Ghetsis anymore, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't get in trouble by authority for allowing Ghetsis to escape custody during the original Black/White game and given they helped him achieve the events of this game means that if they were ever found out, they would still be screwed over.]]
63	*** [[spoiler: Again, there will always be EpilepticTrees that can be "What if Cilan is lying" etc, but they don't make any logical sense: Ninjas aren't really associated with teleportation (only a few individuals from ''Naruto'' are the only examples I can think of, and those guys are pretty much Ninjas in name only) except short range, which is more like running quickly, and the authorities clearly don't care about Colress, so they probably don't have anything to fear either. Besides, to avoid getting found out it would make more logical sense to simply ''stop being the evil ninjas''.]]
64	** Theory is thoroughly jossed. [[spoiler:This really shouldn't have gone as long as it has. Using anime Cilan and the Special Shadow Triad as evidence is a big stretch as all tropers here must know these are separate continuities which should no be used to predict the events and details of the others. The Memory Link and their positions in the postgame exist to quash this theory since really there was no need to go to these lengths (specifically the Memory Link) to show what has happened to these characters in the past two years and in recent times. And the whole "flying and teleporting ninjas argument" was ridiculous. Seriously, people just have to learn to let go of their fanon.]]
65	* When I was battling rival at [[spoiler:Pokémon World Tournament]], something was not okay with his Servine. It knew Leaf Blade at Lv. 25, while the earliest possible is Lv. 28 as a Snivy. But, seeing next, a FridgeLogic hit me. In next [[spoiler:tag]] battle [[spoiler:against Team Plasma]], which was just moments later from his one, his Servine was at Lv. 33, Tranquill and Simisear at Lv. 31. Notice how his team was all 25s in [[spoiler:Pokémon World Tournament]], and how everyone else who you battled ([[spoiler:Cheren and Colress]]) also had their Pokémon at Lv. 25 ([[spoiler:Cheren's]] Pokémon also got a power-up in next [[spoiler:(tag)]] battle [[spoiler:against Team Plasma]]. At Lv. 33, it is legal to have it a Leaf Blade, it learns it at Lv. 31 (28 as Snivy). His Servine's level was just changed to 25, like Battle Subway changes it to eg. 50... but that brings us to another point. Why ''player'''s team wasn't affected by that?
66	** This was probably done to prevent the PWT area from becoming an unintentional BeefGate. Many players may not be skilled enough to handle the battles purely on the basis of moveset and skills, and deleveling the player might cause the area to be more difficult.
67	* How they are going to get the fact that [[spoiler:Ghetsis tried to IMPALE the player character with Kyurem's icicles]]? That's the part of plot, so it can't be cut. This is the first time someone tries to [[spoiler:murder player character]]. No villain (probably except Orre, this person doesn't have great knowledge about Orre games) went there before. Not Giovanni, who also wanted to conquer the world (or maybe save it from Mewtwo), not Archie and Maxie, who wanted to increase the sea or land mass, respectively. Not even Cyrus, who wanted to create a new ''universe from a scratch'', not even him went '''that far'''. [[spoiler:Ghetsis]] doesn't even try to fight you with [[spoiler:Kyurem]], he tries to [[spoiler:kill you outright]] with its help.
68	** They did much worse in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky. [[spoiler: Outright murder is nothing compared to Darkrai disguised as Cresselia trying to convince the player to commit suicide.]]
69	** Not to mention in the first Mystery Dungeon games, there was Gengar attempting to con the townspeople into thinking that you were the cause of the natural disasters that would lead to the world's destruction.
70	** I can vouch for the fact that nothing of the sort happened in Orre. I think. It's been a while.
71	*** A Grunt used Sleep Powder directly on the player in XD, and if I remember correctly, the BigBad of XD also made physical threats against the player at the end of the game after his defeat, but nobody else has ever directly attempted [[spoiler: murder]]. (although it's indicated that several sailors DID die when Cipher had XD001/Shadow Lugia pick the SS Libra up out of the water. However, they weren't specifically trying to kill anyone, it was just collateral damage.) Moreover, they don't need to worry. While the ''Pokemon'' franchise has never gone there, the E label has tons of games with violence on that level in it. ESRB ratings do have a little bit of wiggle room on them: for instance, a quick scan of some games I own confirm the loaded with ParentalBonus humor, ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', is only an E, while even games with a lot of focus on conflict and death, like ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' and ''VideoGame/StarFox64 3D'' have gotten E10s. Even the ''extremely'' bleak ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'' only got an E10. One scene probably won't be enough to raise the rating from an E, especially in light of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series, as well as the player being able to [[spoiler: die in timed missions in two of the ''Ranger'' games.]]
72	*** It's heavily implied that the Shadow Pokemon were created to attack everything, Pokemon or human. Also, in XD, it's one of the Dragons that threatens to blow up the island with you on it after Greevil's defeat.
73	*** Mystery Dungeon is totally different, so I do not count for that. I was going to include that in the original point, but I didn't.
74	** Oh yeah, the Black 2/White 2 trailer came out in English and it says rated E for everyone.
75	*** Well, that way... they're probably change the stuff so [[spoiler:[[DubInducedPlotHole Ghetsis won't want to kill you, only to disarm you or something]]]]. I dunno, any ideas what would they do?
76	*** Should it even really matter? Wouldn't [[spoiler:N's BigDamnHeroes moment relieve any fear?]] Either way, it's a mere... few seconds? [[spoiler:Just a few seconds of the thought of the possibility that the protagonist getting murdered. It's just a few seconds, and it's not even that graphic. It's a possibility, but hardly graphic. It looked like a regular Ice attack you see in battle, just aimed at the player.]]
77	*** [[spoiler: Even the most stringent MoralGuardians would probably not throw a fit at this. NeverSayDie might be in effect but yeah, it is only a few seconds. Not necessarily going to be subject to [[{{Bowdlerise}} censorship]]]].
78	*** Agreed with the former troper. WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids might have something to do, as everything in Pokemon looks so [[CrapsaccharineWorld cuddly and cute]] that MoralGuardians wouldn't care about [[spoiler:giant icicles floating around a cute, big-headed boy/girl about to kill him/her]]. They'll just say "it's just Pokemon", and remember all those horrors previously mentioned and yet we never hear complains about them.
79	** Turns out they have Ghetesis try to freeze the player alive, which allows the younger players see it as a status affect and the older ones to see it as a AndIMustScream situation
80	** The issue has become moot. The line where Ghetsis states he will kill the player character was a mistranslation by a fan. The line reads that Ghetsis commands Kyurem to freeze the player which with its wording in the Japanese version can be misinterpreted to read that he wished it to impale the player character. The animation of the act can also lead to confusion since it looks like the ice is about to fall onto the player character.
81	*** The original wording had Ghetsis say he would leave the protagonist "frozen here." I think that still gives off the sense of a murderous intent, as opposed to "I will freeze you solid!"
82	* [[TheUnfought How come we only get to fight two sages?]] [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse Where the hell are they, anyway?]] If Rood and Zinzolin are out of jail after two years, shouldn't the other sages be too (Zinzolin might have broken out, but Rood's new characterization would suggest that he probably wouldn't do that)?
83	** Rood may have gotten out on parole for being extremely cooperative, as he seems to be. Zinzolin probably broke out. The rest might still be in jail, moved on to other regions or professions, or dead. The Sages did look pretty old in the original after all.
84	** Also, although he doesn't battle you, Gorm at least shows up later.
85	** Furthermore, you seem to have forgotten that Ghetsis was one of the Sages, so technically, you battle 3 of them.
86	** There's no telling if everyone was charged and found guilty of exactly the same crimes and given the exact same sentence. And they could've behaved differently in prison, which could change things even more (parole? Time off for good behavior?).
87	* In Challenge Mode, Hue has a Level 45 Starter when you encounter him in Undella Town. One route over in Lacunosa Town, when he teams up with you against Sage Zinzolin, his Starter is now Level 43. Uh... what gives?
88	** Oversight? Most people probably won't have access to Challenge Mode until the post-game anyways.
89	*** Okay, I can see that it could be an oversight, although I don't understand what you mean by the second part.
90	*** See the Headscratcher directly below. Challenge Mode isn't unlocked until you defeat the Champion.
91	*** You can get Challenge or Easy Mode by getting the Key from a person who already has it.
92	** The higher levels thing technically only applies to trainers you fight, not ones you team up with. Also, whether or not it was intended, having Hugh at a higher level when he helps you in Lacunosa Town would be making it ''easier'', not harder, so... it sort of makes sense?
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94	* Why is there a doctor on the Plasma Frigate? Why would they want to help heal a teenager who's clearly trying to take down the organization you work for? Granted, I can't read Japanese, so I don't know what the doctor says about this when you challenge them.
95	** The [[spoiler: rest of the people on the Frigate later made a HeelFaceTurn, so...]]. Also it's virtually impossible to comment on the plot if you don't even understand the language! The doctor could have been kidnapped, or forced to work there, or any of a number of reasons.
96	*** That is true... I am still curious though, if anyone could clarify for me, and can read Japanese and is at that point, what does the doctor say?
97	*** I've read it. According to the script, the doctor sides with Team Plasma because he thinks once they conquer the world there will be less injured/wounded Pokémon around (and that there will be no more conflict/strife as a result). Once he's defeated though, he says he doesn't care if an injured Pokémon belongs to a foe or an ally, which explains why he heals you after battle. So he's definitely working for Team Plasma, it's just that he cares enough about hurt Pokémon to help even someone who is actively working to take down the organization.
98	*** The translated version of his dialogue is pretty much this exact thing, too.
99	** [[FridgeBrilliance Or maybe he's been following in your footsteps knowing you've been on Team Plasma's trail and wants to help you take them out.]]
100	** Or maybe, you know, being a doctor, he is sworn to heal anyone in need (if he has the capabilities). Hippocratic Oath, or whatever they have in Unova.
101	* Why are there no restrictions in the Unova Leaders tournament (I was able to [[CurbstompBattle curbstomp]] my way through using Black Kyurem, and I'd presume that all other legendary are free to roam), but the moment I tried to enter Black Kyurem in any of the other tournaments, it gave the usual "No Eggs, mascot Legendaries, event Legendaries, etcetera." message. Is Unova just exempt from that?
102	** WarmUpBoss.
103	* So, it read on the YMMV page that [[spoiler: N is in fact not Ghetsis' real son, nor was N a normal person taken from his parents' custody or anything like that]]. It also says on Bulbapedia that [[spoiler: he's Ghetsis' ''foster son'', but I don't really know what that means. And that Anthea and Concordia are his foster daughters]]. I won't ask [[spoiler: where N might have came from]], but at what point in the game is this proven? I don't know since I can't read Japanese.
104	** A [[spoiler: foster child is essentially just an adopted child, meaning that they are unrelated by blood to their current guardian/"parent"]]. I believe it is revealed during one of the Memory Link scenes.
105	*** As far as I know, it's actually revealed by [[spoiler:Anthea and Concordia themselves, in the Driftveil City, the same building where you get the Zorua]].
106	** [[spoiler:During post-game, N also reveals where he came from and how he met Ghetsis at his castle.]]
107	** Ghetsis himself also said, in a completely hypocritical moment chewing N out for selfishness, "But I still haven't forgotten that even though I was kind enough to find you when you were living in the forest with Pokémon, and take you in, and care for you, in the end you were selfish and disrupted my plans. I was supposed to use your abilities to rule Unova!" So the story is that Ghetsis found N when he was at least a toddler, living in a forest with Pokemon, and adopted him as his son that he'd use for his master plan. But given the resemblance between N and Ghetsis, it's possible that N does at least come from the same bloodline as Ghetsis. One could theorize that maybe N is Ghetsis' bastard son. If that were true, then Ghetsis really should have called him [[Film/ThereWillBeBlood A BASTARD FROM A BASKET!!!]] during his VillainousBreakdown.
108	* If Marshal is just standing at the entrance of Twist Mountain, keeping you from going there until you beat the Elite Four and the Champion, then how is it realistically possible for him to also be at the Elite Four at the same time? Granted, it's a video game, but it's still kind of weird.
109	** That guy was Marshal? Oh man. Well, it's also similar to a case with Bill in FRLG, where it is possible for him to be at both Cinnabar Island and his cottage at one point of the game.
110	** He just uses one of his Pokémon to instantly fly wherever he needs to be. After all you can do the exact same thing.
111	* In first games you get the creation trio orbs from Shadow Triad. In these games, they're at Dragonspiral Tower. They aren't "there is only of that thing", something happened or perhaps it was made uncanon (like Kyurem's capture [[spoiler:because how else Ghetsis could almost-murder you]]) if Hilda/Hilbert gets it?
112	** It's probably just treated as non-canon now.
113	*** Or perhaps Hilbert/Hilda left the orbs there.
114	** There probably ''are'' more than one of them, since [=HGSS=] features Arceus making an extra legendary dragon for you. It's not too much of a stretch to assume that it could make more of the orbs, too. Though it's still very convenient that another set of them happened to show up in Unova...
115	* How come the movie logos at Pokéstar Studios still keep the language from Japan?
116	** I'm more worried about how one series is called [[DubNameChange Brycen]]-man, yet the logo clearly deciphers as HACHIKU-man. GratuitousForeignLanguage is one thing, but InconsistentDub...
117	*** One person at the Studios said that directors came from other regions, hence the logos being in different languages. Pay attention to their accents.
118	* I know that every game follows the "your rival has the starter that yours is weak against" rule, but if Hugh hatched his starter from an Egg[[note]]he says this right before he first challenges you[[/note]], then how is it determined after you pick yours?
119	** He just happened to have already hatched whatever Pokemon is strong against yours.
120	*** I always had this theory that the rival named his starter after a pokemon he thought it was going to be, just because he wanted it to be that Pokémon.
121	-->'''Nate: You've always talked about your Tepig, Hugh, but, now that I have my Oshawott, we'll battle and I'll finally see your Pokémon!'''
122	-->'''Hugh: Go, Tepig! Sends out a Snivy'''
123	-->'''Nate: ಠ_ಠ'''
124	* So how old ''is'' Iris, anyways? She doesn't look like she's aged a day since version one.
125	** What picture are you looking at? I think she looks pretty different.
126	*** The picture of her in the PimpedOutDress. She looks really young. (the shortness doesn't help...I mean, I assumed May and Brendan were mid-teens but they're apparently Ten.)
127	** She seems to have gone from 10-12 to 12-14. 2 years isn't a huge difference at those ages anyways.
128	*** Wow, youngest champion ever... at least, until the player characters come around. (They actually haven't really given us a concrete figure on how old the trainers are outside of Generation I, have they?)
129	*** [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Blue]] was 11 when he became champ. Iris isn't the youngest champion, but very close to it.
130	* The fact that Throh can be found on Victory Road's cliffside (with a pretty reasonable chance of encounter, I should add), even in Black 2, but in White 2, Sawk can still only be found in rustling grass. Not sure why they would do that.
131	* How the fuck someone can [[spoiler:be frozen by pointy icicles]]?[[note]]Bonus points for [[spoiler:Glaciate being incapable of freezing during normal Pokémon battle[[/note]][[spoiler:[[NightmareFuel I would rather imagine that they pierce your skin and then get through your organs, killing you.]]]]I know it's Pokémon and real life logic may not apply, but if it did - then WHAT THE HECK?
132	** Well, N does rescue you, so I don't see how this would be a problem.
133	** It's entirely possible that Ghetsis was - wait for it - being metaphorical. gasp
134	** This Troper's personal interpretation is that Kyurem's ice would be used to trap the player in a cage of ice, (if the ice spikes tilted up as they flew in they would form a cone enclosing the player) which is almost worse than impalement. This way the player would be trapped by unmeltable ice in Unova's coldest spot and s/he would freeze not in the Pokemon battle status affect sense but in the die of hypothermia sense.
135	** I think when the icicles make impact on a human's body, they not only do damage, but they freeze the body points that they hit from the angles they came. The ice would likely never melt and be hard to break. And then Ghetsis would just leave the trainer there to succumb to frostbite, starvation, and hypothermia. In the original version, his line can be translated to "You will be frozen here and see the end of Unova!" Which could very well mean "your ''body'' will be frozen here!" ''Forever.''
136	* Why is accessing the Day Care in Black 2/White 2 impossible until you beat the Elite Four?
137	** The Daycare is north of Striation City, and you can't access the Skyarrow Bridge (which takes you through to the path that leads to southern Unova) until after you've beaten the Elite Four and Champion. I guess I could to some extent imagine a Daycare being between Floccesy Town and Virbank City, but still.
138	*** Let me make this more clear: why am I not allowed to do any Pokemon breeding until after I beat the game?
139	*** Because the Day-Care just happened to be in a location that they chose to cut off. Could have been an oversight, could have been deliberate. We'll never know.
140	*** Until an official reason is given, I think it's a "Take That" from Game Freak over abusing the Day Care for EXP gaining...even though that's supposed to be that way (especially as far back as Gen I)
141	*** While it was initially designed to gain EXP, with Lucky Eggs, EXP Shares, Join Avenue dojos, and the new EXP scaling system, using the daycare to farm EXP is pretty inefficient. As to why you can't breed before beating the game, it might be to prevent nature farming or one of the other metagamey uses that would make the game too easy.
142	*** It's not as if there's no precedent for this either, as the same restriction happened in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]''. (Though in that case it was a bit more justified by the fact that they want you to beat the Elite Four using mostly just what was possible to have in ''Red and Blue''.)
143	* How does Magnezone in P2 Laboratory came to be? For Magneton to evolve, it needs to be in a special magnetic field, and it's far away in Charge Stone Cave.
144	** It ''is'' a lab... they could've artificially generated a similar magnetic field.
145	* In the downloadable "Legendary World Tournament", Fantina's legendary is Giratina, which is in its Origin forme from Platinum. However, it's holding a Ghost Gem instead of the Griseous Orb, how is it maintaining its alternate forme?
146	** TheComputerIsACheatingBastard
147	* So I know there's this one little subquest with that fat guy on Skyarrow Bridge who, if you give him Fresh Water, he dashes to Driftveil Drawbridge, then you can give him Fresh Water there and he'll dash to Tubeline Bridge, and so on, until you meet him at Skyarrow Bridge again and he gives you a dozen Moomoo Milks for free. When I flew to Humilau City to find him in the Marine Tube, I noticed that couple right near the Pokemon Center, who were playing and chasing each other around-the girl there was gone, then I talked to the guy and he gave me a Funfest Mission. And when I was watching Marriland's video on Skyarrow Bridge yesterday, it was the same thing-the girl wasn't there. Does the girl leaving and you getting that mission have any relation to helping the bridge-runner by giving him water?
148	** Nope. Right after you beat the Elite Four for the first time, the Lady leaves. The bridge maniac also separately unlocks after you beat the Elite Four.
149	*** Well, that same day, I remember having saved at Humilau City the previous day before stopping, and still seeing the two chasing each other. Maybe I was just seeing things. I don't know.
150	* So okay. At Giant Chasm, if you talk to [[spoiler:Ghetsis after Kyurem fuses with N's dragon, but before defeating it, he will say "Come now! I want to see your face at the moment you lose all hope! Battle to protect Unova! I've prepared the finest stage, and it's wasted on a bit player like you! Lose and go down in flames!"]] in White 2. It's the same in Black 2. Why it's the same? For White 2 it fits, as [[spoiler:White Kyurem has power over fire, which flames are. But Black Kyurem? Unless Fusion Flare can be carried over from White Kyurem (which is very unlikely) it can't get any Fire-type move aside from Sunny Day, which isn't even offensive]]. For comparison, Black 2 has [[spoiler:Ghetsis]] saying "with you, can shatter ice" ([[spoiler:N's Zekrom]]) while White 2 has "with you, can melt ice" ([[spoiler:N's Reshiram]])
151	** Well, it is an often use metaphor for losing/failing badly. Perhaps the writers just used it without considering that it might have unintended connections to the given the ElementalBaggage involved?
152	* Just how old is Hugh's sister supposed to be, anyway? Given how she apparently remembers [[spoiler: her Purrloin being stolen]] seven years ago, she was probably around [[NoInfantileAmnesia four or five]] when that happened, which would make her eleven or twelve, ''maybe'' ten at the youngest, now. So why does she have one of those "small child" sprites that are about the same size as the Preschooler Trainers? Why not a School Kid or Lass?
153	** Maybe as a subtle hint that just like Hilbert and Hilda in the original BW, Nate, Rosa and Hugh are older than most playable trainers from the previous games?
154	*** Okay, but that still doesn't explain why Hugh's sister's sprite makes her look like she's supposed to be five.
155	** If it helps, the actual number of years ago, at least in the American version, is five. Perhaps she's just a young looking 7-8 year old?
156	* So anyway, you get the Waterfall HM from [[spoiler: N at Victory Road after the Team Plasma plot is wrapped up.]] By this point, your Pokemon will be in the mid fifties range. However, the Abundant Shrine, which is only accessible after getting Waterfall, has wild Pokemon and trainers with Pokemon in the 35-40 range, the same as the surrounding Route 14. [[FlatWhat What.]]
157	** Possibly in case you by some chance get traded a Pokemon with Waterfall. However, there is a Black Belt right before it with three Level 52s, which I also question.
158	* Couldn't Hugh just capture another Purrloin for his sister? Those things are ridiculously common.
159	** That one was special. Not only had [[spoiler: Hugh's late grandfather caught it for her]], but that was ''her'' Purrloin. Giving her a ReplacementGoldfish wouldn't magically make things all better. You wouldn't just give someone whose beloved pet had just died/run away/been stolen another one of the same breed and expect them to suddenly stop missing the old one, would you?
160	*** Basically. This very exact question is lampshaded after you and Hugh beat Zinzolin and the grunt in the Plasma Frigate on Route 21 (the part after deactivating the switches in Black 2 or entering the password in White 2):
161	--->'''Zinzolin''': Why can't you understand? There are other Purrloin. Why are you so fixated on this one?
162	--->'''Hugh''': [[spoiler:That's the ONLY Purrloin in the world that my late grandpa caught for my little sister!]]
163	** OP: Oh...well, I hadn't gotten that far quite yet (only on my sixth badge now, the trainers at the Opelucid gym are too tough)...
164	* The nostalgiaish guy at Icirrus City is very nice, as it gives Route 10 music (which is no more), but I question one thing - why he is in house that's winter-only? That makes no sense.
165	** So everything in the game can't be accomplished without at least playing for a while.
166	* Anyone have an explanation for why, in the middle of chasing down Team Plasma, Hugh suddenly stops and refuses to continue until after you defeat Marlon and get your eighth Gym Badge? I could see him not wanting to force you to neglect your own goals for his sake, but why doesn't he go on ahead like he's done so many other times? Besides, the Gym would still be there later, while Team Plasma could have been long gone within an hour.
167	** Well, after the whole frozen Opelucid City thing, Cheren says that he knows where Team Plasma is (near Humilau City) and that he and Hugh plan to investigate. So my guess is because Cheren is already on their trail and can keep in touch with you and Hugh for that. True, if you talk to Hugh before defeating Marlon, he doesn't say anything about Cheren, but still.
168	* So... why exactly do the Elite Four members have the exact same teams in the initial battles as they did in Black and White? They could've easily swapped some around and given them some Pokemon who were on the new Unova Pokedex, but they didn't.
169	** Shauntal did; she replaced her Jellicent with Drifblim.
170	*** Yes, but Drifblim is vastly inferior to Jellicent. As for the original question, they do all get a New Unova Dex Pokemon in Challenge Mode (except Iris). That might not justify much, but still. Speaking of...
171	*** I don't get why they switched it, either. Probably for the people who play Easy Mode. I'm pretty sure she gets Jellicent back on Hard Mode, though. Anyways, it's probably for nostalgia value...''[[FlatWhat One year old nostalgia]]''...
172	*** Shauntal replacing Jellicent makes sense since Marlon already has one, and they probably didn't want to give the same Pokémon to two different major battles.
173	*** At the same time, Ghetsis has Cofagrigus and Hydreigon (also used by Shauntal and Iris respectively), though they swapped Bouffalant and Bisharp from his previous team (used by Hugh and Grimsley respectively) for Drapion and Toxicroak (the former of which can't be seen at all elsewhere prior to post-game).
174	*** Not to mention both Alder and N have a Vanilluxe, and both Alder and Ghetsis have a Bouffalant; and in [=B2W2=] Alder trades 4 of his team for something to represent his Elite Four members in the PWT, using Chandelure and Conkeldurr, both of which are signatures. Plus, Grimsley and Clay both have members of the Sandile family in their team. I just think it's dumb to replace an amazing Water/Ghost wall with a simple Drifblim that only has Aftermath as something different than Jellicent.
175	* Is it just me, or does Iris' Haxorus in the initial battle ALWAYS use Earthquake and not Dual Chop, unless you have out something that resists it or is weak to Dual Chop or X-Scissor?
176	** I think that that thing may be on an AIRoulette, like a lot of trainer Pokemon are occasionally. At any rate, Haxorus is still [[GlassCannon plenty strong enough as it is]], and [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome Earthquake]] is likely to strike more fear into metagamers than the attack that's both stronger by 20 points of STAB and able to bypass Sturdy.
177	*** Well, my guess at first was the fact that Dual Chop is technically weaker than Earthquake, not counting STAB or both hits, being only 60 power with one hit of it and STAB, but that is a possibility as well.
178	* Since Brycen uses a Vullaby when you remake the first Brycenman movie, how does that not count it in the Pokedex? Same goes for all other Pokemon that costars use in Pokestar movies. In the original Black and White, you couldn't see Rufflet or Vullaby without trading, or Mandibuzz in White (but Cynthia had a Braviary for Black owners). At least you can see both Braviary and Mandibuzz from the two Veterans in Victory Road, but what i'm trying to get to is that I don't get why the Pokemon your costars use aren't added to your Pokedex afterwards.
179	** The same reason it doesn't work in battle facilities?
180	** I'm pretty sure that Game Freak bans the Pokedex from recording stuff in any battles where you can't use items because then it'd be too simple to abuse the Global Trade Center until you have all 649 Pokemon recorded. After all, the games are supposed to encourage people to find a way to trade from other games, whether it's through making friends, or [[BribingYourWayToVictory spending 300 bones on a new DS and more Pokemon games]].
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182	* What's up with Giovanni's characterization in the PWT? In RBYFRLG, he seemed to treat the protagonist as a WorthyOpponent. Here? He's so openly hostile, he may as well be a CardCarryingVillain. I'm guessing, if the HGSS Celebi event is canon, that his mental state must not be in the best of shape after having all of his plans foiled by young trainers, but it's almost like he's a completely different character, spewing out lines that make him sound like a whiney child when he loses.
183	** In all honesty, you should probably not consider anything that happens in the PWT as canon or sensible. I mean, FTLOG, Blue is representative of Champion instead of being Gym Leader in Giovanni's place, and there's no Koga to be found anywhere. Plus, there's freaking RED running around, too.
184	*** Why shouldn't it be canon? It could just be that, in the time between HGSS and [=B2W2=], Giovanni changed his mind and returned to his Gym, thus restoring Blue's Champion status. Koga doesn't appear simply because he's part of the Kanto Elite Four and no trainer from the Elite Four battles in the PWT. As for Red, well, he's there because he's the freaking Champion of Kanto along with Blue. If that sounds weird remember that Hoenn, too, has two Champions, Wallace and Steven.
185	*** Interestingly, if you lose to Giovanni in PWT, he's rather respectful. He'll compliment the intense battle he just had and will state that he wishes to meet the player again.
186	*** To add on to that, if you beat him then win said PWT, and talk to him in the lobby, all he really says is that "you'll lose someday", not to anyone in particular, but that it'll happen. And let's face it, that might not happen outside of the battle facilities, but in them, it's bound to.
187	* Does the Red Card activate even against non-contact moves? Because I watched Marriland's video of Areas 8-10 of the White Treehollow, and against the Thundurus that the boss in Area 8 had, his Camerupt used Stone Edge (which is definitely not a contact move) and it triggered the Thundurus' Red Card. So is its in-game description incorrect?
188	** It activates on any attack move, not just contact.
189	*** Well, I read on Bulbapedia and Serebii, both of which say that it activates on contact, but nothing on non-contact moves, so I thought only those were included.
190	*** Maybe it's a screw-up with [=B2W2=]'s code. I mean, Cursed Body works on all attack moves randomly, even though it's only supposed to be on Direct Attacks with a 100% success rate like Rough Skin, unless another move is disabled at that time.
191	* Where is Hilbert/Hilda? Did Kyurem kill them?
192	** Postgame content reveals that they're perfectly fine. [[spoiler: They've left Unova to search for N. The rates for long-distance calls on the Xtransceiver must be hideously expensive or something, though, considering how apparently nobody tried to get in touch with them during the game...]]
193	*** Or better yet, [[spoiler: N doesn't know their Xtranciever number, and it's not like he could exactly fly in on top of Zekrom/Reshiram into Nuvema Town, walk up to Hilbert/Hilda's mom, and ask for their number.]] Anyways, I thought it was supposed to be N that left, according to Looker...
194	*** N ''did'' leave. He came back to Unova because [[spoiler: Zekrom/Reshiram sensed that Kyurem was in pain, and he wanted to do what he could to help it. It's just that at some point after him leaving in B/W and before he returned, Hilbert/Hilda left Unova to go looking for him.]]
195	*** And now, [[spoiler: N has left once again in order to go track them down.]]
196	*** No he hasn't. [[spoiler: He's still in the ruins of his castle, waiting there to do nothing but challenge you to seasonal battles with Dream World Pokemon. The only time he leaves is to go on the Ferris Wheel with you on Fridays.]]
197	*** For gameplay purposes, yes; he sticks around. But after you defeat him in a seasonal battle, he says [[spoiler: "I will set off on another journey. There are still many Pokémon in the world I should talk to. And there is also a Trainer I want to tell how I feel..."]]
198	*** I assume [[spoiler: N is doing that because he knows Hilbert/Hilda will be informed sooner or later and return back to Unova. I assume he talked to Looker or the mother of Hilbert/Hilda offscreen or something]].
199	*** How could they possibly be informed? They could be anywhere by now, maybe even in Orre! Oh, wait, Arizona's not as far as everywhere else, so...yeah, I haven't a clue what could be defined as far away.
200	* If Yancy/Curtis is in love with Nate/Rosa, then why don't they admit that they're basically this world's equivalent to Hannah Montana?
201	** Because, if Hannah Montana exists in the [=PokeUniverse=], then Nancy/Christoph would be afraid of their relationship becoming Jake and Miley all over again. As in, breaking up and getting back together again. Not the cheating and leaving to do a movie and helicopters and having Nan Nancy/Christoph dress up like a goose and have fake armpit hair... Never mind.
202	*** Pffffft...But in all seriousness, Nate/Rosa can potentially become famous themselves. Maybe they could've made an expansive sideplot with them through unlocking a movie series after a certain rank along with getting call #51 from Yancy/Curtis and trading at least once, and beating Iris the first time, of course. But then again, that would require a non-mute protagonist. Actually, why shouldn't the next game have a talking protagonist? Or the next spinoff have sequences like Megaman ZX Advent?
203	** I figured it was just at first them not wanting the player character's opinion and relationship with them to be influenced by their fame so they purposely avoided it, and once they accidentally answer your call in their work clothes they just assumed you'd figured it out--and since you're still acting normal to them, it doesn't matter to you--and so nothing more needed to be said about it.
204	*** Although they try to play it off as their "coworker" answering (and they dont do a good job at being convincing), so since thats the last thing that happens, everything else is left to imagination. Since we all realize they're really a popstar/reporter that means technically the player themselves realizes it, so any kind of talk between them about it after that is for fanfics.
205	* Nosepass will evolve upon leveling up while in Chargestone Cave. Nosepass now ''live'' in Chargestone Cave, How are they not all evolved?
206	** Do wild Pokemon even fight enough to level up very often? In any case, blablabla GameplayAndStorySegregation.
207	** Same thing happened in Platinum, with Nosepass living in Mt. Coronet. Maybe wild Pokémon have some kind of B-Button-type evolution cancelling that trainers do? You can often find Pokémon over the level they evolve at, so I'm guessing the same thing applies to area-evolutions like Nosepass.
208	* Is there some kind of FridgeBrilliance attached to N's OT number being 00002? Or is it completely random? I mean, according to the latest Tajiri interview, the man clearly didn't seem to have thought the meaning of anything his developers put in, so perhaps all of the series' FridgeBrilliance is sheer coincidence. Or maybe Tajiri never played the games his company develops...
209	** Just because Tajiri didn't know it doesn't mean it was totally random. That said, I haven't heard anything official about it either, though I like to think that the 00002 symbolizes how N was [[UnwittingPawn "second"]] [[ItsAllAboutMe to Ghetsis]] in his real plan.
210	*** Tajiri hasn't been intimately involved in the series in years, mostly serving in a loose advising role and sticking to himself. Masuda is the mastermind behind every game since Gen 3.
211	* The final battle against Colress (the one in which he [[spoiler:gives you Master Ball]])... It's 72/72/72/72/72/74 on Normal Mode, and 76/76/76/76/76/78 on CM... only that in CM rematches, all Pokémon ''de''level up, having team of 75/75/75/75/75/77. [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Colress ColressOKAY.png]]
212	** Scrolling down the link a bit, it seems to have been answered. Apparently, it's correct in the Japanese version, staying at 76-78, and the "de-leveling" is an oversight or error of some sort in the US version. So there's your answer.
213	* The last Giant Woman movie. I know that if you're playing as a girl, Monica is your sister, but those playing as a boy (like me) have her as your girlfriend instead. Here's the good ending for that movie if you're playing as a boy: [[spoiler:Monica remains big, but slowly returns to her normal size. ''Very'' slowly. So you live with her at this size. And you and her aren't equal footing again until you're both old.]] And if you're playing as a girl: [[spoiler:Monica returns to normal size and you and her are happily reunited.]] Am I the only one who was seriously bothered by that? If the girl [[spoiler:has ThePowerOfLove return Monica to her normal size]], then why is that not the same for the boy? It might just be me, but I found that quite {{Squick}}-worthy.
214	** Well, the boy and the woman have a different relationship then the girl and the woman. Clearly, the boy could have left her and find another girlfriend. There are always more fish in the sea. But the boy stuck by her side, even when she was freakishly huge. Because he loved her more then any other woman. So it's more romantic. The other story is less so a romance and more so a friendship tale or something. That, or maybe the story writers for the movies just had a giantess fetish.
215	* Do the Pokemon you can get in the Dream Radar have an equal chance of being male or female like most others? Because i've gotten an unusually high amount of female Justified Riolu and Super Luck Togepi (especially the former) from it, and both those two have a 7 male/1 female ratio normally.
216	** I think they're all female.
217	** No, for the most part, it's just random.
218	* So when I was in Pinwheel Forest investigating with Cheren, I ran into a patch of shaking grass that had two Audino-one Level 64, and one Level 54. I know the same thing happened with Marriland in the Japanese version, but is that a glitch or something?
219	** Wait, what? Pinwheel Forest is a post-game area. Also, which version were you playing, because if it was Black 2, then it's fine, but if it's White 2, then it shouldn't happen.
220	* In the original Black/White, N's final team at the Team Plasma castle is made up of the opposite legendary dragon, Zoroark, Archeops, Carracosta, Klinklang and Vanilluxe. Why are these Pokemon not available to find in the wild like the other Pokemon N used?
221	** [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Because he cares for them and could not part with them.]]
222	** Also, most of those (especially the fossils) don't really have a lot of logical places they could show up. Though I suppose arguments could be made for Klinklang in Chargestone Cave and Vanilluxe in Giant Chasm, the others would kinda require some [[HandWave handwaving]] to show up in the wild somewhere.
223	* On looking at it, the fact that the Gym Leaders are holding an International Tournament, and the Elite Four are not. The former are implied to be pillars of their respective communities, among other things. The latter just sit around all day (along with the champions when there's no Evil Team to threaten the world) waiting for some punk kid to beat up on the former. Which group do you think would actually have the time to devote to such (relative) trivialities? Conversely, what's going on with the Regional Leagues during this tournament when all the Gym Leaders from Poke-Japan are in Unova? Who's teaching the HM skills? Is there a Pokethon Olympiad or a [[Franchise/HarryPotter Quad-Trainer Tournament]] on the other side of the ocean?
224	** Well... someone has to stay and watch the regions. Maybe the Elite Fours ''do'' step up more when the gym leaders are out? Also, the [=HMs=] mostly seem to apply to the player characters only (see all the swimmers who apparently don't need Surf, and so on), so that might be less of a problem that it looks like.
225	* Apparently after you defeat Lance, he says "But it's an odd feeling. I'm not angry that I lost. In fact, I feel happy. Happy that I witnessed the rise of a great new Champion!" [[WelcomeToCorneria Wait, Lance, what? What Champion? It's not Johto League. Did you had a visit in Corneria, or what?]]
226	** Perhaps he's talking about your becoming the Unova Champion. Or maybe hoping that you'll become the Champion of the Champions Tournament.
227	* When [[spoiler:Ghetsis orders Kyurem to freeze you]], why does your character just stand there and not engage in a battle?
228	** A teenager (pre-teen?) going into shock and panic, the attack happening too fast, the PC not wanting to put their Pokemon in harm's way... pick one.
229	*** Perhaps the first is most logical. The attack took time to charge and sending a Pokemon against the much stronger White/Black Kyurem was an option.
230	** [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief Because it's a cutscene]].
231	** [[ElementalRockPaperScissors Type charts.]] My lead the first time I played this section was a Flygon. Sure, the second time I fought it, I led with a Weavile, but if the game really implemented this, there would be Pokemon we'd honestly question using as options. And there would be over 649 models to pick from, if they weren't already made.
232	* What N says to you before he leaves always bothered me, because I don’t know if this is just N’s opinion or if it’s GameFreak speaking through N, but how are Poke Balls in anyway “oppressive”? In hindsights, they’re just fancy versions of collars for real-life pets. They don’t brainwash them or make them into victims of Stockholm-Syndrome, nor does it force them to fight against their wills, because the series has already made it clear that Pokemon enjoy fighting as much as people do, regardless if they’re wild or have been caught. There’s even the fact that Pokemon, especially Legendaries who are far more sentient than most Pokemon, actively want you to capture them with a Poke Ball. If anything, Poke Balls are kinda necessary; they serve as an easy-to-carry method for your Pokemon, it can protect them in moments when they’re unable to fend for themselves, they help marked the Pokemon to let other trainers know they’re your partners so that you won’t have to worry about anyone unintentionally stealing them, and info about the Poke Balls shows that they’re designed to make them as comfortable for Pokemon as possible when they’re inside them, and allows them to go into places where they’re can not normally fit in with their normal-sized bodies. Also, they react to events which makes it clear that they know what’s going on outside of their Poke Balls, and it’s even clear that they can come out by themselves if they want to; so again, the point is that they do not suffer from AndIMustScream. Now, whatever possible negative implications you can make with them, I think Poke Balls overall do more good than any possible harm. Now granted, it is possible to have Pokemon be your friends without Poke Balls, but such events only happen under certain circumstances. If N still has a problem with Poke Balls, then why does he still keep his Pokemon inside of them? Again, I don’t know if this is simply N’s opinion, or it’s what GameFreak is trying to say through N, but if it’s the latter, then wouldn’t that mean that N and Team Plasma were right all along, and wouldn’t that mean end of the franchise? Again, I don’t know, so I’m looking for some clarification.
233	** I think there's overwhelming support in-universe for "just N's opinion". We've had five generations of apricorns and luxury balls and walking Pokemon in Amity Park and fighting over the Master Ball--it's come to be one of those rules of the universe that requires a [[Main/WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief willing suspension of disbelief]], alongside "Pokemon like fighting" and "battling with them strengthens your friendship". Don't forget that N is still shaking off years and years of abuse and mental conditioning that human contact with Pokemon is bad--he can't even go into his room at the end of the game, it's that painful for him. But Game Freak definitely wants us to think hard about it and come up with ways to explore the idea: if fans hadn't, who would've come up with the Nuzlocke challenge?
234	*** It's ''definitely'' N's opinion on the matter. Him holding that opinion is why he has white knight uniform Team Plasma still up and running: they want to improve human-Pokemon relationships to a point where one day there'll be no need for Pokeballs since Pokemon and humans could naturally trust one another enough. That's something I find so great about the character: they allow him to have an opinion that doesn't agree with the majority of in-universe characters and might not agree with players, but still treat it like a valid view. Having the belief that Poke Balls are oppressive and restrictive towards Pokemon itself was never a bad thing: what was portrayed as wrong was N and Team Plasma's actions of trying to ''force'' their way of thinking on to ''everyone else'', which is not how the world should work. The sequel shows the result of CharacterDevelopment from N and the remaining Plasma members. N says "I still don't like the idea of Pokemon being cooped up in those balls, but I'll let you do it if that's what you prefer", and Team Plasma ditch their extremist ways and are now fighting for Pokemon's rights in a more civilized, negotiable way. After all, acceptance, not rejection, of differing beliefs is what creates a chemical reaction and formula for changing the world.
235	* Why is it that people think the AI in this game has gotten better than the original Black and White? If you ask me, it really doesn't feel very good. I've had foes use moves that aren't very effective repeatedly, even when i'm at full health, and on rare occasion they've used moves that don't affect me. For instance, I was just battling a Preschooler in Pinwheel Forest, and his Ferrothorn used Selfdestruct on my Golurk which was six levels lower and probably could have killed me with Power Whip. And this was on Challenge Mode, no less. (Interestingly, though, the Nursery Aide right near him switched out her Chansey against said Golurk.) Maybe it's something i'm not seeing, but the AI doesn't feel improved at all. (To be fair, I didn't find it that great in the original BW either, and in DP they weren't that smart either.) Platinum is the only game i've played where I can say the AI is actually decent.
236	** It's a ''Preschooler''. What are the chances it's a battling prodigy? As far as I know, at least in [=B2W2=] Trainers have difficulty value, ranging from 0 (picks everything by random, it could as well kill its ally if it happened to be a Double Battle) to 15. Somewhere there I also found more:
237	--->+1: not choose moves have no effect at the time
238	--->+2: remember moves that the opponent's pokémon used
239	--->+4: if AI's pokémon has a move that can beat the opponent in this turn, choose it
240	--->+8: if AI's pokémon has a status move, choose it on the first turn
241	*** Admittedly, I guess I can understand why a Preschooler wouldn't be very knowledgable compared to, say, Ace Trainers or Veterans (for what it's worth, I can say that those trainers actually ''try''). But have you found anything like that in previous games (like Platinum or BW)? Also, having played through Platinum again recently, I can say the trainers there aren't as smart as I recall them being. I guess i'm more used to thinking it's the Champions and such that have more advanced AI than normal trainers. However, i've had even important battles like Cynthia and Nishino use moves that don't affect me. I hardly ever see that in any other games, so I don't get how people claim the AI here is better.
242	* Any idea why Cheren is a normal type trainer now instead of a dark type trainer? He had the right name (Cheren means black, and black is the Dark type's color) his primary pokemon other than his starter and elemental monkey is Purrloin/Liepard, which takes the same damage from Fire/Water/Grass, and is still weak to fighting like normal is. Other than the fact that Grimsly is still a E4 member I can't think of a reason why Cheren couldn't be the Dark Type Gym Leader. And really that's never stopped them before.
243	** Someone theorized on the Fridge page that it's supposed to symbolize him "going back to the basics." Plus, his last "main" Pokémon was the Pidove family, ''Normal''/Flying (and he even has a Pidove on Challenge Mode).
244	** He can't use his old Pokemon as a Gym Leader. As a teacher, he needs to set an easy, generic standard for his students to base their skills on; i.e. Normals.
245	* I know that on Challenge Mode, the movesets of the trainers are the same as in Normal Mode (except against Gym Leaders and Iris), regardless of if they would learn a new move by level-up, but are the stats as well? Because in Marriland's White 2 Adventure when he battled Iris, his Mienshao was slower than both her Hydreigon and Haxorus, and Ghetsis' Hydreigon as well (which killed him in one hit without a crit). But on Challenge Mode, i've watched a few videos where the Hydreigon gets outsped by things like Leavanny and even ''Garbodor'' (which isn't even that fast). So are the stats the same as in the latter?
246	** EV training, most likely. That, and the fact storyline Pokemon are never properly EV trained. Until X and Y's new features, that is.
247	* So, in one of the Time Gate Traveler movies in Pokestar Studios, the main character can be captured by a Human Ball and become a willing slave to Queen Ledian. Does this mean that Poke Balls forcibly override Pokemon to be willing slaves?
248	** It's just a movie, and it's not even a Pokéball, so there's no reason to believe a Pokéball and a "Human Ball" work the same way.
249	* Does Cheren have a personal vendetta against [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes Pansear]] or something? I grinded for Pansage, Pansear and Panpour in the Pinwheel Forest while I had Cheren, and he was nice enough to take out the Audino for Pansage and Panpour. I think I only got the Pansear because I found two of them at once: [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper he kept killing the Pansear when the Audino/Pansear combination showed up...]]
250	** It's probably just bad luck?
251	* Was anyone else annoyed we weren't told how these new towns had suddenly appeared out of nowhere? I expected people to mention how Lentimas Town had only been recently established, or how there had been a landslide on Victory Road, but it just wasn't brought up. Or am I just overly picky about backstory?
252	** Until Undella Town became connected with Reversal Mountain, Lentimas Town was ''completely isolated'' from the rest of Unova by foot, and likely not a point of interest for trainers (As long as it already existed. I think two years is enough time for a town like Lentimas to be developed). Similarly, Humilau City with the Marine Tube and the Giant Chasm, though this one has a better excuse when you consider how comparatively rudimentary its infrastructure is towards other cities - it could be a touristic resort that was recently repurposed. Now, about the landslide on Route 10, I guess there's nothing to explain - it just happened. It must have not happened recently due to the way the new Victory Road entrance looks like, and given that N's Castle is buried underground, maybe... maybe ''that'' was the cause?
253	** Additionally, it's implied that the "new" cities in southwest Unova were really always there (Hugh has lived in Aspertia for at least five years, Alder lives in Flocessy and there's a Memory Link there, Brycen's always worked for Pokéstar Studios, etc.). We just didn't get to go there in the original [=BW=] because Hilbert/Hilda simply never caught a boat to that area. (A similar thing could be said for the Hidden Grottoes, now that I think about it: Hilbert/Hilda simply never noticed them.)
254	* How can the musician on Route 5 refuse to battle you? The player doesn't have a choice but to accept challenges, why on earth does the player just allow this douche to say "no".
255	** Well, he's a musician and wants to see you with the Electric Guitar prop, so that might explain.
256	** That's the explanation he gives, in a rather snobby and dismissive manner. It's impossible for the player to say "look. My pokemon are either fainted or low on health, so would you kindly allow me to heal up before this battle?" The player is ''forced'' to take any challenge no matter the situation, and it's explicitly stated in every game I've played (that is all gen I-V games) that eye contact between trainers -> battle. I'm wondering why the player allows this douche to act in that manner, when the rules are eye contact -> battle.
257	** Because his main passion is music, not battling :^)
258	* How come multiple in-universe and real-time years can pass by without Trisha ever having given birth to her child? I know I'll most likely get "GameplayAndStorySegregation" as a response, but that's not the answer I'm looking for.
259	** That's the ONLY answer you can get. You should know this by now.
260	** ...[[WildMassGuessing Different babies]]? Though that also raises issues if you check in on her every year, since that'd be one baby every year, but still. It's an idea.
261	* When you're about to fight Black/White Kyurem, Ghetsis says that "his cane emits signals that disrupt the function of all Poké Balls!" If that's the case, then how can you battle Kyurem and Him. If his cane does block the functions, then how do they open to release the pokemon?
262	** If it ''did'' block the release mechanism, that would have been ''[[FridgeLogic incredibly]]'' [[VillainBall stupid]] of him. Sure, it would keep the player from sending out Pokémon against him, but Ghetsis wouldn't be able to send out his own Pokémon, either. The cane kinda [[AWizardDidIt runs on magic]] as its only "sensible" explanation, anyway, so Ghetsis probably intentionally found some way to keep ''capturing'' from working without blocking ''releasing'', too.
263	* So we get to see what Kyurem looks like when fused with either Reshiram or Zekrom, but why not fused with both of them together? They're both fragments of what Kyurem used to be, and they both canonically exist in both versions of G5. So wouldn't that mean both Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are still incomplete forms of the original pokemon. Are we gonna have to wait until some later-gen remake just to see the full dragon?
264	** Ghetsis only had one DNA Splicer. Can't "absofuse" both of them with only one Splicer.
265	** There's also the fact that the BW protagonist owns the other dragon and no-one has any idea where they are. N at least knew to show up because he could understand his dragon telling him Kyurem was in trouble--presumably the old protagonist lacks this ability(on top of there being no guarantee of them having the dragon on their team--using it against N is completely optional, after all) and therefore would have no reason to think to fly to where Kyurem was waiting like N did. On top of needing another DNA Splicer, he'd also need the other dragon there which is impossible.
266	* The map descriptions and appearance of Reversal Mountain differ between games, which is fine, but the map descriptions seem to be backwards. In ''Black 2'', the mountain is full of water, yet the map says it's had several recent eruptions. In ''White 2'', the mountain is full of lava, yet the map says there hasn't been an eruption in ages. Wouldn't being full of lava point to more activity and no lava point to less, not vice versa? (Admittedly, I'm no geologist so don't take my assumption as gospel--it just seems logical.)
267	** ''Reversal'' Mountain. ''Reversed'' descriptions. It's a pun.
268	* Why is it that Nate/Rosa are able to "see" events they weren't present for when we use Memory Link? Of course in the meta sense it's because showing us players the cutscenes is a lot simpler and more effective than having an NPC just talk about a thing, but what's the in-game explanation?
269	** It's just GameplayAndStorySegregation, probably.
270	* After you beat Cheren, Bianca meets with you to give the TM for Return. Afterwards, Cheren steps out of the Gym to say hello to Bianca and to say it's been two years, which suggests they haven't seen each other since then. They're close friends, aren't they? Have they not talked to each other in two years?
271	* For the Pokestar Studio movie series Giant Woman, Monica is your girlfriend if you are playing as Nate. I don't think they ever mention Nate's and Rosa's ages, but I assume they are probably 14 like Hilda and Hilbert were in Black and White. Monica seems to be in her early 20s. The age difference between Nate's character and Monica is jarring especially if Nate as an actor is under 18 so why didn't they also make Monica Nate's sister in the movies just like she would be if you are playing as Rosa? Even if Nate is playing an adult character in the Giant Woman movies, he doesn't look to be adult passing.
272	* When you make a lot of movies in Pokéstar Studios, you'll eventually get an elderly woman as a fan. Every time you make a good film, she'll tell you that, "Your last film made me laugh so much, my dentures fell out of my mouth!", even when the movie you just made wasn't a comedy. Is she going senile?
273	** Even movies that aren't comedies can have funny bits.
274	*** [[NarmCharm Or it was unintentionally funny.]]

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