| 1 | [[WMG: Why don't any of the windows have screens?]] |
| 2 | Don't they mostly use air conditioners and not open windows very much? |
| 3 | |
| 4 | ** ... because that would a pain to draw consistently all the time?? |
| 5 | ** Because it's Texas and that probably wouldn't help very much anyway. |
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| 7 | [[WMG:Lost in Website/MySpace.]] |
| 8 | * At the end of the episode Hank asked Donna why she was so mad but didn't she just get fired? Wouldn't that it self be a good reason to be angry? |
| 9 | |
| 10 | ** Donna did organize a flash mob that impeded on the business caused a riot and got Buck Strickland beaten up they had every right to fire her. |
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| 12 | [[WMG:Bobby Cooking.]] |
| 13 | * In the episode where Bill has a family reunion Hank hated the idea of Bobby cooking but in a Thanksgiving episode Hank was OK with Bobby cooking I mean not at first but still and no one said anything about that episode. |
| 14 | ** AesopAmnesia, StatusQuoIsGod. |
| 15 | ** I always felt like it was because Hank wanted Bobby to cut the turkey, implying turkey cutting was manly |
| 16 | ** Actually Hank approved of Bobby being a pit hand since "it's not cooking it's barbecue" The real head scratcher is how can Hank like meats that weren't grilled with propane? |
| 17 | ** Hank has been shown to make occasional exceptions for other heating materials, such as mesquite. |
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| 19 | [[WMG:Hank and Dale making fun of Bill in uniform]] |
| 20 | * In Texas City Twister, when the twister approaches Arlen, Hank and Dale start making fun of Bill when he's in his army uniform. Bill claims he doesn't mind them making fun of him normally, but he doesn't want it done when he's in uniform. In essence, he's asking them to show respect for sergeant Bill Dauterive, or at the very least, the US Army. Dale I can understand disrespecting any institution of the US federal government, but why would patriotic conservative Hank Hill keep making fun of Bill, even when Bill is in uniform? It seems very much out of character. |
| 21 | ** Hank is a ''nineties'' conservative and patriot, and the constant adulating and worshipping of the military is very much a post-2001 phenomenon. Even the conservatives in the nineties were a little disdainful of the military, and saw it as, at best, just another job, or, at worst, a line of work you went into when you'd failed out of the real world. Also, Hank is used to seeing Bill and Bill in uniform is still just Bill to him. |
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| 23 | [[WMG:Why does Hank look so sad in the title card?]] |
| 24 | |
| 25 | Hank's character is uptight, and the title card is just expressing that. |
| 26 | * Actual it was just the early animation. Bobby and Peggy look just as dead on close up. |
| 27 | * The title card is supposed to pay homage to the painting ''American Gothic''. The father and his daughter there look just as depressed. |
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| 29 | [[WMG: If Hank's father, and pretty much every authority figure in his life (e.g. Buck Strickland) is a rule-breaking, womanizing misogynist, occasionally violent jerk, then how did he become such a stick in the mud in the first place?]] |
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| 31 | It's the same problem as WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers, how can someone raised by a cynical father, surrounded by cynical people, be so optimistic? Where does Hank get it from? |
| 32 | * It's a form of rebellion against their parents. Plus, his mother is shown to be something of a stick in the mud, too. |
| 33 | * FreudianExcuse. Cotton would scream at Hank any time he ever showed the slightest hint of emotion, so it makes sense he'd be more than a little boxed in by the time he grew up. |
| 34 | * Actually, with ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'', it's [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because [[spoiler:the boys are clones, and none seem to be perfect]]. |
| 35 | ** He was raised by Cotton, so everything else prolly ain't shit in comparison to his childhood. |
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| 37 | [[WMG:Why is it that even though they're both in their teens, Joseph is feeling the full force of puberty and thus showing all the classic signs of it, but so far it's had little effect on Bobby? (''Besides'' the Main/RuleOfFunny)]] |
| 38 | * It's been explained that Bobby is a late bloomer. |
| 39 | ** Thanks. |
| 40 | * This was, in fact, the subject of an entire episode. |
| 41 | ** It was also a semi-stealthy way of introducing Joseph's new VA. |
| 42 | * There was that episode where Bobby was caught smoking. Peggy had said that smoking stunts your growth and sure enough Bobby's punishment was to smoke a whole box's worth of cigarettes. |
| 43 | ** Does smoking ''actually'' do that? And given the amount o second hand smoke that Joseph was exposed to, shouldn't he be just as tall as Bobby by that logic? |
| 44 | * Because as mentioned, people go through puberty at different rates. And as for how Joseph could be so tall yet Bobby not... well, that's plausible. When I was in high school, there was a 10th grader who was about as tall as [[Anime/YuGiOh Yugi Motou]], sounded like he was ten years old, and he was older than my brother. When I attended my brother's graduation two years later, and they called the short kid's name... he's freaking ''six foot six'' and his voice was barely recognizable. Puberty sometimes hits people really fast. |
| 45 | ** It can also hit people pretty early. There was a 5th grader who was 5'11" - the height you would expect of a ''high school senior'' and his voice already started dropping. The next tallest person (me) at the time was 5' EVEN. |
| 46 | * Let's not forget that Connie only had her period. She never developed the other signs of puberty. |
| 47 | ** Connie wears a relatively baggy shirt and doesn't get much chance to show off any curvature. At the same time, 13 is pretty late for a girl to start her period in this day and age, and Minh is not exactly an hourglass herself, so it seems Connie is probably just a fairly shapeless girl (who also prefers to dress somewhat boyish) who will remain that way even as puberty progresses. |
| 48 | ** Actually, wasn't Connie 12 in that episode she started her period? If my memory serves, she was 12 and the she didn't turn 13 until ''after'' that. |
| 49 | * WordOfGod states they were going to have an arc where Bobby starts puberty, but that meant getting rid of Pamela Adlon, since she couldn't make Bobby sound older. They grew too attached to her, so they just went with Bobby was a late bloomer. |
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| 51 | [[WMG:Why can't they just let Cotton stay in the mental asylum?]] |
| 52 | * It's too late for that; he's dead. |
| 53 | * In any case, he was not a threat to himself or others. |
| 54 | ** He once brandished a circular saw at a man for no good reason, and once put a handgun in the hands of an infant. How is that not a threat? |
| 55 | *** His Cadillac was being repossessed, so in his mind, he had a reason. Not that that makes it okay to saw up someone... |
| 56 | ** Don't forget him hijacking a parade float and almost running down innocent people, planning to frame his son for Fidel Castro's death while him and his buddies assassinate Castro themselves, using his pregnant wife in a convoluted plot to kill Castro, and fired a nail-gun at Jimmy Carter's limo. (Granted, Jimmy gave Cotton permission to shoot, but anyone who fantasizes about firing upon a president is clearly sick in the head.) |
| 57 | *** Actually in that episode Cotton never fantasized about firing on Jimmy Carter. Cotton had some nails left in the magazine and Carter said he could fire them at his "bullet proof" limo. It was just a way to sweeten the pot to get Cotton out of that house. |
| 58 | *** Everyone seems to be overlooking the event leading up to Cotton firing nails into Jimmy Carter's presidential limo, namely holing up in a Habitat for Humanity because he was jealous of his son's boss and destroying most of the house out of spite. However, the main reason I'd say Cotton isn't institutionalized is that his son's sense of dignity, honor and warped love that he'd never let his dad get institutionalized and would probably find a way to avoid getting him put in. |
| 59 | ** Let's not forget the episode where some nut let Cotton have a bullwhip, of all things, and threatening people (using a juicer on Bill's chest). |
| 60 | ** ''And'' the mention that he once threw a grenade at Peggy. "Granted it was a 'practice grenade,' but it's still a ''very'' hostile gesture." |
| 61 | ** Hank at one point mentioned Cotton would mix mustard gas in his house every year to celebrate V-J Day. Just.... what the hell? |
| 62 | * My guess is that Hank has some kind of weird attachment to his father. Judging by the flashbacks, Cotton is the one that raised Hank (I'm guessing that Cotton and Tilly were divorced after Hank's birth and that Cotton won custody), so as bad as his dad is, he just can't find it in his heart to do something like that to his dad. That only applies to Hank though. As for the other characters, especially Peggy, you got me. |
| 63 | * Okay, that explains why he's not in a mental asylum. ... Beyond RuleOfFunny is there any stated reason that Cotton isn't in ''prison?'' |
| 64 | ** Probably because, besides being old, he hasn't really done anything that would land anyone in prison and did misdemeanors at best. In terms of why he wasn't in a mental asylum, well, he's not mentally incompetent and hasn't shown himself to be danger to himself/others (outside of threatening people with tools and weapons) and it is painfully hard to put an adult in an insane asylum (more reasons as to why Hank probably wouldn't want to) |
| 65 | *** Knowing Cotton, he probably would have found his way out of one anyways. |
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| 67 | [[WMG:In the episode where Cotton dies, Didi and G.H. never appear, and none of the other characters notice their absence. What happened to them?]] |
| 68 | * It's implied that they will appear in the 250th episode, which does, in fact, mention Cotton's death. |
| 69 | ** Didi does remarry, or at least finds another boyfriend. I don't remember if they stated anything about G.H. |
| 70 | *** In the episode 'Daletech', Cotton finishes an argument with Didi with "Fine, call your lawyer!" before Didi speeds off and Cotton informing the Hill family Didi has "gone to visit her folks" and telling the family he doesn't know when she will be back, suggesting Didi divorced him and moved. |
| 71 | * Didi ''does'' show up in "''Serves Me Right for giving General George S Patton the Bathroom Key''". She brings Hank a box of Cotton's personal possessions and his will, including the final wish of flushing his ashes down a toilet used by Patton in WWI (which contradicts his securing of a burial plot in a veteran's cemetery) and mentions she got remarried to a wealthy professional wrestler less than a year after Cotton's death and thus had to grieve and celebrate her wedding simultaneously. |
| 72 | ** That still doesn't account for [=GH=] but I kind of figured he's either with her and her new spouse or she gave him away for adoption. |
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| 74 | [[WMG:In the episode "Vision Quest", was it really a good idea to give the field trippers energy drinks?]] |
| 75 | * Middle schoolers are pretty hyper as it is (I should know; I was one myself). I don't know why that part bothers me, but it does. |
| 76 | ** I think Redcorn implied that exhaustion and dehydration were part of the process. Having an energy drink on an empty stomach sounds like a great idea. |
| 77 | *** Two different episodes. OP was talking about the one where the school takes the kids on a field trip to the zoo and the kids get energy drinks (then other stuff happens not involving hyperactive middle schoolers). |
| 78 | *** No Bobby said hey got his energy drink from the gift shop at the zoo and he said he bought the panda bottle the energy drink was unexpected. |
| 79 | *** I think he actually said sport drink, more like Gatorade than Monster or Red Bull. |
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| 81 | [[WMG:You remember that TerribleIntervieweesMontage where the guy explains gaps in his employment history by saying during every Democratic presidency he 'was on the welfare'? He includes the FDR, Kennedy, Johnson and Carter presidencies, but excludes Truman and Clinton. Why?]] |
| 82 | * Clinton signed welfare-to-work into law. |
| 83 | * Back in the Truman years, most able-bodied men were in the middle of the UsefulNotes/KoreanWar. |
| 84 | ** But FDR's presidency was during World War II and Truman was president for five years before the Korean War. |
| 85 | |
| 86 | [[WMG:When the series started, Bobby was 10 and people aged in real time. I thought to myself "wow, they are actually developing characters and things are happening over time. Sweet." Then Bobby turned 13 and time froze for the rest of the series.]] |
| 87 | * Yes, that is what happened. |
| 88 | * From what this troper understands, there was pressure from the network to slow the development and make it less arc oriented. |
| 89 | ** Actually, Bobby was 11 in the pilot episode, turned 12 within the first season, and didn't turn 13 until the fifth season, three years later. While the characters probably should have been a little older by the end of the series, going by that rate, they had never actually aged in real time to begin with. |
| 90 | *** They explained this in-show as Bobby being a late bloomer, supposing the show doesn't run on ComicBookTime. |
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| 92 | [[WMG:Why doesn't anyone just TELL Dale that Joseph isn't his son at all?]] |
| 93 | * I mean, at this point, any idiot can see it. And for that matter, why do people even stay friends with the stupid little bastard? |
| 94 | ** Because he seems genuinely happy in his marriage and proud of Joseph. Frankly, no one has the heart to ruin it for the guy. |
| 95 | ** Joseph doesn't know either. And if either of them found out about them not being related, it would put a major strain on their relationship (remember, they're very close). Plus it would undoubtedly lead to a divorce from Nancy and tear the entire family apart. Also "Any Idiot" ''can't'' just see the Joseph/Redcorn connection- Peggy needed it explained to her. |
| 96 | *** To be fair, Peggy isn't just "any idiot." She's a special kind of idiot. The rest of the reasoning holds up. |
| 97 | ** There's also the factor that Dale isn't entirely stable, something like that could actually make him suicidal or homicidal. Dale would probably not be able to hurt Redcorn but he could hurt himself and do a lot of damage. |
| 98 | ** If you take a look at the Vision Quest episode, you could say Dale's subconscious already knows. In that episode, he has a vision that a bulky, faceless Native American man (like John Redcorn) fathered Joseph. Now, unless magic and spirits are real in the ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'' universe, Dale has to at least subconsciously know John Redcorn is Joseph's father for him to have that vision. It's possible that those thoughts have been pushed to the back of his head because knowing outright would be too distressing. Dale isn't the most mentally stable guy around. |
| 99 | *** He held the local College at slight-amount-of-extermination-gas-point because the thought that JFK was alive & trying to steal his lawn mower. |
| 100 | *** Actually, he was just doing his job (spraying for bugs) and Bill thought he was up there with a gun. Being the paranoid nut he is, he just went with it as a way to get his mower (which he was convinced was part of a government conspiracy) back, intending no harm to anyone. The only hostage he had was Rusty Shackleford (his alternate persona he orders pizzas with). |
| 101 | *** It's hinted that he actually knows about Joseph's origins (the correct one, not the alien theory) but just chose not to bring it up. Despite being a crazy conspiracy theorist and overall nutcase, under all that he's a loving father who would do anything to keep his child happy. However if he did go crazy, it would cause some destruction, since he'd pretty much make everyone else go crazy with him (in the above example, he did say he "killed Shackleford", which the police thought was true and had a sniper ready to blow his brains out. He also almost incited a riot at a Strickland Propane Sale just because he can (much to the anger of Hank). |
| 102 | *** To be fair to Dale, he probably wouldn't get destructively angry (though he might turn suicidal). Nancy and Hank are the two people in the world he trusts more than himself, and we saw what happened when he found out Hank had betrayed him: he snapped right out of his CloudCuckooLand mode and started sinking towards a stunned, realistic DespairEventHorizon. Now imagine that ten times over upon finding out about Nancy's infidelity. It's not so much that they're afraid of what he'd do to anyone else if he found out, just that it'd devastate him and shatter his family. For all his craziness, he really is a devoted father and husband. |
| 103 | *** Does anyone else think that it might not be that big a deal? At first, there's no doubt how the truth would hit Dale (and that's only if he ever chose to accept it). Although not the same scenario, even after Hank betrayed him, Dale still forgave him for stealing his lawnmower. And by this point it would be clear how much Nancy really loves him, so wouldn't it be pointless to leave her? |
| 104 | *** The reason Dale never suspected Nancy to begin with is because he trusts her almost unconditionally (and because he thinks John Redcorn is gay). Whether she's sorry or not; to have that trust abused for more then a decade and finding out the son you love so much genetically isn't yours? I'd say that's a pretty big deal. Although maybe that just makes it all the more important someone tells him. |
| 105 | ** In the episode Hank has the naked grilling dream, Dale tries to throw a toaster into the hot tub Hank and Peggy are in. Over Hank's dream of seeing his wife naked. Its very likely he would get destructively angry if he ever found out the truth. |
| 106 | ** Peggy, at least, backed away from nearly telling Dale about Joseph and the affair because she realized that Dale, despite being a lunatic, is a very loving father to Joseph. And that Joseph, despite looking just like John Redcorn, takes after Dale in personality. Most of the characters, despite thinking Dale is incredibly naive (bordering on stupid, even) for not knowing he's not Joseph's biological father, don't want to destroy their perfectly wonderful father-son relationship. My guess is that someone will accidentally let it slip at some point, and Dale will be devastated for a while, but will ultimately be surprisingly rational and accepting of it. He will probably have a harder time with Nancy. But I think he will eventually forgive her because he honestly loves her so dearly. Heck, she went back to Dale and broke things off with John Redcorn because she let herself see how sweet and loving Dale was to her. |
| 107 | * There's actually a popular fan theory that Dale knew about it the whole time, and is just pretending to be oblivious about it to spite John Redcorn. |
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| 109 | [[WMG:Let me put it this way. Why don't Bobby, Hank, or someone else call out Peggy's idiocy?]] |
| 110 | * It'd make her less the fool, stop embarrassing the entire family, and actually prove to be some good character growth. It'd make SENSE. |
| 111 | ** That was sort of the point of "Peggy's Fan Fair". Peggy was way over the top, and Hank finally called her on it. Although later he rescinds a little when he realizes how much his honesty has hurt her. |
| 112 | ** Like Hank, Peggy's main flaw (her idiocy and refusal to see it) has a FreudianExcuse. Namely that her mom treated her like dirt her whole life and left her with a very deep self-esteem problem. When she moved away from her mom, she coped with this (and overcompensated), by convincing herself she was a genius. Hank doesn't spell it out because he knows that the truth would cripple her. |
| 113 | ** Yes but sometimes it's bad. She once mentioned that her high IQ was an educated guess, made by her. Where does the logic come in? To be fair she was contemplating the ''possibility'' of her being wrong, but coming to a conclusion like that in the first place makes you wonder if she can actually hear herself talk. |
| 114 | *** Part of it's just RuleOfFunny: Peggy's narcissism wouldn't be nearly so funny if she weren't so obliviously brazen about it. But it's also how real life defense mechanisms work. People in denial about themselves aren't in denial because they're unobservant, but because they have an emotional need to be in denial; they're ignoring anything that threatens their defense mechanism in order to keep a very fragile worldview intact. It's frustratingly illogical precisely because logic (at least, straightforward logic) doesn't factor into it. |
| 115 | ** At times, Hank realizes some of her problems, but he doesn't always. If Peggy was a real person, I'd say she suffers from Narcissistic Personality Disorder and she and everyone around her is completely blind to it. She demonstrates many of the characteristics, including putting her personal pride ahead of the well-being of others and her inability to empathize with anyone, like in the episode where Cotton dies. Peggy was in the room when he died. He made some specific requests before he died. Afterward, Peggy keeps the truth from Hank and tells Hank that Cotton changed his mind and wanted a normal funeral. |
| 116 | *** That was more because she hated how even from beyond the grave, Cotton was still managing to treat Hank like crap and make him do his dirty work (he wanted Hank to flush his ashes down a toilet used by George S. Patton). A better example would be when she sabotaged Bobby's turkey dinner because he turned out to be a better cook then her. |
| 117 | *** Ashes nothing (that was a separate episode). In the episode where Cotton died, he requested that Hank ''cut off his head and mail it to Emperor Akihito.'' Peggy defused that request for Hank's own good, because even if it weren't illegal, it'd be quite traumatizing for anyone to have to do that. |
| 118 | *** Actually, Hank knew all about it, and was really going to go through with it until Peggy lied and said he wanted a normal funeral (although that raises the question of what happened to the burial plot he secured in an earlier episode or how Hank and Peggy didn't know he was cremated). |
| 119 | ** The truth of it probably is that Hank has been around her so much that it takes something extreme to really register on his radar. The rest of the family just accept her as she is, because she's been like that the entire time they've been alive, or at least a sizeable chunk of it, and either don't notice or just sigh internally. Anyone else calling her dumb is likely to bounce off her anyway, because of how her self esteem is built. And while she's not as smart as she thinks, she generally can convince people who are on her level of 'kinda dumb' that she is smart. If you don't know that she's wrong, why wouldn't you believe her ? |
| 120 | *** Hank is fairly aware of Peggy's ego. But he knows how important it is to her that she is smart. Also a possible crowning moment of awesome for Luanne occurs when Hank tries to justify Peggy's jerkass behavior when she joins a beauty agent, only for Luanne to coldly respond "I guess I should feel bad for her...but I don't". |
| 121 | ** Sometimes, she does get called on the carpet for how she behaves but she tended to brush it off, so she usually learns the hard way. Hank being, well, Hank sounds like he'd subscribe to the "Learn the Hard Way" mentality, so he probably doesn't call her out on her nonsense as much because, well, she's gonna learn the hard way. |
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| 123 | [[WMG:Why does Dale of all people send his child to a ''government'' school?]] |
| 124 | * Even ignoring the horrible quality of the US Government schools, Dale has a distrust of the government, why would he allow them to watch after his child for hours a day? |
| 125 | ** They probably couldn't afford private school, and if Dale ever got any ideas about homeschooling Joseph, I'm sure Nancy talked him out of it. |
| 126 | ** Not all public schools are bad. Some are perfectly nice places that provide quality education. |
| 127 | *** That sounds ''suspiciously'' like a programmed response. :p |
| 128 | ** Joseph actually gets into a private school in one episode, mostly because he's good at sports. But of course, the other parents and the Booster Club wouldn't have any of it because Joseph was important on a sports team. |
| 129 | ** Dale probably thinks that the Government's own schooling program is so bad he doesn't need to worry about Joseph being sucked into the system. FridgeBrilliance on someone's part (can't exactly tell who). |
| 130 | ** Or, since Dale's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it might not have occurred to him that public schools are government run. |
| 131 | ** Or perhaps Dale thinks that having his kid in public school helps him stay under the radar. Big Brother isn't likely to pay attention to just another kid in public school. |
| 132 | ** Dale is one of the biggest hypocrites in the show and has shown to be okay with government operations when it suits him. Examples being "De-Kahnstructing Henry" where he's seen recieving welfare checks under "Rusty Shackleford" and "The Texas Skillsaw Massacre" where he tells Hank as much as he likes to scoff at the law, he will also enforce it. |
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| 134 | [[WMG:Why doesn't Hank see Buck Strickland for the PointyHairedBoss that he is?]] |
| 135 | * To say Buck Strickland has little respect for his employees would be an understatement. He once attempted to '''FRAME HANK FOR MURDER'''. Yet Hank worships the man. He is the only other man he has said "I love you" to (and meant it) and once referred to him in a mealtime prayer as a ''SERVANT OF THE LORD''. |
| 136 | ** Hank explicitly has Daddy Issues. In Hank's mind, ''EVERYTHING'' Buck does is at worst a minor inconvenience, including/especially framing him for murder, as Buck at his worst is still EXPONENTIALLY better than having Cotton as a father. This also explains why Hank said "I love you" over getting a promotion and Cotton's reaction confirms this. |
| 137 | *** And as bad as Buck is, he has his moments where he recognizes how valuable Hank is. He chooses him over Kahn referring to Hank as his "Golden Goose" and in a rare moment of understanding how much Hank does for him, he blackmails an entire committee to get Hank out of a jam he caused and get him honored instead. |
| 138 | *** Hank won't even tape a football game on TV without the express written consent on the NFL and the network. Yet he has no qualms of regularly breaking Federal Laws to cover for Buck. |
| 139 | *** In Hank's eyes, Buck gave him his life and livelihood. Buck probably doesn't realize it, but Hank is probably trying to repay a debt that was never there. However he will let Buck take a beating when he knows the latter deserves it, like when Buck took Bobby to a Gambling house and angered a bunch of thugs. Hank intentionally stopped his truck so that Buck (who was in the back) would get a beating before finally taking off. |
| 140 | ** As the series progressed at least, Hank did finally start to get sick of Buck's crap. In the episode with the carbon coupons and going green, Hank seemed fully aware Buck was somehow going to ruin his own campaign and weary about his inevitably being forced to fix it. In the final episode featuring Buck, after Buck and his bastard son combined to become even bigger assholes than they could've been separately, Hank finally got fed-up with trying to save Buck from himself. |
| 141 | ** Buck *was* a businessman worth looking up to when Hank first went to work for him. He taught Hank everything he knows about the propane business. Then over the years Hank became such a good employee and eventually assistant manager that Buck hardly had to do anything anymore. Since Buck was more than comfortable with this arrangement, he is free to rake in all the money from the business and indulge in his vices. Gradually he became the sleazy dirtbag he was in present day. Hank never forgot what Buck used to be, and out of gratefulness for leading him to his calling in life feels like he owes Buck a debt of gratitude. |
| 142 | ** To Hank, propane is practically a religion. To him, Buck Strickland is a pastor if that religion, being the one who introduced him to it... and like many churchgoers, Hank sees an obviously flawed and corrupt man as "only human," and is willing to forgive his MANY trespasses. |
| 143 | ** Hank knows full well what an underhanded scumbag Buck is, but represses his full acknowledgement of it to not only keep a job he dearly loves, but also to project the integrity of Strickland Propane. It's more of a "respect the office, if not the man" sort of thing. If Hank quit Strickland, the business would go under in a week, and Hank couldn't do that to "Sweet Lady Propane". But notice that when he gets drunk off his ass on Long Island Ice Teas in "What Happens at the National Propane Convention in Memphis..." (miffed at Buck blowing him off to go wilding out with his bastard son "Ray Roy"), he delivers an '''EPIC''' TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, deriding Buck Strickland as a "drunk monster" and a "lecherous, disgusting, bastard-making bastard". It's only when Hank gets seriously shitfaced that he can finally admit and express the real truth about the man he admired. |
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| 145 | [[WMG:How realistically easy it is to convince others to support a project/activity after their initial rejection.]] |
| 146 | * This one's a little esoteric, but bear with me. On several episodes, including the one where Peggy gets the Bystander to send the family to Japan, and the one where they convince the principal to let them have an organic garden, someone (usually Peggy) appeals to an authority figure for something they clearly only want for a selfish reason, then they get shot down.. so, ''without leaving'', they improvise another reason for doing that same thing, which the authority figure likes better, and gives them a shot. Has this ''ever'' happened to ''anyone'' in history? GoldfishMemory much? It's the same suggestion you just turned down, but now that they gave you some bullshit ''you know they just made up'' to sweeten it, you change your mind? |
| 147 | ** A lot of life is persuasion, and a lot of persuasion is finding the right message. In the Japan episode, Peggy didn't propose the same thing. She initially proposed a transparently selfish story idea that had no appeal to anyone not named "Hill." When shot down, she countered with a legitimately interesting story idea, the kind of heartbreaking feature story editors love. Her editor changed her mind because Peggy offered her something of value (a good story), where before Peggy wasn't offering anything. With the organic garden, Principal Carl rejected it at first because it cost money and offered no benefit to him or the school. He acceded when Hank offered a concrete advantage. It's been well-established that the middle school is obsessed with football, and the team and its coach legitimately appreciated the organic veggies, at least at first. |
| 148 | *** In fact this is taught as part of any business course, and is mentioned in nearly every single self-advancement manual out there because it works. The reason it works is because people don't like saying no to people who are pleasant, but often have to say no a lot as part of their jobs. So if you want something that is a bit of a reach, out of the ordinary, and have reason to suspect that it might be refused, then offer something completely unacceptable that you have no real investment in first. When that gets shot down, offer what you really want, which now looks completely reasonable by comparison, and the other person - having done the nasty part of their duty in saying no - will probably say yes to it. It's why in any negotiation the first set of demands made by any party seem so ludicrous, because they expect them to be shot down and their real goals are far more reasonable. |
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| 150 | [[WMG:In the episode "Meet the Manger Babies", why in the hell would the manager (or programming director, or whoever) of Channel 84 put Luanne's show on ''during'' the Super Bowl?]] |
| 151 | * Was it out of ignorance? Did he/she do it just to try to teach Hank a lesson? Or was it just to be a dick? That just seems stupid to put it up against the Super Bowl. |
| 152 | ** Maybe Channel 84 can't afford the fee to show the Super Bowl, and figuring that there's bound to be kids who don't ''want'' to watch it either, decided to show the Manger Babies. He or she might not have considered her show to be that valuable either, and decided it would make a cheap "filler". |
| 153 | ** It's Texas. Football is their state religion. That particular time slot is doomed for any local network, so they probably wanted to air the cheapest crap they could fill the hole with. They also had a 20-year-old girl with a box of puppets who wanted airtime. So logically, they gave her part of the time slot to fill it while also humoring her to make her happy. Worst-case-scenario: Nobody watches it, which they were already prepared for anyway. Best-case-scenario: Small children had something wholesome and inoffensive to hold their attention while their parents watched the big game in the other room. |
| 154 | *** There's a trope for that: NoHoperRepeat |
| 155 | |
| 156 | [[WMG:"To Sirloin With Love"]] |
| 157 | * There are a few things that bugged the hell out of me: |
| 158 | ## In the first competition, Bobby misses the final question and his teammates instantly think he is a total failure for the rest of the episode. This makes NO sense, seeing as how they still made it to state, something they've never done before, because of Bobby's help on the team. They continue to chastise him even at the end of the episode, after he SINGLE-HANDEDLY takes the team to the finals of the state competition! |
| 159 | ## Missing this ONE question somehow moves their team from the second place spot to fourth place. What? |
| 160 | ## When Bobby sees his team actively try to sabotage another team at a restaurant by throwing red pepper powder in their eyes, he tells Hank that he wants to quit the team. The problem with this is that not once does Bobby ever tell his dad WHY he wants to quit, even though Hank is a good sportsman and would have surely agreed with his son’s choice to quit. The only reason Bobby wouldn’t tell his father why he quit is because the plot wouldn’t work if he did. |
| 161 | ## The other members of the team later say that they only care about winning and one even says that he’s a vegetarian. Why would a vegetarian be on a team who spends all of their time discussing and testing the quality of meat for EATING?! |
| 162 | ** The first point is one I made on the NoSympathy page. It makes no sense. As for number two, yes, that's logical. I don't know how their scoring works, but there's nothing ridiculous about the four teams being that closely bunched. As to number four, the vegetarian's a hypocrite who just wants to win something. Hardly the first such character on KOTH. |
| 163 | *** Actually, the vegetarian might not object to the consumption of meat - and even if he is, what better way to ensure that the live animals are being treated in a humane manner than by working in the factory as an inspector? |
| 164 | ** The thing that bugs me about this episode is that none of it makes any sense. Bobby gets on a college team, but he isn't enrolled in the college and isn't even college-aged. The other teams are so determined to win that they kidnap the bus with the team on it, including Hank. |
| 165 | ** College students can be notoriously competitive. This troper recently got into Sheridan College's Animation program, which required a Portfolio assessment. The level of competition that happened with the various applicants was so furious that most people would take the slightest bit of criticism as a declaration of war on their pride. As for the Vegetarian, it was probably to emphasize the whole "College kids are crazy" theme. And Bobby, in his mind, did tell Hank what had happened, but Hank took it in a completely different way. |
| 166 | ** I was more bugged by the sudden revelation that Boomhauer is supposed to be a Texas Ranger when he's routinely shown engaging in borderline criminal acts, if not actual ones, and like in the episode where the Pro Football player is terrorizing the area, he's just standing around doing nothing, including not criticizing the local police for letting the guy off the hook because he's a pro athlete and grilling Hank and his friends instead. It's a reveal that's not only unsupported, but completely contradicted by pretty much the entire rest of the show. |
| 167 | *** He becomes a Texas Ranger after that episode. Before that, he was a yogurt salesman. |
| 168 | *** And before that (or possibly during), he was an out of work electrician. |
| 169 | *** Becoming a Texas Ranger requires 36 hours of college or 3 years of military service, plus 8 years in law enforcement (service as an MP does not count), and finally, a job at Texas Department of Public Safety with a rank of at least Trooper II. So Boomhauer would've had to have been a Ranger from the start. But it does seem like a last minute added detail, so any puzzling behavior is likely due to inconsistent writing. |
| 170 | *** It's also likely that he's the kind of person who doesn't give a shit when he's not in uniform or on the clock. |
| 171 | |
| 172 | [[WMG:How did Peggy land on her back when her parachute failed? (She never turned or flipped in the air and it was clear to the viewers that she fell straight down face first.) Also I doubt she turned over with almost all her bones broken.]] |
| 173 | * Probably a last second reflex after the camera zoomed out. |
| 174 | ** Couldn't be. If you really look at her before she lands, she's still falling face down. It could be the writers figured they couldn't come up with a reasonable explanation for how she survived (she'd have been killed if her back bended backwards like that). So the next episode they showed her lying in the hole face up, hoping nobody would notice she never once turned in the air. |
| 175 | ** If my memory is correct, she landed in an area with trees, so it's possible, she hit trees on the way down |
| 176 | *** Your memory is very incorrect. She landed in the middle of a very muddy field. As for landing on her back, we don't see the impact. The angle |
| 177 | |
| 178 | [[WMG:How the hell did Peggy ever get chosen as substitute teacher of the year three years in a row? And why would a school even have such an award?]] |
| 179 | * Peggy's math is so bad, she needs to use the answers in the back of the book, and her Spanish is so bad, there's no way anyone's ability to speak Spanish improved if Peggy was teaching. |
| 180 | ** If I recall correctly, there are no other main substitute teachers at Tom Landry Middle School to compete with her. Which also nicely explains why she keeps the job. |
| 181 | ** IIRC, the "Substitute Teacher of the Year" award was ''her own'' idea. |
| 182 | ** Plus it helps that the voting was done by students, and a lot of the general student populace seemed to like Peggy. Students are more likely to like a teacher they can get along with, regardless if they're doing a good job of teaching. |
| 183 | ** She also had a meltdown when her husband was a substitute teacher in one episode because he was in his element and had the kids backing him and picked him over her. If I remember correctly, she still tried to claim the award for herself after Hank was screwed over by Insane Rules Lawyering of the school because several of his kids were doing repairs around the school and, because the tools were *gasp* potentially usable as weapons, he inadvertently violated the no weapons policy and was fired. Yes, he was a teacher the kids loved and had them actually doing positive things for the school, and so they fired him for it. |
| 184 | ** Peggy had two of these awards already when the show first started, I think the creators originally intended her to be a smart and competent educator but character development and {{Flanderization}} made her into the Peggy we know today. |
| 185 | |
| 186 | [[WMG:Is it ever explained just why Hank loves Propane so much? Is that just a quirk?]] |
| 187 | * It's so mind boggling random. |
| 188 | ** Some people really like cars. Some people dedicate their whole lives to a love of painting. Hank's passion is selling propane. It's just something he truly loves. |
| 189 | ** It may just be the writers playing off of the odd quirks/hobbies of the deep South, like mower racing and meat inspection. |
| 190 | ** The episode where Hank dreams of grilling in the nude sort of implies that propane is some kind of fetish for him. |
| 191 | *** Same reason as his loyalty to Buck, I figured. Propane provides his livelihood. |
| 192 | *** I always felt that it was Hank simply doing his job. He has a great sense of duty as seen in his previous job as a pants salesman. Whatever the situation, he's committed all the way. |
| 193 | * This one's a bit out there, but propane possibly symbolizes what Hank is, or what he wants to be. It is a volatile compound, which is contained under pressure and rendered safe and useful, much like Hank does with his emotions. It's chemically simple, but valuable to humans, much like simple GoodOlBoy Hank is valuable to his family and neighbors. It's also rather boring (who, except Hank ever gets excited about propane?), but a reliable and efficient source of energy, again, much like Hank. Furthermore, while oil and coal might be the fuels of choice of big industry, propane is the fuel of choice of small business and households, which goes well with the show's habit of mocking Mega-Lo-Mart and other big businesses. |
| 194 | * There's two reasons for this. First off, he's a meat fanatic. To him, propane grilling is the purest method of cooking meat, since it's safer than butane, stronger than electric, and doesn't dick with the meat's flavor like charcoal does. That's even his company's slogan, "Taste the meat, not the heat". The fact that propane has a wide variety of other household uses, including central power and heating, is just icing on the cake, since it plays into his love of being a handyman. Secondly, that's just part of Hank's character in general. He's the type who becomes obsessively dedicated to anything he develops even a passing interest in. Propane, meat, church, football, trucks, his family and friends, etc... If Hank likes it enough, he swan-dives into it and goes all-out into making it the most important aspect of his life. This does work to his detriment on occasion, like that time he became a videogame addict. |
| 195 | |
| 196 | [[WMG:Does anybody else find it weird that everybody always calls John Redcorn by his full name?]] |
| 197 | * [[DontExplainTheJoke That is the joke.]] |
| 198 | * Also there are people who are really referred to this way, almost exclusively and by a lot of people. I knew two such people in the same school. Chris Moses and John Moore were always Chris Moses and John Moore, despite no other Chrises or Johns being called by their full names all the time (in other words, it's not just because they had common first names). |
| 199 | * People tend to do that when they hear a name that's unusual, it's fun to say. Me was the only Cambodian at her school and had a very unique first and last name, yet was always called by the whole name for the novelty I suppose. Plus, the Hills strike me as knowing a lot of guys named John. |
| 200 | |
| 201 | [[WMG:Why does Peggy fall for so many scams, even the same scam more than once?]] |
| 202 | * In one episode, Peggy sells those power bars and she does it all because she wants to be in management. |
| 203 | * Peggy learns nothing from that scam and later is convinced to sell kitchenware. In this episode, she gives away her sales kit thinking they're samples, even though she had the same problem with Luanne in the episode about the power bars. |
| 204 | * Peggy is also convinced that she's a genius and falls for a series of scams, including getting her doctorate online. She completes all the coursework in one evening and prints her own degree. |
| 205 | ** Um, maybe because she is an ''idiot'', which is kind of her defining character trait? That's sort of like asking why Hank likes propane so muc- oh wait, someone asked about that here too. |
| 206 | * Peggy, as discussed earlier, is narcissistic enough to believe she can do no wrong, and thus, thinks she cannot be tricked. |
| 207 | * This is actually very TruthInTelevision as [=MLMs=], fake diplomas for sale and other such scams specifically target people like Peggy, i.e. people who have a vastly inflated ego and are extremely susceptible to suggestion whenever anybody feeds said ego. |
| 208 | |
| 209 | [[WMG:So, why ''did'' Cotton like Bobby so much?]] |
| 210 | * Despite Bobby's flaws, he has skills Cotton values. He's social, has a way with the ladies at times, can dance, and is a crack-shot marksmen. |
| 211 | * Last I checked, Cotton constantly berated Hank for acting feminine, even when he wasn't. The point of many episodes is that Bobby worries Hank by doing something that is usually for girls, so it would make sense for Cotton to think of him as even worse. |
| 212 | ** It was out of spite towards Hank, like how divorced parents will try to one-up each other in showering affection on the kids, not because they love the children more, but to stick in their ex-spouse's craw. |
| 213 | ** No, Cotton generally loves Bobby. He treats him nice even when Hank's not around. Maybe some tiny part of him wants to make up for being a Jerkass to Hank but the rest of him can't admit it, so he makes do by showering Bobby with affection. Although even ''that'' sounds way too sentimental for Cotton, so maybe not. |
| 214 | ** My theory is two fold - Cotton was likely still more than a little bitter about losing his shins, in an unhappy marriage, and had recently had to leave behind the Japanese nurse he loved. This leads to Hank trying to live a certain way or hold up a certain standard in the hopes of winning Cotton's approval. Bobby was born when Cotton was an old man who had grown more or less accepting of his life, is his only grandson, and never tries to be anything but himself. |
| 215 | *** Confidence is probably key, here; Cotton is a womanizing, emotional hooligan. The opposite of what we'd consider a "stick in the mud". Hank, however, ''is'' a stick in the mud, having a modest and traditional behavior that seems to follow the law and personal rules and restrictions to a "T"; but despite this, Bobby is outgoing and (fairly) confident, which, at times, involves him ''not'' being a "stick in the mud", something that Cotton would heavily appreciate. This makes Cotton's raising of Hank callous, though, given that his parenting was what ''caused'' Hank to become, well, somewhat of a bore. But the thing is, ''Cotton himself admits this''; in the episode "[[Recap/KingOfTheHillS3E5NextOfShin Next of Shin]]", he gives Hank the backhanded (and amusing) compliment of "Heck, you made ''Bobby''; all I made was ''you''!". Meaning, he thinks of Hank as a failure (except in raising Bobby, who being outgoing, like Cotton, does not seem to him as a failure), but he knows that he's only a "failure" because ''he'' was a failure in raising him. |
| 216 | ** It's probably the military school episode. Cotton threw everything he had at Bobby and it failed to break the boy. Since then, Cotton's been forced to respect him. |
| 217 | *** No, he's shown to love Bobby before then, and even tells Bobby he wasn't going to be his grandpa during his stay there, and would be the sadistic commandant of his youth. He ''respects'' Bobby afterwards, but he's always loved him unconditionally. |
| 218 | * It's a grandparent thing. Plenty of abusive parents become doting grandparents without ever realizing the contradiction. |
| 219 | * I personally think a majority of it could be something as simple as the fact that Cotton and G.H. were born in Texas while Hank was born in New York. It's unbelievably insane, but watch the episode and you'll think "oh my God, that probably IS why." Of course, it does help that directly raising Bobby is Hank's job, not Cotton's job, so the dynamic there would naturally be different. |
| 220 | * A possible explanation, but trying not to excuse Cotton's generally abusive nature: Cotton begrudgingly respects people who stand up to him, moreso than blind loyalty. Cotton was awful to Hank as a child, but Hank, as far as we could see, was still obedient and respected his father (mainly out of fear). The same goes for Didi — she was subservient and softspoken (most of the time), and it's not like Cotton ever had anything nice to say to her. But Peggy and Bobby were different (although they had different approaches). Peggy brushed Cotton off most of the time, stood up to him and called him out. His respect for Peggy was made most obvious in the episode where he's helping her learn to walk again. Bobby has always been kind to Cotton, so their relationship wasn't as antagonistic, but unlike young Hank, Bobby didn't simply say "yes sir" to everything Cotton said. Bobby was still himself, and didn't let Cotton's ways intimidate him. |
| 221 | |
| 222 | [[WMG: In the episode where they were building houses for charity, when Cotton disarmed Jimmy Carter, shouldn't he have checked if there was a round in the chamber after he removed the magazine?]] |
| 223 | Yes. |
| 224 | ** Yes, but a lot of people don't actually know to do that. |
| 225 | *** As an Army vet and prolific shooter, it really should be second nature to him. |
| 226 | |
| 227 | [[WMG:In an early episode where Hank coaches Bobby's football team, he takes the team to spray paint "Cougar Rule" on a bridge. Yet in a later episode, he is angered at a lot of graffiti on a local rock formation, even stating something along the lines of "If the class of '06 really ruled, they wouldn't need to paint it on a rock".]] |
| 228 | * Well, the graffiti in the later episode was covering a local monument that Hank used to visit as a kid, not just a bridge. But the encouraging of spray-painting still seems wildly out of character for Hank (one episode had Bobby saying that he didn't even approve of bumper stickers). I'm guessing it was just because it was an early episode and they hadn't worked out what a tightass he was yet. |
| 229 | ** Tying into that, there's something of an unspoken rule that you don't vandalize monuments/landmarks. However, the "Cougars Rule" thing might be an instance when they had permission to graffiti or it was treated as some long standing tradition where they'll put up with the graffiti. |
| 230 | |
| 231 | [[WMG:What happened to Kahn's mother?]] |
| 232 | * Now I know ''why'' she was PutOnABus, but they never gave a good ''how''. I mean a simple mention of a funeral or something like that would've have done the job. |
| 233 | ** She moved back home, I assume. |
| 234 | ** In the episode, as she's leaving, she mentions that she's going off to a retirement community. |
| 235 | ** In the very next episode Bobby had acquired Tarot cards and Bill had asked him to do a reading of his future with Kahn's mother. Bobby's reading of Bill's relationship says something along the lines of "dark days are ahead". The most probably outcome is that they later broke up. |
| 236 | |
| 237 | [[WMG:How do Hank and his friends get mistaken for Spanish-speaking day laborers in the [=McMansion=] episode?]] |
| 238 | * RuleOfFunny |
| 239 | |
| 240 | [[WMG:What happened to Caroline?]] |
| 241 | * I really enjoy ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'', but one thing that bothers me was the episode where Peggy unknowingly makes friends with a fashionable cross-dresser who goes by the name Caroline. It wasn't the episode itself that bugged me, but rather, the fact that we never see Caroline in later episodes. I thought "Caroline" was kind of a fun character, I would've liked to see more of her. (him?) |
| 242 | ** I'm sure she's just hanging out with Kahn's mom and the prostitute Peggy tutored in a wacky [[Series/TheGoldenGirls Golden Girls]] style apartment. |
| 243 | *** And they're all taking care of Bobby's girlfriend who he was still with at the end of Get Your Freak Off. |
| 244 | *** Or Bobby's girlfriend hooked up with the fourth kid from the first Straight Arrow episode. |
| 245 | ** He's probably still around somewhere hanging out with Peggy from time to time. Just not within the audience's view. |
| 246 | * Speaking of which, was Caroline meant to be a transsexual or just a cross-dresser? He calls himself a drag queen, but do most drag queens go by female names when they're off the clock? |
| 247 | ** It really depends on the person, but for the most part there's three camps. The first consider themselves to completely be their chosen gender, and stay that way 100% of the time. The second see themselves as two sides of the same coin, and will flip between the two. The third believe themselves to essentially be actors: one gender is simply a role they play. Caroline was in the second group, and seems annoyed that his/her overly-supportive mother refuses to accept (s)he doesn't want to be a woman all the time. |
| 248 | |
| 249 | [[WMG:In "Square Peg", Bobby is shown hitting a baseball pretty far. But later episodes, particularly "Bad News Bill", show him not only as a terrible player, but portray him as always being terrible at baseball. [[FlatWhat What.]]]] |
| 250 | * He was portrayed as being pretty bad at baseball in the pilot episode as well. The scene in "Square Peg" was likely done just to set up Peggy's "Go all the way!" line, so chalk it up to RuleOfFunny. |
| 251 | * He lucked out. |
| 252 | * Speaking from experience here: I was a terrible baseball player when I was a kid, but sometimes even I would get everything to fall into place: The right pitch and a lucky swing and next thing I know, I've got a base hit. |
| 253 | |
| 254 | [[WMG: "Tankin It To The Streets"]] |
| 255 | * How does a placebo work if Bill didn't know he was taking it? |
| 256 | ** You dare doubt the power of the Placebo?! |
| 257 | * That's just it. It ''didn't'' work. Bill's being fat, having a hairy body, bald head, and bad breath were all characteristics of his own, not the effects of a pill or placebo. At first, Bill is happy to learn that he was part of the experiment, which (he thought) led to all these characteristics. Then, he finds out he was given a placebo, which means it had no effect on him at all. The placebo was administered by the doctors doing the testing so they wouldn't know which person actually took the drug and which ones were given a placebo. |
| 258 | ** But why would anyone do that? The entire point of a placebo is that the person taking it THINKS it's having an effect. If they don't know, why give it to him? Was there even a real drug? |
| 259 | *** See also: double-blind study. FOR SCIENCE! |
| 260 | ** You would have the doctor give someone a placebo so the doctor himself doesn't know who took the actual drug and who took the placebo. This way, the doctor's reported results aren't affected by knowing who is actually taking the right pills. All the doctor knows is that he's given the pills to the subject and he reports what he's asked to report. This is especially helpful if you have two (or more) subjects in the same group where half the group gets a placebo and the other half gets the drug. If you don't know which took the placebo, you can only report what you really saw and not what you wanted to see. |
| 261 | *** Ah, thanks for explaining. |
| 262 | * I have to throw in my own headscratcher for this, since you kindly made a subheading for this episode: going back to the old "It Just Bugs Me" name, Dale cannot pronounce "Pfizer" correctly, defaulting to the phonetic pronunciation of the name, but doesn't read "placebo" on sight as "place-bo". He clearly doesn't know what either thing is yet he pronounces placebo correctly. I personally find this inconsistent. *Snort and adjust thick-rimmed glasses.* |
| 263 | |
| 264 | [[WMG: The tainted beer switcheroo in "Beer and Loathing"]] |
| 265 | How did Peggy land a job with the Spanish speaking division in the first place? She isn't even on a first year level. |
| 266 | * In this episode, Peggy works where the beer is made, however the beer is being diverted to Mexico (that alone is another thing That Bugs Me because any company willingly putting tainted product on the shelves would be shut down/fined fast) due to some soap getting into the machines. Anyways, when the CEO ignores Hank's requests for answers and lies to him, Peggy replaces all the beer that would be at the meeting with tainted Mexican beer. She uses her employee ID to get into the boardroom. Why would a customer service rep's ID card have access to a boardroom to begin with? ID cards usually are encoded so you can only get in some areas. |
| 267 | ** Seeing how cheap and underhanded they already are, they most likely didn't even bother to make more than one set of cards. They are the [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Umbrella Corporation]] of beer, basically. |
| 268 | ** Also, for a company to be fined, they would have to be caught first. |
| 269 | ** The beer getting to Mexico is mentioned as being a batch they were marketing in Mexico, and since they were trying to make the cleanest beer Mexicans could get, it was discovered the batch was tainted, and they were trying to keep the whole thing under wraps to avoid having to make a public recall and public apology, and stopped supplying stateside stores until they were sure they had an untainted batch. Peggy convinces the CEO that the beer they shipped through the US was tainted (it wasn't really), forcing him to make an (unnecessary) US recall and public apology, by slipping tainted beer into his meeting. They didn't deliberately ship out tainted beer, they only discovered it was tainted after it was shipped and decided not to recall it. Underhanded, sure, but hardly malicious. |
| 270 | ** I think the original poster was asking how Peggy managed to get a job as a Spanish-speaking support caller when her Spanish is so God-awful. |
| 271 | *** Probably the same way she got the job for substitute Spanish: a mix of too few other applicants so they have to take anyone willing, and nobody bothering to check out if she actually can do what she claims. |
| 272 | *** It's possible that the writers of this episode decided to go with "could actually pass as a Spanish teacher" Peggy and not "Lupe's Revenge" Peggy. There were points earlier in the series when Peggy didn't completely butcher the Spanish language every time she opened her mouth; she wasn't ''amazing'', but she was at least competent enough that she could probably handle taking Spanish customer service calls. |
| 273 | |
| 274 | [[WMG: Another thing from Cotton's death episode]] |
| 275 | * Why does he still have a grudge against Japan when he made peace with the Emperor in a previous episode? |
| 276 | ** He was a bitter, racist, sexist old man who spent his entire life hating Japan and boasting about how many men he killed there. One trip back to Japan wouldn't realistically cure his prejudice so easily. |
| 277 | ** He didn't actually seem genuine about making peace with the Emperor. He was, after all, just about to spit in the Emperor's face, and only chose to make peace when his illegitimate son accepted Cotton as his father. |
| 278 | *** Problem with that reasoning is that Cotton only wanted to spit on the Emperor after his half-Japanese son rejected him. After all, he "declared war" right in the middle of dinner. |
| 279 | ** It probably isn't helped by an earlier episode "Shins of the Father" implying that Cotton might have suffered some form of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. This is revisited in the episode, judging by his reaction to the Benihana-esque chef (complete with audio of warfare noises and his attempt at trying to defend himself against the "Tojo whomping sticks"-really pepper mills). |
| 280 | ** Cotton definitely suffers from PTSD, on top of being a hotheaded jerk anyway. And many WWII veterans and others who lived through that era aren't very accepting of people from the countries they fought against in the war. Cotton exaggerates many of the things that he did during the war, but it is made clear that he really did see heavy action in the Pacific. Being shot at by a lot of Japanese guys would probably make anybody none too fond of Japanese people. |
| 281 | *** Other than compartmentalization (he's very fond of Michiko and Junichiro) and PTSD, Cotton seems to have his grudge against the Japanese army at the time, as opposed to Japan as a whole. On top of this, Cotton doesn't sound like a person to get therapy for any of his issues. |
| 282 | |
| 283 | [[WMG: Why does Hank stay friends with Bill?]] |
| 284 | * Every single time Bill stops being pathetic, he turns into a jackass. When he works at the Baseball field, he goes crazy with power. When he is thrust in charge of the shelter, guess what? He goes crazy with power! Even when he's a broken down slob, he still stalks Peggy and acts like a jerk. Yes, he was Hank's friend, but Christ. He treats Bill better then he does Bobby. |
| 285 | ** It's repeatedly shown that Hank (and Dale and Boomhauer) don't really like Bill very much at all...in the present. Flashbacks to their High School days have shown that when he was younger, Bill was athletic, handsome, confident, loyal, and generally around a million times more awesome than he is now. They're only really still friends with him out of respect for the person he used to be (I'm pretty sure that's literally stated by Hank in one episode as to why they should keep helping him out), and from a large dose of pity. Nobody expects Bill to be a good friend, neighbor, etc., they just sort of support him out of duty. |
| 286 | *** Bill also does have moments where he is competent. It is also shown that the universe hates Bill and wants to make him miserable. A large part of his failings were horrible luck. The cast is also not above using him for his odd talents (Peggy abused his salesman skills freely). And even in the present Bill managed to save the entire Hill family, which they pretty much dismiss. |
| 287 | *** Also, it seems pretty obvious if they stopped being friends with Bill he'd kill himself. That doesn't exactly make it as easy as simply not hanging out with him. |
| 288 | ** I believe there was an episode that revealed that Bill did a lot for his friends, such as stopping a fight with drunks. It was the reason why Hank has a tattoo that says "Bill" on the back of his head and Boomhauer was the only one who remembers this. |
| 289 | ** To explain Bill's behavior mentioned in the question: Bill is emotionally damaged as a result of his divorce and it has made him desperately needy. But because "being dumped on is all Bill knows" as Hank once put it, whenever Bill receives recognition of any kind, he reacts to it in the wrong way: When a single mother started to show affection for him during his Santa stint, he kept it up well after Christmas and scared her away as a result. When Peggy showered him with praise for being a good salesman he reacted adversely to it and shunned her. When a female jogger gave him a slight nod of acknowledgement, he figured he had "met a woman" and tried to get with her by digging potholes that would injure her so he could come to her rescue (a plan that backfired spectacularly as Boomhauer was the one that came to her rescue and subsequently hooked up with her). And as noted in the question, whenever Bill is given power, he tends to go mad with it. Hank knows how emotionally damaged and fragile Bill is and a large part of why he remains friends with Bill is because the friendship keeps Bill at least somewhat functional. |
| 290 | * Bill dragged Hank, Peggy and Bobby (with Ladybird's help) out of their gas infested house in "Racist Dawg", giving them mouth to mouth as they were unconscious on the lawn. He also nursed the whole family back to health when the Hills were down with the flu in "Bill's House". And don't forget "Tankin' It to the Streets", where Bill damn near pulls a HeroicSacrifice to save Hank, Dale and Boomhauer from an active (and potentially lethal)war games killing field. Bill Dauterive is by no estimation a perfect man, but when the chips are down, he will bust his fat ass to help and/ or save people who care about him. Perhaps we should be asking why '''Bill''' is friends with '''Hank'''.... |
| 291 | ** To sum it up in three reasons: |
| 292 | ##Hank, Dale, Boomhauer, and Bill have known each other for a long time, since their high school days |
| 293 | ##We've seen how Dale, Boomhauer, and Bill act without Hank there and, if ya'll remember, they could have been pancaked by a truck (it was that ep where Dale had that boneheaded-ass idea to build a tunnel to their neighboring houses). Hank is kind of their TeamDad |
| 294 | ##Tying into the second point, the four together balance each other out. It's kind of like why Hank and Peggy are married, even though, you'd think they'd get divorced with the way their antics work. |
| 295 | |
| 296 | [[WMG:Why does Hank stay friends with Dale?]] |
| 297 | * Any time Hank has a secret, Dale's the one who blabs it to the neighborhood. Dale's self-indulgent paranoia causes Hank serious problems, like getting him on the Homeland Security watch list. Dale's stupid schemes do major damage to Hank's house. If Hank dares make the tiniest criticism of Dale's behavior, Dale [[LawOfDisproportionateResponse goes berserk]] and destroys Hank's property out of spite, even though Dale insults everybody at all times for no reason. Especially Peggy. To Hank's face. In fact, why does anybody stay friends with Dale? Dale's a comprehensive asshole. |
| 298 | ** For similar reasons with Bill. They are friends with him because they knew each other since childhood, and it is sort of out of obligation. Plus it has been repeatedly shown that without Hank, Dale would collapse in on himself like a dying star. |
| 299 | ** And Dale and Bill have both had a few LetsGetDangerous moments here and there. It's possible they have enough smaller moments like that off-screen, of coming through here and there when it really counts, to justify Hank counting them as friends. Plus, as we've seen in a few other episodes, Hank likes being useful and really does enjoy helping them out and saving the day. Whenever they don't need his help, or he's dealing with someone competent, Hank doesn't know what to do with himself. |
| 300 | ** Hank has one hell of a tolerance. Think about your group of friends. There's probably one that does incredibly stupid things (let's exclude felonies for now) and yet you wonder why you're friends with them at all (personal experience here). |
| 301 | ** Watch the fire ant episode and the way Dale takes the bullet for Bobby. "If it weren't for Dale's paranoid and hate-filled nature, I never would've learned the kind of beating a true friendship can take." |
| 302 | * Dale, in a SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome, helps Hank rectify his driver's ID issue by verbally curbstomping the ObstructiveBureaucrat impeding the process ("Dale to the Chief"). And when Dale is hired to deal with an infestation problem in "Megalo-Dale", he does his damndest to do a good job, mainly because Hank put his reputation on the line by recommending him. Bottom line- Dale greatly admires Hank, and when the chips are down, he will do all he can for Hank, and Hank for his part, is always there to help and support Dale. |
| 303 | |
| 304 | [[WMG: Why does Boomhauer stay friends with Hank?]] |
| 305 | * Hank repeatedly teases him and yells at him (Especially in the firefighting episode), at one point he even exiled Boomhauer from the group because Luanne was living with him and.... okay, this is just RuleOfThree. |
| 306 | ** VitriolicBestBuds? It's kind of like Quagmire from ''Family Guy'', where, despite the things he's done (and vice versa), the other three do hang with him, provided, Quagmire isn't as upstanding as Boomhauer. |
| 307 | * Hank actually holds Boomhauer in very high regard, definitely in comparison to Dale and Bill. Boomhauer knows this, and definitely appreciates this from someone like Hank. At the end of "It's Not Easy Being Green", Bobby reveals to Boomhauer that Hank quotes him quite often, which deeply touches Boomhauer, and compels him to seriously shorten the period he intended to be mad at Hank. And a couple of instances in the show have Hank doing something morally dodgy or at least jerkish, then looking towards Boomhauer who has a disapproving comment or facial expression, and this makes Hank relent, or at least regret his actions. |
| 308 | |
| 309 | [[WMG: Nine Pretty Darn Angry Men]] |
| 310 | * Hank says the seat warmer will warm your beer can. But it has a cup holder! |
| 311 | ** He tells this to Boomhauer, who likes to place his beer can between his legs while riding the mower. |
| 312 | *** But it still has a cup holder. |
| 313 | *** That's irrelevant to Boomhauer. |
| 314 | * Why would a lawnmower even ''have'' a seat warmer? You don't mow your lawn in cold weather when all the grass is dead. |
| 315 | ** That was Hank's point. The mower was filled with meaningless luxury items that didn't contribute to the performance. |
| 316 | |
| 317 | [[WMG: Why doesn't anyone call Hank on his ignorance and constant judging?]] |
| 318 | * On more than one occasion, Hank has not been called out on his very, very big mistakes in judging his son, his wife and his friends wrongly and not even giving people a chance. He is unable to accept things attacking his very narrow worldview because his traditions no longer suit the world. He comes across as rather elitist and sexist because of those notions, and what happens? He is never called out on them. Either people think he's right because of some outside factor, or he outright threatens them! Just because he's the big man doesn't mean he's right. |
| 319 | ** People only judge Hank when they're dead wrong about him. |
| 320 | ** It's cultural. Maybe you have to have grown up down here to understand it, but the cast's views on things are very much the norm, albeit exaggerated for comedic effect. Hank is a pretty extreme wet blanket, but his values and acceptance are more or less in line with what it's like to live in that region (although people tend to be more tolerant). |
| 321 | ** Not every episode has Hank be in the right. Some have him be called out for his views and behavior, like when someone makes a play about the Alamo that presents everyone in an unflattering light and Hank is convinced not to smash up the set because censoring someone you disagree with is wrong. |
| 322 | |
| 323 | [[WMG:Since when does Joseph not want to have sex?]] |
| 324 | * Why did Joseph didn't want to go all the way (or even half way) with his girlfriend? I know [[AManIsAlwaysEager that not all guys can't wait]] and I would had believed if it was Bobby, but Joseph was a peeping Tom in the episode Bobby saw Luann naked, he's always talking about boobs, girls, etc. etc. etc. |
| 325 | ** Lack of confidence in himself, fear of being rejected, fear of taking such a big step that he can't take back, fear of taking the relationship further than he wants it to be, and just plain being embarrassed about it. There's a large gap between wanting to peep on a girl and really being ready for sex. For all his talk, Joseph hadn't crossed it. |
| 326 | *** Pretty much. You ever been around middle school guys? They'll talk about how awesome tits are and will brag about being with a bunch of girls, but how many do you think have REALLY had sex? |
| 327 | *** We have a trope for this. ParalyzingFearOfSexuality. |
| 328 | |
| 329 | [[WMG: How is Cotton able to walk without shins?]] |
| 330 | * It would be impossible for him to bend his legs without shins, so how is he still able to walk? How does he sit down? |
| 331 | ** It's a cartoon. That's how. The doctors told him he'd never be able to walk again, but by sheer impossibly strong determination he managed to get back on his feet and kick that doctor's ass. |
| 332 | *** Hank actually says Cotton punched that doctor in the kidneys. |
| 333 | ** He kind of does a waddling thing. His feet are sewn to his knees, so maybe he can still move his feet up and down, and then he walks normally but just has to move his feet more than someone normally would. |
| 334 | ** The doctors are also total Idiots. '''You'd expect''': They would fit him for prosthetics. '''Instead''': They ''sew his feet to his knees''. He somehow survives this grafting (in 1940s technology). |
| 335 | *** If it's stupid and it works, it's not stupid. |
| 336 | *** Maybe, but was the doctor who performed the operation still allowed to practice after that? "Foolish" may be a more appropriate term. Or, if not outright fired, maybe, after his ungrateful patient decked him one, he just quit medicine altogether. |
| 337 | *** Eh, grafting wasn't really that impossible in the 40s, considering the foundations for modern plastic surgery was founded in about the 1917-ish, so the idea of grafting his feet to his knees wouldn't be really farfetched. |
| 338 | ** It's all in the hips. Look carefully whenever you see him walk. Normally, he swings his legs around to move forward, but he'll also straight-up waddle whenever he needs to run. |
| 339 | |
| 340 | [[WMG: Why doesn't Bill get a dog?]] |
| 341 | * In two different episodes, he temporarily took care of a dog and it made him seem much better. When he had Ladybird for a while, he was very happy, and taking care of the dog seemed to give him something to do and give him more incentive to get off the couch. In another episode, he takes care of a soldier's dog for an army program, and not only did he get the same benefits from having Ladybird, he was able to pick up girls. So why didn't he ever get a GOOD dog to have permanently? (he got a bad dog in one episode... Kept attacking him) |
| 342 | ** I forgot what trope this is called, but once you try a plan and it fails for whatever reason, you can never try it ever again, even if you could fix it. |
| 343 | *** Not exactly so, but I think what you're looking for is ItOnlyWorksOnce. |
| 344 | ** The reason why Bill doesn't get a dog? The same reason why Kahn's mother didn't stay, as according to WordOfGod, it would've made Bill actually happy. [[SarcasmMode And we just can't have that, now can we?]] |
| 345 | ** Also, in a character commentary for "Westie Side Story", Dale actually asks the same question, and Bill responds, "I've gotten them before, and they just run away from me..." and in "Fun With Jane and Jane" and "Serpunt", Bill says, respectively, "Why does everything I love run away from me?!" and "Snakes make great pets. They don't have legs, so they can't run away from you..." so it always seemed to me like Bill is, like is shown with people in other episodes like "Twas The Nut Before Christmas", Bill is very good to start with, whether it be with taking care of people or animals, or a job, but after a little time he just...gets lazy again or goes overboard or screws it up some other way. With the dogs, I'd presume Bill starts to get [[AndCallHimGeorge overly affectionate]], and the dogs just ditch him when he leaves the door open while running after them for a hug. Bit of a head-canon there, but considering the response to Bill from Hank on the above "why do they run away from me" line is, "Because you have to ''pet'' everything like an idiot!" and Bill follows his line about snakes with, "no matter how hard you cuddle it, you can't break it!", it doesn't seem out of the question... |
| 346 | *** In the dog dancing ep, he almost got mauled and, in another ep, he had a pet in the temporary sense. Another reason is that Bill has issues with taking care of ''himself'' (to list, he's had difficulties managing his diabetes, he picks up women at the penitentiary, stands outside in heat waving at people, etc) much of the time and tends to jump into things with a lot of lack of self-awareness, so getting a pet (particularly long-term) wouldn't work out anyways. |
| 347 | |
| 348 | [[WMG: Scoutmaster Wesley]] |
| 349 | In the episode "Straight as an Arrow" he becomes a BitchInSheepsClothing in the latter half as he says Hank should know better than to have his ADHD and diabetic sons out in the woods. Then why the fuck did he have them in the fucking Straight Arrow troops in the first place!?!? Why the fuck did he make no mention of this before the end? That's irresponsible parenting! And no one called him out on this! |
| 350 | * Because as Scoutmaster, he can personally see to it that his children have fun as Scouts in a way that ''he'' deems safe and healthy. He trusted that Hank would hold the meeting the way that he always had, but was deeply upset to see him disrespect him when he didn't. |
| 351 | ** Yes, but those are serious health concerns that should never be ignored. |
| 352 | ** He probably should've told Hank anyway. Usually for organizations and clubs with a lot of child members, the adult heads of the group need to be informed of any health concerns the children have. |
| 353 | * For why he wanted them to join the Straight Arrows, he seemed to want his kids to have some sickeningly wholesome after-school activity, which is why he brought up the idea to Peggy in the first place. He probably just figured that as Scout-master, he could run it any way he wanted and wouldn't have to expose his kids to anything he disapproved of. |
| 354 | |
| 355 | [[WMG: Adding on to complaints about Scoutmaster Wesley...]] |
| 356 | Why did he criticize Hank for acting like he knew how to his kids best, when he was doing that with everyone else's kids in the first place? For god's sake, he tried to have Bobby kicked out of the Order for playing video games! Wesley insisted that the children stay inside and do arts and crafts, but when Hank tried to do something different he was trying impose his beliefs on the kids? |
| 357 | * He's a hypocrite. That was intentional to show just how annoying the character really was; publically shaming Hank's parenting skills while taking offense when Hank attempts to show any "improper" influence over his own kids. |
| 358 | |
| 359 | [[WMG: On the "Old as the Hills" parachuting accident...]] |
| 360 | Did Hank or Peggy sue the place for a faulty parachute? The guy leading the trip told Peggy to pull both tabs and then pulled his own and went away. I'm no expert in skydiving but aren't they supposed to hold on the person and then pull on their own cord? I guess they could HandWave it by saying they covered the hospital bills but this really confuses me. If they let my wife die I would want a huge payback for it. Also why would they put "Free Falling" as a song to play during the credits? That's like confirming that the rest of the show was a DyingDream. |
| 361 | * Most companies that provide risky activities like skydiving, whitewater rafting, etc. will have participants sign a liability waiver before engaging in said activities. That may be why the Hills couldn't sue. |
| 362 | ** Those waivers become worthless in the event the company was responsible for the injury. Waivers claiming otherwise tend to lie and hope customers are too stupid to look at the actual laws. |
| 363 | ** Generally, those waivers only explain the inherent risks of an activity and cover honest accidents like a skydiver landing in a forest or power lines. |
| 364 | * The skydiving company should be sued for allowing a complete novice to solo jump. Most companies require tandem jumping (you are attached to a professional skydiver who pulls the cord). You need alot of training to be able to solo jump. |
| 365 | * Not sure I blame the guy who pulled his his own cord as Peggy failed, at that point what was he supposed to do? Suffer a serious injury along with Peggy? |
| 366 | |
| 367 | [[WMG: Fun with Jane and Jane episode]] |
| 368 | Is it me or was the cult of Jane in the titular episode have the ability to brainwash people really easily? It just seems that the girls only needed three words of encouragement to willingly join their brainwashing cult. |
| 369 | * Peggy and Luanne are both very ''very'' stupid and gullible. It doesn't take much. |
| 370 | * In reality, cults seek out people who might be susceptible to brainwashing; typically those who are deeply depressed or going through an unstable or frightening period of their lives. When one of the Janes brings Luanne to join the cult, she introduces her as "That sad girl who drinks alone on campus." |
| 371 | * There's also the heavily restricted diet. The body (particularly the brain) needs a certain amount of calories per day to function, and when it's also being denied important elements like protein and sugar it'll start misfiring fairly quickly. Not quite as fast as the show displays, but it's only got a half hour. They can be forgiven for playing with the time frame. |
| 372 | ** Yes. |
| 373 | |
| 374 | [[WMG: Bill's somewhat ironic "wifebeater" shirt]] |
| 375 | On at least two occasions, It's referred to as a t-shirt. Do people in Arlen not know what the letter T looks like? Even weirder, Bill claims he got it from La Grunta in exchange for not suing them over getting dolphin-molested. La Grunta sells blank white wife-beaters? |
| 376 | * Bill probably only has the one shirt, so he's likely washed/bleached it to the point that it has lost whatever logo was once on it. |
| 377 | * As silly as it seems, sleeveless shirts like wife-beaters are still categorized as T-shirts. Most likely because they use the same design as T-shirts with sleeves, only they're sleeveless. |
| 378 | |
| 379 | [[WMG: Connie's behavior in "Glen Peggy Glen Ross"]] |
| 380 | Why was she so cold? She did get Peggy fired from the newspaper and from the realtor's place. Granted, Peggy went along with her, but Connie kinda started it. And no apologies from Connie, also. |
| 381 | * Peggy was the one who risked her career and made an ass out of herself just so a twelve-year-old would think she was cool. Connie never actually goaded Peggy on, Peggy just wanted to keep up appearances. |
| 382 | |
| 383 | [[WMG: What was with the mechanic that wouldn't fix Hank's truck?]] |
| 384 | He's turning away business because it would cost '''Hank''' more than the truck is worth, and does nothing more than tell Hank it's going to die. |
| 385 | |
| 386 | * Maybe he's just an honest mechanic? |
| 387 | * Being honest just means telling him the truck isn't worth the cost of fixing it, but still letting the customer decide. He's told Hank it would cost more than the truck is worth, so he's been honest. He's ''refusing'' to fix it '''because''' it will cost him more than it's worth, which is just poor business practice. |
| 388 | * It's possible that he believes he's doing Hank a favor by refusing to fix his truck, saving him from throwing good money after bad. Showing that kind of good faith instead of just gladly taking the customer's money is a good way of building trust and a good reputation when you're providing repair services in any industry, though more often than not if the customer insists and it's feasible, you'll proceed with the repairs. Of course, that's another reason the mechanic could be turning away business: repairing the truck just might not be feasible. He notes that it would cost more than the truck's worth to repair it, which means the parts are likely difficult and expensive to source. If the profit margin on such a big job is small, it might not be worth the time and effort, while forcing him to pass up other work that will be more profitable (or simply put him behind schedule). Generally speaking, passing up work isn't a good business practice, but there are certain situations where you might have to do so. |
| 389 | ** Adding into this, it may have made a mechanic money, but keep in mind that when running a business, a project may be profitable, but not ''efficient'' - sure, you might get a profit from this job, but it took so much work to do it that you might as well have ''not'' - since the time you spent working on this project could have been spent working on a quicker job or two that meant more money would be in your pocket at the end of the day than this one project. |
| 390 | ** This is sometimes TruthInTelevision. A mechanic told my dad that his 21 year old hard driven farm truck was not worth the expense of repairing anymore. It was having to be brought in every couple of weeks for something big, and he was tired of having to fix it so often. He liked my dad and didn't like having to charge him so much money so often to maintain a vehicle that wasn't going to ever run right again. So he told my dad that it was time to get another truck. It would save him a lot of money in the long run. That's what the mechanic was doing with Hank. |
| 391 | |
| 392 | [[WMG: Why didn't Bill stay at his old home after he went to visit? His cousins-in-law seemed just as desperate as him for a spouse. Bill always seems like he's jealous of Hank and Dale for having children so at least attempting to produce a son to continue "the Dautrive line" doesn't seem like it would be a problem. It was a win-win situation.]] |
| 393 | He felt guilty for not being a major part of the family growing up, and basically being a child (although early episodes show him with Hank, Dale and Boomhauer around Bobby's age or younger). Why he would feel guilty for being a child when he was a child is another thing. |
| 394 | * Bill wasn't looking for a spouse. He was just "Playing in the garden." |
| 395 | ** To be fair, as desperate for love as Bill can be, he's not ''that'' desperate. Those women who threw themselves at him were nuts. |
| 396 | |
| 397 | [[WMG: When Hank goes to see the doctor in "Hank's Unmentionable Problem"...]] |
| 398 | Dr. Morley tells Hank that a lot of people can live long, healthy (albeit slightly less active) lives without a colon, but he can't wear shorts. What? Why not? |
| 399 | * I would assume because of the colostomy tubes, if the writers thought colostomy tubes went in [[AssShove through the anus]] and not through an abdominal shunt. Alternately, maybe it was just a poop joke? Or a [[ContinuityNod nod]] to Hank having practically no butt, and the colostomy would completely prevent him from being able to wear shorts? |
| 400 | ** Maybe it's because of how some article of clothing are worn, in which case, men's shorts tend to be worn higher on waist (to my observation), so, in which case, the clothing could mess with the colostomy bag (as clothing does have to be carefully put on/worn when one has one), however, that would also extend to pants. |
| 401 | *** Actually, it depends on the type of colostomy bag and where the colostomy placement is. It might be uncomfortable for some to wear high-waisted pants and Dr. Morley has probably dealt with patients who've had a difficult go with certain forms of clothing. |
| 402 | |
| 403 | [[WMG:Cotton telling Dale, Bill and Boomhauer how he lost his shins]] |
| 404 | In his first appearance, he tells the guys the story of how he lost his shins. But, Cotton was a rather strong influence on them growing up, so wouldn't they have heard most of his stories once of twice by then and already know how he lost his shins? |
| 405 | * It's so the viewers could know. |
| 406 | * It's shown consistently the Cotton loves regaling people with his war stories, and Dale at least loves listening to them and regularly requests them. Seems par for the course for the group. |
| 407 | |
| 408 | [[WMG: Bush's presence in Texas]] |
| 409 | Given the Electoral College, most presidential candidates (Even the republican candidates) have virtually no reason to campaign in Texas, and instead battle over the swing states and areas where the peoples' votes count ''more''. So... why is Bush wasting his time there? |
| 410 | * It was his home state and the size of Texas carries quite a few votes. Maybe he just felt a need to show appreciation to the people there. |
| 411 | ** Texas may carry quite a few votes, except that a candidate has virtually ''no'' reason to campaign in their home state unless it's a huge swing state because it's automatically assumed that they'll vote for the person who came from their state, even if it's Texas or California (Which pretty much always go conservative or liberal respectively.) On top of that, the odds of Texas suddenly voting Democrat or California suddenly voting Republican after decades of automatically being considered "red" and "blue" states respectively are ''quite'' low. The time Bush spent in Texas in-universe would probably have been better spent trying to secure votes in "Swing states" like Ohio or Pennsylvania. When was this, 2000? No wonder Gore got more of the popular vote then. |
| 412 | |
| 413 | [[WMG: FOX]] |
| 414 | Of all channels, why would Hank block FOX News? |
| 415 | |
| 416 | * Besides its politics, FOX news has a lot of Page 3-Lite stories, a carry-over from Murdoch's UK holdings. Not truly raunchy, a lot of girls in bikinis stuff. But to Hank, like as not, that would be enough. |
| 417 | ** Bobby did say Hank hated FOX, in which case, he'd block it just for that. |
| 418 | ** Yeah, Hank hates FOX in general, not just FOX News. There was this exchange: |
| 419 | --> '''Bobby''': Dad, can I watch FOX?\ |
| 420 | '''Hank''': Is it football season?\ |
| 421 | '''Bobby''': No.\ |
| 422 | '''Hank''': Then it's blocked. |
| 423 | ** FOX News also has a reputation for airing extremely controversial opinion pieces that likely don't align with Hank's moral compass. He may be conservative-leaning, but he is FAR from the right-wing conspiracy theorists that FOX News is known to appeal/pander to. |
| 424 | ** Probably also a nice helping of BitingtheHandHumor. |
| 425 | |
| 426 | [[WMG: The cast is completely unlikable.]] |
| 427 | There is honestly no likable characters on this show. Everyone's either a dumbass, a Jerkass, or a mixture of both. Hank the protagionist is a stuck up stick in the mud who hates anything that goes out of his comfort zone (Which is everything) and more than willing to threaten violence if people don't do what he wants or his way. Dale is a paranoid nutjob who ruins things more often than not. Bill is a pathetic slob who blames everyone for his problems, we all know that Peggy is the most hated person in the fandom. Strickland is a corrupt DirtyCoward who treats his employees like crap. Cotton is a racist hate filled imp who made up his war claims. Nancy regulary cheats and sleeps around. Nobody in the show is even close to being likable, everyone on it is more than willing to sell out their "friends" on a minute's notice. Take credit for other's works. Sabotage stuff so they get their way and a lot more. The only really decent character on it is Boomhauer due to him mostly just being in the background. |
| 428 | * Indeed they are - but to some, that's [[LoveToHate why they like it]]. Unlikable characters as cast members are pretty much a genre necessity for a comedy. If you're not laughing at people having silly misunderstandings, you're laughing at trashy people you absolutely hate getting comeuppance or having [[ComedicSociopathy terrible things happen to them]]. If these were legitimately likable people having all sorts of bad things happen to them through either their own actions (or idiocy) then it'd be more of a drama or a tragedy, rather than a comedy. As for why this is considered funny? Well... people just like to laugh at people who're worse than they are. It's why ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is full of anti-role models and why Cartman is ''so'' unlikable. |
| 429 | * Although on the other hand, shows like ''Series/TheMaryTylerMooreShow'', ''Series/TheBobNewhartShow'', ''Series/{{Taxi}}'', and to pull a current example, ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' seemed to be funny with only one ButtMonkey each (Ted Baxter, Mr Carlin, Louie De Palma, Sheldon Cooper) apiece, and none of them really 'unlikable' per se. |
| 430 | ** YMMV on ''TheBigBang'' theory not having a bunch of unlikable people, but this isn't the "Big Bang Theory" headscratchers page so I won't say anymore. |
| 431 | * They all have their redeeming qualities, mind you. Hank might be a stick in the mud, but he's a devoted husband and father, a pillar of the community and he sells a clean-burning, natural fuel. Dale's a doting father himself, and his antics are close to 50% of the show's humor (for this troper, at least). Peggy was a good example of a modern, independent woman who didn't let feminism get to her head pre-flanderization. Even Cotton has his moments with Bobby, and let's face it, he killed fitty men with his fat friend's dismembered leg. How awesome is that? Sure they're flawed, but then again, so are we all. |
| 432 | |
| 433 | [[WMG: No Kitty Litter?]] |
| 434 | * In the Trucking episode, Hank winds up stranded in the mountain gap, so they use the ropes and chains meant for tying up the antiques he was hauling for traction. Wouldn't someone as well-prepared as Hank have kept some kitty litter, sandbags, or rock salt in a roadside emergency case for snow? Especially given he was going on a long trip where things could easily go awry? |
| 435 | ** Considering that he was driving from Texas to Arizona and would be in the desert for the most part, he probably couldn't conceive of how he would run into snow. Remember, winding up on a mountain (in Colorado I think) was a complete fluke. |
| 436 | |
| 437 | [[WMG: Why is Dale such a suck-up towards Cotton?]] |
| 438 | * I know it can't just be to piss Hank off. |
| 439 | ** He's probably just a fan of Cotton's badass take-no-prisoners attitude. |
| 440 | ** Or to stay on Cotton's good side, to ensure that Cotton won't murder Dale in his sleep. |
| 441 | ** Cotton will be an indispensable ally when Russia's top secret alien experiments go awry and the resulting zombies gain access to time travel in order to start the robot apocalypse 200 years before it was meant to happen. He needs to stay on Cotton's good side so that he won't have a reason to reject Dale's offer to join/lead his resistance against the communist-cyborg-zombie hordes. |
| 442 | * Dale has had long standing issues with his actual father Bug, whom he saw forcing himself upon his wife Nancy on their wedding day (though it wasn't what it looked like), so he might see "The Colonel" as sort of a surrogate father. He has Cotton as a houseguest in "The Final Shinsult" and "Daletech", and despite Dale's typical hinky ways, he does seem to genuinely admire Cotton, if just for his history as a war hero. Dale also called Cotton "Dad" or "Daddy" on a couple of ocassions, and hugged the ''hell'' out of him in "Revenge of the Lutefish". He blows up Hank's "sissy shack" in remembrance of Cotton. |
| 443 | --->''That was for '''you''', Colonel! So long, sissy shack!'' |
| 444 | |
| 445 | [[WMG: Corporal Punishment]] |
| 446 | In one episode, Peggy got (temporarily) fired for spanking a student who was behaving badly enough to get suspended (i.e. pulling down her skirt for the whole class to see). School corporal punishment is technically still legal in the South, but it still became a giant deal. How did she get into trouble for doing something permitted by law? |
| 447 | * ''Is'' it still legal in Texas? |
| 448 | ** [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/corporal-punishment-statistics_n_4262304.html Yes]]. However, just because it is technically legal does not mean it is compulsory for schools to administer it. Individual schools can set their own policies regarding its use, and it seems the Hill's live and work in an area where it is frowned on and the school does not permit it. If the school's policies and employment contract does not permit corporal punishment, then to administer it is still assault. |
| 449 | *** She is ''also'' a substitute teacher. |
| 450 | *** Well, if she did something illegal as a substitute teacher, it'd kinda be the same difference. |
| 451 | ---->'''Hank:''' You're not gonna get fired; you're a substitute teacher. They'll just stop calling. |
| 452 | *** I took it that Peggy got fired by the school to save face and spanking ''other'' people's kids is very much frowned upon. |
| 453 | |
| 454 | [[WMG: The Passion of the Dauterive]] |
| 455 | What was it about the relationship between Bill and Reverend Stroup that everyone disapproved of? |
| 456 | * Well, it's suggested she and Bill are sleeping together, and they consider living together. That's not acceptable behavior for a Christian minister. She's also distracted from her ministerial duties. On top of that, everybody is disgusted with the idea of Bill having sex with anyone. |
| 457 | ** It was mostly due to how "affectionate" they were. They weren't so much disapproving of their relationship as they were [[{{Squick}} grossed out]] that their pastor was ''publicly'' getting locked in grope-fests and makeout sessions with a fat, balding, middle-aged loser. |
| 458 | |
| 459 | [[WMG: What's the deal with Fatty?]] |
| 460 | In one of Cotton's war stories, he details how Fatty was killed by sharks in the Pacific Ocean after their transport was attacked by a Zero and later explains how he beat to death a number of Japanese soldiers with Fatty's leg. However, in "Serves Me Right for Giving General George S. Patton the Bathroom Key", one of Cotton's demands to Hank is to deliver an item (I can't remember what it was) to Fatty, seemingly under the impression that he's still alive. Even stranger, even though this episode reveals that Fatty is indeed dead, he is apparently survived by a son, "Little Fatty", which seems unlikely considering Fatty's age before being deployed. Even if he did have a son before deployment, he should be somewhere in his 60's, and yet he doesn't appear to be much older than Hank. What gives? |
| 461 | ** Ever see Cotton take Peggy to the VFW for the first time? He introduces everyone inside as either Fatty, Stinky, or Brooklyn (save for one guy called Erwin Linker). Presumably he just defaults to calling bigger guys Fatty. |
| 462 | ** Cotton defaults to calling the morbidly obese Bill "Fatty" as well. |
| 463 | ** Fatty may have had two sons, and the man the guys met was the younger of the brothers. |
| 464 | |
| 465 | [[WMG: Bill's Injury]] |
| 466 | |
| 467 | In the episode where Bill gets trainers to help him get in shape for his physical exam, he overdoes it and injures himself on a weight machine. After he gets medical treatment, the doctor says that whatever he did to himself doesn't have a name, but that his internal organs "became external". Except... it does have a name? Rectal prolapse. Why did the doctor claim that Bill's condition didn't have a term? |
| 468 | * My thought-- either the censors were squeamish about the word "rectal", or Bill's condition was such an advanced case that it defied logic or naming (how severe does such a condition have to be that it becomes fatal? The doctor may have been surprised Bill is still alive!)) |
| 469 | ** He probably didn't want to scare him and make said injury worse. |
| 470 | |
| 471 | [[WMG: Arlen's a small town in Texas, but...]] |
| 472 | |
| 473 | Why's everyone so bent out of shape over someone who they think is racist? Arlen is a mid-to-small town in Texas with a population that seems to be about 90% white. I can understand the minister-lady (Because she's from like, what, Minnesota or Wisconsin, one of those two) but why everyone else? Towns like Arlen are, in RealLife, ''notoriously'' racist - so a lot of people would realistically legit not care whether or not somebody's racist. Are they just falling to PeerPressure? |
| 474 | ** Probably peer pressure, however, the idea, in some cases, that some (or a couple of) people in a small town can be racist (or whatever) could blemish the town's reputation. |
| 475 | *** Even then, a lot of places typically don't view blemishes as a "them" problem so much as an "Everyone else" problem. That's assuming that is they don't just go NoTrueScotsman. |
| 476 | |
| 477 | [[WMG: Ashes in the toilet]] |
| 478 | |
| 479 | In "''Serves Me Right for giving General George S Patton the Bathroom Key''" the bar owner is sick of veterans having their ashes flushed down the Patton toilet because it keeps clogging it. How would ''ashes'' clog a toilet? Wouldn't they just dissolve in the water? |
| 480 | * I think it isn't so much ''that'' Ashes are in the toilet as it is how ''much'' Ashes are flushed down the toilet ''at once''. |
| 481 | ** Cremated remains are not like the ashes from wood or charcoal. They are roughly the texture of coarse sand and most often contain bone fragments and shards. That could easily clog a toilet. |
| 482 | |
| 483 | [[WMG: How did Moss get his job back?]] |
| 484 | |
| 485 | I know that King of the Hill generally doesn't have much in the way of continuity, but how come he went from being fired (and selling steaks) to living in the school? |
| 486 | * Moss mentions he needs to sell steaks until his suspension's lifted. Now how he managed to get out of the "labeling children as special needs to avoid testing them" scam with just a suspension is a totally different question.... |
| 487 | |
| 488 | [[WMG: Pilot/Social Services]] |
| 489 | |
| 490 | * (Moved here from Fridge Logic) How come Social Services were called when Bobby got a black eye but not when he was forced to live in a dog house? |
| 491 | ** One, Bobby was living there voluntarily. Two, the social worker (Anthony Page) was sent back to Los Angeles after he screwed up the child abuse investigation by not talking to the Little League coach (who is friends with Page's boss) to see if the black eye was from an accident during the game[[note]]though Page was brought back on the episode "Junkie Business" as the social worker for the drug addict who tried to claim disability so he can work at Strickland Propane[[/note]]. |
| 492 | ** And three, Hank and Peggy repeatedly begged Bobby to move back into the house. |
| 493 | *** Four: He wasn't ''forced'' to live there. The doghouse was really for Ladybird because they thought Bobby was allergic to her before they figured out he was reacting to broccoli (or something the broccoli was cooked in) and Bobby saw how nice it was, so he opted to go live in it. |
| 494 | *** Actually, Bobby really WAS allergic to her. He just found the right combination of pills to treat it without side effects. |
| 495 | ** As weird as it sounds, a lot of times, CPS can only legally intervene when there's certain grounds to intervene, so, that being said, someone could call CPS on that scenario and they likely wouldn't investigate because 1) Bobby has food, 2) Bobby has shelter, and 3) Bobby isn't being injured, on top of that he's staying in the doghouse voluntarily. |
| 496 | |
| 497 | [[WMG: The fact that Hank, Bill, Dale, and Boomahauer publicly drink beer on the street / Texas open container laws]] |
| 498 | I'm not Texan, so I'm not 100% sure on the intricacies of the law, but my understanding is that, as in many parts of the world (including many parts of Canada and the United States), it is illegal to have an open container of alcohol in public and to consume it. Given that they are standing ''in front of'' a fence, they aren't on any individual's property, but rather in the street, and thus the public. Now, this doesn't mean the four guys ''aren't'' breaking the law--they very well could be--but given that we know Hank tries to be an upstanding, law-abiding citizen, I don't think he'd really feel comfortable constantly doing something so blatantly illegal. I was looking this up, and I found this page written by a Texan lawyer: |
| 499 | |
| 500 | http://texaslawhawk.com/drinking-in-public-legal-in-texas/ |
| 501 | |
| 502 | However, I can't find this information corroborated anywhere else. For example, |
| 503 | |
| 504 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_open-container_laws |
| 505 | |
| 506 | does not list Texas as an exception to the open container laws. So, what is going on here? When the guys drink beer on the street, are they breaking the law or are they not? |
| 507 | ** Not really, as open-container laws usually cover city/public grounds, not residential grounds. The alley where they drink would be considered, in some sense, "residential grounds". |
| 508 | *** Likely this. The property probably extends all the way to the alley, but the fence is required to be a set distance back. The guys are still on private property as long as they're standing on the grass. |
| 509 | ** The female officer who was sexually harassing Hank in "Lupe's Revenge" gave the guys shit for the "open bottle law", but didn't follow through with it (more likely because she was more interested in sexing Hank). |
| 510 | |
| 511 | [[WMG: Some bits of the episode Dale Be Not Proud]] |
| 512 | I get that it's a cartoon and RuleOfFunny and RuleOfCool apply. Going off the ending, it seems as if the 10 year old boy did get Dale's kidney after all. I am more confused on how Dale and Hank are just allowed to walk out of the hospital, and how that hospital didn't have security to stop Dale from escaping. |
| 513 | |
| 514 | [[WMG: Why did Bobby even face detention during the end of "A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Clown"?]] |
| 515 | He didn't even DO anything to deserve it for a change. It's not like his talent show act was against school rules or anything. Was it because of what he said about the principal? I forget the wording, but it was in regards of eating beans and it making you pass gas. Was it another case of RuleOfFunny? |
| 516 | |
| 517 | [[WMG: random, Enricque's kids]] |
| 518 | A line in season 3, in Spanish mentions he has 3 kids. Later episodes we only see the daughter, are the others kids referenced or does the change in kids reflect how they did a 180 to his character? |
| 519 | * If he has three kids, then the daughter we see is probably the youngest, so the absence of the other kids could be because they either moved out or whatever. If not, they were probably retconned. |
| 520 | |
| 521 | [[WMG: Peggy's computer]] |
| 522 | She starts the show with a Kaypro, then gets a plot-point upgrade in season 4. She has what looks like an iMac g3. That's a big enough expensive they would have talked about it..how come it's just there? |
| 523 | ** She was given the [=iMac=] in "Hillennium" as a Christmas present. Hard to say how Hank afforded it, but also remember that Hank saved a bunch of money that Christmas because he bought the family toilet paper instead of expensive gifts. |
| 524 | |
| 525 | [[WMG: How did the Snake get from Hank's toilet to the sewer, if Hank has a septic tank?]] |
| 526 | * In one episode, Bobby gets a pet snake from Lucky, but it ends up going into Hank's toilet and causing panic throughout the town. But it's mentioned that Hank has a septic tank in Hank's Friend. So how could it have gotten to the sewer if his toilet is connected to the septic tank, not a sewer? |
| 527 | ** Bill was the one with the septic tank, not Hank. |
| 528 | *** Hank has one too, he even memorized its location. The snake episode was either a retcon or just NegativeContinuity for the purposes of the plot. |
| 529 | |
| 530 | [[WMG: Debbie carrying an unconcealed shotgun into a convenience store]] |
| 531 | * It's a minor detail that doesn't affect the episode's outcome, but in "High Anxiety", how is Debbie able to bring an unconcealed (!) shotgun into the Get-In Get-Out without any trouble? Putting aside that she wasn't attempting to rob the place, many stores have signs that specifically state that they ban guns in the premises. I know it's Texas but it still seems like a stretch that you could carry shotguns into stores without the cops being called. |
| 532 | ** It's possible that the police were called, but by the time they arrived, Debbie had already had her mishap in the dumpster that resulted in her death. |
| 533 | *** Isn't Texas an open carry state? |
| 534 | |
| 535 | [[WMG: Bobby and the chicken pox]] |
| 536 | * In season 2's "The Man Who Shot Cane Skretteburg", it's established that Bobby and Joseph are sick with the chicken pox. Yet within the same day, Hank wants to reward them by taking them to the fun center. Keep in mind, when Bobby is first shown in the episode, he's barely able to walk because of how weak he is from the sickness, collapsing on the lawn. How did Bobby recover from the chicken pox so fast that he's able to play paintball? |
| 537 | ** Misdiagnosis? |
| 538 | |
| 539 | [[WMG: What exactly happened to Coach Sours]] |
| 540 | I mean he is knocked out and disappears without explanation. Did Hank Kill him? It seems very likely that between him running into the brick wall with a helmet (which likely caused the crazy behavior he exhibits in his final scene) was he fired, quit, arrested? it was never mentioned. If Hank did kill him, he likely wouldn't be held responsible as Sours was trying to mow the kids down with his car and may have died anyway from either a stroke or traumatic brain injury. |
| 541 | ** He was already crazy from the beginning, that was the point of the episode. He had the kids do heavy exercise, like relentlessly run up and down the bleachers, threw footballs excruciatingly hard at them, and made them do pushes while ''telling'' them to eat mud doing it, and lastly, the ''reason'' he ran into the brick wall himself with a ''cracked open'' helmet was because it was his "test" for if it was faulty, and Joseph wouldn't do it himself, because it was obvious it was a bad idea. Couch Sours makes it abundantly clear, as does Hank in that episode and others, that the man was and still is a psychotically vicious hard-ass. The car was just the last straw for Hank. As to what happened to him, Hank hit him with an empty container for Gatorade, which considering Hank is not a man who intends lethal force, it's unlikely it killed him. It isn't shown or mentioned because we can presume that he was either arrested or fired from Hank stepping in and handling it, as what else would/could he do with him? As for him being killed, King of the Hill isn't the kind of show to just kill people without either making it clear that there dead, as with Big Jim, Buckley, Trip Larson, and so on... |
| 542 | [[WMG: Is Arlen a town or city]] |
| 543 | It's refered to as a town but has many amenities that only cities would have. |
| 544 | |
| 545 | * According to the second season episode "Snow Job," Arlen has a population of 1,454, which would make it a town. However, the 3rd Season episode "Hank's Cowboy Movie" shows a population of 145,300, which would definitely mean it's a city. |
| 546 | |
| 547 | [[WMG: The episode where Hank had Mono in the past]] |
| 548 | * How'd Peggy ''immediately'' deduce Hank kissed someone? I get it she's established as not being very smart, and [[ScienceMarchesOn knowledge of asymptomatic carriers of Epstein-Barr wasn't as well known when the episode was made let alone when the flashbacks were set]], but even back then, it was common knowledge that mono was spread through saliva so someone could have just sneezed or coughed near Hank. |
| 549 | ** It's because he lied about it. If you lie about having "The Kissing Disease", then it's pretty damn easy to assume that you're hiding the fact that you kissed somebody. |
| 550 | * When Mono goes around, it's... kind of a big deal since Mono can knock people on their ass for ''weeks'' if not ''months''. Did Peggy not remember a "Mono outbreak" in their high school years? |
| 551 | ** There wasn't an outbreak. The girl who gave it to Hank was the only other person who had it at the time. |
| 552 | |
| 553 | [[WMG: "I'm going to kick your ass."]] |
| 554 | Technically, asses ''are'' located below the belt... so Hank may be a bit of a hypocrite in saying to Bobby that only dirty fighters aim for that area. I suppose, though, as long as it isn't the 'nards, it's permissible to aim one's aggression at an opponent's butt, knees, shins, and feet. |
| 555 | ** Yes, rear ends are below the belt but getting kicked in them isn't as painful as getting kicked in your unmentionables. In general, however, when Hank says he'll kick someone's ass, what he means is that he'll beat them up. |
| 556 | |
| 557 | [[WMG: You can tape it!]] |
| 558 | In "Meet The Manger Babies", why didn't Hank just tape the Super Bowl? In several episodes, they are seen watching several VHS tapes, so I'm sure there are some blank ones. So why didn't he do that? |
| 559 | * Do you honestly think that Hank Hill is the kind of man to not watch the Super Bowl exactly when it's happening? Seeing it late is just not how it's done for a fan like him. Hank sees a proper way to do things and he sticks by it. |
| 560 | ** And Bill and/or Dale would probably spoil the game's outcome before he had a chance to watch it. |
| 561 | |
| 562 | [[WMG: Peggy is from Montana...]] |
| 563 | ...so why did she go to high school in Texas? |
| 564 | * That was something of a retcon, as the episode focused on her family in Montana depicts them ''radically'' different from how they were shown before, and it made it pretty clear that they had moved to Texas instead of staying in Montana, and that her parents had ''moved back'' at some point. None of this was directly stated, but it was implied by their original appearances, in both the literal and figurative sense, and the episode "A Rover Runs Through It" just ignored all of the prior ones. |
| 565 | |
| 566 | [[WMG: Why does Hank hate Social Services so much?]] |
| 567 | * Maybe I missed or forgot something, but in the Pilot, Hank finds himself under investigation for child abuse and it is understandable he'd be angry at A) being accused of being abusive towards his family as that could result in him losing his job and much more even if no evidence is found and B) the prospect of Bobby being taken away for obvious reasons, but he almost has an aneurysm when talking about his taxes going towards paying Social Service workers, so what gives? "Oh, how darrrrrre my tax dollars go towards paying people whose job it is to take young defenseless children out of households where they're being beaten, neglected, and screamed at to the point of tears." |
| 568 | |
| 569 | [[WMG: Anyone else finding it weird that Luanne had pre-marital sex with Lucky despite her vow to stay abstinent until marriage in "Luanne the Virgin 2.0"?]] |
| 570 | * I mean, people can change their mind, I guess, but it sounds out of character for her given she's so religious. In fact, I was surprised to learn she had had sex at all, considering what a big no-no pre-marital sex is for a Christian. She's so adamant on saying Bobby will "go to hell" if he peeks at her again (which was an accident on his part) given that they're cousins. I'm just saying that she needs a mirror. |
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