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1''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5627314/1/In-this-World-and-the-Next In This World and the Next]]'' is a ''Literature/HarryPotter'' PeggySue fic in which Harry and Hermione, having been sentenced to the Dementor’s Kiss for killing [[RonTheDeathEater Evil!Ron]], instead find themselves propelled back to the beginning of the [[Literature/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone first novel]].
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3See also ''Fanfic/KnowledgeIsPower'', written by the same author.
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6!!''In This World and the Next'' contains examples of:
7* AlienSpaceBats: The premise, which involves an exploding Dementor somehow allowing the nominally-adult Harry and Hermione to possess their past selves back in 1991: nothing about the established properties of Dementors or Potterverse time travel implies this to be possible.
8* AllAbusersAreMale: Implied by the suggestion that [[spoiler:making Ron female will stop him from becoming the rapist he is in the original timeline]].
9* ArtisticLicenseMedicine: [[invoked]] No, you can't change somebody’s gender identity with a GroinAttack. Although, to be fair, this could be a case of ScienceMarchesOn, that is, from 1991, when the story is set. [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer There was an actual case where doctors performed a sex change on a boy whose genitals had been damaged]]; until the truth came out in the mid-1990s, the medical literature was full of accounts about how well this worked and what it "proved" about the flexibility of gender. It should be noted that we only have the healer’s word (which, again, reflected then-currently accepted science) as to [[spoiler:Ron]]’s prognosis and how well he will adjust; we never actually ''see'' how well he actually adjusts.
10* CardCarryingVillain: Ron’s characterization has become a medley of all the unpleasant traits the author could dump on him, with no regard to how they mesh together (see InformedFlaw).
11* {{Chickification}}: Hermione manages to be overpowered by "shit wizard" Ron ''twice'' for the sake of RapeAsBackstory. That she doesn’t otherwise appear to be reduced in power constitutes a major PlotHole.
12* ClusterFBomb: See ObligatorySwearing: the fic might as well be called ''In This Shit and the Fuck'' with how frequently those words crop up.
13* ContrivedCoincidence: Any of the Weasleys would be perfectly justified in wanting revenge on Lord Potter; in any event, the one who decides to actually go through with it is [[spoiler:Percy]], whom Lord Potter just happens to want to kill anyway.
14* CrapsackWorld: The original timeline is so bad that letting Voldemort win would probably have improved matters. A prominent example is that it is perfectly legal for a pureblood to rape a Muggle-born (who ought to feel honored to get a pureblood’s attention) and it is illegal for a Muggle-born to get an abortion after such an encounter. Remember that Voldemort had nothing to do with this.
15* DamselInDistress: Poor Hermione is [[{{Chickification}} turned into this]] just so Harry can rescue her from Ron’s clutches.
16%%* DarkerAndEdgier: The very premise mandates this.
17* DeusExMachina: Harry and Hermione are sentenced to the [[FateWorseThanDeath Dementor’s Kiss]] for killing Ron. Instead, the Dementor ''[[MadeOfExplodium explodes]]'' and releases their life force, allowing them to [[PeggySue go back in time]].
18%%* DirtyCoward: Ron, according to Hermione and the Sorting Hat. However, see InformedFlaw.
19* DisproportionateRetribution: Though Ron’s sudden seizure of the VillainBall and rape of Hermione is despicable, Harry and Hermione decide to exact revenge on his entire immediate family as well. Harry claims Molly is trying to kidnap him and [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished gets her arrested at King’s Cross for trying to help him find Platform 9 3/4]], assumes she and her family will attack him despite being unarmed and attacks them first when they walk into the Great Hall, and [[spoiler:forces the Weasley family into destitution by suing them for damages despite Harry having greater financial worth than the entire family does hundreds of times over]]. As a result of Harry’s actions, [[spoiler:Arthur and Bill lose their jobs and the whole family (save for Charlie) becomes homeless because Harry seizes their house to tear it down and replace it with a mansion]].
20%%* DistressBall: Hermione picks it up when being overpowered and raped.
21* EasySexChange: Ron isn’t even conscious while the decision is being made for him and he wakes up as his new gender.
22* EstablishingSeriesMoment: The second paragraph mentions what is implied (and later confirmed) to be "Ronald [[ObligatorySwearing Fucking]] Weasley" raping Hermione, while the third hastily and acrimoniously breaks up Harry and Ginny. Both of these say a great deal about how far the author is willing to go to set Harry and Hermione up together.
23* ExactWords: Dumbledore asks Harry if he could "have a quick word" and Harry says "velocity", an uncredited [[ShoutOut reference]] to a similar outburst by Scottish football manager (and legendary DeadpanSnarker) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Strachan Gordon Strachan]] when he was faced with that question from a reporter.
24* ExplosiveOverclocking: Harry and Hermione have so much magical power that they cause the Dementor to [[MadeOfExplodium explode]] when it consumes their life force, [[DeusExMachina giving them a second chance at life]].
25* FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: Hermione insults Ron one last time by saying to the Dementor, "C’mon big guy, I’ve been kissed by Ron Weasley so this should actually seem pleasant!"
26* FantasticRacism: The canonical disregard for Muggle-born wizards is taken further and beyond. Bizarrely, once Harry and Hermione arrive in the past they find the Wizarding World to be somewhat enlightened on this matter. In that case, how on Earth did Umbridge get away with keeping Voldemort’s purity laws on the books?
27* FateWorseThanDeath: The Dementor’s Kiss, which is intended for Harry and Hermione. However, this does not come to pass.
28* FirstEpisodeTwist: Ron turning evil and raping Hermione, causing Hermione to abort the resultant pregnancy and Harry to kill Ron in revenge after Ron tries to rape Hermione again, resulting in both of them receiving the Dementor’s Kiss and being transported back to the past. It is impossible to describe anything else in the story without spoiling this.
29* ForWantOfANail: After Harry and Hermione are sent back in time to the beginning of their first year at Hogwarts with information and magical ability from the future, the ensuing slew of changes results in [[spoiler:Voldemort being defeated (and Dumbledore’s reputation getting destroyed) within two months]].
30%%* GenderBender: The consequence of [[spoiler:Ron’s GroinAttack]].
31* GenericDoomsdayVillain: Ron doesn’t seem to have any motivation for his behavior.
32%%* {{Gorn}}: Ron’s death scene. See HalfTheManHeUsedToBe.
33%%* GratuitousRape: As a motivator for Harry and Hermione to kill Ron, it could really have been replaced by any other villainous act.
34%%* GroinAttack: Happens to Ron (repeatedly) in the new timeline.
35* HalfTheManHeUsedToBe: Ron is practically blasted in half.
36* IneffectualSympatheticVillain:
37** Ron, who can’t even hex two {{Muggles}} properly, though the "sympathetic" is questionable.
38** A group of bullies from Hermione’s old school appear out of nowhere at one point, and although we’re [[ShowDontTell told]] how miserable they made her back in the day, all we’re ''shown'' is how easy it is for her and Lord Potter to send them packing.
39* InformedAttribute: In the words of [[http://szaleniec1000.livejournal.com szaleniec1000]]:
40-->It’s tempting to say this author is bad at characterisation, but that’s not quite true. He’s very good at characterisation, but terrible at making it match his intentions. I have a good picture in my head of Lord Potter the [[JerkAss self-righteous arrogant bastard]], Hermione the [[{{Chickification}} submissive damsel]], and now [=McGonagall=] as [[DirtyCoward a Wormtail figure abandoning her friends when someone more apparently powerful comes along]], but that’s obviously not what the author intended.
41* InformedFlaw: The Sorting Hat doesn’t put Ron in Gryffindor because of his cowardice; this is someone whose main contribution to the plot so far [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble will be to]] attack a witch who’s provably more skilled and powerful than he is, twice, apparently just for the hell of it.
42* InSpiteOfANail: Harry is convinced that Teddy Lupin can be born in the new timeline, in spite of the multitude of changes that have been made. Considering that these changes include Tonks and Lupin getting married years before they do in canon and surviving, the likelihood that any child they have will have any similarities to the Teddy that Harry left behind in the old timeline is slim.
43* JustPlaneWrong: Jumbo jets are claimed to fly at fifty thousand feet. The standard cruising height for commercial aircraft is only thirty-five thousand feet.
44* KangarooCourt:
45** Harry and Hermione, in their trial for killing Ron and aborting his baby, respectively. They know they have no hope of getting off, especially since the Dementor is already there, so they merely decide to taunt Ron and those who put them on trial before they go.
46** The court that rules in Harry’s favor and [[spoiler:awards him all the Weasleys’ assets]], considering that he very clearly attacks first and his victim is unarmed.
47* KickTheDog:
48** Ron raping Hermione for no apparent reason sets the entire plot in motion.
49** Not only does the court quickly convict and sentence Harry and Hermione to death without anything resembling a fair trial, but when Harry snarkily says that he didn’t think the magical government was capable of organizing this, Umbridge decides to have Hermione’s sentence carried out first so that Harry can watch.
50%%* MadeOfExplodium: Dementors, apparently.
51* MenActWomenAre: The events of the first chapter are driven entirely by the actions of Harry and evil!Ron, with Hermione serving only as a passive observer and victim.
52%%* MixedMetaphor: Inevitable when you’ve got an author who’s fond of both metaphors and run-on sentences. The scene where Lord Potter springs the rat trap in the snake’s den led one reviewer to reference Music/MitchBenn’s "Devil and a Hard Place".
53* MythologyGag: Hermione’s parents are called [[Creator/DanielRadcliffe Dan]] and [[Creator/EmmaWatson Emma]], a common piece of fanon.
54* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Molly Weasley offers to help Harry get onto Platform Nine and Three-Quarters. Unfortunately, this Harry has just been sent back in time from a future where two of her children betrayed him, and he starts getting retribution by shouting that she's trying to abduct him while they're still in the Muggle portion of King's Cross. She, along with Percy and the twins, gets taken into police custody for her trouble.
55* ObligatorySwearing: That "Ronald Fucking Weasley" is a "shit wizard" is only the start.
56* OutOfCharacter: At one point, Hermione [[LampshadeHanging describes herself as such]] in so many words—it’s hard to argue with her assessment.
57* PeggySue: The plot’s kicked off by Harry and Hermione unintentionally traveling back in time to the start of their first year at Hogwarts.
58* PerfectSolutionFallacy: The criticism of several of the canonical characters, especially Dumbledore, seems to be based on the idea that they are useless if not evil because they aren’t perfect and make mistakes, [[{{Hypocrite}} no matter that the entire plot hinges on Harry and Hermione abandoning wizarding Britain to be taken over by the remnants of Voldemort’s army]].
59* PlotHole: Hermione apparently has enough power to overload a Dementor, but can be overpowered by a "shit wizard". It could be an extreme case of UnskilledButStrong, with emphasis on the former, but if so then this isn’t established at all.
60* ProtagonistCentredMorality: Not only is pureblood supremacy presented as being as evil as it is in canon, characters who aren’t pureblood supremacists in the books are in the fic for no reason but to show us [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain how evil they are]]. However, Harry loves nothing more than exercising his privileges as "Lord Potter" and demanding that everyone address him as such. So claiming you’re better than other people because of the circumstances of your birth is bad, [[BrokenAesop except when it isn’t]]. Admittedly, using aristocratic precedence to get yourself preferential treatment socially is still a far cry from using it to violate civil rights and get away with murder[[note]]Harry does commit murder, just not in public.[[/note]] so Harry can at least still claim ''[[BlackAndGreyMorality some]]'' moral high ground.
61* {{Qurac}}: [[UsefulNotes/ModernEgypt Egypt]], which in real life is a modern secular state, is depicted this way, complete with locals who want to buy Molly for camels.
62* RapeAsBackstory: Hermione is raped by Ron, thus causing her to get pregnant and have an abortion, which is the offense that leads to her being sentenced to the Dementor’s Kiss. Ron’s attempt to rape her a second time results in Harry killing him and getting the same punishment.
63* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: The reason "Ronald [[ObligatorySwearing Fucking]] Weasley" is reviled enough for Harry and Hermione to kill him and be sentenced themselves to the Dementor’s Kiss.
64* ReplacementGoldfish: Harry and Hermione seem to work under the assumption that a child born to Tonks and Lupin in the new timeline will be the same person as the Teddy Lupin they leave in the old timeline, despite being born under completely different circumstances into a [[ForWantOfANail completely different world]].
65* RevengeFic: Once Harry and Hermione go back in time, they take revenge on anyone the author doesn’t like—the Weasleys, Snape, Dumbledore, Umbridge—the list goes on and on.
66* RunningGag: After Fudge [[TakeALevelInBadass actually decides to do his job]], people are kind of shocked. The general consensus is, "Wow. I may actually vote for the arse." Even Fudge himself is surprised that actually doing a good job is a better election pitch than his ineffective past.
67* SanitySlippage: Watching Harry continually humiliate him, resist his plans and destroy his reputation has this effect on Dumbledore. [[spoiler: His sanity starts to slip following Voldemort’s defeat, when he declares that Harry must have been possessed by Voldemort, and tries to kill him. By the end of the story, his mental state has deteriorated to the point that he’s seeing a baby Fawkes that isn’t there.]]
68* ScunthorpeProblem: That the title’s initials contain a profanity[[note]]assuming "and" and "the" count in the initials; in acronyms, the former is often rendered as & and the latter is not always included[[/note]] has not been lost on reviewers, especially considering the [[ObligatorySwearing tone of the story’s dialogue]].
69* SecondhandStorytelling: So much of the actual story seems to take place offpage (see also ShowDontTell) that it would probably be twice as long as it [[DoorStopper already is]] otherwise.
70* ShowDontTell: Frequently averted, with lines such as "the love [Sirius] felt for this boy knew no bounds", and Harry repeatedly telling Hermione [[{{Chickification}} what a smart and strong witch she is]].
71* SophisticatedAsHell:
72-->''"I am Lord Harry James Potter, last scion of the Noble and Ancient House of Potter, banisher of the Dark Lord Voldemort. Who the fuck are you to call me boy?"''
73* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodSandwich: When Harry and Hermione meet with Dan and Emma over dinner, everyone forgets about dinner as Emma demands an explanation for Hermione's decision to erase her parents' memories. Dan remarks that the next time they meet, they'll "actually get to eat some food."
74* TitleDrop: "I’ll love you forever Harry, in this world and the next."
75* UnusuallyUninterestingSight: The only people who seem to notice anything strange about how two first-year students are married to each other are the Weasleys, who are also the only people to whom it occurs that there might be a problem with this.
76* WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma: Almost ''every'' sentence contains a comma splice. Also, the author seems reluctant to capitalise proper nouns.
77* WeaksauceWeakness: Apparently, goblins have the power to destroy Horcruxes... ''by feeding them to pigs''. (Or by doing ''something'' that transfers the soul fragment into a pig, it’s not made clear.) They then kill and eat the pig, which destroys the Horcrux. And Gringotts ''does this for a fee''. It’s {{Hand Wave}}d that Voldemort doesn’t know about this because he doesn’t care about any nonhuman magic, even though one would think he would do as much research as possible into how to destroy the only source of his immortality, especially when ''the service is openly advertised''.

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