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| 3 | !Main Characters |
| 4 | [[folder:Dorothy Zbornak]] |
| 5 | !! Dorothy Zbornak, née Petrillo (Creator/BeaArthur)[[note]]Also played by Creator/LynnieGreene in flashbacks[[/note]] |
| 6 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ggdorothy.png]] |
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| 8 | A substitute teacher from Brooklyn, New York who is very well-read with a rapier wit, but prone to arrogance and being a DeadpanSnarker; even so, Dorothy tends to be the most grounded of the four titular girls. |
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| 11 | * AllegedlyDateless: She seems to be going out on dates every other week, and has dated doctors, teachers, business owners, even an Admiral (also admittedly a few losers, but even then that's hardly 'dateless'). To listen to the other girls, however, you'd think she had never had a single date. Blanche and Sophia (and very rarely, Rose) make fun of her for it -- though, ironically, ''Dorothy'' is the one who marries the former's uncle in the finale and leaves the latter to take care of Blanche and Rose, while Blanche and Sophia remain perpetually single, while Rose, the nicest to her, remains in a committed relationship with Miles but ends up breaking up with him in ''The Golden Palace.'' |
| 12 | * {{Bookworm}}: A frequenter at the local library who always turns her books in on time... who are you to judge her? She's committed a great deal of Creator/RaymondChandler and Creator/DashiellHammett to memory...leading Sophia to quip, "you do this on first dates, don't you?" |
| 13 | * ButtMonkey: Tends to have the worst luck when it comes to her personal life. Dorothy is actually a deconstruction of this trope, as the poor treatment she gets at the hands of her roommates (and has gotten all her life from her mother) is a large factor of why she keeps getting back together with Stan despite how badly it always goes. |
| 14 | * BrainyBrunette: As seen in flashbacks. |
| 15 | * BreakTheHaughty: Whenever she begins to think too highly of herself, Blanche, Sophia, or just [[ButtMonkey life]] steps in to take her down. |
| 16 | * CallingTheOldManOut: |
| 17 | ** In ''The Monkey Show'', Dorothy finds out that Sophia set up Stan with Dorothy's sister Gloria, and she's more than miffed that, after all the years Sophia spent complaining about Dorothy being with Stan, she suddenly thinks he's a good catch for Gloria. Dorothy decides that she's tired of Sophia trivializing her feelings and walks out on her. |
| 18 | ** In ''Where’s Charlie?'', after Dorothy discovers that Sophia has been pretending to be possessed by Rose’s late husband, and as a result has very nearly ruined Rose’s current relationship with her boyfriend Miles, she flat out calls her a horrible person and demands that she tell Rose the truth. |
| 19 | * CatchPhrase: "Shady Pines, Ma!" or some variation of it, usually to keep Sophia from making an inappropriate comment: |
| 20 | -->'''[[StraightGay Clayton]]:''' I'd do anything for Doug, and he'd bend over backwards for me! |
| 21 | -->'''Dorothy:''' ''(reflexively pulling Sophia into a death grip of a hug with her hand over Sophia's mouth)'' Sometimes I just love to hug my mommy! |
| 22 | * TheChewToy: Frequently will ask an innocent question, only for it to turn into a series of insults. One time she found a strange rock under her bed. Marguerite, their housekeeper whom they suspected of practicing voodoo, put it there. |
| 23 | -->'''Marguerite''': I learned it from my grandmother. You put a specially-painted rock under a person's bed to guarantee a restful sleep. I figured with those bags under your eyes, you needed the rest. |
| 24 | -->'''Rose''': Dorothy always looks like that. |
| 25 | -->'''Blanche''': Besides, it'll take more than sleep to knock out those babies. |
| 26 | -->'''Dorothy''': Listen, why don't I just lay down and you all take turns hitting me with a two-by-four? |
| 27 | * CompressedVice: Dorothy has grappled with both cigarette smoking and a gambling addiction. Notably, both vices were ones she had dealt with before, and the episode involved Dorothy falling back into the habit. |
| 28 | * DeadpanSnarker: A legendary example; it's one of her defining traits, and one that she clearly inherited from her mother. Nobody, be they friend, family or otherwise, is safe from Dorothy's snark, especially [[TheDitz Rose]]. |
| 29 | * DeathGlare: She's a master of this; she employs it on almost everyone. |
| 30 | * DoesntLikeGuns: In the episode where the girls' house is broken into and ransacked, a traumatized Rose is so scared about thieves that she ultimately buys herself a gun. Dorothy is automatically appalled and makes it clear that she cannot live in a house where there is a gun. |
| 31 | * TheDreaded: PlayedForLaughs. While Sophia and Dorothy have a more or less mutually familial bickering, and Rose and Blanche can usually get away with prodding her some, all of them (particularly the latter two) wither at the thought of getting Dorothy truly angry with them. |
| 32 | -->'''Blanche:''' You remember what happened when you lost her car keys? |
| 33 | -->'''Rose:''' ''(shuddering)'' She uprooted a mighty sequoia... |
| 34 | * EarnYourHappyEnding: The final two episodes of the series were about Dorothy finally finding true love with Blanche's uncle, Lucas Hollingsworth, and marrying him. |
| 35 | * EmbarrassingNickname: "Moose", according to her mother. "Spumoni Face" was her father's nickname for her. |
| 36 | * EveryoneHasStandards: In ''Where’s Charlie?'', when she finds out that Sophia has been pretending to be possessed by Rose’s late husband Charlie for cheap laughs and a few quick bucks, she doesn’t find it funny at all, especially when it nearly ruins Rose’s relationship with her boyfriend Miles. |
| 37 | -->'''Dorothy:''' [[CallingTheOldManOut You’re a]] ''[[CallingTheOldManOut horrible]]'' [[CallingTheOldManOut little person.]] |
| 38 | * {{Expy}}: Averted. Bea Arthur would bristle whenever someone suggested that Dorothy was an Expy of her previous character [[Series/{{Maude}} Maude Findlay]], pointing out that Dorothy is quite a bit mellower than Maude although the two do share some similarities. |
| 39 | %% * FourPhilosophyEnsemble: The Realist. |
| 40 | %% * FourTemperamentEnsemble: The Melancholic. |
| 41 | * HereditaryWeddingDress: Discussed in the SeriesFinale of ''Series/TheGoldenGirls''. Sophia expresses mild disappointment about Dorothy not using her wedding dress on her wedding day (keep in mind that the former is 4'11" and petite while the latter is 5'9" and of average build). To this, Dorothy replies, "As what, Ma, a hand puppet?" |
| 42 | * IncrediblyLameFun: Doesn't understand why her students don't share her enthusiasm for ''diagramming sentences.'' She also wanted to resolve unfinished with Sophia, by going to Disneyland, only to spent it in the hotel room looking at albums, much to Sophia's annoyance. |
| 43 | * InsufferableGenius: At her worst. For example when she auditioned for Jeopardy! her cocky attitude ruins her chance to appear on TV and Sophia tells her that it was the same at School. |
| 44 | * KickTheDog: Most of the barbs directed at Dorothy focus on her physical characteristics and perceived unattractiveness. Reached a point where it began to bother Bea Arthur and she demanded the writers lighten up on it. |
| 45 | * LadyLooksLikeADude: Is sometimes mistaken for a man due to her height and deep voice. Many of Blanche and Sophia's insults are in this vein, though Dorothy would occasionally use this to her own benefit as well. Once, when the girls were in jail and a woman tried to pick a fight with Blanche, Dorothy jumped in and said that the woman would have to go through her first, and she warned her that she'd done time in Attica. When the other woman mentioned that Attica is a men's prison, Dorothy said, "I know. I was there a year before they found out." The other woman backed off. |
| 46 | * TheLeader: Of the De Facto kind, although Sophia is the TeamMom, leadership usually defaults to Dorothy. |
| 47 | * MadLibsCatchphrase : Any time Rose would AskAStupidQuestion, Dorothy's usual response is a brief DeathGlare before she replies "No, Rose", followed up with an equally absurd DeadpanSnarker answer. |
| 48 | -->'''Blanche''': You seem a little nervous.\ |
| 49 | '''Dorothy''': Oh, I am.\ |
| 50 | '''Rose''': Are you nervous because you haven't met Michael's fiancée?\ |
| 51 | '''Dorothy''': No, Rose. I'm nervous because if Sonny Bono gets elected mayor of Palm Springs, he's going to make all the postmen wear leather bell-bottoms and a fur vest. |
| 52 | * MamaBear: A good mom and gets very outraged when her daughter was cheated on; she also gets incensed on Blanche's daughter Rebecca's behalf when her boyfriend made cruel jokes about her weight and had to be restrained. |
| 53 | * OnlySaneMan: Around 90% of the time, but DependingOnTheWriter she's had moments when the others (usually Sophia) have to [[NotSoAboveItAll bring her back down to Earth.]] |
| 54 | * OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When even ''Dorothy'' doesn't have a snarky comeback, you '''''know''''' that something is, most definitely, wrong. |
| 55 | * ReactionShot: Bea Arthur could sell these like nobody else. The camera frequently focuses on Dorothy's annoyed expressions to her roommates' foolishness. Sometimes she could deliver one without the camera focusing on her at all. |
| 56 | * ShotgunWedding: The only reason for her failed first marriage is because Stan got her pregnant in high school. |
| 57 | * SurroundedByIdiots: She's often laments that she's the sole voice of reason in the house, when compared to [[CloudCuckoolander Rose]], [[LovableSexManiac Blanche]], and [[ScrewPolitenessImASenior her mother.]] |
| 58 | * TallDarkAndSnarky: A rare female example. Dorothy is the tallest of the girls, a former brunette, and often snaps at her roommates for being stupid. |
| 59 | * TeenPregnancy: Was impregnated during high school, courtesy of Stan and a vaguely BlackComedyRape date in the back of a car. |
| 60 | * {{Tsundere}}: She and an undercover cop who lives with them in one episode have a SlapSlapKiss dynamic. |
| 61 | * ThemeNaming: Well, nicknaming. Dorothy was usually called "Pussycat" by Sophia, and when her sister Gloria showed up, Sophia called her "Kitten." |
| 62 | * TheUnfavorite: Felt like Sophia favored her younger sister, Gloria, over her. Turns out Gloria often felt like TheUnfavorite compared to Dorothy because she felt like Sophia respected Dorothy more. |
| 63 | * UnstoppableRage: Alluded at. She apparently once made a policeman cry, and in Rose's words, "uprooted a mighty sequoia" after Rose lost her keys. |
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| 66 | [[folder:Blanche Devereaux]] |
| 67 | !! Blanche Devereaux, née Hollingsworth (Creator/RueMcClanahan) |
| 68 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ggblanche.png]] |
| 69 | %% |
| 70 | A native of Georgia who owns the house the girls all live in. [[note]] Originally--later in the series, she sells each of the girls a share of the house to circumvent a law against having too many renters, and to truly show they were all family.[[/note]] A distinctly Southern FemmeFatale who scoffs at the idea that a woman can't have a sex life after 50 (or 40, or however old she says she is that day). |
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| 73 | * ACupAngst: Despite being catnip on legs for most of the men of Miami, Blanche had a few episodes devoted to feeling a little inadequate in this regard. She considers implants in one episode, and in another, when Rose tries to psych her out at a bowling tournament by wearing the exact same outfit, Rose says not to worry because it looks different on a woman with a full bosom. In another episode, Blanche flirts with a man by claiming she is going to lie in a bath with "just enough water to barely cover my perky bosom", to which Sophia responds with "You're only gonna sit in an inch of water?" This is enough to set Blanche off. |
| 74 | -->'''Blanche:''' Sophia, I've decided to wear this little watch on a chain nestled cunningly in my cleavage. What other accessories do I need?\ |
| 75 | '''Sophia:''' Implants. |
| 76 | * AgeInsecurity: She is so adamant about keeping her sex life alive that she had her age withheld by the governor. |
| 77 | * AlphaBitch: |
| 78 | ** Seems to have been one when she was a child if her stories are accurate. She grew up in a family of them. During Christmas one year, one of Blanche's sisters electrocuted her with the star of the Christmas tree, and then blamed her for the whole thing, which led their father to send her to her room and tell her that Baby Jesus was mad at her for ruining his birthday ([[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and the electricity straightened her hair.]]) And let's not forget ''Vixen, Story of a Woman.'' |
| 79 | ** Some of the stories of her exploits in high school also suggest this as well as mean girl tendencies. She once planned to marry the father of one of her cheerleading rivals, just so she could be the girl's "mama" and kick her off the squad. |
| 80 | * AmbiguouslyBi: The show occasionally hinted that she'd had some experiences with women, or was at least open to the idea (though it could have been more of a ReallyGetsAround joke): |
| 81 | ** One episode had her reminiscing about a terrible New Year's date, and her desire to kiss someone at midnight to avoid bad luck. When her date leaves, she's left alone with Rose, and her face shows that she's considering going in for a smooch. Rose stops her: "Don't even ''think'' about it." |
| 82 | ** In "Yokel Hero," Dorothy and Blanche fudge Rose's application for the St. Olaf Woman of the Year award, and start feeling guilty. While traveling to the town, Dorothy gets a minute alone with Blanche and says there's "something we should do." Blanche casually replies "Dorothy, I like you as a friend, but I think I'll pass." |
| 83 | ** She's outraged to learn that Dorothy's lesbian friend has a crush on Rose rather than her, those this could just be yet another indication of her self-centeredness. |
| 84 | ** In "The Housekeeper," Blanche is thrilled with Marguerite, a young woman who's applied for the titular job (and is the only person who's not a terrible choice), and announces "Oh, Marguerite, I could just kiss you!" Marguerite warns her off: "I don't go in for any of that freaky stuff." Rose immediately replies "Neither do Dorothy and I!"--conspicuously leaving out Blanche, who's ''sitting next to her at the time.'' |
| 85 | ** However, in one episode Rose gets a job offer where one of the conditions is that she has to be bilingual. Blanche panics, saying no job is worth having to date women. Dorothy has to point out her misunderstanding: |
| 86 | --->'''Dorothy:''' Blanche, "bilingual" means you can speak more than one language.\ |
| 87 | '''Blanche:''' ''[laughs]'' Oh! Why'd I think it was something sexual? |
| 88 | * ArentYouGoingToRavishMe: She feels insulted whenever a man she goes out with doesn't put out with her. |
| 89 | * AttentionWhore: If it is not about her, she will do her best to make it about her. |
| 90 | * AuntiePennybags: She is pretty generous with her money. The 2nd episode of the series had her offer her home as the site of Dorothy's daughter's wedding reception and even offered to re-mortgage her house if Rose's health insurance wouldn't pay for the physical therapy after she had heart surgery. |
| 91 | * BigEater: Blanche's appetite can be as voracious as her ''other'' appetite. When she gave up sex briefly, she [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything sublimated her desire with Popsicles]]. In another episode, upon returning from a class reunion and seeing that everyone but her had gotten face lifts, she consoles herself with [[CutASliceTakeTheRest all but a slice]] of Sophia's lasagna...at 9:00 in the morning. In one episode, Dorothy walks into the kitchen and sees a distressed Blanche putting nearly everything in the fridge on the table. "Hungry, or suicidal?" |
| 92 | * BigScrewedUpFamily: Blanche's family growing up and the one she had with George seems to be this. Blanche often regales that her father Big Daddy wasn't such a paragon of virtue as he appeared (he supported book burning, carried around a hollowed-out bible with liquor inside, slept with one of Blanche's ex-friends when she was older, and was in a relationship with Blanche's nanny Viola Watkins where it's implied he wasn't faithful, and is also implied to have been a Klan leader or member, or a bigot at least). And Blanche's hands-off parenting has had a negative effect on her children. One of her sons almost burned down their entire town when he was a kid, and her grandson has been badly neglected by his parents. Only now does it all seem to be catching up to Blanche. |
| 93 | -->'''Blanche''': You know, my family had a few dollars, and I loved them dearly, but, when you get right down to it, basically they were trash. |
| 94 | * BrainlessBeauty: She was probably second to Rose in these terms. Although, rather than being outright stupid, it seemed at times more like her cultured SouthernBelle upbringing left her a little naive to the ways of the real world. |
| 95 | * ComfortFood: As part of her BigEater tendencies, she tends to gravitate to food whenever she's stressed or sad (and a man isn't available). It doesn't mesh well with her obsessive tendencies with keeping her weight steady. |
| 96 | * DaddysGirl: Without a doubt, Blanche loved both her parents, but especially "Big Daddy". |
| 97 | * DirtyOldWoman: Quite possibly '''the''' most well-known example in fiction. It's to the point that even Maxim felt obliged to acknowledge her as # 1 of "TV's Best Nymphos." |
| 98 | * DisproportionateRetribution: |
| 99 | ** When Blanche was young she didn't win a beauty pageant and got awarded Miss Congeniality. What did she do? Had a riverboat captain she was dating help her fake her death. She was also pretty quick to suggest that someone should be hanged or horsewhipped for fairly minor things. |
| 100 | ** She proudly claimed to have seduced and slept with her sister Virginia's boyfriend on the eve of Virginia's prom. Virginia's offense? Borrowing Blanche's saddle shoes without permission (and scuffing them to boot). |
| 101 | * DistractedByTheSexy: Blanche occasionally distracts herself by describing an erotic scene. And she could make ''anything'' erotic--including "Humpty Dumpty." "All the king's horses and all the king's MEN?" |
| 102 | * EthicalSlut: |
| 103 | ** She loves sex, but she refuses to be a mistress and after an AIDS scare she always knows her partner's history and takes all the necessary precautions. She also was fiercely loyal to her husband during their marriage and was deeply hurt when it was revealed he fathered a child with another woman, saying the vows were sacred to her. |
| 104 | ** There were two episodes from the first season where she was a victim of sexual harassment. The first one was by a man Dorothy was dating who Blanche was attracted to begin with which nearly caused the end of Dorothy and Blanche's friendship. The second one was by a college professor after Blanche asked for help because she was trying to pass a course so she could get a job at a museum. |
| 105 | ** During one episode, she also notes that she embellishes her conquests a great deal. When asked if that was true, however, she responded with "Maybe it is and maybe it isn't," rendering this ambiguous. |
| 106 | ** [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]] when Blanche is visited by her even more promiscuous niece, Lucy. Blanche realizes that Lucy's promiscuity is a reaction to some severe self-esteem issues that she developed before her SheIsAllGrownUp moment, and when Lucy accuses Blanche of being a hypocrite, Blanche spells out the difference between Blanche's ethical promiscuity versus Lucy's self-destructive behavior. |
| 107 | --->'''Blanche:''' I do enjoy the company of men, always have, but when I'm with a man it's because I like him, not because I want him to like me. |
| 108 | * FemmeFatale: No man over 45 (and some men under, too!) can resist the allure of Blanche Devereaux. |
| 109 | %%* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: The Apathetic. |
| 110 | %%* FourTemperamentEnsemble: The Sanguine. |
| 111 | * FreudianExcuse: In the AllJustADream episode in which George came back from the dead, it was revealed that Blanche only became the EthicalSlut she is since George died, highly implying that the frequent sexual encounters and life she lives is a coping mechanism. [[DependingOnTheWriter Other episodes make it clear that Blanche's promiscuity was in place long before she met George]], though she was fiercely loyal to him just the same. Rue [=McLanahan=] herself is [[WordOfStPaul on the record]] as saying she played Blanche as "oversexed," but also constantly looking for a man who could fill the void George's death left in her life. |
| 112 | * TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: Her relationships with her sisters Virginia and Charmaine fit this trope to a tee. Interestingly, she made up with Virginia in the first season...and ''both'' women started trash talking Charmaine, suggesting it ran in the family. However, all three eventually mended fences and became closer friends. Until Big Daddy's death anyway; Blanche and Virginia have a heated quarrel which leads to Blanche refusing to attend the funeral, and it's never mentioned afterward whether they made up, suggesting their sisterly relationship may be permanently damaged. |
| 113 | * GoodOldWays: She's occasionally mentioned how she misses the Old South, and laments the loss of chivalry. Frequently, Dorothy will usually step in to remind her that things weren't quite as rosy as she remembers. |
| 114 | -->'''Dorothy:''' So how far back would you like to go, Blanche? Would you like to be able to ''vote''? |
| 115 | * HappilyMarried: To George, while he was alive. |
| 116 | * {{Hypocrite}}: Blanche could get very defensive over hers and other woman's right to sleep with as many men as they wanted to, but the minute Rose or Dorothy managed to grab a guy she had her eye on, she would immediately call them sluts. |
| 117 | * IncestSubtext: Less obvious than with Rose's St. Olaf stories, but some of Blanche's tales hint at this. She describes stealing away to make out with a cousin during family gatherings - it's not stated whether they went all the way, but Blanche hints in another episode that she doesn't view relationships between cousins as verboten: |
| 118 | -->'''Rose:''' I haven't been this depressed since I was rejected by Uncle Sam.\ |
| 119 | '''Blanche:''' Well, honey, if he was your uncle, it wasn't meant to be. It wasn't like if he was your cousin, where the relationship might have had a future.\ |
| 120 | '''Dorothy:''' Tell me, Blanche, have any of your relatives ever appeared in ''Film/{{Deliverance}}''? |
| 121 | * InformedAttribute: "Mixed Blessings" implies she sleeps with black men enough to confidently believe that BlackIsBiggerInBed, but we never see her sleep with any black men in the show -- her suitors tend to be white. |
| 122 | * ItsAllAboutMe: By way of {{Flanderization}}, Blanche became more self-absorbed as the series went on. |
| 123 | * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: She's vain, selfish, and often can't see beyond herself, but she's a sweet woman and is generous when it really counts, and she loves Dorothy and Rose like her own sisters (probably even more, based on her rocky relationships with Virginia and Charmaine) and considers Sophia as a mother; when Rose has a heart attack and Rose's daughter, Kirsten, is worrying about how much it'll cost, Blanche offers to ''remortgage her house'' to pay for Rose's care if it's needed. In contrast to her relationship with her real sisters, she's also remarkably close to her brother Clayton. |
| 124 | * KinkySpanking: Blanche loves these, as illustrated in "Till Death Do We Volley": |
| 125 | --> '''Trudy:''' ''[to Dorothy, after beating her at arm wrestling]'' Well, that's that. How does it feel to have your butt whipped?\ |
| 126 | '''Blanche:''' Well, sometimes I find it strangely titillating, but... ''[notices everyone staring at her]'' ...oh... you were talking to ''her''. |
| 127 | * LargeHam: Blanche is prone to overdramatizing ''everything'' in a way that would make Ms. O'Hara herself sigh, "Bitch, please". |
| 128 | * LovableSexManiac: To say she loves sex is an understatement. |
| 129 | * MassiveNumberedSiblings: Blanche is the middle child of five siblings. Older sister Charmaine, younger sister Virginia, and younger brother Clayton all appear during the series, while older brother Tad appears in ''Series/GoldenPalace''. |
| 130 | * MeaningfulName: |
| 131 | ** If Blanche Devereaux, the vain, man-hungry, aging Southern Belle isn't a reference to Blanche [=DuBois=], the vain, man-hungry, aging Southern Belle from ''Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire''... |
| 132 | ** She also has Meaningful Initials. '''B'''lanche '''E'''lisabeth '''D'''evereaux. Think about it. |
| 133 | * NobleBigot: Had a rough time accepting that her brother was gay, and an even rougher time accepting that he was getting married to a man. She was also very resistant to her daughter Rebecca getting artificially inseminated and having a baby without a man in her life. |
| 134 | * NoodleIncident: So many regarding her sex life, it's the stuff of legend. The most often involves her entering the room, LargeHam hyperbole at full throttle, saying she's never been more embarrassed in her life, only to be shut down by (usually) Dorothy. Examples: |
| 135 | ** The 1964 Tokyo Olympics. (Blanche: "So what, 80,000 people had to wait 20 minutes, the torch eventually got there, didn't it?") |
| 136 | ** A time she lost her handcuff keys and had to go with a guy on his entire mail route. |
| 137 | ** The time she spent dating a coach for the Miami Dolphins. ("Oh yeah, that was fun. [[NoodleImplements The locker room, the whirlpool, the adhesive tape.]]") |
| 138 | ** Her and Buzz Aldrin in the Lunar Module. |
| 139 | ** The Greyhound Terminal Incident. Aside from it being brought up when she asked what could go wrong in a public place, they make no attempt to explain it. Although Dorothy was uncomfortable even mentioning it as opposed to her amusement in the other incidents. [[spoiler: Of course, that episode was AllJustADream.]] |
| 140 | ** The time Blanche cost her date his party's nomination (although the pictures turned out nice.) |
| 141 | ** The fact that even the Secret Service has a file on her (might even be linked to the above-mentioned affair with a political candidate) |
| 142 | --> '''Blanche''':''(flirtatiously, to the agent interviewing her)'' "Let me know if you need to know anything else. I've got pictures."\ |
| 143 | '''Secret Service Agent ''': ''(bluntly)'' "So do we."\ |
| 144 | ''(a flustered Blanche quickly leaves)'' |
| 145 | ** When Blanche is in trouble with the IRS and plans to seduce the agent sent to audit her... only for said agent to be a woman. Many fans speculated that even the IRS had gotten wind of Blanche's reputation and deliberately sent a female agent in order to undermine her scheme. |
| 146 | ** That one time Blanche was the other woman in an extramarital affair, which she claims was not her fault because the man's wife was declared dead and then immediately revived by paramedics. |
| 147 | ** A related example happened when she filed a sexual harassment suit against a professor at college course. When an embarrassed Blanche was trying to describe what the professor wanted her to do and still be discreet, the Dean hands her the form and asks "Do Number 5?" She looks and replies, "Actually, 5, 6, and 7b." This shocks the Dean, who said that he had never even ''heard'' of "7b." Blanche, annoyed with his reluctance to help, retorts, "Well, I've known about it for some time. And as far as I'm concerned, you can go do it to yourself." |
| 148 | ** The time Blanche got caught with the Orkin Man. |
| 149 | ** One episode sees Sophia renting a dirty movie; when Dorothy tries to stop it, she inadvertently hits rewind instead. Blanche looks at the (unseen) screen and joyfully cries "I did that once!...it was his birthday." |
| 150 | ** Her experience with the Flying Frenelli Brothers (to this day, she can't pass a jungle gym without blushing). |
| 151 | ** When she's introduced to a local priest, he tells her, "It's nice to have a face to put with the name." When a confused Blanche asks what he means, he regretfully explains, "I'm sorry, I can't discuss anything said to me in the Main/{{Confessional}}." Later in the conversation the priest lets slip that "I've heard you're quite the [[UnusualEuphemism gymnast]]", but declines to elaborate further. |
| 152 | * ObnoxiousInLaws: |
| 153 | ** Is implied to be one to her unseen son-in-law, who she derisively refers to as "the yankee". |
| 154 | ** She apparently did not get along with her former mother-in-law. She rejoiced when she found out the woman was dead. It might have had something to do with Mother Devereaux always referring to her as George's first wife... |
| 155 | --->'''Blanche:''' I just hope the old witch went slowly. |
| 156 | * ParentalNeglect: |
| 157 | ** Blanche was a ''very'' "hands-off" mother, which factors into any episode that features her children and grandchildren. She tries to reverse this tendency with one of her granddaughters, but ends up forcing her into a beauty contest she clearly doesn't want to be in. A very rare example of ParentsAsPeople from the perspective of the "bad" parent. |
| 158 | ** In another rather sad episode, Blanche reveals [[HiddenDepths just how much this has hurt her]]--her children are ''still'' reeling from her lack of attention and want very little to do with their mother, a prime case of TruthInTelevision. The end of the episode has her calling her daughter trying to arrange a visit, only for the younger woman to repeatedly say she's not available. Thankfully, she's able to find a weekend where they can get together. |
| 159 | * PerverseSexualLust: She has states she's had fantasies about both Santa Claus and the Seven Dwarves ("Seven lonely men... all alone, needing a woman... all with Napoleon Complexes, something to prove" and they all had jobs in a diamond mine.) |
| 160 | * PricelessMingVase: Owns a number of allegedly-priceless antiques inherited from various family members. Messing with them is a prominent BerserkButton of hers, and Rose accidentally destroys at least two across the series. |
| 161 | * RacistGrandma: Very much averted, to the point where it seems deliberate (perhaps in an effort to fight stereotypes about the South). In "Mixed Blessings," Dorothy's son Michael plans to get married to an older black woman named Lorraine. Even Dorothy, who's usually the progressive/liberal one, seems somewhat uncomfortable with the idea at first (although she's much more upset about the age difference). But when Lorraine's family shows up and accuses Dorothy's discomfort as being racially based, Blanche speaks up: "Of course not! And I resent the insinuation. Why, in this house, we firmly believe that ''all'' men are created equal." The same episode also reveals that she doesn't discriminate in terms of lovers, either. When Lorraine's mother Greta mentions that she could easily name "ten fine, rich young black men," Blanche asks her to wait so that she can get a pencil. Later, when Sophia asks if [[BlackIsBiggerInBed what they say about black men in bed is true]], it's ''Blanche'' who immediately responds: "Oh yes, definitely." |
| 162 | * ReallyGetsAround: The ''queen'' of this trope. TV Guide even went so far as to name her Number One on their list of "TV Nymphos." |
| 163 | * RetCon: "Hollingsworth" is her last name in the pilot, afterwards said to be her maiden name. Also, her middle name is stated to be Marie in one episode instead of Elizabeth (which made her (married) initials B.E.D.). |
| 164 | * RidiculouslyHighRelationshipStandards: PlayedForLaughs; in the episode "Sophia's Wedding." She says that she might consider getting married again--but only if the man in question had "the body of Mel Gibson, the personality of Johnny Carson, and the financial resources of Donald Trump." Rue [=McClanahan=] herself, who played the character, remarked that she interpreted Blanche as someone who was entirely spoiled by her [[HappilyMarried wonderful marriage]] to her late husband George, and while she had a lot of lovers, her standards for dating someone seriously were based on that marriage and thus nearly impossible to meet. |
| 165 | * SilverVixen: Blanche has no problem finding a man in spite of being a grandmother... although she sometimes makes her grandkids call her "Mom" or "Sis". Her encroaching age and the menopause that came with it was the plot of an episode, but by the end of the episode (with help from a handsome vet) she was back to normal. |
| 166 | -->'''Dorothy''': She could be in a coma. Put a man within five miles of her, she'd roll over and shave her legs. |
| 167 | * SouthernBelle: She's from the DeepSouth and an upper-class rich girl. Another highlighted similarity between Devereaux and Rue [=McClanahan=], as the latter was originally from Oklahoma (though Rue's real life Oklahoma drawl was considerably less pronounced than Blanche's Deep South drawl). |
| 168 | * SpoiledBrat: When she was a child. |
| 169 | * SpoiledSweet: On her good days, she’s beautiful, popular, and charming but also nice, generous, and charitable. |
| 170 | * StageMom: Stage Grandma, actually. When her granddaughter Melissa was visiting, Blanche entered her in a local beauty pageant and this bothered Melissa so much she ran off stage the night of the actual pageant. In a moment of hypocrisy, Blanche seemed disgusted by an actual StageMom whose child was whispering "Help me," wondering what could be worse than having a mom like that. Rose responded "Having a grandmother like that." |
| 171 | * VagueAge: |
| 172 | ** Invoked--Blanche likes to claim she is in her early forties, and even younger if she thinks she can get away with it. Her real age is a secret--when Dorothy and Rose get a copy of her birth certificate, they find that her date of birth ''has been withheld by order of the governor''. However, Blanche goes through menopause in the second season premiere, which means she could be anywhere from her late forties to early fifties at the start of the show. |
| 173 | ** Interestingly enough, because Blanche was so neurotic about her age, that means there were less conflicting ages given for her compared to the others, and therefore her age is the most consistent, albeit by accident. (In a flashback in one episode, her mother said she was 17 during Christmas in 1949, meaning she was born in 1932 and therefore 53 at the beginning, lining up pretty well with the menopause episode. Since she almost never gave other mentions of her age, there's very little to contradict this.) This is further backed up by ''Golden Palace'', where Blanche would be 61 by this reckoning, having Blanche's older brother directly confirm that Blanche is in her early sixties. |
| 174 | ** Despite the above, certain instances imply she may be even older than they think. In one episode, Blanche recalls one of her father's escapades that took place after her younger brother was born, around the time prohibition was first passed... which was in 1920. She quickly corrected herself when someone brought that up. In another episode, Dorothy hints Blanche was in high school at the time of the Hindenburg disaster, which was in 1937 (and would jibe with the 1920 birth date). |
| 175 | * VerbalTic: She tends to refer to animals she doesn't want in the house (often ones brought in by Rose) as "filthy beasts". |
| 176 | * VirginInAWhiteDress: She wore red at her wedding, because "''Me'' wearing white? Even ''I'' couldn't keep a straight face!". She also wears red to the funeral of Dorothy's brother Phil, because she thinks it's a dress Phil would have liked (to wear). |
| 177 | [[/folder]] |
| 178 | |
| 179 | [[folder:Rose Nylund]] |
| 180 | !! Rose Nylund, née Lindstrum (Creator/BettyWhite) |
| 181 | [[quoteright:301:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ggrose.png]] |
| 182 | %% |
| 183 | A simple farmgirl from the fictional St. Olaf, Minnesota, Rose moved to Miami to start over after the death of her husband. She has a tendency to be slow on the uptake and has a more cheery disposition than the others, but that doesn't keep her from getting a good snark in. |
| 184 | |
| 185 | ---- |
| 186 | * BerserkButton: Losing during sporting competitions, messing with her beloved teddy bear, and mocking her husband. |
| 187 | * BewareTheNiceOnes: She can be a pretty big bitch if she wants. On the flip side, she can also be a force to be reckoned with if people are trying to exploit her or the girls. Tellingly, Dorothy, who once made a police officer break down in tears and "uprooted a might sequoia" when Rose lost her keys, is absolutely terrified of ''ever'' pissing Rose off that badly. |
| 188 | * BrutalHonesty: Rose sometimes does this unintentionally, as her ditziness can prevent her from realizing when a situation requires tact. One time it was helped along by ExhaustionInducedIdiocy. |
| 189 | -->'''Rose:''' Oh, Blanche. You're not a bad person. You're just horny all the time. |
| 190 | * BunnyEarsLawyer: She's a naive, childish CountryMouse... who also happens to be a very effective grief counselor and mediator. One of her best moments in the series is her settling a decades long feud between Sophia and her daughter-in-law as both of them are grieving the loss of the former's son Phil, all in the span of five minutes. Even Dorothy couldn't pull that off. Rose is also shown to be a rather competent consumer advocate, holding onto the job for several years and advancing to the point she got her own assistant. She can also play the piano. |
| 191 | * BuxomBeautyStandard: Her ample bustline has been mentioned a couple of times, one time to psych Blanche out by pointing out that her shirt (a copy of Blanche's) only looks different on a busty woman. |
| 192 | * {{Catchphrase}}: "Back in St. Olaf..." |
| 193 | * {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: She comes from St. Olaf, a town that Dorothy describes as "the cradle of idiocy." And even then it's outright stated by Blanche that she suspects Rose to be one of the more normal ones from there after some St. Olafians come to Miami. |
| 194 | -->'''Blanche''': You know I never thought I'd say this but I think Rose got the brains in that family. |
| 195 | * CompanionCube: She's very attached to a stuffed bear she calls Fernando. In one episode, Blanche accidentally gave it away to a young girl who then proceeded to hold it for ransom. When Rose found out, she dropped her usual demeanor and order Blanche to get Fernando back. |
| 196 | -->'''Rose''': Blanche just cut the crap and get back the damn bear! |
| 197 | * CompetitionFreak: Regardless of event, once Rose enters it, she's ''obsessed'' with winning. For example, in "A Midwinter Night's Dream," she reveals that she likes to enter competitions for no reason until she wins the prize offered in it (in this case, a honeymoon trip to Paris, despite Rose not being a newlywed), not for the prize itself, but for the thrill of winning. Then she starts describing in detail about how she beats the odds as if she was giving a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, which alarms Dorothy enough to make her stop Rose from further description. |
| 198 | -->'''Rose''': I like to win, all right? |
| 199 | * CompressedVice: Rose is revealed in one episode to have been addicted to pain killers for 15 years. Over the course of the episode, she goes through rehab and flat-out states that it will be a lifelong problem for her... only for it never to be mentioned again. [[note]]This is actually a case of TruthInTelevision: former addicts will occasionally get pangs of craving the thing they were once addicted to since the brain chemistry's dopamine receptors are altered to associate the substance with pleasure. Presumably, Rose still received cravings for her former medication, but was just strong enough for it to never become an issue again.[[/note]] |
| 200 | * CordonBleughChef: Many of her recipes from St. Olaf are... interesting, to say the least. Special mention goes to the bite-sized desserts that are apparently the most delicious thing you'll ever eat, if you can avoid vomiting from the smell. |
| 201 | * CountryMouse: She's from rural Minnesota and was a FarmGirl growing up. It's so out of the way that to even get there, one has to fly to Minneapolis, take a train to St. Gustav (the "hipper" sister city of St. Olaf), and then take a ''toboggan'' from there. |
| 202 | * DarkSecret: Rose has one about her late husband Charlie...[[spoiler: that he wasn't half the businessman that she played him up to be to her children.]] |
| 203 | * DCupDistress: A few episodes have pointed out that Rose gets negative male attention to his area (the dentist episode was an example) and that she merely was teased for her growing bustline as a girl, when she tells Blanche that she never needed a large bust to attract men the way she always had. |
| 204 | * TheDitz: She's not very bright. |
| 205 | * DumbBlonde: Although many characters comment on how her hair is obviously dyed, she insists it's natural. Though ultimately the characters note that for as ditzy and moronic as Rose can act, she's ultimately a woman of average intellect who hasn't had a problem taking care of herself or holding onto a steady job. |
| 206 | * DumbIsGood: Is consistently the kindest and most innocent of the four. Sophia said it best [[note]] For context, Sophia walks in on Rose making egg-white omelets, who decided not to waste the yolks by putting them in a bag to give to the less fortunate.[[/note]]: |
| 207 | -->"Your heart's in the right place, Rose, but I don't know where the hell your brain is." |
| 208 | * EthicalSlut: She admitted that she had 56 boyfriends when she was a teenager, and she would've had more if she was allowed to date before she became a senior, and she did not go all the way with any of them. She was also very upset upon discovering that she had been the mistress of her recently deceased boyfriend. |
| 209 | * FloralThemeNaming: Meet her two sisters, Holly and Lily. |
| 210 | %%* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: The Optimist. |
| 211 | %%* FourTemperamentEnsemble: The Phlegmatic. |
| 212 | * FriendToAllLivingThings: It goes with the territory when one spends their entire upbringing on a farm. |
| 213 | * GeniusDitz: She is very knowledgeable in psychology. She can also play a mean piano. And her quick thinking saves the day more than once. |
| 214 | * GenkiGirl: She's incessantly perky and bubbly. It's makes the [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness times that she's neither all the more serious.]] |
| 215 | * HappilyAdopted: She does not even mention she was adopted until more than halfway into the series. Rose provides a rare glimpse at adoption from the viewpoint of an older character. |
| 216 | * HappilyMarried: With Charlie, before his untimely demise. |
| 217 | * HiddenDepths: She's quite the hand around the house, can play a mean piano, and is capable of doing minor electrical and plumbing work (probably a leftover from her farmgirl days). She also has a surprising knowledge of psychology and gets all the journals. |
| 218 | %%* TheIngenue |
| 219 | * ItsAllAboutMe: A peculiar example, in that no matter what anyone is talking about, who they're talking to or what the mood is, Rose will always bring the conversation to a halt by, without any prompting or encouraging, segueing into a tale of St. Olaf involving herself, her family, an animal or some other St. Olafians. |
| 220 | * JerkassBall: Any episode involving a competition--such as "The Competition" or a later episode where she and Dorothy coach a pee-wee football team--reveals that she has a surprisingly hypercompetitive, mean-spirited and even conniving streak when it comes to athletics or even such things as winning a prize via raffles or an award. |
| 221 | * LiteralMinded: Oftentimes she takes a turn of phrase literally. Also she sometimes DoesNotUnderstandSarcasm. |
| 222 | * MinnesotaNice: Consistently the friendliest of the four girls, which comes from her being raised in a town that's bizarre but overall wholesome. |
| 223 | * NiceGirl: She's not without her snarky or aggressive moments, but Rose is far and away the kindest of the four girls. |
| 224 | * NoodleIncident: Rose is chock full of these pertaining to her hometown St. Olaf. |
| 225 | * NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: St. Olaf is a small Upper Midwestern farming community with a substantial population descended from Scandinavian immigrants. By rights she should sound like she just stepped off the set of ''Film/{{Fargo}}'', as many of her fellow St. Olafians do as we encounter them throughout the series, but she herself sounds perfectly Middle American. |
| 226 | %%* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: When ''Rose'' has a snarky remark... |
| 227 | * PerverseSexualLust: Had a very hot and heavy affair with a Goofy performer from Disneyworld...that sizzled out when he took off the costume. She also gets aroused at weddings, to the point where she was afraid to attend Giuseppe Mangiacavallo's daughter's wedding while Miles was out of town, for fear she might end up in bed with the ''caterer'' (again). |
| 228 | -->'''Rose:''' ''[at the wedding]'' Sophia, am I the only one who feels like ripping her clothes off and doing the Hokey-Pokey?\ |
| 229 | '''Sophia:''' [[SarcasmMode No, Rose, I think they're just waiting for someone to get it *started*.]] |
| 230 | * PhraseCatcher: "Shut up, Rose!" |
| 231 | * ThePollyanna: Tends to be the most optimistic of the girls, which often annoys the rest of them. ([[{{Irony}} Ironically]], this also apparently made Betty White annoying to Bea Arthur in real life.) |
| 232 | * PostRobberyTrauma: Rose especially deals with this after the girls' house is robbed. |
| 233 | * PrecisionFStrike: Whenever she swears, particularly because she's so prim and proper you don't see it coming. Ironically, this is invoked to the point that she probably swears more than anyone else on the show. One episode's main plot was a feud between Dorothy and Blanche over a museum position. Rose walks into the room at the tail end of a heated argument between the two, and when she tries to tell her roommates that a dog she has been looking after seems to be ill, they both brusquely dismiss her and walk out. Rose, pretending the dog is talking to her says: "Don't explain, Rose. I used to live with a couple of bitches myself!" |
| 234 | ** Ironically, the one time Rose was encouraged to purge her angry feelings regarding Miles' deception and say anything she felt like, all she could say, after working herself up very dramatically, was: "........HECK!" |
| 235 | * SarcasmBlind: At times, like when Sophia was telling the girls her friend died. |
| 236 | -->'''Rose:''' How did she die?\ |
| 237 | '''Sophia:''' [[SarcasmMode She was fighting an oil rig fire in the Gulf of Mexico.]] She was 88!\ |
| 238 | '''Rose:''' Well, at least she was able to work right up until the end. |
| 239 | * ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: In "Mother's Day", her flashback has her meeting and then helping an elderly woman at a bus station who escaped from a nursing home to go visit her daughter[[spoiler:'s grave.]] Whereas an officer tries to get her to come back with him and what Rose was doing essentially was kidnapping as well as obstruction, she posed as the woman's daughter to aid in the woman to go see her and she got her wish. |
| 240 | * ShaggyFrogStory: Whenever she told a St. Olaf story, it would end up as one; Rose herself seemed at a loss to explain what the point of any of them were. |
| 241 | * SpiritedCompetitor: Any kind of competition is SeriousBusiness to her and serves as her BerserkButton. She mentions that at one point in her youth it was so bad she had to change schools because of a "Field hockey incident." |
| 242 | * {{Womanchild}}: She plays shadow puppets in her room, still likes to play hide-and-seek, and some episodes show her having a strong attachment to teddy bears. In one episode, she and the girl scout troop she leads (as the den mother) write letters to then-Soviet Union leader Mikhail Gorbachev, and her writing is so childish that they assume that Rose is one of the scouts! Of course, the line about the threat of nuclear war "scaring the other girls in her cadet troupe" didn't help... |
| 243 | * YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Rose appears to be one of the smarter people to hail from St. Olaf. In fact, Sophia herself has admitted that Rose is genuinely smarter than most people think. |
| 244 | -->'''Sophia''': Rose, just remember, you're smarter than people say you are. You've got good sense and you know what you're doing. |
| 245 | [[/folder]] |
| 246 | |
| 247 | [[folder:Sophia Petrillo]] |
| 248 | !! Sophia Petrillo (Creator/EstelleGetty) |
| 249 | [[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ggsophia.png]] |
| 250 | %% |
| 251 | Dorothy's acerbic mother, who immigrated from Sicily to Brooklyn as a young woman. She suffered a debilitating stroke a few years before the series started. Dorothy (happily) placed her in the Shady Pines nursing home for a few years, but it burned down in the first episode, leading to Sophia moving in with the girls. |
| 252 | |
| 253 | ---- |
| 254 | * AffectionateNickname: "Pussycat" for Dorothy. She claims it's because she "loves pussycats and loves Dorothy" and because Dorothy was an excellent mouser at their Brooklyn apartment. |
| 255 | * AilmentInducedCruelty: {{Downplayed|Trope}} for comedy. Sophia's a cantankerous (albeit often hilarious) old lady who says exactly what she thinks at all times. It's explained more than once that she had a stroke sometime prior to the series beginning, and that the stroke effectively destroyed her mental filter, so she can't help voicing whatever opinion pops into her head. |
| 256 | * AlterKocker: Sophia was supposed to be a Sicilian Catholic. Estelle Getty, who was Jewish in RealLife, played her with many stereotypical Jewish New York traits. (In fact, Getty once went to the producers and asked them if they could just make Sophia Jewish, which would've made the character easier for her to play.) Her husband Salvatore was played the same way by Sid Melton, in a very BorschtBelt comedian style. This actually became a CastingGag as the series went on -- Sophia's Italian relations were mostly played by Jewish actors. |
| 257 | * ArrangedMarriage: Had ''two'' (or three; sometimes she speaks of her marriage to Dorothy's father as one). |
| 258 | * AscendedExtra: Was conceived as a recurring DropInCharacter, but audiences responded very positively to her, causing her to be added to the main cast. |
| 259 | * BeenThereShapedHistory: Take them with a grain of salt, since Sophia's "Picture it" stories vary widely in credibility. She claims to have had romantic trysts with Pablo Picasso, Sigmund Freud, and Winston Churchill, opened a pizzeria with the woman who would later become Mama Celeste, and she and Sal had a flat tire at the same building as the St. Valentine's Day Massacre (although in a later episode she claimed [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial "I was at the movies that day. All day."]]) |
| 260 | * BerserkButton: |
| 261 | ** In "Sisters", the one insult that really got to Sophia is when her sister Angela says "may your marinara sauce never cling to your pasta!" Even Dorothy, Rose, and Blanche were shocked by this. |
| 262 | ** Sophia's cooking is generally this for her. In another episode when Rose comments that something smells delicious and asks if it's Chef Boyardee, Sophia grabs a kitchen knife and shouts, "Stick it in my heart, it'll hurt less!" |
| 263 | * BookEnds: This series begins with Sophia leaving Shady Pines to move in with the girls. The last we hear of Sophia (in SpinOff ''Series/EmptyNest''), she has left the girls to move back into Shady Pines. |
| 264 | * BrutalHonesty: An absolute master of this trope. Sophia never bothers to censor her thoughts even slightly, but her assessments of the characters of others tend to be accurate more often than not. |
| 265 | * ButtMonkey: The whole world is her Butt Monkey. |
| 266 | * CatchPhrase: |
| 267 | ** She always begins her stories with "Picture it: [place], [year]". It apparently runs in the family, since Sophia's siblings, Angelo and Angela, use the same phrase to begin ''their'' stories. Their mother also said it in a flashback. |
| 268 | ** [[OhCrap "Aw, yeeah..."]] whenever someone (usually Dorothy) points out something Sophia conveniently forgot, which would have been REALLY helpful for her to have remembered at the time. |
| 269 | * CharacterizationMarchesOn: Her acerbic nature is attributed to her stroke (said to have altered the part of her brain that helps her censor her thoughts), but later on, flashbacks and personal anecdotes establish that she has always been a spitfire, even before her stroke. |
| 270 | * {{Cloudcuckoolander}}: Occasionally, by way of old-lady nuttiness. When Dorothy questions a story about pepperoni swimming upstream, her response is "I know! Pepperoni is a land meat, but there it was." |
| 271 | * CoolOldLady: Sophia definitely keeps up with the times, even owning a UsefulNotes/GameBoy. |
| 272 | * DeadpanSnarker: This is who Dorothy gets it from. |
| 273 | * DirtyOldWoman: Downplayed. It's obviously not to the degree of Blanche, but it's still implied due to her love of points. She was also once disappointed that ''Seven Brides for Seven Brothers'' was a ''musical.'' |
| 274 | * FieryRedhead: She is a hot-tempered woman who was revealed as a redhead in the flashbacks. |
| 275 | %%* FourPhilosophyEnsemble: The Cynic. |
| 276 | %%* FourTemperamentEnsemble: The Choleric. |
| 277 | * GoodIsNotNice: While she is ultimately seen as being just as virtuous as her friends are, she still mostly comes off as pretty abrasive and cynical to the average person. Later seasons has her lampshade how the neighborhood children call her a mean old lady. |
| 278 | * HappilyMarried: To Salvadore, while he was alive. |
| 279 | * IWasQuiteALooker: Sophia describes herself as having been "a voluptuous blonde with a butt like granite". And then there's this exchange from "Whose Face Is This Anyway?": |
| 280 | -->'''Sophia:''' When I was a teenager, I was gorgeous. Eyes as deep and black as ripe olives, skin as smooth and creamy as fresh butter, hair flaming red like a rich marinara sauce.\ |
| 281 | '''Dorothy:''' Ma, that's not you, that's your lasagna recipe.\ |
| 282 | '''Sophia:''' Ah, shut up. |
| 283 | * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: |
| 284 | ** Sophia has an insult for everyone she meets, but she is also loving to her roommates--she explicitly states on several occasions that she loves Blanche and Rose as if they were own children--cooks for them whenever they ask, takes care of them and cleans up after them, as well as works for charity. Specifically, one episode shows her volunteering in a hospital, bringing cheer to the patients. |
| 285 | ** That whole episode was an example of this. The episode was supposed to parallel Rose, Dorothy, and Blanche being lazy (they vow to do something constructive, but spend the whole day in their pajamas eating pizza) and worrying that Sophia might be leading an empty life. This was played for HypocriticalHumor, because while they're worried about Sophia and lounging around, Sophia: 1) Helps a friend who had been cheated at a supermarket get a refund, 2) leads a bunch of her friends who had formed a band through a fundraising concert (which was done every week,) and 3) volunteers at a hospital and cheers up an ill little boy with some unspecified illness (though the mention of the botched blood transfusion and her telling him to hang in there until a cure is found heavily implies that it's AIDS). |
| 286 | ** As Dorothy explains to Blanche's grandson David after Sophia slaps him, Sophia never slaps anyone she doesn't actually like. |
| 287 | * KickTheDog: Unfortunately, there were a few times where Sophia's crusty attitude shifted into full fledged meanness without any comedic elements towards it, and her actions have been legitimately hurtful towards others. She ostracized her son Phil and had a nasty relationship with his wife because of Phil's crossdressing, which not only hurt Phil but alienated Sophia from their kids and [[spoiler: it's only after Phil dies that Sophia is finally able to realize Phil's desire to wear feminine clothes did not make him less of a good person.]] There were also the times when she set up Gloria and Stan regardless of Dorothy's feelings, and the time she almost destroyed Rose's relationship with Miles by mocking Rose's dead husband. It should be mentioned however, that Sophia wasn't really as much ashamed of Phil wearing women's clothes as she was ashamed of herself for making him wear Dorothy's hand-me-downs (money was VERY tight), which started the whole thing. She blamed herself for the whole thing and thought she screwed him up. |
| 288 | * MamaBear: Age be damned, you'd better not threaten her kids, biological or otherwise. |
| 289 | * MayDecemberRomance: She's been able to court guys who're much younger than she is, sometimes only by a few years, sometimes by a few decades. |
| 290 | * MeaningfulName: "Sophia" means "wisdom" and she's a font of it...most of the time. |
| 291 | * MiniatureSeniorCitizens: Sophia is the shortest among the main cast, especially compared to her gigantic daughter Dorothy.[[note]]Creator/EstelleGetty was sensitive about her height and never confirmed it publicly, but most sources list it as 4'10½". Creator/BeaArthur's height is variously given as anywhere between 5'9" and 5'10", about a foot taller.[[/note]] Sophia is so small that she's barely taller than Rose's dwarf boyfriend, Dr. Jonathan Newman, in "A Little Romance".[[note]]Brent Collins was 4'6".[[/note]] |
| 292 | * MyBelovedSmother: A few episodes involved Dorothy growing frustrated with how much Sophia would comment on and interfere with her life, specifically trying to set her up with various men of dubious quality when Dorothy made it abundantly clear she was very happy and content with her life as it was. |
| 293 | * MyGodWhatHaveIDone: In ''The Monkey Show'', after Dorothy calls out Sophia's blatant insensitivity and walks out on her, Sophia seems pissed, but then heads to her brother Angelo for advice on what to do because she feels horrible. Sophia tried to set up Dorothy's sister with Stan, with no regards to Dorothy's feelings after all the years Sophia complained about her marriage to Stan. Angelo says this isn't like when the girls were kids and that Stan's not a toy. Even though she meant well for Gloria, she did wrong by Dorothy and had to make it right. |
| 294 | * NeverMessWithGranny: All of the women were grandmothers, but Sophia was the only ''great''-grandmother on the show. But her advanced age never got in the way of her standing up for herself. If someone crossed her in any way, she would always find a way to get them back--and [[MamaBear God help you]] if you messed with anyone she considered family. |
| 295 | * NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Sophia is established as a character born and raised in Sicily, who moved to America in early adulthood, and should therefore have a thick accent. Not only does she speak perfect English, but even her ''Italian'' has an American accent! |
| 296 | * ObnoxiousInLaws: |
| 297 | ** Is one to her son Phil's wife Angela--even after his death, she struggles to treat her with even a modicum of respect. [[spoiler: She gets better by the end of the episode when she stops blaming herself ''and'' Angela for Phil's crossdressing.]] |
| 298 | ** It's also implied that she was no less obnoxious to Dorothy's ex-husband Stan before the divorce than she is after. Yet again, it was revealed in a therapy session with Stan she had trouble coming to respect him since he forced her daughter into a shotgun wedding at 17, cheated on her repeatedly, and then dumped her after 38 years for a blond stewardess. |
| 299 | * OddNameOut: With her siblings. Angel''a'', Angel''o''... and Sophia. |
| 300 | * OnlyOneName: A variation--we know her married names, but her maiden name is a mystery, especially considering those of the other three were revealed. Sometimes it's listed as either Angelo or Grisanti, but both are rooted in {{Fanon}}. |
| 301 | * ParentalFavoritism: Played with. Oftentimes it seems that she favored her [[YoungestChildWins youngest daughter, Gloria]], over both Dorothy and Phil. Gloria, however, was just as convinced that Dorothy was the favorite. Phil was doubtlessly the unfavorite though. Sophia also did this more clearly with her children's spouses. The only one she wasn't an [[ObnoxiousInLaws Obnoxious In-Law]] to was Gloria's very rich husband. |
| 302 | * ParentalSubstitute: Sophia was essentially this to Stan, much to Dorothy's annoyance. She also adopted Rose and Blanche as her surrogate daughters in all but name, and the two consider her as a mother to them. |
| 303 | * ScrewPolitenessImASenior: Sophia isn't afraid to tell it like is, has a snarky response to everything, and can come up with insulting nicknames at the drop of a hat--and that's what she does to the people she ''likes.'' Whenever anyone (usually Dorothy) calls her out for her attitude, she name-drops this trope in some way or another: "So what, I'm old, I'm supposed to be colorful!" |
| 304 | * SmallParentHugeChild: Dorothy is at least a foot taller than her mother Sophia. While this can be partly attributed to Sophia being a {{Miniature Senior Citizen|s}}, flashback episodes show that Dorothy has always been considerably taller than Sophia. Dorothy's younger sister Gloria is nearly as tall as Dorothy, and their brother Phil is noted to be over six feet, so they qualify too. Even stranger is that Sophia's late husband was also very short, raising more questions about how the two of them consistently produced such tall children. One possible explanation comes in a flashback where Bea Arthur plays Sophia's own mother, so it's possible that the height simply skipped a generation. |
| 305 | * SupremeChef: The best cook of the four women, to the point that her lasagna is FamedInStory. She is also the TeamChef, though largely by dint of being the most competent one (Dorothy is a decent if underwhelming cook, Blanche does little if any cooking, and Rose has... [[CordonBleughChef interesting ideas about food]]). |
| 306 | * TeamMom: Or Team Grandmother if there ever was one. |
| 307 | * UnreliableNarrator: An in-universe example. The show is notorious for being inconsistent in its backstory, but Sophia's "Picture it..." stories tend to range from "probably embellished anecdote" to "probably-senile nonsense". Even her ''appearance'' tends to change from story to story: she usually describes herself as either redheaded or blonde, and occasionally references being much taller and having a more olive complexion. |
| 308 | -->'''Rose:''' Wow, Sophia, that was some story!\ |
| 309 | '''Sophia:''' Yeah-funny, touching and with a surprise twist ending. I wonder if was true... Ah, damn that stroke. |
| 310 | * WhatTheHellHero: Gets this a few times from Dorothy, but especially so when she almost destroyed Rose and Miles' relationship for the sake of twenty dollars and a bad joke. |
| 311 | * {{Womanchild}}: Not in the same way as Rose, but several episodes feature Sophia going through something of a second adolescence and behaving quite a bit like a mischievous teenager: hanging out all night with rowdy crowds, dating bad boys, playing practical jokes... a couple of episodes even have plots more typical of teenage characters in fiction regarding her taking BurgerFool jobs for extra spending money and even getting her driver's license (renewed after it long expired in her case.) Dorothy lampshades it quite a few times, commenting on how strange a feeling it is to have the tables be turned and to essentially be in the role of parenting her own mother. |
| 312 | [[/folder]] |
| 313 | |
| 314 | !Supporting Characters |
| 315 | [[folder:Stanley Zbornak]] |
| 316 | !!Stanley Zbornak (Herb Edelman) |
| 317 | |
| 318 | Dorothy's ex-husband. He originally left Dorothy two years before the show began to marry a young flight attendant named Chrissy and live on Hawaii. However, he eventually moves to Miami and proceeds to be a lingering frustration in the lives of all the girls. |
| 319 | ---- |
| 320 | * AmicableExes: How he wants to be with Dorothy. She, being the wronged party, is less willing to go for that if their kids aren't involved. By the finale, however, she accepts him as someone who will always be with her in some way, and they end the series as friends. Stan, to his credit, is more than happy with that arrangement. |
| 321 | -->'''Dorothy:''' We weren't happy when we were married. We weren't happy when we were going to remarry. Maybe our relationship works best when we're just plain divorced. |
| 322 | * TheAtoner: A big part of his characterization during the show is his repeated attempts to apologize to Dorothy for all the pain he put her through, only for Dorothy to repeatedly refuse. To be fair to Dorothy though, Stan would normally do or say SOMETHING off-putting that would remind Dorothy of why they didn't work out in the first place. |
| 323 | * ButtMonkey: He's treated this way by all of the girls, even Rose. His own ''mother'' didn't want him around. |
| 324 | * CasanovaWannabe: According to Dorothy, plus his obnoxious personality doesn't help. |
| 325 | * CatchPhrase: "Hi/Hey, it's me, Stan." |
| 326 | * CharacterizationMarchesOn: In his first appearance, Stan was a much more snide character who made repeated shots at Dorothy with no provocation. His second appearance made him more of a sympathetic ButtMonkey, albeit one who could still make a good comeback from time to time. |
| 327 | * DarkHorseSibling: He has always been described as a "yutz" by his ex-wife Dorothy's family and even his own mother. The Season 3 episode "Brotherly Love" introduced Stan's younger brother Ted, a successful doctor. The Season 6 episode "If at Last You Do Succeed" has Stan becoming rich after inventing a device to open baked potatoes without burning your fingers, so presumably he has become more successful than Ted. |
| 328 | * DirtyOldMan: Stan was more middle-aged than old, but he definitely had the "dirty" part down pat. He had a thing for younger women (Chrissy, the woman he left Dorothy for, was in her early twenties) and made lewd comments on a regular basis ("Blanche, you look great in that blouse. Are those new?--[[VerbalBackspace I mean]], is that new?"). |
| 329 | * DodgyToupee: He has a few. He gave up on them in later seasons. |
| 330 | * TheFriendNobodyLikes: He consistently shows up at the house. Dorothy and Sophia greatly dislike him (at least initially, as the divorce is still fresh). Blanche tolerates him at best. Rose, while still the nicest to him, is only cordial to him most of the time. Regardless, they still indulge him. |
| 331 | * GetRichQuickScheme: He has many of them pitched to the girls, which are always shot down. Though one of them, the Zbornee made him financially successful. |
| 332 | * GoodParents: Despite his unfaithfulness to Dorothy, he was a good provider (when he was able to be) and father to Kate and Michael. Dorothy herself admits it as much, and she tries to involve him in their adult childrens' lives as much as she can when both of them are around (although not without a lot of lip). |
| 333 | -->'''Dorothy:''' "One sperm with a good sense of direction, and I'm paying for it for the rest of my life." |
| 334 | * GrewASpine: After many times trying to apologize to Dorothy or amend his ways only to be turned down or insulted, he eventually withdraws from her life. Much to Dorothy's own surprise, she's affected by his absence. |
| 335 | * HiddenDepths: Stan was definitely a yutz (something even his own mother acknowledged), but he did occasionally show some positive qualities. By Dorothy's admission, he was an exceptionally good novelty salesman and supported their growing family marketing cheap toys and tricks. He also had a minor knack for invention, and one of his novelties--the "Zbornee," a baked-potato opener--eventually made him millions. |
| 336 | * IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: In the finale, he hijacks the limousine Dorothy is taking to her wedding to Lucas, and after a gentle discussion with her, he accepts that she's moved on and takes her to the wedding "in style." When the priest later asks if there are any objections to the marriage, he stays silent. |
| 337 | * InelegantBlubbering: At times, when his second wife left ''him'' for a younger man and when his scheme to get money for a foul ball injuring Sophia was falling through. |
| 338 | * {{Irony}}: Discussed by Dorothy and Sophia via a flashback when the former is going to marry him because she was pregnant: |
| 339 | -->'''Teenaged!Dorothy:''' I can't believe I did this, and I hate his name. For the rest of my life, I'm going to be known as Dorothy Zbornak. |
| 340 | -->'''Middle-aged!Sophia:''' Hey, look on the bright side, pussycat: at least he's got [[HilariousInHindsight a full head of hair!]] |
| 341 | * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: As much of a cad and insensitive husband he was to Dorothy, he's certainly not completely heartless, giving back his expensive car so Dorothy could pay back money to the IRS to avoid being audited (and while he's at it, buys back the expensive ring she'd received as a gift from him that she'd pawned to make the necessary money because he acknowledged that she shouldn't have to suffer for his financial mistakes), and making sure the doctors gave Sophia above-average care during her bout with pneumonia. Stan was effective when it counted and it was during those episodes that reminded Dorothy of the man she allowed herself to fall in love with. |
| 342 | * KavorkaMan: He's middle-aged, bald, and more than a little sleazy, but he doesn't seem to have any problem attracting young co-eds. Although, if Dorothy is to be believed, him being more than a little generous with his credit cards may have something to do with that... |
| 343 | * LousyLoversAreLosers: According to Dorothy he's absolutely terrible in bed. When the girls talk about [[TheirFirstTime their first times having sex]], Dorothy says that Stan [[SpeedSex only lasted thirty seconds]] and she wasn't even sure they'd actually done anything until nine months later when she gave birth. |
| 344 | * ObnoxiousInLaws: Sophia is this to him, even after the divorce, but his own mother plays with this in regards to Dorothy. She treats Dorothy badly, but actually really ''likes'' her, instead thinks Stan is a yutz, and treats Dorothy badly to keep ''Stan'' away. |
| 345 | * PapaWolf: For all his faults, he was a legitimately good father and just as protective of their kids as Dorothy is. |
| 346 | %%* ReallyGetsAround: Much like Blanche. |
| 347 | * {{Recurrer}}: The only character, other than the girls, to appear in all seven seasons. He also always appears more than once per season. |
| 348 | * SelfMadeMan: Later in the show, he becomes incredibly wealthy after inventing the "Zbornee," a kitchen gadget that lets people open baked potatoes without burning themselves. |
| 349 | * SlapSlapKiss: His relationship with Dorothy eventually became this, [[spoiler: until she fell for and married Lucas.]] |
| 350 | * SpeedSex: According to Dorothy, the night she got pregnant that resulted in her ShotgunWedding took ''three seconds.'' |
| 351 | * TallDarkAndHandsome: At 6'4", he was definitely this. |
| 352 | * TheThingThatWouldNotLeave: Specifically in one episode when he stays with them to recuperate after heart surgery (and later faked a relapse to stay longer,) but in general, he would frequently pop over, invite himself to stay for dinner, and not leave until all four ladies shouted "Get out!" in chorus. |
| 353 | [[/folder]] |
| 354 | |
| 355 | [[folder:George Devereaux]] |
| 356 | !!George Devereaux (Creator/GeorgeGrizzard) |
| 357 | Blanche's late husband. |
| 358 | ---- |
| 359 | * HappilyMarried: To Blanche, while he was alive. |
| 360 | * PosthumousCharacter: He's already been dead for years prior to the series' start. |
| 361 | * UncannyFamilyResemblance: Creator/GeorgeGrizzard played both George and his younger brother Jamie. |
| 362 | [[/folder]] |
| 363 | |
| 364 | [[folder:Charlie Nylund]] |
| 365 | !!Charlie Nylund |
| 366 | Rose's late husband. |
| 367 | ---- |
| 368 | * BiggerIsBetterInBed: According to Rose, Charlie is so well-endowed that "a bull would have been jealous" upon seeing him naked. |
| 369 | * TheGhost: Unlike Blanche's and Sophia's late husbands, Charlie has never been shown. His best-known elements, based on Rose's accounts, are his [[BiggerIsBetterInBed well-endowed sex drive and, uh, "tool"]], as well as his imperfect history of employment and the resultant financial difficulties. |
| 370 | * HappilyMarried: To Rose, until his [[OutWithABang death]]. |
| 371 | * MoneyDumb: According to Rose, could not balance a checkbook to save his life. |
| 372 | * IdenticalStranger: One showed up on ''Series/GoldenPalace''. |
| 373 | * OutWithABang: The heart attack that killed him started while having sex with Rose; he died while waiting for the paramedics. |
| 374 | * PosthumousCharacter: He's already been dead for years prior to the series' start. |
| 375 | [[/folder]] |
| 376 | |
| 377 | [[folder:Miles Webber]] |
| 378 | !!Miles Webber (Creator/HaroldGould) |
| 379 | Rose's boyfriend in the latter seasons. |
| 380 | ---- |
| 381 | * CuttingCorners: Used as a plot device in "Ro$e Love$ Mile$", regarding his cost-cutting obsessions. |
| 382 | * TheScrooge: Miles was frugal to begin with, but he went overboard after a doctor told him he could live to be a hundred; he had only budgeted to live to eighty. |
| 383 | * WitnessProtection: He turns out to have been under such a program, which forces him to flee, if briefly. |
| 384 | [[/folder]] |
| 385 | |
| 386 | [[folder:Salvadore Petrillo]] |
| 387 | !! Salvadore Petrillo (Creator/SidMelton) |
| 388 | Sophia's deceased husband. |
| 389 | ---- |
| 390 | * TheGamblingAddict: Stated to be one, as Sophia tells Dorothy. |
| 391 | -->'''Sophia''': He was a gambler right up to his dying days. In fact, his last words were: "Ten bucks say I won't need this oxygen tank." |
| 392 | * HappilyMarried: To Sophia, while he was alive. |
| 393 | * PosthumousCharacter: He's been dead for years before the series premier. |
| 394 | * SmallParentHugeChild: Like Sophia, Sal was on the short side[[note]]Sid Melton was 5'7", the short end of average[[/note]] but fathered two daughters near six feet and a son who passed it. |
| 395 | [[/folder]] |
| 396 | |
| 397 | [[folder:David]] |
| 398 | * OneSteveLimit: Averted, there are two Davids, and they're related to Blanche in different ways. One's her grandson, and the other's her accidental stepson. |
| 399 | [[/folder]] |
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