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4Western Animation is no exception to the rule: the surest sign of a fan is their hatred for other fans.
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6!!Shows with their own pages
7[[index]]
8* ''BrokenBase/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball''
9* ''BrokenBase/DuckTales2017''
10* ''BrokenBase/GravityFalls''
11* ''BrokenBase/TheLoudHouse''
12* ''BrokenBase/MiraculousLadybug''
13* ''BrokenBase/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''
14* ''BrokenBase/SamuraiJack''
15* ''BrokenBase/SouthPark''
16* ''BrokenBase/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil''
17* ''BrokenBase/StevenUniverse''
18* ''BrokenBase/TangledTheSeries''
19* ''BrokenBase/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012''
20* ''BrokenBase/ThomasAndFriends''
21* ''BrokenBase/{{Toonami}}''
22* ''BrokenBase/TotalDrama''
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25* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has a fiercely divided fanbase.
26%%** ShipToShipCombat between partisans of Flame Princess, Princess Bubblegum and Marceline as Finn's ideal girlfriend.
27%%** 13-year-old PB or 18-year-old PB?
28%%** Are Marceline and Princess Bubblegum a strongly-implied former same-sex couple or was it just a close friendship?
29%%** Is Lemongrab an insufferable {{Jerkass}}, a pathetic JerkassWoobie, or a sympathetic [[TheWoobie Woobie]]?, Or a [[PsychopathicManchild hilarious sociopath]]?
30%%** Fionna and Cake - best thing that happened to the show, or disgusting pandering to the fanbase?
31%%** The darker Myth Arcs are also starting to divide fans. Some find them too dark and out of place, others believe it adds great depth to the series and is part of the fun. The more extreme side of this is that some people prefer the worldbuilding/backstory episodes to Finn's various and all-too-unsatisfying romance plots, lamenting when an episode focuses on him instead of a secondary character or event
32%%** Most of the Fandom is split apart by episodes like "[[MadeOutToBeAJerkass Apple Wedding]]", "[[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack Red Throne]]", "[[DesignatedHero Too Old]]", "[[ShipSinking Frost and Fire]]", and "[[SoapBoxSadie Wizards Only, Fools]]".
33%%** The most controversial part is whether or not the break up between Finn and Flame Princess was really all that necessary
34** Princess Bubblegum's actions in several fifth and sixth season episodes have caused the fandom to split over whether she's a realistically pragmatic ruler doing [[ShootTheDog what's necessary]] to keep her kingdom safe and stable, or a cruel, power-crazed tyrant who needs to be overthrown by any means necessary. This overlaps with the Lemongrab wars, with some pro-Lemongrab fans blaming all his more dangerously insane or actively malevolent behaviour on Bubblegum's ill-treatment of him. The Bubblegum vs. Lemongrab feud caused edit warring bad enough for the show's YMMV page on this wiki to be locked.
35* The ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDragonJakeLong'' fandom is considerably torn between whether the art design change from season 1 to 2 was a good thing or not.
36* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'': While all members of the PeripheryDemographic hate "So Funny I Forgot to Laugh", they're divided on ''why'' it's bad -- some say that Arthur was indeed being a bully by calling Sue Ellen a sheepdog or likening her to one, and that this was too uncharacteristically mean. Others, however, sympathised with Arthur and thought Sue Ellen really ''did'' overreact and/or his friends were UnintentionallyUnsympathetic for giving Arthur the SilentTreatment and calling him a bully and this was meaner than Arthur's dog jokes (especially Francine and Muffy, who some viewers saw as hypocrites since they usually insult others a lot).
37* The ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fandom is notorious for this:
38** The Zutara fans and Kataang fans get into ShipToShipCombat for example. There's other DieForOurShip moments that annoy the more sane fans of the show.
39** Season three is also controversial for the fanbase. If you don't like it and explain why, you're likely be harassed for not being a 'true fan', but if you do like it, you're dismissed as a drooling, zealot fanboy/girl/by
40** Azula's series finale VillainousBreakdown is a subject of much controversy as well. People who think the influence of Azula's father on her actions gives her a valid FreudianExcuse, and that Azula deserves to be forgiven and redeemed, are accused of downplaying her numerous wicked actions over the course of the series, including advocating genocide of the Earth Kingdom in the finale. People who think that Azula has no excuse for her actions, and that not only was her VillainousBreakdown well-deserved, but that she deserves to spend the rest of her life suffering in prison, are accused of overlooking Azula's mental fragility and her father's influence on her actions. The fact that Bryke [[ShrugOfGod left Azula's fate ambiguous]] will likely leave fans warring over this issue for a ''[[PassThePopcorn long]]'' time.
41** Heck, ''Azula herself'' is guaranteed to cause arguments in the fandom, between those who think she's way too powerful and those who think she's awesome. But then again, the same could be said for almost all the cast.
42** Gene Luen Yang's post-TV-series SpinOff comics, ''ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderThePromise'' and ''ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSearch'', are a very fraught topic in the fanbase, specifically the way they depict the later lives of the characters and the development of their romantic relationships. Again, Azula's characterization as well as character arc, usage, and pathos (what to do with the character) in these comics are also subject to heavy debate and argument.
43** How Aang defeats Ozai has created quite the break, itself. There are those who feel Aang's "energybending" trick (or as many call it "The Easy Button") was a lame AssPull for the sole purpose of not having Aang kill Ozai, rendering three seasons worth of training to master Water, Earth, and Firebending worthless. Others feel that if Aang hadn't mastered the elements and achieved true Avatar status, he never would've been able to access the energybending trick at all and saw it as [[TakeAThirdOption a perfectly acceptable third option]]. And, of course, there's the overwhelmed minority who's just willing to chalk it up to RuleOfCool and apply the MST3KMantra to any argument to "how".
44* ''WesternAnimation/BabyBlues'' is divided into two camps: those who feel it was a decent and underrated "adult" cartoon, and those who feel it is mean-spirited and a poor adaptation of its source material. Generally the division comes down to whether or not one has read [[ComicStrip/BabyBlues the comic strip the show was based on]].
45* ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'': ''Any'' of the ''Ben 10'' sequels following [[FirstInstallmentWins the original series.]] You either Love 'Em or Hate 'Em.
46* The 2006 revival of ''WesternAnimation/BikerMiceFromMars'' had a rather divisive reception. While it was a SequelSeries rather than a ContinuityReboot and even had Creator/RobPaulsen, Ian Ziering, and Dorian Harewood reprise their roles as the titular Biker Mice Throttle, Vinnie, and Modo, many fans of the original 1993 series didn't like the character redesigns or the fact that the original show's villains Lawrence Limburger, Dr. Karbunkle, and Greasepit were DemotedToExtra in favor of new villains the Catatonians and Ronaldo Rump.
47* The 2015/2016 reboot of ''WesternAnimation/BlinkyBill'', to fans of the "classic" (1992-2005) series. Fans were extremely divided about the new character designs, and whether the switch to [[AllCGICartoon CGI]] animation was a good thing or not.
48** To add insult to injury for fans of the classic series, they also changed most of the supporting cast. Blinky and Nutsy are still there, of course, along with Splodge, Marcia and Wombo... but [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome there's no Flap]], as well as [[EnsembleDarkhorse no members of the Dingo family]]. In fact, [[CanonImmigrant Marcia is the only original character from the classic series to return]], since Blinky, Nutsy, Wombo and Splodge all appeared in the original books from the 1930s.
49** Replacing Flap is a frill-necked lizard named Jacko, who takes Flap's place as Blinky's sidekick. [[note]][[Characters/BlinkyBill A character named Jacko already appeared in the classic series, but he was a kookaburra, and there was also a frill-necked lizard, named Ruff.]] Considering that Jacko was also a kookaburra in the original 1930s books, essentially changing his character to a completely different species was considered by the fans to be a huge middle-finger towards not only the classic series, but also to Dorothy Wall's books.[[/note]]
50*** Due to all of these changes infuriating and [[AudienceAlienatingPremise alienating the fans of the classic series, as well as Australians in general]] due to said series being just as, [[AdaptationDisplacement if not more iconic than the 1930s books]], it's no wonder why Yoram Gross/Flying Bark made the decision to {{unreboot}} the series a few years later.
51* ''WesternAnimation/BluesClues'': Was the show better when Steve was the presenter, or when Joe was the presenter? Fans of the "Joe era" are split between whether ''Blue's Room'' was a good idea (because it introduced new characters, and showed a new side of Blue because she can talk when she's in her room) or a bad idea (since having Blue talk makes her too different).
52* ''WesternAnimation/{{Bluey}}'':
53** "Exercise" -- Its fans see it as a fun episode with an important lesson on health, and enjoy the casting choice of a New Zealander as the doctor. However, there have been fights regarding the parents' WeightWoe at the beginning of the episode -- some say it could make kids insecure about their own weights or that the scene is "fat-shaming", but others defend it by pointing out that other shows have used fat jokes, kids see their parents weighing themselves in real life without any issue, Bandit has been insecure about his health and/or weight before (e.g. "Granny Mobile"), and being overweight ''is'' sometimes bad for one's health. Eventually, the scene was cut out, but this also caused controversy, with some praising the cut, and others disliking it due to either the aforementioned reasons or seeing the show as a SacredCow.
54** People have argued over whether Bandit and Chilli should have a third child. Some say they should, since becoming an older sibling is something many kids go through and is thus useful to have on a kids' show, Chilli has expressed a desire to have a third kid before, and if the baby is a boy, that could even out the ratio of boys to girls in the child cast. Others, however, think that the baby would be a boring character since babies can't do much, or they feel like it would just be too much of a change.
55* ''WesternAnimation/BobsBurgers'':
56** Something that becomes more noticeable in later seasons is that more episodes focus on the kids, with Bob and the restaurant barely even appearing and even then not related to the main plot despite him being the title character. As a result, this has caused some minor contention from viewers about the show overusing the kids, causing Bob himself to feel out of place despite the title having his name in it. Fans who support this think it's a fair inversion to family sitcoms where the parent characters have gotten more focus than the child characters.
57** More than half of the women featured on the show are voiced by men, some of them, with Linda's actor in particular, intentionally doing a half-assed voice for them. Whether this is funny or annoying is dependent on the viewer.
58* ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'':
59** This show is either a funny, thought-provoking show, or an example of what Dave Chappelle feared [[Series/ChappellesShow his show]] was turning into (i.e. a show that was getting [[UnfortunateImplications the wrong kind of laughs, for the wrong reasons]] from the [[PeripheryDemographic wrong group of people]]).
60** Starting with season 2 the series became DenserAndWackier. Along with this change came [[CharacterExaggeration personality changes]] to multiple characters. Fans differ on what versions they prefer: season 1 or season 2?
61** Due to how animation production generally works (i.e., if you aren't ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', then an episode takes at least nine months to make), the cartoon could not reference new political issues in the topical manner that [[ComicStrip/TheBoondocks the comic]] did. Fans of the newspaper comic are heavily torn over whether the show is a terrible adaptation or whether did they do the best they could?
62* ''WesternAnimation/CareBearsAdventuresInCareALot'' was a center of at least three known broken bases. To wit:
63** Canon foreigner and designated woobie ''Oopsy Bear''. Feelings about him are split between "Want to cuddle him all the time" and "Stupid bear, don't like him". Didn't help that some fans also felt like he was put in to replace Good Luck Bear (he wasn't, it was just that Good Luck Bear was conveniently demoted to extra).
64** The demotion of Tenderheart Bear to extra and promotion of Cheer Bear to new leader. Likewise, Good Luck Bear only appearing in background.
65** The fact that the bears were redesigned to be less chubby. Feelings were split between "the redesign was long overdue" and "the redesign was uncalled for".
66* Creator/CartoonNetwork: The biggest divider in CN's fanbase is without doubt when CN started going bad and whether it has improved since ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' premiered on the network.
67* ''WesternAnimation/ChalkZone'':
68** A number of fans seem to have mixed opinions regarding the music video segments. Some fans see them as being catchy and fun, while other fans find them to be too cheesy. Other fans take the middle ground and agree that some of the songs were awesome, while the others were kind of cheesy. And then there's the camp that liked the music videos more when they were in the target audience.
69** Season four's art style also caused this. Some fans loved [=ChalkZone=]'s more detailed look, the real world becoming more colorful, and the real world scenes switching out the black outlines for colored outlines. Other fans felt as if the art evolution was a little "too much" and preferred the look of the first three seasons.
70** In general, season four tends to get this- one half of the fans found the show to hit SeasonalRot by that point, feeling the episodes weren't as memorable. [[EnsembleDarkhorse Skrawl]] not appearing very often and hitting VillainDecay, the ending songs getting a new composer and rehashing old songs, and the show being outsourced to [[OffModel weaker studios]] for animation didn't help matters. Other fans didn't really mind too much and saw it on the same level as the rest of the show.
71* Considering how Seth Mcfarlane's previous shows fared, ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' is of exceptional debate. Is it either a redundant lower quality copy of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' with excessive "black guy" jokes, or a decent spin off that kept better moderation of humor and characterization than the former show?
72* ''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' fans are torn over ''Series/CodeLyokoEvolution''. Many are happy to see the series again while others are decrying the fact live action replaced the 2D.
73* ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'':
74** If you're a fan of the series, chances are you think the show's finale "OP: INTERVIEWS" is either a great ending to a great show or a straight up GainaxEnding from start to finish that messes up the formula of the show for the sake of having a TearJerker BittersweetEnding.
75** The [[spoiler: Galatic KND]] is either an awesome plot twist or a total AssPull.
76** Also, you may consider [[spoiler: Chad stating that he's a GoodAllAlong double agent during "OP: TREATY", despite the attacks on the KND he made since of the end of the 2nd season, to be either a last-minute AssPull made for arbitrary reasons, or an acceptable twist that you think actually makes sense.]]
77** Opinions also differ on [[spoiler:Heinrich's UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in "OP: CARAMEL".
78** There's also the ShipToShipCombat, which is still going on in some form years after the show ended.
79** Did the show take itself too seriously? Was its CerebusSyndrome a good thing or not?
80* ''WesternAnimation/DanielTigersNeighborhood'' is divisive among fans of ''Series/MisterRogersNeighborhood'', which this show is a sequel to. Some people think it's too fast-paced, that the main characters may be annoying, that [[AdaptationalNiceGuy Lady Elaine's character development]] made her too different, that it should have been live-action like the original, or even just that writing a sequel to the show was wrong somehow. Other people think the show is very heartwarming and cute, and that it continues Mr. Rogers's legacy, especially to more recent generations who didn't get to grow up with Fred Rogers.
81* The ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'' fandom has an ongoing war between "true fans" and "anti-fans." The true fans believe in only writing fandom and drawing FanArt they believe creator Creator/ButchHartman would approve of, and tend towards being MoralGuardians over any fora they're part of. The anti-fans, on the other hand, believe in fanart as an expression of the fan's thoughts and fantasies, from [[CrackPairing crack]] / [[SlashFic fandom pairings]] to drawing porn of the characters (which was probably how the war started anyway).
82* ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'':
83** The fanbase was once split over the issue of CharacterDevelopment. Some enjoyed watching Daria open up to her peers, make new friends, get a boyfriend, soften her hard line, etc. Others, identified much more closely with Daria as a cynical misanthrope, declared TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
84** The entire character of Tom Sloane was a massive splitting point for the fandom. Was he an interesting love interest or an annoying character only there for romance?
85** Was "Depth Takes a Holiday" a fun mix-up from the usual ''Daria'' formula or an episode too weird for canon?
86** Was "Daria!: The Musical" an interesting episode about the town going through a hurricane or a long musical with annoying songs?
87* ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'':
88** Were the two seasons made without Genndy Tartakovsky's involvement good or a prime example of SeasonalRot with horrible characterizations and many {{retcon}}s?
89** Was the art style change a good thing or not?
90** Was ''Dexter's Rude Removal'' worth the wait, or was it disappointing?
91* The general quality of the Creator/DisneyToonStudios-made Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon sequels/prequels/midquels is often up for debate. Many agree that the vast majority of them are lazy cash-grabs meant to capitalize on the success of their predecessors, but which ones are the real stinkers and which ones are [[WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} "diamonds in the rough"]]? Movies like ''WesternAnimation/AladdinAndTheKingOfThieves'', ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'', ''WesternAnimation/ReturnToNeverLand'', and ''WesternAnimation/CinderellaIIIATwistInTime'' are cited as the best ones, while movies such as ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeastBellesMagicalWorld'', ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'', and ''WesternAnimation/MulanII'' are considered the worst. The rest of them are either liked by a vast majority, or hated by an equally vast majority. Either they're just bad movies that take a steaming dump on the original's legacy, or they're harmless movies that don't affect the quality of the first and can be enjoyable in their own right.
92* ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'':
93** When the show left Nickelodeon for ABC, the base was ''very'' broken over whether the new series was good or not. On one side, the Disney version's detractors disliked many of the changes made to the show, such as the characters receiving new clothes and hairstyles, locations being changed, some new characters being added like Guy Graham and Doug's new little sister, Cleopatra "Dirtbike" Funnie, and a few changes in the writing and voices. While some of the ''Doug'' fans that disliked the Disney episodes sometimes made valid reasons for not liking them (the episodes being written differently than the Nick ones, the new characters not being necessary, the colors were brightened too much, etc.), some of the other complaints end up boiling them down to them hating the show because "Doug's shirt looks different" or "Patti got a haircut". Other fans didn't mind too much, mainly as the changes were given reasons in-universe (note that the Disney episodes take place a year after the Nickelodeon episodes), and managed to gain a number of fans for the show that weren't able to see the Nickelodeon episodes first if they didn't have cable. The fanbase more or less breaks down to the fans who love the Nick episodes and despise the Disney episodes, and the fans that enjoyed both (though even fans of the Disney episodes will admit that [[FirstInstallmentWins the Nickelodeon seasons were better]]). And one change in the Disney episodes the fans tend to be unanimous on hating was [[TheOtherDarrin Doug's new voice]] (Billy West didn't reprise the role for the series due to pay concerns).
94** ''Doug's 1st Movie'' broke the base even more; some fans (even fans of the Disney episodes) disliked how the movie had a more "fantastical" sense to it with the Lucky Duck Lake monster and other elements, not to mention it being a minor ClicheStorm. The same fans will also blame the movie for [[FranchiseKiller killing the franchise]] for performing badly with critics, [[{{Misblamed}} despite it not being the case]] (the movie came out right before the last episodes aired; the show ended due to Disney's [[SixtyFiveEpisodeCartoon episode policy at the time]] and eventually the show's studio leaving Disney). Other fans admit that while the movie was indeed flawed, it wasn't as bad as others make it seem (but still far from a great movie) and had a number of good things about it; namely Doug and Patti's arc in the movie.
95* ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'':
96** The episode "If It Smells Like an Ed". There are fans that either [[FanonDiscontinuity hate it]] for being [[KickTheDog the cruelest blow]] to [[FailureHero the Eds]] ''ever'', or consider it among their list of favorites for being the first half-hour episode in the series and having elements of a DetectiveDrama.
97** The later seasons of ''Ed Edd N Eddy'' had the kids attending school. Some fans thought it was a refreshing change of pace, others thought it ruined the series.
98* ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'':
99** ''[[Film/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner Grow Up Timmy Turner]]'', the Live action version. There are people who detest this movie and who view it as violating canon. Also, [[ShipToShipCombat Shipping Wars]] play a part in this because according to the live action movie [[spoiler:Timmy and Tootie are meant to be]]. Not to mention that many fans point out that it seemingly [[spoiler:violates the canon of "Channel Chasers"]]. On the other hand, there seem to be a number of fans who are looking forward to it.
100** Even ignoring the rabid ShipToShipCombat, ''The Fairly Oddparents'' is one of the most controversial cartoons of its time. Most fans believe it fell into SeasonalRot but no one can agree on ''when''. As early a season 3, after ''Channel Chasers'', after Poof, after Sparky, or after Chloe? There's also a minority who like all the seasons.
101** The series in later seasons is markedly different from how it originally was, similarly to ''[=SpongeBob=]''. The characters have gone through a lot of {{flanderization}}, more minor characters like Mr. Crocker and Timmy's dad were made into main characters, and much of the extended cast has become borderline background characters (such as Trixie, Timmy's friends, etc). Whether these changes were acceptable or not varies, which usually coincides with when fans think the series hit SeasonalRot.
102* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' is in basically the same position as ''The Simpsons'' now.
103** For a good summation of trends, cutaway gags have gone from unsteady experimentation to get the formula down, to legitimately funny cutaway gags that generally use the same formula (and so get old after a few years), to cutaways that derive comedy from subverting the expectations of those savvy to the formula, to cutaways that forget the "gag" part, the cutaways for which the gag is is based on mocking the very concept of cutaways. All of these are very different types of humor.
104** "Gay Stewie" vs. "Evil Stewie" is a major source of debate. Either the evil baby persona was hilarious and [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks didn't need to be changed]], or it had run its course after three or four seasons (or was simply never funny) and the altered personality makes him more three-dimensional as a character.
105** Multiple reviewers have complained that the newest seasons have effectively run out of ideas and don't make any effort to change things, while fans have either sympathized their position or sided with Creator/SethMacFarlane and see them as ridiculous.
106** Brian's NoHoldsBarredBeatdown by Quagmire in "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E18QuagmiresDad Quagmire's Dad]]" on whether Brian deserved it or not. And the Quagmire vs Brian running feud as a whole, particularly since it was conceived as a TakeThatScrappy against Brian initially. Brian eventually hating Quagmire back and abusing and calling him out in a similar manner only made it even more polarising.
107** [[ButtMonkey Meg]]'s abuse being [[RefugeInAudacity funny]] or [[DudeNotFunny not]].
108** There is a sharp division on fans about who likes "Quagmire's Dad", "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E9TheJuiceIsLoose The Juice is Loose]]", "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E1RoadToTheMultiverse Road to the Multiverse]]", "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E25YouMayNowKissTheUhGuyWhoReceives You May Now Kiss the...Uh...Guy Who Receives]]" , "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E21TeaPeter Tea Peter]]", "Go Stewie Go", "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E14BeCarefulWhatYouFishFor Be Careful What You Fish For]]" and ''especially'' "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E11NotAllDogsGoToHeaven Not All Dogs Go to Heaven]]".
109** Fans and non-fans alike were effectively torn over the whale scene from "Peter Problems". Is it harmless dark comedy or a horrific display of animal cruelty?
110** "Brian & Stewie" is a fairly divisive episode among the fandom. Some people love the episode for taking a crack at serious storytelling, the heartwarming and tearjerking moments, and the complete lack of {{Cutaway Gag}}s. Others hate it either for trying too hard to be deep or [[NauseaFuel the infamous scene where Brian eats Stewie's poop]]. Creator/SethMacFarlane took note of this during the 200th episode retrospective.
111* ''WesternAnimation/FinalSpace'':
112** The fanbase seems to be split on Season 2. Many enjoyed it for the improved visuals and animation, character writing, as well as improving Gary as a character, and some have found it to be [[EvenBetterSequel better than Season 1]]. However, there are quite a large amount of fans who were turned off by the rather unfocused plot and episodic format, new characters that didn't add much to the story, pointless sub-plots, and, perhaps most notably, the gross-out humor prevalent in many episodes.
113*** Season Two's format. Some enjoy the more episodic nature of this season as it gives time to fully explore every character while others prefer season one's serialized approach as it feels much more like a dramatic, interconnected story.
114** [[spoiler:Avocato being BackFromTheDead]]. Many are happy that he's back as they felt that his death happened too early in the show and that [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he wasn't fully explored enough]]. Others believe that his death was the perfect send off for him and that his revival undercuts the sheer impact of [[spoiler: Chapter Six's ending]].
115* ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' is catching up too, but nowhere near as much as ''The Simpsons''.
116** Though it's fashionable among critics to bash the "new episodes," there's a lot of internal debate as to at what precise season/year/moment the show begins being "new."
117** The movies especially tend to be love-it or hate-it. Some were just happy to have new ''Futurama'' after 5 years. Others felt that it wasn't doing justice to the original run. The debate has (mostly) settled down, with people agreeing that the problem was format, having to create a movie that could be divided into four television episodes.
118** "Jurrassic Bark" is either loved for being a TearJerker or hated for the exact same reason.
119* ''Franchise/GarbagePailKids'' fans can't agree whether the ''WesternAnimation/GarbagePailKidsCartoon'' is a decent adaptation of the trading cards or if it's just as bad or even worse than ''Film/TheGarbagePailKidsMovie''.
120* An overlap with Film and Live-Action TV: There are two factions of ''Franchise/{{Ghostbusters}}'' fans: the Ghostheads, who prefer the [[Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}} Columbia Pictures film]] and its animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'', and the Go-ers, fans of Filmation's 1975 live-action series ''The Ghost Busters'' and 1986 animated series ''WesternAnimation/FilmationsGhostbusters''. The fandom is mostly divided on which animated series came first, and on which ghost-busting premise (proton packs vs. dematerializers) is better.
121** Not so much on which came first; ''The Ghost Busters'' came definitively first, which is why the Columbia films' follow-up toon had to add "The Real" to the title, as a way to [[WritingAroundTrademarks get around the fact that Filmation wasn't about to give up the naming rights again]].
122* ''Franchise/GIJoe''
123** The Creator/DiCEntertainment continuation of ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'' is the source of much contention. The opening "Operation: Dragonfire" arc is typically agreed to be the best thing to come from the [=DiC=] series, as well as the episodes ''An Officer and a Viperman'' and ''I Found You, Eevy'', the former due to the genuinely funny and clever story, and the rather tragic and deep story that the latter offers, but aside from those episodes fans are divided over whether the [=DiC=] continuation is an embarrassing travesty to the original Sunbow series or a watchable, if somewhat flawed, show in its own right.
124** ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeRenegades'' is also a source of contention with fans with some finding it to be an interesting reinvention and origin story for the franchise and others loathing it because its series premise, with Duke, Scarlett, and co. being framed for crimes they didn't commit by COBRA, made it basically an {{Animated|Adaptation}} SpiritualSuccessor of ''Series/TheATeam'' (not helped by its versions of Roadblock, Flint, and Lady Jaye being {{exp|y}}ies for BA Baracus, Colonel Lynch, and [[Film/TheATeam Lt. Sosa]] respectively).
125* The ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'' fans who think Pete is the dad from hell and Goofy deserves to win Father of the Eon vs. the ones who think they're not so different, and that neither is totally awful but neither is perfect. This split seems to come mainly from people who prioritize [[GoodParents kindness]] (or, alternatively, [[AbusiveParents cruelty]]) and ones who prioritize [[BumblingDad competence]]. Though there are some who think [[DracoInLeatherPants Pete is a great father]] or that [[RonTheDeathEater Goofy is a terrible one]], they're usually outside the realm of the debate.
126* ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'':
127** Was the show's ReverseCerebusSyndrome a good call, or did it lead to SeasonalRot?
128** Thanks to {{Flanderization}}, a few [[BaseBreakingCharacter characters]] became this. Is Billy still funny, or just a one-note annoyance? And is Mandy's cynicism still charming, or is she so evil that she's UnintentionallyUnsympathetic?
129** Fred Fredburger was a pretty good comic relief in his first appearance, but some think he became a bit overused and aggravating.
130** Irwin is a mild example. There are a few people who find him too clingy, an unnecessary [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealer]], or dorky to the point were it was obnoxious. That being said, it seems like he's still very popular with fans, and ''Underfist'' did give him a shot at redemption.
131* Before ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnoldTheJungleMovie'' was finally made to resolve the show's remaining plotlines, ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'' fans were hotly divided on the infamous [[LeftHanging cliffhanger ending]] to the series. Fans were divided between those who were fighting for the movie's revival and those who were satisfied with how things ended, or felt the movie would not have lived up to a decade's worth of built-up fan expectations. Mentioning which "side" you were on was a quick way to start a bloody argument.
132* ''WesternAnimation/TheJetsons'': Season Two is hated by some, who think Orbitty is a useless addition to the cast and the show isn't as good. On the other hand, some people think Season Two is ''better'' than Season One for [[AuthorsSavingThrow getting rid]] of some of the UnfortunateImplications, mainly by adding people of colour to the cast (admittedly in relatively minor roles) and having Judy learn to drive and not be [[WomenDrivers mocked for it because she's a girl]] like what happened with Jane in S1's "Jane's Driving Lesson".
133* The UnCancelled seasons of ''WesternAnimation/JohnnyBravo''. While some fans liked the larger central cast and more kid-friendly humor, other fans hated the {{Flanderization}} and ArtShift.
134* ''WesternAnimation/KaBlam'':
135** The ''Life With Loopy'' shorts tended to have a pretty broken base among the show's viewers, mainly due to the animation style. One half found the style to be [[UnintentionalUncannyValley too creepy]], and the combination of stop-motion animation, puppetry, and live-action a bit unnerving. The other half loved it for its artistic look, as well as giving the short a very unique look that really made it stand out. Though they do agree that the show wasn't immune to falling into the valley- the pilot episode especially.
136** A number of fans of ''WesternAnimation/ActionLeagueNow'' were disappointed with the short-lived ''Action League Now: The Series'' spin-off, as it consisted of the old shorts previously featured on ''[=KaBlam!=]'' instead of new episodes. However, a number of fans loved it anyway, especially those who [[JustHereForGodzilla wanted to watch the shorts on their own]], or ''Action League Now'' fans who weren't too fond of the rest of ''[=KaBlam!=]''.
137** Then there's the fans who were only watching the show for the Henry and June wraparounds and hated the cartoons vs. the fans who were only there for the cartoons and hated the wraparounds. And that's not even counting fans who only watched the show for one (or two) shorts and didn't care for the rest (the aforementioned ''Action League Now!'' gets this the most, though many ''Life With Loopy'' fans have admitted to only be there for the short, too).
138* While Creator/KennedyCartoons had a bit of a hatedom for a while, many fans began supporting them to the point where now fans are divided whether their bouncy animation was [[AnimationBump very well done]] or [[OffModel very ugly]].
139* ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' The eventual {{Official Couple}} of Drakken/Shego is often debated amongst some fans even after all these years. As usual, the issues are "Was it written/foreshadowed well or was it StrangledByTheRedString?" and "Do they work better as friends or lovers?".The main {{Official Couple}} of [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Kim and Ron]] was also notorious over the [[ShipToShipCombat rift it caused]] with the marginally less popular [[FoeYayShipping Kigo]].
140* SequelSeries ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' was even more prone to ideological splits, with new splits seemingly occurring with every new episode. Let's start from the top.
141** The fan base was initially divided over the {{steampunk}} setting. Fans that like the setting point out that [=ATLA=] already used it on a smaller scale, while others still scoffed at the number of technological advancements made. The debate was rekindled when the final season introduced [[spoiler:a giant robot]]. An offshoot of the debate also concerns whether the show's setting is "too modern" for the type of stories that the writers want to tell.
142** The confirmation that Tenzin is [[OfficialCouple Katara and Aang's]] son paradoxically caused a resurgence in Zutara[=/=]Kataang [[ShipToShipCombat shipping wars]] (complete with DieForOurShip). And, as with the previous series, there are plenty of [[ShipToShipCombat shipping]] [[DieForOurShip wars]] for the new cast, too, with no less intensity than [=ATLA=]'s fights.
143** Some sections of the fanbase deemed Korra and her crew {{Replacement Scrappy}}s.
144** One of the biggest points of contention was over Korra's race and ethnicity. One side insists that Korra is of color, and fanworks depicting her with lighter or [[RaceLift white skin]] trivialize the importance of a dark-skinned woman as a main character. The other claims that race is a non-issue with fictional characters, and Korra's skintone should be a matter of fan creators' individual preferences. In-show, Korra shares an [[BraidsBeadsAndBuckskins ethnicity and skintone]] with Katara and Sokka, who are of the explicitly [[EskimoLand Inuit/Yupik-based]] Southern Water Tribe (as opposed to the Northern Water Tribe, who're more advanced and feature generally lighter skin-tones).
145** Another contention over Korra is the depiction of her build. Much like with the aforementioned skintone issue, it largely breaks into two camps. The first decries any fanwork that depicts Korra with less developed muscle tone than in canon. The second camp claims that Korra's build should be a matter of fan creators' individual preference. Depictions of Korra with greater muscle tone than in canon draw far fewer complaints.
146** Following the online premiere of the first two episodes, the fanbase fractured ''again'', this time over whether or not Korra was being written as a saviour-esque character in regards to bender privilege.
147** And then there's the first season finale. It should be mentioned that ''Korra'' was supposed to be a twelve-episode MiniSeries, which means it was going to be a series finale as well. Given the fanbase's reaction to the previous series's finale, this is fully expected. [[FranchiseOriginalSin And it's for similar reasons, even.]]
148** While few would dispute that there's at least some grain of truth to first season BigBad Amon's complaints of non-bender oppression by benders, fans are sharply divided over the ''extent'' to which the VillainHasAPoint, from "there are a few bad seeds among benders, but there's no institutionalized oppression" to "the entire government is a vast [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Racist]] conspiracy, [[GodwinsLaw benders are Nazis]], and Amon is a [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters freedom fighter]]!"
149** As of the GrandFinale [[spoiler: Is Korrasami a brilliant move for representation for bisexual women, [[ButNotTooGay cheap attempt]] at being progressive, or PanderingToTheBase?]]
150** Asami was originally an Equalist inside agent. However, that was scrapped in development. In hindsight, fans wonder if that would have been better on not. On the pro-Equalist side are people who think it was [[{{foreshadowing}} foreshadowed]] for much of Book 1 and would have liked Asami to have gone through a HeelFaceTurn similar to Zuko. People who dislike the idea don't like Asami as a stereotypical FemmeFatale or think she would have been handled poorly and have been locked up in jail for the entire series, instead of given a redemption plot or turning on the Equalists.
151** Suyin's relationship with Kuvira is a deeply debated one. There are a number of lines that imply Su adopted Kuvira as a child and had a strong bond with her however [[InformedAttribute it is never outright stated in the series]]. Season four shows them always at each other's throats and with no relationship outside animosity. Whether Suyin was an emotionally AbusiveParent who didn't really think of Kuvira as anything more than a pupil, whether Suyin [[spoiler:trying to assasinate Kuvira]] was right or not, whether Suyin had a double standard towards her son, and whether Suyin [[spoiler:refusing to [[EasilyForgiven forgive]] Kuvira]] was right or not are debatable. This only adds onto Suyin's BaseBreakingCharacter status from Book 3.
152* ''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard'':
153** The series tore ''Franchise/TheLionKing'''s fandom to bits. The concept of Simba having a previously unmentioned son unnerved many fans however people could buy it if they either made the series take place after ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKingIISimbasPride'' or they retconned the film out of existence. The series uses a middle ground: It takes place when Kiara was a cub however she has a slightly younger brother named Kion, and two other unrelated cubs exist. This is a complete {{retcon}} as the second film made it clear Kiara was an only cub and the only other cubs her age were Vitani and Kovu. Many fans are perturbed by the retcon--saying it would be more interesting if Kiara was Kion's teenaged/adult sister instead. Kopa fans in particular really hate Kion, seeing him as a poor SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute. Fans on the other hand either don't care or acknowledge the series as taking place in an AlternateContinuity from the films, much like ''WesternAnimation/TimonAndPumbaa'' was.
154** The series contains a GenreShift into more fantasy elements that weren't mentioned before. The series wasn't completely naturalistic before however it didn't contain such obvious fantastical qualities such as the Roar Of The Elders or anthropomorphic issues such as The Lion Guard. This has upset people who enjoyed the fact the franchise was a normal animal story but others find it an interesting take that could be done well.
155** The series is an EdutainmentShow yet contains [[ArtisticLicenseBiology multiple zoology errors]]. Fans have put its edutainment status into question for that reason while others give it artistic liberty or let the writers off easy as it ''is'' aimed at very young children.
156* The Creator/WarnerBros fanbase is very divided over ''WesternAnimation/LoonaticsUnleashed''. Some see it as an interesting take on ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' that needed some work but is still awesome, while others see it as an utter disgrace that made [[Creator/TexAvery Avery]] and [[Creator/ChuckJones Jones]] spin in their graves.
157* ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes''
158** Is Daffy better as a screwy trickster or a greedy jerk? Fans of the former claim he's funnier, while fans of the latter claim he feels more "human".
159** ''Fresh Airedale'' is a very polarizing short. Some say it was supposed to convey a message of two-faced jerks coming out on top and the underdog being left out in the cold. Others say it was a mean-spirited, unfunny, flat-out horrible cartoon. This was dealt with in the DVDCommentary, in which a negative Website/IMDb review was quoted.
160** Are Pepe Le Pew's shorts (in which he chases after a cat named Penelope, wanting to date her) funny or just creepy? Furthermore, even those who don't like his shorts are divided on the decision to [[ExiledFromContinuity exile him from continuity]].
161** Is Speedy Gonzales the worst EthnicScrappy in the history of Mexican stereotypes, or is he a positive, badass portrayal of Mexicans worthy of his status as a [[MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales beloved character in Mexico and Latin America themselves despite being a Mexican stereotype]]?
162*** Speaking of Speedy, the shorts pitting him against Daffy in the mid-to-late 60s are ''highly'' controversial. Fan opinion on them ranges from “abomination” to “not the best, but solid in their own right”. The only thing these two camps can agree on is that ''WesternAnimation/SeeYaLaterGladiator'' (their final pairing) [[FanonDiscontinuity NEVER happened]].
163** Whether the [[AudienceAlienatingEra Seven Arts shorts]] (1967-69) are even worth watching. Some shorts[[note]]''WesternAnimation/NormanNormal1968'', ''The Door'', and ''WesternAnimation/RabbitStewAndRabbitsToo''[[/note]]during that era are considered better than others, but the rest are very contentious, especially the ones featuring Cool Cat or Merlin the Magic Mouse.
164** Not as much as the Seven Arts or Creator/DePatieFrelengEnterprises shorts, but the shorts made during the early 1960s have a more mixed reception compared to the 1930s-50s shorts. Were they as funny as ever, were the budget cuts and heavier reliance on dialogue becoming more evident, or did they simply suffer from ToughActToFollow?
165** The pre-1942 Creator/ChuckJones cartoons are divisive among fans for their sluggish pacing and for being too similar to what Disney was making at the time. Jones himself was not fond of his early work. Some people don't mind this, while others find the cartoons horribly out-of-place.
166** The post-1955 Creator/RobertMcKimson cartoons aren't as contentious as Chuck Jones' early work, but they sometimes get flack for their slower pacing and cheaper animation (to be fair, this wasn't his fault; after the studio reopened in 1953, [=McKimson=] got saddled with the animators that Jones and Freleng didn't want). While many fans say he continued to direct very funny cartoons afterward (e.g. ''WesternAnimation/StuporDuck'', ''WesternAnimation/DimeToRetire'', ''WesternAnimation/FalseHare''), a few fans stick to his older work.
167** Even WesternAnimation/BugsBunny isn't immune to this, even by his ''own creators''. Some view him as a charismatic icon that defined the cartoon KarmicTrickster trope or basically a heroic SmugSnake. The Bugs vs Elmer shorts are of particular debate, some believe they consist of some of the most iconic shorts in the series, others feel Elmer was so pitiful Bugs' usual runaround looked more like an unpleasant glorified bullying.
168*** Both his earlier shorts (1940-1944) and later shorts (1955-1964) are a bit divisive. Some people cite that in the early shorts, Bugs was more of a {{Jerkass}} (''Elmer's Pet Rabbit'' in particular is highly polarizing) and some people (including director Creator/RobertMcKimson) think he's too watered-down and bland in later shorts.
169** The biggest debate among fans is who the best director is. Creator/ChuckJones fans and Creator/BobClampett fans in particular aren't very friendly towards each other because not only are they the two most popular directors in recent years (along with Creator/TexAvery, although his work at MGM is more popular), but Jones himself disliked Clampett. A lot of this is an extension of the screwy vs. greedy Daffy debate, since Clampett favored the former and Jones favored the latter. Creator/RobertMcKimson's interpretation of Daffy was more a blend of the two.
170* Similar to the above, ''WesternAnimation/TheLooneyTunesShow'', with people debating over the different personalities/roles of the main characters, the neighborhood setting, and the overall {{sitcom}} comedy style replacing the slapstick and cartoon gags of the original shorts.
171* ''WesternAnimation/MiloMurphysLaw'' comes from the same creators of ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' , and starting in season 2, both shows became heavily integrated. One side argues that the show feels like less of its own thing due to heavily relying on the success of its predecessor. The other side doesn't mind it since it's just good to see the PaF characters again, and feel that MML still stands on its own.
172* ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'':
173** The hop from the 2D PV to the [=CGI=] series. While most are welcome to the change in art style and are impressed by the visuals, many others would have preferred to see the {{Animesque}}, ''Anime/PrettyCure''-styled visuals seen in the original PV.
174** There are those that are annoyed at how the show was changed from a relatively darker superhero series meant for teens and young adults into a LighterAndSofter show geared towards younger audiences, while others argue that this change will help it gain a wider audience, since networks were [[AnimationAgeGhetto not interested]] in the series until it was toned down.
175** [[TwoPersonLoveTriangle The relationship between Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir]]. Many people find their relationship to be cute and adorable, while others can find it rather annoying, consdering how Marinette loves to crush on Adrien.
176** The season 3 finale. Fans have found it to be a solid conclusion to the season as it starts to set up major plot points for season 4 such as Marinette becoming the Guardian of the Miraculous; while others are annoyed with it because Chloe performed a FaceHeelTurn in it and begins to work for Hawkmoth and Mayura after thinking Ladybug betrayed her. They also have supposedly claimed her character development was thrown out the window (her becoming Hawkmoth's ally was foreshadowed in one season 3 episode, and remind you, Chloe was still a brat in most of season 2 such as in Despair Bear, Frightningale, and Reverser, and thus whenever she tried to become nice in those episodes, she would always [[StatusQuoIsGod revert back to being an]] Alpha Bitch).
177* The ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'' fandom is deeply broken when it comes to the generations:
178** Many fans of the original series (the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'' TV show) hated ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' due to the AnthropomorphicShift and SliceOfLife elements compared to the fantasy-based original, along with the more cartoony look.
179** Some fans hate the LighterAndSofter original TV series in comparison to the dark and gritty SugarApocalypse-ridden pilot.
180** Fans of ''those'' series are torn between whether the direct-to-video [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyG3 G3 episodes]] were any good or not, especially due to the fact it's [[SweetnessAversion way more saccharine]] then the generations before it.
181** A lot of the modern "[[PeripheryDemographic bronies]]" that came in with ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' hate anything that isn't that show (though among the brony community there exists a relatively widespread respect, if not liking, for G1).
182** But nearly all of the fanbase agrees that [[AudienceAlienatingEra the short-lived G3.5 was a horrible idea]].
183** ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' also had fans who disliked the original for being too dark and edgy. And both fans of Tales and G3 questioned if Hasbro is doing the right thing by making FIM DarkerAndEdgier.
184** There are many fans of the 80's cartoons that '''don't''' like ''Friendship is Magic''. The art style in particular is subject to debate, specifically whether it's cute or whether they look more like mutant Chihuahuas instead of horses. The actual stories are also up for debate.
185* Almost every animated show on post-2009 ''Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}'' is this in some way. Are they worthy of the Nicktoon brand, or are they a disgrace to the franchise? For example:
186** Is ''WesternAnimation/FanboyAndChumChum'' a clever little show with likable side characters or a annoying mess bogged down by the [[CloudCuckooLander eponymous characters]]? (Themselves being {{Base Breaking Character}}s).
187** Was ''WesternAnimation/TUFFPuppy'' one of Creator/ButchHartman's better and funnier TV shows or was it a bland and annoying one-trick-pony that didn't do more with its premise?
188** Did ''WesternAnimation/SanjayAndCraig'' succeed in being a charming love-letter to the 90s, or was it just another substance-less post-2009 Nicktoon like many of the others, and one that ripped off shows such as ''Regular Show''? The show is generally considered to have discovered its identity and [[GrowingTheBeard grown the beard]] starting in its second season, but there are still those who stand by their opinion that the show was never any good.
189** Is ''WesternAnimation/{{Breadwinners}}'' a fun, energetic show that also hearkens back to the 90s, or one of the most obnoxious shows in television history?
190** Is ''WesternAnimation/PigGoatBananaCricket'' a return to form for the network with its entertaining (if crazy) plots and characters, or is it nonsensical and rather ugly-looking show that's just more of the same?
191* The last season of ''WesternAnimation/NinaNeedsToGo'': Some people like how she gets to learn other lessons that don't involve the bathroom and those lessons stick, averting AesopAmnesia. Others think the show is less funny in Season Three.
192* ''WesternAnimation/ThePenguinsOfMadagascar'': "The Penguin Who Loved Me". An exciting GrandFinale that introduces new fan favorites, [[ThrowTheDogABone gives Kowalski a win]] and finally allows us to see [[UnseenNoMore Doris,]] [[spoiler:[[UnseenNoMore Manfredi & Johnson]]?]] Or a disappointing ending that wastes [[spoiler: Dr. Blowhole's return]] and the usual recurring cast [[SpotlightStealingSquad in favour of Doris]]?
193* ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'': The TimeSkip episode "Act Your Age". Detractors tend to say that the designs for the future versions of the kids look bad and that the plot feels like a "bad fanfiction" where nothing happens and then the problem is simply resolved at the last moments, but there are people who also appreciate what it does and find it to be a sweet resolution to Isabella's story arc. (Similarly the "I loved you as children, you loved me as teenagers" situation is either painfully stupid, or else sweetly realistic of young love.)
194* The 1960s ''ComicStrip/{{Popeye}}'' TV shorts; some fans hate them for their [[LimitedAnimation cheap, stiff and often sloppy animation]], while others, particularly fans of the comics, enjoy them for featuring ''Thimble Theatre'' characters, like the Sea Hag and Alice the Goon, who never appeared in the Paramount shorts.
195* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls1998'':
196** Was "A Very Special Blossom" a mean-spirited stain on the show's second season that made everybody too out of character, causing it to be some sort of a disservice to Father's Day, or was it a heartwarming one that shows another side to Blossom, wanting to make her father happy and at the same time learning a valuable lesson about stealing, and why it's wrong?
197** The final 2 seasons (made without Creator/CraigMcCracken's involvement) gain pretty polarizing opinions. Some think that it ended the series on a very low note, with rather cringeworthy episodes that drag at a snail's pace and make the characters dumb for no reason, proving positive the staff were running out of ideas. Others think that those seasons are pretty good, with some memorable ones that bring some new things to the table and others that pay homage to creators of past cartoons, such as Creator/JayWard.
198** The 2014 re-designs of the girls have solicited reactions raging from "awww how cute!" to "OH GOD {{KILL IT WITH FIRE}}!". And now that the special itself has aired, opinions are divided on if the special was a fun and fast paced trip down memory lane that should lead to a revival series, or if it was a rushed mess that needs to just stay a one off. There is something of an agreement that the last few minutes of the special felt rushed and that it would have benefited from being longer, but whether or not if a person thought the rest of the special was good or not is, naturally, a matter of opinion.
199** The 2009 special. Some say it is the best episode of Powerpuff Girls while others say it is one of the worst. Still others prefer this episode as the Series Finale.
200** Whether or not the episodes "Equal Fights" and "Members Only" (which revolve around [[StrawFeminist radical feminism]] and [[StayInTheKitchen toxic masculinity]] respectively) fall under ValuesDissonance or ValuesResonance. Each episode also has an individual broken base:
201*** "Equal Fights." Some believe that feminism was too weighty a subject for a lighthearted children's show (even Lauren Faust thinks so, even though she does agree with the episode's message), while others feel that its motives are clear and effective (at the very least, it's the best they could have done with this subject under these circumstances). Others split the difference and say it was a good Aesop but the execution could have been done better.
202*** Many fans see "Members Only" as one of the funniest episodes of the series, but there are some who are rather peeved that the episode had Major Glory and the other ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'' superheroes being chauvinistic and condescending to the Powerpuff Girls.
203** "See Me, Feel Me, Gnomey" is either a beautifully animated episode with an incredible opera rock soundtrack that showed the writers weren't afraid to make bold choices or a mediocre special dragged down by a nonsensical plot and the poor singing voices from the [=VAs=].
204* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016'': The 2016 reboot utterly ''wrecked'' ''Franchise/ThePowerpuffGirls'' fandom. The first official art showed off the girls' redesigns. Fans were either confused ''why'' they redesigned them at all if the changes were so minor, while others thought as the changes are so minor it isn't worth complaining about. The reveal that [[TheOtherDarrin the girls' voice actresses were replaced]] upset many fans while others encourage using more new talent in the industry. The initial preview clips only made everything worse-- fans made fun of the background characters designs, the flash animation style (specifically, the multitude of amateurish mistakes), and the way the new voices sound. Fans were also up in arms about the (outdated and incorrect) usage of memes and the mere fact that the physically three-year-old Bubbles and Blossom were shown '''twerking''', accusing the writers of trying (and failing) to be relevant. Despite all the criticism, there is an equally large amount of fans who are happy to see the series come back and think the complainers have their NostalgiaGoggles on too hard, and that it isn't even made for the now-adult fans but is for a new generation.
205** "Horn, Sweet Horn", the episode with the pony who wanted to be a unicorn. While some have praised it for discussing gender identity in a way that wasn't too {{anvilicious}}, others have thrashed it because of the [[BrokenAesop botched moral]]. [[spoiler:The pony underwent a dangerous transformation procedure, not because he wanted to, but because ''Bubbles'' wanted it. She told him that he needed it. Not only does he become a monster, he discovers that [[ItWasWithYouAllAlong he was a unicorn all along]] upon returning to normal. His horn was simply tucked away under his mane the whole time.]][[https://web.archive.org/web/20160501095401/https://storify.com/creatrixtiara/emily-brundige-s-apology-re-the The episode's writer later came out]] and said that the episode was not intended to be about gender identity, meaning the supposed commentary was merely something the producers spun up to make the show ''sound'' progressive.
206** Some praise the show for promoting [[YouGoGirl girl power]] and feel that it's in step with the previous series. Others feel that it comes off as forced and (in light of dropping Ms. Bellum and reducing Ms. Keane's bust) disingenuous, hypocritical and laced with "RealWomenDontWearDresses"-like implications. It doesn't help that the girls often get kidnapped and rescued by male characters, including [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} the Mayor]].
207** The girls' personalities also came under fire. Some like the fact that they are a tad more mature than their original incarnations. They also like that the girls bicker at a more frequent basis, like any siblings would. Others feel that the writers have {{flanderiz|ation}}ed some of their more negative aspects: Buttercup's thirst for action, Bubbles' girlishness, and Blossom's need for order to the point where she's ObsessivelyOrganized.
208** Some of the villains' portrayals are controversial as well. Mojo Jojo was the girl's main arch-enemy in the original series, but the reboot made him almost completely ineffectual and took away ALL of the original Mojo's vocal tics. Some find it fitting for the sake of humor, others think that it completely misses the point of the character.
209** The series being a sort of SoftReboot StealthSequel. It obviously intends for fans to have seen the original series, despite the fact that the show hasn't had frequent reruns on Cartoon Network in a decade. Fans are split on this. Some are glad for the references and feel that they are a saving grace for the series. Others think that they tie the series down too much and make everything confusing (for example, [[VagueAge how old are the girls now]]?)
210* Was the 2014 ''WesternAnimation/RainbowBrite'' mini-series a horrible reboot or a genuinely decent series for a newer generation? Debates on its animation quality and its DenserAndWackier tone often occur.
211* ''WesternAnimation/TheRealGhostbusters'': Some viewers think that Seasons 3-7 are terrible due to Slimer having a bigger role and [[TookALevelInKindness Peter being closer to him]], Janine's design changing, and the addition of the Junior Ghostbusters, who [[TheScrappy most viewers hated]]. Others, however, think that they're still enjoyable even if they are a bit inferior to the first two seasons. A third camp thinks that the shark was jumped in Season 6, whether from the beginning of the season or after either "Janine, You've Changed" or "Ghostworld", since they introduce characters from the unpopular "Slimer!" shorts into the main show.
212* ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'':
213** Fans are torn on the DTV movie, ''Recess: Taking the Fifth Grade'', which was released two years after the show ended. One side loves it, while the other side found it too boring compared to the rest of the series. Both bases ''do'' agree, however, that T.J.'s [[TheOtherDarrin new voice actor]] [[UnusualEuphemism whomped]].
214** ''Recess: All Growed Down'' and ''Recess Christmas: Miracle on Third Street'' have one half of the base complaining that they were only made up of previous episodes linked together, while the others are happy about that, [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes as Disney stopped showing reruns in 2011 and there aren't any official season sets]].
215* ''WesternAnimation/RegularShow'':
216** "The Best Burger in the World", "Do Me a Solid", "Do or Diaper", "Think Positive", and "Muscle Mentor" are the most divisive episodes of the series. ESPECIALLY the first and third aforementioned episodes. Did those episodes have {{Cruel Twist Ending}}s, or were the endings a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome for Benson and Margaret respectively?
217** The AlternateCharacterInterpretation of Mordecai and Rigby can get pretty heated sometimes.
218** Is season 4 just as good as the past seasons or SeasonalRot?
219** The episodes focusing on Mordecai's love life. Some like this story arc, but most dislike it due to being a RomanticPlotTumor and the fact that there's a LoveTriangle going on between Margaret and CJ. It came to a head when the DistantFinale revealed [[spoiler:he ended up with neither but instead married a ThirdOptionLoveInterest.]] Some liked this for being realistic and argue Mordecai screwed up too much in his relationships with Margaret and CJ to [[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack believably get back with either of them]] while others contend it essentially made the LoveTriangle that got so much focus AllForNothing and that a [[RealityIsUnrealistic realistic result is not necessarily a satisfying one]].
220* ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'': Everything after John K.'s original run on the series is polarizing. Many fans will say that the Games episodes are an insult to the original show, but many others will say they were good enough in their own right. Same with the Adult Party Cartoon episodes.
221* ''WesternAnimation/Rugrats1991'': Fans of the show can't seem to decide whether ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' was a good idea or if it was a horrible spinoff that killed every positive element from the source cartoon. The same can be said about the episodes that came [[UnCancelled after the show's first cancellation and resurrection]], as well as Dil and Kimi showing up. At one point, these got more hate than the post-movie ''Sponge Bob'' episodes, despite not changing much apart from additional characters.
222* ''WesternAnimation/Rugrats2021'': Betty is [[AdaptationalSexuality made a lesbian]] and Howard is AdaptedOut. Some people think this is a good way of adding diversity, while others think it's taking a step backwards and saying that all butch women are lesbians, or that removing Howard is wasting a character.
223* ''WesternAnimation/{{Sagwa the Chinese Siamese Cat}}'':
224** A little some people hate the Alley Cats due to their jerky behavior, whereas most of them consider them funny and feel that they had a good heart in a couple episodes. Tai-Tai and her Sleeve Dogs also count as this, but the alley cats have more fans.
225** "The Favorite". Some fans find it okay due to Dongwa's lack of apology, whereas some felt that he got what he deserved earlier in the episode (that counts as him falling in the lake).
226** "On the Run". Most people hate it due to being mean spirited and bizaree. Whereas a little some find it enjoyable.
227* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated'':
228** Fans now have to make the same hard choice Shaggy faces: his best friend Scooby or his previous partner in mystery solving now romantic interest Velma.
229** Shaggy's relationship with Velma is one of these in itself. Many fans see it as a RomanticPlotTumor (even those that shipped the two prior to the show) while others thought it added an interesting take on their characters.
230** The various changes to the characterizations are ''the'' commonly debated part of the series amongst ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo'' fans. Velma and Fred are especially prone to this. Velma was always the fan-favorite but her interpretation in ''Mystery Inc'' is a divisive deal. Is she too [[DeadpanSnarker sassy]] to the point of being an annoying jerk or is she the best Velma to date specifically due to her sarcasm?
231* ''WesternAnimation/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPower'':
232** In the same vein as [[spoiler:Cassandra's in ''WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries'']], whether or not [[spoiler:Catra's]] redemption was well done. For a lot of people, it was a powerful piece of CharacterDevelopment that put them through the grinder before successfully redeeming them as intended, making them deeply sympathetic and demonstrating how nobody is beyond atonement. For as many others, it was overly rushed favoritism that robbed the character of moral complexity or straight up turned them a KarmaHoudini with no more than a slap on the wrist, by failing to fully acknowledge the scope of some of the terrible things they did, such as [[spoiler:causing Angella to sacrifice herself]], making them UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.
233** Somewhat related to the above, the finale, particularly [[spoiler:the Catradora romance]]. For [[LGBTFanbase obvious]] [[OneTruePairing reasons]] it made a large part of the fanbase ecstatic, especially since [[JustHereForGodzilla many of them]] watched the show just for that pairing. But those same factors created a surpring number of detractors. For [[spoiler:Catra herself]] is an ''incredibly'' [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive figure]], to the point that many detractors used to be in the [[AbandonShipping supportive group]]. Those who don't love the character and believe that [[spoiler:Adora reciprocating her feelings at the end of her RedemptionQuest]] was a case of of ThrowTheDogABone, instead feel their increasingly cruel behavior and treatment of [[spoiler:[[LoveMartyr Adora]]]] pushed the ship into RomanticizedAbuse territory, that said character's redemption was too rushed, and [[WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack not enough]] to bring it back out of said territory. A lot of fans who were interested in the show for its other aspects believe that [[spoiler:Catradora's]] focus at the end came [[SpotlightStealingSquad at the expense of]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot everything]] [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter else]].
234** Catra and Hordak's fans often conflict rather fiercely, with both being [[BaseBreakingCharacter quite divisive]]. Most fans of Catra argue that she's a more interesting and sympathetic character, that she's [[EvilIsCool cool and compelling,]] and that the narrative glosses over Hordak's crimes and potential mistreatment of Catra, while Hordak's fans often feel that he's a [[EvilIsCool more compelling villain]] whose plotline is [[SpotlightStealingSquad stolen from him by Catra,]] his angst is undermined by the show's focus on Catra, aren't happy that he loses every fight he has with her in what they feel is [[CharacterShilling unrepentant shilling,]] and feel that the show [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter seriously underuses Hordak.]] This isn't helped by their shipping tendencies, as Catradora fans often see Entrapta and Hordak's relationship as being creepy due to what is often seen as a power imbalance, whereas Entrapdak fans are quick to shoot back that they feel Hordak and Entrapta's relationship is built on mutual respect, trust, and encouragement, whereas Catra and Adora's relationship is toxic due to Catra's torment of Adora.
235** Although Double Trouble is well-liked as a character, their handling is divisive within among the show's LGBT fanbase, particularly trans and non-binary persons. Some very much appreciate having non-binary representation in a show aimed at younger audiences, particularly a character with an active role in the plot, not defined by sexuality and treated as being effective and even [[EvilIsCool cool]]. Others are less thrilled, seeing Double Trouble's nonhuman status as essentially making them a glorified case of BizarreAlienSexes and seeing their role as an amoral trickster - namely one that can use their appearance to fool people into believing they're someone they're not - as playing into the belief that trans people are faking their identity to manipulate people.
236** While the character is well-liked, the show's handling of Entrapta became this over time. Supporters often point to the fact the show treated her as nuanced, the characters call her out for her misdeeds instead of her being EasilyForgiven, and the fact it makes an effort to make her a sympathetic neurodivergent character who, despite some moral ambiguity, ultimately sides with the heroes and aids them in concluding the conflict, which many felt was an admirable message and good representation for neurodivergent audiences. However, its detractors feel that the show was too unfavorable toward Entrapta, noting that the Princesses had tendencies toward her which could be perceived as ableist or cruel, such as ignoring and talking down to her even as she tries to aid them, and feel that the show placed emphasis on how Entrapta should change herself to earn their friendship despite their prior treatment of her while their own issues are never pointed out. Some think this carries the potentially negative message that neurodivergent people should change themselves to gain the friendship of neurotypical people.
237* ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'':
238** Fans all got along fine back in the day. Now war rages between those who believe the show is as fun and sharp as it ever was, and those who think it's well over a decade past its use-by date and [[SeasonalRot new episodes are stupid and unfunny]]. Then there are those who acknowledge that the overall level of quality may have gone down but are satisfied if [[RapidFireComedy if it still makes them laugh a few dozen times an episode]].
239** Even fans who agree that the show's gone downhill have widely varying opinions on ''when'' it began to lose steam.
240*** Some point to Seasons 9 and /or 10, due to Mike Scully taking over as showrunner and some episodes that didn't go over well with fans, most notably the infamous "The Principal and the Pauper". Others, however, consider these seasons to be part of the show's Golden Age
241*** For others, it wasn't until Season 11, due to {{flanderization}} of the characters, the humor becoming cruder to compete with ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' and some episodes that were seen as JumpingTheShark.
242*** Then there are those who take it a step further and say that the decline happened sometime after Season 11.
243** The old joke goes 'how do you find out the age of a Simpsons fan? Easy. Ask them when the show stopped being funny' the gag coming from the idea that Simpsons fans tend to say that the show's stopped being funny pretty much the instant they graduate high school.
244** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E5HomerVsDignity Homer vs. Dignity]]": One half says it's one of the worst episodes because the second half is shamelessly contrived and out of place and the other half found it hilarious. Other episodes involving bizarre plots, such as "Saddlesore Galactica", "Kill The Alligator and Run" and "Simpson Safari" have received similar criticisms.
245** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS9E3LisasSax Lisa's Sax]]": Some call it a cute, heartwarming episode with an awesome ending to boot, while other can't get past Bart's sad subplot (If somebody hates this episode, chances are that will be the reason) and despise the character pampering Lisa is given in it.
246** Fans are ''very'' divided over the following episodes, all of which were controversial:
247*** "[[SoapboxSadie Lisa the Vegetarian]]": Was Lisa right to express her sudden loathing of meat consumption and then learn to tolerate it, or was it an unnecessary development that detrimentally Flanderized her character?
248*** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E13SimpsoncalifragilisticexpialaAnnoyedGruntCious Simpsoncalifragilisticexpiala(Annoyed Grunt)cious]]": Was it a fun, [[DarkParody more cynical take]] on ''Mary Poppins'', or was it a ShallowParody that relied too heavily on pop culture references?
249*** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS8E23HomersEnemy Homer's Enemy]]": Was the relentless torture of one-time character Frank Grimes funny and meaningful (demonstrating how an ordinary person could not survive in the chaotic Simpsons universe) or incredibly mean-spirited?
250*** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS9E2ThePrincipalAndThePauper The Principal and the Pauper]]": Was this episode a clever, interesting twist on a classic Simpsons character (Seymour Skinner) or an insulting waste of time that permanently ruined him and the previous character development he went through?
251*** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS9E10MiracleOnEvergreenTerrace Miracle on Evergreen Terrace]]": Was this an amusing subversion of the traditional overly sappy holiday specials, or was it too needlessly cruel to be funny?
252*** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS12E5HomerVsDignity Homer vs. Dignity]]" Was the major humiliation Homer experiences in this episode (including the scene where he is raped by a panda) funny and well-deserved, or is it so painful to watch that it destroyed any remaining purity the show retained after its quality dropped?
253*** "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS18E18TheBoysOfBummer The Boys of Bummer]]": Was this episode a clever satire of the ways in which over-patriotic sports fans take games too seriously and forget the importance of sportsmanship, or a seriously cruel and unfunny episode where Bart is subjected to relentless abuse (and is even driven to suicide at one point)?
254** "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily" is an unusual one, since while few see it as a ''great'' episode, the fanbase are torn over whether it's a bad episode, or just a neutral one. Likewise, are the jokes terrible and in poor taste, or are they the only way to make this UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode palatable? Another thing that breaks the base is whether killing off Maude was a good choice, an okay choice, or a really bad choice.
255** Long couch gags. Some see them as either hilarious or well-made (and oftentimes the best part in some episodes), while some see them as boring and possibly filler. Some people even like certain long couch gags, but dislike others.
256* Even the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fans are divided on which cartoon series was better for the series as a whole:
257** Was ''WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM'' a great cartoon series that greatly developed Sonic's character and added more depth to the series or was it an unfaithful adaptation of the beloved video games that was too dark for its own good?
258** Was ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' the most faithful animated adaptation of the ''Sonic'' games or was it an immature version of the famous hedgehog?
259** Was ''WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground'' a decent attempt at a whole different take on the franchise, or a bastardized mess that barely connected to the series in any way?
260** Even ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'' was exposed to this before the show even premiered with Knuckles' new character design breaking the fan base in two. Does Knuckles' new character design fit greatly with the character's strength capabilities or should they have kept his original design from the video games? While the show got positive reviews after launching, fans remain divided. Half will say the show is funny and smart, while the other half will say it's too childish and/or fast paced. Also, being a new character, [[CloudCuckooLander Sticks]] is a major BaseBreakingCharacter. Does she deserve her spot with the main cast? Are her jokes funny and original or forced and predictable? Is her voice cute or the annoying?
261* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'':
262** Fans are split between those who like every season of the show and those who think the newer seasons are either downright unwatchable or simply not as good as the first three.
263** A lot of fans bring up episodes like "House Fancy", "A Pal for Gary", "Keep Bikini Bottom Beautiful", "Yours, Mine and Mine", "Patty Caper", "Shuffleboarding", "Someone's in the Kitchen with Sandy", "One Coarse Meal", "I'm With Stupid", "The Great Snail Race", "Party Pooper Pants" (the latter three are part of the pre-movie era), "Driven to Tears", "A Day Without Tears", "Stuck in the Wringer", "Good Neighbors", "Boating Buddies", "The Splinter", "Demolition Doofus", "Face Freeze!", "Little Yellow Book", "Squid Baby", "Are You Happy Now?", "[=SpongeBob=] You're Fired", and "Ink Lemonade" when claiming the show has gone downhill. Whether the good episodes in the newer seasons can make up for these is a debated subject.
264** There are a handful of Season 1-3 episodes - as a general rule, "Grandma's Kisses", "Born Again Krabs", "Jellyfishing," "Nature Pants," "I Was a Teenage Gary," "Dumped," "I'm with Stupid," "Jellyfish Hunter," "Party Pooper Pants," "Ugh," "The Great Snail Race," and/or "The Sponge Who Could Fly" - which are viewed by some as premonitions of the show's downfall, by others as underrated classics, and by yet another group as episodes which are weaker than average for the show's golden era but still preferable to Seasons 6-8:
265*** "Grandma's Kisses" -- some love it for its [[AnAesop moral]] about how wanting a relative's affection and keeping traditions you've had since childhood doesn't make you a baby. However, others hate it because Patrick is an even bigger {{Manchild}} than usual in the episode.
266*** "Born Again Krabs" -- some hate it because Mr. Krabs insisted on selling an expired patty just because he was stingy, then cheerfully handed [=SpongeBob's=] soul over to the Flying Dutchman for literal pocket change. However, others like it because he learns his lesson afterwards.
267*** "Jellyfishing" -- fans think it's good that [=SpongeBob=] and Patrick are trying to be nice to Squidward and see the mishaps he gets into as funny slapstick, while detractors think that Squidward was too much of a ButtMonkey.
268*** "Nature Pants" -- was it just too bleak seeing [=SpongeBob=] giving up on civilization to live in nature only to have a bad time there as well, or was it heartwarming because it ended on a SurpriseParty?
269*** "I Was a Teenage Gary" -- was it an entertaining episode, or was Squidward being too mean to Gary by not giving him enough to drink? Similarly, was the vet an idiot for not realizing that Gary didn't need the "snail plasma" and was just dehydrated, or was that just an honest mistake? Finally, are the snail transformations funny, or just disturbing, especially since [[NoEnding they don't go back to normal]]?
270*** "Dumped" -- was it a fun episode, or was it just too sad that [=SpongeBob=] spends most of the episode sadly looking for a pet, or too mean because of Patrick getting tossed the JerkassBall and rubbing Gary wanting to hang out with him over [=SpongeBob=] in [=SpongeBob's=] face?
271*** "I'm with Stupid" -- was it funny that Patrick fell for [=SpongeBob's=] ObfuscatingStupidity and started to believe that he was actually stupider than him, or was it just annoying since [=SpongeBob=] got the short end of the stick and Patrick didn't seem to notice or care?
272*** "Jellyfish Hunter" -- did Mr. Krabs take his {{greed}} too far, or was it fine that he was in the wrong?
273*** "Party Pooper Pants" -- some think [=SpongeBob=] being the eponymous party pooper was too mean-spirited and/or out of character, or, on the flip side, that him being thrown out of the house and arrested was too much, but others like it for the "life underwater" gag and Patrick eventually enjoying the party.
274*** "Ugh" -- was the caveman speak funny, or just annoying?
275*** "The Great Snail Race" -- was it a funny episode with gags like Patrick's [[CompanionCube rock]], or was [=SpongeBob=] just too mean to Gary?
276*** "The Sponge Who Could Fly" -- are the citizens being too lazy and selfish by having [=SpongeBob=] do everything for them, or is it a funny episode and one of Patchy the Pirate's best moments?
277** Fans are also divided over the [[WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobSquarePantsMovie first movie]] - was it a hilarious animated comedy that did justice to its source material, or was it an overblown, cash-grab that foreshadowed the show's gradual decline? Was Season 4 the last good season, or the first bad one?
278** Opinions on Season 5 vary wildly. While it's generally agreed to be weaker than the first four seasons, some people find it to be good in its own right, some hold it at the same level as [[AudienceAlienatingEra Seasons 6-8]], and others find it SoOkayItsAverage.
279** Some fans have noticed an increase in quality since Season 8, and admittedly there have been a few gems in that and Season 9 so far. Still, some fans refuse to acknowledge any improvements.
280** Season 9B onwards has gained a much more positive reception compared to Seasons 6-8, but some fans dislike them because of the increase in bizarre humor/plots, intentionally OffModel animation, and widely hated episodes like "Ink Lemonade" and "The Nitwitting". The increase in continuity references also tends to be viewed either very positively or very negatively depending on who you ask. As the show's entry on AudienceAlienatingEra points out, it's worth noting that many of the detractors of these seasons were children when Seasons 6-8 were still airing.
281** There's a group that prefers the UnCancelled seasons to the original seasons.
282** There's a split between people who like "House Fancy". Some people like it because [[ThrowTheDogABone Squidward wins at the end]], while some hate it for either the [[NauseaFuel infamous scene where Squidward's toenail is ripped off]] or for simply being boring.
283*** The toenail scene itself is also a point of contention for similar reasons to the panda rape scene in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' episode "Homer vs. Dignity": Is it [[CrossesTheLineTwice hilarious in a horrible way]], or [[NightmareFuel just disturbing]]?
284** "Toy Store of Doom" is also fairly divisive. Some fans enjoyed it for its interesting premise compared to other sixth season episodes, while others cited the frequent use of {{Padding}} in the episode.
285** Who is less sympathetic in "Breath of Fresh Squidward": Squidward for stealing [=SpongeBob=]'s life or [=SpongeBob=] for becoming a GreenEyedMonster that viciously chewed out Squidward for pogo-jumping with Patrick? This went to the point that the episode's page on the [=ScumBob=] Wiki (a website dedicated to the show's worst-received episodes) had to be locked due to excessive edit warring/fighting.
286* Never, ever bring up the ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' series on a forum. You will immediately be flamed for liking the new series over the old 2D [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars Clone Wars]] cartoons. There are people who like the old series because it's more "mature", while the new series is a "kid's show". Then there are the people who say that the old Clone Wars series is "childish, plotless, and completely stupid", while the new Clone Wars series is "full of mature themes, real story, and wonderful characters."
287* ''WesternAnimation/{{Superjail}}'':
288** The show encountered a big example of this trope after the second season premiered, as the story format in episodes had changed along with the animation style (Augenblick had been too busy with ''WesternAnimation/UglyAmericans'', so the job went to Titmouse). Many fans hated this change, although there were some that wound up on the defensive of ''any'' sort of criticism, claiming that anyone who didn't like any new stories had to be anti-character development and not a "real" fan. Likewise, certain season 2 critics also asserted that those who appreciated anything weren't real fans.
289** Season 3 was a less extreme example of conflicting fan opinions, although there are those that still miss the Augenblick team and consider the Titmouse episodes to be too cartoony in style.
290** Some fans of season 2 presented the opinion that season 1 was far too sexual and nonsensical, which others didn't agree with and made another divide.
291** Personality changes in the characters have divided other fans: Is Warden better when he's more sadistic or more childish? Did Jared's increase in snarkiness ruin his original ButtMonkey personality? Were the Twins ruined and made too weak after having their alien heritage confirmed? You'll see quite the debate on these, among others.
292** Lord Stingray joining the cast is either seen as the staff bringing in a new character to keep the show fresh, or a completely unnecessary and obnoxious addition.
293** Alice's backstory confirming her as transgender. There are those that believe her story was a foregone conclusion and something that helped make her seem a little more sympathetic, while other fans claim it ruined their guessing games about her genitalia and became enraged that she didn't have an ambiguous gender or that her bulge just wasn't a sight gag.
294** The very existence of RuleThirtyFour in the fandom can spawn much debate and flames in certain parts of the internet. It's either seen as reasonable to exist considering the adult nature of the show, or as an abomination and proof that fans are ruining the show for their own strange ships and fantasies. This is also coupled with ShipToShipCombat over slash pairings (usually male/male, rarely female/female) vs. the het. Anime-style fanart or works by the East Asian portion of the fanbase are another can of worms.
295** There are even debates on whether or not the Mistress is more likable as a hippie since her radical personality transformation at the very end of "Stingstress". That, and what caused her to become a hippie ([[spoiler:Alice sleeping with her]]) is known to upset a particular faction of fans because of the assumption that it was the creators thumbing their noses at Warden/Mistress.
296** Season 4 being six episodes (reasons currently unknown) has caused another split: Fans who still want to watch it, and fans who have decided the show's as good as cancelled/dead and claiming that no one should bother (the anger over Warden/Mistress not being canonized also overlaps with this viewpoint) .
297* ''Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'':
298** Was ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987'' the best adaptation of the turtles and a great cartoon, unfaithful but a decent show in its own right, or a horrific injustice to the franchise?
299** ''WesternAnimation/TurtlesForever'': The perfect GrandFinale, or a thinly veiled TakeThat at the '87 cartoon?
300** ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003'': Is the fifth season (the "Ninja Tribunal") a solid conclusion to the original plot lines of seasons 1-4, or is it too much of a departure from them? Were all the Ninja Tribunal characters a welcome addition, or did they become too much of a SpotlightStealingSquad and take too much time away from the main characters?
301** ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'' had a near-complete change in creative teams after the first season. Fans of the show are split on which one handled it better; with some feeling that [[GrowingTheBeard Season Two and onward is when the show found its footing]], and others [[FirstInstallmentWins preferring the first season]] and feeling everything after went through major SeasonalRot.
302** Asking a group of Shellheads, who all grew up with a different series 'Which is better, the '87 cartoon, 2k3, or 2012?' will not end prettily.
303* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'':
304** The series was notorious for its Robin/Starfire vs. Robin/Raven [[ShipToShipCombat fandom war]]. It got so bad that stating your preference was a quick way to [[SeriousBusiness make]] [[DieForOurShip enemies]]. There were even little online cultures around the ships--Robin/Starfire fandom tended to consider themselves more [[OfficialCouple well-adjusted]] than the alternative, whereas Robin/Raven fandom often considered themselves more mature due to the [[JustFriends complex]] [[LikeBrotherAndSister nature]] of their fandom. It is still a controversial subject in the fandom to this day.
305** The series finale "Things Change": Brilliant and bittersweet way to end the series where Beast Boy learns a lesson about letting go, or a confusing and anti-climactic mess that goes against the mood of the series and leaves way too many unanswered questions? The way the episode treated Terra also really upset contemporary fans who had other ideas of what would happen [[spoiler:when she was revived]].
306** Beast Boy/Raven or Beast Boy/Terra? Are Beast Boy and Raven even [[ImpliedLoveInterest a thing]] or do fans have their ShippingGoggles on too tight? WordOfGod says they were meant to be platonic however most of the fandom disagrees. Bumblebee and Cyborg suffer from a similar case of PlatonicWritingRomanticReading.
307** Should Red X's identity have been revealed, or does it not really matter who he is? Another debate that continues to echo long after the show's end.
308** Is Robin Dick Grayson or Tim Drake? There is nothing that suggests he is Tim - in fact everything from him being Starfire's love interest, to him being Nightwing, to the fact it's a ''New Teen Titans'' adaptation show very clearly he isn't - however it has been debated nevertheless.
309* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'':
310** Whether it is a fun comedy that manages to properly make fun of the characters and the DC Universe as a whole or an abomination that mocks the memory of the original series is a debate that overshadows almost everything else regarding the Teen Titans...other than the quality of the New 52 comics run.
311** "Why are you getting so worked up over a kid's show?" (or variations thereof) being asked in relation to ''Teen Titans Go!'' tends to bring up debates over whether detractors' problems with the show are justified (such as over whether or not the show is even kid-friendly, thanks to the heavy BlackComedy tone and the rampant aesops) or are just them over-reacting to a show not meant for them in the first place.
312** Even fans of the show have mixed reactions to the shows [[TakeThatAudience way of handling criticism]]. The target demographic probably hasn't even seen the original cartoon and doesn't get the jokes, but there have been no less than three episodes poking fun of fans of ''Teen Titans'' who loathe ''Go''. To some, the episodes come off as extremely immature on part of the writers while others at least find them amusing.
313** "The Cape": Is it a legitimately funny GagDub of an episode from the [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans 2003 series]] mentioned above or just another shallow jab at the show's detractors.
314** "Serious Business" is seen by some as a funny episode, while others find the ToiletHumour too immature, the reveal that bathrooms are sentient too surreal, the fact that the Titans have fun in the bathroom too weird, or a combination.
315* ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'': Plucky Duck and his subplot in ''[[WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventuresHowISpentMyVacation How I Spent My Vacation]]'' with Hamton and his family falls into this category. Fans regard Plucky’s treatment throughout the movie as completely unfair, with the duck being an undeserving ButtMonkey who gets no reprieve from his plight, even at the end of the story. However, fans also believe that Plucky, being a {{Jerkass}}, [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty completely got what was coming to him]] for his behaviour throughout the show.
316* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'' has had a broken base for decades, and it should come as no surprise seeing that the protagonist and the antagonist in any given short is sometimes left up to the viewer's opinion. Jerry's hatedom can be quite passionate, however (because, unlike Tom, he has no reason to be mean since he's a mouse, while Tom trying to catch Jerry is normal for cats).
317* Creator/{{Toonami}} fans were split on [=TOM4=] (the flat-faced robo-alien one). Naturally, they were also split when the ''original'' TOM replaced [[WesternAnimation/SpaceGhostCoastToCoast Moltar.]] As well, Creator/CartoonNetwork's NetworkDecay propagates this.
318* In a less extreme case of the above, people are divided on whether Creator/ToonCity is on par with Creator/TMSEntertainment, Creator/StudioGhibli, Creator/CarbunkleCartoons, [[Creator/JonMcClenahan Startoons]], [[Creator/WaltDisneyAnimationUnits Disney's studios in Los Angeles, Japan, and Australia]], and the like, or if they're only on par with the likes of Creator/RoughDraftStudios, Creator/MoiAnimation, Creator/DRMovie, and Creator/JMAnimation.
319* Most fans agree that the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' franchise has had its ups and downs, but which is which is forever the subject of heated debate. ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' is simultaneously the best and worst show ever.
320** Or maybe the franchise has been "Ruined FOREVER!" [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER (the trope naming franchise, actually)]]: "Fans realize something Hasbro does not, that robust 25-year-old billion-dollar franchises, while seemingly healthy, are in actuality as fragile as two bricks tied together with tissue paper." That line pretty much describes the fanbase's position on everything.
321** There are ''Transformers'' fans who think the original was the ONLY series, with all other subsequent series to be inferior knockoffs. These people are known as "Geewunners", and can be identified by their distinctive rallying cry of "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trukk_not_munky TRUKK NOT MUNKY!]]". On the flipside there are "Reeduners"(a derogatory take on "geewun" based on "G1", a parody of "redone") who hate everything old and groan every time a past series is referenced.
322** Arguments over the Bay films, comic vs cartoon, Marvel vs Dreamwave vs IDW...
323** The 2009 film ''Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen'' divided the fanbase, with half of the fans considering the film an unwatchable monstrosity that ruined the reputation of the franchise, and the other half loving it regardless, looking past the tacky storyline and bad acting and instead enjoying the plentiful amounts of action, huge explosions and highly complicated special effects in the film.
324** Among series there is a division between how the difference between Autobots and Decepticons, or Maximals and Predacons, are depicted. Some series, like ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', ''[[ComicBook/TheTransformersRegenerationOne the Marvel Comic's continuation]]'', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', and ''ComicBook/TransformersBeastWars2021'' depict the two opposing forces as distinctly different types of robots with differences in their inherent design purpose and mentalities, that makes the two inherently different. Other series, like ''[[ComicBook/HasbroComicUniverse the first ongoing Transformers universe]]'' by Creator/IDWPublishing and ''[[Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse the Aligned Continuity]]'' depict Autobots and Decepticons as inherently the same, but societal factors created the divides that led to the formation of Autobots and Decepticons. Fans are divided on their preferences between these two approaches, as fans of the former like the motif of the conflict between military hardware (the Decepticons) with overwhelming firepower and the more scrappy underdogs who aren't necessarily designed for it (the Autobots), the potential for exploring the greater ramifications of one kind defecting to the other's side, and because it was what Generation One did, while fans of the other think that the inherent differences between the Autobots and Decepticons create unintentional messages about racial differences and prefer stories where the societal problems that caused the war give the Decepticons some more moral depth without sacrificing too much morality from the Autobots (as these stories typically write Optimus as someone with his own problems with the system he desired reform to and thus in having him lead the Autobots they are typically not directly related to the baggage of a corrupt system) while also opening up more interesting stories about both a pre war Cybertron under the flawed system that led to the war and to more plausible stories set in a post war Cybertron seeking to keep those problems from returning.
325*** It's seriously to the point where the only thing fans can agree on is their hatred of Pat Lee, and Squick at Kiss Players. And even then, there's room for other opinions, especially those who find creepy imagery, and therefor Kiss Players, funny.
326* ''WesternAnimation/{{Trollhunters}}'' has three particularly big ones, all in Season Three: Was turning Jim into a troll a necessary sacrifice to defeat Gunmar, or did it undermine the repeated importance the narrative placed on Jim being the first human called to the Trollhunter job? Is Merlin a well-meaning but callous OldMaster too concerned with the 'bigger picture' to care about individual feelings, or [[ObliviouslyEvil avillain who doesn't realize how evil he is]], or deliberately hiding behind a WiseOldFolkFacade? Was Barbara Lake and Walter Strickler getting back together heartwarming, or disturbing, considering how he manipulated her before his HeelFaceTurn?
327* ''WesternAnimation/TheTwistedTalesOfFelixTheCat'':
328** An in-universe case appears. Fans of "The Fuzzy Bunny Show" argued over which part they like more. (When he says "nick woo" or "neck woo"). They even [[SeriousBusiness fought over it]].
329** Out-of-universe, opinions differ on which of Felix's voice actors was better; Thom Adcox-Hernandez or Charles Adler.
330* Some crossover here between animation and comic book fandom, over wither ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan2012 Ultimate Spider-Man]]'' is a good show with funny jokes or a cheap, pandering replacement for ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' that got Marvel's [[WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes best cartoon in years]] cancelled to be replaced by [[WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble similar]] [[WesternAnimation/HulkandtheAgentsofSMASH crap]].
331* Did the more character-focused, less humorous 4th season of ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros'' [[GrowingTheBeard Grow the Beard]] or ruin the series?
332* To a lesser degree to the previous shows above, ''WesternAnimation/WabbitALooneyTunesProduction'' also has a broken base regarding the style of the show. Half of the fanbase like the fact that the show is returning to the slapstick nature of the original ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' classic cartoons, while the other half of the fanbase don't like the new designs of the characters, especially Yosemite Sam and Foghorn Leghorn.
333* ''WesternAnimation/WhatsWithAndy'':
334** Some people see Andy's more extreme pranks as going too far, while others think they CrossTheLineTwice.
335** "Busting" is a controversial episode -- some people find the episode hilarious with its plot of Andy having a PottyEmergency, and they see the ending where he gets hailed as a hero as a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome. Others, however, hate the episode because [[FormulaBreakingEpisode it's the only episode were Andy doesn't pull a prank]].
336* The ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'' fandom has been hit with this.
337** There are fans that are split between those who enjoyed seasons 5-current (ex. bringing back previous characters and exploring Tecna's homeworld) and those who think the newer seasons are downright unwatchable due to the retcons being made, the girls still attending Alfea despite having graduated back in the first film, flanderizations being made, and simply not being as good as the first four.
338** They are also divided over the following English dubs:
339*** 4Kids; Most call it a superior dub to the original Rai version and have been known to grow up with this version, while others disliked it due to it's plots, music, theme song, and names changing as well as other edits, which created an alternate continuity.
340*** Cinelume; This half of the fanbase believes this is the dub that is the most important due to having no scenes cut, edited, or censored; while the other half has prefered other English dubs like 4Kids (which they tended to grow up with) or Atlas Oceanic (which produced the 4 one hour specials and redubbed seasons 3 and 4).
341*** Atlas Oceanic; Most have liked this dub due to it's voice acting and the redubs of seasons 3 and 4 staying closely true to the original ones; while others criticize it mainly because the four specials that were produced had redone animation in it.
342** The het ships such as; Bloom x Sky (there are many fans that adore their chemistry while others hate it since they tend to be perfect and dramatic at times), Musa x Riven (they tend to enjoy their rocky moments; others critcize it for being an abusive relationship) and Aisha/Layla's relationships with Roy and Nex (some have enjoyed seeing Aisha gaining new love interests; others hate it for getting in the way of the Nabu x Aisha ship and not being as good as that ship).
343%%* The '90s ''WesternAnimation/XMenTheAnimatedSeries'' cartoon, AdaptationDistillation or AdaptationDecay?
344%%** Same goes for ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'', but worse.
345* The fan base for ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen2009'' is often split with some fans liking the fact that the show was able to adapt some of the current X-Men story lines, while the other side of the fan base complained about the show giving too much attention to Wolverine and not enough attention to the other X-Men characters.

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