History Ymmv / Metroid

15th Jun '16 1:17:31 AM erforce
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* ''[[YMMV/MetroidPrimeTrilogy Metroid Prime]]''

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* ''[[YMMV/MetroidPrimeTrilogy Metroid Prime]]''''YMMV/MetroidPrimeTrilogy''



** ''VideoGame/SuperMetroid'' was overshadowed at the time of its release by the hype for ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'', people didn't start acknowledging it as one of the greatest games of all time until 1996 or so.
** Metroid Fusion was originally the black sheep of the franchise, with its focus on storytelling and linearity dividing fans. Now, it's remembered more for its boss fights and interesting deviations, while ''Other M'' gets the insults.

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** ''VideoGame/SuperMetroid'' was overshadowed at the time of its release by the hype for ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'', ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry1'', people didn't start acknowledging it as one of the greatest games of all time until 1996 or so.
** Metroid Fusion ''Metroid Fusion'' was originally the black sheep of the franchise, with its focus on storytelling and linearity dividing fans. Now, it's remembered more for its boss fights and interesting deviations, while ''Other M'' gets the insults.
7th Jun '16 10:39:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CompleteMonster: In the manga, Ridley, [[PlayerCharacter Samus Aran's]] ArchEnemy, the monstrous, dragon-like military commander and security chief of the Space Pirates. He is the most brutal, vicious and monstrous member of the organization. [[http://www.metroid-database.com/manga/?vid=11&cid=37#manga_top He]] is introduced attacking Samus Aran's home colony, and immediately gave orders to his men to [[RapePillageAndBurn slaughter everything in sight]] and enjoy it to the fullest. When the three-year-old little Samus tried to befriend him, Ridley [[WouldHurtAChild attempted to murder her]], killing her mother when she tried to save her daughter. After Samus's father [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed himself to destroy Ridley's ship]], nearly killing him, Ridley survived by eating the corpse of Samus's mother to heal himself, a factr which he later uses to mock Samus. A veteran raider, Ridley has slaughtered dozens of innocent colonies and was the one responsible for annihilating the last of the benevolent Chozo race who had rescued and raised the child Samus. Driven by a relentless and mutual hatred of Samus and his desire to destroy and kill whatever he can sink his claws into, Ridley is one of the most feared beings in the universe and a {{sadist}} of the highest order.
7th Jun '16 10:29:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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The subjective tropes from ''{{VideoGame/Metroid}}''. For the YMMV pages for specific games see:

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The subjective tropes from ''{{VideoGame/Metroid}}''. For the specific YMMV pages for specific games see:




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* ''[[YMMV/MetroidManga Metroid (Manga)]]''
28th Mar '16 10:16:23 AM rjd1922
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** The first ''Metroid Prime'' is another game that's considered risky to criticize, since it's often considered to be in the same league as Super Metroid in quality.
** If you say that you liked Other M or even go as far as to say it was your favorite in the series, expect a few eyebrows to raise, and maybe a fight to break out.

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** The first ''Metroid Prime'' is another game that's considered risky to criticize, since it's often considered to be in the same league as Super Metroid ''Super Metroid'' in quality.
** If you say that you liked Other M ''Other M'' or even go as far as to say it was your favorite in the series, expect a few eyebrows to raise, and maybe a fight to break out.
27th Mar '16 11:38:39 AM KingZeal
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What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they were {{Downplayed Trope}}s for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. She's shown as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.

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What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they were {{Downplayed Trope}}s for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had been before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. FormerTeenRebel. She's shown portrayed as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.
27th Mar '16 11:27:08 AM KingZeal
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What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they {{Downplayed Trope}} for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. She's shown as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.

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What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they were {{Downplayed Trope}} Trope}}s for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. She's shown as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.
27th Mar '16 11:25:28 AM KingZeal
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' series has always had a very confused and complicated relationship with its ActionGirl heroine, Samus Aran. Following ''[[Videogame/MetroidOtherM Other M]]'', many detractors have claimed that Samus has been forever tarnished as a lead due to the {{Chickification}}, [[FanservicePack increased sexxualization]], and infantilization of the character (to the point that ''Other M'' literally had her regress back into a child during a PTSD {{Trigger}}). Examining the series as a whole, though, Samus was sexualized as early as the first game, was placed into a "motherly" role in the second and third games, and was further sexualized in ''Zero Mission'' and ''Videogame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl''. Not to mention that ''[[Videogame/MetrodFusion Fusion]]'' took away some of her agency and had her taking orders from a "male" commanding officer.\\

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' series has always had a very confused and complicated relationship with its ActionGirl heroine, Samus Aran. Following ''[[Videogame/MetroidOtherM Other M]]'', many detractors have claimed that Samus has been forever tarnished as a lead due to the {{Chickification}}, [[FanservicePack increased sexxualization]], and infantilization of the character (to the point that ''Other M'' literally had her regress back into a child during a PTSD {{Trigger}}). Examining the series as a whole, though, Samus was sexualized as early as the first game, was placed into a "motherly" role in the second and third games, and was further sexualized in ''Zero Mission'' and ''Videogame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl''. Not to mention that ''[[Videogame/MetrodFusion ''[[Videogame/MetroidFusion Fusion]]'' took away some of her agency and had her taking orders from a "male" commanding officer.\\



What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they {{Downplayed Trope|s}} for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. She's shown as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.

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What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they {{Downplayed Trope|s}} Trope}} for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. She's shown as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.
27th Mar '16 11:24:16 AM KingZeal
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: The ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' series has always had a very confused and complicated relationship with its ActionGirl heroine, Samus Aran. Following ''[[Videogame/MetroidOtherM Other M]]'', many detractors have claimed that Samus has been forever tarnished as a lead due to the {{Chickification}}, [[FanservicePack increased sexxualization]], and infantilization of the character (to the point that ''Other M'' literally had her regress back into a child during a PTSD {{Trigger}}). Examining the series as a whole, though, Samus was sexualized as early as the first game, was placed into a "motherly" role in the second and third games, and was further sexualized in ''Zero Mission'' and ''Videogame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl''. Not to mention that ''[[Videogame/MetrodFusion Fusion]]'' took away some of her agency and had her taking orders from a "male" commanding officer.\\
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What makes ''Other M'' different, according to some critics, is that these other games only had maybe one or two of these problems and they {{Downplayed Trope|s}} for the most part. ''Other M'' ''had them ALL at once'' and many of them were front-and-center and treated as vital to Samus's identity and character in ways that they never had before. This is further compounded by the ''[[Manga/{{Metroid}} Metroid manga]]'', which portrayed Samus in much the same way--but during a point in her life when she was a HotBlooded RebelliousTeenager. She's shown as growing up and maturing by the end of said manga, which means even some people who knew about Samus's insecure side feeling that the character regression ruined her.
3rd Mar '16 12:50:41 PM FlashSteps
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* ThatOneLevel: The second play through of Sector 2 TRO, in ''Fusion'', is the hardest part of the game due to the plant overgrowth, lack of weak enemies, and the fact that every enemy you do encounter deals at minimum 1 bar of energy in damage (nevermind the [=SA-X=], who takes 3 of them every time you touch her).

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* ThatOneLevel: The second play through of Sector 2 TRO, in ''Fusion'', is the hardest part of the game due to the plant overgrowth, lack of weak enemies, and the fact that every enemy you do encounter deals at minimum 1 bar tank of energy in damage (nevermind the [=SA-X=], who takes 3 of them every time you touch her).
3rd Mar '16 12:46:42 PM FlashSteps
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** There is a Metroid Manga that is supposedly canon, but is ignored even by most who bothered [[NoExportForYou to look it up]] in the first place. Not helping is that it isn't entirely consistent with the games.

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** There is a Metroid Manga that is supposedly canon, but is ignored even by most who bothered [[NoExportForYou to look it up]] in the first place. Not helping is that it isn't entirely consistent with the games.games and their generally minimal story.



** The explosions when you finally defeat boss.. Most satsisfying on bosses like Phantoon or Ridley.

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** The explosions when you finally defeat boss.. bosses. Most satsisfying satisfying on bosses like Phantoon or Ridley.



** Gunpei Yokoi has always been viewed this way. He is the series creator and all but he had help. Particularly when he was looking for ways to make the game and its [[VideoGame/KidIcarus sister project]] more distinct from each other Yoshio Sakamoto suggested adding in a maze because he felt the game was too short, which lead to maze becoming a core game play feature.

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** Gunpei Yokoi has always been viewed this way. He is the series creator and all but he had help. Particularly when he was looking for ways to make the original game and its [[VideoGame/KidIcarus sister project]] more distinct from each other Yoshio Sakamoto suggested adding in a maze because he felt the game was too short, which lead to maze becoming a core game play feature.
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