History YMMV / YuGiOh

27th Nov '16 7:31:14 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AcceptableTargets: Americans. Of the few American characters we see, there's [[CheatersNeverProsper Bandit Keith]], [[ArcVillain Pegasus]], [[BrattyHalfPint Rebecca]], and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty Jean-Claude Magnum]]. To be fair, [[spoiler:there is also Rebecca's grandfather who's a nice guy, and Rebecca becomes a lot nicer after her first duel with Yugi. Pegasus is a total creep but he does have a genuinely tragic FreudianExcuse, and in the [[SparedByTheAdaptation anime]] [[HeelFaceTurn he becomes an ally to the heroes]].]] Still, the overall portrayal of Americans in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' is loud-mouthed, antagonistic, and selfish.

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* AcceptableTargets: Americans. Of the few American characters we see, there's [[CheatersNeverProsper Bandit Keith]], [[ArcVillain Pegasus]], [[BrattyHalfPint Rebecca]], and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty Jean-Claude Magnum]]. To be fair, [[spoiler:there is also Rebecca's grandfather who's a nice guy, and Rebecca [[TookALevelInKindness becomes a lot nicer nicer]] after her first duel with Yugi. Pegasus is a total creep but he does have a genuinely tragic FreudianExcuse, and in the [[SparedByTheAdaptation anime]] [[HeelFaceTurn he becomes an ally to the heroes]].]] Still, the overall portrayal of Americans in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' is loud-mouthed, antagonistic, and selfish.
25th Nov '16 4:13:17 PM Ciel12
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19th Nov '16 12:43:15 PM Scabbard
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** The Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub receives mixed reactions in the fandom. There are many who decry the edits, saying that the unneeded dialog changes, ridiculous {{Bowdlerization}}, and removing of several subplots (Jonouchi/Joey's goal in Battle City is completely changed)ruins the series and creates several {{Dub Induced Plot Hole}}s. However, others don't mind, believing the original show was ridiculous anyway or that they at least put effort in the production compared to the later series. Some even prefer the dub because of the WorldOfHam coming from Creator/DanGreen and co.; there are also those who think the general {{Deadpan Snarker}}y actually makes the dub ''more'' faithful to the manga, personality-wise. For those not fond of the various series' dubs, Konami at least provides official, uncensored subtitled versions on the official ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' website.

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** The Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub receives mixed reactions in the fandom. There are many who decry the edits, saying that the unneeded dialog changes, ridiculous {{Bowdlerization}}, and removing of several subplots (Jonouchi/Joey's goal in Battle City is completely changed)ruins changed) ruins the series and creates several {{Dub Induced Plot Hole}}s. However, others don't mind, believing the original show was ridiculous anyway or that they at least put effort in the production compared to the later series. Some even prefer the dub because of the WorldOfHam coming from Creator/DanGreen and co.; there are also those who think the general {{Deadpan Snarker}}y actually makes the dub ''more'' faithful to the manga, personality-wise. For those not fond of the various series' dubs, Konami at least provides official, uncensored subtitled versions on the official ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' website.
19th Nov '16 12:30:20 PM Scabbard
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* {{Fanon}}: Some of the most widespread interpretations of fans are the relationships between Yugi, Bakura, Marik, and their alter-egos. The fan term "hikari" is used to refer to them while the alter-egos are referred to as the "yamis", and there are many fanfics where, for no established reason, the yamis and hikaris are able to exist independently of each other. Dark Marik's grouping with Dark Bakura and Dark Yugi is itself a bit of fanon, because Dark Marik is not a spirit, he's Marik's split-personality (a mistranslation in the English manga says he was around for 1000 years, which adds to the confusion). Some fans depict Dark Marik as being tied to the Millennium Rod as the other two are to the Ring and Puzzle. Other fans distinguish between Marik, Bakura, and their alter-egos, by referring to the "hikaris" as Malik and Ryou, and the "yamis" as Marik and Bakura -- Marik is just an {{Engrish}} variant of Malik (Malik being an actual Middle Eastern & African name), and Ryou Bakura is the character's full name.

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* {{Fanon}}: Some of the most widespread interpretations of fans are the relationships between Yugi, Bakura, Marik, and their alter-egos. The fan term "hikari" is used to refer to them while the alter-egos are referred to as the "yamis", and there are many fanfics where, for no established reason, the yamis and hikaris are able to exist independently of each other. Dark Marik's grouping with Dark Bakura and Dark Yugi is itself a bit of fanon, because Dark Marik is not a spirit, he's Marik's split-personality (a mistranslation in the English manga says he was around for 1000 years, which adds to the confusion). Some fans depict Dark Marik as being tied to the Millennium Rod as the other two are to the Ring and Puzzle. Other fans distinguish between Marik, Bakura, and their alter-egos, by referring to the "hikaris" as Malik and Ryou, and the "yamis" as Marik and Bakura -- Marik is just an {{Engrish}} variant of Malik (Malik being an actual Middle Eastern & and African name), and Ryou Bakura is the character's full name.
19th Nov '16 10:22:49 AM SatoshiBakura
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** The Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub receives mixed reactions in the fandom. There are many who decry the edits, saying that the unneeded dialog changes, ridiculous {{Bowdlerization}}, and removing of several subplots (Jonouchi/Joey's goal in Battle City is completely changed)ruins the series and creates several DubInducedPlotHoles. However, others don't mind, believing the original show was ridiculous anyway or that they at least put effort in the production compared to the later series. Some even prefer the dub because of the WorldOfHam coming from Creator/DanGreen and co.; there are also those who think the general {{Deadpan Snarker}}y actually makes the dub ''more'' faithful to the manga, personality-wise. For those not fond of the various series' dubs, Konami at least provides official, uncensored subtitled versions on the official ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' website.

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** The Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub receives mixed reactions in the fandom. There are many who decry the edits, saying that the unneeded dialog changes, ridiculous {{Bowdlerization}}, and removing of several subplots (Jonouchi/Joey's goal in Battle City is completely changed)ruins the series and creates several DubInducedPlotHoles.{{Dub Induced Plot Hole}}s. However, others don't mind, believing the original show was ridiculous anyway or that they at least put effort in the production compared to the later series. Some even prefer the dub because of the WorldOfHam coming from Creator/DanGreen and co.; there are also those who think the general {{Deadpan Snarker}}y actually makes the dub ''more'' faithful to the manga, personality-wise. For those not fond of the various series' dubs, Konami at least provides official, uncensored subtitled versions on the official ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' website.
19th Nov '16 10:05:52 AM Scabbard
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*** A few duels have the duelists obviously stalling for time while they draw what they need, or trying various strategies and them not working so they tries something new. If there ''is'' one card that can help you turn it around, it helps the realism that the opponent has a counter ready, or the duelist has to stall while they wait to draw that card.

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*** A few duels have the duelists obviously stalling for time while they draw what they need, or trying various strategies and them not working so they tries try something new. If there ''is'' one card that can help you turn it around, it helps the realism that the opponent has a counter ready, or the duelist has to stall while they wait to draw that card.
5th Nov '16 12:59:02 PM SatoshiBakura
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* ArcFatigue: Battle City in both versions is where the duels slow to a crawl, making it the longest arc in the whole series. Notably, the finals last longer than the main round.



* CultClassic: It was never as popular as the anime, but those who have read the manga generally find it superior.



** The Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub receives mixed reactions in the fandom. While many decry the edits, others don't mind, believing the original show was ridiculous anyway or that they at least put effort in the production compared to the later series. Some even prefer the dub because of the WorldOfHam coming from Creator/DanGreen and co.; there are also those who think the general {{Deadpan Snarker}}y actually makes the dub ''more'' faithful to the manga, personality-wise. For those not fond of the various series' dubs, Konami at least provides official, uncensored subtitled versions on the official ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' website.

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** The Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub receives mixed reactions in the fandom. While There are many who decry the edits, saying that the unneeded dialog changes, ridiculous {{Bowdlerization}}, and removing of several subplots (Jonouchi/Joey's goal in Battle City is completely changed)ruins the series and creates several DubInducedPlotHoles. However, others don't mind, believing the original show was ridiculous anyway or that they at least put effort in the production compared to the later series. Some even prefer the dub because of the WorldOfHam coming from Creator/DanGreen and co.; there are also those who think the general {{Deadpan Snarker}}y actually makes the dub ''more'' faithful to the manga, personality-wise. For those not fond of the various series' dubs, Konami at least provides official, uncensored subtitled versions on the official ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' website.



* DesignatedVillain: Dinosaur Ryuzaki (Rex Raptor) is an unfortunate contender, Most of the early villains were jerks who just happened to get Yugi involved to please their own ego, rather than the later villains who had much more elaborate plans. In the manga and the early episodes of the anime, while a bit of a jerk, Dinosaur Ryuzaki wasn't really a bad guy. The later episodes of the anime portrayed him as Haga's partner in crime. Hell, he practically advises Jonouchi against dueling Roba! You'd think he'd have been happy to see him lose, but no. He's also pretty pissed when he learns Jonouchi lost his Red-Eyes to Seeker.

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Dinosaur Ryuzaki (Rex Raptor) is an unfortunate contender, Most of the early villains were jerks who just happened to get Yugi involved to please their own ego, rather than the later villains who had much more elaborate plans. In the manga and the early episodes of the anime, while a bit of a jerk, Dinosaur Ryuzaki wasn't really a bad guy. The later episodes of the anime portrayed him as Haga's partner in crime. Hell, he practically advises Jonouchi against dueling Roba! You'd think he'd have been happy to see him lose, but no. He's also pretty pissed when he learns Jonouchi lost his Red-Eyes to Seeker.



** Overall, the dub's amount of sarcasm and snark is closer to the manga, where ''tons'' of characters were sarcastic or made bad puns, while the subtitles are straight-laced for the most part.

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** Overall, the dub's amount of sarcasm and snark is closer to the manga, where ''tons'' of characters were sarcastic or and made bad puns, jokes, while the subtitles are straight-laced for the most part.
2nd Nov '16 2:18:19 PM Ciel12
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** Various Kaiba fans, to the point that some think he was right to threaten suicide to win instead of considering other options. A troubled past alone does not a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] make. Especially when you're one of the top-ranked duelists AND the richest man in the world, and tend to be pretty apathetic towards other people's suffering at times. This is most prominent with anime Kaiba, where his character was softened, his backstory was more elaborate and tragic, and he got several exclusive arcs to himself.

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** Various Kaiba fans, to the point that some think he was right to threaten suicide to win instead of considering other options. Jonouchi often appears to be reminding the reader of the hurt Seto has caused and never taken responsibility for, the sorest spot being Death-T. A troubled past alone does not a [[TheWoobie Woobie]] make. Especially when you're one of the top-ranked duelists AND the richest man in the world, and tend to be pretty apathetic towards other people's suffering at times. This is most prominent with anime Kaiba, where his character was softened, his backstory was more elaborate and tragic, and he got several exclusive arcs to himself.
16th Oct '16 2:13:00 PM yuugame
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* TheScrappy: Anzu, who oddly doesn't do much in either series to deserve it, is this chiefly for DieForOurShip reasons when concerned with [[ToyShip Rebecca]] or [[HoYay Seto, Jonouchi, Bakura, etc]], or because her "friendship speeches" (which she actually doesn't make any more of than any other main hero in the cast.) There's a fanfic about [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1962963/1/A_Public_Service_Announcment this]] too. Once [[Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL Kotori]], who is even ''[[TheLoad worse]]'' than Anzu, came along, a lot of fans began to adore her after realizing that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap she did something useful a few times]], despite her flaws.

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* TheScrappy: Anzu, who oddly doesn't do much in either series to deserve it, is this chiefly for DieForOurShip reasons when concerned with [[ToyShip Rebecca]] or [[HoYay Seto, Jonouchi, Bakura, etc]], or because her "friendship speeches" (which she actually doesn't make any more of than any other main hero in the cast.) There's a fanfic about [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1962963/1/A_Public_Service_Announcment this]] too. Once [[Anime/YuGiOhZEXAL Kotori]], who is even ''[[TheLoad worse]]'' than Anzu, came along, a lot of fans began to adore her after realizing that [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap she did something useful a few times]], despite her flaws. Anzu was always a lot more appreciated by the manga fans, though, since a lot of her Crowning Moments are regulated to the manga, including a ShutUpHannibal moment with Kaiba.
8th Oct '16 8:09:30 PM Mullon
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** A [[ImageBoard 4chan]] frequenter had a habit of making "If my post number ends in 5" bets accompanied by pictures of Dark Yugi from Season Zero and consistently winning (or if it were funnier, losing). He was then dubbed the "King of [=GET=]s. Apparently when they meant "King of Games", that includes forum games.

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** A [[ImageBoard 4chan]] Website/FourChan frequenter had a habit of making "If my post number ends in 5" bets accompanied by pictures of Dark Yugi from Season Zero and consistently winning (or if it were funnier, losing). He was then dubbed the "King of [=GET=]s. Apparently when they meant "King of Games", that includes forum games.
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