History YMMV / YouTube

28th Apr '16 11:31:34 AM StoneBasilisk
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* FlameWar: You can locate them on almost ''every'' video. Some span over weeks, months, or ''years'' if someone replies to an age old comment.

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* FlameWar: You can locate them on almost ''every'' video. Some span over weeks, months, or even ''years'' [[ThreadNecromancer if someone replies to an age old comment.age-old comment]].
13th Apr '16 8:23:23 PM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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*** For example, this troper went from watching a subbed episode of ''Manga/SgtFrog'', to a video of an NBC News Special Report on the killing of Osama bin Laden, via the "Recommended for You" system. Another time, on an [[WebVideo/TheOddityArchive ''Oddity Archive'']] episode, the "Recommended for You" section was filled with nothing but ''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' episodes (which this troper hates), just because the creator of ''Archive'' mentioned the series in one of his videos.
13th Apr '16 8:37:22 AM Piando
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*** This one reached a fever pitch when Creator/TeamFourStar wound up having their channel ''taken down'' due to 4 strikes in a single day. And this team has ApprovalOfGod from {{Creator/Funimation}} in regards to [[WebOriginal/DragonBallZAbridged their most famous work]].

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*** This one reached a fever pitch when Creator/TeamFourStar wound up having their channel ''taken down'' due to 4 strikes in a single day. And this team has ApprovalOfGod from {{Creator/Funimation}} in regards to [[WebOriginal/DragonBallZAbridged [[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged their most famous work]].
7th Apr '16 12:35:50 PM RisefromYourGrave
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** The way videos buffer is a '''pain in the ass'''. If you seek back to a part of the video you already buffered, whatever you buffered is lost and the entire video from that point has to rebuffer again. This is due to what's called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive_Streaming_over_HTTP "Dash playback"]]. Previously, [=YouTube=] used to allow everyone to buffer the whole video, so it was possible for those with slower connections to start buffering a video they want to watch (especially at higher qualities) and then come back later when it's done or near-done buffering. Then in more recent years, Google switched over to DASH, which causes the videos to buffer in chunks of about one minute, rather than allowing users to cache the whole buffer on their systems. This does not work out for everyone, and for a while people were trying to figure out how to fix this issue. Then in 2013, an extension called "[[https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter YouTube Center]]" received coverage around various tech websites. It received such attention because it finally provided [=YouTube=] users a way to disable "Dash playback", meaning that people could once again buffer whole [=YouTube=] videos and seek anywhere they want without having to rebuffer again. However, Google then later switched up their quality systems, which caused two important quality settings (480p and 1080p) to be disabled if a user has managed to disable DASH, whether they're using the extension or not. So basically, it's like Google is saying, "Go back to Dash playback or else."

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** The way videos buffer is a '''pain in the ass'''. If you seek back to a part of the video you already buffered, whatever you buffered is lost and the entire video from that point has to rebuffer again. This is due to what's called [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Adaptive_Streaming_over_HTTP "Dash playback"]]. Previously, [=YouTube=] used to allow everyone to buffer the whole video, so it was possible for those with slower connections to start buffering a video they want to watch (especially at higher qualities) and then come back later when it's done or near-done buffering. Then in more recent years, Google switched over to DASH, which causes the videos to buffer in chunks of about one minute, rather than allowing users to cache the whole buffer on their systems. This does not work out for everyone, especially those with slower connections, and for a while people were trying to figure out how to fix this issue. Then in 2013, an extension called "[[https://github.com/YePpHa/YouTubeCenter YouTube Center]]" received coverage around various tech websites. It received such attention because it finally provided [=YouTube=] users a way to disable "Dash playback", meaning that people could once again buffer whole [=YouTube=] videos and seek anywhere they want without having to rebuffer again. However, Google then later switched up their quality systems, which caused two important quality settings (480p and 1080p) 1080p), as well as the later-introduced 60 FPS support, to be disabled if a user has managed to disable DASH, whether they're using the extension or not. So basically, it's like Google is saying, "Go back to Dash playback or else."
7th Apr '16 3:18:09 AM Genesisera
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** Copyright directors, owing to their KnightTemplar attitude and exploitation of the broken system to take down criticism or parodies of the works they legally represent.

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** Copyright directors, owing to their KnightTemplar attitude and exploitation of the broken Content ID system to take down criticism or parodies of the works they legally represent.represent.
** On a related note, the Content ID system: [[ShiftingTheBurdenOfProof the burden of proof lies not with the claimants, but with content creators,]] [[KarmaHoudini fraudulent claims lead to no repercussions for claimants whatsoever,]] [[MiscarriageOfJustice while the "Three Strikes" rule for creators getting hit by claims (real or otherwise) are considered to heavily penalise legit creators,]] and [[{{Greed}} claimants can collect any revenue from the creators' videos being targeted regardless of the validity of said copyright claims.]]



** [=YouTube=]'s horribly flawed copyright and Content ID systems, which exists as a broken mess that lingers over reviewers' and people whose channels rely on media such as film and video games' heads, as it's shockingly easy for videos to be hit with copyright strikes and Content ID, which could lead to, among other things, monetization being removed, age-restriction being turned on, the video being taken down, or even the ''channel itself'' being taken down and users possibly getting slapped with a lawsuit from corporations for copyright infringement. Simply put, the system is being abused by media corporations as a tool to force everyone to pay for such things as DVD boxsets of television series, and removing anything that could tarnish their reputation, such as satire and criticism, since this leads to a weaker bottom line. As many creators note when things are starting to get back to normal, they ''had'' to make videos describing the struggle with getting rid of copyright problems, as the system [=YouTube=] has in place to resolve this [[IncompetenceInc is so staggeringly slow, unresponsive and unreliable]], that creators feel no choice but to make their problems public and escalate what happened so that YouTube's hand will (hopefully) be forced and they can start fixing what's wrong. It's to the point where [[https://youtu.be/UiI3Mu-a2T0?t=6m23s one such person]] directly compares the solution to a [[InternetCounterattack "4chan hate-bombing"]].

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** [=YouTube=]'s horribly flawed copyright and Content ID systems, which exists as a broken mess that lingers over reviewers' and people whose channels rely on media such as film and video games' heads, as it's shockingly easy for videos to be hit with copyright strikes and Content ID, which could lead to, among other things, monetization things:
*** Monetization
being removed, age-restriction removed,
*** Age-restriction
being turned on, the on,
*** The
video being taken down, or even the ''channel itself'' being taken down and users down,
*** Users
possibly getting slapped with a lawsuit from corporations for copyright infringement. Simply infringement.
**Simply
put, the system is being [[CorruptCorporateExecutive abused by media corporations as a tool to force everyone to pay for such things as DVD boxsets of television series, series and removing anything that could tarnish their reputation, such as satire and criticism, since this leads to a weaker bottom line. line.]] As many creators note when things are starting to get back to normal, they ''had'' to make videos describing the struggle with getting rid of copyright problems, as the system [=YouTube=] has in place to resolve this [[IncompetenceInc is so staggeringly slow, unresponsive and unreliable]], that creators feel no choice but to make their problems public and escalate what happened so that YouTube's hand will (hopefully) be forced and they can start fixing what's wrong. It's to the point where [[https://youtu.be/UiI3Mu-a2T0?t=6m23s one such person]] directly compares the solution to a [[InternetCounterattack "4chan hate-bombing"]].
29th Mar '16 10:35:43 AM ShinyCottonCandy
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*** For example, this troper went from watching a subbed episode of ''Manga/SgtFrog'', to a video of an NBC News Special Report on the killing of Osama bin Laden, via the "Recommended for You" system. Another time, on an [[WebVideo/TheOddityArchive ''Oddity Archive'']] episode, the "Recommended for You" section was filled with nothing but ''WesternAnimation/CodyLyoko'' episodes (which this troper hates), just because the creator of ''Archive'' mentioned the series in one of his videos.

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*** For example, this troper went from watching a subbed episode of ''Manga/SgtFrog'', to a video of an NBC News Special Report on the killing of Osama bin Laden, via the "Recommended for You" system. Another time, on an [[WebVideo/TheOddityArchive ''Oddity Archive'']] episode, the "Recommended for You" section was filled with nothing but ''WesternAnimation/CodyLyoko'' ''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' episodes (which this troper hates), just because the creator of ''Archive'' mentioned the series in one of his videos.
4th Mar '16 1:00:59 PM ironballs16
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*** This one reached a fever pitch when Creator/TeamFourStar wound up having their channel ''taken down'' due to 4 strikes in a single day. And this team has ApprovalOfGod from {{Creator/Funimation}} in regards to [[WebOriginal/DragonBallZAbridged their most famous work]].
20th Feb '16 9:12:15 PM BNSF1995
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*** For example, this troper went from watching a subbed episode of ''Manga/SgtFrog'', to a video of an NBC News Special Report on the killing of Osama bin Laden, via the "Recommended for You" system. Another time, on an [[WebVideo/TheOddityArchive ''Oddity Archive'']] episode, the "Recommended for You" section was filled with nothing but ''WesternAnimation/CodyLyoko'' episodes (which this troper hates), just because the creator of ''Archive'' mentioned the series in one of his videos.



** [=YouTube=]'s horribly flawed copyright and Content ID systems, which exists as a broken mess that lingers over reviewers' and people whose channels rely on media such as film and video games' heads, as it's shockingly easy for videos to be hit with copyright strikes and Content ID, which could lead to, among other things, monetization being removed, age-restriction being turned on, the video being taken down, or even the ''channel itself'' being taken down. As many creators note when things are starting to get back to normal, they ''had'' to make videos describing the struggle with getting rid of copyright problems, as the system [=YouTube=] has in place to resolve this [[IncompetenceInc is so staggeringly slow, unresponsive and unreliable]], that creators feel no choice but to make their problems public and escalate what happened so that YouTube's hand will (hopefully) be forced and they can start fixing what's wrong. It's to the point where [[https://youtu.be/UiI3Mu-a2T0?t=6m23s one such person]] directly compares the solution to a [[InternetCounterattack "4chan hate-bombing"]].

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** [=YouTube=]'s horribly flawed copyright and Content ID systems, which exists as a broken mess that lingers over reviewers' and people whose channels rely on media such as film and video games' heads, as it's shockingly easy for videos to be hit with copyright strikes and Content ID, which could lead to, among other things, monetization being removed, age-restriction being turned on, the video being taken down, or even the ''channel itself'' being taken down.down and users possibly getting slapped with a lawsuit from corporations for copyright infringement. Simply put, the system is being abused by media corporations as a tool to force everyone to pay for such things as DVD boxsets of television series, and removing anything that could tarnish their reputation, such as satire and criticism, since this leads to a weaker bottom line. As many creators note when things are starting to get back to normal, they ''had'' to make videos describing the struggle with getting rid of copyright problems, as the system [=YouTube=] has in place to resolve this [[IncompetenceInc is so staggeringly slow, unresponsive and unreliable]], that creators feel no choice but to make their problems public and escalate what happened so that YouTube's hand will (hopefully) be forced and they can start fixing what's wrong. It's to the point where [[https://youtu.be/UiI3Mu-a2T0?t=6m23s one such person]] directly compares the solution to a [[InternetCounterattack "4chan hate-bombing"]].



** YouTube's copyright structure just screams this as all someone has to do is falsely flag videos to claim monetization over them or knock the video offline in certain countries[=/=]everywhere. Those flagged have little recourse [[https://www.eff.org/issues/intellectual-property/guide-to-youtube-removals as laid out by the EFF here]]. There have been instances where entire channels have been deleted by false strikes and yet [=YouTube=] does little about its copyright enforcement system outside trying to avoid being sued by copyright holders.

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** YouTube's copyright structure just screams this as all someone has to do is falsely flag videos to claim monetization over them or knock the video offline in certain countries[=/=]everywhere. Those flagged have little recourse [[https://www.eff.org/issues/intellectual-property/guide-to-youtube-removals as laid out by the EFF here]]. There have been instances where entire channels have been deleted by false strikes and yet [=YouTube=] does little about its copyright enforcement system outside trying to avoid being sued by copyright holders. What's worse is big media corporations using the broken copyright structure as a tool for stomping out Fair Use, since such things as satire and criticism of their work could potentially lead to them making less money.
18th Feb '16 11:58:49 AM Psyga315
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Hoo, boy... where do we begin...
** Users with lower bandwidths can no longer pause a video and let it buffer for a while so that they can watch it uninterrupted. Trying to do so can cause the video to restart buffering as the site tries to adjust the video's resolution or trigger an ad to play and to restart buffering the pause point.
** The forcing of the Google Accounts. Hope you got a {{Yahoo}}! account instead. Otherwise, you'd better have a mobile phone. Don't have one? Luckily it seems like the mobile phone number is only used as an optional security measure. Doesn't help though that the skip link on it is in a very tiny font.
** They also completely screwed up the main page, making it fairly unorganized.
*** The February 2014 update. The main page is more or less a clusterfuck.
** "[=YouTube=] Channels 2.0", introduced in 2009, got a ''lot'' of flak.
*** And then history repeats itself with 3.0.
*** And ''again'', in surprisingly quick succession, with the "[=YouTube=] One Channel" layout when it was launched in limited beta.
*** And now the [=YouTube=] One Channel layout is going to be mandatory.
** Also when they removed the 1-5 star rating system, changing it simply to "[[{{Facebook}} Like]]" or "Dislike".
*** And ''now'', YouTube has completely removed the ability to enable or disable like/dislikes on videos, which, naturally, invites bunches of trolls to come in and just keep clicking dislike over and over again.
** The new ad system, which sometimes occurs, and it forces you to either watch a full ad, which you can't skip or watch a commercial halfway through the video, the latter is unknown until it plays, and sometimes forces you to watch a commercial for several minutes before returning to the actual video you were watching. In fact, some times the ads are longer than the videos themselves! Luckily this doesn't seem to occur all the time, yet.
** The new video page designs, which causes major slowdowns on browsers like Firefox when trying to watch a video.
** On December 6, 2012, they officially switched to a new design. There have been many criticisms about this new design, such as the fact that the default tab on the front page is "what to watch" instead of "my subscriptions." They have also made where to log in, you have to use your email address, rather than your username. And that on wider screens, there is a massive amount of empty space taking up the entire right half of the screen.
** Trying to force users to use their real name instead of their username. It's an attempt to curb spam, but all it did was cause users to put in obviously fake names like "Creator/ChuckNorris" and "[[{{Franchise/Batman}} Bruce Wayne]]".
** November 6, 2013, after years of pestering and stealth changes to [=YouTube=] accounts that were not merged with [[GooglePlus Google+]], a social network site. Google updated the [=YouTube=] comments so that the feature and infobox connects directly to Google+. Meaning that if users want to comment as well as receive comments then it requires a registered Google, Gmail, and Google+ account in order to do so. Even one of the ''co-founders of [=Youtube=]'' (Jawed Karim) [[http://www.youtube.com/user/jawed/feed reacted negatively to it.]]
---> "why the fuck do i need a google+ account to comment on a video?"\\
"I can't comment here anymore, since I don't want a google+ account."
** Thankfully, Google is [[http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/google-officially-ends-forced-google-integration-first-up-youtube/ ending Plus integration]] on YouTube.
** Even if there's a good enough reason for ''that'' (that being to prevent spam, troll comments, and otherwise frivolous comments like "Nice video"), there is no reason why anyone should have to access their video manager to find their inbox. One's inbox should appear right when they click their username, easy to find, not something you have to hunt or Google directions for.
** The new comment section, removing the character limit and changing it all into something like Website/{{Reddit}} does has caused massive amounts of trolling by posting sections of books, offensive [=ASCII=] art, and whole movie scripts. It gets even ''worse'' from there. The new comment section allows users to link to other websites. This doesn't seem so bad at first, [[FridgeHorror until you realize that]] [[{{GIFT}} 99% of the commenters that even use this feature]] just use it to link their fellow [=youtubers=] to {{Shock Site}}s, viruses, {{Screamer Prank}}s, Porn, and other stupid shit. And comment chain letters? ''They came back''. Not exactly Google's fault this time, but it's yet another detail on top of it all.
** Originally comments on a video were separated into numbered pages, allowing users to easily skip around. This was changed to a far less practical drop down message format, meaning that a person might have to load up hundreds of comments to find a specific one. The "show all comments" button was removed for a time, although it was eventually reimplemented.
** Some [=YouTubers=] had this to say about "[=YouTube=] Rewind: What Does 2013 Say?", once all traces of Gentleman by PSY were edited out. This is especially noticable during the What Does the Fox Say? parody where [=YouTubers=] are shown dancing in a forest to a mashup of Gentleman and What Does the Fox Say? (as of now, it's just What Does the Fox Say?) because the action no longer syncs up with the song, as well as it did before, and the segue into The Harlem Shake doesn't flow as well in the edited version.
** The removal of subscription folders, which helped keep large lists of subscriptions manageable. This removal was, pointedly, not followed up with anything to effectively replace it, which means that right now, there is no way to manage long subscription lists, and all the management that people had already implemented has been erased. What's more, there is no obvious reason for this move, other than just because, and some have reported that their subscriptions were lost because of the change.
** The overhauling of the player-button look in late July 2015 resulted in the Watch Later button being removed. Those who actually use the button to save videos into the playlist are not pleased. Granted, you still can add videos from the "Recommended" section and you can manually add the video using the "Add to Playlist" feature, but still.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks/YouTube Hoo, boy... where do we begin...
** Users with lower bandwidths can no longer pause a video and let it buffer for a while so that they can watch it uninterrupted. Trying to do so can cause the video to restart buffering as the site tries to adjust the video's resolution or trigger an ad to play and to restart buffering the pause point.
** The forcing of the Google Accounts. Hope you got a {{Yahoo}}! account instead. Otherwise, you'd better have a mobile phone. Don't have one? Luckily it seems like the mobile phone number is only used as an optional security measure. Doesn't help though that the skip link on it is in a very tiny font.
** They also completely screwed up the main page, making it fairly unorganized.
*** The February 2014 update. The main page is more or less a clusterfuck.
** "[=YouTube=] Channels 2.0", introduced in 2009, got a ''lot'' of flak.
*** And then history repeats itself with 3.0.
*** And ''again'', in surprisingly quick succession, with the "[=YouTube=] One Channel" layout when it was launched in limited beta.
*** And now the [=YouTube=] One Channel layout is going to be mandatory.
** Also when they removed the 1-5 star rating system, changing it simply to "[[{{Facebook}} Like]]" or "Dislike".
*** And ''now'', YouTube has completely removed the ability to enable or disable like/dislikes on videos, which, naturally, invites bunches of trolls to come in and just keep clicking dislike over and over again.
** The new ad system, which sometimes occurs, and it forces you to either watch a full ad, which you can't skip or watch a commercial halfway through the video, the latter is unknown until it plays, and sometimes forces you to watch a commercial for several minutes before returning to the actual video you were watching. In fact, some times the ads are longer than the videos themselves! Luckily this doesn't seem to occur all the time, yet.
** The new video page designs, which causes major slowdowns on browsers like Firefox when trying to watch a video.
** On December 6, 2012, they officially switched to a new design. There have been many criticisms about this new design, such as the fact that the default tab on the front page is "what to watch" instead of "my subscriptions." They have also made where to log in, you have to use your email address, rather than your username. And that on wider screens, there is a massive amount of empty space taking up the entire right half of the screen.
** Trying to force users to use their real name instead of their username. It's an attempt to curb spam, but all it did was cause users to put in obviously fake names like "Creator/ChuckNorris" and "[[{{Franchise/Batman}} Bruce Wayne]]".
** November 6, 2013, after years of pestering and stealth changes to [=YouTube=] accounts that were not merged with [[GooglePlus Google+]], a social network site. Google updated the [=YouTube=] comments so that the feature and infobox connects directly to Google+. Meaning that if users want to comment as well as receive comments then it requires a registered Google, Gmail, and Google+ account in order to do so. Even one of the ''co-founders of [=Youtube=]'' (Jawed Karim) [[http://www.youtube.com/user/jawed/feed reacted negatively to it.]]
---> "why the fuck do i need a google+ account to comment on a video?"\\
"I can't comment here anymore, since I don't want a google+ account."
** Thankfully, Google is [[http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/google-officially-ends-forced-google-integration-first-up-youtube/ ending Plus integration]] on YouTube.
** Even if there's a good enough reason for ''that'' (that being to prevent spam, troll comments, and otherwise frivolous comments like "Nice video"), there is no reason why anyone should have to access their video manager to find their inbox. One's inbox should appear right when they click their username, easy to find, not something you have to hunt or Google directions for.
** The new comment section, removing the character limit and changing it all into something like Website/{{Reddit}} does has caused massive amounts of trolling by posting sections of books, offensive [=ASCII=] art, and whole movie scripts. It gets even ''worse'' from there. The new comment section allows users to link to other websites. This doesn't seem so bad at first, [[FridgeHorror until you realize that]] [[{{GIFT}} 99% of the commenters that even use this feature]] just use it to link their fellow [=youtubers=] to {{Shock Site}}s, viruses, {{Screamer Prank}}s, Porn, and other stupid shit. And comment chain letters? ''They came back''. Not exactly Google's fault this time, but it's yet another detail on top of it all.
** Originally comments on a video were separated into numbered pages, allowing users to easily skip around. This was changed to a far less practical drop down message format, meaning that a person might have to load up hundreds of comments to find a specific one. The "show all comments" button was removed for a time, although it was eventually reimplemented.
** Some [=YouTubers=] had this to say about "[=YouTube=] Rewind: What Does 2013 Say?", once all traces of Gentleman by PSY were edited out. This is especially noticable during the What Does the Fox Say? parody where [=YouTubers=] are shown dancing in a forest to a mashup of Gentleman and What Does the Fox Say? (as of now, it's just What Does the Fox Say?) because the action no longer syncs up with the song, as well as it did before, and the segue into The Harlem Shake doesn't flow as well in the edited version.
** The removal of subscription folders, which helped keep large lists of subscriptions manageable. This removal was, pointedly, not followed up with anything to effectively replace it, which means that right now, there is no way to manage long subscription lists, and all the management that people had already implemented has been erased. What's more, there is no obvious reason for this move, other than just because, and some have reported that their subscriptions were lost because of the change.
** The overhauling of the player-button look in late July 2015 resulted in the Watch Later button being removed. Those who actually use the button to save videos into the playlist are not pleased. Granted, you still can add videos from the "Recommended" section and you can manually add the video using the "Add to Playlist" feature, but still.
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18th Feb '16 11:50:36 AM Psyga315
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** There have been hundreds of videos taken down due to [=YouTube=] recognizing bogus copyright claims. And that is all we'll say on the matter.

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** There have been hundreds of videos taken down due to [=YouTube=] recognizing bogus copyright claims. And So much so, that is listing them all we'll say would take all day, so that's all we're saying on the matter.
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