History YMMV / Xenogears

6th Aug '17 9:53:27 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: Miang is eventually revealed to be the game's true BigBad. Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant, Miang turns out to be an ancient being with one goal: to prepare humanity for harvest by Deus. The 'Eve' of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to manipulate human history by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in Xenogears.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's true BigBad. conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant, assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal: goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest harvest]] by Deus. [[BigBad Deus]]. The 'Eve' "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in Xenogears.''Xenogears''.]]
22nd Jul '17 1:39:08 PM AquaRegia
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** You know how [[spoiler:almost all of the humans are transformed into Wels and forcibly grafted onto Deus against their will? You can thank Krelian for that little trick.]] It's definitely not his only horrible act, but it's certainly the worst.
16th Jun '17 1:57:59 AM Sleep_is_God
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* ExecutiveMeddling: Due to the extremely linear and narration-heavy nature of the second disc, various rumors have circulated for years about what could have caused it, most of them having to do with Creator/Squaresoft pulling resources away from the project. Years later, [[https://kotaku.com/the-real-story-behind-xenogears-unfinished-disc-2-1796151112 the game's director put the question to rest]]: at the time of the game's production, there was a mandate in the company that games had to be completed in two years. However, the team behind Xenogears was primarily composed of newer and inexperienced staff, which meant that in addition to making the game proper, the senior staff members needed to spend a lot of time teaching the younger talent how to do their jobs. This meant the game wasn't able to meet its deadlines, and Squaresoft management suggested that they end the game after the first disc. Tetsuya Takahashi thought this would have been awful and proposed that they could finish the game on time and without going over-budget if they took a different approach.
15th Jun '17 10:41:52 PM Draghinazzo
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The supposed events behind the scenes of this game are some of the most notorious in videogame history. As the stories go, halfway through the game's development, Creator/SquareSoft took a big chunk of the development team out of working the game to work on ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVIII''. This explains the game's extremely linear and narration-heavy second disc. Years later, [[https://kotaku.com/the-real-story-behind-xenogears-unfinished-disc-2-1796151112 the game's director put the question to rest]]: at the time of the game's production, there was a mandate that games had to be completed in two years. However, the team behind Xenogears was primarily composed of newer and inexperienced staff, which meant that in addition to making the game proper, the senior staff members needed to spend a lot of time teaching the younger talent how to do their jobs. This meant the game wasn't able to meet its deadlines, and Squaresoft management suggested that they end the game after the first disc. Tetsuya Takahashi thought this would have been awful and proposed that they could finish the game on time and without going over-budget if they took a different approach.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The supposed events behind Due to the scenes of this game are some of the most notorious in videogame history. As the stories go, halfway through the game's development, Creator/SquareSoft took a big chunk of the development team out of working the game to work on ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVIII''. This explains the game's extremely linear and narration-heavy nature of the second disc.disc, various rumors have circulated for years about what could have caused it, most of them having to do with Creator/Squaresoft pulling resources away from the project. Years later, [[https://kotaku.com/the-real-story-behind-xenogears-unfinished-disc-2-1796151112 the game's director put the question to rest]]: at the time of the game's production, there was a mandate in the company that games had to be completed in two years. However, the team behind Xenogears was primarily composed of newer and inexperienced staff, which meant that in addition to making the game proper, the senior staff members needed to spend a lot of time teaching the younger talent how to do their jobs. This meant the game wasn't able to meet its deadlines, and Squaresoft management suggested that they end the game after the first disc. Tetsuya Takahashi thought this would have been awful and proposed that they could finish the game on time and without going over-budget if they took a different approach.
15th Jun '17 10:38:57 PM Draghinazzo
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The supposed events behind the scenes of this game are some of the most notorious in videogame history. As the stories go, halfway through the game's development, Creator/SquareSoft took a big chunk of the development team out of working the game to work on ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVIII''. This explains the game's extremely linear and narration-heavy second disc. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Many fans speculate the game would have been even more of an epic classic had the development team not been castrated this way.]]

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The supposed events behind the scenes of this game are some of the most notorious in videogame history. As the stories go, halfway through the game's development, Creator/SquareSoft took a big chunk of the development team out of working the game to work on ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVIII''. This explains the game's extremely linear and narration-heavy second disc. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Many fans speculate Years later, [[https://kotaku.com/the-real-story-behind-xenogears-unfinished-disc-2-1796151112 the game's director put the question to rest]]: at the time of the game's production, there was a mandate that games had to be completed in two years. However, the team behind Xenogears was primarily composed of newer and inexperienced staff, which meant that in addition to making the game proper, the senior staff members needed to spend a lot of time teaching the younger talent how to do their jobs. This meant the game wasn't able to meet its deadlines, and Squaresoft management suggested that they end the game after the first disc. Tetsuya Takahashi thought this would have been even more of an epic classic had awful and proposed that they could finish the development team not been castrated this way.]]game on time and without going over-budget if they took a different approach.
30th Apr '17 4:25:12 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* LoveItOrHateIt: You'll either hate this game or love it. However, it'll take at least one playthrough, mild knowledge of gnosticism, and a gander at Perfect Works to even come close to ''understanding'' it.


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* LoveItOrHateIt: You'll either hate this game or love it. However, it'll take at least one playthrough, mild knowledge of gnosticism, and a gander at Perfect Works to even come close to ''understanding'' it.
11th Feb '17 9:43:10 AM Gosicrystal
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** The Holy Pendant doubles the duration of in-battle effects on the equipped character. Possibly due to a [[GoodBadBugs programming oversight]], this bonus also extends to Gear combat, which means that the equipped character can spend up to ''six turns'' in [[LimitBreak Hyper Mode]]. [[LostForever Miss your chance]] to buy one? Never fear! You get one for free when Billy joins you.

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** The Holy Pendant doubles the duration of in-battle effects on the equipped character. Possibly due to a [[GoodBadBugs programming oversight]], this bonus also extends to Gear combat, which means that the equipped character can spend up to ''six turns'' in [[LimitBreak Hyper Mode]]. [[LostForever Miss your chance]] chance to buy one? Never fear! You get one for free when Billy joins you.



** Equipping Elly with three Power Magics and using Aerods (or ether) is less of a nuke than an Ether Doubler, but they aren't LostForever and are the optimal alternative. Most bosses can be taken down after four or five hits with Aerods on Power Magics, at least [[spoiler: while Elly's still in the party]].

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** Equipping Elly with three Power Magics and using Aerods (or ether) is less of a nuke than an Ether Doubler, but they aren't LostForever {{Permanently Missable|Content}} and are the optimal alternative. Most bosses can be taken down after four or five hits with Aerods on Power Magics, at least [[spoiler: while Elly's still in the party]].
4th Jan '17 2:55:33 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: Vanderkaum really likes his cannon, and Bart really loves his Bart Missiles and the cannon on Ft. Jasper. [[spoiler: Elhaym was originally created by seven-year-old Abel's desire for a "mother's will".]] The two become lovers, for over [[spoiler: 10,000 years.]] All of this was completely intentional, as the game was partially based on Freud's works.
25th Dec '16 9:50:59 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Grahf, truly a MagnificentBastard. He wasn't as manipulative as Krelian and so, unlike Krelian, he wasn't [[TheChessmaster in complete control of everything that happens to the very end]] but his [[{{Badass}} kick ass moments]] makes up for that.

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** Grahf, truly a MagnificentBastard. He wasn't as manipulative as Krelian and so, unlike Krelian, he wasn't [[TheChessmaster in complete control of everything that happens to the very end]] but his [[{{Badass}} kick ass moments]] moments makes up for that.



* {{Mondegreen}}: From "Knight of Fire", a lot of people hear something like [[spoiler: sex in the gas chamber]] being sung in the background.
3rd Nov '16 8:46:55 PM Nicoaln
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** A scene in the ending wherein [[spoiler: Elly trips, and Fei tries to go catch her.]] Fei shouts [[SayMyName "EEEEELLLLLYYYYY!"]] while [[spoiler: ''flat out diving to the ground like he's jumping off a diving board]].

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** A scene in the ending wherein [[spoiler: Elly trips, and Fei tries to go catch her.]] Fei shouts [[SayMyName "EEEEELLLLLYYYYY!"]] while [[spoiler: ''flat out diving to the ground like he's jumping off a diving board]].board'']].
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