History YMMV / Xenogears

2nd Apr '16 6:22:54 AM Kahran042
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* FollowTheLeader: It's the story of angst-ridden protagonist sucked into circumstances he barely even understands who hates mechs and fighting, and is prone to going on destructive rampages with his mech. The game also has tons of ContemplateOurNavels and vague foreshadowing, an [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Omniscient Council of Vagueness]] and an [[spoiler:AssimilationPlot]]. [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Does any of this sound familiar?]]
** The two even share some of the same animators (both being animated by Creator/ProductionIG), which is why cutscenes resemble Evangelion's art style. It's also unclear exactly how much got its influence from ''Evangelion'' and how much was coincidental[[note]]Seeing how the game was originally planned to be ''Final Fantasy VII'', and presumably was created before the whole detective in New York thing, placing it in 1994~, which means development started around the same time as ''Evangelion''.[[/note]]
** Some of it may be a coincidence, as Takahashi was apparently interested in HumongousMecha and religion since childhood.
14th Jan '16 7:31:55 PM nombretomado
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The supposed events behind the scenes of this game are some of the most notorious in videogame history. As the stories go, halfway through the game's development, SquareSoft took a big chunk of the development team out of working the game to work on ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVIII''. This explains the game's extremely linear and narration-heavy second disc. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Many fans speculate the game would have been even more of an epic classic had the development team not been castrated this way.]]

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* ExecutiveMeddling: The supposed events behind the scenes of this game are some of the most notorious in videogame history. As the stories go, halfway through the game's development, SquareSoft Creator/SquareSoft took a big chunk of the development team out of working the game to work on ''Videogame/FinalFantasyVIII''. This explains the game's extremely linear and narration-heavy second disc. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Many fans speculate the game would have been even more of an epic classic had the development team not been castrated this way.]]
10th Jan '16 8:21:48 AM Customer
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30th Dec '15 6:22:52 PM MagBas
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* CanonSue: Citan. Fortunately, [[TropesAreNotBad this doesn't damage the game much]].



* MarySue: The amount of intricate planning that seems nigh-impossible to fully flesh out, plus the fact that he ''never'' loses and in fact gets exactly what he wants in the end, despite every horrible thing he took part in, and is forgiven by Fei and Elly in the end, Krelian can honestly come off as very much like a [[VillainSue particular type]] of Mary Sue.
15th Dec '15 10:05:00 AM DivineDeath
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* LateCharacterSyndrome: Emeralda. She joins the party ''very'' late, after the penultimate dungeon in the first disc, and can't be used at all in the very lengthy Solaris chapter, which means she can only have a serious presence in the second disc. While she's by no means a bad fighter, is capable of having high statistics after her PlotRelevantAgeUp, and is an even better mage than Elly, the fact that she comes in so late and has really no bearing on the plot means a lot of players never bother using her.
13th Dec '15 8:30:58 PM DivineDeath
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Krelian was clearly supposed to be seen in a sympathetic light at the end, and both Fei and Elly are shown to forgive him for his sins, going so far as to beseech him to return so he can atone. However, the fact that he had turned traitor to join Solaris, ruled the world from the shadows for 500 years, conducted all manner of gruesome experiments on people during that time, was willing to commit genocide on the entire human race, wiped out 90% of the population, ''and'' frequently mocked those he wronged, all because he lost the woman he loved, does not afford him much love from many fans.
13th Dec '15 7:45:06 PM DivineDeath
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Gazel Ministry were essentially SEELE [[InSpace in computer form]]. Ten-some years later, [[spoiler:and ''[[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Rebulid]]'''s SEELE turn out to be AI themselves]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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The Gazel Ministry were essentially SEELE [[InSpace in computer form]]. Ten-some years later, [[spoiler:and ''[[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Rebulid]]'''s SEELE turn out to be AI themselves]].themselves]].
** The use of nanomachines as a catch-all device to move the plot along has gotten only funnier after ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4'' became infamous for doing the exact same thing nearly ten years later.
17th Nov '15 1:44:34 PM Windrays
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* You know how [[spoiler:almost all of the humans are transformed into Wels and forcibly grafted onto Deus against their will? You can thank Krelian for that little trick.]] It's definitely not his only horrible act, but it's certainly the worst.

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* ** You know how [[spoiler:almost all of the humans are transformed into Wels and forcibly grafted onto Deus against their will? You can thank Krelian for that little trick.]] It's definitely not his only horrible act, but it's certainly the worst.
17th Nov '15 1:44:07 PM Windrays
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* You know how [[spoiler:almost all of the humans are transformed into Wels and forcibly grafted onto Deus against their will? You can thank Krelian for that little trick.]] It's definitely not his only horrible act, but it's certainly the worst.
7th Nov '15 4:25:26 PM nombretomado
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Gazel Ministry were essentially SEELE [[InSpace in computer form]]. Ten-some years later, [[spoiler:and ''[[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebulid]]'''s SEELE turn out to be AI themselves]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: The Gazel Ministry were essentially SEELE [[InSpace in computer form]]. Ten-some years later, [[spoiler:and ''[[RebuildOfEvangelion ''[[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Rebulid]]'''s SEELE turn out to be AI themselves]].
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