History YMMV / Xenogears

19th Oct '17 4:12:29 PM Nicoaln
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** [[{{Mondegreen}} Interpretations of what the random english voice clip is saying during boss music.]] Sometimes it's "Total sentence imposed ten years" (which is what the clip is ''actually'' saying) but sometimes they come off as "Total sets in the gas chamber" or "Sex in front of trash can"
15th Oct '17 2:00:55 PM ACW
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** [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]

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** [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster [[ChessmasterSidekick Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] revealed to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], assistant, Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: goal: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] history by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]
15th Oct '17 8:59:51 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster CompleteMonster:
**[[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster
Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]]]
**[[SinisterMinister Bishop Isaac Stone]] (originally Stein) is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs]]. An agent for Solaris, he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for their secret weapon, and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbomination Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priests who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to massacre them, leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. This, along with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]], shows how a truly vile piece of work he really is.
26th Sep '17 1:14:49 PM RAlexa21th
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Many people will often call BS on how Fei and Elly so easily forgive him in the end.
25th Sep '17 3:02:08 PM RAlexa21th
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** Hammer is a more controversial case. Is he endearing or annoying? Are his [[TotallyRadical MAD SKILLZ]] {{Narm}} or NarmCharm? Is he a ByronicHero or a CompleteMonster? Is he a cold-blooded murderer or was he not responsible for his actions? Hammer is intentionally written as sympathetic character who is [[CharacterShilling loved and morally exonerated]] in the eyes of Elly and Rico. ''Audience'' reaction to Hammer, however, varies wildly; the audience may love him throughout, or start hating him after his (legitimately shocking) betrayal (and then, may or may not forgive him after his demise), or they may have [[TheScrappy hated him from the get go]].
*** Hammer has an EthnicScrappy vibe to him too. He's subservient, less intelligent, cowardly, and all around less useful than the normal humans and Rico, who is only half demi-human and the son of normal human nobility. The worst part is when he starts calling cast members "Master".
** Krelian himself has to be the most hotly debated character even to this day. The man was personally responsible for countless numbers of people suffering and dying and was directly responsible to most, if not all the events of the game. Many people will often call BS on how Fei and Elly so easily forgive him in the end.

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** Hammer is a more controversial case. Is he endearing or annoying? Are his [[TotallyRadical MAD SKILLZ]] {{Narm}} or NarmCharm? Is he a ByronicHero or a CompleteMonster? Is he a cold-blooded murderer or was he not responsible for his actions? Hammer is intentionally written as sympathetic character who is [[CharacterShilling loved and morally exonerated]] in the eyes of Elly and Rico. ''Audience'' reaction to Hammer, however, varies wildly; the audience may love him throughout, or start hating him after his (legitimately shocking) betrayal (and then, may or may not forgive him after his demise), or they may have [[TheScrappy hated him from the get go]].
*** Hammer has an EthnicScrappy vibe to him too. He's subservient, less intelligent, cowardly, and all around less useful than the normal humans and Rico, who is only half demi-human and the son of normal human nobility. The worst part is when he starts calling cast members "Master".
** Krelian himself has to be the most hotly debated character even to this day. The man was personally responsible for countless numbers of people suffering and dying and was directly responsible to most, if not all the events of the game.
Many people will often call BS on how Fei and Elly so easily forgive him in the end.
14th Sep '17 1:01:17 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster:
** [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]

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* CompleteMonster:
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CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]
13th Sep '17 6:27:19 AM TheImmortalAngelNewton
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** [[SinisterMinister Bishop Stone/Stein]] is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs]]. An agent for Solaris he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for there SecretWeapon and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbomination Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priest who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to [[KillEmAll massacre them]] leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. Afterwards he tries to take them down when the hero chased after him to the ancient ruins the Ethos found with a HumongousMecha only to receive his [[KarmicDeath demise by the person he deceived for over the years]]. This along with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]] shows how a truly vile piece of work he really is.
27th Aug '17 6:44:41 AM TheImmortalAngelNewton
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** [[SinisterMinister Bishop Stone/Stein]] is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs]]. An agent for Solaris he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for there SecretWeapon and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbominations Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priest who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to [[KillEmAll massacre them]] leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. Afterwards he tries to take them down when the hero chased after him to the ancient ruins the Ethos found with a HumongousMecha only to receive his [[KarmicDeath demise by the person he deceived for over the years]]. This a long with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]]. A truly vile piece of work that had no redeeming qualities.

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** [[SinisterMinister Bishop Stone/Stein]] is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs]]. An agent for Solaris he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for there SecretWeapon and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbominations [[HumanoidAbomination Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priest who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to [[KillEmAll massacre them]] leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. Afterwards he tries to take them down when the hero chased after him to the ancient ruins the Ethos found with a HumongousMecha only to receive his [[KarmicDeath demise by the person he deceived for over the years]]. This a long along with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]]. A him]] shows how a truly vile piece of work that had no redeeming qualities.he really is.
26th Aug '17 6:47:57 PM TheImmortalAngelNewton
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** [[SinisterMinister Bishop Stone/Stein]] is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs. An agent for Solaris he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for there SecretWeapon and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbominations Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priest who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to [[KillEmAll massacre them]] leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. Afterwards he tries to take them down when the hero chased after him to the ancient ruins the Ethos found with a HumongousMecha only to receive his [[KarmicDeath demise by the person he deceived for over the years]]. This a long with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]]. A truly vile piece of work that had no redeeming qualities.

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** [[SinisterMinister Bishop Stone/Stein]] is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs.beliefs]]. An agent for Solaris he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for there SecretWeapon and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbominations Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priest who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to [[KillEmAll massacre them]] leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. Afterwards he tries to take them down when the hero chased after him to the ancient ruins the Ethos found with a HumongousMecha only to receive his [[KarmicDeath demise by the person he deceived for over the years]]. This a long with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]]. A truly vile piece of work that had no redeeming qualities.
26th Aug '17 6:45:56 PM TheImmortalAngelNewton
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]

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* CompleteMonster: CompleteMonster:
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[[spoiler:[[TheChessmaster Miang Hawwa]] is [[TheManBehindTheMan eventually revealed]] to be [[TheHeavy the true driving force of the game's conflict]]. [[ChessmasterSidekick Initially Ramsus's wallflower assistant]], Miang turns out to be an ancient being with [[TheDragon one goal]]: to prepare [[HumanResources humanity for harvest]] by [[BigBad Deus]]. The "Eve" of the world, its first woman, Miang has helped to [[HistoricalRapSheet manipulate human history]] by running an AncientConspiracy, causing countless wars and conflicts with countless deaths. Miang demonstrates nothing less than cruel satisfaction at her manipulations, rubbing it in her lover Ramsus's face how he was a failed prototype of Ramsus's rival Fei to break his already fragile mind. Miang awakens Deus and causes the genocide of almost all humanity, in addition to having made it her personal mission to destroy the happiness of lover Fei and Elly's past incarnations every time they reincarnate. Only Miang demonstrates such sadistic cruelty in her job in ''Xenogears''.]]]]
** [[SinisterMinister Bishop Stone/Stein]] is one of the darkest and cruelest villains in a game full of [[PunchClockVillain soldiers fighting for honor and their beliefs. An agent for Solaris he continues the conspiracy of the [[ScamReligion Ethos]] by taking in orphans and lost people, only to send them to Solaris to be experimented for there SecretWeapon and killing any survivors who became [[HumanoidAbominations Wels or Reapers]] by sending out priest who he tricked into believing him. After the Ethos tries to break away from Solaris using weapons they found inside an ancient ruin, he begins to [[KillEmAll massacre them]] leaving very few survivors. And after being caught up by Billy, a young man who was devoted to Ethos, he gives him a BreakingSpeech by telling him the monsters he killed were actually people that Solaris mutated. Afterwards he tries to take them down when the hero chased after him to the ancient ruins the Ethos found with a HumongousMecha only to receive his [[KarmicDeath demise by the person he deceived for over the years]]. This a long with his past where he [[MurderTheHypotenuse killed Raquel, the mother of Billy, all because she chose Jesiah over him]]. A truly vile piece of work that had no redeeming qualities.
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